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LaRussell's Lil Wayne Comments, J. Cole & NBA/All Star Talk #141 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: What to do.
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Speaker 2: We're back again. The Grounded showed the ball.
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Speaker 1: You heard me, yo, episode number.
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Speaker 2: Episode I think one forty one. I believe I might
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Speaker 2: be incorrect. It might be one forty two. I know
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Speaker 2: we passed the one forty though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, we don't even keep it count because we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get to nine hundred and foul.
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Speaker 2: You feel me, You feel me? Hey, man, We about
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Speaker 2: to get it jumping with these events. Man, we've been
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Speaker 2: talking about it for a little bit. We about to
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Speaker 2: put out some hard dates soon. You heard me.
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Speaker 1: They were actually preparing for them now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, facts, We was getting the details right and
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Speaker 2: now we ready to go. So definitely keep a lookout
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Speaker 2: for that. But man, we're gonna jump right into it
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Speaker 2: because something that I had sent you throughout the week
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Speaker 2: that just jumped at me when I was scrolling through
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Speaker 2: TikTok was Larrussell. Man. L Russell just recently been doing
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Speaker 2: his rounds because he just signed that deal with Rock Nation.
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Speaker 2: He has that project that he's trying to sell I
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Speaker 2: think a hundred thousand units in pre orders before he
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Speaker 2: even drops it. So basically he's just trying to show
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Speaker 2: the power of like being an independent artist and kind
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Speaker 2: of putting the world on notice on what kind of
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Speaker 2: like fan base he has and how he's grinded and everything.
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Speaker 2: So the story with him is pretty cool. But the
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Speaker 2: one detail that he said that really really caught me
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Speaker 2: was the Lil Wayne peace Man.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: He had a video where he's basically talking about Lil
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Speaker 2: Wayne never really did anything musically to him that was
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Speaker 2: like an actual good thing for like, let's say, the
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Speaker 2: community or the people that he's serving, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean, Like it's the fan base. He was basically
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Speaker 2: saying that a lot of the music was, you know,
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Speaker 2: glorifying the wrong thing. There was not a lot of
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Speaker 2: music outside of tie my Hands, which is that song
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Speaker 2: that he did about Hurricane Katrina.
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Speaker 1: That's really deep for the community.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy because like it was kind
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Speaker 2: of introspective the way he talked about it, because he
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Speaker 2: was talking about it really from the point of view
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Speaker 2: of he was a huge fan and he was super
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Speaker 2: locked in with Lil Wayne, And I not saying that
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Speaker 2: he's not a fan anymore, but he was just saying
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Speaker 2: how he even realized, like dang, this dude really ain't
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Speaker 2: saying nothing, you know, what I mean, like, even as
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Speaker 2: being a fan.
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Speaker 1: So I definitely agree to him to some extent, but
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Speaker 1: I also want to take into account how long Wayne's
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Speaker 1: been doing this, you know what I'm saying, And how
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Speaker 1: was he thirteen fourteen, maybe the preteen Yeah, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of their introduction with cash Money was New Orleans,
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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Does the longevity of what he's
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Speaker 1: done play a factor of why maybe he thinks he's
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Speaker 1: done enough for that anymore.
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Speaker 2: I think kind of the way I interpret what Loa
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Speaker 2: Russell was saying is like Lil Wayne, the the substance
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Speaker 2: is not really there with the music sat there. He's
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Speaker 2: a great rapper. And then when I thought about it,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, and it's funny, man, because it made me
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Speaker 2: think about something Jarry's always said. Jarry always says like
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Speaker 2: he don't hold Lil Wayne on that same pedestal that
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Speaker 2: a lot of people have him on, and it's kind
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Speaker 2: of the same reason, you know what I mean. But me,
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Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm still a big Lil Wayne
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Speaker 2: fan growing up. Like, it's funny even saying it from
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Speaker 2: the point of view of like, when I like Lil Wayne,
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Speaker 2: nobody liked low Wayne, because it's like you're talking about
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Speaker 2: it was when he was really coming up, you know,
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Speaker 2: younger Low Wayne, cash Money era Low Wayne. It still
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Speaker 2: had that real Southern sound, so everybody wasn't really tapped
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Speaker 2: into it.
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Speaker 1: Everything was New Orleans style.
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Speaker 2: Facts and like, shout out to my boy Jeremy Man.
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Speaker 2: He was one of my homies in one where me
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Speaker 2: and him was like the only ones that really rock
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Speaker 2: with Low Wayne before Quincy moved in the neighborhood because
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Speaker 2: he was from New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: So he rocked with Quincy Be or me.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, when I thought about it, though, I'm like, bro,
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Speaker 2: Wayne really don't be saying nothing. He just manipulates the
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Speaker 2: words in such a way that you appreciate him as
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Speaker 2: an artist and as a rapper, like, bro, the way
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Speaker 2: that he's putting together these lines and the punch lines
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Speaker 2: and stuff. But then it made me think of this, Bro,
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Speaker 2: is he really that good when all he's really doing
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Speaker 2: is just writing from any perspective because all his music
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Speaker 2: is just random, like a lot of it doesn't even
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Speaker 2: have any value to us. So he's really rapping about,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of like the dumbest thing. So it's
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Speaker 2: like when you're really opening your palette to like being
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Speaker 2: able to say anything. Really, is it really like you're
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Speaker 2: that much better than everybody? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Like just being Devil's advocate.
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Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough. It's tough being a Wayne fan. Like,
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Speaker 1: outside of all the projects, which ones meant the most
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Speaker 1: out of his project in your opinion, what was the
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Speaker 1: most important series of his project?
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Speaker 2: So I will answer that for sure, but I want
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Speaker 2: to preface it by saying this, I feel like all
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Speaker 2: this also is like unfairly happening to Lil Wayne. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to He didn't even get like,
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Speaker 2: he didn't get the Super Bowl thing. So ever since then,
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Speaker 2: the whole thing about Lil Wayne has been like he
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Speaker 2: don't get no respect. So like people are just like
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Speaker 2: kind of like attaching to that angle and like that's
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Speaker 2: the story of him right now now having said that,
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Speaker 2: for me, it's the Carter one.
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Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. What series the Carters?
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Speaker 2: The Carter For sure, the Carter Carter, Carter one and
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Speaker 2: three y are probably my favorite. But one is the.
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Speaker 1: Carters should be his elite out of everything, the Carters,
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Speaker 1: Like when is the Carter dropping that is something that's anticipated.
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Speaker 2: He wrapped his ass off on all the Carters.
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Speaker 1: With this Carter six. That was terrible to me, Yo.
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Speaker 2: The Carter six was a tough listen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like it was something that he listened
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Speaker 1: to what's out there. He took all the features that
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Speaker 1: he was on that he did well with, and he
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Speaker 1: just dropped a song that sounded like it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those things where you really
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Speaker 2: artists and this is kind of like a thing I
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Speaker 2: have with Fabulous too, man, Like, there's certain artists that
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Speaker 2: when you put them in a space where you're like, yo,
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Speaker 2: just create something timeless, they really can't give.
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Speaker 1: It to you.
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Speaker 2: Which that's not even a knock because bro, like, only
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Speaker 2: a few artists in the history of music period have
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Speaker 2: that sound, you know what I'm saying. So it's not
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Speaker 2: even it sounds harsh, but it's like with music, bro,
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things. And I heard this in
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Speaker 2: Comedians and Cars getting coffee, like they compared it to
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Speaker 2: like cigars. Like comedians cigars and music is one of
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Speaker 2: those things that like, when you want to enjoy it,
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Speaker 2: you want to enjoy it in the highest form. You
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Speaker 2: don't want an Okay cigar, You want the Cuban cigar,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: The best cup of coffee.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, You want the best cup of coffee. You want
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Speaker 2: to go watch you know, you want to spend two
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Speaker 2: hundred to see Kevin Hart. You don't want to see
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Speaker 2: the local comedian, you know what I mean. So it's
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Speaker 2: like I get that part of music, but I also
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Speaker 2: understand how hard that is, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: And for me, Lil Wayne is just one of those
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Speaker 2: where he's just a super dope rapper and as far
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Speaker 2: as just like the rapping part of it, he mastered
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Speaker 2: it because he raps in a way where like him
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Speaker 2: doing these punchlines and playing with the flow the way
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Speaker 2: he does it comes off dope. Like when Lil Wayne
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Speaker 2: does it as dope, when a lot of other rappers
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Speaker 2: do it, you're like, dang, they're trying to do too much,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So he found that balance
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Speaker 2: of like I'm still rapping, but people vibe with it,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: And that's like I feel about Carter six, Like the
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Speaker 1: way he's still maneuvers around his lyrics and he's rapping.
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Speaker 1: It's something pretty much. Wayne is one of the only
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Speaker 1: few artists that can do it, and he's still good
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Speaker 1: at it. But what is what is he even saying?
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Speaker 1: Like he's not even he's doing it well, but he's
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Speaker 1: just regurgitating a bunch of stuff that he's probably aready
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Speaker 1: rapped about that it's.
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Speaker 2: Just it's just manipulating vocabulary.
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Speaker 1: Which, like I said, he's still good at he's still
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Speaker 1: one of the best at it. But I would put
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Speaker 1: eminem in the same thing. Why people like what is
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Speaker 1: he doesn't even rap about much anymore? But he's still
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Speaker 1: good lyricists that can flip words and rhymes and the
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Speaker 1: cadence and the vowel sounds and all of that. He's
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Speaker 1: still really good at rapping as a lyricist. But what
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Speaker 1: he's not even that you're not even saying nothing.
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Speaker 2: And it's like listening to rap for like the phase
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Speaker 2: value of the rap is something you grow out of.
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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like
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Speaker 2: most people, that's something that when you're a teenager in
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Speaker 2: your early twenties, like when you got the real like
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Speaker 2: you got the time for it. That's when you're really
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Speaker 2: listening and stuff, and like judging the lyrical ability and
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Speaker 2: what they're saying. And it's kind of like the same
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Speaker 2: thing with like the J Cole album, Like he dropped
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Speaker 2: that album, he dropped the freestyles before and the freestyles
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Speaker 2: I wasn't impressed because it's the same kind of thing
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Speaker 2: we talked about with Wayne, Like I know you're good
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Speaker 2: at playing with the words, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: Like that's not You're not gonna do that, and I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh my gosh, like he's you know,
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Speaker 2: he got new punchlines. Like I'm past that, bro, Like
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to hear like like I was really looking
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Speaker 2: forward to the album, you know what I mean. But
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Speaker 2: even the album is something that I haven't really had
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Speaker 2: a chance to really dive into it.
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard it an hour.
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Speaker 2: And forty one minutes, bro, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And it started, like you said, it started with that
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Speaker 1: country John and I was like.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, broh that when that little country song started
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Speaker 2: the intro that was like I let it run for
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Speaker 2: like thirty seconds. I skimmed through it and make sure
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Speaker 2: I wasn't missing like a long intro or something. And
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Speaker 2: when I realized it was just that I played the
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Speaker 2: second song. I don't even really remember it and I
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Speaker 2: haven't gotten back to it since Bro exactly. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not even like a person that doesn't like J Cole.
10:05
Speaker 2: I'm like either way on him, Like early J cole
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Speaker 2: where people was like yo, he was the man that
10:12
Speaker 2: wasn't my era, Like I was like still listening to
10:15
Speaker 2: other stuff, and I wasn't really I wasn't one of those.
10:18
Speaker 2: I was like two into like chance to rapper J Cole, Bob,
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Speaker 2: like that era, like the new school that came in,
10:26
Speaker 2: but that specific lineup, yeah, exactly, that specific lineup. It
10:30
Speaker 2: was like this is cool. But you know, I like
10:33
Speaker 2: what J cole like matured into like twenty fourteen for
10:36
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's my favorite, know what I mean? Like
10:39
Speaker 2: that that, you know, so a good amount of Born Center.
10:42
Speaker 2: Yet kod Kod was a dope one. There was like
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Speaker 2: that stretch where I was like, yo, yeah, all this
10:49
Speaker 2: J Cole is dope, you know. I mean, yeah, Born
10:50
Speaker 2: Center's still but I would say I'm like fifty fifty
10:53
Speaker 2: on his library, you know what i mean. So I'm
10:57
Speaker 2: not saying that the New Joint is bad. It's just
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Speaker 2: i haven't had the time to like really dive into
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Speaker 2: it in a way where I'm like, all right, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean I look at it like this too. Man
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Speaker 2: Like even Michael Jackson, you know Thriller, he gave you
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Speaker 2: nine songs, bro, Like, I remember if it was eight
11:12
Speaker 2: or nine, but it was like, not that many songs, dog, Like,
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Speaker 2: you don't need to a certain point. Man Like Chris
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Speaker 2: Brown did this a few years.
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Speaker 1: Ago to you know what I'm saying, his name was,
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Speaker 1: I was getting ready to show. But you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was getting ready to show.
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Speaker 2: It's exactly that, bro. Like I'm a huge Chris Brown fan.
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Speaker 2: But when you tell me you're dropping forty songs, I'm like, dang,
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Speaker 2: Like I don't even know what what took? You know,
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Speaker 2: what am I going to listen to? How do I
11:36
Speaker 2: listen to these joints without like tiring my ear out?
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Speaker 2: Like how do you pick which? You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: It's like it's too much, bro.
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Speaker 1: And I think timing is everything. We are in, you know,
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Speaker 1: a climate where timing is everything as far as what
11:54
Speaker 1: the state of the world is in or the state
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Speaker 1: of even our country and our you know, are day
12:00
Speaker 1: to day where we live in what's important, And I
12:02
Speaker 1: think like when you got stuff like ice and all
12:09
Speaker 1: this other stuff going, I feel like rappers take advantage
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Speaker 1: to drop some deep thoughtful ship. Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, man, because like even my son has
12:18
Speaker 2: been asking me stuff about like political things and the
12:21
Speaker 2: ice thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch so we don't give a blacklisted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even he's mentioned like little things that people have
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Speaker 2: told him at school, you know what I'm saying. And
12:29
Speaker 2: it's crazy, man, even like everything that went down with
12:33
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, you know, and how like polarizing that
12:36
Speaker 2: thing was even leading into like the All Star weekend.
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Speaker 2: You know, Like the NBA has looked at as like
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Speaker 2: a left leaning league, So there's a certain energy from
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Speaker 2: a crowd because they're looking they're not they're not taking
12:53
Speaker 2: it as basketball, They're taking it as like, oh, these
12:56
Speaker 2: are people with a viewpoint. So I'm already pissed, you
12:59
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, like the NBA has been
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Speaker 2: like in this weird space, especially since like the Bubble year,
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Speaker 2: and they really really really got into a lot of
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Speaker 2: like political activism and stuff. And I'm not saying anything
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Speaker 2: about it specifically either way, like you know, forward against
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Speaker 2: it whatever. I'm just saying, that happened, and they pretty
13:19
Speaker 2: much put a target on their back from like another crowd,
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Speaker 2: the people that are not with the kind of stuff
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Speaker 2: the NBA is with, and it's been like this little
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Speaker 2: weird kind of mainstream energy for the NBA.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that on networks, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that control the media, and that's why
13:35
Speaker 1: this is the last year that the Super Bowls on NBC.
13:38
Speaker 1: Yep is shifting the ESPN for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Even like the NFL, like the number has been going up,
13:44
Speaker 2: the NBA number has been declining, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that they're you know, trying
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Speaker 2: to kind of move towards is like bringing the fun
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Speaker 2: back of All Star Weekend, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Like they're trying to kind of figure out what's going
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Speaker 2: on with the tanking situation, what's going on with uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, just having more competitive regular season. You know,
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Speaker 2: like as an NBA fan, you get to a point
14:11
Speaker 2: you've watched so much NBA that you already know, like,
14:14
Speaker 2: I'm not going to dedicate my time watching these games
14:16
Speaker 2: when I see that they're not even trying, Like you're
14:20
Speaker 2: sitting guys that are that are healthy, you know, the
14:23
Speaker 2: guys that are playing, they're not giving it. They're all
14:25
Speaker 2: because it's like, yo, you know, we don't necessarily need
14:28
Speaker 2: to win this game. You know they're not. It is
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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that the players are at fault
14:36
Speaker 2: because I feel like, man, eighty two games, that's a
14:38
Speaker 2: lot of games, Like that's an insane amount of traveling,
14:42
Speaker 2: and with the pace that the NBA is now, like
14:45
Speaker 2: that's one thing from back back in the day till now,
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Speaker 2: like they're not they weren't covering as much ground as
14:51
Speaker 2: they are now. It's not even like an opinion, it's
14:53
Speaker 2: a fact. Like they're running a lot more in the
14:55
Speaker 2: NBA game now than they were before. So obviously they're
14:58
Speaker 2: going to get hurt more. So you either got to
15:00
Speaker 2: sold the pace of the game back down or you
15:03
Speaker 2: got to reduce the amount of regular season games. But
15:05
Speaker 2: the thing with the regular season games is they don't
15:08
Speaker 2: want to lose that revenue because if you're going from
15:11
Speaker 2: let's say eighty two games to what I think will
15:13
Speaker 2: be perfect is like maybe like forty eight games. That's
15:17
Speaker 2: a stretch because I don't think that will go down
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Speaker 2: that much, you know what I mean. But like if
15:20
Speaker 2: they let's say they go down to like sixty cut
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Speaker 2: out twenty two.
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Speaker 1: Games, they'll make a big difference twenty.
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Speaker 2: Two games thirty teams. You know how much money they're
15:29
Speaker 2: missing out on with that, bro, But my argument is
15:33
Speaker 2: how much money will they be gaining By making the
15:36
Speaker 2: game more must see and having more out You're.
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Speaker 1: Gonna players back who want to And honestly, that's what
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Speaker 1: I feel like the All Star weekend as has turned
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Speaker 1: into like award shows in the music industry. Like I
15:50
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of artists like this thing for us, Yeah,
15:53
Speaker 1: they don't care, Like this is for y'all, this thing
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Speaker 1: for us. We do not care about this stuff. And
15:59
Speaker 1: there's because of the reason, because of the way you know,
16:02
Speaker 1: the league is, and like they're like, well, if we could,
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Speaker 1: if we could have a week and a half off,
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Speaker 1: I'm taking it enough that you're doing to make me
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Speaker 1: want to do this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And even bringing the parallel to the like the
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Speaker 2: Grammy thing, it's like the Grammys, they don't pay you
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Speaker 2: to go out there, they don't pay you to perform.
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Speaker 2: It's like you're doing all that on your own dime,
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Speaker 2: and it's like if you're you know, if you gotta
16:21
Speaker 2: like that, you gotta like that. But even some people
16:23
Speaker 2: that got it like that, they still don't want to
16:25
Speaker 2: go through all the trouble of doing all this stuff
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Speaker 2: for something that you're basically doing.
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Speaker 1: And the people that are voting are voting for people
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Speaker 1: who like, nobody agrees.
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Speaker 2: That you don't want to spend one hundred g's to
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Speaker 2: go out to Grammy weekend to get Kendrick Lamar when
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Speaker 2: when Maclamore beat him for Album of the Year, like,
16:41
Speaker 2: imagine you spent fifty g's on that weekend for Maclamore
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Speaker 2: to beat you an album of the year like insane, bro.
16:48
Speaker 2: But it's like one of those things will all start
16:50
Speaker 2: weekend where like the players don't have the incentive and
16:54
Speaker 2: they're all like, I don't want to get hurt. I
16:55
Speaker 2: don't want to look stupid, so they're not even trying.
16:58
Speaker 2: But it's All Star weekend, the All Star Game. I
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Speaker 2: won't say all start Saturday night. Oh no, no, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm tripping. Yeah, your all start All Star Weekend. Trash yeah,
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Speaker 2: rash bro. The first of all, Like I'm confused, is
17:15
Speaker 2: why Damian Lillard is even in the three point contest,
17:18
Speaker 2: like he hasn't even played a game this year. Like
17:20
Speaker 2: it just kind of like catches you off guard. Like,
17:23
Speaker 2: first of all, isn't this like a reward to like
17:25
Speaker 2: the players that have been shooting lights out during the season,
17:28
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like noting against Damian Lillard,
17:30
Speaker 2: a great player, but it's like, bro, like the people
17:33
Speaker 2: that have been grinding this season on the core, putting
17:35
Speaker 2: up threes, those are the dudes that should you know
17:38
Speaker 2: deep part of that, you know what I'm saying.
17:39
Speaker 1: And there are playing the shooters like that out there,
17:41
Speaker 1: and then that was kind of crazy. The dunk contest
17:45
Speaker 1: was cush.
17:45
Speaker 2: Was insanely bad. Bro, Yo, I could have went and
17:50
Speaker 2: did better layups. That's how bad it is.
17:52
Speaker 1: Like when Darrel Lomstrong did that one lay up for
17:55
Speaker 1: the dunk contest. Oh my god, Yeah no, that's what
17:59
Speaker 1: I mean. Like you can't ain't get the people out
18:01
Speaker 1: here like Anthony Edwards, John Moran, these people is in there,
18:07
Speaker 1: nah yeah, but these people who are out there, I
18:10
Speaker 1: think he is injured. Actually, the people who are out
18:12
Speaker 1: there duncan like crazy like and you can't province them
18:16
Speaker 1: to come out here.
18:16
Speaker 2: The dunk contest has been just Wemby.
18:19
Speaker 1: Bro. Imagine Wemby in a dread.
18:20
Speaker 2: Up disrespectful the last like ten years.
18:22
Speaker 1: That's why they had to get what's his name, the white.
18:25
Speaker 2: Boy Macmon from the G League, and then he put
18:28
Speaker 2: out his own video of like the dunks that would
18:30
Speaker 2: have that would have won. Bro. Either get rid of
18:34
Speaker 2: the dunk contest period and replace it with something else,
18:37
Speaker 2: or like make good players be part of it, like
18:40
Speaker 2: because or like make them have to like jump from
18:44
Speaker 2: a certain line or you know what I mean, like
18:46
Speaker 2: like change the way that the thing is played.
18:48
Speaker 1: But it's like, but I also think like we need
18:50
Speaker 1: like like like either you know, because Aunt said that
18:55
Speaker 1: he gave the All Star week and everything because of Wemby,
18:57
Speaker 1: Like he followed Wemby and he's like, oh yeah, just
19:00
Speaker 1: make this weekend something.
19:01
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that.
19:02
Speaker 1: If one of them choose to participate, and then all
19:05
Speaker 1: the rest of the players like, okay, let's go turn
19:08
Speaker 1: this into someth where they used to be.
19:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wemby said, the tone with the competitiveness where you
19:14
Speaker 2: can tell like Jokic coming off an injury, Luca coming
19:18
Speaker 2: off injury. They was like, nah, like we're good, you
19:21
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I always think about it, and
19:24
Speaker 2: I found out recently that they don't do this anymore,
19:26
Speaker 2: But I always thought about it, Like the MLB make
19:29
Speaker 2: it East versus West, and whoever wins gets home court advantage.
19:33
Speaker 2: That's the only Like the I didn't care anything about baseball,
19:38
Speaker 2: but if I caught the All Star Game while it
19:40
Speaker 2: was on the way, they shot it and then also
19:43
Speaker 2: they letting you know, you know there's stakes to this game. Bro,
19:46
Speaker 2: I don't care about baseball, but the fact that there
19:49
Speaker 2: was real stakes to the All Star Game and these
19:51
Speaker 2: dudes was legit playing that game like it was a
19:54
Speaker 2: real game. When it came to the last innings, Bro,
19:57
Speaker 2: that was different.
19:58
Speaker 1: Bro.
19:58
Speaker 2: And with the NBA they All Star weekend. Bro, It's like,
20:01
Speaker 2: this is a privilege and you should want to be
20:03
Speaker 2: like showing yourself against the best players in the world.
20:06
Speaker 2: I understand it's not the end goal, but there's got
20:09
Speaker 2: to be a middle ground where players are like, like,
20:12
Speaker 2: I feel like they kind of found it this year
20:14
Speaker 2: with like breaking the games in the quarters, you know
20:16
Speaker 2: what I mean.
20:16
Speaker 1: Like, I will say, though, I think this USA versus
20:20
Speaker 1: the world theme structure that they had this time built
20:25
Speaker 1: off USA winning the Olympics. Oh yeah, how close it
20:29
Speaker 1: came to the other team. So I think they all
20:31
Speaker 1: wanted to say that world element was like like we
20:34
Speaker 1: still I don't know how long that's gonna last though,
20:36
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't know if that's
20:37
Speaker 1: going to be as relevant. I don't know. I don't
20:39
Speaker 1: know if the players are going to care. Like, all right,
20:41
Speaker 1: y'all won the Olympics, y'all beat us last year. I
20:44
Speaker 1: don't care to do this again.
20:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can even see this year, Yogis
20:47
Speaker 2: didn't care, Lucra didn't care. So it's definitely gonna be
20:52
Speaker 2: interesting to see how it goes. But dog Kawhy, bro,
20:57
Speaker 2: he went on the insane heater, bro Yo. That was
21:03
Speaker 2: an insane watch live even I even caught it afterwards
21:07
Speaker 2: like in like a recap video, and it's still was
21:09
Speaker 2: insane watching the recap, bro.
21:11
Speaker 1: But that is Kawhi who he is. But it's like
21:14
Speaker 1: you don't get the Kawhi year round. And that's why
21:16
Speaker 1: it wasn't shocking. It was surprising that we got to
21:20
Speaker 1: see it in the All Star Game.
21:22
Speaker 2: It kind of like makes you mad of like what
21:25
Speaker 2: could be if he wasn't injured as much as he is.
21:27
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
21:28
Speaker 1: Imagine you play like that year round, bro.
21:29
Speaker 2: Bro. And that's why, like people think I'm crazy, Bro,
21:32
Speaker 2: but always say, like the healthy Kawhi is the best
21:34
Speaker 2: player in the league because you see the way he
21:36
Speaker 2: impacts a game and the way he imposes his will. Bro,
21:41
Speaker 2: that is like prime Lebron MJ, prime Dwayne Wade.
21:47
Speaker 1: Like there's nobody in his class right now who could
21:50
Speaker 1: take over a game the way he does class literally,
21:53
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about like draft class.
21:55
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'll even say like somebody like a Yokis Bro,
21:59
Speaker 2: Like he's his size kind of like impedes him from
22:04
Speaker 2: really like stretching the floor. Like let's say game on
22:07
Speaker 2: the line, yo, kids doesn't have as deep a bag
22:10
Speaker 2: as Kawhi has, you know what I'm saying. Like Kawhi
22:13
Speaker 2: is like the end of the game, Bro. He can
22:15
Speaker 2: get you any kind of shot.
22:16
Speaker 1: Kids can't pull it from the corner, fall out of
22:18
Speaker 1: bounce and let.
22:18
Speaker 2: It exactly like Bro, it is. It's one of those
22:24
Speaker 2: things too, Bro, where it's like it's a pleasure to
22:26
Speaker 2: watch man.
22:27
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Bro, I was actually like wow, and
22:30
Speaker 1: like I was never a hater. I was never a
22:33
Speaker 1: huge fan, but it reminded me how much I enjoyed
22:37
Speaker 1: watching games that he was in. It reminded me like, damn, yeah, it.
22:41
Speaker 2: Really just let us know how much we're like we
22:44
Speaker 2: were kind of robbed of like more of that just
22:48
Speaker 2: through the injuries. Yeah.
22:49
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, I would love to see this
22:52
Speaker 1: a full season.
22:53
Speaker 2: Nah for real, man, like a constant barrage. That would
22:56
Speaker 2: have been insane. Man. It's even like way too, Like
23:00
Speaker 2: Wade was insane when he was in his prime, but
23:02
Speaker 2: a lot of that was cut short with injuries. Because
23:04
Speaker 2: it's like to a certain point, Bro, when you're given
23:07
Speaker 2: so much, like your body's your body's gonna betray you
23:10
Speaker 2: at some point, you know.
23:11
Speaker 1: Not for Lebron though, but hey he still hooped.
23:15
Speaker 2: He still did. But could you say that Lebron gave
23:19
Speaker 2: his body like in a series, because that was the
23:23
Speaker 2: that was the knock on him in the beginning, Bro,
23:25
Speaker 2: that he wasn't given his all.
23:28
Speaker 1: Like twenty sixteen Cleveland and Warriors, that's what Oh.
23:31
Speaker 2: No, no, for sure for sure, but by then for sure.
23:34
Speaker 2: But that was the knock early in his career.
23:36
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, so you said if he ever did it, Yes,
23:39
Speaker 1: he's done it, but early in his career, I don't know. No,
23:42
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. The early Cleveland years, I
23:45
Speaker 1: don't think it was worth it to him that he
23:49
Speaker 1: when they lost to the MAVs and the Spurs. I
23:55
Speaker 1: don't think he did. I don't think he did until
23:57
Speaker 1: he went back to Cleveland. I think that's when he
23:59
Speaker 1: started to like just sacrificing every little last drop he had.
24:03
Speaker 2: Well, no, I would say, yeah, yeah, I remember on
24:07
Speaker 2: that Heat team he would I mean he was doing
24:10
Speaker 2: a little towards the end in Cleveland, but like on
24:12
Speaker 2: that Heat team, he was jumble with centers, he was
24:14
Speaker 2: starting centers, he was like.
24:16
Speaker 1: That's when they had a meme where he was looking
24:17
Speaker 1: up when it was down and he was in that
24:19
Speaker 1: yeah takeover. So I would say that towards the end
24:22
Speaker 1: of his heat career, that's when he finally turned it
24:26
Speaker 1: up to prime Lebron. I think that was prime Lebron. Yeah.
24:30
Speaker 2: And Bro, that's the funny thing when we talk about
24:33
Speaker 2: Lebron too, and we'll kind of just wrap up with this,
24:35
Speaker 2: is like people always they want to hate on him
24:39
Speaker 2: so bad, Bro, Like we don't. I mean, you think
24:41
Speaker 2: he's the best player ever. I don't think he's the
24:43
Speaker 2: best player ever. But we don't ever really even push
24:47
Speaker 2: that narrative. We just talk about him from the point
24:49
Speaker 2: of view of like what he's doing and like just
24:51
Speaker 2: historically seeing it. And people don't even like giving him props.
24:55
Speaker 1: Bro.
24:55
Speaker 2: It's like, regardless how you feel about him personally, for
24:58
Speaker 2: you to be like not giving him his props as
25:01
Speaker 2: like an NBA player and what he's done in his
25:04
Speaker 2: career is insane.
25:05
Speaker 1: Bro, And you know, you know it's crazy. Like I've
25:07
Speaker 1: always like Kobe Kobe. I wasn't like his biggest fan ever,
25:14
Speaker 1: but once he left the league and then you just
25:17
Speaker 1: saw a montage with the monstage of how great he was,
25:20
Speaker 1: and I.
25:20
Speaker 2: Was like, damn, Yeah. My thing with Kobe was just
25:24
Speaker 2: he was an OP all the time because I'm a
25:25
Speaker 2: Spurs fan, so he was just an OP.
25:28
Speaker 1: But you're not. You don't know what you missed out
25:31
Speaker 1: on until it's gone. And I feel like it's gonna
25:33
Speaker 1: be big time for everyone at Lebron when Lebron retires.
25:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying because like so
25:38
Speaker 2: many people hate him for no reason, like they hate
25:41
Speaker 2: him like because of like off the court he still
25:43
Speaker 2: to watch like yeah, and it's like, bro, why you
25:46
Speaker 2: can't just enjoy that he's hooping, like regardless of how
25:49
Speaker 2: you feel, he's hooping, Like it's crazy, man, Lebron is
25:53
Speaker 2: super polarizing, bro. And it kind of goes back to
25:55
Speaker 2: what we said earlier about like the political thing kind
26:00
Speaker 2: of going into basketball. Lebron is very clear of like
26:04
Speaker 2: which side of the isle he's on that is automatically
26:08
Speaker 2: going to cut half your audience, you know what I mean.
26:10
Speaker 2: It goes back to that thing that Jordan's said, you know,
26:13
Speaker 2: like which he said he never said, but you know
26:15
Speaker 2: Republicans by sneakers too, you know they Jordan said, he
26:19
Speaker 2: never said that, but it's like the way people kind
26:22
Speaker 2: of viewed him. Yeah, he just kind of stayed in
26:24
Speaker 2: the middle because he didn't want to piss off anybody
26:26
Speaker 2: because he was such a global brand.
26:29
Speaker 1: So it's smart.
26:30
Speaker 2: It's a lot of layers to it, man, And it's
26:32
Speaker 2: just funny seeing how people react whenever we talk about it.
26:35
Speaker 1: Man, you think let's close it out way, you think
26:38
Speaker 1: he's retiring this year. I think though, I think I think.
26:41
Speaker 2: I think he got one more year and maybe two
26:44
Speaker 2: of let me take a reduced role because I think he.
26:48
Speaker 1: Well his contracts up.
26:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he can stay and be like a
26:51
Speaker 2: fifteen pointed game type of guy, maybe a twelve pointed
26:54
Speaker 2: game type of guy with less minutes. You know, it
26:57
Speaker 2: depends on I feel like it just depends on his mindset,
27:00
Speaker 2: like does he want to be contributing to a title
27:03
Speaker 2: team to get a ring or does he still want
27:05
Speaker 2: to be the focal pro.
27:06
Speaker 1: Here's my take, pay cut d Mitch James Harden final
27:12
Speaker 1: calves run close out his career with the championship. Tell
27:16
Speaker 1: me that's not a squad.
27:17
Speaker 2: People people talking about that.
27:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a squad.
27:19
Speaker 2: Already got a squad now. And if they can get
27:21
Speaker 2: Lebron on like a veteran minimum or something, that would
27:25
Speaker 2: be kind of scary.
27:26
Speaker 1: Bro. I love that. As his clothes out here, Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: get his fifth ring, close his hand out.
27:31
Speaker 2: We're gonna see what happens. Man. All we want to
27:34
Speaker 2: know is if Lebron is gonna stay. But but