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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP26 - Near Death Experience (feat. Richard McCune) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  And he's got a really neat outlook on things, he's he
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  practices a bit of like a cult type beliefs but he it's heavily
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  rooted in. In like enochian keys and
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  enochian magic or whatever. So I always refer to him as my
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  enochian brother and he is a brother to me.
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  He is, although not Pagan or Heathen, he is definitely
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  someone who I would consider Ken, you know, or kith as an
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  extension of the kin Circle and he has been, he's been to every
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  holds that he is like a an honorary You know, Tribal
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  member, he has, he has contributed to said, rituals
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  over over the years, and we've spoken many, many word over the
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  horn as it were right. We've, we've exchanged a lot of
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  wisdom and weird taught, a lot of weird with each other and
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  exchange, the not the gift of knowledge in that way.
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  So, you know, sometimes I remember some evenings where I
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  would sit with him and he would, we just be talking and then, you
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  know, the hours go by and you lose track of time.
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  So Richard Kuhn is his name. You like I said Ben been
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  gmail.com. So yeah.
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  Yeah, another long hot. Hot muggy summer Week here in.
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  In the hot state of Tennessee. It it's pretty much been like
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  that for for a while now. I don't think we're going to see
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  Tennessee. Come by, starting around noon,
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  Come out. Say hi, hang out with us for a
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  bit. Yeah, let's go ahead and welcome
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  Richard. And we're going to be lighting
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  are incensed soon as he joins us and The topic of today's
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  discussion is going to be a story that he has to tell of an
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  experience that he had of the near-death kind.
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  He had quite a interesting thing happened to him last year quite
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  a quite a scary thing. Happened to him.
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  Last year. Pulled through amazingly, well
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  he's back to his old self as it were but maybe not quite as old
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  self. I think things like near death
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  experiences. Can really change a man change
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  person. So yes, we will be talking about
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  his nde, so if that bothers you, or if it's not your thing, then
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  now's your chance to do it away. But I hope you listen and I hope
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  you stay, you know, a part of this whole thing because I think
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  I think we have a pretty fun episode lined up just the way
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  the discussion can go with it. So, without further Ado, let's
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  welcome. Richard McCune.
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  Right now. Here we are back again with yes,
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  the dick, the big dick over here and then that's it.
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  As far as sir. That's not it.
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  That's not an attempt to try to stroke your ego or anything else
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  for that matter. It's just your hand.
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  But yeah guys, Richard McQueen's back here, as you can tell.
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  And yeah, I think we got a pretty pretty neat podcast lined
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  up for us today while we get into it.
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  I've got, you know, the incense thing here that I'm going to
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  just fire up. But um, I was telling everybody
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  before Richard, that you're, you know, for those that are like
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  noon, right? That haven't seen you before or
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  known you before the other podcasts.
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  What's your, what's your, what's your deal man?
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  What's your background? I said I said an occultist kind
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  of but enochian and yeah hard to really hard to really like I
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  guess come up with a name for it.
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  So what would you what would you call it?
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  I'm okay with With the enochian thing because I do practice some
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  enochian magic. But I personally I like to pull
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  from a few different things. So if it's summer abuse and made
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  me sad will Christian if my view sound a little satanic if my you
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  know it's because I or or kind of magical kind of whoo just
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  Crystal. So, you know, it's because I
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  tend to pull and make my own belief system ideas and so on as
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  your hands and also the different parts, I guess right?
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  Many many toes are many different Waters.
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  Hey yeah. Yeah yeah.
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  Yeah. But I, you know, I've said I
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  said, I said to you in assets, other people before, you know,
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  like The religion or the way how we I guess, manifest our
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  spirituality, our religious beliefs, whatever matters.
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  Very little when it comes down to, like true friendship, you
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  know, because Chloe. Yeah, you know, I've shared a
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  lot of thoughts and ideas and just you know General I think
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  good wisdom, you know, wholesome ideas and stuff and we sat and
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  we've had conversations that have lasted hours without us
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  even yeah, realizing that it's taking that, you know, Time
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  flies by so yeah and we're at a point where you've you've
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  accepted me into your tribe and we look at each other as
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  brothers and and and you've said before and I think you've even
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  done podcasts on it, where you don't throw that?
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  You don't throw that brother, right thing?
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  Or Around to just everybody, you know.
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  No, yeah, indeed, I, I mentioned it a little bit in the kind of
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  like the intro parts of this episode here today is, you know,
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  all of the events that you like, they're almost every, you will.
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  I think well pretty. I every, every you'll event
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  that. Yeah, we posted here, like,
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  you've been a part of, and you've, you know, you've been a
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  part of those rituals and, and other rituals to, Where we, you
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  know, beyond brotherhood like you you're like that honorary
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  Tribal member, you know, always welcome around the the hearth
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  fire and to participate in our or things because of the
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  contributions, you know, the exchange of that gift of wisdom,
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  gift of knowledge that gift of experiencing all the things that
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  you can't really like pick up and hold as a gifted item but
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  nonetheless, they they are gifts.
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  I feel ya know exactly. So yeah, you're absolutely
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  brother to me, man, and I appreciate it.
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  Yeah, we had a, we had a wild thing happen to you not seeing
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  those little almost a year ago now believe or not help fast
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  that flew by. But um, so I gave the people a
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  little bit of a hint of the accept that or to the extent
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  that I said, you know, he had an experience of the near-death
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  variety. Yeah.
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  So I get kind of gay people that morning it's like hey if stuff
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  like this you know sure gives you or makes you uncomfortable
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  like turn away now because this is it's going to be one of those
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  podcasts right. We're going to be talking about
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  stuff like that but I I have really nothing else to lead up
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  to introduce it. So I guess why don't you just
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  kind of start from the beginning and go however wherever wherever
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  it goes man? However yeah.
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  Or do you want to go? I'll just The whole thing front
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  to back. And I have from back side side.
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  I so my wife and I took a small vacation to Wilmington, North
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  Carolina around November. To, you know, we did because we
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  love the beach. We love the beach, even no
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  matter what time of the year. It's the water, the the, the
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  ocean, the, The Sounds, it's just very comforting.
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  So we would go there. We have a good time.
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  We have friends hang out and then we like to take a stop by
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  the beach and just kind of sit there and just listen to listen
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  to the water. It's very very, very soothing
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  and relaxing and Well, one of our trips there, we went out
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  with some friends, and I ate and drank, and we got there Friday.
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  And then, the next day, I started feeling a little bit
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  uncomfortable, like, like a the feeling you get, when you have
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  an upset stomach, you know, like you might get a little bit of
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  food poisoning, legal sick to your stomach, and My later on
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  that night that Saturday night, I was feeling like but and my
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  wife decided in her friend decided to go and have dinner
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  and everything. Well, I said it home and watched
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  Hallmark movies on the TV that you know, how to change the
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  channel to. So I'm stuck you haven't watched
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  it in really thick of you're watching homework.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  This is it, I'm here. This is it.
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  This is what I'm saying. I can't believe you survived
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  such a near-death experience of watching home or moves, man.
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  Yeah, I think it was like three to five hours.
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  That's what it felt like, but I was feeling so bad, like it
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  could have been just two hours. But anyway, it was just bad
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  enough and so, my wife was her heart.
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  She loves homework movie. This time.
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  Yeah. Lifetime.
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  Original movies in the Hallmark Channel, man.
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  It's like it's the same regurgitated storylines every
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  year, but she loves them and, you know.
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  Yeah, so so they're watching and my stomach's churning and
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  feeling awful and everything. And then Sunday, we decided to
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  leave and we came back and Then and then I was feeling the same
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  way for, you know, three days in just getting progressively.
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  Slowly getting progressively worse fast forward to Friday.
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  I my stomach is bloated. Look like I'm nine months
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  pregnant and I'm throwing up and I'm like this is bad.
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  So we're like let's go to the I was urgent care type places, you
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  know and you know and maybe they can kind of do a CT scan or we
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  get there. They wouldn't do a CT scan, they
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  took blood work, but it nothing came up suspicious to where they
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  were like, oh, you have to go to the ER, but then again, here I
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  am looking like I'm nine months pregnant, I didn't have any pain
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  associated like you would have with rupturing your appendix, so
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  didn't have any pain on your right side or anything like
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  that? But I had a little bit of pain
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  like in the middle but it wasn't like bent over and pain kind of
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  feeling. It was just more like a
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  discomfort. And so the doctor comes in looks
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  at me feels around and, you know, he is definitely bloated,
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  but I think he just needs to fart it out.
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  That's exact words were. I think you just need to sit on
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  your husband and he'll just farted out.
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  Out and a man, I could have done that and I don't have a
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  doctorate degree. I only have an associate's
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  degree, I could have told you that I just said on one part it
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  out, right, am I? That was advice from a, from a,
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  from a physician, you know, didn't even say, I should go to
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  the the, ER, anything. So we left very suspicious,
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  like, we don't buy that and So, she took me to one, is hydration
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  places because I was sweating, I was kind of in and out.
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  And, you know, baby, I hydrating would help me a little bit.
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  And so, we went there and one of the nurses also have, like, you
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  didn't look good. I think he needs to go to the
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  hospital. And shortly after that, we went
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  to the the ER and They take me back to CT scan and the middle
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  of the CT scan I'm like vomiting and everything and vomiting like
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  on the way back it was getting progressively worse and the the
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  surgeon came in and was like well we're going to perform
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  emergency surgery. We think there might be a like a
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  blockage or something like that needless to say they opened me
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  up and they noticed I was septic and So they life flighted me to
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  Vanderbilt Hospital, which is being one in Nashville.
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  That's like the best hospital. The best care.
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  Yeah. Now we know, so you they they
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  you went back for the scan your vomiting on the way back to the
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  to get scanned. They did.
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  They get the results of your scan to determine?
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  We need to cut you open. Or was that just like a?
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  We think we know what's going on.
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  Its best? Yes, good.
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  Or like yeah, it was very, it was very evident that he's,
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  there's really something going on.
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  They took a good look at the CT Scan, they noticed, like a lot
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  of bowel type stuff going on. So they cut me open and then
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  when they cut me open, they realized that I was subject so
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  that I guess they washed me out and then they life flighted me
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  to Vanderbilt, I guess that's a part of this from what I
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  remember. I the only thing I remember out
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  of this is yummy, you weren't caught.
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  I was unconscious. The, the last conscious thought
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  I could hear was the was the helicopter blades going and then
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  I passed out again. And then a week later, I woke
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  up. and, Everything was explained to me what I've gone
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  through at by appendix had ruptured.
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  The reason why you didn't feel anything or have any pain
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  associated was because your appendix was not where it would
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  normally be for somebody. They said it was actually in the
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  middle and cushioned behind something.
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  So I didn't have any pain or anything so that they so I would
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  not have known and the only reason I was even concerned was
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  because why am I feel like I'm gonna pass out any moment in my
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  body but I was in shock I was in septic shock to my body was
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  shutting down and those feelings called with been looking like I
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  was nine months pregnant. Is that was all that all that
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  bow. I was four.
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  And I was full septic, they had to do three surgeries apparently
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  to repair everything, one of the surgeries involved being what
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  they call a bowel resection, which means I lost 19 inches of
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  intestine. Which was so destined along does
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  longer the long and large intestine the long intestine?
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  Yeah that one Jesse but that that that warm attention and you
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  know science class we watch Abyss what Bill Nye so the Lord
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  I don't know, maybe this we had, I don't know that part but I
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  think about a foot and a half away.
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  It's all you. Yeah, almost two feet and So,
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  you know, I big open wound and everything, and it wasn't a
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  staple everything. Shut kind of procedure.
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  They had to put you on a thing called a wound.
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  Vac And the this wound VAC is what starts closing everything
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  up. They stuffy with a bunch of
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  phone and and then they turn on the machine and it sucks, it
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  everything. And and then there's a thing
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  that fluid to flow through. So you can technically, they
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  stuffed with foam. Yeah, they still in the scar
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  like a Build-A-Bear basically, stuck you with phone up your ass
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  and then just, you know, shake a little bit.
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  I watched them, I watched him. Do it like the first time they
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  did it. I was I was high as high as hell
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  on the on Dilaudid and little bit.
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  And and then they Had they were cutting foam and everything and
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  just kind of stuff in me in like a little teddy bear and and then
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  there and then they had this court that they attach the
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  machine. And apparently it develops fluid
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  drainage and stuff like that. And just gross and everything.
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  And and there were like, okay, Richard, we're going to turn it
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  on. I was like, okay, and before I
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  could finish saying, okay they turned it on and And and you
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  feel like your soul is coming out of your body and and it was
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  very painful and that that was three times a week while I was
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  in the hospital and then by the time I left the hospital near
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  close to Christmas. So all in all I was in the
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  hospital from November 19th. Till.
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  December like a week or so before Christmas.
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  Something like that. So any or month?
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  Yeah, that a month or so, because I opted to do physical
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  therapy and stuff like that. I lost a bunch of weight.
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  When I went in, I was run 2:30 when I came out of hospital,
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  when I woke up I was wrong 188 and When I think one of the and
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  when I left the hospital, I was around 190 or so.
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  And I was on this wound, VAC until February this year until
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  about the end of February. And so I was on the wound VAC
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  thing for about three months. Yeah, and and that going to
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  physical therapy. They would act, they would
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  change my wound, VAC there at a learn to get my balance right.
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  You know, and get some muscles working.
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  Again, I couldn't do any app or anything.
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  I couldn't do anything to gauge your ads because the scar is
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  literally running from just below.
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  Oh oh my sternum to just about the groin area.
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  So it's like all the way down your belly never and eBay.
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  You basically were like you got dissected in a way.
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  Yeah, almost. Yeah, pretty much.
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  And that's scary enough. I mean you know I'm like
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  reliving this whole experience just from hearing you talk about
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  it because I vividly remember obviously where I was when when
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  your wife let us know because we were in North Carolina to yeah
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  at the time and so you know I think you guys were out there
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  the week before we were. And so like we had we my wife
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  and I had gone out to visit friends and family in Carolina
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  and then I guess this message saying that, you know, you're in
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  the hospital you were septic and there's an emergency
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  appendicitis, you know, that they're removing your appendix
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  and I was like, holy shit, you know, and just kind of listening
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  and following along with the carcass of stuff.
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  It was like this was bad like yes it was it was bad and and
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  you know knowing what the outcome could have been, you
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  know? I was like freaking out man.
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  I'm like, here I am in North Carolina like am I gonna have to
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  cut, you know, and not to give this or but I'm like, am I going
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  to have to am I going to come home and Bury my friend, you
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  know, like bury my brother. Like that's kind of the shit
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  that I was thinking about him like no fucking way.
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  Like no, that ain't happenin man.
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  He's got a hole through this, you know, and so yeah, like
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  reliving this, the emotions of it.
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  All right. Now for me is yeah it was it was
• 27:14
  it was and opted, not to downplay, I'm a year, you know,
• 27:18
  through it so like but it's a, it's really interesting.
• 27:27
  And this is where I get I guess into the near death.
• 27:32
  Experience, some type of things. You know, it's surprising you
• 27:39
  would think that some people would be traumatized and some
• 27:43
  sort of way coming out of it being in the hospital that long
• 27:46
  and being in that, and in the hospital bed, for over two
• 27:50
  weeks, and a week of your life is gone.
• 27:57
  Yeah. Literally part of you has gone
• 27:58
  away. I mean that, you know, two feet
• 28:00
  of your intestine, you lost 45 pounds.
• 28:03
  I mean, just like crazy changes of your physical body, right?
• 28:08
  Yeah. The.
• 28:15
  Hardest part. Of the whole experience.
• 28:22
  Was I was on a lot of drugs. I was on fentanyl propofol
• 28:32
  Michael Jackson mixture basically and all sorts of other
• 28:36
  stuff, being being too. What's that big to?
• 28:44
  They put em. I can't remember the name of it.
• 28:49
  It's like a not a, it's like a tube that goes all the way down
• 28:55
  its road to and and, you know, they got Pull it out once they
• 29:00
  once you're healed enough and you know that yeah.
• 29:04
  Yeah. There's no there's no like
• 29:05
  there's no talking while I mean things like literally just shove
• 29:07
  down your gullet. Pretty much.
• 29:09
  Yeah. And I was tied to the, I was
• 29:15
  restrained during that two weeks.
• 29:22
  And I see you because I had an open wound.
• 29:26
  They didn't want my hands going near.
• 29:29
  They didn't want to take that risk at all.
• 29:31
  I don't blame them. So I was restrained and and I
• 29:38
  remember like getting the nurses attention so you can't speak.
• 29:48
  So there's a suction to help suction out, you know, stuff in
• 29:52
  the belly like, like bound fluid and stuff like that, you know,
• 29:57
  well, I couldn't, I had trouble finding it a lot.
• 30:00
  And so, I had to get their attention, and try to get them
• 30:07
  to get the thing to suck, everything out, and So I would
• 30:15
  is going to be gross. I would intentionally make
• 30:17
  myself throw up, so they would come over and do a needed to be
• 30:24
  done. You know?
• 30:28
  It sounds awful, it's the worst ever.
• 30:34
  But then coming off of those drugs.
• 30:39
  It was rough. I remember the first couple
• 30:43
  days. I was awake a little bit more
• 30:46
  cognizant. Sleeping was very hard.
• 30:55
  I was having these weird dreams or I remember telling you the
• 31:03
  about this. Ike.
• 31:10
  You know. I'm sleeping in that feeling of
• 31:18
  that sinking feeling. Yeah.
• 31:22
  Like we were losing ground in a way and you're kind of like
• 31:25
  falling but we're slipping and I was having dreams of being going
• 31:31
  down like a like a dirt tunnel and I kept seeing different
• 31:37
  symbols, some symbols are recognized.
• 31:39
  Some, I didn't so much sound. My cymbals I recognized from my
• 31:45
  really my faves that I've come across and some symbols who came
• 31:50
  across from yours. Especially I definitely remember
• 31:59
  seeing freya's symbol, definitely.
• 32:04
  Remember saying, I think, Odin And but also saw Apollo
• 32:18
  Astronauts in my in my face and I saw his symbol.
• 32:26
  So and so, all these different things that sinking feeling and
• 32:30
  that feeling that, if I let myself go, just like that, I'll
• 32:35
  just keep falling now. Just keep going and never come
• 32:40
  back up. So I would force myself awake.
• 32:47
  and, I don't know if it's the result of the drugs.
• 32:53
  And being messed up that I had these dreams.
• 32:56
  But these dreams were very real real to me and This is all while
• 33:04
  you're in the, in the ICU or recovering from the certain like
• 33:08
  this is all during that. Yeah, right?
• 33:10
  Yeah, this was after that first week, so I guess You know that
• 33:23
  first week I was completely out. So I was awakened cognizant and
• 33:30
  the first couple days after being awake awake and and
• 33:36
  pulling work on isn't every time the the whole the rest of the
• 33:40
  week was rough to sleep like, but the first couple of first
• 33:47
  couple days. Maybe first three days were like
• 33:50
  the worst because I was coming off those really hard drugs and
• 33:55
  everything. Yeah, that I was on and I'll and
• 33:57
  having those dreams. There were the same dream like I
• 34:03
  swear like two days in a row and then after that was just After
• 34:15
  that was just, you know, I hate hospitals.
• 34:18
  So, like I would probably sleep, you know, a few hours and then
• 34:25
  wake up. It was kind of normal for a
• 34:27
  little while at that point but I wasn't having those dreams
• 34:30
  anymore, but it was that first couple days after recovering.
• 34:39
  That I was having all that, all those dreams.
• 34:42
  I was just telling you about an hour like down dead.
• 34:48
  Sorry, that's fine. I'll save it till later.
• 34:50
  Go ahead. Yeah.
• 34:52
  I remember those telling you those dreams and everything when
• 34:57
  it occurred and he said it matched up when it when you were
• 35:02
  visiting your friend Jam? Yeah, I know you Carolina.
• 35:09
  And that was like, the timing of things were.
• 35:13
  So I don't know. Like very interesting the way
• 35:18
  things lined up, right? Because right before we went to
• 35:22
  North Carolina, I went on my shamanic Journey with Dingo and
• 35:28
  Patrick and we did our, you know, ritual out there and in
• 35:32
  around are Vey and it was a it was an all-night shamanic
• 35:36
  experience and then You know, literally less than a week
• 35:40
  later, I'm in North Carolina and finding out about your
• 35:43
  situation. And that's the weekend that I
• 35:46
  was at JMS. You know, where we held a little ritual of our own,
• 35:52
  you know, where there was, you know, time spent around the
• 35:56
  fire. There was drumming, there was,
• 35:57
  it was, it was again, very, very spiritual and very ritualistic
• 36:01
  experience. Coming off of the coattails of
• 36:04
  an intense. Mind-altering, you know, altered
• 36:11
  state of consciousness experience that I had the week
• 36:13
  before. So I'm literally like reeling
• 36:15
  from the after-effects of that experience and still not quite
• 36:20
  back to my normal self. You know what I mean?
• 36:22
  Like, yeah, I was I was still really not all here but never
• 36:26
  still. I was still very new to like
• 36:28
  this Human Experience after having gone through something.
• 36:31
  So So so yeah. Roaring you know and then again
• 36:37
  to find out about all that and I was like I don't you know, I
• 36:39
  think in a way that that experience going on that journey
• 36:43
  and then being in North Carolina with jme.
• 36:45
  So I think everything included helped me too.
• 36:51
  Kind of process what was going on with you in a holistic way.
• 36:57
  It's knowing and understanding the severity of it, but not like
• 37:00
  losing. My absolute mind thinking about
• 37:03
  the consequent or what could ultimately happen here.
• 37:07
  Like, what are we facing right? It was almost like, I get it, I
• 37:10
  understand it, but I met some I was like this weird to say
• 37:12
  because again I wasn't doing experience but I was like at
• 37:14
  peace with it in a way, you know, like yeah he's going to be
• 37:17
  okay. It's going to be rough but In
• 37:21
  that moment having that time and that experience really helped me
• 37:24
  to connect to the bigger picture.
• 37:29
  I don't know, relativity, if of life and our place in this
• 37:33
  universe and where we land and where we fall in just, how kind
• 37:37
  of just it is what it is, right? Like, you know, yeah, whatever.
• 37:41
  Whatever is to be is going to be but I'm prepared for it either
• 37:44
  way, but I don't know, like, just thinking of back about that
• 37:47
  moment and having the memories of how I was feeling still
• 37:50
  thinking about like, and, you know, this could happen like
• 37:53
  this is a possibility, glad it didn't course.
• 37:57
  But, you know, and I was wondering, like, when you were
• 38:00
  talking about the dreams and the feelings of falling or slipping
• 38:05
  into this Chasm, or this tunnel, or this, you know, how you
• 38:09
  describe it as like this. This dirt looks like a mine
• 38:12
  shaft. I'm thinking of them, like, in
• 38:14
  ways that to describe it like this, just Earth written and and
• 38:17
  the dream to clarify a little bit more.
• 38:21
  The the this dream I was having it wasn't just One thing and
• 38:25
  then it was over. I would go back to sleep and
• 38:29
  then it was start up again, it was continuous.
• 38:33
  Same thing for the entire night I would keep waking up and I
• 38:38
  would be like, okay I'm here, I'm breathing.
• 38:42
  Alright. Then I had fault drugs off.
• 38:45
  Fell back asleep. It was startup get this feeling
• 38:49
  and then I would force myself awake.
• 38:51
  It was like this for two days. So I was wondering like did when
• 38:57
  you would come back, right? When you when you said, you kind
• 38:59
  of a force yourself back awake was, it was it an Abrupt
• 39:02
  re-entry into the room and the space around you or was or was
• 39:07
  it as much of a going down this Hall and now I'm coming back up
• 39:10
  this whole to get back to my conscious.
• 39:12
  So was there, I was, it was a media, it was brought, it was
• 39:16
  very abrupt and but that feeling of going up, the tunnel was that
• 39:23
  quick as well. So is this like that whole just
• 39:26
  coming back up? Yeah.
• 39:31
  So do you think that the because I know from you know and he's
• 39:37
  you know near-death experiences there they're very widely
• 39:40
  documented everybody has different Recollections of what
• 39:44
  they would refer to as a an nde. And and I know that this podcast
• 39:49
  is to talk about that. Do you do you do you think That
• 39:55
  the dreams after the initial results of like you know the
• 40:00
  distance that the stomach distension, the vomiting being
• 40:03
  in surgery and then not remembering anything until you
• 40:06
  walk back up. Do you think that what you were
• 40:08
  experiencing was this? Drifting of your conscious self
• 40:13
  into death. Like do you think that that's
• 40:15
  what those dreams were or those Visions or whatever you want to
• 40:19
  call them? Do you think that that would be
• 40:22
  What you would refer to as a near-death experience that it
• 40:24
  was like your body almost being like it's time to go and you're
• 40:27
  like, no, I'm not going to go. That's that's what it.
• 40:31
  That's what it really felt like to me.
• 40:35
  I'm, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I'm not gonna or anything but
• 40:40
  like, it really, it really felt like that.
• 40:44
  To me, feel more like, oh, I don't care what people think.
• 40:52
  Lamb old man. Yeah, kind of come out here for
• 40:55
  a minute but like I don't really care what people who believe in
• 41:00
  it or don't believe in it. I don't care what they think
• 41:06
  because they wouldn't it's one of those things you just
• 41:11
  wouldn't know unless you're going through yourself.
• 41:14
  And so I'm just going to just be a matter of fact about that.
• 41:25
  You know. so, it was very You know.
• 41:38
  I felt like I was leaving this place.
• 41:41
  My energy was going about going somewhere else, and I could feel
• 41:44
  it and I was not ready for it. I didn't like it.
• 41:50
  It wasn't just wasn't my time. And yeah.
• 41:55
  So that's the really my thoughts on it.
• 42:01
  I, I, you know, I after I have Covered in everything I Googled
• 42:10
  and don't ever do this. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:13
  Dangerous route. Yeah, Google like what sepsis
• 42:20
  the survival rate it was under 50% like 30 percent of people
• 42:27
  who get sepsis lived to tell about it and so in Maybe the
• 42:38
  reason why I survived is because I wasn't I wasn't older or
• 42:42
  anything because some of those statistics were for people who
• 42:48
  who are a little older and let it go.
• 42:51
  They usually don't make it. You know, maybe AIDS played into
• 42:57
  it. I don't know, but I just knew it
• 43:05
  was not my time and and not I got a lot of things, I need that
• 43:11
  I wanted to accomplish. And you know, I just been
• 43:18
  married that point for about six months, right?
• 43:25
  So when a hell of a way to you know, what a hell of a start to
• 43:29
  your first year of marriage man, he go ahead, rupture your
• 43:33
  appendix and you don't stay with you, she don't stick with you
• 43:37
  for the rest of your life. After going through that with
• 43:39
  you then, man, she and something's wrong man because
• 43:43
  Kudos are cleared for being so strong and being aware there.
• 43:46
  And, you know, I love Charlie to death and she's good for you
• 43:50
  man. And she's been the an awesome.
• 43:54
  Opponent to the life of Richard, you know, and now your lives
• 43:58
  together like yeah. Thank you manly, what a
• 44:02
  incredible story. And, you know, you talk about
• 44:05
  like, you know, your physical age and what not being the
• 44:08
  factor, no doubt, right? That you being a middle-aged
• 44:15
  somewhat healthy, right guy, whatever.
• 44:19
  Like you, you're not the correct that, you know, you know, you up
• 44:23
  with the Getty had a healthy youth.
• 44:24
  Are you active in your swimming and all that other kind of
• 44:27
  stuff? Well, so wonder if because of
• 44:32
  the visions that you had in all that and experiences and having
• 44:36
  some sort of at least, to some degrees, a subconscious
• 44:38
  understanding of what that was right, you maybe maybe didn't
• 44:43
  have it like all mapped out or whatever in the moment, but at
• 44:47
  least having some sort of again, so conscious realization of what
• 44:51
  it was because of your spirituality and your Three in
• 44:55
  the practices that you've had over the years because this
• 44:58
  enochian thing, right? This isn't just like you woke up
• 45:00
  the other day and thought, yeah, this is what I want to be.
• 45:02
  Like this has been a part of your life for a while, at least,
• 45:06
  right? Yeah.
• 45:07
  You think that the do you think that your Not just your physical
• 45:14
  health but your spiritual health contributed to your survival and
• 45:18
  not succumbing to that. It's very welcome to the other.
• 45:23
  Yeah, it's possible. I mean, because I just think of
• 45:30
  it as like. Why else would you think that
• 45:32
  I'm not ready for that yet? I have other things I need to do
• 45:35
  and I'm not gonna slip into this.
• 45:37
  I am if I and If I'm saying the symbols, I was saying when when
• 45:47
  I was having this experience, I probably would have wrote it off
• 45:53
  as something just a weird dream, the effect of the drugs, but
• 45:59
  because I'm familiar with these symbols, I knew that there was
• 46:07
  other things at play here. so, you know, I firmly believe it,
• 46:20
  you know I mean like I think I think that with the combination
• 46:23
  of your path and then just having the experiences that
• 46:28
  we've had together and and you know the talks that we've had
• 46:33
  The conversations that we held over many a horn of meat and
• 46:38
  other Libations. And it was just that whole
• 46:41
  camaraderie, the whole experience, right?
• 46:43
  It's almost like, you know, there was, there was parts of
• 46:46
  all of that that whether, you know, it or not, or whether you
• 46:50
  think about it or not almost in a way prepares you for something
• 46:55
  like this, right? Whether it's, you know, You
• 47:00
  know, the the death or the illness of a loved one or
• 47:03
  whether it's your own mortality. Taking hold and basing things
• 47:08
  like those are the foundations I think in the building blocks for
• 47:14
  preparing, oneself to deal with it.
• 47:17
  Right? The the Unseen the unknown, that
• 47:19
  the thing beyond what we know is our moral experience.
• 47:23
  And what we see in here taste and touch and all that.
• 47:28
  There's some basic senses. The other reason why I feel that
• 47:32
  the other things were at play were the the timing of when you
• 47:40
  were there and doing your experience with with Jan.
• 47:45
  And also I have another friend who I think I've talked about it
• 47:50
  on before about my enochian. Magic a little bit, add a person
• 48:00
  who served as sort of a medium for me in the beginning that
• 48:05
  would help me. That would she would channel was
• 48:09
  sorcerer to sort of a condiment. So the So, they could speak
• 48:17
  through her and everything and that takes a lot of energy and a
• 48:21
  lot of toll on someone that that same person reached out while I
• 48:28
  was gone as well. So, there were, there was you.
• 48:32
  And then there was my friend and And of course everybody else
• 48:42
  that were in their thoughts. All that stuff played into it.
• 48:48
  A lot of energy is being put out there man in this you know the
• 48:52
  universe you want to call it the spirit realm.
• 48:54
  Like there was a lot of. Yeah.
• 48:56
  And like I said before, I've said this before.
• 49:00
  Many times what you put out in the universe, the universe will
• 49:03
  return in kind that. That is so true here.
• 49:09
  What's up? Yeah.
• 49:13
  It's a I don't know mean like my and you know, a lot of my own
• 49:19
  growth and speed and in my spirituality that where I've
• 49:22
  grown and what I've become has found its place in not so much
• 49:31
  like the Unseen well not so much like the Unseen in terms of like
• 49:35
  the gods, right? Or or what you I consider like
• 49:37
  the Divine or sacred beings. It's found its place in the
• 49:41
  things that are seeing like the earth and the and nature and
• 49:47
  things and realizing that their Spirits all around us, they take
• 49:52
  form, they take form of, you know, a heron or an eagle or or
• 49:59
  the rocks, and the trees and the water in the, you know, the
• 50:02
  trails and then nature and stuff.
• 50:03
  Like there's literally a multitude of Sentient beings
• 50:10
  like we are but just in different form existing all
• 50:13
  around us and tapping into those you know tongue like tapping
• 50:17
  into those places and connecting.
• 50:20
  Reconnecting back to those places has opened up such a
• 50:26
  window for me and realizing just where I where I am in this big
• 50:32
  universe as you say the things that you put out you get back.
• 50:34
  It's it is it doesn't make it so like its Fast and there's this
• 50:39
  void that kind of blows your mom, you think just the Batman,
• 50:41
  the size of it, all and others in comparison as p as beings.
• 50:46
  But at the same time, it's also like, but I am the part of this.
• 50:50
  And I am able to influence this and this, and I can manipulate
• 50:54
  things, and make things happen, because I've done it.
• 50:56
  I've seen it, and it's happened. It's so, you know, I don't know,
• 50:58
  man. It's like a such a Wild Thing to
• 51:04
  know that you're not just you're not nobody here, we're not
• 51:08
  nobody. So we are we are powerful beings
• 51:12
  you know. Yeah the and we have the ability
• 51:14
  to do some really powerful shit, you know.
• 51:17
  Yeah, yeah. And and and being a part of that
• 51:22
  in different ways. You know exactly especially when
• 51:27
  it comes to like the mortality aspect of things, you know like
• 51:31
  Suffering loss. But seeing the life that still
• 51:38
  continues to exist, despite that loss, right?
• 51:42
  I mean there's there there are more times than I can count on
• 51:44
  my hand that my wife's brother, who you know, his his, the
• 51:51
  anniversary of his passing was just last week, you know?
• 51:57
  his physical body isn't present, but He's still around like
• 52:01
  they're like as I can count, I can count on more times than I
• 52:05
  care to think about on how many times.
• 52:07
  I he's made himself manifest, you know, he has a daughter or
• 52:10
  niece that's a form of life that's tied to him, you know.
• 52:15
  So it's like just being aware of the Cycles, you know, seeing you
• 52:23
  rebound. And that's another thing I
• 52:24
  wanted to talk about man, because like you were saying,
• 52:26
  like, I don't vent like that could could could severely and
• 52:30
  Sure has you know, traumatized people and it's, you know,
• 52:36
  that's understandable, you know, to go through such a traumatic
• 52:40
  event of nearly dying and having part of your body, literally
• 52:44
  ripped out of you and all this other kind of stuff like yeah
• 52:48
  hmm and like in here you are man.
• 52:51
  Like playing Rock shows onstage and and living your best life,
• 52:58
  right? Yeah.
• 52:59
  After surviving Such a thing. I mean, that's it.
• 53:01
  That's iconic, man, it's legendary.
• 53:04
  And I think that like, I look at that.
• 53:07
  I'm showing damn, like, what a, what a, what a, what, an
• 53:09
  example, the set, you know. It's it's, it's very interesting
• 53:19
  that The amount of. people who responded because I got to see
• 53:30
  all those messages and people who followed on social media who
• 53:38
  cared and something like something like this.
• 53:43
  You know, you learn who your friends are and I'm not going to
• 53:50
  say anything negative about it but you learn who your friends
• 53:56
  are and you know, who's close to you and So this has given me a
• 54:05
  different perspective on friendship and you know who to
• 54:13
  let in who not to let in there's you know, being in the music,
• 54:20
  scene means a musician. You know, there's people I held
• 54:28
  on a on a pedestal, you know, promote for Most of most of his
• 54:34
  life, you know, and I don't have as much people I put on a
• 54:43
  pedestal anymore because I honestly do not need that.
• 54:48
  And in my life you know, because those people I've put on a
• 54:55
  pedestal for most of my life. Didn't bother to reach out.
• 55:01
  And and so, you know, grounded me and things in perspective,
• 55:10
  right? Mmm.
• 55:13
  And And because of the you learn who your friends are.
• 55:22
  It led me back into a band that I was not no longer involved?
• 55:30
  In I moved on at stepped away from it.
• 55:34
  I thought my time in the music scene was pretty much over then,
• 55:41
  my appendix thing happened and When those people guys, in the
• 55:46
  band reached out and everything and showed support that changed
• 55:54
  my perspective, you know, those people I was putting on a
• 55:57
  pitiless pedestal that didn't care.
• 55:59
  Then the ones that I left thought, I didn't care, still
• 56:03
  cared, spoke volumes to me. And then when they reached out
• 56:10
  to me, like, hey man, you want to come Jan?
• 56:13
  That was a That was a fucking no-brainer in my opinion like
• 56:18
  yeah whatever happened was in the past you know it's do it and
• 56:25
  now rattletrap got to play our first show as a band at Exit an
• 56:31
  and checked off a bucket list item for me and and is so
• 56:38
  amazing sort of have this. Come back, if you will.
• 56:45
  Yeah, or rebirth in a way, you know.
• 56:48
  And I'm not just saying just for from a problem of Music
• 56:51
  perspective. But a life perspective like I
• 56:59
  I'm more into my faith as I thought.
• 57:04
  I'm not necessarily necessarily mean reading books, or, or
• 57:11
  dancing around naked in a camp camp fire though.
• 57:16
  The that is fun. Run out.
• 57:17
  I've run out of book 3 so you know I got to do something.
• 57:29
  Don't knock it till you try it. Yeah.
• 57:34
  So you know, I'm more in tuned with with my beliefs in my my my
• 57:43
  faith and my being that I've ever have, I'm a little bit more
• 57:52
  driven. I still like to be lazy because
• 57:57
  I like to be lazy as fuck and don't get me wrong but but I'm
• 58:02
  very driven when I am involved in things and them as a musician
• 58:12
  I'm pranking out the guitar riffs left and right so well
• 58:17
  like I say you know that there's so much of your like you say you
• 58:20
  know, the near-death experience like your life is your life and
• 58:23
  and part of your life is Music, you are a musician and I don't
• 58:27
  know, too many people who are legitimate musicians who would
• 58:33
  not would say that music is not a part of their life.
• 58:37
  I would start by the right it's always been a part of my life
• 58:41
  you know whether it's sending in the background with Forefront
• 58:47
  right now it's it's at the Forefront you know they kind of
• 58:53
  do Went through that like roller coaster of experiences, right?
• 58:59
  And the thing that kind of launched the rattletrap to to be
• 59:05
  what it is, you could almost look at in a way it was like
• 59:10
  you're near death. Was it the near-death that
• 59:12
  needed the thing to die and be reborn into what it is?
• 59:16
  Now if you want something? That's how I look at things.
• 59:18
  Anyway, that's how I see. It was like there was a, there
• 59:21
  was a time that part of you. Was dying and whatever part of
• 59:27
  you that was connected to the band and in any sort of way and
• 59:30
  then what needed to die did. And now look what has happened
• 59:33
  because it's like, there was this Resurgence, this this
• 59:36
  revitalized approach to and you guys play exit in and like
• 59:40
  that's nuts. That's yeah.
• 59:42
  And also the, my Everything that I did in the past is in the past
• 59:55
  now and I don't mind talking about it.
• 1:00:00
  I used to get very nervous and talk about it.
• 1:00:02
  Used to be a afraid of judgment or, or how people feel about me
• 1:00:07
  because of my past. I don't really give a shit about
• 1:00:11
  that anymore. What's in?
• 1:00:15
  The past is in the past. And what I'm doing now is most
• 1:00:19
  Gordon have a beautiful, lovely wife, who takes very good care
• 1:00:24
  of me. And I take very good care of
• 1:00:26
  her. I'm surrounded by some of the
• 1:00:28
  best friends and possible. Have a wonderful brothers.
• 1:00:32
  You and I, I'm full, it's overflowing. so emerging and
• 1:00:45
  that's inspiring, you know, that's inspirational and Live
• 1:00:53
  your life to the fullest you know and if you run into a bump
• 1:00:59
  in the road, take advantage of it, you know.
• 1:01:02
  And you know don't look at the down side, don't get depressed.
• 1:01:09
  I'm not dramatic because of this experience, I'm reborn because
• 1:01:16
  of this experience. Yeah man.
• 1:01:20
  I think a lot of people that listen and watch this podcast.
• 1:01:23
  Will I think that I think this whole episode this, this story
• 1:01:28
  that you shared with the world will resonate to a lot of people
• 1:01:33
  in a lot of different ways. You know, everybody has a story
• 1:01:38
  and how that story gets told and when that story gets shared is
• 1:01:42
  up to the person and it's all it all ties into.
• 1:01:47
  I think how we Write our stories, how we tell our sagas
• 1:01:54
  you know I like almost an m in almost every episode at least in
• 1:01:58
  multiple ways. I've said that you know and it's
• 1:02:00
  not just me I mean I didn't coin this phrase.
• 1:02:03
  It's come from a bunch of different sources but we live in
• 1:02:05
  Saga times and the stock is that are being written.
• 1:02:09
  Now may not be that of a great king who led an Army against,
• 1:02:15
  you know, opposition's or great Heroes that slug monster.
• 1:02:19
  Those are all these sorts of things that were in the old
• 1:02:21
  sagas or some of these old tales and folklore, but they are
• 1:02:25
  nonetheless, great Tales. You know, the story of the story
• 1:02:30
  of Richard who came back from from death and saw ancient
• 1:02:35
  symbols in a great tunnel where he was traveling through Into
• 1:02:40
  Darkness and he came back into Consciousness into life and went
• 1:02:45
  on to become a great scold among the people and see And performed
• 1:02:50
  great songs in front of an audience and performed on state.
• 1:02:52
  As you know, like stuff like that, man.
• 1:02:54
  That's that is the stuff that's obvious.
• 1:02:56
  You know what I'm saying? Like, you could, you could
• 1:02:59
  position it in that way and it's be, you know, kids to be just
• 1:03:01
  like, tell me the tell me the one about, you know, Richard the
• 1:03:05
  gutless whatever, he's the man who lost his helmet to think of
• 1:03:10
  his intestine like tell me that story again, right?
• 1:03:13
  But uh, yeah, it's like stuff like that.
• 1:03:16
  That is inspirational and It's, it's tough.
• 1:03:20
  But I think people can take their own experiences, however,
• 1:03:23
  big or small and be like, wow, this guy who I don't necessarily
• 1:03:27
  know very well, told this amazing, tale of endurance, and
• 1:03:32
  of rebirth. And of, you know, meeting the,
• 1:03:37
  the challenges that the frightening reality of
• 1:03:41
  possibilities of death and all that and then turned it around
• 1:03:45
  to become something to fuel. His life, right?
• 1:03:50
  I think that's pretty epic. Yeah, I mean, I realize I may be
• 1:03:54
  43 years old but I'm not a, I'm not a day over 90 then.
• 1:04:00
  Now look at the overnight. You must have me Just For Men
• 1:04:05
  because you have way less gray hair than I do.
• 1:04:09
  I tell you what? And my last job, someone
• 1:04:15
  actually asked me that and I gave her Rule sick and
• 1:04:18
  disgusting answer. Yeah, II don't know if it's safe
• 1:04:22
  for this podcast but probably you have a healthy diet.
• 1:04:28
  Well, I mean you can also use a lot of lotion, you know, five
• 1:04:36
  times a day, five times a day. So got a bump up the numbers,
• 1:04:42
  right? That's, that's a modest amount
• 1:04:45
  for a man of forty, three hours. And there's only so many hours
• 1:04:50
  in a day, when you're not, you know, shopping for life
• 1:04:52
  insurance and taking power naps. Take a power nap and get up and
• 1:05:01
  get going again. You know, you got to take that,
• 1:05:05
  you got it, you got it. You got to pull off to the side
• 1:05:07
  of the road, every 20 minutes for a bathroom break, you know,
• 1:05:12
  this is Bob Ross, used to say whenever you pound his
• 1:05:15
  paintbrush to to the easel, he would say just got to bang it
• 1:05:20
  out, bang it out. Those are words to live by,
• 1:05:27
  that's a mantra that Behind you know, shoot my happy little
• 1:05:31
  accidents all over the place and just bang it out.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, yeah. That's that's great.
• 1:05:43
  I'm so glad that we got a chance to, you know?
• 1:05:45
  Because I've talked with you, obviously about this since then
• 1:05:48
  and we've had our own little one-on-one or group.
• 1:05:52
  Conversations about the whole thing but II want to thank you
• 1:05:57
  very much for being willing to talk about this and revisit it
• 1:06:02
  and be candid enough to basically just a wide audience
• 1:06:08
  of people too. And really a broad and share
• 1:06:12
  that with with people I think I think it's going to resonate
• 1:06:16
  with a lot of folks, I really do.
• 1:06:18
  Yeah you know I used to be very timid about talking about
• 1:06:25
  personal things about religion and things like that and I'm not
• 1:06:30
  scared to talk about it at all anymore.
• 1:06:34
  I don't care how people see me When I talk about this things, I
• 1:06:42
  used to but you know you only live once for sure.
• 1:06:50
  And I mentioned this to you before you came on here that you
• 1:06:54
  know, you're no stranger to the podcast.
• 1:06:56
  Of course, you know, we've been friends now for a long time and
• 1:06:58
  in our brothers. So, yeah, for four people that
• 1:07:01
  are wanting to know a little bit more about Richard and his
• 1:07:03
  background in the description and in the show notes, I'm going
• 1:07:08
  to link the, the last podcast episode that you were on here
• 1:07:11
  with me. And I'm also going to link the
• 1:07:13
  very first video that you came onto the channel YouTube
• 1:07:19
  channel. We satisfy this very space, we
• 1:07:21
  had this backdrop behind us, we talked about things.
• 1:07:23
  It was almost like a little interview, sort of thing that's
• 1:07:27
  going to be linked in annotated and all that here in the.
• 1:07:30
  So for people that want to know a little bit more about, you
• 1:07:33
  know, Richard and our history as much as it's revealed.
• 1:07:37
  The nose in that content. Definitely check out the
• 1:07:40
  description. Check out the show notes and
• 1:07:42
  bring yourselves up to speed because yeah, from from the,
• 1:07:46
  from where you and I first met each other, like the channels,
• 1:07:49
  and all that, when we first met each other and to where we are
• 1:07:53
  now, Like couldn't have called it, I would never have thought
• 1:07:58
  that this is where we would be right here.
• 1:08:00
  In shh, when we first met, you know, it was the music and
• 1:08:04
  that's crazy thing. Like so many of my friends and
• 1:08:07
  people have become brother to me, it all started with the
• 1:08:10
  music scene and that was that, that was the common ground.
• 1:08:13
  That was the thing. That started a acquaintance
• 1:08:17
  relationship which blossomed into friendship, which then grew
• 1:08:20
  into not everybody by no means not, not everybody.
• 1:08:24
  But the That have become brothers and family to me it's
• 1:08:28
  where it started. Yeah that that music scene, that
• 1:08:32
  music Circle and the ability to I don't know.
• 1:08:37
  We words through song and tell Tales Yeah and Powerful magic.
• 1:08:45
  No man like it really is. You think about it?
• 1:08:48
  Yeah it is and casting spells through sound like it's wild.
• 1:08:53
  So, you know, if anyone is interested, feel free to go.
• 1:09:01
  Check out my new band, rattletrap the two peas.
• 1:09:09
  You can take that down there too.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah. You guys have got you got some
• 1:09:13
  show somebody? Don't you.
• 1:09:15
  Oh yeah, we got a bunch coming up.
• 1:09:17
  We got August 6th, we're playing at, Bring It Back Games in
• 1:09:21
  Shelbyville and then shovel. Yo bro show you playing in the
• 1:09:28
  shuttle show. As I say if you shelter from if
• 1:09:32
  you from there you just drop all the letters.
• 1:09:34
  You just show so and then August.
• 1:09:41
  No I'm sorry. September 10th.
• 1:09:43
  We got another, we have another show.
• 1:09:45
  It's going to be our EP released party.
• 1:09:49
  It's going to be in Franklin at the whiskey room and and then we
• 1:09:56
  Some other shows coming up after that, and September and October.
• 1:10:02
  So if you want to follow, follow us through the click, on the
• 1:10:06
  link and like our page and like our stuff.
• 1:10:09
  And yes, all that all that good stuff.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah. And I know there's a lot of
• 1:10:14
  people that that listen and watch to this stuff that are in
• 1:10:19
  the respective Middle Tennessee areas, right.
• 1:10:21
  So you guys want to meet this man in person shake his hand by
• 1:10:25
  him a Water or beer, he still drink them.
• 1:10:29
  All right, a soldier soldier. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:32
  Buy this man. A beer, man for help.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah, let's take me almost died but I'm here right by me a beer.
• 1:10:41
  So yeah. All this stuff's going to be,
• 1:10:43
  you know, annotated and stuff in the description show notes.
• 1:10:46
  Are you guys check it out? Rattletrap the videos that and
• 1:10:50
  podcast episodes that Richards been on with me here and yeah, I
• 1:10:55
  think. Just about wraps it up.
• 1:10:57
  Is there anything else that you want to add before we tie this
• 1:11:02
  one off, you can hang out afterwards.
• 1:11:04
  I'll write you forbid after podcast, but anything else?
• 1:11:09
  That's it. You know, we're all it.
• 1:11:13
  What we all live together. We're all under the same world,
• 1:11:16
  same roof. So, everybody is seems to
• 1:11:22
  respect each other and love each other.
• 1:11:25
  That's the best way to be. And remember, as always
• 1:11:30
  everything that I've always said, Everything you put out of
• 1:11:33
  universe will get him response. Whether Good Karma or Bad Karma.
• 1:11:39
  That is a tenant I always live by.
• 1:11:42
  I highly suggest to live by it too and then you get what you
• 1:11:47
  get. Yeah.
• 1:11:49
  Absolutely. Isn't that a song?
• 1:11:54
  What You Get You Can't Always Get What You Want.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah. No he doesn't know that's a
• 1:12:00
  different one and then you come back and you know tear shit up
• 1:12:15
  on stage at exit in and that's that's the actual lyrics to the
• 1:12:18
  song to yeah. John Lennon in the boys from
• 1:12:28
  from, from the Rolling Stones, you know.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah. John Lennon of those guys
• 1:12:33
  anymore and Big Y in t-shirts and they and they played surf
• 1:12:36
  rock, you know, those guys and make Yeager pick Yeager.
• 1:12:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They named a, they named after
• 1:12:44
  the dreamer, they named the submarine after him, I think.
• 1:12:47
  Yeah. Maybe.
• 1:12:48
  I think they named a liquor after that.
• 1:12:51
  Could that be great or liquor damn near killed her.
• 1:12:59
  Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, pets, and non-binary,
• 1:13:03
  folks of all ages and shapes and sizes, and whatever.
• 1:13:08
  It's been real, it's been real fun.
• 1:13:10
  Thank you. Richard for being my guest, in
• 1:13:11
  my friend of my brother has always here.
• 1:13:14
  Also for everybody that's, you know, tuning in and watching,
• 1:13:16
  check the description for all the stuff that we already talked
• 1:13:19
  about. And until the next episode, May
• 1:13:22
  the gods continue to notice you and your ancestors.
• 1:13:26
  Smile upon you. Thanks for tuning in, we'll see
• 1:13:29
  you next time.