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- 0:01Speaker 1: October Perez had no choice but to trust the adults
- 0:04Speaker 1: around her with her life. She was only two years
- 0:07Speaker 1: old and needed those adults to care for her. In
- 0:10Speaker 1: June of 2011, that trust would be broken when one
- 0:14Speaker 1: of those adults took her life. This is Monsters. Thank you.
- 0:44Speaker 1: October Ann Perez was born on January 10th, 2009, to
- 0:48Speaker 1: Christy Perez, who was married to a man named Freddy Perez,
- 0:51Speaker 1: but Freddy would soon find out that he was not
- 0:53Speaker 1: the father. Christy tried to cover up the fact that
- 0:56Speaker 1: she had cheated on her husband, but soon enough, a
- 0:59Speaker 1: paternity test would prove that a man named Michael Arndt
- 1:02Speaker 1: was actually October's father. After that, Christy and Freddy separated,
- 1:07Speaker 1: though never divorced, and at some point, she began dating
- 1:10Speaker 1: a man named David Wayne Hyslop. April Hall, Michael's mother,
- 1:15Speaker 1: would later go on record describing the condition of her
- 1:18Speaker 1: granddaughter after Christy started having a relationship with David. Michael
- 1:22Speaker 1: was in the military, and April would use his visitation
- 1:25Speaker 1: with October while he was deployed. She noticed that the
- 1:29Speaker 1: toddler was in pain, and when she took her to
- 1:31Speaker 1: the hospital, x-rays showed that she had a broken arm. Now,
- 1:35Speaker 1: by that point, April had already contacted Child and Family
- 1:38Speaker 1: Services once, but while Christy was distracted, she told someone
- 1:42Speaker 1: at the hospital to contact them again. The doctor backed
- 1:46Speaker 1: that up because he was suspicious that Christy couldn't give
- 1:49Speaker 1: any explanation on how the little girl had broken her arm.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Rachel Zins became the social worker on the case, and
- 1:55Speaker 1: the following day she claimed that she had met with
- 1:58Speaker 1: the county attorney and that there wasn't enough evidence to
- 2:01Speaker 1: take October out of her home. Later, the county attorney
- 2:04Speaker 1: would claim that he had never met with Rachel Zins.
- 2:08Speaker 1: April would later say that Rachel seemed completely unconcerned with
- 2:11Speaker 1: the situation, but that would soon be proven to be
- 2:14Speaker 1: a huge mistake. On June 23, 2011, David was looking
- 2:17Speaker 1: after October. Christy said that she was out of the
- 2:23Speaker 1: house attending a class to become an EMT, leaving David
- 2:26Speaker 1: to take care of her daughter. Two other adults lived
- 2:29Speaker 1: in the house on 4th Avenue South in Great Falls, Montana.
- 2:33Speaker 1: David's brother, Kendall Hyslop, and Kendall's fiancée, Janetta. October's half-brother,
- 2:39Speaker 1: who was the biological child of Freddy Perez, also lived
- 2:42Speaker 1: in the house for a while, but he was living
- 2:44Speaker 1: with his father in Phoenix, Arizona at the time. There
- 2:48Speaker 1: were also two dogs in the tiny home. At some
- 2:51Speaker 1: point that night, David decided he wanted to put October
- 2:54Speaker 1: to bed for a nap. Her bed was located downstairs
- 2:58Speaker 1: in the basement, with concrete flooring underneath. Shortly afterwards, David's
- 3:03Speaker 1: brother Kendall heard David yelling at the toddler, telling her, quote,
- 3:08Speaker 1: go to bed. There were several loud thumping sounds, and
- 3:11Speaker 1: then there was silence. David came back upstairs shortly afterwards
- 3:16Speaker 1: and informed his brother that he had put October to bed,
- 3:18Speaker 1: and she was now asleep. When his brother asked about
- 3:21Speaker 1: the thumps he'd heard, David explained that he had accidentally
- 3:25Speaker 1: hit his head while he was in the laundry room downstairs.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Christy arrived home about three hours later and heard October
- 3:32Speaker 1: crying and moaning in pain. The toddler was making enough
- 3:36Speaker 1: noise that Christy could hear it from the living room
- 3:38Speaker 1: of the house, but David insisted that October was just
- 3:42Speaker 1: whimpering because she was having a nightmare. Christy would later
- 3:45Speaker 1: testify that, instead of checking on her daughter, she and
- 3:49Speaker 1: David went out to pick up some food and then
- 3:51Speaker 1: engaged in sexual activity. By the time Christy finally went downstairs,
- 3:56Speaker 1: although October was still making noise, she appeared to be
- 3:59Speaker 1: unconscious and didn't respond to Christy's attempts to wake her up.
- 4:04Speaker 1: After Christy called 911, October was rushed to Benefice Hospital
- 4:08Speaker 1: in Great Falls for emergency medical treatment. The following day,
- 4:12Speaker 1: she was transferred to Salt Lake City for more specialized
- 4:15Speaker 1: care to the primary children's hospital. Despite the best efforts
- 4:20Speaker 1: of the doctors in the intensive care unit, October's condition
- 4:23Speaker 1: continued to deteriorate and on June 25th, two days after
- 4:28Speaker 1: she was injured, she passed away. Her cause of death
- 4:31Speaker 1: was documented as severe trauma to the head. Michael Arndt
- 4:35Speaker 1: had been stationed in Afghanistan when he received the news
- 4:38Speaker 1: that his young daughter had been seriously injured. He immediately
- 4:42Speaker 1: began to travel back to the United States, but October's
- 4:45Speaker 1: condition deteriorated too quickly, and by the time his flight
- 4:48Speaker 1: landed in the States, his daughter was already gone. From
- 4:52Speaker 1: the moment Michael met David Hyslop, he had a deep
- 4:55Speaker 1: distrust for the other man. He didn't know David well
- 4:59Speaker 1: and had only been introduced to him once, but he
- 5:01Speaker 1: instantly disliked him. Later, he stated that David had been
- 5:05Speaker 1: part of the reason that he'd recently hired a lawyer
- 5:08Speaker 1: in an attempt to have October removed from the house
- 5:10Speaker 1: where Christy, David, Kendall, and Janetta lived. He didn't want
- 5:15Speaker 1: October to be around David, and he didn't trust David
- 5:17Speaker 1: to care for her. Now, his worst nightmare had come true.
- 5:22Speaker 1: October had died in David's care, and Michael hadn't been
- 5:25Speaker 1: able to stop it. Because it was clear that October
- 5:28Speaker 1: hadn't died of natural causes, hospital staff and law enforcement
- 5:32Speaker 1: were suspicious that she was a victim of violence, and
- 5:35Speaker 1: they requested an autopsy. The results of the autopsy confirmed
- 5:39Speaker 1: severe head trauma, which had caused her brain to swell
- 5:43Speaker 1: and left blood pooling inside her skull. But the wound
- 5:46Speaker 1: to her head wasn't the only thing that had contributed
- 5:49Speaker 1: to her death. October had also suffered from what the
- 5:52Speaker 1: medical examiner called an unusual and catastrophic spinal injury. The
- 5:57Speaker 1: injury seemed to be from somebody forcefully bending her body
- 6:01Speaker 1: over a firm object, causing damage to the spine. October's
- 6:06Speaker 1: body also showed signs of being abused in the past,
- 6:09Speaker 1: with multiple healed injuries that had taken place over several months.
- 6:13Speaker 1: The lead detective working the case was Officer Noah Scott,
- 6:17Speaker 1: who had been at Primary Children's Medical Center sitting beside
- 6:20Speaker 1: October's bed during the last minutes of her life. He
- 6:23Speaker 1: had been there while arrangements were made to donate October's organs,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and he had watched while her life support was turned off.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Officer Scott leaned over and whispered into the little girl's ear,
- 6:34Speaker 1: promising that he would do the best investigation he could.
- 6:38Speaker 1: From the moment that investigators realized October's injuries were suspicious,
- 6:42Speaker 1: Officer Scott focused his attention on one suspect, David Wayne Hyslop,
- 6:47Speaker 1: the man who had been trusted to take care of
- 6:49Speaker 1: October the night she died. In police interviews, David only
- 6:54Speaker 1: increased the suspicion against him. He seemed unable to commit
- 6:57Speaker 1: to one version of events that had taken place that night. Instead,
- 7:02Speaker 1: telling Officer Scott a different story every time new evidence
- 7:05Speaker 1: was discovered. In his original statement, David insisted that he
- 7:09Speaker 1: had no idea how October had gotten her injuries, and
- 7:13Speaker 1: even tried to blame her unresponsive state on food poisoning
- 7:16Speaker 1: from eating bad hot dogs. But police already knew about
- 7:20Speaker 1: the yelling and thumping that Kendall had heard that night,
- 7:23Speaker 1: and they knew that David had tried to discourage Christy
- 7:26Speaker 1: from checking on her daughter by insisting that October was
- 7:29Speaker 1: just having a nightmare. David claimed that he couldn't remember
- 7:32Speaker 1: the cause of the thumping noises that his brother had heard.
- 7:36Speaker 1: He said that he believed that the noises were due
- 7:38Speaker 1: to him either dropping October on the ground or throwing
- 7:42Speaker 1: her there, which made the toddler's head hit the basement's
- 7:45Speaker 1: concrete floor. Eventually, he stuck to one version of events.
- 7:50Speaker 1: In the process of putting October to bed, he'd accidentally
- 7:53Speaker 1: lost grip and dropped her. Immediately after October hit the ground,
- 7:58Speaker 1: David knew that something was wrong. She didn't seem to cry,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and he noticed that her arms and legs appeared to
- 8:04Speaker 1: be spasming. Supposedly believing that October had been knocked unconscious,
- 8:09Speaker 1: David had tucked the toddler into bed and then walked
- 8:11Speaker 1: up the basement stairs to the main living area of
- 8:14Speaker 1: the house. He didn't go back down to check on her,
- 8:17Speaker 1: and despite knowing she had a head injury, he didn't
- 8:20Speaker 1: make any attempts to call an ambulance or take her
- 8:22Speaker 1: to the hospital. Larry LaFountain, who was one of David's
- 8:26Speaker 1: defense attorneys, blamed the Great Falls police for allowing October's
- 8:30Speaker 1: death to occur. He referenced a police visit to the
- 8:33Speaker 1: home only a few months before October died in response
- 8:36Speaker 1: to a call from a concerned doctor who had treated
- 8:39Speaker 1: the toddler for an injury. It turned out that after
- 8:42Speaker 1: April had taken October to the hospital and it was
- 8:45Speaker 1: revealed that she had a broken arm, the doctor had
- 8:48Speaker 1: noticed that she had an older fracture in her other arm.
- 8:52Speaker 1: As a mandatory reporter and suspecting that the little girl
- 8:55Speaker 1: was being abused, the doctor contacted authorities on his own. Eventually,
- 9:00Speaker 1: the police stopped their investigation and referred the case to
- 9:03Speaker 1: Child and Family Services. Rachel Zins was supposedly spending three
- 9:08Speaker 1: hours a week in Christy's home, but she still came
- 9:11Speaker 1: to the conclusion that both of the arm fractures had
- 9:14Speaker 1: been due to accidents. Photos of the condition of the
- 9:17Speaker 1: home make it seem unlikely that any social worker had
- 9:20Speaker 1: spent any time in the house. It turned out that
- 9:23Speaker 1: October and her half-brother when he was there slept in
- 9:26Speaker 1: the basement. That might not seem unusual at first because
- 9:30Speaker 1: lots of people have finished basements in their homes, but
- 9:33Speaker 1: that was not the case here. The basement was completely unfinished,
- 9:37Speaker 1: with a cold concrete floor, exposed framing, exposed wiring, and
- 9:42Speaker 1: it wasn't even clean. There was garbage, tires, cinder blocks,
- 9:46Speaker 1: and sheet metal. The rest of the house wasn't any better.
- 9:50Speaker 1: When authorities started investigating October's death, they took pictures on
- 9:54Speaker 1: that same day that showed maggots in the refrigerator and
- 9:58Speaker 1: dirty diapers on the floor. Either there was never a
- 10:01Speaker 1: social worker in that house or they were the worst
- 10:03Speaker 1: social worker on the planet. On top of the condition
- 10:07Speaker 1: of the home, David had also previously lost custody of
- 10:11Speaker 1: his own children in Oklahoma due to drug charges and
- 10:14Speaker 1: child and family services seemed to either not look into
- 10:17Speaker 1: him or not care about his history. Another defense attorney,
- 10:22Speaker 1: Vince Vanderhagen, tried to blame the other inhabitants of the
- 10:25Speaker 1: house for October's death. He told the jury that, if
- 10:29Speaker 1: David was convicted, the real killer, the real person who
- 10:32Speaker 1: caused these injuries to October Perez, would go free and
- 10:36Speaker 1: would not be held accountable. Vanderhagen acknowledged that it was
- 10:39Speaker 1: impossible for October's fatal injuries to be caused by an accident,
- 10:43Speaker 1: but he argued that October had received the injuries in
- 10:46Speaker 1: a separate incident, which David wasn't present for. To decide
- 10:51Speaker 1: who the real killer had been, Vanderhagen told the jury
- 10:54Speaker 1: that they needed to The defense pointed out that, during
- 11:01Speaker 1: the early police interviews, David's brother Kendall had been the
- 11:05Speaker 1: first person to construct an alibi. Vanderhagen called Kendall a
- 11:09Speaker 1: good liar, someone who had remained calm during his interviews,
- 11:13Speaker 1: and had been able to quickly convince the officers that
- 11:16Speaker 1: he was innocent, preventing him from being interrogated any further.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Vanderhagen told the court, quote, Although Christie had been out
- 11:32Speaker 1: of the house at the time October received her head injury,
- 11:35Speaker 1: Vanderhagen insisted that she couldn't be trusted. He pointed out
- 11:39Speaker 1: that during October's autopsy, the medical examiner had found two
- 11:43Speaker 1: different spinal fractures. One had taken place at the same
- 11:46Speaker 1: time as the fatal head injury, but the other fracture
- 11:49Speaker 1: was in the early stages of healing, around a few
- 11:52Speaker 1: days old. The attorney told the jury that Christy had
- 11:55Speaker 1: never taken October to the doctor for the first spinal fracture,
- 11:59Speaker 1: even though it would have caused the toddler a significant
- 12:02Speaker 1: amount of pain. Christy testified that, over the past few months,
- 12:06Speaker 1: she had noticed strange bruises and injuries on October's body,
- 12:10Speaker 1: which only ever seemed to happen when she was away
- 12:13Speaker 1: from the house. She would ask David how October had
- 12:16Speaker 1: been injured, and he would always say it had been
- 12:18Speaker 1: an accident. According to the defense, Christy was an untrustworthy witness.
- 12:23Speaker 1: The defense said, quote, If you believe and you convict
- 12:26Speaker 1: in this case, based on the statement of Christy Perez,
- 12:29Speaker 1: an innocent person gets convicted and a killer walks. While
- 12:34Speaker 1: pointing the finger at Kendall and Christy, Vanderhagen told the
- 12:37Speaker 1: jury that they needed to remain objective in the case
- 12:40Speaker 1: and try to consider all of the evidence, instead of
- 12:43Speaker 1: acting emotionally. He said, quote, Now, I completely agree that
- 12:46Speaker 1: Christy is not 100% innocent in this case. Even if
- 12:59Speaker 1: everything she said is true, and that's very unlikely, she
- 13:02Speaker 1: still had to be neglectful enough to see bruises on
- 13:05Speaker 1: her daughter multiple times and not question David further about
- 13:08Speaker 1: how she got them. She also clearly didn't get October
- 13:12Speaker 1: medical treatment when it was needed, as she had a
- 13:14Speaker 1: spinal fracture and a broken arm at different times that
- 13:17Speaker 1: had never been treated. The truth is that Christy likely
- 13:21Speaker 1: did know what kind of abuse was going on, because
- 13:23Speaker 1: when April had taken October to the hospital with her
- 13:26Speaker 1: second broken arm, Christy initially didn't want to go. April
- 13:30Speaker 1: had to force her to take the girl to the hospital.
- 13:33Speaker 1: It's likely that Christy knew that October was being abused
- 13:36Speaker 1: and was trying to hide the injuries. In my opinion,
- 13:40Speaker 1: Christie should also be punished for that neglect, but none
- 13:43Speaker 1: of that means that David didn't abuse October. He still
- 13:47Speaker 1: caused a fatal head injury to a two-year-old, something he
- 13:50Speaker 1: admitted to the police. Attorney John Parker, the lead prosecutor,
- 13:55Speaker 1: called the defense's argument something out of a cops and
- 13:58Speaker 1: robbers dime novel from the 30s. Parker said, quote, For
- 14:02Speaker 1: the defense, the killer could be anybody, except for the
- 14:05Speaker 1: person who admitted injuring the child that day. He condemned
- 14:09Speaker 1: the defense's attempts to blame the other household members for
- 14:13Speaker 1: October's death, calling the arguments a distraction. The prosecutor said, quote,
- 14:17Speaker 1: Only one person gave an ongoing series of bogus excuses,
- 14:20Speaker 1: and that was David. The prosecution admitted that Christy had
- 14:32Speaker 1: not done everything she could to ensure the well-being of
- 14:35Speaker 1: her daughter, but insisted that Christy's mistakes as a parent
- 14:38Speaker 1: didn't mean she had been the one to kill October.
- 14:41Speaker 1: In fact, it was impossible for her to have been
- 14:44Speaker 1: the killer. All of the evidence suggested that Christy had
- 14:47Speaker 1: been away from the house in the window of time
- 14:49Speaker 1: when her daughter had been fatally injured. Parker told the court,
- 14:53Speaker 1: Christy is an easy person to throw darts at, but
- 14:56Speaker 1: she wasn't there. Open and shut, she wasn't there. You
- 14:59Speaker 1: can hate her or like her, but none of it
- 15:01Speaker 1: puts her there at the time of the injuries. The
- 15:04Speaker 1: prosecutor also acknowledged that Kendall hadn't been honest with the
- 15:07Speaker 1: police in his first interviews, but denied that the lies
- 15:10Speaker 1: were related to whether or not he was innocent in
- 15:12Speaker 1: the case. He said, I'm asking you to look for
- 15:16Speaker 1: the reason. He lied to protect his brother. He was
- 15:19Speaker 1: in a position of being in possession of facts that
- 15:22Speaker 1: would make him a material witness against his own brother.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Instead of focusing on the people who could have potentially
- 15:29Speaker 1: had the opportunity to harm October, Parker focused on the
- 15:32Speaker 1: indisputable facts in the case. It was undeniable that David
- 15:36Speaker 1: Hyslop had lied during his interviews, and the prosecution argued
- 15:40Speaker 1: that he had deliberately been trying to reveal as little
- 15:43Speaker 1: information as possible to law enforcement. Parker told the court,
- 15:46Speaker 1: Every time he was confronted with new information, his story evolved.
- 15:55Speaker 1: The prosecution addressed David's version of events where he had
- 15:58Speaker 1: accidentally dropped October, causing her to hit her head on
- 16:01Speaker 1: a hard concrete floor. Parker argued that, if an innocent
- 16:05Speaker 1: person accidentally dropped a toddler and believed that the child
- 16:09Speaker 1: was seriously injured or unconscious, their response would never be
- 16:13Speaker 1: to leave the child alone in bed for several hours.
- 16:16Speaker 1: He said, quote, An innocent person in panic mode calls
- 16:20Speaker 1: an ambulance. Accidents happen. People report them. But people hurt
- 16:24Speaker 1: somebody and they cover their own ass. The prosecution also
- 16:28Speaker 1: cast doubt on the possibility that any of October's injuries
- 16:31Speaker 1: could have been accidental, pointing out the multiple spinal fractures,
- 16:35Speaker 1: the bruising on her body, and the bleeding and swelling
- 16:38Speaker 1: in her brain. After the week-long trial, over 60 people
- 16:42Speaker 1: gathered in the courtroom to hear the clerk read the verdict.
- 16:45Speaker 1: David was found guilty of fatally injuring October. The jury
- 16:50Speaker 1: believed that he was the person responsible for October's catastrophic
- 16:53Speaker 1: brain injury, despite David's attorneys arguing that there had been
- 16:57Speaker 1: multiple people on the property who could have injured the toddler.
- 17:01Speaker 1: As soon as the clerks stated that David Hyslop was guilty,
- 17:04Speaker 1: both of October's parents immediately burst into tears, and so
- 17:08Speaker 1: did David himself. He was let out of the courtroom
- 17:11Speaker 1: in handcuffs, still crying. October's father, Michael, described the guilty
- 17:16Speaker 1: verdict as feeling like a weight coming off his chest.
- 17:19Speaker 1: He was glad that David had avoided the death penalty.
- 17:22Speaker 1: In his opinion, execution was still an easy way out.
- 17:25Speaker 1: He wanted David to sit in prison, thinking about what
- 17:28Speaker 1: he had done. He and Christy had barely spoken after
- 17:31Speaker 1: October's death, keeping their family separated while they grieved the
- 17:35Speaker 1: loss of their daughter. But Michael never even considered the
- 17:38Speaker 1: possibility that Christy might have been October's killer. In response
- 17:42Speaker 1: to the defense's claims about Christy, Michael said, Christy didn't
- 17:53Speaker 1: comment on the verdict, but shortly before leaving the courtroom,
- 17:56Speaker 1: she hugged lead prosecutor John Parker. Parker described himself as
- 18:00Speaker 1: being relieved and pleased at the verdict, saying, This brings
- 18:04Speaker 1: justice for a child who didn't have to die, and
- 18:06Speaker 1: now our community can keep working to try and make
- 18:09Speaker 1: sure something like this never happens again. It wasn't until
- 18:13Speaker 1: after the trial that April Hall was interviewed and more
- 18:16Speaker 1: details about the case were revealed. The lack of action
- 18:19Speaker 1: on the part of Child and Family Services has made
- 18:22Speaker 1: people call the agency an accomplice in the case. There
- 18:26Speaker 1: were clear lies on the part of the caseworker and
- 18:28Speaker 1: their lack of action directly led to October's death. Rachel
- 18:32Speaker 1: Zins no longer works for the state of Montana and
- 18:35Speaker 1: works as a social worker at a nursing home. It
- 18:38Speaker 1: also seems clear from April's side of the story that
- 18:41Speaker 1: Christy was more aware of the abuse that was going
- 18:43Speaker 1: on against October and tried to cover it up. Despite
- 18:46Speaker 1: Christy likely also deserving some of the punishment for her
- 18:49Speaker 1: complicity in October's abuse, I don't think that David got
- 18:53Speaker 1: more punishment than he deserved. He clearly caused the violent
- 18:56Speaker 1: death of a two-year-old child and is exactly where he belongs.
- 19:00Speaker 1: The lack of punishment for Christy does not mean David
- 19:03Speaker 1: got too much punishment. Officer Scott remained confident that David
- 19:07Speaker 1: was guilty of the charges against him, and there was
- 19:10Speaker 1: no doubt in his mind that the right person had
- 19:12Speaker 1: been convicted. He said, quote, I'd like to see him
- 19:15Speaker 1: with a hundred-year sentence, before calling David a monster. He added, quote,
- 19:21Speaker 1: He gave October a death sentence when he left her
- 19:23Speaker 1: suffering for three hours sitting in her bed. In June
- 19:27Speaker 1: of 2012, Officer Scott got his wish when David was
- 19:30Speaker 1: sentenced to 100 years in prison. He would never be
- 19:34Speaker 1: able to harm another child. After the sentence was handed down,
- 19:38Speaker 1: Michael Arndt made a statement saying, It's a fit sentence
- 19:41Speaker 1: for that monster. I couldn't have said it better myself.
- 19:45Speaker 1: If you want to watch April Hall's complete interview, there's
- 19:48Speaker 1: a link in the description. Also, Toby House is a
- 19:52Speaker 1: charity that was started in October's name that is a
- 19:54Speaker 1: crisis nursery providing urgent or emergency care for children ages
- 19:59Speaker 1: 0 to 6 and providing a safe place for children
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