Latest / The 3-0 Take / Is EVERYBODY on the IL?

Transcript

Is EVERYBODY on the IL? · The 3-0 Take

• 0:00
  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
• 0:04
  all things Major League Baseball.
• 0:06
  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
• 0:10
  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the three O take
• 0:16
  presented by Sea Geek. This episode 518.
• 0:18
  I'll be your host Kyle Cord. I'm here with my Co host Nate
• 0:21
  Reyes. Nate.
• 0:24
  HIPAA. So Poppy, how you doing?
• 0:26
  What's going on? Just just another Sunday in the
• 0:31
  life, you know what I mean? Another Sunday in the life.
• 0:35
  Look, the reality of it is we got.
• 0:37
  Well, let's address the elephant in the room.
• 0:39
  We didn't get to an episode at the end of last week.
• 0:42
  Yeah. You know, just life.
• 0:46
  Yeah, just life gets in the way. Life gets in the way.
• 0:53
  But we are back. And unfortunately, the reality
• 0:55
  of it is we got some bad news to talk about here.
• 1:01
  I mean some downer stuff. Is anything, is anything going
• 1:05
  right in in Major League Baseball right now with the
• 1:08
  health of these players with, you know, playoff odds are being
• 1:13
  impacted by by some of these teams getting off the slow
• 1:15
  starts with due to due to these injuries and so on and so forth.
• 1:22
  We just, we just, it's going to be a downer episode.
• 1:25
  I hate. Well, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:26
  We're going to be fine. We're going to lose.
• 1:28
  I don't want to. I don't want to lose.
• 1:30
  People like that, but I just. Wanted to let people know if
• 1:33
  you're still with us, buckle up. Is that better?
• 1:39
  There you go. If you haven't dropped his yet,
• 1:43
  we'll. Start with a We'll start with a
• 1:44
  positive update here. Got some good news for the For
• 1:48
  All Star Week in Atlanta. My flight is now booked.
• 1:53
  All right, the rental car is now booked.
• 1:57
  All right, boxes are getting checked.
• 1:59
  And the rental property has been booked.
• 2:02
  Boxes are getting big checked. So we have to figure out your
• 2:08
  flight because I'm trying to, I am trying to get this finalized
• 2:16
  so we can just look forward to getting down there.
• 2:19
  Have a good old time. That's right.
• 2:22
  I'm stoked, I'm real stoked. I love that ballpark, but I was
• 2:27
  also like with people that didn't necessarily want to nerd
• 2:31
  out the same way that I wanted to nerd out.
• 2:34
  So luckily, you being a fellow nerd, it's it's going to help a
• 2:38
  lot going back and just taking it in a little differently, you
• 2:41
  know, not to mention this would be a freaking show, man.
• 2:46
  Stars everywhere. I'm looking forward to it.
• 2:51
  I'm looking forward to it. I have already mapped out some.
• 2:55
  As I mentioned. You already mapped out some
• 2:58
  memorabilia shops I think. I'm going to start looking at
• 3:00
  food. I think that's, I think that's
• 3:02
  the next most important. Let's face it, people.
• 3:05
  People love the food reviews on the blog.
• 3:08
  Oh. They love it.
• 3:10
  I mean, it gives us an excuse to eat some good food.
• 3:12
  It's a right off I, I got to, I got to ask though, if and you,
• 3:19
  you might know this because you, you've been to Home Run Derby.
• 3:21
  What's the deal with like the, the days leading up to the
• 3:25
  festivities or specifically the Derby in the game?
• 3:29
  Because I'm trying to find information about that whole
• 3:32
  like red carpet thing, the media availability where you can,
• 3:35
  where some folks can can get access to players and stuff like
• 3:40
  that. Like I'm trying to find out more
• 3:42
  information about this and I can't find anything.
• 3:44
  I could be wrong. When was when was it in course
• 3:50
  20 that's when they. 22 That's when they.
• 3:55
  Took it out of Atlanta. That would have been.
• 3:57
  Is it 21 or 20? 2021 I think.
• 4:01
  I don't think they were doing it yet in 21.
• 4:05
  Yeah. I don't know why, Because.
• 4:07
  And then after that it was Seattle or no, after that it was
• 4:11
  LA. Then it was Seattle.
• 4:13
  Last year. I feel like LA was the first
• 4:17
  time they they did. I could be wrong.
• 4:21
  No, last year wasn't Seattle. Last year was.
• 4:27
  Oh, your boy's rusty. This is, yeah, this is a tough
• 4:31
  showing. Texas, of course.
• 4:41
  What year is it? Who are you?
• 4:44
  20 so. 20. 2, 22 was Coors. No, 21 was Coors.
• 4:51
  You had it right. You just forgot to mention Texas
• 4:53
  last year. 21 Coors, Then it was LA, then Seattle, then Texas,
• 4:58
  now Atlanta. I feel like it started in Lai
• 5:00
  feel like that's when everything start either LA or or.
• 5:02
  That makes sense. Seattle OK, so it has I.
• 5:05
  Don't remember, to be fair, like Coors is a little weird because
• 5:08
  like you're, you're kind of coming in like there's a lot of
• 5:14
  different ways to get in the ballpark, obviously, like most
• 5:16
  places. But like the majority of parking
• 5:20
  is like behind the field. So you're coming in from like
• 5:24
  behind right field, right center area, a lot of parking over
• 5:28
  there. So that's the way we came in
• 5:31
  both days. And maybe it's just the fact
• 5:34
  that like, hey, we're on the backside of the stadium.
• 5:36
  You're just not really like seeing that kind of setup.
• 5:40
  But I don't know. I feel like we would have
• 5:42
  remembered having that opportunity.
• 5:45
  Yeah, to like, to be fair, I mean, it's hours before where
• 5:49
  these guys are showing up and like their get up and stuff, but
• 5:52
  yeah. I mean, and also too like, I
• 5:54
  want an opportunity to be able to meet some folks, like some
• 5:57
  listeners, some. Viewers like, take a freaking
• 5:59
  mic in some people's faces, you know, just ask some questions.
• 6:02
  Yeah, like, I'm trying to get 'cause like, once the Derby
• 6:05
  starts, once the game starts, like it's going to be tough.
• 6:07
  But like, you know, these things, these festivities are
• 6:10
  all day. Like, I want a chance to meet
• 6:11
  some people. Like, hey, we listen to the
• 6:15
  show, hey we watch a. Show.
• 6:16
  Hey, I just want to link up. Yeah, link.
• 6:18
  Up, I just want to, I just want to link up with some of you
• 6:20
  folks, some of you kind folks. We've done that before and it's
• 6:24
  been, it's been great. It's been.
• 6:25
  Always a hit. It's always a hit.
• 6:27
  So love that opportunity to be able to do that again, but it's.
• 6:30
  Such A, and I've said this already before, not to spend too
• 6:33
  much time in this because I'm sure a lot of people don't care
• 6:35
  because they aren't going. But if you are going if.
• 6:38
  You are going. Let us know.
• 6:41
  Let us know. But I love all the like all the
• 6:42
  shops and the restaurants and all the stuff that's like
• 6:45
  surrounding Truist. Like you can, you can be there
• 6:48
  literally all day. So I don't think it's a problem
• 6:51
  for us to show up super early, like grab lunch and see some red
• 6:56
  carpet situation. A.
• 6:58
  A dream. And then like, you still can go
• 7:01
  kill time if you can't get into the stadium yet, but there's
• 7:04
  still plenty of things to do, so I'm looking forward to it.
• 7:08
  I would love that. Let us talk about no some more
• 7:13
  good news. I completely forgot I I was.
• 7:15
  Just you don't want to save this just it's just starting at a
• 7:18
  peak and then. Again.
• 7:22
  Crash, Burn. I'm not in a good mental place
• 7:26
  with these injuries. You got to feel me on this, We
• 7:29
  got. It no, no, I feel it.
• 7:30
  But like, we got to talk about it 'cause you know, I mean,
• 7:32
  that's what's happening to baseball.
• 7:33
  That's what we agreed to talk about, but OK, fine.
• 7:37
  Do you want to save it for the end?
• 7:38
  I mean no. No, no, it's, I feel like now
• 7:41
  it's it can't be that big. Yeah.
• 7:44
  Until now, yeah. We sort of override joke.
• 7:47
  It's not that funny. Yeah.
• 7:50
  Lawrence Butler. Lawrence Butler hit the
• 7:55
  trombone. Hit the trombone.
• 7:57
  Where are we at? I mean, I'm trying to stay
• 8:02
  positive here. Some Lawrence Butler extension
• 8:04
  news and you're going to. It's like a joke that's really
• 8:06
  not that funny. So I just wanted to pay my.
• 8:09
  Respect to Lawrence Butler. I thought you had something
• 8:11
  else. No side note.
• 8:12
  That's on me. That's on me.
• 8:13
  I wanted to pay my respects to Lawrence Butler.
• 8:15
  I mean, man, just got paid and you're over here just belittling
• 8:20
  it. I'm belittling it.
• 8:21
  Yeah, that was it was unintentional.
• 8:23
  I like this. I like Lawrence Butler.
• 8:25
  I like the move. I like what the A's are doing.
• 8:27
  No. No, don't try to go.
• 8:29
  No, no, no, don't try to get on the A's.
• 8:31
  Don't try to get on the A's train.
• 8:33
  Now I've been on this train for the last month or two.
• 8:37
  Save me the whole I like this move.
• 8:38
  I like the I like what they're doing finance and I like what
• 8:41
  they're doing from a personnel student.
• 8:42
  But I mean, you've been on the train.
• 8:44
  I haven't what you were talking about.
• 8:46
  I How long have I been saying I'm a fan of what the A's are
• 8:50
  doing, Whether it's because they're being forced to or not,
• 8:52
  whatever. I But at the end of the day I
• 8:54
  was saying. Both with this I feel like I'm
• 8:56
  getting called out for no reason.
• 8:57
  Here I thought we were we agreed on all this.
• 9:02
  I I agree. I've been on the same train.
• 9:05
  I guess I'm. Not the conductor, but I'm on
• 9:07
  that train. I guess all right.
• 9:14
  Well, then, we might. Have to go back to receipts
• 9:15
  here. I feel unrightfully attacked.
• 9:19
  You've been, you've been on board with what the A's have
• 9:22
  been doing. Yeah, you are misremembering,
• 9:27
  Sir. Take me back.
• 9:28
  Take me back to the whatever. Just keep going, man.
• 9:38
  You can't even think of anything that they've done.
• 9:40
  Let's go the Brent Brooker. The Brent Brooker.
• 9:43
  Extension. Yeah, yeah, I bet.
• 9:45
  I bet it was a Brent. Brooker extension, we want to go
• 9:47
  back to the episode. I would change my find that
• 9:49
  quote and I'll look that up. As I was saying, yeah, I bet
• 9:52
  I'll read the transcripts. As I was saying, Brent Rooker.
• 9:55
  Yeah. You know, the Brent Rooker
• 9:56
  extension. Big fan.
• 9:58
  Yeah, that's. Where it started, guy?
• 9:59
  Luis Severino, Brent Rooker, now Lawrence Butler and sprinkling
• 10:03
  some move, some some underrated in there as well.
• 10:06
  But Lawrence Butler's the the name that's that's been making
• 10:11
  news recently. seven-year 65 and a half million dollar extension
• 10:15
  for the Sacramento A's that play with the Las Vegas patch on
• 10:23
  their shoulder, whatever, whatever that's about.
• 10:28
  And, and and Lawrence Butler, you like the move.
• 10:32
  I love the athleticism, I love the length, I love the
• 10:36
  commitment. I love that they are making him
• 10:38
  a part of whatever this future is going to be, whatever this
• 10:44
  future is going to look like. Let's be honest, I don't think
• 10:46
  any of us really fully can grasp or, or predict accurately at
• 10:52
  least what this A's future beholds.
• 10:56
  It's going to be weird. Like I think that's, that's the,
• 10:59
  that's the ultimate take away here is we just need to come to
• 11:02
  grips with the fact that this A's chapter and possibly beyond
• 11:05
  for for at least a few years. It's going to be weird.
• 11:08
  It's going to be weird. Yeah, it's, I mean, that's fair,
• 11:12
  but Lawrence. Butler's going to be a part of
• 11:14
  it, that we know. And I like that.
• 11:16
  I, I agree. I like the athleticism.
• 11:18
  I like the way he plays. I was looking through this
• 11:22
  article that Anthony Franco wrote and after the All Star
• 11:32
  break last year slashed 300-340-5553.
• 11:39
  He ranked 10th in WRC plus the other nine names over him, Judge
• 11:45
  Vladdy, Bobby Witt, Jordan Soto, Shohei Lindor, Jackson Merrill
• 11:53
  and Brent Rooker. That's it.
• 11:56
  So outside of that, I mean really good second-half.
• 12:00
  Arguably the performance that earned him this extension trying
• 12:09
  to pull the numbers up from last year.
• 12:10
  Last year looked pretty good. Man told it up to three war, you
• 12:16
  know, 24 double S22 home runs, which is like I kind of
• 12:20
  surprising pop based on like just his build and like play
• 12:24
  style. You know, you feel like he could
• 12:27
  potentially run into even more changing ballparks, especially
• 12:31
  playing in Sacramento, which I don't know if we've like
• 12:34
  officially looked up the distances or anything, but like
• 12:38
  it. They can't be bigger than the
• 12:41
  Oakland Coliseum 131 OPS plus last year that 18 swipes so.
• 12:50
  Pump the brakes. We're talking about his build as
• 12:51
  if he's some bean pole. He he's sick.
• 12:55
  He's listed at 62220. No, there's no way really.
• 13:01
  What he's listed at, and I get it, the whole like listing
• 13:03
  thing, but like I was thinking, oh, maybe he maybe, maybe he
• 13:07
  compares like a sedan Rafaela. Sedan Rafaela is listed at
• 13:10
  58150. Two, I didn't have them that
• 13:13
  short, but I definitely had them lighter than 220.
• 13:16
  I don't know what it is, I just. I'm with you because I'm like,
• 13:22
  I'm like 2, last I checked, I'm like 220.
• 13:26
  And I think Lawrence Butler, I mean, granny, he's got like
• 13:28
  packing a lot more muscle. I think he yeah, I think he
• 13:30
  wears it a little better than us, huh A.
• 13:32
  Little better than me, I know that much.
• 13:34
  Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think, I think that's
• 13:37
  AI think that that build as representative of of the the pop
• 13:42
  and and vice versa. That's fair.
• 13:43
  I mean, you can definitely run into 20 no problem there.
• 13:46
  But again, like I, I, I do expect that number to kind of
• 13:49
  tick up changing ballparks this year and and moving forward.
• 13:52
  But yeah, man, I mean, not this is this is something to wear.
• 13:57
  Like you can strike gold. We've seen it a few different
• 14:02
  Times Now. Is Lawrence Butler going to be a
• 14:04
  Ronald lacuna? Don't know, but either way, if
• 14:10
  he doesn't, if he if this was the top end of performance
• 14:16
  you're going to get from him, you know 130 plus OPS plus and
• 14:19
  then you know, 20 home run 60 to 80 RBIs, 15 to 30 stolen bases a
• 14:27
  year. Like I'll take that.
• 14:30
  I'll absolutely take that. This is surprising in a good
• 14:38
  way. Like I, I don't know what it is
• 14:40
  like it you, you kind of feel checked out on the A's sometimes
• 14:43
  obvious for obvious reasons, but like you speak for yourself.
• 14:46
  You almost see like one of these moves and you don't expect like
• 14:50
  a snowball of moves to follow it.
• 14:52
  You know, you don't see that they like not just the A's, but
• 14:56
  there's plenty of small market teams that they make one move
• 14:59
  and you're like, awesome, keep going and they don't.
• 15:03
  So it's nice. It's refreshing to see them just
• 15:06
  stacking good moves on top of each other.
• 15:10
  Yeah, but again, it's it's they're being forced to, but I'm
• 15:15
  not going to, you know, like. No, I disagree.
• 15:18
  I think this year they're being forced to, but like to commit to
• 15:22
  something this term. You know what I'm saying?
• 15:24
  Like it's, it's a longer term commitment that I, I, I think
• 15:28
  it's a little bit different than just going and like throwing
• 15:31
  money at a free agent this year, you know, and, and I'm sure yes,
• 15:36
  it does help their numbers this year because like you're, you're
• 15:39
  kind of buying out pre ARB. You're buying out, you know,
• 15:42
  some of those things you're getting him.
• 15:44
  I think with arbitration years, he get like he just stole two
• 15:49
  years of his free agency. Was he 24 something like that
• 15:54
  2324. So you had a guy that's, you
• 15:58
  know, you're, you're probably going to get the best out of
• 16:00
  him. He was born in 2000.
• 16:03
  That's insane what is happening. That's insane.
• 16:08
  But anyway, I thought we were going to try to stay positive
• 16:12
  today. We can't even say positive on on
• 16:16
  the. Positive note.
• 16:17
  Positive note I mean. He's born.
• 16:19
  He's born in on this side of the turn of the century.
• 16:23
  I mean, how is that not depressing?
• 16:25
  Look tough. Look, I saw something the other
• 16:27
  day where it was like something ridiculous, like it was like
• 16:32
  1980 to now is the same gap between like 1930.
• 16:39
  No, no, no. Get these get these fake
• 16:43
  statistics out of my face. Anyway, yeah, good on the A's,
• 16:49
  good on, good on Lawrence Butler.
• 16:50
  I, I keep, just keep going, keep going.
• 16:54
  You have this, you have this core that's being built up.
• 16:57
  I, I like that there's names and there's going to be recognizable
• 17:00
  names year after year that if there is a young fan in Vegas
• 17:05
  that can start watching them now and kind of buy into this team
• 17:08
  with the expectation of them coming to their city.
• 17:11
  Like you can start to get a little bit of a fandom going
• 17:14
  when there's not so much turnover, so.
• 17:17
  Here's the question that I don't think we're asking yet.
• 17:20
  What if we've already, we've already addressed the question,
• 17:23
  what if the A's are like actually not bad this year?
• 17:26
  Because I could very much I could, I could very easily see
• 17:28
  that being the case. We've already addressed that.
• 17:30
  I think that's a very real possibility that they could at
• 17:34
  the very least very most, depending on which way you look
• 17:37
  at it, flirt with a wild card spot.
• 17:40
  I I I believe that. That's super, yeah.
• 17:43
  I'm just telling you, American League's wide open this year.
• 17:45
  We know this, especially with what we're about to get into,
• 17:50
  but the question we're not asking is like, what if this
• 17:53
  Sacramento slash Vegas future turns out to be like a
• 17:57
  resounding success? I know.
• 17:59
  Because I don't think we can just, I, I think we're so down
• 18:04
  on the A's for the way they handled leaving Oakland, which,
• 18:08
  and just can't blame us. Yeah, like, right.
• 18:13
  I I and I understand that and I think other people understand
• 18:16
  that too. But what I'm saying is we're
• 18:19
  just assuming that it's going to fall flat, that we're just
• 18:22
  assuming that they're going to trip over themselves with this
• 18:24
  move. But like, what if it ends up?
• 18:26
  Yeah, I get what you're saying. I don't.
• 18:28
  Know something all? Of these all of these things
• 18:30
  start to like kind of build up on the fact that like he could
• 18:32
  sell the team too and like you're you're starting to add
• 18:35
  value and again, like if you start to build up some of these
• 18:39
  the roster just getting dubs, you know what I mean?
• 18:43
  Like bringing back the green Kelly jerseys, like you have
• 18:46
  small things that are just like you're just doing good stuff
• 18:50
  after good stuff after good stuff.
• 18:51
  That makes that franchise more attractive.
• 18:53
  That was the gold unit, right? Gold Unit.
• 18:55
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 18:57
  So like you're just doing all these things, just they're
• 19:00
  stacking up wins, you know what I mean?
• 19:01
  Like you're stacking up wins now winning the AL wild card spot
• 19:06
  is. I'm just saying.
• 19:11
  I think you look at them like you have to look at them and say
• 19:14
  can you compete with the Orioles, Blue Jays, Tigers,
• 19:22
  Royals? Yeah, I'm going to go ahead.
• 19:24
  And hang around with those maybe?
• 19:28
  Who's the first team? Who's the first team?
• 19:30
  You said Orioles. Probably not.
• 19:32
  Could I see the A's messing around outperforming the Jays?
• 19:37
  Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 19:38
  Royals The. Central's going to run it back.
• 19:45
  In a way, I mean, you're going to need a, you're going to need
• 19:47
  a, a sort of an encore of what you did last year for the Royals
• 19:51
  and and continue to prove that the movement there isn't a
• 19:54
  fluke. And I don't, I have no reason to
• 19:56
  believe that it is same for the tigers.
• 19:58
  I I think the tigers are. Are you?
• 20:00
  Saying you're putting in the same company, though, you can
• 20:02
  put the A's in that company. I yeah, I said flirt with.
• 20:05
  I didn't say that they would secure a spot like they would be
• 20:09
  in the we'll be talking. I I'm not going to guarantee it.
• 20:14
  All I'm saying is I could see us talking about the A's in
• 20:18
  September. You got to also keep it in the
• 20:20
  division too. And you got to you got to talk
• 20:22
  about whichever however we feel and we're not trying to give up
• 20:27
  give a hot takes predictions here, But like how you feel
• 20:31
  about the Astros and the Mariners.
• 20:33
  Like as as wide open as the AL is, I think there's a lot of
• 20:39
  it's not as top heavy as the NL. Get out of here.
• 20:44
  Think about the American League. Think about the American League
• 20:47
  West. If the Rangers don't don't live
• 20:53
  up to their expectations, if what we think is true about the
• 20:56
  Astros ends up being true and their their window has
• 20:59
  essentially closed. If the Mariners continue to not
• 21:03
  being able to hit the broadside of a barn, the Angels are the
• 21:06
  joke of the American League West.
• 21:08
  Where does that leave the A's? I ask you that, my friend, Where
• 21:12
  does that leave the A's? I'll take the A's over the
• 21:14
  Angels. I like, I like what's going on
• 21:19
  there. But like, let's not pretend that
• 21:21
  they have the depth to to hang around with those other three
• 21:24
  teams. I'm just saying it sometimes you
• 21:27
  don't need depth. Sometimes you just need a little
• 21:29
  bit of little bit of possess a little bit of excitement, a
• 21:32
  little bit of excitement. That's all I'm saying I need.
• 21:35
  A lack of depth. Let's get into all these.
• 21:37
  Yeah, let's talk some injuries and we'll start with your your
• 21:41
  beloved Yankees. Garrett Cole, Giancarlo Stanton
• 21:46
  and Luis Heel to name a few. I think I saw.
• 21:49
  Was DJ Lemahieu also going to be missing a little bit of time?
• 21:52
  Who knows? I think he's a bit, probably
• 21:56
  going to release him soon. Yeah, what a fall off that was.
• 22:00
  No, those three names, among others set to miss time, slash
• 22:05
  miss the start of the season. So possibly for Stan, if he ends
• 22:12
  up getting the surgeries, he's out for the year, what we're
• 22:15
  talking. So I mean, I've seen quotes
• 22:18
  flying around Yankees camp saying that they're a better
• 22:21
  team this year, even without Soto and potentially without
• 22:24
  Stanton. So I'm not sure where that math
• 22:27
  is mathing. So I would like you, I would
• 22:29
  like you to explain what the what the outlook of this team
• 22:32
  looks like without Cole Stanton and their American League Rookie
• 22:38
  of the Year winner. I'm going to rank them as far as
• 22:42
  worry goes. I am least worried about
• 22:47
  Stanton. Next got me a little worried.
• 22:53
  More worried would be heal. Then most worried would probably
• 23:02
  be Garrett Cole. OK.
• 23:07
  Stan, I, I think this is, I'm not going to say planned because
• 23:15
  it's probably not the right word for it, but the Yankees just
• 23:19
  don't put a ton of stock into the beginning of the year and
• 23:22
  it's a strategy that either really bites them or really kind
• 23:26
  of pays off sometimes. I they like to be able to have
• 23:31
  the, the DH flexibility early in the year with cold weather
• 23:35
  games. They love to be able to rotate,
• 23:37
  You know, they're big guys into ADH spot and if you can have,
• 23:41
  you can get Judge or Goldie 1/2 day off every, you know, every
• 23:46
  other game or twice a week, three times a week.
• 23:49
  Like you have the ability to do that without a Stanton.
• 23:53
  We've seen what Stanton has been year after year after year where
• 23:58
  you get like a, you'll typically get a cold start, you'll get an
• 24:02
  IL stint, you'll get a 2 or maybe even three more IL stints
• 24:06
  throughout the year. So it's like, why don't we just
• 24:08
  front load all of that and let's just say come back in June when
• 24:12
  the weather's hot, you have plenty of time to make sure your
• 24:14
  body's in good shape. He's talked about his elbows
• 24:17
  being an issue in the past. So like, I'm not overly
• 24:19
  concerned with his health necessarily or I'm not concerned
• 24:24
  with his ability to play through whatever this elbow thing is,
• 24:28
  right, moving on the heel. Wait, hold on, hold on.
• 24:33
  Let's not just move so quickly past the same thing.
• 24:36
  Tennis elbow. Is that correct?
• 24:37
  Double tennis elbow? Yeah.
• 24:40
  I got a little fun fact here for you.
• 24:42
  Did you know I had tennis elbow in high school?
• 24:44
  What? Was that like?
• 24:46
  You know what it was from? You know what my tennis elbow in
• 24:53
  high school was? From what?
• 24:55
  Was it from excessive? Wii bowling.
• 25:00
  Really. Yes, that's a real thing.
• 25:03
  It's a percent. That's what we have found out,
• 25:05
  apparently from the from these reports.
• 25:07
  He's an ambidextrous wee bowler, he said.
• 25:10
  You know what? I'm out of Commission with my
• 25:13
  right. I guess I got to go.
• 25:14
  That's right, that's right. I still.
• 25:16
  Still couldn't reach that perfect game.
• 25:19
  Yeah, I wonder. I'd love to see the Wii scores.
• 25:22
  I, however, have bowled. I've bowled 2 perfect games in
• 25:25
  Wii, but we're not here to talk about my accomplishments.
• 25:28
  Without here to pull up the the trophies off the shelf, you
• 25:31
  know, yeah, man, I mean, I, I think like I said, I it's it's
• 25:37
  more just managing what he is now.
• 25:39
  Let's just maximize what he's able to bring and you know this
• 25:45
  this comment right here brings up a perfect argument is that
• 25:49
  like I think there's a lot of question marks to to Jason and
• 25:54
  being isn't left like he hasn't looked good defensively.
• 25:57
  Doesn't look like he's progressing so much.
• 25:59
  So like does he start to become more of ADH conversation during
• 26:03
  this chapter? Like there's there's a lot of
• 26:07
  question marks. I.
• 26:09
  We're already talking about moving The Martian to DH.
• 26:14
  It's it's strange that like center field set really like was
• 26:19
  seemingly like a no brainer and now seeing him in left, it's
• 26:23
  like it looks it looks bad. It looks really, really bad.
• 26:26
  So I don't know, man, like there's there's a lot that I'm
• 26:32
  excited about with the youth, but man, this this is odd to not
• 26:39
  have left field figured out that all that he looks lost, but any
• 26:44
  who's healing. Cole heal and Cole.
• 26:47
  Heal, heal makes me nervous because like it's very common
• 26:52
  for guys that have had TJ or shoulder issues to start having
• 26:56
  lat issues. And we didn't have a lat issue.
• 26:59
  Like it's, it's like a oblique for a hitter.
• 27:02
  Like it just seems to last longer and like it's a sneaky
• 27:05
  thing where you can't really use a necessary part of your body.
• 27:09
  So that's what has me super nervous about him because that
• 27:13
  can leak into other injuries and potentially start incorporating
• 27:17
  the elbow or the shoulder injuries back into the
• 27:20
  conversation when we thought he was passed it.
• 27:24
  Not to mention, like if you are using Heal, who had great
• 27:28
  numbers last year as a three, four guy in your rotation, like
• 27:32
  that had real depth. Now that depth has been
• 27:34
  decimated with now getting into the conversation of Garrett
• 27:38
  Cole. Like that to me makes me super
• 27:42
  nervous man because we already dealt with this last year.
• 27:45
  I saw a tweet the other day that said Yankees to Marcus Stroman
• 27:49
  you might be a reliever for us and then like 2 weeks later you
• 27:54
  are opening day starter. Yeah, man, it's it's it's a
• 28:01
  little nervy, but like I said, the Yankees don't seem to put a
• 28:06
  ton of stock in the beginning of the year.
• 28:09
  I think they're wanting to kind of see how these young guys
• 28:13
  play. Think there's a lot of
• 28:14
  opportunities and, and like there's a lot of names that can
• 28:17
  kind of just step in and steal a spot.
• 28:21
  And they're also very notorious for when these rosters start
• 28:25
  getting trimmed. And when you look around the
• 28:28
  league, that guys, they got big league invites to places get
• 28:30
  cut, get released. They are notorious for signing
• 28:35
  someone on and having them start the year for a month or two to
• 28:39
  kind of fill in the gap with these inevitable injuries that
• 28:42
  they face at the beginning of the year every year.
• 28:44
  So look out for some of these names that are around different
• 28:47
  leagues or excuse me, around different teams across the
• 28:50
  league that you're like, you know what?
• 28:51
  There's probably not an opportunity for them to play.
• 28:54
  I won't be surprised if they go get it, a third baseman or a
• 28:58
  left fielder, maybe to even another arm or bullpen arm that
• 29:01
  like is going to come in and see some serious time.
• 29:05
  And they'll probably ride them like a mule for April and May
• 29:08
  and just like wear them out until this roster gets fully
• 29:12
  healthy. Rinse, repeat every year in a
• 29:15
  different scenario. But it's tough to see 2 super
• 29:19
  exciting arms in a rotation go down in this conversation.
• 29:26
  Somebody that will not be going down, fortunately for his sake
• 29:30
  and the sake of his team. Jerks and pro far.
• 29:32
  It's not really an injury up. Well, it is an injury update
• 29:34
  'cause we saw that play. Brother, I was live and I texted
• 29:37
  you right away. I was like, that sucked.
• 29:40
  He might have broken his wrist. Yeah, not a good not a good look
• 29:44
  for pro far in the Braves. But initial X-rays came back
• 29:47
  negative. I think he went through some
• 29:50
  additional testing today. Turns out that it was just a
• 29:53
  bone bruise. So.
• 29:55
  Good came up rough, man. He came up not well, like.
• 29:59
  When the glove comes off, when you're just laying there in a
• 30:03
  spring training game, it's like, oh boy, how, how many weeks
• 30:07
  slash months are we going to be missing this guy?
• 30:10
  Like you just don't. I had one like I there's times
• 30:14
  where you watch a game and like you sometimes have just like a
• 30:17
  on time perfect reaction. This second he laid out and dove
• 30:22
  forward. And if for those unfamiliar and
• 30:24
  haven't seen it yet, it's like a one of those tweener lining
• 30:27
  drive line drives going towards the left fielder, left fielders
• 30:31
  coming in dives. And the second you see the glove
• 30:35
  fold back and that arm just disappear and go behind, it's
• 30:38
  immediate. Uh oh.
• 30:40
  It's immediate like, Oh no. And then he came up and it was
• 30:43
  like it looked, I thought he broke it like the way he's
• 30:48
  holding his arm. So it's good to hear that it
• 30:51
  wasn't awful. It's still something they're
• 30:55
  probably going to have to kind of ease into over the next few
• 30:58
  days or weeks, but I'm I'm just excited for him to be there.
• 31:02
  I'm excited for that line up to be like healthy and get it going
• 31:05
  again. But they're not going to be
• 31:08
  fully healthy. Well, wait, did I include in
• 31:12
  that update that said he the expectation is that he'll be
• 31:15
  ready for opening day? Yeah, but I was just trying to
• 31:17
  tee up a transition for you into another name.
• 31:21
  So it's all you have another name in mind.
• 31:24
  Sean Murphy, maybe? Oh, true, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:27
  Well, I had him at the end of my list.
• 31:29
  But, you know, it makes sense to pair them considering they play
• 31:32
  for the same team. That's an oversight by me.
• 31:34
  I'm usually on top of that. My apologies.
• 31:36
  Sean Murphy. Great point.
• 31:38
  Great point by the kid. Sean Murphy will miss the start
• 31:42
  of the season. A little bit older news because
• 31:44
  we missed last last Wednesday slash Thursday recording, but
• 31:48
  just putting a bow on that news. Is going to miss the start of
• 31:52
  the season with a rib injury. Expected to miss four to six
• 31:56
  weeks with a cracked rib. That's tough dude, just get
• 32:00
  taking a freaking fastball off the ribs.
• 32:05
  Man, what? Just a literal tough blow.
• 32:11
  You know, you, you go down, you go, Whether you're in Florida,
• 32:15
  whether you're in Arizona, you're just trying to soak up
• 32:17
  some sun. You're trying to get the shake
• 32:19
  the rust off a little bit, get some swings and get some throws
• 32:22
  in. Yeah.
• 32:24
  And you're just get, I mean, not just Sean Murphy, everybody,
• 32:27
  man, you, you, you're just having to deal with these
• 32:30
  injuries right off the bat. And it's like that's that cannot
• 32:35
  be fun. That cannot be.
• 32:37
  Fun. I'm going to ask a weird
• 32:38
  question here and ask to like, not to like bring this up in the
• 32:43
  middle of the injuries, but like.
• 32:47
  Do you like strawberry ice? Cream, I wasn't going to go that
• 32:50
  crazy. I was just going to say that
• 32:51
  like, do you think we play too many spring training games?
• 32:58
  Is that a weird question? Because like.
• 32:59
  I'm in no position. I mean, I'm in, no?
• 33:01
  Training camp for football, yeah.
• 33:04
  When you look at that, like there's days of guys not even
• 33:09
  put on pads, just kind of walking through, they're going
• 33:13
  through. And I know it's like it's a
• 33:14
  whole different thing because they're going through a playbook
• 33:16
  and they're learning plays and yeah, players being at it.
• 33:19
  But like we, I, we see workouts the first like week or two when
• 33:26
  pitchers and catchers report, even though everyone's there,
• 33:29
  you see like guys in shorts, they're taking ground balls,
• 33:32
  they're taking fly balls, they're doing drills.
• 33:34
  And then all of a sudden you don't see any more of those
• 33:36
  drills. You just see games and you're
• 33:42
  like, you wonder if there's like, there's not enough time
• 33:46
  being like doing that. And I know that it may not
• 33:49
  always like show up on our feet or like be televised, sure.
• 33:52
  But it just makes me think that like, you know what, we maybe we
• 33:57
  just got to relax and like going into playing games every day.
• 34:01
  Yeah. Yeah, a lot of guys to get
• 34:04
  through and it's very important for some guys that are trying to
• 34:07
  make a roster. It's very important for those
• 34:09
  guys, but not for these names that we're talking about today.
• 34:12
  Like some of these things are like I get like shaking rust off
• 34:15
  and I get understanding that like you got to get regular
• 34:19
  season ready. I I don't know, it's I'm sure
• 34:24
  it's a tough balance that every manager has to deal with, but
• 34:28
  it's like, man, these are you said it like odd altering type
• 34:34
  names going down when you're talking.
• 34:36
  About. Alternate teams that are like
• 34:38
  favored in in wanting to do damage this year, losing huge
• 34:44
  names. And I know it's inevitable.
• 34:46
  It's sports, it happens. But like, I'm curious if we're
• 34:49
  going to see like spring training being managed a little
• 34:53
  bit differently going forward. Yeah, I mean, again, like I said
• 34:58
  at the top, I'm I'm in no position to answer the question
• 35:00
  on like do we play too many spring training games?
• 35:02
  But from my point of view, if if the main focus there beyond, you
• 35:08
  know, just getting familiar with the guys that are around you
• 35:11
  like it from a from a personal point of view as a player, I
• 35:15
  would have to imagine that getting season ready is one of,
• 35:20
  if not the most, the the highest priority.
• 35:22
  Sure. You have to think that with.
• 35:27
  I mean, I just think. Between the money, the
• 35:29
  technology and the facilities, you can do this in a different
• 35:32
  way They're. Looking at I.
• 35:34
  Don't know they're looking at taking an NFL pre season game
• 35:37
  away. No, I hear, No look, I hear you.
• 35:40
  But like. I'm going the other direction.
• 35:42
  It's hard to simulate like even with the technology, even with
• 35:45
  those screens that you know that it's like the computer screens
• 35:48
  where or like the pitching machine.
• 35:50
  You know what I'm talking about where you get in the lane, you
• 35:52
  got the Nets and and then they simulate a reliever or starter
• 35:57
  on the screen and it shoots out the whole.
• 36:00
  It's like that that can only simulate so much.
• 36:03
  I I at least I believe maybe other people feel differently,
• 36:06
  but no, I think if the focus is to get game to get season ready,
• 36:12
  you have to think that like a week or two of games and then
• 36:15
  utilizing like the just maybe a controversial take, but maybe
• 36:20
  just utilize continuing to carry that momentum into the first
• 36:24
  like week or two into the season.
• 36:26
  Continue to because you're, I don't think you're going to
• 36:28
  fully get the rust off until you're like well into the
• 36:31
  season. So it's like.
• 36:32
  I don't think these guys, yeah, there's guys that don't even
• 36:35
  lock in until middle end of May. That's what I'm saying.
• 36:38
  So like, what's what's an added week or two of spring training
• 36:42
  games going to really do other than run the risk of of silly
• 36:46
  injuries? Right.
• 36:47
  Yeah, that's I I just, I don't know.
• 36:49
  That's just an idea. I don't know, I, I feel like
• 36:53
  it's, it's hard to get the best of both worlds without this
• 36:56
  being like, what's the reward versus risk?
• 36:58
  That's all a lot of risk, but I guess that's the game.
• 37:06
  That's the game. Them's the rules.
• 37:08
  George Kirby of the aforementioned Seattle Mariners
• 37:13
  and their rotation that become so highly touted and for good
• 37:17
  reason, are losing one of their top names.
• 37:22
  One of their top arms. George Kirby will be shut down
• 37:26
  with shoulder inflammation and will likely begin the season on
• 37:29
  the IL. Yet another name in this
• 37:31
  conversation that we're talking about who will be missing some
• 37:34
  time. This one, obviously, you know,
• 37:37
  tough blow for the Mariners, but doesn't sound like it's going to
• 37:39
  be. Yeah.
• 37:42
  A massive blow. Like, I mean, they're going to.
• 37:46
  The reality is they're still going to need to figure out ways
• 37:48
  to hit. They're still going to have to
• 37:49
  figure out ways to score runs. I was going to say.
• 37:52
  Missing a couple starts from George Kirby, if that's what it
• 37:54
  ultimately ends up being, that's not going to I mean, that's not
• 37:58
  going to alter your your season plans that that much.
• 38:03
  But if it lingers, if this proves to be something that
• 38:06
  carries on beyond maybe just a couple starts?
• 38:11
  Could be tough. That's, I mean that that's a
• 38:13
  tough, that's, that's a tough break for a team that's already
• 38:17
  fighting for their relevancy lives.
• 38:23
  If you will could be tough. It's it's like, you know,
• 38:28
  there's if that if that roster had one place to get hit, you
• 38:33
  know, like that's somewhere where they're deep and they have
• 38:38
  the ability to bounce back. I don't know.
• 38:44
  I again, I don't want to get into prediction or anything.
• 38:47
  I just I feel like everything has to go perfectly for the
• 38:50
  Mariners to at this current state, the way there was this
• 38:54
  roster is construction. I feel like everything has to be
• 38:57
  going perfectly in order for them to do what they want to do
• 39:00
  and it's just I can't I'm struggling to get there.
• 39:03
  So if you take a big name out of the mix like Kirby and and you
• 39:07
  say you know, you're, you're not getting him at full strength,
• 39:10
  like that's that's a big deal. You don't even have to hit that
• 39:13
  great. By the way, you don't even have
• 39:15
  to be like a top ten team. Like it's just like a league
• 39:17
  average. Like just don't be 27th or 28th,
• 39:20
  whatever they are in every category.
• 39:26
  Next on our list here Grayson Rodriguez set to miss some time.
• 39:30
  He will start the season on the IL due to some discomfort in his
• 39:33
  elbow slash triceps. Area I'm I'm out on this bro.
• 39:38
  I'm like I'm losing. I'm losing interest in the hype.
• 39:43
  I don't know about you. In Grayson or the.
• 39:47
  Orias Grayson Like I'm losing interest in in how much hype is
• 39:52
  around this guy. How many starts did he make last
• 39:55
  year? If I was to guess.
• 39:59
  He missed. He missed time.
• 40:00
  I'm. Going to say he made.
• 40:03
  I would know. I had him in fantasy.
• 40:05
  I'm going to say he made nineteen starts.
• 40:10
  Wow, 20 starts. Well done.
• 40:15
  Well done. That's like good enough, man.
• 40:16
  Like, I'm sorry, again, another roster construction that has
• 40:20
  question marks specifically in this area that they can't afford
• 40:25
  this to happen. And this guy's supposed to be
• 40:28
  their freaking ace moving forward.
• 40:29
  Yeah. But I mean, what we've been told
• 40:31
  out of Baltimore is like, this is our guy.
• 40:33
  This, you know, this is our, this is our Stephen Strasburg.
• 40:36
  And it's just, it's not getting there.
• 40:40
  I get there. It kind of reminds me of a
• 40:43
  little bit Where's the socks up and get that same arts arm slot.
• 40:47
  A lot of people wear socks up. I don't know if that makes them
• 40:49
  Steven Strasburg have people. Been similar build.
• 40:51
  People have been saying that. You don't see comps, I see
• 40:54
  comps. Well, not in terms of the buzz.
• 40:57
  I don't, I don't no, absolutely not the same buzz, but it's like
• 41:04
  when are you, what are you going to when are these names going to
• 41:07
  like start showing up, showing out and.
• 41:10
  Delivering Friend Friend of the pod Rocco, Part of Ryan Ripken's
• 41:16
  crew. Another friend of the pod he had
• 41:19
  a he put out a great tweet the other day.
• 41:20
  He said Boston traded for Garrett Crochet.
• 41:23
  The Yankees side Max Freed both getting better from a starting
• 41:26
  pitching perspective while the O sat back watch Kurt Corbin Burns
• 41:31
  walk and did nothing to upgrade. If his team is serious about
• 41:34
  contending, go get a ace yesterday.
• 41:38
  Where? Who?
• 41:41
  I mean, it's a good, it's a good point though, and it it speaks
• 41:43
  to what we've been saying about this team for a some time now.
• 41:46
  It's like, make make a splash. Not a Tyler O'Neill type, not a
• 41:52
  a Corbin Burns where you're just going to, you're going to bring
• 41:55
  him in just to let him walk out the door.
• 41:57
  Like like I could see Gary Sanchez.
• 41:59
  Getting 300 ABS with his team this year and that's not OK.
• 42:05
  Like do something it's it's it's too late now, unless you for
• 42:11
  some reason were crazy enough to pull.
• 42:15
  Well, not it wouldn't be crazy because you have the depth you
• 42:18
  like you have to pull to pull from.
• 42:20
  But if you went out and got a Dylan sees, then go for it.
• 42:23
  But if you don't do that, then otherwise it's too late.
• 42:26
  So we'll have to we'll have to punt till next year if nothing
• 42:29
  pans out for this team the way it did last year.
• 42:32
  But like you, you had to think that this was a possibility.
• 42:38
  You you could not put all your eggs your your overpriced eggs
• 42:42
  in the Grayson Rodriguez basket. Not a big egg guy, by the way.
• 42:48
  I mean, I love. Eggs.
• 42:49
  I'm not really like feeling you're.
• 42:51
  Not feeling the effects of it. No, not too much.
• 42:54
  I'm a big egg guy like I'll have.
• 42:56
  I don't know if this is crazy. There's a little side note here.
• 42:58
  I is this crazy? Stink.
• 43:01
  I. Just smelly food.
• 43:03
  No, if you just have scrambled eggs, they're fine.
• 43:06
  They they taste and smell fine. It's when you get into like I
• 43:12
  think they deviled eggs. It's when you get.
• 43:16
  Oddly enough, that's when I'm in deviled eggs.
• 43:18
  That's where I'm out. That's where you lost me because
• 43:20
  I'm I'm out on deviled eggs. Chop up some jalapenos, put that
• 43:23
  in there. No, I don't want what is it?
• 43:25
  Mayonnaise on a deviled egg? Is that what's on there?
• 43:28
  What's the? What's I mean it's it's Mayo and
• 43:30
  mustard are like in the mix I think and then you add it.
• 43:33
  Back to that, I'm out. No, but my point.
• 43:36
  Like an egg salad sandwich? No.
• 43:38
  No, when I make scrambled eggs, when I make scrambled eggs, is
• 43:45
  it crazy that I have like I could I could have 4 like is
• 43:48
  that is that an appropriate amount to have in a sitting
• 43:51
  single sitting? OK, just want to make sure
• 43:53
  because I've never. Asked anybody.
• 43:54
  A little aggressive, but it's a little strong.
• 43:59
  There's worse things to be aggressive in, you know what I
• 44:02
  mean? Yeah, no, I'm with you.
• 44:04
  It is a little strong, especially in this economy.
• 44:06
  But you know, as as they say, it's like. $20 worth of eggs.
• 44:09
  You're just hope it was good. Hope it was good, Kyle, But
• 44:15
  yeah, you can't put all your eggs in in the basket of Grace
• 44:18
  Rodriguez because he hasn't shown you that he can.
• 44:22
  Who is the name? I was literally just thinking of
• 44:27
  who was a pitcher. We were just talking about who
• 44:30
  is sort of a horse that can. Oh, I was thinking.
• 44:32
  I was thinking of Garrett Cole. He had.
• 44:34
  And I'm not saying Grayson Rodriguez has to be Garrett Cole
• 44:36
  just yet, but like Garrett Cole's a guy that you could go
• 44:40
  into a season thinking like, OK, he's going to post.
• 44:43
  He's going to make however many stars.
• 44:45
  If he's healthy, If. He's healthy and he's going to,
• 44:47
  yeah, he's going to give you the numbers.
• 44:48
  He's going to give you that sort of output.
• 44:50
  But with Grace Rodriguez, you can't do that.
• 44:51
  You can't be like, Oh, well, he's going to post for us
• 44:53
  because you don't know that he can.
• 44:55
  So here they same on that man. Here they sit with and again,
• 44:59
  this. This may not amount to a whole
• 45:01
  lot in the grand scheme of things, but to have this come
• 45:04
  out, have this news come out at the start of the season, he's
• 45:08
  going to miss time. That's just, it's just a not a
• 45:10
  good look. It's not a good.
• 45:11
  Look, shame on that front office.
• 45:14
  Not a good look. Last guy we got here, Francisco
• 45:18
  Alvarez, I think this news dropped.
• 45:20
  What today today broken left handmate bone is.
• 45:27
  That this guy. Is that the bottom?
• 45:33
  I think you're right. Must confirm hamate bone.
• 45:39
  Is it the bottom or? Is it?
• 45:40
  I didn't see how or why. Hamate bone is this is this guy.
• 45:45
  Oh no. It's this guy down?
• 45:48
  Sneaking into the wrist range, huh?
• 45:49
  No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait.
• 45:51
  I'm looking at the top of the hand.
• 45:54
  Is this the top of the hand back here?
• 45:58
  Yeah, it would have to be. Hold on, it's in the wrist area.
• 46:01
  Dude, that's not good. Well, not entirely.
• 46:04
  But it's it's close. I mean the hand by the right
• 46:07
  hand. Let's see here.
• 46:11
  Glove throwing hand, Do we know? Do you have a pitch?
• 46:18
  I'm looking for. It give me details.
• 46:21
  I mean, this just happened today, didn't it?
• 46:23
  Yeah, but I'd like for you to know how did the.
• 46:32
  How did Francisco Alvarez do this?
• 46:36
  It's a race, Francisco. How did Francisco Alvarez
• 46:43
  shatter his hamate bone in the chat?
• 46:51
  Did we already mentioned Francisco Alvarez?
• 46:56
  You're in luck. Not important.
• 47:00
  Not important how it happened. He's going to miss 6 to 8 weeks.
• 47:09
  What did we say? What did we say?
• 47:11
  Left. Hand.
• 47:12
  That's glove. Hand.
• 47:13
  That's bottom hand. Oh, I didn't hear you ask me
• 47:15
  about Glove Hand. I could have told you that.
• 47:17
  I just thought you said how it happened.
• 47:21
  What did we say? What was it?
• 47:23
  The Manaya news that Manaya's missing time?
• 47:28
  Wasn't there somebody else? Frankie Montas.
• 47:33
  Frankie Montos. Yes, like I have.
• 47:36
  I have to say it. So don't pigeonholed them.
• 47:45
  And now I'm not going to go that far.
• 47:47
  I will, I don't care. Now it's the Mets.
• 47:49
  They're not pigeon. They they can't be pigeonholed.
• 47:55
  Or can they I? Just don't think they wanted
• 47:57
  Pete Alonso around when he was like, you know, this, this.
• 48:00
  That's a whole different conversation.
• 48:02
  Tough man. When, when Steve Cohen was like,
• 48:04
  you know, like this is this is hard.
• 48:08
  Negotiating is hard stuff. I just don't think they want him
• 48:10
  around. I don't have that.
• 48:11
  Don't think it had anything to do with money, but.
• 48:16
  Let us weenie out of here. The Mets, I mean, we're already
• 48:19
  talking about a Mets team that has been, I won't say decimated
• 48:22
  by injuries, but a team that's not going to be healthy.
• 48:26
  Not the only one, of course, but one of the team, one of the
• 48:28
  teams out there that's going to be also like looking a little,
• 48:34
  little sloppy in terms of a starting.
• 48:36
  Lineup Kodi Singer to just come back and be the dude who's a
• 48:40
  little older who we sometimes forget had like a almost like a
• 48:45
  full career. How old is?
• 48:48
  That's 32. We're talking about how time is
• 48:50
  just flying by. Like what is where are we at
• 48:53
  with Kodi? Saying which I think he like, I
• 48:55
  think. He's 32.
• 48:57
  Sure is. I think the whole conversation
• 49:00
  of like, teams being where he was, injury concerns from his
• 49:03
  past. So like you're expecting two
• 49:06
  guys down now and your ace you brought in a few years ago to
• 49:10
  come back and be an ace and to throw, you know, 28 to 30
• 49:15
  starts. Oh no, bro, this is looking
• 49:19
  thin. This is starting to look real
• 49:21
  thin. Luis Torin set to be the Opening
• 49:24
  Day catcher for the Mets. So do that information what you
• 49:28
  will. That's tough.
• 49:54
  Get that quote? Whose quote was this?
• 50:05
  Whose quote was this? Nate, give me give me the
• 50:13
  episode information please. Episode 265 March 15th, 2022
• 50:26
  With that sink in a little bit. March of 2022 so this would have
• 50:30
  been the Astros World Series run or ultimately winning the World
• 50:37
  Series. This would have oh what What was
• 50:42
  the episode title? End of an era teams ready to
• 50:47
  compete in other deals to make sense of.
• 50:53
  OK. So this would have been close to
• 50:54
  opening day, so OK. Ready.
• 50:58
  Good to know, what do you got? It's not like David Ortiz, where
• 51:03
  it's like, well, he was with the Twins, but nobody cares about
• 51:06
  that. Freddie Freeman has been with
• 51:08
  the Braves and this. Is a Nate quote.
• 51:10
  For an extended. This is a Nate.
• 51:11
  Of time now you kind of transition to maybe say in LA or
• 51:16
  wherever he ends up and you just, you don't have that.
• 51:20
  I mean, you always be loved in Atlanta.
• 51:22
  This is innate. See, you can't even play the
• 51:25
  can't even play the clip. I'm hitting it so fast.
• 51:27
  It's innate. Quote wrong.
• 51:30
  That's not true, dude. It's wrong.
• 51:34
  It's yours. I have never well, I won't say
• 51:37
  never. Well, when when David Ortiz's
• 51:39
  name comes up, I I rarely have ever think twins.
• 51:44
  So why why period of time now you kind of transition to maybe
• 51:50
  say in LA or wherever he ends up and you just you don't have that
• 51:54
  sound like a child always be loved in in Elena.
• 51:57
  You'll have that forever. Nobody will take that away from
• 51:59
  him, but you just don't have that same effect.
• 52:01
  And so I'm just wondering what the difference in payout?
• 52:05
  All you dog. No, that's Nate.
• 52:09
  Stuff. Nope.
• 52:10
  That was Nate Chico. Literally was a man.
• 52:13
  No, I was trying to give you kudos because it was like a
• 52:16
  weird this is obviously not like super relevant to anything we're
• 52:18
  talking about today, but but the part where it says now you kind
• 52:24
  of transition to maybe say in LA or wherever he ends up, that's a
• 52:30
  little receipt there, you know, just a little semi age like
• 52:36
  wine. Well, we were talking about like
• 52:37
  the end of an era because the Braves brought in, Oh, this was
• 52:40
  age and. Saga.
• 52:41
  That's right, It was that whole. Period where like Matt Olson
• 52:44
  signed and then it was like obvious that the Braves were
• 52:47
  going in a different direction. And that's where you I let's try
• 52:51
  to give you a little credit here for saying that hold on could
• 52:54
  end up in LA. No, but what'd you say the date
• 52:56
  was? March 15th.
• 52:59
  Wow. Three days later, signed a six
• 53:01
  year, $160 million contract with the Dodgers.
• 53:03
  Didn't realize it was that close.
• 53:05
  Good to know, good to know. Not that like I, I don't think
• 53:08
  that was, you know. Wasn't far fetched at the time.
• 53:11
  Yeah, it wasn't a crazy idea, but still, it was just nice
• 53:14
  little nice little nugget for you to throw, but you got it
• 53:16
  wrong and you had to shove it in my face that you got it wrong
• 53:20
  over and over again. That wasn't that.
• 53:24
  Was not a good. Look, I mean, that wasn't, that
• 53:26
  wasn't like the hottest of takes pulled out from the the fryer.
• 53:30
  No, no to say that the Dodgers might sign Freddie.
• 53:34
  But. But it was just a thing.
• 53:35
  It was like, you know, I could. Have said any other team for?
• 53:38
  Always be loved in Atlanta. And it's like, I don't know.
• 53:41
  I did read another quote from that episode that I think we
• 53:43
  read a comment from somewhere is that Freddie Freeman ward #5
• 53:47
  because he was half the man that Chipper Jones is, is Chipper
• 53:52
  Ward 10. And it was like, you were like,
• 53:54
  we need to stop this slander of Freddie Freeman.
• 53:57
  But anyway. It was so stupid, man, like.
• 54:00
  Yeah, that was a weird thought. A Braves.
• 54:02
  Fan exposed themselves drastically at that time, yeah.
• 54:07
  Still got to be some love for Freddie.
• 54:10
  I don't know though, but like. How do you not love Freddie?
• 54:13
  We Fast forward and Freddie Freeman wins, say, one or maybe
• 54:16
  two more rings in LA. Wonder what hat he's going to be
• 54:19
  wearing in the Hall of Fame. You think it would be a brave?
• 54:23
  I don't know. Oh, I don't if if that happens,
• 54:27
  if he wins. It's in LA.
• 54:28
  It's in LA hat. Who wins?
• 54:29
  Another one or two rings, I mean.
• 54:32
  It's a Dodger hat, I think, so maybe Braves fans weren't crazy
• 54:36
  to think that way. All of that, it doesn't David.
• 54:39
  David Ortiz tying to the Twins. You just automatically threw it
• 54:44
  to me. It doesn't, and him going in as
• 54:49
  a Dodger would not or should not justify hating Freddie Freeman.
• 54:54
  Like it doesn't take away what he helped you do in 2021.
• 54:57
  It's just tough because like when you look at like the age of
• 55:00
  of Braves fans who like, you can argue where Braves fandom came
• 55:05
  from. You have Smoltz, you have
• 55:08
  Glavin, you have Maddox, you have Chipper Jones, you have
• 55:10
  Andrew Jones. Yeah, sure, some of those guys
• 55:12
  didn't stay Brave the whole time, but like, you have these
• 55:15
  names that are just like they became who they are because of
• 55:20
  the Braves. And Chipper was there forever.
• 55:22
  And it's like I, I kind of, I kind of understand where they
• 55:28
  feel slighted, especially for him to go to in LA and
• 55:31
  especially now that he has a ring.
• 55:33
  There might be some bitter people out there.
• 55:35
  There's definitely bitter people out there.
• 55:37
  There's always bitter people out there.
• 55:40
  Closing the book here. Two more things because I got a
• 55:44
  just a little question for you to close things out.
• 55:48
  Closing the book, Vladdy junior spoke about the negotiation
• 55:51
  process with the Blue Jays. He said that quoted as saying
• 55:56
  the OR I'm sorry. They asked him about the offer
• 56:00
  that I think he presented and he was quoted as saying it's much
• 56:04
  less than Soto. We're talking about many fewer
• 56:06
  millions than Soto, more than 100 million less.
• 56:10
  It was the same number of years, but it didn't reach 600.
• 56:14
  The last number we gave them as a counter offer didn't reach
• 56:17
  600. I don't.
• 56:22
  This is dumb. What are you doing?
• 56:25
  We did. We did say this.
• 56:27
  We rewind a couple episodes ago. We looked through the
• 56:30
  transcripts and receipts again. We did say that.
• 56:32
  This is very normal, very normal for one of the sides to release
• 56:38
  the number after the trade or the extension talks die off
• 56:44
  after the deadline passes. One of these sides, I can
• 56:47
  guarantee you the Toronto's going to chirp back, someone in
• 56:50
  the organization's going to come out and within the next days or
• 56:53
  weeks going to say something of like, yeah, we offered him this.
• 56:56
  We felt like it was a great offer.
• 56:59
  So it's I think it's weird for the player slash camp to come
• 57:02
  out with that number. Yeah.
• 57:05
  When? Also, like if if you are seeking
• 57:09
  600 million, that that's a weird way to put your foot in your
• 57:12
  mouth by saying, yeah, like we're we're cool like under 600,
• 57:15
  but they didn't even reach that. So it's like, OK, any other
• 57:17
  team. Why would you put a cap on it
• 57:19
  before they the discussions have even started with other
• 57:22
  organizations? Doesn't make any sense.
• 57:25
  I stand by what I said didn't he does not want to stay in Toronto
• 57:28
  and frankly, N he needs to go somewhere else and do what he
• 57:34
  does. Question for you to wrap things
• 57:37
  up here because I put this post out on Facebook and I was like,
• 57:39
  yeah, you know what? This might be a fun, fun little
• 57:41
  way to close out next episode. What's sort of majorly shifting
• 57:48
  gears here. What is a baseball player, team,
• 57:54
  or moment that they haven't made a movie about yet but should?
• 58:02
  What is a player, team or moments in baseball that they
• 58:06
  haven't made a movie about yet but should?
• 58:10
  It's really good and I. Understand that I'm putting you
• 58:17
  on the spot here, so if people in the chat want to help, help
• 58:20
  our our dear friend Nate out. With some thoughts, give me a
• 58:26
  Nolan Ryan movie. I think for the length of his
• 58:31
  career and and like the the legendary status that he had,
• 58:39
  the number of teams that he played for, the number of cities
• 58:41
  he was in, like the big moments that he had in his career, the
• 58:46
  accolades that he had. Like, I feel like that'd be a
• 58:49
  pretty cool, a pretty cool movie to tell you through like a lot
• 58:55
  of different phases of the game as well.
• 58:58
  Like you can see how much the game had changed from when he
• 59:01
  started his career to where he ended it.
• 59:03
  And you can see just I think there's something about 70s and
• 59:10
  80s baseball that is is not exactly in theaters.
• 59:17
  It's not exactly sure. Super widely known.
• 59:22
  Like we've seen movies about Jackie Robinson.
• 59:23
  We can go back to like, you know, 61 for like, you know,
• 59:27
  Mickey Mantle and Rodger Maris. Like we have the 40s, fifties,
• 59:31
  60s, We've had Babe Ruth, Like we've had a lot of those eras,
• 59:34
  the 70s and 80s. I feel like it's like super
• 59:37
  untapped. And to have a Nolan Ryan who
• 59:40
  spanned across and you'd be able to see like what baseball looked
• 59:44
  like across those decades. I think it'd be kind of cool.
• 59:47
  I think it'd be a good movie. I don't know who would play him.
• 59:52
  Are you thinking in the style of like The Rookie and like Dennis
• 59:55
  Quaid where it's like it's like more of a light hearted, but it
• 59:58
  sort of follows? It's like a home life.
• 1:00:01
  It's like a it's like a home life.
• 1:00:02
  The the man of Nolan Ryan, not necessarily like so much about
• 1:00:06
  performance on the field, but just who he was.
• 1:00:09
  And it's funny because like when you say the rookie, like Dennis
• 1:00:13
  Quaid, I think could pull it off.
• 1:00:14
  But he's a lefty and you know. Whoever plays that role would
• 1:00:18
  have to absolutely either have played baseball or take some
• 1:00:25
  serious lessons to be able to. That's the hardest part of of
• 1:00:30
  this game, man. Is that like actors just don't
• 1:00:32
  know how to make the moves? In the chat.
• 1:00:35
  I love this answer. He's a great one.
• 1:00:38
  Is Yogi heck any World War Two player in the middle of the
• 1:00:41
  prime player? I would love a movie on the
• 1:00:43
  state of baseball during World War 2.
• 1:00:46
  And I like, I understand there's like documentaries and, and
• 1:00:48
  things like that. I, I, I know that I can get my
• 1:00:50
  fix that way. But like, take me into baseball
• 1:00:56
  during World War 2, where you have guys like Ted Williams,
• 1:01:04
  DiMaggio, DiMaggio. Bob Gibson was served too,
• 1:01:07
  didn't he? Didn't we just talk about this
• 1:01:08
  recently? Yeah, Just you see these guys, I
• 1:01:11
  mean, not World War 2, obviously, but you you see guys
• 1:01:14
  leave during wartime at like peaks of their careers, primes
• 1:01:18
  of their careers, and then some of them come back and pick right
• 1:01:23
  back up where they left off. Like, give me, give me a movie
• 1:01:26
  about that. Give me a story about the the
• 1:01:32
  You got to think the uncertainty of baseball when you have some
• 1:01:35
  of the best names you have in the sport to offer.
• 1:01:38
  Leaving to go fight in wartime. You don't know if they're coming
• 1:01:43
  back like that's. Man, that'd make a heck of a
• 1:01:45
  movie. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:01:48
  It'd be cool. I like that.
• 1:01:50
  I love it. We can't just steal his.
• 1:01:52
  You got, you got 1. Nolan Right?
• 1:01:55
  You said Nolan Ryan. That's a good one.
• 1:02:01
  I'm trying to think of moments but.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, moment moments is tough because I mean it would have to
• 1:02:06
  be like a very far reaching type moment.
• 1:02:10
  I'm trying to think of like a team.
• 1:02:12
  What are some recent teams? The 2013 stocks doesn't really
• 1:02:20
  count because they've sort of dabbled in that a little bit.
• 1:02:30
  I don't know, man. You, you probably have to go
• 1:02:32
  player. You'd probably have to go
• 1:02:34
  player. Dang, Nolan Ryan was a good one.
• 1:02:42
  I just, I, I like that. I, I would like to have me
• 1:02:46
  personally have more knowledge about that era of baseball and I
• 1:02:53
  think what a, what a perfect name to be able to just kind of
• 1:02:56
  carry over that length of time. Dang, Pete, they've got they've
• 1:03:00
  got one on Pete Rose, but that would make a heck of a they like
• 1:03:03
  did something a little more modern with it.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah. I don't know, I'll have to think
• 1:03:09
  on that. I might might bring something
• 1:03:11
  to. Your own question.
• 1:03:12
  Yeah, that I asked you. I'm not going to sit here and
• 1:03:15
  ask myself a question. I'm going to talk to myself.
• 1:03:18
  I like it. I like that question.
• 1:03:19
  Where'd that come from? No, no, just thought of it one
• 1:03:23
  day. I was like, let me let me get
• 1:03:24
  some put some viewers out, see what people are thinking.
• 1:03:26
  Actually, you know, before we go, let me let me go through a
• 1:03:30
  couple because you know, I always, I always rag on the
• 1:03:32
  people on Facebook sometimes from like, yeah, they're just
• 1:03:35
  too, too vicious in the comments.
• 1:03:37
  But I heard some, I heard some 01 of the more obvious ones, the
• 1:03:42
  whole the the 2017 Astros. I mean that.
• 1:03:45
  Would make. I was thinking that way but I
• 1:03:47
  was like. It's kind of lazy but it's
• 1:03:50
  regardless it would make a a good movie for sure, one that I
• 1:03:54
  saw. Oh, I just had another name.
• 1:03:57
  Roy Holiday. I think that'd be a really.
• 1:04:00
  Didn't they come out? Don't they have?
• 1:04:02
  Well, maybe it was like a lower budget thing, but I swear they
• 1:04:04
  came out with something. You know what it is?
• 1:04:06
  I think I'm blurring the lines between like movies and like.
• 1:04:10
  30. For 30, yeah, like 30 for 30s
• 1:04:12
  and stuff like that. Dude.
• 1:04:15
  Josh Hamilton. Great, great movie.
• 1:04:20
  That'd be. That would be.
• 1:04:22
  I don't know if you read his book crazy story, dude crazy.
• 1:04:27
  One of the craziest baseball stories I've ever just like
• 1:04:31
  personal stories I've ever read beyond belief.
• 1:04:34
  And admittedly I I think since that because that book's been
• 1:04:38
  out for like probably close to a decade now, but maybe even
• 1:04:43
  longer. But he I think since that book
• 1:04:48
  has happened, like he's just gotten caught up in like some
• 1:04:51
  again, just some more pretty terrible things.
• 1:04:54
  So I I don't know if the because I'm pretty sure I had like a
• 1:04:57
  pretty decent ending, like sort of left it on a high note, if I
• 1:05:01
  recall. But you know, he's gotten
• 1:05:02
  twisted up in some bad things. But still I.
• 1:05:04
  Haven't heard too much about him.
• 1:05:06
  Dude you need to gone downhill. You need to read that book like
• 1:05:10
  yesterday. That is an incredible book.
• 1:05:14
  But yeah, that would that it's sort of stealing an answer, but
• 1:05:17
  I think that would be my answer because that meant it would be
• 1:05:20
  tough to find one. I think the anything around and
• 1:05:23
  even if you start changing names or like start doing like if you
• 1:05:28
  want to fill in different names, but like, I think maybe just
• 1:05:31
  have like a behind the scenes look of steroids and just during
• 1:05:38
  the steroid era, like what the clubhouse was like, like how
• 1:05:41
  many, you know, if guys are just openly having like a needle
• 1:05:44
  shoved in their butt, you know, in, in the in the locker room,
• 1:05:48
  right? Like that'd be kind of
• 1:05:50
  interesting to see if you did change names and you didn't
• 1:05:53
  necessarily like, but you got stories from players without
• 1:05:58
  names being used. Like I I think there's a way to
• 1:06:00
  do something there. Another name I saw Mike Piazza
• 1:06:04
  getting drafted as late as he did, going on to have the career
• 1:06:08
  he did. And then you, you know, you tie
• 1:06:09
  into like the 9/11 stuff. Like there, there's some
• 1:06:11
  potential there. But yeah, interesting question
• 1:06:14
  to think on some somebody, said Wander Franco.
• 1:06:21
  Too soon. Too soon, but anyway, that's all
• 1:06:25
  I got. You got anything else?
• 1:06:27
  That's it for me, dog, That's it.
• 1:06:28
  Let's let's just have a good week, you know what I mean?
• 1:06:30
  Let's everyone stay healthy, keep their head up, head on a
• 1:06:34
  swivel, and let's get through this week unscathed.
• 1:06:38
  Hopefully better than that, Jason Curveballs.
• 1:06:44
  Levion is always looking forward to talking more baseball with
• 1:06:47
  you guys soon. Until next time, say filthy.