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The Week That Was · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: And of course it is Friday morning.
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  Speaker 2: It is time for the week that was and joining
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  Speaker 2: us live in the studio. We have got the Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Opposition Leader Jared Maylee.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Sky News Darwin's bureau chief Matt Cunningham, Good
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  Speaker 2: morning to you. Great have you in the studio. And
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  Speaker 2: we have got Brent Potter, who is indeed the member
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  Speaker 2: for Funny Baye.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning morning, Katy, Morning listeners.
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  Speaker 1: All blokes line up this morning.
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  Speaker 5: It's quite unusual for us.
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  Speaker 2: Loving yourself, signor Jared Bayley. What a way to start
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  Speaker 2: the show? Well, yeah, to hear what goes on in
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  Speaker 2: the breaks. Well, I'll tell you what. It has been
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  Speaker 2: certainly an interesting week and we will start with some
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  Speaker 2: pretty heavy news I think you'd have to say, and
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  Speaker 2: that is that unrest in the West Daily region. It's
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  Speaker 2: causing some really serious concerns at the moment. A thirty
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  Speaker 2: six year old man was killed in Pepperminati on Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 2: Now Major Crime Senior Sergeant Paul Morrissey has told the
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  Speaker 2: media that the man suffered an arrow wound and was
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  Speaker 2: taken to the health clinic in the community where he
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  Speaker 2: was declared deceased. He told a press conference earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the week. We believe that will be connected to the
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  Speaker 2: ongoing disturbances out there in the West Daily region. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he said that the fatal shooting was believed to be
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  Speaker 2: connected to the ongoing disputes between families in the region,
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  Speaker 2: which were also the cause of violent unrest in neighboring
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  Speaker 2: what Air. Now, an eighteen year old man has now
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  Speaker 2: been charged. We know that additional police resources have been
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  Speaker 2: sent to the community, including four detectives from the Major
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  Speaker 2: crime and two crime scene examiners. Now, there is no
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  Speaker 2: doubt that there's concern in this space, I mean the
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  Speaker 2: community of what Air. We know we've had some really
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  Speaker 2: serious issues out there in recent months and you know
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  Speaker 2: we've even had people then displaced here in Darwin for
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  Speaker 2: quite some time as well. So to hear that that
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  Speaker 2: has then spilled to Pepperminati is a concern and I
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  Speaker 2: think for the whole of the Northern territory.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just like this first start off with saying
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  Speaker 6: what are the labor guman doing about it? You know,
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  Speaker 6: there's been at least two sittings since this is unfolded
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  Speaker 6: and it's been ongoing. It's not a surprise that there's
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  Speaker 6: been this unrest. It's been ongoing, and it affects all
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  Speaker 6: the territories because people are coming into the cities because
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  Speaker 6: they're displacing them out there. And then we saw that
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  Speaker 6: machete fight in Woolworths. I understand there from people from
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  Speaker 6: Port Keats. There's a whole lot of people camping in
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  Speaker 6: the rural area doing it, living rough out there, leaving
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  Speaker 6: a whole lot of rubbish around and all the antisocial behaviors.
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  Speaker 6: So it affects right across the territory and ultimately labors
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  Speaker 6: could do something about it, like where is the local member,
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  Speaker 6: what's he doing?
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  Speaker 3: Has he been out there?
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  Speaker 6: It's time for labor to go and fix the problem
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  Speaker 6: because it's affecting territories right across of the territory and
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  Speaker 6: also children because they don't want to see all his
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  Speaker 6: antisocial behavior because it comes into darl And it's just
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  Speaker 6: enough enough.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, no one wants to see his behavior. I
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  Speaker 4: did that at the Funny Bay by election. But I
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  Speaker 4: think that's something we can one hundred percent resolve. I
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  Speaker 4: think the stuff that's happening to PEPPERINHARDI is it's extremely sad.
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  Speaker 4: First and foremost, someone has lost their life. There is
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  Speaker 4: a community that's morning that person. Of course, we've sent
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  Speaker 4: more police resources out there now to go and do
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  Speaker 4: it that there's an ongoing investigation. This is a complex
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  Speaker 4: issue at PEPPERMINHARTI specifically. Obviously what I as well, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't get resolved overnight. You've got to continue engage at
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  Speaker 4: both parties. And I think commenting any more on the
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  Speaker 4: policing response will only bring attention to We need to
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  Speaker 4: let them go do the investigation and follow that through.
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  Speaker 4: But I think in terms of any social behavior stuff,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we've got mechanisms and plants in place that
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  Speaker 4: we've got return to country going on. We've got Baton Road,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to go and activate at least in Funny Bay,
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  Speaker 4: We're going to go and activate Bundela Park, and we're
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  Speaker 4: working through that now. What I will say is police
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  Speaker 4: have been really responsive lately. It's very evident that they're
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  Speaker 4: focused on it and they're getting out and they're getting
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  Speaker 4: on top of it. So I can see that in
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  Speaker 4: my electorate and you can see it in town, and
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  Speaker 4: just got to keep working at it. Katie.
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  Speaker 3: People say this is a generational thing. You know, it's ongoing.
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  Speaker 6: But ultimately, if I go back to the Labor government,
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  Speaker 6: they've been in power for seventeen ot the last twenty
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  Speaker 6: odd years, so these people weren't even born when Labor
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  Speaker 6: come into power.
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  Speaker 3: So it's time for the government to pull the levers
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  Speaker 3: and fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Look, the warrior, I guess is as well out there
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  Speaker 2: and you know what is so we're talking about that
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  Speaker 2: whole region. But out there and what are we know
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  Speaker 2: that a number of homes or obviously destroyed as well
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  Speaker 2: not too long back. But we've also got a situation
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  Speaker 2: now where the West Daily Regional Council Chief Executive Matthew
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  Speaker 2: Eastam had told the media that he had serious concerns
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  Speaker 2: four Peppy as well as the nearby communities of Palumpa
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  Speaker 2: and and as a result, they'd closed earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 2: all their council services and their contractors had left early yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Now the Northern Territory News was reporting that the nurse
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  Speaker 2: has still remained in that community at this point in time,
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  Speaker 2: But it isn't you know, it does sound as though
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  Speaker 2: it's a dangerous situation. You've got women and children out there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a dangerous situation I think for everybody involved.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you talk about staff in those locations
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  Speaker 2: as well and making sure that they are safe.
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  Speaker 7: It was making it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's sort of a snowball effect because the
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  Speaker 5: violence increases and then the staff leave, right And I
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  Speaker 5: think there are fewer staff probably in what air than
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  Speaker 5: there were maybe twelve months ago because of that fighting,
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  Speaker 5: in that violence that has just been continuing. I mean
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  Speaker 5: we've had two deaths now, I've had more than a
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  Speaker 5: hundred houses I think destroyed or damaged. This is it's
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  Speaker 5: a disaster, an absolute disaster, and yet it remains sort
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  Speaker 5: of out of sight and out of mind for so
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  Speaker 5: many people. I mean, there's virtually nothing reported nationally about this,
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  Speaker 5: you know, this situation that's been happening for a long time.
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  Speaker 5: It just I don't know, we either don't care or
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  Speaker 5: we think of situations too hard and we don't want
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  Speaker 5: to do about it.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't know, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the answer is.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my parents lived out there about ten years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I mum used to run the clinic out there,
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  Speaker 2: and there certainly wasn't while there has been on rest
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  Speaker 2: over the years in different ways out in Whatever for example,
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  Speaker 2: it does seem to be particularly bad at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: And and you know, I know that the police had
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  Speaker 2: called meetings with the community leaders to try and sort this,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know that we've ever experienced so much
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  Speaker 2: before either the way that it sends spilled out to
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  Speaker 2: other areas of the Northern Territory like we have experienced
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  Speaker 2: even in darwittt you know, orded on it really extensively
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  Speaker 2: over recent weeks where there's cars being stolen from around
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  Speaker 2: Darwin and driven out to places like Pepperminati and also
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  Speaker 2: to what Air. You know, it's just a few weeks
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  Speaker 2: ago that we had the Assistant Commissioner Travis Wurst on
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  Speaker 2: the show telling people that if you're leaving your car
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  Speaker 2: on the street, well you're going to need to either
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  Speaker 2: disengage the battery or you're going to need to have
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  Speaker 2: a steering wheel lock.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're being targeted right now.
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  Speaker 2: So no matter how you look at it, there's so
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  Speaker 2: many different facets to it that really need to get
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  Speaker 2: sorted out.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it does ultimately enough enough we need to go
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  Speaker 6: out there and fix it and just saying it's a
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  Speaker 6: difficult situation and no one cares. Well, someone does care
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  Speaker 6: because the people out there getting killed, and there are
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  Speaker 6: people morning right now about this death and I think
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  Speaker 6: it's the second death out there, and just to flow
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  Speaker 6: on effect from that as well, it's just really labor
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  Speaker 6: government might be a tough decisions to make, or it
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  Speaker 6: might be some hard decisions to make, but that's what
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  Speaker 6: the government's there for.
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  Speaker 3: I really got to step up.
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  Speaker 5: I think they probably need to get together people who
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  Speaker 5: actually know about the situation, know about that area, know
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  Speaker 5: about what's going on. The best thing that I've read
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  Speaker 5: on this whole situation in the past twelve months has
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  Speaker 5: been Dominic McCormack's piece in the Anti News a couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks ago, and he highlighted a couple of things.
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  Speaker 5: He highlighted one the elders basically authority dissipating and their
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  Speaker 5: inability to discipline children. And then also the impact basically
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  Speaker 5: of welfare and royalty money and the fact that you
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  Speaker 5: know that people over generations in these communities have learned
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  Speaker 5: basically that they don't need to work, and so you know,
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  Speaker 5: rather than sort of gain employment, they wait for the
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  Speaker 5: royalty payment to come out.
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  Speaker 7: I mean he even described, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Scenes of people chasing the land council troop carrier down
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  Speaker 5: the road because they know that that's where the money
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  Speaker 5: is coming from.
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  Speaker 7: You know, at some point we're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: do something.
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  Speaker 5: About that situation, because it's a situation that's been created,
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  Speaker 5: and I think we're seeing the effects of that play
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  Speaker 5: out now and it's horrific what's happening.
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  Speaker 6: And you've got a couple of thousand people living in
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  Speaker 6: the area and there's almost one hundreds unemployment, and what
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  Speaker 6: do they do, you know, sit around.
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  Speaker 1: And well, people have to have opportunity, don't they.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, we bring it right back to local decision
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  Speaker 4: making at the end of the day, the communities and
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  Speaker 4: the local elders and those that live out they need
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  Speaker 4: to be at the forefront of coming up with the solution.
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  Speaker 4: I think local decision making is empowered those communities that
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  Speaker 4: have joined on with it and will continue to work
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  Speaker 4: that throughout the territory. But to say that it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to resolve it overnight. It is multi generation,
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  Speaker 4: or it's going to take decades to resolve every one
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  Speaker 4: of the issues. You keep working out you keep putting
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  Speaker 4: money into remote housing education.
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  Speaker 2: Now, one of the other issues that has been flowing
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  Speaker 2: throughout the week as well, and certainly one which has
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  Speaker 2: been raised in recent days, is that of alcohol in communities. Now,
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  Speaker 2: just Enterprice is set to introduce a private member's bill.
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  Speaker 2: She's going to be joining us on the show this
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  Speaker 2: morning after ten o'clock about this. She's currently preparing this
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  Speaker 2: private members bill to reintroduce bands in some communities. She's
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  Speaker 2: going to be reaching out to other federal representatives and
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  Speaker 2: she hopes that other federal members will support this move.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess that this is a really interesting one.
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  Speaker 2: In addition to that, we know that the COLP had
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  Speaker 2: earlier this week raised some concerns with figures that they
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  Speaker 2: had obtained through written questions put to the government earlier
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  Speaker 2: this year. Now, in Alice Springs, there were one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and seventy nine domestic violence related police call outs over
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  Speaker 2: a seven day period in July. So that was throughout
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  Speaker 2: that July period. Now, I set it to the Opposition
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  Speaker 2: leader at the time on Tuesday morning. It's a big
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  Speaker 2: call to say that you do believe that those stronger
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  Speaker 2: futures legislation ending is directly linked to this, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: Lea Finocchiaro had said on the show that that was
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  Speaker 2: her firm belief.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I don't know where this is all going to land,
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  Speaker 1: but it's.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the figures don't lie that those see has come
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  Speaker 6: out straight after the Strongest Futures. Remember this Stronger Futures
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  Speaker 6: legislation was always programmed to end after his ten or
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  Speaker 6: year program on July. The government really had an opportunity
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  Speaker 6: to try and fix it, whether to negotiate or to
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  Speaker 6: get into those community and make sure that they're ready
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  Speaker 6: for this alcohol to go in. And yet nothing really happened.
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  Speaker 6: And the figures speak for themselves. It's really the facts
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  Speaker 6: are there that as soon as it come into player
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  Speaker 6: who had these massive increases in domestic violence and ultimately
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  Speaker 6: alcohol fueled domestic violences is a scourge on our communities.
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  Speaker 4: I really do. Because we tried to negotiate with the
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  Speaker 4: federal government around extend Say, I'd asked one question, where
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  Speaker 4: was this enterprise when this legislation was ending, Where was
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  Speaker 4: her voice? Then there's nothing but political grandstanding. It's and
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  Speaker 4: it's another case of the federal government, certain members want
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  Speaker 4: to tell territories what they can and can't do around legislation.
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  Speaker 4: They want to come in and override it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the point is the territory government aren't doing anything
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 4: The point is every community should have the ability to
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  Speaker 4: determine how they access olcaline and how they use it.
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  Speaker 4: That's the problem. When you bring in the intervention, you
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  Speaker 4: force it underground. You you are actually facilitating secondary supply.
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  Speaker 4: You're creating the issue of a prohibition. It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 4: We need to bring it to the forefront. We need
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  Speaker 4: to bring it into the light and let the communities
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  Speaker 4: decide how they want.
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  Speaker 2: To use it.
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  Speaker 6: But you've had these areas where have no alcohol for
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  Speaker 6: a number of number of years, and if you go
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  Speaker 6: into places in the territory where there is alcohol, there's
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  Speaker 6: also of alcohol reabilitation programs. There is a return of
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  Speaker 6: country programs, all those programs available for those people because
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  Speaker 6: we know that seems alcohol is the problem. But you
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  Speaker 6: go to those communities where there hasn't been any alcohol,
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  Speaker 6: there's no Those programs aren't there and the government didn't
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  Speaker 6: put them in there ready for the alcohol to hit
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  Speaker 6: the community. So that's one of the major problems there.
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  Speaker 6: So all these alcohols come in and yet there's no
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  Speaker 6: services there to help the people in the community deal
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  Speaker 6: with the alcohol problems, which we know is the increase
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  Speaker 6: investment domestic violence.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a concern that's been raised obviously by
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  Speaker 2: the Police Association. We've spoken to them about this previously.
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  Speaker 2: We also spoke to them earlier in the week and
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  Speaker 2: they had said that, you know that it is certainly
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  Speaker 2: causing some additional stress on resourcing, you know, in anecdotally
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  Speaker 2: obviously in some of those communities. And I really don't
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  Speaker 2: know whether it's too early to tell. I mean, Matt,
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  Speaker 2: what's your take in this space.
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  Speaker 5: I thought one thing I heard this week that was interesting,
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  Speaker 5: and it was during the inquest into the death of
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  Speaker 5: Cumen Jay Walker. And obviously it's the racist text messages
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  Speaker 5: that have made all of them headlines, but also during
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  Speaker 5: the evidence that was given by Sergeant Ann Jolly, who's
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  Speaker 5: the officer in charge now at at yundermove now UNDI
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  Speaker 5: moves a unity that was dry before the intervention and
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  Speaker 5: remains dry after the expiration of stronger futures. But she
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  Speaker 5: said she told that inquiry that they had seen an
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  Speaker 5: increase in the amount of alcohol they are seeing in
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  Speaker 5: that dry community community that was dry before and remains
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  Speaker 5: is dry after since July seventeen, the reason being that
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  Speaker 5: the Wolpury Camp in Alice Springs is no longer dry.
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  Speaker 5: And you'll understand that one of the things you have
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  Speaker 5: to do when you go to purchase alcohol at the
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  Speaker 5: bottle shop is you have to give an address right now.
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  Speaker 7: Previously, if you were at Wolpury Camp and you.
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  Speaker 5: Gave that address, you couldn't purchase alcohol because it was
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  Speaker 5: a dry camp. Now you can say I live at
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  Speaker 5: Wolpury Camp, and then you know you can get that strog,
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  Speaker 5: and then that therefore is having a flow on effect
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  Speaker 5: that there's more grog going out to a community like
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  Speaker 5: under move.
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  Speaker 7: I agree with.
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  Speaker 5: Your point that Aboriginal people should have the right to decide.
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  Speaker 5: I think the concern is that this just happened overnight,
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  Speaker 5: and this is what a lot of health professionals have
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  Speaker 5: heard John Boffer say this this week is why did
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  Speaker 5: they make it opt in and not opt out? I
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  Speaker 5: I got this two year sort of period in between. Now,
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  Speaker 5: why didn't we say, okay, we know this is coming.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Let's forget about the fact that it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: organized properly up to July seventeen, But to then suddenly
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  Speaker 5: say overnight, all right, We're going to go from nothing
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  Speaker 5: to everything without any measures putting in between, just seems
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  Speaker 5: like madness to me.
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  Speaker 2: It was a question that I'd asked at the time,
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  Speaker 2: like I'd ask the Chief well, I can't remember whether
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  Speaker 2: Natasha Philes was the Chief Minister or the Health Minister
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  Speaker 2: at the time, but I'd ask that question, why are
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  Speaker 2: we going for the opt out rather than the opt in?
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  Speaker 2: You know, like it just seemed bizarre to me, And
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  Speaker 2: it was something that we'd obviously spoken at length about
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  Speaker 2: prior to it happening. We'd also spoken to the likes
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  Speaker 2: of John Patterson from AMSAMT, we'd spoken to the Police
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  Speaker 2: Association about it. They'd raise those very serious concerns. But
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, like, what are we going to
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  Speaker 2: do now in terms of if we do see an
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  Speaker 2: increase in domestic violence or we do see an increase
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  Speaker 2: in some serious concerns out in those communities and then
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  Speaker 2: spilling into you know, two major cities as well, what
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  Speaker 2: is the you know, what is the plan? What are
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  Speaker 2: we what are we going to.
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  Speaker 6: Do to make sure that they've just for no reason.
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  Speaker 6: There was a big report and there was some really
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  Speaker 6: serious issues in those communities about alcohol and pornography. So
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  Speaker 6: there was some really and that's why it was brought in.
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  Speaker 6: It was brought in a for ten year window to
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  Speaker 6: get fixed. Unfortunately, nothing really happened and it stopped, and
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  Speaker 6: then we're going back to where we were, and it
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  Speaker 6: really needs to be looked at because these people are
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  Speaker 6: getting this alcohol. We know it affects them and it
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  Speaker 6: ill affect anyone in a bad way, and they haven't
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  Speaker 6: got the services there to help them through that problem.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't just relate. It wasn't that was the root
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  Speaker 4: cause of it, but it had other flow and effects.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: And hence, while we asked to work with the come
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: off coming to extend it like that was their decision
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: to cease it before the election. That was nothing but
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: an election deployed from them. If we extended it, we
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: could have worked through with more greater time lead time
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: with the communities. But the reality is have the next
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: two years, cmen CE and the local execut directors will
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: work with local communities to determine what they want. Those
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: that had prior to the intervention had restrictions those still
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: stand you had an opportunity. I can understand this method
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: your determination. Like you know, there are communities that can
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: manage it perfectly. They should have access like every other territory.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: If we start doing that, we have race based policies.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: That's the reality. It's very clear that's what happens. We
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: can't do that.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Fundamentally, at the heart of this as well, is that
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: we are talking about domestic violence also, and we're talking
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: about incredibly high rates of domestic violence. You know, with
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: those numbers that the CLP had come out with earlier
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: in the week in terms of the high number of
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: callouts that had been received over that short period of
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: time in Alice Springs obviously one hundred and seventy nine
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: domestic violence related police callouts over a seven day.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Period in July.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Even this week, we've seen some horrendous reports of dv
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I know that it's not an easy fix.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I understand that. I think everybody gets it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: It's really complex, but it's a real scourge in the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Northern Territory right now. If you think about some of
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: those terrible incidents that have occurred over the past year
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: or throughout this year. It's horrific when.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: We've put a minister for it because we know how
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: much of an important issue is the first one in
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Australia put a minister directly for domestic vines and family
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Sexual balance. I think at the end of the day,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: though they're reporting, they're big numbers, but I'd rather people
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: report and actually call it in so police and go
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: and respond to it, because what we don't want is
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: people having the fear not to respond to or call
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: it in. There before we don't get a response and
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: it happens behind closed doors. The numbers are not great.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: We need to work on it. I think one hundred
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: and sixty million dollars. You know there are fourteen million
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: dollars for women shelters that we've committed. She's got to
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: keep plugging at it and work really hard.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: We will take a very short break. You are listening
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the Week that was. If you've just joined us, we
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: are in the studio with Jared Maylee, Matt Cunningham and
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Brent Potter for the Week that was. And I tell
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you what one of the topics this week that really
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: got everybody talking was when the Mayor Convat Scarletts joined
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: us in the studio on Wednesday morning. I tell it,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Con gets everybody talking every Wednesday.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: He always has plenty to say.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And well, basically, there had been a motion moved in
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: the council meeting the City of Darwin to beef up
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: CBD safety on the back of daily complaints about anti
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: social behavior. So essentially, council officers will the council, i
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: should say, had proposed that a new police beat be
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: formed in West Lane, which is indeed that little sort
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: of narrow area that runs into Mitchell Street, and councilors
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: voted for that offer or that shop space to be
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: provided to the Northern Territory Police in an effort to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: try to combat anti social behavior. Now my understanding is
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that the Northern Territory Police have knocked back that offer
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and said that they no longer have those police beats.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They prefer to be mobile and want their officers to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: be out and about mobile. But it was mixed, really
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: mixed response I think from our listeners and from a
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: lot of people around the community sort of some of
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: them going, do you know what, At least the council is.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Looking at doing something different.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: At least they're prepared to offer that space others saying no, no,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the you know, the police officers shouldn't be sort of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: stuck in a shop, they should actually be out there
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: on the streets.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: If you look at the police station is not very
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: far from the head.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Look if you look at the big picture here, like
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: crime and our social behavior has got such a level
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: that people outside the government try and find solutions like
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: this is what this is a solution, and maybe it
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: was a good, bad idea, but this is how bad
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: it's got. And obviously the labor government haven't got any
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: ideas at all. They can't come up with anything at all.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: So people outside the government are try and bring in
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: these solutions. And maybe the police could be do it
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: or couldn't do it, But it's just the big picture
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: here is crime is so bad that other people other
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: than labor government have come up with solutions.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: What sort of goes to the heart of I think,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you know, whether you like CON's proposal or you don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: like cons proposal, it goes to the heart of what
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: people are saying at the moment that they want to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: see more police out on the streets. I guess, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I know that policing has obviously changed a lot in
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: recent years. There's a lot more sort of secure cameras around.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: All those cameras, mobile police units around the place, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: then they're able to mobilize as required.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: To different areas.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But you really can't be you know, when we used
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to have remember the police used to be on their
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: horseback sometimes throughout them all and places like that, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: you would have to argue that it does certainly deter
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: people from doing the rest.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I think you've see the Segway patrols. They're back out.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: They're not the horses, but they're the electronic version, I
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: guess of the horses. I mean, I've seen more police
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks and I've seen previously.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, COVID was difficult and then they had leave.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: These guys needed leave. We had to give that to them.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: They deserve that, they earned it. And now they're back
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: on the beat. I mean I'm seeing them in pra
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Ap and Fanny Bay at least three four times a
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: day driving around. I mean, conn is looking at alternative options.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: That's fantastic from the oldom and that's what you want
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to see. From your council. I guess what I would
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: say is having someone sitting behind a desk, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: doesn't achieve the act. Come we want you want boots
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: on the ground, you want to dominating the terrain and
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: walking around and engaging. I mean, we need to give
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: time for these guys to get back to work from
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: holidays the break that they needed, and continue to work
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: on it. To say that, you know, we're getting the
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: wet season. That is a tough period of time, so
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: we need to get on top of it, continue to
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: work through the wet because it's difficult.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: From my experience has been a lawyer, if you really
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: want to stop crime, the one way to do it
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: is make sure you're going to get caught. You know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: we've got all our man if you're seydnything which has
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: got access to general to terran and that's got it
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: does its job. But if you're going to know you're
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: going to get caught, you're.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Not going to do a crime.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: So if there's a police out there walking around doing
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: the bet and there in the walking around and you
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: see them, you're not going to go and do a
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: crime because you know you're going to get caught.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Police are catching them, Jared, what police.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Still look at the anti social behavior police is everywhere.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: They're not going to go into a media statement every
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: time they catch it perpetrated, because it's just a.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: General appearance of crime and anti social behavior throughout the territory.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: We can limit to darn if you want to, but
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: we can say anywhere Tenant, Creig, Alice Springs or Catherine.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: It is even in the rural area, crime and social
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: behaviors out of control and at the time and is
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: something you're going to be done about it in your area.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Fanny Bay crime is out of control.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: We acknowledge it. But as I said about it, money
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: knowledge just quickly, Cadie. When it does get announced, you
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: know someone's been a victim of crime. It's absolutely horrible.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: We all know that, and I don't want to see
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: it happen. We've got to keep working. What police won't
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: do and they I don't want them doing. They have
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: time to do it is every time they catch a
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: single perpetrator to put it out as a media release
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: so that you guys can say, well, look they didn't
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: catch or they did catch them. The reality of it
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is police are catching their perpetrators. They just don't go
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: on publicize.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: This is a.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Concern because it does seem as though the police are
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: actually catching the people that are doing the wrong thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: But then they worry is yeah, and lots.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Of media releases, Well they're actually and you know what,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: like even in recent days there was you know, they've
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: apprehended a heap of people who had been breaking into
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: cars and homes and that kind of thing. But you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the concern, I guess that continues to be raised. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: whether you're talking about somewhere like the CBD with the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: anti social behavior or on Tuesday, I think it was
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I had this blow call through Chris who lives in
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Driver Now. His home got broken into at two thirty
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon. So obviously this is quite separate. It's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: not the issue of anti social behavior. His home got
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: broken in a two thirty in the afternoon, right he
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the security camera at his house, you know, it alerts
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: your phone. So he's then seen somebody going into his
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: home rip the security camera they've got. You can see
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: from the security vision he'd said, two little kids outside
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: ready to take you know what had been stolen, ransacked
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the home. You know, then he's got his little girl
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that doesn't want to obviously sleep in her bed anymore
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: because they've been broken into.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Twice in a few weeks.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: You know, these are the kind of things I think
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that the community is grappling with. And we all understand
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that it's a simple It's not a simple fix. You know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: We've spoken about these issues so many times in here,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: but I've got to say I reckon this unless there
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is some change made in this space. I we're getnamed up.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Like I've said it before, but you end up losing
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: good territory and so they end up leaving town. If
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you don't feel safe in your home, if you're not
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: safe in your castle, it has a big impact.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: That's true. Everyone should be safe in the house. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I can only imagine four kids what it must be
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: like for one of your daughters or your kids don't
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: feel safe to sleep in the bed. It's horrible. But
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I think your points, hud of and valid. It's not
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: an easy fix, and I think legislation changes aren't going
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to you know, they may may have changed they want
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: to bring in the reality is their prisons are full,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: so that the courts are the courts are sentencing people
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: that are breaking the law. The reality of it is
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: it's multigeneration. Though people don't like hearing that, but that's
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the only way we're going to get the change. But
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you know, we do it in other countries when we
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: go over to help them. We need to do it
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: at home.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: But how long does government need to fix it? Intergenerational
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: problems have been in power for twenty odd years and
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: it seems to be getting worse and worse.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Earlier.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Just messaged through actually to just ask can we find
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: out if there are police officers at the night at
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Nightcliff's news station.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: There is so the police apparently that I've been seeing
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: coming and doing all the ace but getting on top
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: of ASP at least in Prap and Funny Bay are
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: based at Nightcliffe and cas Arena. It has been four hours.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Police can.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's a big one, that's for sure.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Police des are the best facilities to workout it. That's
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the reality. But there are police in there and they
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: are getting out. I mean, I could be wrong, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I think I agree with the.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Point you make, and I think if you look at
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: some of the conditions that police working in our remote
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: police stations. You then questioned why such an extraordinary amount
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: of money was spent on a very extravagant police station
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: in Nightcliff, which is about a ten minute drive from
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: the Casarina Police station and a fifteen minute drive from
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the day In one.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: And it's supposed to be twenty four to seven. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: it's lucky if it's open from watchhouses.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: If they've got the two watchhouses now they are there
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: to stop people from transporting around, and now there's only
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: one because that they haven't got enough resources when they've
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: got this multimillion dollar Nightcliff police station sitting there, when
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: you could have the watchhouse hoping.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Well, look, one thing I know for certain is that
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you know, this issue of crime, and certainly the issue
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: of antisocial behavior, it's not going away. I thought to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: myself earlier this week, Oh, do you know what, it's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: been not too bad this week. I haven't had a
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: lot of people get in contact with me about this.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And then I had poor old crushing through with the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: situation where his home had been ransacked, and I thought,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you know what. I understand that there's always going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: be a bit of an element of crime in the territory,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: but it's it's getting exhausting for people. You know, it's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: will less worse than exhausting. I suppose it's I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: know what to say. I think people are just over it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: They just want they want it fixed. We all get
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: that there's going to always be some concerns, but they're
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: over it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I think the reality is okay. The only way to
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: stop it. The immediate short term fix is at the
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: minute they commit the crime, they get apprehended. The long
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: term fix is all the stuff that we're putting in
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: place around remote housing, education, domestic violence, alcohol and access.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: But you know Jared's point, well, what's multigenerational, Well, multi generations,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: not just two decades, it's multiple decades. You know, we're
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: in Afghanistan for two decades and we still didn't get
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the complete outcome we're seeking. It's going to take years
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: and it's going to take continual effort, and that's what
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: our government continue to do.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But we did look at it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Australia talking about I've got to stands a different kettle
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: of fish. But we're talking about darn, we're talking about
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: tour of them, we're talking about businesses, and we're talking
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: about long term territories who you just want to get
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: up and leave because they don't want their kids to
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: see and and social behavior.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be a victim of crime. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: enough's enough.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Well, we're going to take a bit of a break.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: You are listening to mix one oh four nine's three sixty.
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• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It is twenty two minutes away from ten o'clock. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: it is the week that was in the studio. We've
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: got Brent Potter, we've got Matt Cunningham and Jared Maylee
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and well, the CLP Central Council meeting this weekend, isn't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: it Jared, Yes.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: This weekend. It's really good.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: We've got a great opportunity to meet and we're going
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: to select a new candidate on your president. We've got
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: lots of candidates. I understand so well.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I understand at least two. That's a lot for me.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Told his name getting yeah, Day doesn't spitball. He doesn't
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: spitball with no media.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I did text him and say, if you want to spitball,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: with the media. Feel free to come on the show for.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Three candidates, Matt three candidates.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Interesting, the labor had bad, wouldn't you? I've got nothing?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: This is it now? He's quiet, Yeah, And then the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: ALP was last week.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Was the president.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: One thing I can tell you is that having worked
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a lot with Dave obviously on the big issues here
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: in this studio is you never know what Dave's going
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to say or what he's going to do, so.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it's like then politically.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But he is savvy, you know, no matter how you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: put it, and he's incredibly experienced, there is no doubt
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: about that. I like, I always like his political insight.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I think that he provides some great political insight. But
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I think if you're talking about the way that the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: CLP wants to present themselves, I would assume before the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: next election, you'd be more going down the path of
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a fresh new face so to share.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Well, I think so Dave certainly got a lot of experience,
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: and it's probably a place room in a party somewhere,
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: But I'm not sure if president's the one. We need
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: someone who's a new face, who's going to take the
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: COLP in a new direction because I do twenty fourth
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: coming up, and we want to take power and we
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: need to make sure that our wing is ready to go.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And see your petter itself, the party is ready to go.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I understand the labor had theirs last week.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Was there any any fracking motion movie your one?
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, it was gery. We had this discussion.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Reported in the in the Guardian that there was a
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: couple of motions to ban all new on shore gas developments.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I wonder how, I wonder how the beater is
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: going to go.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Then we had a conference in two years, so we
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: need to have a conference post COVID. We've done that,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: We've heard the member base was great turnout. We obviously
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: had a change in president as well, and you know
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: we thank Eron for her time and her commitment.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: New president, new.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: President any event, Sorry you did say that in the break,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but I thought I better let our listeners both acting surprise.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I didn't see the press release coming out.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: No conference, yea, So so Erin is out.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder if well she had had she decided to
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: stand down herself based on that public service wage freeze.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: I don't think so. Yeah, right, but she didn't win.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Is that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Listen. I don't know what her reasons for were for
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: but I can tell you that the ballot came back
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: and did she run?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right. Interesting times, well and very
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: interesting times. I think you'd have to say, Matt, where
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: clearly both political parties starting to get themselves organized. Now
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: what are we two years out? Two years from the election,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: so both starting to get themselves organized for that next
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Northern Territory election.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: And I think it's interesting as well, will be that
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: we've seen the name laws and Broad floated as a
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: potential president for the COLP. The name probably won't mean
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: a lot to your average Joe, but people who followed
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: politics closely, we'll certainly know who Lawson is and they
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: might have a few Labor people concerned because Lawson knows
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: the Bush pretty well and Lawson knows how to win
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: elections in the Bush. So if he was president of
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: the CLP, I reckon twenty twenty four could look pretty interesting.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, you reckon that the Labor Party be worried?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Brent, What do you reckon? You're worry?
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I can choose whoever they want as a president. I
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: think at the end of the day, constituents of vote
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: their local members on the work that they've done. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: can tell you everyone one of our current city members
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: and future members are well connected into the Bush and
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: they've done a lot of hard work. I mean, you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to twenty twenty four for Fanny Baby
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: because by then I've delivered everything and I would have
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: gone out and met everyone and they'll know who I
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: am and I'm you know, I'm sure every other one
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: of our candidates and Currencity members are looking forward to
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: twenty four as well.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So and it's always interesting I think when you talk
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: about some of those roles within political parties, like a
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: lot of people think, oh, well, you know, I don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: really care who the president of a political party is,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But the fact is it does certainly come into play
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: when you then look at how you know, candidates are
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: chosen for the election and how pre selection happens and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I know, the ALP does things
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently to what the CLP does, for example,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: when they're going through that pre selection process, but it
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: is pretty important, and you know, you would have to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: think that you want your party to be working fairly
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: cohesively with your parliamentary arm of course.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I mean from Labor is a big tree with many branches,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: but the one thing we've been is very unified. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: think for the CLP they need to figure out where
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: they want to go for twenty four. There has been
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: some disharmony in there, some significant people leaving that. So
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I'd be interesting to see what happens after
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: the weekend from their Central Council meeting, how Alice Springs
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: and Darwin and how they come together and unify for
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: twenty four. But they have been dysfunctional and lately, so
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to be interest see how that plays out.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure about how functional the Labor Party is
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: with the president getting voted out and protesting in front
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: of the parliament house.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I mean we engage the Union's Jared, I'm a union member.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to go out there, I'm
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: happy to get remembers.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: You go to the protest as I saw last week,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: you can, I'm a union member.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: We did in Parliament, but no one from the CLP
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: was in the in the room.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: We were doing.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Territory and talk on the hospitality and been there before
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: poor parliament started.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I mean we're talking business mate, where you guys are
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: out there just watching, so either sign up and be
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: a member of the Labor Party and the unions.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Well, and of course, the other element from this week,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and while we touched on it is indeed that industrial action.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it feels as though we've spoken about that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the last three or four times in the last month,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: but that does continue on. We know in Catherine that
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: they had some pretty big concerns when it came to
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: housing four teachers in Catherine, that there really isn't a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: huge amount of housing I think, as we already know
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: somewhere like Catherine. I was given an example a bit
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: earlier in the week by Tabby Fudge from NT Cogzo
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: about a teacher who's paying I think four hundred and
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: ninety dollars a week. She'd said, to rent a place
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: in Catherine for a teacher that's, you know, maybe only
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a couple of years out of university, it's certainly pretty
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: tough going. And what I was sort of surprised by
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is I thought that you got a bit of a
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: subsidy for teaching in a place like Catherine when it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: came to your housing or to to your rent relief.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But that's no longer the case.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: So it is for those that currently have it, So
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: there was a history for those that has been grandfathered.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Obviously for those that are new to the area, it isn't.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, if that's one of the things Union wants
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to continue to talk about, I'm sure that the Minister
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and the OCP will continue negotiating good faith with them
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: on that. I mean, the off has been put to
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: a ballot. You know, we'll see the outcome of the
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: majority of the teachers on that very shortly and see
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: where they come to if it's if it's a no
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: or you know, we'll continue to engage in good faith.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: We'll come to a resolution with the teachers as we
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: were on all the eb as. You know, we're we're
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: in a tight position on the budget. We want to
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: get back into the black, but we also want to
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: make sure that those are acknowledged for the hard work
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: they do, and remote education is extremely important. That's what's
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: going to be one of the changes we need to see.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: The other issues we spoke about definitely to.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: The budget back into the black, stop government waste and
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: get rid of the papries.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I love it you say that, Jared, because you're talking
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: about you've been advocating.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: The PAP budget back.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Exactly, we're spending money in them. We need people to
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: spend money. We need our own source revenue to buy house.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Problem public service and has grown so much. If you
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: give the public, if you.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Give them all four or five percent, which they probably deserve,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: you know, still less than inflation. You go the budget
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: to smith the ring.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Literally, government spend. I've heard cut, cut, cut, but never spend, spend, spend.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Well, look, we'll take a very short break. Are listening
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to Mix one O four nine. It is the week
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that was.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: sixty and it is indeed the week that was ten
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: minutes away from ten o'clock and in the studio with
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: us this morning.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Well, if you've just.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Joined us, you've certainly missed out on a crazy how
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I no doubt about it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: With all the bikes in here this morning, Jared, it's the.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Only time that Jared and Brent have agreed this morning
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: is both to say that they're the good looking ones.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Put a pole up on your Facebook.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Well that's going to say I was going to say,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that's well, very it's no doubt about it. But you know, I,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: as a woman wouldn't accept a pole up about whether
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I was good looking or.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Not, So I won't do that for your cloaks. Now
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: where do I go.
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: It only women get criticized and it looks.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Out of control. Now let me go to a listener question.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: We did get a listener question here where are things
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: at with.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: The Bundilla Beach upgrade or where's it going to start?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a good question, Katie, and thanks to listener.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Further for that, listen, We've had a meeting with the
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Olderman at the chain would Olderman two weeks ago I
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: think it was I had with them. First thing we're
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: gonna do is a master plan. So we've been talking
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: about the master plan for a while. We're going to
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: work with counsel, you know, potentially look at how we
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: can fund that to get it going, because what we
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: don't want to do is the elder works that I've
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: committed to not being part of their wider plans. They'll
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: be the first thing, and then next year we'll look
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: at getting turning soil and getting stuff done. That master
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: plan will dictate, you know, what infrastructures lacking so for example,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: we've said we want to put the lights in. We
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: need to figure out where the actual mains are and
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: how we're going to drag it out. But start next
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: year master plan hopefully before the end of the year.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: They've done a few master plans for other places, so
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: that'll be the first one and your listeners will get
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: consultation on that, so there'll be a period of time
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: when they can come back and put what they want.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: There was consultation done in twenty sixteen on vesti Is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: It's very clear on what they don't want, so just
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: making sure we top that up and moving to works
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: next year.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it will be interesting to see how it all looks.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And you know how that all unfolds.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: One of the big security patrols have started, so there
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: was another commitment. The security patrols have started for another
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: twelve months, aren't there there now so you can go
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: to them now.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Of course, one of the other things that we've discussed
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: this briefly last week, but Matt, I know that you've
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: got a bit of detail on this, or I'm hoping
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: that you do. But also we spoke to Tim Watsford
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: yesterday from NT Major Events. I tell you what this NBL, darwentine,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: it's sounding like it's getting pretty serious. Tim reckons that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: he's having some meetings this or next week, I should say,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: with the NBL. And he'd sort of asked how quickly
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: could they get things rolling if able to in Tasma
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: he was told that in Tasmania it was eighteen months.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: So it sort of sounds like things are forging ahead
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: pretty fast.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: I reckon it's going to happen, Katie.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: The blitzer is on starts to know, and it's on
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: for a week, and I think they're using that as
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: a sort of a measure of how much appetite there
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: will be for the game. And I think, you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: from what I can tell, I think several of those
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: nights already pretty much sold out.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: There's some pretty big crowds.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I do have a double pass I think to give
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: away after eleven o'clock this morning, though, there you go.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: With and so yeah, I reckon it's going to happen.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: But the bloke who used to work in the Chief
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Minister's office that have more idea than me. But I
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: think that the discussions, I mean, the NBL seems very
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: keen and I think one of the reasons they're keen
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: is that they want to be able to say that
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: we are the only genuinely national sporting competition in this country.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Because they've got a team in Tazzy, now they put
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: a team in Darwin, they can actually say, well, with
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the exception of Camber, who also want a team, I think,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: but we're the only sporting competition that has a team
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: in every state and territory in the country. You've seen
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: the support for the Salties, you see the support for
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: the Blitz. The support the basketball is huge in.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: The Northern Territory. I mean, I'm not a basketball person.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I had didn't follow basketball at all until my kids
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: started playing it, and they're absolutely obsessed with it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: And I've just.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: And you can tell in this town that the love
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: thousands and thousands of people who just contish in their
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: following of that sport.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: So I think it's it's really got legs up.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I'm no good at shooting a hoop, so I'm not
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: going to do that on camera, but I will go
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: and watch the Blitz this week and where they're Saturday.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I think everyone agrees that we need an NBL team
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: in the territory. It's very clear that the NBLA keen
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and the Blitz is going to be an indicator. So
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: everyone get out by tickets, go and see it, demonstrate when,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: get the numbers and then let's take it forward and
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: no one's standing in the right.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It does seem as well, and please correct me if
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but it does seem as though we could
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: also do it without having to build a whole new facility.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I think the plan and is it The Convention Center
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: for a fairly modest cost could be converted into a
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: basketball stadium during the wet season, and I think that's
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: kind of a perfect solution because in the dry season
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: people are having conferences there and during the wet season
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: you can use it to play basketball and it will
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: be good. That's what they've done in Tazi four and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: a half thousand stadium at the Convention Center, and it's
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: going off down there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: I think the AFL is quite worried about the footprint
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: that basketball is getting in Hobart, because you know, the
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: jack jumpers down there are enormous, and I think you'd
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: see a similar thing here if there was an NBA team.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: You're going to create competition. THEFL then coming completely.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Who knows, well, it's been an interesting or it's been
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a big twenty four hours as well. With sport, we
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: know Roger Federer announced his retirement as well. Hey, end
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of an era, no doubt about that. He certainly seemed
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: like he was one of the good guys. So when
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it comes to sport and some of the brats, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: think that you might say you sometimes see in an
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: individual sport like tennis, but he is a good bloke,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I think it'll be a big change obviously
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: for tennis.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: We're talking about sport. What about the Wallabies game?
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Oh, talk about getting robbed in the last second of
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: the game.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Fastic is it's horrible, isn't it like.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: It's just never good, never good. Well, we are going
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to have to wrap up.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Great to have you all in the studio with us
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: this morning. Jared Mainley, the Deputy Opposition leader, thank you
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: for your time.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham, Sky news bureau chief for the Northern Territory,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: thank you for your time this morning. And Brent Pop
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Member for Fanny Bay.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Good to have you in the studio again.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Thanks, and that is it. For the week.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: That will stick around though, coming your way after ten
• 40:07
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• 40:10
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• 40:12
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• 40:13
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• 40:19
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• 40:19
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• 40:21
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• 40:21
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