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Kris Dehnert Talks Dugout Mugs and BIGG Golf · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  SPSN.
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  Welcome in to this exciting episode of the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is Chris Dennard from Dugout Mugs.
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  Chris, welcome to the show, man.
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  What's up?
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  What's up?
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  What's up?
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  Well, it felt poignant.
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  Right?
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  Pitchers and catchers reporting and baseball season upon us now.
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  The Super Bowl is over.
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  Football can take a rest for a few months before they really fire back up.
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  So wanted to talk some ball, but I also wanted to talk about your company, Dugout Mugs, which
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  is an absolutely incredible product, but really a great, community and brand that you've built.
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  Before we get into all that, though, wanna get a little bit of your backstory and kinda what
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  led you into dugout mugs and everything that you're doing now.
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  Yeah, man.
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  So, dugout mugs, we turn baseball bat barrels, and we hollow them out.
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  We turn them into mugs.
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  Right?
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  Like, what we do is actually quite simple, I think.
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  My backstory so it it goes back you know, my backstory goes back to, like, Gold's Gym,
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  honestly.
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  Like, I back when I got out of school, I realized that college and schooling wasn't
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  really my bag, so I I jumped into, sales.
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  I'm a I love sales.
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  I've been in it my whole life, and I've just I'm good at it.
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  Right?
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  I'm good at connecting with people.
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  And Gold's Gym allowed me to do that, but then I realized I'm just working for the man.
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  Right?
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  Like, working making somebody else's dream come to life, and that's when I started rolling out,
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  different ventures.
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  You know, Dugout Mugs is actually my ninth company.
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  Everything I do tends to be in a field that I enjoy.
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  You know, beer, baseball, golf, cigars, you know, fitness, celebrity endorsement and
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  promotion and PR.
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  And, like, I it's just where I live, man.
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  I I like it.
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  So, you know, the whole, played out cliche of, you know, do something you love.
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  You'll never work a day in your life.
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  Like, that's kinda my goal.
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  That's kinda what I'm shooting for.
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  Yep.
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  Absolutely love it.
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  A serial entrepreneur, I found myself in that on a much, less successful, plane.
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  I've always been in the music business.
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  That's what I love.
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  And music doesn't necessarily pay the bills all the time, but I've built a brand off of our,
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  you know, addiction to independent music.
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  Right?
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  Like, I just like finding new bands and being finding people that you would never hear of,
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  And that's led me to, you know, the last two years of my life building out this podcast
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  brand and now a network.
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  But just like you said, like, I have different interests.
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  That's how we started the scene project.
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  Sports Network is like, I wanna do other stuff too.
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  And this very quickly led to, you know, PGA tour events and, PRCA events, talking with some
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  of the biggest champions in the world.
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  Rocker Steiner has been on our show.
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  He's the number one bareback rider in the world, setting the world on fire with a new TV
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  show.
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  I got to interview Chris Carter and Ronda Barber, at a presser because there's just not a
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  lot of media in South Dakota where I live anyway.
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  So very fortunate to land in that.
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  You kinda find the things that, you're passionate about and dig into those.
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  And I think if you remain passionate about it, you're gonna find a way.
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  It's very easy to drop off as a salesperson working for somebody else.
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  And, before you know it, you you just don't have that love of it.
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  Like, a love of money only goes so far.
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  Yeah.
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  And and, you know, I've said it a million times.
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  I've, you know, I've said it once, and, it's not the only currency.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, experiential living.
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  You know, at the end of your life, you got a bunch of stories.
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  That's all you got.
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  And one of my favorite movies was big fish.
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  I don't know.
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  You remember that movie?
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  I bet you that movie.
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  Yeah.
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  You know?
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  And at the end of your life, you just got a bunch of stories, and, you know, they'll get
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  embellished, and they'll it's fun.
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  Like, you're only here for a second, man.
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  Like, have some fun with the shit.
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  Like, that's what it is.
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  Just have some fun with it.
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  Well and what a great angle for you with dugout mugs to have it.
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  I mean, you mentioned Ron DeSantis.
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  I'm a huge Cubs fan, so that one's obviously close to my heart.
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  But all these celebrities and Matt, these champions, right, that you've gotten to be with
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  because the product that you make fits into their lives.
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  Right?
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  And and not that you haven't had that with maybe some of your other companies as well, but
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  this one feels uniquely poised to give you those experiences over and over and over again
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  at Infinitum.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, every mug behind me is, somebody I've collaborated with.
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  Right?
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  And this is a cool reminder for me that, like, we've kinda done something pretty cool.
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  And then and the celebrity and and athlete endorsement and stuff that we get, it's unpaid.
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  You know?
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  Like, there's only of the hundreds, there's maybe two or three that I paid, and it was
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  strategic from a marketing perspective.
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  At the end of the day, like, we make really high end premium cool ass gifts.
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  And and, you know, like, they what do you get somebody that can get anything they want?
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  Right?
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  And and when they're buying houses, I've gotten calls from MLB guys that got our mugs as a
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  closing gift when they bought a house.
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  Or, our governor here in Florida, he gives out our mugs every year at the spring training
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  launch.
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  When when owners are buying teams, the Coen's when they got the Mets, their gift was, from a
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  friend was a a set of our mugs that he displays in his living room.
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  You know?
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  I I the other day, I was watching this clip where the guy I'm a big I like baseball cards
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  and collectibles.
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  You know?
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  I'm a big fan of that.
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  And the the golden auctions, the thing on Netflix that you whatever that that show is
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  called, they're interviewing the guy with the most valuable baseball card collection on
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  Earth, you know, that meant Babe Ruth worth 50,000,000 or whatever crazy number it was.
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  And on his back shelf, there's a dugout mug.
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  Right?
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  That has the vast the baddest collection on earth put away, has one of my mugs on his debt.
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  He owns one of the MLB teams.
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  Right?
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  It's on his back shelf, and it's just like, wow, man.
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  I've this our stuff's popped up on TV.
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  It's popped up on just it's just cool.
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  It's just cool, man, to to see what we've built, and, you know, and and where, like you
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  said, where it's gone and and where we can take it.
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  And, you know, in a lot of ways, we're just getting started.
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  You know, we've we've sold a lot of mugs.
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  You know, our numbers are nice, but, yeah, there's a lot to it, man.
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  There there's a lot to it.
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  A lot of fulfillment to it is, I guess, what I mean.
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  There's lot of fulfillment that comes from this particular business, that is that is not
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  monetary.
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  Well and because a lot of these are given as gifts, right, I would say probably 85% or maybe
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  even more than that are, like, the joy.
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  And we talked about that a little bit before we jumped on is that, like, your gift is joy.
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  Your product is joy.
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  And, like, that's really cool to make a physical product that can be completely
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  customized for people that then it sits in there on their mantle.
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  Right?
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  Whether they got a bunch of trophies or not, you know, that becomes something that's really
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  important to them.
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  And it's not just a product to have a beer out of.
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  Right?
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  Like, it's more than that.
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  Although you could, it's nice to have a trophy you can pull down and have a beer out of.
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  Right?
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  I mean, they're not we can't all hoist the Stanley Cup or
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I get it.
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  Well, corporate gifting has actually been a vertical that's been exciting for us.
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  Kors and Miller and Corona and Hard Rock and Celsius and YamaVa and Fox Sports.
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  They buy our mugs as gifts for employee recognition or, you know, client recognition.
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  And I think that is that has been really, eye opening.
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  I didn't realize that that particular space was so depleted of quality products.
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  Right?
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  So the corporate gifting side of things has been kinda fun.
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  Same same thing.
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  It's like, this is something people will put on a desk.
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  Maybe they use it as a pen holder.
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  I don't know.
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  Right?
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  Don't care.
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  Right?
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  Like, at the end of the day, it's it's something cool, fun, and unique.
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  It's a talking point.
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  It's it's great to pull out of your pocket, literally out of your back pocket, out of
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  tailgate.
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  You know?
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  And our mission our mission statement for the company is we celebrate and serve the heroes of
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  the baseball community by creating uniquely fun gifts that bring people closer to the game they
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  love.
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  That's what we do.
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  Right?
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  And and, you know, we don't like, the whole we don't sell mugs.
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  We sell memories.
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  Right?
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  So we can take grandpa Jack and at the Cubs World Series and with his three grandkids, and
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  we we laser that onto a mug, and and it's enshrined forever.
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  Right?
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  And even after he's long gone, it it's just cool.
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  It's it's cool, the versatility of it.
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  And truthfully, it's just a blank canvas.
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  Right?
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  So we can put anything we want on there, which makes it like, this actually is one of my
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  favorites.
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  I was just talking to somebody.
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  So the sand lot, we we took and we engraved.
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  So my buddy wrote, narrated, and directed the movie.
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  So we put and this is all laser engraved right into the mud.
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  That's incredible, man.
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  That's just the technology on these CNC machines, these lasers.
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  And I I come from the welding world.
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  I I was a welder for five years, you know, worked in a factory.
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  Worked around a lot of the same kind of machines, different scales, right, than what
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  we're using, but I love the craftsmanship and the manufacturing side of that.
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  So I guess talk a little bit about that from, like, just starting out, maybe one machine and
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  a few guys in a factory to what where you're at now.
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  I know you just had a move, recently.
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  You're probably still unpacking boxes.
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  Yeah.
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  So where it all started, my my, cofounder and partner, ex partner now, Randall, he was, just
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  sitting in a dugout, and he was a coach at his alma mater after he got cut from he was in the
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  minor league system.
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  And he got cut, and he's like, I wanna need to figure something out.
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  And and he was sitting in there.
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  Somebody was cutting bats in half and turning it into a hitting drill, and the barrels are
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  rolling around in a dugout.
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  So, I mean, from the very beginning, there was, like, five bats cut in half.
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  And he's like, oh, I wonder if I can drill this all the way out and drink from it.
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  You know, Really unique guy.
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  And and
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  As everyone would think when they see a, you know, half of a barrel rolling around the
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  dugout.
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  If you met Randy, you get it.
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  That's just how his brain worked.
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  And and, and, you know, I remember I still have photos of prior to me when he was inventing the
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  idea of a a a chop saw screwed into his countertop in his, studio in his sister's
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  backyard.
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  Right?
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  And then our first our our first warehouse was, you know, this just crap hole, 800 square feet
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  with, like, spiders in the corner.
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  I have those pictures.
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  You know?
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  I I I capture it's a story.
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  Right?
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  We're a story.
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  And, you know, where we started and, you know, now we've we've eclipsed $60,000,000 in mug
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  sales, which is a wild number considering how niche we are.
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  So, you know, now we're in an 8,000 square foot facility.
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  Four UV printers, we probably got 15 or 16 lasers.
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  We got a full team in there.
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  And like I said, we're 8,000 square feet.
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  We just moved into our new spot a few weeks ago because, you know, part of the the development
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  of the company is is is creating new products.
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  I have a golf company as well, Big Golf, so I was able to bring that in house, leveraging the
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  same amazing team that I have, the same amazing equipment that I have to just do you know, the
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  whole idea of do more with same.
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  Right?
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  And that's kinda what I've been trying to figure out with our our my demographic.
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  Who are they?
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  Right?
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  What do they want?
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  Why do they want it?
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  And and the more data we derive from the questions we were asking allowed us to build
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  strategically.
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  And, you know, one of our more recent successes was the baseball board game.
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  Right?
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  If a a 42 year old woman is the number one buyer of our product, well, she probably has
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  kids, probably has you know, probably wants them the the hell off of their devices.
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  Right?
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  So this, oh, maybe a board game or travel.
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  You can play it in the car.
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  You can do stuff like that.
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  And, you know, nearly, nearly $400,000 in in sales of board games.
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  Right?
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  It's not a bat mug, but it's made in America.
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  It's solid wood.
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  It's, you know you know, it's the the the heart of the game, the quality, all the things that
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  we are, that we actually are.
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  Right?
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  And and so the extra space is gonna help us kinda continue to develop some new things and
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  some new ideas.
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  Yeah.
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  It's almost becoming dugout collectibles, right, more than just mugs.
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  It's becoming a whole brand of more products.
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  Right?
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  The mugs were a great launch and a great way to, enter the market, but the more you dig in
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  and, like you said, collecting the data, and I think that's something that a lot of people
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  would miss out on, that were just, like, creators.
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  Right?
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  People that were just coming in were creating the mugs and didn't necessarily take this high
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  level business approach that you really bring in being a serial entrepreneur, this being your
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  ninth company where you're like, no.
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  Well, I mean, what else could we sell to the people that are already customers and learning
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  how to maximize, you know, value in that instead of I mean, the cost to acquire new
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  customers is always more than selling to the ones that
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  currently have.
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  And it's going up.
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  Right?
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  And I think we're in an economy now, especially with ecommerce, where there's a lot of scammers
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  and there's a lot of, you know, pop up random stuff going on.
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  So if we built something where people know us, love us, trust us, it's not like, what else can
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  I sell them?
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  It's like, what else do they want, and can we provide it?
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  Right?
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  It's it's a it's it's a very mutually beneficial relationship.
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  Right?
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  We get to grow the business, and we get to be a solid decade old resource, and they know
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  they're gonna get quality.
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  They know they're gonna get customer service.
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  They know they're gonna get access to us.
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  You know, the it's it's like I said, it's very, symbiotic.
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  Yeah.
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  And for as much business as you guys do, still a relatively small company at that where you
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  can provide those things to your customers.
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  And building a brand, of the expectation of the quality, I think is so important, and a lot of,
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  you know, business owners and, you know, just people in general kind of miss the point on.
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  Just be good people.
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  I think that sells very well.
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  It you don't have to if you're always transparent and you're always, you know, can if
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  you're only concerned with what's in it for you.
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  Right?
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  Like, the it things get pretty slippery.
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  So I we've always kinda tried to understand our community and and bring them things that
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  support them.
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  It it it it's a, can we make something that represents them?
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  It's you know what I mean?
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  Like, that's kind of the the idea.
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  And so we've we put out products before, and they just weren't quality, dude.
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  And we we shut them down, and we just ate it.
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  We ate the yeah.
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  I'm not gonna put that crap out there with my name on it, period.
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  Even with the golf company.
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  Golf's an extremely saturated sport.
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  And, you know, I got I have a golf ball line.
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  And, you know, the golf ball line the golf ball world is is saturated, you know, and there's a
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  few major players.
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  We all know who they are.
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  So breaking into that, you know, everybody's expecting everybody to be subpar.
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  So I did testing.
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  I did, Trackman swing test, robo arms.
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  I put it in the hands of some pro athletes and let them go play.
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  Now they're not gonna get off their pro v one or Bridgestone or whatever they play, but
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  they're like, dude, this ball plays.
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  It it's a solid consistent ball.
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  I was like, alright.
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  Cool.
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  I'll put my name on that.
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  And I think that's how that that, growing a little slower and and growing with that
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  mindset, I think, is a a good combination.
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  Yeah.
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  Well and at the end of the day, they're not your consumer.
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  Right?
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  To have their endorsement and to have their, you know, kind of thumbs up of approval on it
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  means something because then you can use that to market to who is your market, who are the
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  people that you're already selling mugs to, and that are buying these products.
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  So, yeah, I love how that goes together.
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  What's kind of the future of Big Golf?
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  I I know that Dugout Mugs is a very established brand, but Big Golf is relatively new in the
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  space and breaking out there.
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  What does the future of that look like as we move into a a busy golf season?
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  Well, I think I think big golf, I don't wanna say it's been shelved, but it's been it's been
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  just on simmer for a minute.
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  Because, like I said, you know, a couple years ago, my partner, wanted to retire retire from
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  this business and, you know, go on and, you know, start his family and his home and his new
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  ventures, and he's he's an inventor.
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  Right?
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  So he needed to move on.
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  And and when that happened, there was a lot of fixing to do and a lot of restructuring.
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  And so Big Golf kinda took a backseat on that.
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  But, ultimately, I I needed to bring it into that.
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  I needed to bring it into dugout.
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  Right?
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  So so the team, our logistics team is incredible.
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  Our fulfillment team is incredible.
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  Our quality control team is incredible.
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  So when we when we do start to throttle it because currently, it has it has no employees.
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  It has nothing.
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  Right?
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  We do a lot of print on demand golf balls.
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  So I work with, you know, Mariano Rare and Pudge and pop Big Poppy and guys like this.
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  So when they do their golf tournaments, they're like, oh, hey.
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  I need a couple 100 dozen golf balls with our logo on it.
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  No problem.
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  My guy can rip that out in a week.
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  Right?
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  And and I think that that I think the future of big golf is going to be the personalization
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  space, the ability to customize and do logos.
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  And and, you know, if you said, oh, hey, man.
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  I got my logo, and I got an event in two weeks.
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  Can you get me 10 cases of golf balls?
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  I'm like, yeah.
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  We can do that.
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  Right?
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  So it's been a great add on, but I think when it's a stand alone, I think the the,
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  personalization component of it's pretty solid.
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  And the you know, we make a couple novelty products.
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  Right?
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  We have golf balls turned into bottle openers and golf balls turned into cigar holders.
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  And and so it's just unique items that bring people into our ecosystem.
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  And and, you know, I'm a golfer.
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  I presume you're a golfer.
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  And, like, you know, 95 and that's being you know, that's probably low balling it.
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  The there's they suck.
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  Right?
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  Like, you wanna you want a good quality golf ball that that'll get you distance and that
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  that if you hit it in the woods, you're not pissed.
• 18:54
  Right?
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  So we have a we have a a solid quality, low priced golf ball.
• 18:58
  Right?
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  So the it's a consumable, not edible, but it's a consumable.
• 19:02
  Right?
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  You lose them.
• 19:02
  Yeah.
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  Every time you play, you lose some.
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  And and I think that right there is really where we're gonna find a sweet spot is our
• 19:09
  ability to turn product quick that's still quality, that's still low priced, that's
• 19:13
  customizable if you want it for, like, groomsmen gifts and things like that.
• 19:16
  Because the the novelty gift market is something that we've learned a lot about with
• 19:21
  dugout mugs.
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  So we're taking that that information and that data, and we're trying to figure out, like, we
• 19:27
  originally talked about.
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  What what else can we do?
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  And, you know, there's a bigger vision, that I've that I'm hoping to roll out this year that
• 19:35
  encompasses all of it.
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  It's gonna have big golf, and it's gonna have dugout mugs under it.
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  And it's gonna have hockey, and it's gonna have football, and it's gonna have, you know, all
• 19:45
  these other these other things.
• 19:47
  But it's gonna be a novelty gift gift shop for the most part, not sports centric.
• 19:52
  Right.
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  Because the machines you have can do the work on anything.
• 19:56
  It's not specific to a single Right.
• 19:59
  Material.
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  That's the machines.
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  I I feel like our real asset is our team.
• 20:03
  Right?
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  The the the the people that I have in place, Eric and Jared and George and and and Tina and
• 20:10
  Brian and Tony, like, what they they're they're fantastic.
• 20:14
  Right?
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  What they can do is is duplicatable in other ventures.
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  They don't care what they're putting in the box.
• 20:20
  Right?
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  I just know that they're gonna get it 99.9% of the time.
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  It's dead accurate.
• 20:25
  Right?
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  So I I think our real asset is our team.
• 20:28
  They've all been with me for several years, in the company.
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  And and that's that's why I feel comfortable bringing other things into our ecosystem is
• 20:38
  because I know what what my team can do.
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  You're not hiring Johnny off the street to come in and to do this.
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  It's a it's close knit.
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  I I would assume you consider these people family to you.
• 20:51
  Yep.
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  I mean
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  and look at the
• 20:53
  products that they get to put in the box.
• 20:55
  Right?
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  I mean, that's something to be proud of.
• 20:57
  You're not just manufacturing the same thing as someone who worked in a factory and just did
• 21:02
  it.
• 21:02
  There wasn't a whole lot of pride into just sorting out this this same little part all day
• 21:07
  that's going on to something.
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  You're literally making pieces of art that are going on the mantle in people's homes.
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  That's something to be proud of, and I think that's something in the business world that's
• 21:17
  missed.
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  That's probably why you are, you know, the person and the entrepreneur that you are and
• 21:23
  why Dog Out Mugs has been so successful because you understand that.
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  And and you're not in this as just a paycheck.
• 21:30
  Yes.
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  The business has to grow and make money, but you understand the the emotional human element
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  of what it is.
• 21:38
  Well, that's I mean, what isn't?
• 21:41
  I mean, outside of AI, right, like, we're people we're people doing business with people.
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  Every day, people are waking up.
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  They're going on about their human lives.
• 21:48
  Right?
• 21:49
  Like, when when we stop being human about it, I think that's when, you know, things can go
• 21:54
  sideways.
• 21:55
  Yeah.
• 21:56
  Well, Chris, looking forward to continuing to work with you guys.
• 21:59
  I would love to have a set of big balls that I can shank into the woods, this summer that says
• 22:05
  this is Bubba's ball so they know where to return it to.
• 22:08
  You know, a lot of these people out there play in the same course all summer long.
• 22:12
  It's a good ribbing opportunity, right, to say, oh, found another one of Jimmy's balls in the
• 22:18
  freaking creek.
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  You know?
• 22:20
  Yeah.
• 22:20
  Well, I and, again, with corporate gifting, same kind of thing.
• 22:23
  It's like, you know, I I remember, you you'll get a kick out of this.
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  Yeah.
• 22:28
  So Warren Sapp.
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  I know Warren.
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  And I texted him.
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  I said, hey.
• 22:31
  I wanna put your face on my balls just to see what he said.
• 22:35
  And then and then, obviously, quickly, I I showed him a photo of of his face with, a
• 22:40
  mohawk and a crazy look in his eyes.
• 22:42
  You know, that old crazy Warren Sapp look when he was playing.
• 22:44
  Like
• 22:45
  Yeah.
• 22:45
  You better have the follow-up to that loaded before Ready
• 22:49
  to just, like, $1.02, 3¢.
• 22:51
  But but, anyway, the the, you know, the corporate gifting side and the customization of
• 22:55
  it, it's fun.
• 22:56
  Right?
• 22:57
  It it's it's fun.
• 22:58
  We've we've done American flag like, some of my favorites are just like American flags, freedom
• 23:03
  flags, stuff like that.
• 23:05
  Just you know, the the things that are in our life on a daily basis, they need to speak for
• 23:11
  us.
• 23:12
  Right?
• 23:12
  They they need to be they they're every every little micro the flags behind you.
• 23:16
  The flags behind me.
• 23:18
  Right?
• 23:18
  The the every little thing around us typically says something about us.
• 23:24
  Right?
• 23:24
  And I think that's what people enjoy.
• 23:27
  You know, it's a really noisy world, and and and you don't wanna, like you know, not virtue
• 23:31
  signaling and all this crap.
• 23:32
  But, like, but just, like, little nuance things around us that that that's talk about who we
• 23:37
  are and how and what we're represented.
• 23:38
  And I think that's why dugout mugs with the, personalization, the custom things that we can
• 23:44
  do with that, and big golf as well.
• 23:46
  And and you know what?
• 23:48
  But at the end of the day, I I do the things I like to do.
• 23:53
  And even on bad days because there's bad days, you know, mentally, financially, all the
• 23:59
  things.
• 23:59
  I I could have a bad day with good people, and it's still a good day.
• 24:05
  Right?
• 24:06
  And and that's kinda what we're doing is it we're in, an industry that we enjoy.
• 24:10
  We're around people that we enjoy, and, it just it just makes for a just a good vibe, man.
• 24:18
  That's as it's as simple as that.
• 24:19
  It just puts a good it's a good vibe.
• 24:22
  Awesome, Chris.
• 24:23
  Well, tell everybody where they can find Dugout and Big Golf, and, I'll I'll let you get out of
• 24:29
  here.
• 24:30
  Yeah.
• 24:31
  Big Golf is we do the golf ball lines, a couple novelty products.
• 24:34
  That's biggolf.com.
• 24:36
  And dugout mugs, you find us everywhere.
• 24:38
  You know, we're on all the major social platforms.
• 24:40
  We probably have a few million followers by now, which is wild.
• 24:44
  We're on whatnot.
• 24:45
  We're selling on whatnot.
• 24:46
  I just started doing the live selling.
• 24:47
  I'm really enjoying that.
• 24:49
  But dugoutmugs.com is where you can get anything custom.
• 24:53
  And, yeah, and the and the only social platform I use publicly is LinkedIn.
• 24:56
  So, you know, if anybody's on LinkedIn, feel free to connect with me over there.
• 25:00
  We do custom projects.
• 25:02
  We do all kinds of stuff.
• 25:03
  You know?
• 25:03
  Like I said, if if it's a good vibe and it's a good company and you and you're good people,
• 25:07
  folks tend to gravitate to that.
• 25:09
  You know?
• 25:11
  Love it, man.
• 25:11
  Well, Chris, thank you so much for spending some time with me this morning, and thank you
• 25:15
  for being part of the scene.
• 25:17
  Absolutely.
• 25:25
  SPSN.