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SMNTY Classics: SMNTY Plays Wayhaven · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And for today I thought we would go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: bring back our classic we did on a book one
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  Speaker 2: of the way Haven Chronicles, which will probably help you
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  Speaker 2: understand our recent book club we did on two and
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  Speaker 2: three of the way Haven Chronicles. Maybe not, but I
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  Speaker 2: feel like our listener Amanda, had a great rundown of it,
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  Speaker 2: a great explanation, and it was really fun.
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  Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I enjoyed coming back to it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing again, So yes, please enjoy this classic episode.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to step never told any production of iHeartRadio,
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: and today we are doing a revisit that we're very
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  Speaker 2: excited about. Yes, because recently on a Monday Mini you
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Samantha were talking about how you'd really gotten into these
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: Choose your Own Adventure phone games.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, kind of like it's called Choices AH by Pixelberry,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, you determine like the characters and what you do.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about the problematic things, but how much I'm
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  Speaker 1: enjoying it, and I am still on it and I'm
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  Speaker 1: still a bit obsessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we in that episode you were talking about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of the binary problems that might arise
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  Speaker 2: and some of these more misogynistic are things like that
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  Speaker 2: that might arise. But when you were talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: I remembered that we had a listener who wrote in
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  Speaker 2: I think a year ago, named Amanda, who was like,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to play Way Haven Way Haven Chronicles because it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, got vampires, it's got supernatural elements, it's got romance,
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  Speaker 2: all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I had downloaded it then.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was like, yes, I would love to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and then I never played it because I got distracted.
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  Speaker 2: But this restarted the memory and we Samantha and I
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  Speaker 2: have now played the first book.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I got through it much faster than you.
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  Speaker 1: Why can make because you are two weeks ahead of me?
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: And I was like, how did I get faster than you?
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, when I get caught up something in something,
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  Speaker 1: I get caught up in something. I am a being
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  Speaker 1: person for sure. So I finished it within a day.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, wait, you've been on that one
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  Speaker 1: decision for a week.
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  Speaker 3: What I can't wait to talk about that? It was
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  Speaker 3: so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I was just deliberating back, I was like sending people
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  Speaker 2: who had no idea what I was talking about. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, here are the plus and minuses of going
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  Speaker 2: with those persons. What it took me forever to make
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  Speaker 2: the decision. And I like that you had a prediction.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back and talk about it about like who
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  Speaker 2: I should have done.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I assumed that it would be a specific person.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, you didn't not at all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yes, Oh we're going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: So this is going to be sort of a lighter,
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  Speaker 2: more fun episode where we talk about our experiences. But
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  Speaker 2: also we reached out to a listener, Amanda again, and
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  Speaker 2: we just asked, like, what was your experience, what did
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  Speaker 2: you like about it? Can you send us just some
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  Speaker 2: general things that you really enjoyed about the game and
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  Speaker 2: your experience with the game, And Amanda delivered and sent
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  Speaker 2: us an audio file and all of these questions. So, Amanda, one,
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  Speaker 2: you're amazing. If you're listening to you, you are essentially
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  Speaker 2: interviewing us. In this episode, you were the interviewer because
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  Speaker 2: we're going to give our answers to.
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  Speaker 3: The questions that you wrote out. Yeah, yes, you're a hero.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to our attention. We enjoyed this very much.
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  Speaker 1: Your answers were amazing. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I think this is going to be fun and
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to compare our statistics because essentially, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you choose, you get a lot of options, and you
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  Speaker 2: choose something, and then that at the end or at
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  Speaker 2: any time, you can check and see if like you're
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  Speaker 2: more charming or more intimidating and all of these things,
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  Speaker 2: and your statistics based on the choices that you made.
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  Speaker 2: So at the end, Samantha and I are going to
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  Speaker 2: compare that, and I think it'll be very, very funny. Yes,
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: but yes, before we get into that, for anyone who's listening,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, what are you talking about? The way
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  Speaker 2: Even Chronicles are a choose your own adventure game that
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  Speaker 2: you can play on multiple platforms including Steam by Mishka Jenkins.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the description from the Choice of Games website.
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  Speaker 2: Your first case as a detective is forcing you to
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  Speaker 2: open your eyes to a world bigger than you thought,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe it's better to keep them closed. Knowing too
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: much doesn't help anyone sleep at night. Seems that Supernatural
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  Speaker 2: didn't get the memo that nothing exciting ever happens in
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  Speaker 2: the little town of way Haven. The way Haven Chronicles,
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  Speaker 2: Book one is a thrilling four hundred and forty thousand
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  Speaker 2: word interactive fantasy novel by Mishka Jenkins where your choices
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  Speaker 2: control the story. It's entirely text based, without graphics or
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  Speaker 2: sound effects, and fueled by the vast, unsuppable power of
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  Speaker 2: your imagination. I did have very specific images in mind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this, like what did you think?
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  Speaker 1: What did you see versus what I saw? We saw
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  Speaker 1: two very specific different things.
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  Speaker 3: If we did, we did. Indeed.
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  Speaker 2: The description continues experience the big and small moments with
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  Speaker 2: a host of characters throughout this exciting twist on the
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  Speaker 2: usual supernatural tale, a story which will take you through
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  Speaker 2: heart pounding romance, smile filled friendships, and shiver inducing drama.
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  Speaker 2: Play as female, male, or non binary, with options to
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  Speaker 2: be straight, gay, or bisexual. Discover the start of distinct
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  Speaker 2: and lasting romances with the vampires of Unit Bravo spoiler,
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  Speaker 2: Define and refine relationships with a variety of characters from friends, family, exes,
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  Speaker 2: and enemies. Decide how you will fulfill the job up
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  Speaker 2: detective through deduction, combat science, or people skills, discover the
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  Speaker 2: truth of what awaits in we Haven in a play
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  Speaker 2: style that suits your personality, indulged in true moments of romance, friendship, drama.
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  Speaker 3: And fun fun. I love it so yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I had to describe it, I would
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  Speaker 2: say it is a shifting POV. But primarily you are
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  Speaker 2: playing this from the point of view of a detective.
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  Speaker 3: I named mine Kira Kingston.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I was.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we both chose Kira, so it was like four
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  Speaker 2: or five names you could choose. I went with Kia Kingston,
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  Speaker 2: who is started as detective in this small town of
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  Speaker 2: way Haven, where sounds like not a lot happens in general,
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  Speaker 2: but of course when you first start, suddenly there.
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  Speaker 1: Are murders, bodies are dropping.
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  Speaker 2: And you're not sure what's going on. And then your mother,
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  Speaker 2: who you can change the relationship with the mother. You
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  Speaker 2: can also shape of whether she's kind of estranged or
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  Speaker 2: whether you're close. But it sounds like she's really busy
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  Speaker 2: and you don't see that much. Comes in and she's
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  Speaker 2: got this you know, Unit Bravo from this kind of
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  Speaker 2: secretive government agency.
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  Speaker 3: And yes they're all vampires. Yeah, well, this group is
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  Speaker 3: this particular group. Samantha is giving me a very meaningful look.
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  Speaker 1: I just say it.
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  Speaker 3: And I did have a lot of fun playing it.
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  Speaker 2: I was funny how much I got so caught up
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  Speaker 2: in But what if it's the wrong decision?
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  Speaker 1: And I contemplated a decision for days.
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  Speaker 2: For days, and I would also I would I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if you felt this, Samantha, But I would get torn
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  Speaker 2: between like this is what I would actually do and
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  Speaker 2: this is what I hope I would do right. And
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  Speaker 2: I would try to be truthful to what I think
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  Speaker 2: I would do, even if sometimes I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: probably do that, And that's.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the fun. It's like doing what you think
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  Speaker 1: you should do and seeing what would happen. I actually
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of incidents, and it may have just
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  Speaker 1: been me on the phone where a couple of decisions
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  Speaker 1: were taken out of my hands. It would just bypass.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I didn't make that decision. So
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  Speaker 1: I had like three or four times, I think, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, how did that happen? It's I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that might if something goes wrong, if there's
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  Speaker 1: a way to play this wrong, that's what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna blame it on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is because those affect those choices affect you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, clearly, I guess we should have said not a
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  Speaker 2: sponsor currently by any of this.
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  Speaker 3: We just wanted to talk about it because we had
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  Speaker 3: a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, game sponsors best fiends and yes, I
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  Speaker 1: still play that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk about that again.
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  Speaker 2: In our ad experience. If you haven't heard it, listeners,
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  Speaker 2: Samantha gets real real, come.
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  Speaker 1: On, this is how Nemesis.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: And Amanda was kind enough to answer these questions in
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  Speaker 2: written format, but also to Senda's an audio file about
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  Speaker 2: why she really enjoyed way Haven and a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about her experience with it.
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  Speaker 3: So we thought we'd play that.
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  Speaker 4: What can I say about the way Haven Chronicles, Well,
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  Speaker 4: first and foremost, it's a supernatural murder mystery with vampire
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  Speaker 4: love interest, so it didn't take much to sell me.
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  Speaker 4: I've been playing many of these text based Choose yourn
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  Speaker 4: adventure stories for some time, and a big draw has
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: always been choosing a gender and sexuality that matches my
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: own and having reflected in the game. But what really
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: makes the way Haven Chronicles stand out is just how
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  Speaker 4: well written and plotted out. The character, arts and story
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  Speaker 4: are the love interest in particular for you, Bravo has
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  Speaker 4: such distinct person that fit all sorts of romantic tropes.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: Do you love slow burns with yearning? Av Adam is
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  Speaker 4: your best bet? Do you love falling in love with
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  Speaker 4: your best friend far or Felix? What about the angsty
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  Speaker 4: rebel pretends to hate everyone but has a secret soft
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  Speaker 4: side Morgan or Mason, And of course the person who
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  Speaker 4: almost seems too good to be true, but who may
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  Speaker 4: actually have a secret.
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  Speaker 3: Hid in a way natally your name.
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  Speaker 4: Each of these interactions is so unique and varies depending
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  Speaker 4: on who you decide to ultimately romance, if anyone, which
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  Speaker 4: is another fantastic bonus. You don't have to romance anyone
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  Speaker 4: if you decide that's not your thing. Determining who will
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  Speaker 4: be your best friend was just as interesting to me
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  Speaker 4: as any potential budding romance, especially because of reprize you
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  Speaker 4: to be kind and mesh with them. Not just anyone
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  Speaker 4: will be able to match av Adam's gruff, no nonsense attitude.
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  Speaker 4: This is in part due to the choices helping you
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  Speaker 4: frame the detective personality, your surroundings and character interactions, providing
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to reflect yourself within the character, even the
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  Speaker 4: little details, which as whether you drink coffee or tea
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: and what about with a pastry? You always got to
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: get it with a pastry. Whether you're detective is a
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  Speaker 4: direct carbon copy of yourself, which fulfillment or neither. It
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  Speaker 4: is not a fun experiment trying the different personality combinations.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy in many.
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  Speaker 4: Games to play as a snarky a hole without any
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  Speaker 4: repercussions or anyone taking notice. But I love how in
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  Speaker 4: this game that truly dictates how the other characters will
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  Speaker 4: address you and follow through in the later books. My
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  Speaker 4: last point I will say about the series and why
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  Speaker 4: I love it is again focus on how the story
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  Speaker 4: draws you in with these elements and delivers a really
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  Speaker 4: compelling narrative that truly does change with each playthrough, depend
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  Speaker 4: on how you equip your detective socially and with different skills.
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  Speaker 4: With no spoilers, I've never had two runs to be
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  Speaker 4: the same and can make it feel like an action,
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  Speaker 4: romantic comedy or a thriller with a doomed romance, all
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  Speaker 4: depending on these choices, and I think that's why even
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  Speaker 4: after four years, I'm still replaying and eagerly awaiting the
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  Speaker 4: third book.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you Amanda for sending that in and
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  Speaker 3: for writing out these questions also, which we're gonna use throughout.
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  Speaker 3: We really really appreciate it. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to go through and read Amanda's experience,
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  Speaker 2: and then we're going to give our own experiences based
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  Speaker 2: on what we experienced. I'm saying I'll experience a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but based on what we chose and all the deliberations,
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: the deliberations and what happened. I'm very curious to see
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: if there were some differences in what happened because I've
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: only played it once, so I don't know if it
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: can shift or if the ending is kind of set.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like you can get multiple endings.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: We play it just to see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Both downloaded the second one, but we haven't started it yet, but.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe a redo revisit.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess Smith and I already kind of answered
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  Speaker 2: this one, but Amanda wrote, what can I say about
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  Speaker 2: the way Haven chronicles, Well, first and foremost, it's a
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: supernatural murder mystery with vampire love interest, So it didn't
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: take much to sell me. I had been playing many
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: of these text based choose your own adventure stories for
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: some time, and a big draw has always been choosing
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: a gender and sexuality that matches my own and having
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: it reflected in the game. But what makes the Waven
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: chronicles stand out is just how well written and plotted
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: out the character arcs and story are. The love interest,
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: in particular for Unit Bravo, have such distinct personalities that
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: it fits specific tropes. Do you love slow burns with yearning?
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Ava slash Adam is your best bet? Do you love
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: falling in love with your best friend Farah slash Felix?
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  Speaker 2: What about the angsty rebel who pretends to hate everyone
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  Speaker 2: but has a secret sauside Morgan slash Mason, And of
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: course the person who almost seems too good to be
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  Speaker 2: true but may have a secret hidden away Natalie slash Nate.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're confused by the names, I believe, and again,
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  Speaker 2: I've only played it once, and Samanth and I you
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: both chose bisexual, yeaesh correct? I believe if you choose gay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you get I don't know, maybe you get only
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  Speaker 2: women's names.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a woman, I don't know. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: This is just speculation because we did not have Samantha
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  Speaker 2: and I did not have these names.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's what we were playing on. That is just
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  Speaker 3: a theory that I have.
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  Speaker 1: But so we had two women and two men, Adam, Nate, Farah,
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  Speaker 1: and Morgan. So two men and two.
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  Speaker 3: Women, those were the romantic interest for us.
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  Speaker 2: Amanda continues, Each of these interactions is so unique and
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  Speaker 2: various depending on who you decide to ultimately romance if anyone,
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  Speaker 2: which is another fantastic bonus. You don't have to romance
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  Speaker 2: anyone if you decide that's not your thing. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the funniest things to me.
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  Speaker 3: I that was the decision I got so hung up on.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, who shall I romance because eventually I'd
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: been flirting with everybody, right, oh yeah, you you you.
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  Speaker 2: But eventually you get kind of towards the end this
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  Speaker 2: message that says, all right, you need to lock down
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: who are you going to pursue and it's gonna you
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  Speaker 2: can't change it later.
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  Speaker 3: You have to stick with it for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the game, and I did.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I texted multiple people screenshots of this and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know who these people are like, we can't.
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  Speaker 3: Help you out.
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  Speaker 2: I was so stuck in my head and I'm somebody who, yes,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I identify as asexual. Romance isn't really my thing. But
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  Speaker 2: I do like flirting. I really actually do like flirting.
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  Speaker 2: So I got all caught up in it and it
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  Speaker 2: was fun.
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  Speaker 3: I did enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: I did kind of like, ooh, I wonder what will
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  Speaker 2: happen if I.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you and I talked about this between
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: this and our last book club, talking about missing the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: flirting bit. I hate dating. I'm really bad at it,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: but I'm really good at flirting. I'm really good at
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  Speaker 1: flirting where there's no stakes, so essentially like there's nothing there,
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  Speaker 1: but this is fun and I can flirt with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really good at that. If it's trying to be purposeful,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I am clumsy, like I talked about our meet Cure, like,
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  Speaker 1: I am clumsy, clumsy, clumsy, So when I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: purposely flirt with no intention, I am great at it
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  Speaker 1: and I enjoy it a lot. And then there are
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  Speaker 1: the moments where you're like the beginning of like does
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  Speaker 1: he like me? Do he reciprocate? Or is just one sided?
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  Speaker 1: It's exciting and I've missed that. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: both of these things, this and the last book that
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: we did actually really puts that to the feeling. I'm like, Okay, yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: here we go, a big, big, surly, really moody dude,
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  Speaker 1: let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it was definitely it was very fun
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of times when the
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  Speaker 2: flirting part happened, there were maybe eight decisions, and there
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  Speaker 2: was like two where you could like outright flirt, and
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  Speaker 2: then one where it was kind of more subtle. And
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  Speaker 2: I always did the more subtle one because I was
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: still kind of feeling out who I wanted, and so
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of the like, oh, your stomach
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: feels a little tight, but you're not sure why. Oh
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: your skin feels a little warm, but you don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So it felt very like she wasn't aware, yeah, of.
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  Speaker 3: What she was feeling, but she was feeling something.
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  Speaker 2: Was that your experience did you have more like outright
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  Speaker 2: flirting things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was the sparks, because I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: being overtly taught done Towards the end, it was all
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  Speaker 1: about the looks.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, yes, the looks.
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  Speaker 2: The looks and this did remind me as I mentioned
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a game series I love, Mass Effects is like this
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: where you have like, I don't know, seven people, you
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: can romance, can chuse your gender, and all that kind
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: of stuff, And I played it enough times to romance everybody,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: but it was almost like, again, I do think it's fun.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I think it was really enjoyable, but I also just
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: sort of wanted to know the story of what happens
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: if you romance this person and what you can learn.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: So I was struggling with that too, where I was like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: but I really want to know what's going on with Morgan.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I wonder like.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It was making her this way.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, I wonder if I romance or I can find out,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: but I did like more I deliberated with everybody.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I was so bagger for it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I assumed it would be fair, to be honest.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: That's honestly probably the one I should have done. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: ended up choosing the triangle the Nate and Adam.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Which was shocking to me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Well, because I wanted to see moy I want to
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: learn more, and so I, like I told you, if
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I could have had everybody but Adam, I would have
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: had like a probably yes.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And to be fair. I was Adam. Adam was number
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: one for me.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: That's so interesting.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the others were too nice. I'd like to argue
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: with people.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Oh no, not me. I was like, just leave me
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: be sir, Let me do my job.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Let freed over the corner.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I did. I wanted to. I really liked Mari and
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I really liked Faarah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know again, if I could have chosen like
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: multiple people, oh gosh, who knows, But that's why I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: chose them.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And I do like I like a good tough guy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Oh but I secretly am in love with you things,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: so I'm sure I'll enjoy it in the second book.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: But it was very much why can't I have Nate
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and this person?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Right again, Nate would probably be the one I would
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: have ended up with, So I can't imagine in real
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: life like being with someone who's or Pharah like essentially,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But yes, I do in relationships. I've only been with men,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: so that's the real life.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: But I did.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I picked bisexual because I was like, you know what,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: this is one of those like let's just take it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Because I've always had moments of like, this woman is beautiful,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: not necessarily attractive, but I acknowledge how beautiful they are,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and I cannot ever let that go. And I'm more
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: likely to compliment a woman than I am a man.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean it's just.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: More options there, you got more options.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I'm greedy, yes, exactly, exactly. But something else that a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: man had talked about here's a quote. Determining who will
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: be your best friend was just as interesting to me
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: as any potential budding romance, especially because it requires you
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to be kind and mess with them, not just anyone
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: who'll be able to match with Ava slash adams gruff
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: no nonsense attitude. This is in part due to the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: choices helping you frame the detective's personality. Here's around and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: character interactions, providing an opportunity to reflect yourself within the character,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: even the little details such as whether you drink coffee
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: or tea? What about with the pastry? You always gotta
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: get it with a pastry.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Of course I think I did that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You also get friendship points.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You have flirting points and friendship points, and I had
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of I'm just friendly, so I had a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: lot of friends points.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I only had the friendship points. Really, with Nate, that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a high relation points.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh well, I had a bunch, I think everybody added,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: but even add.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Everybody else had a three or one, three or one,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and then at Nate I had six.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I had a bunch with Nate too. I had a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: bunch of Nate, but there were a lot of opportunities
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: with him. I think right to have those interactions. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: then Amanda wrote whether your detective is a direct carbon
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: copy of your self, wish fulfillment or neither. It's been
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: a fun experiment trying the different personality combinations. It's easy
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of many games to play as a snarky ahole without
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: any repercussions.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Or anyone taking notice.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But I love how in this game that dictates how
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the other characters will address you and follow through in
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the later books. Okay, my last point I will say
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: about the series and why I love it again focusing
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: on how the story draws you in with these elements
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and delivers a really compelling narrative that truly does change
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: with each playthrough, depending on how you equip your detective
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: socially and with different skills. With no spoilers, I have
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: never had two runs be the same and can make
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it feel like a live action rom com or a thriller,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: doomed romance, all depending on these choices. And I think
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that's why, even after four years, I'm still replaying and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: eagerly awaiting the third book. Ooh, that's exciting. Okay, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: thought the third one was already out, So.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, Amanda, you're making all these things just too exciting.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, and that's good to know, because, like we said,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we didn't. I haven't played it twice. Samantha has played
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: it twice. But no, well I know now I'm like, mmm,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: but I am such a I guess there is a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: slightly different It's hard for me to be snarky.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Oh I was so snarky.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm one hundred percent. I was like, Samantha's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: gonna choose this one. Every time I would see a choice,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I like, Samantha, She's gonna.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Be forgiving it, loving, and I'll be like, no, thank you.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's kind of I'm kind of notoriously.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I cannot like in Mass Effect, I can't be the renegade.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I have to be the parent. I can't do it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And in like BioShock, I cannot do like take the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the energy from the tool.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I can't do it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Even if I'd get like a different ending or a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: slightly different thing, I just can't do it, so it
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: would be interesting for me. There were certainly a lot
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of choices. I was like this one or this one,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and so I'm sure I could have a play through.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how different it would be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So I was more snocky with the new new Bravo
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: team and the mom than I was with my coworkers.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I will say, mm hmm, yeah, I want I'm curious.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I think the thing I'm most curious about is the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: last like the finale, I guess because there was a
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: lot in the kind of combat section at the end
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: where I was like I was, I got really in
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: my head about what would I actually do? So this
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: this one was very much me, a reflection of me,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: of what I would do.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: This is me being the Yeah, absolutely I'm a badass and.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not Mine was very much like can't we all
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: get along?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Nope?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That's interesting though, So yours wasn't necessarily you like, reflection
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of you.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: No, it is what I want to be. Okay, okay,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: except the but I mean it's an interspersed you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you can't really because I couldn't absolutely be a jerk
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the entire time. Like so like with a mortician, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was very nice and like the CSI person was like
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he and I are very close, the friend, the ex
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: partner very close. Even the dude who was the governor's whatever.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I was still like, eh, nothing to push those buttons.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: But with like the team, if they pushed up gets me,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I pushed back like that's kind of that level. The
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: mom that was not as forgiving understanding, but not.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Uh huh okay, I mean, yeah, you can't totally separate
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it out, but mine was certainly me trying to figure
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: out what I would actually do, so it could be
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: fun to do one where I'm just like I wish,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: like this is the thing, seeing the differences.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: That's the next run.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. So Amanda continues first book, Rundown. Note.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I chose my romantic partner preference to be only women,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: so the names below will reflect the female variations for
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: reference Ava Adam, Natalie nat slash Nate, Morgan slash Mason
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: slash Felix.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so if I say I'm heterosexual, it would all
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: be men.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So, oh that's interesting Okay, that's not as much fun.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never do that version.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna but that stills not so fun.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: My first playthrough back when the first book released back
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. Shout out to the recap feature in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the second book for reminding me how it went, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: apparently I loved it so much I made an immediate
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: second run. So yes, when you start the second one,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: it's like, do you want to recap?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: How much details do you want?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You can also import your game from the first one,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: which is what we did. Amanda continues. My detective personality
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the first time pretty much reflected my own at the time,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: so a bit serious, a little snarky, and all about
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: getting the job done. I followed the rules, including throwing
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: away my precious coffee and pastry, and got along most
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: with Tina. I didn't let Douglas, who's the mayor's son
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: who's also an intern, do whatever he wanted, and tried
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to make him actually work to no avail. I had
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a good but reserved relationship with my mother, respecting her
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: but slightly resenting her for being away much of the time.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And of course I had Bobby be an ex lover
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: from college because a snoopy reporter X and a vampire
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: love story is perfect for drama, agreed, and then Amanda
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: runs through major choices, one of them Okay, so yes,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I know we've already spoiled it, but at this point
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: get out now. If you were like I really don't
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: want any more spoilers.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Well, yours is also going to be different, So reminder
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of that and your choices. You don't know what your
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: choices are.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Make that's true.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But to be fair, So for me, as we said Douglas,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: him and my relationship was I ignored him essentially, let
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: him do what he wanted to and did my own thing,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: not worrying about him. For me, Tina and I were close,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: very close. Bobby and I were just acquaintances because I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with him. He just sounded like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a douche from the joms, I was like, nope. And
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: for Rebecca the mother, we weren't very close in relationship,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: but I understood her absence, but she's still in arm's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: length away.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Douglas, I tried to get him to do work
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: as well, but I also was kind of like I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: felt like my hands were tired because he was the mareson,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: but I did try to get him to do work.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Tina and I were really close and there's a scene
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: where you like go out to the bar together and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: we had a grand old time.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Not too much of a grand old time, but a
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: grand old time.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Uh. For Bobby, it says past relationship, acquaintance, a reporter
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: with bad morals. For Rebecca the mom, past relationship, very
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: close relationship even.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: With the absences.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I knew it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: It was always like do you reach out or and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: every other choice was like ignore her or like acknowledged
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: but don't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I was always like, who reach out?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: We could do this, but okay, it makes fun. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: knew that was going to be a bit. I was like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: so I can choose how this relationship is gonna look. Okay, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: ok uh. So major choices that Amanda runs through shoot
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: ava first play through, I Pepper sprayed and that has
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: been a theme throughout unless I decide to let them go.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I so this is early in the on in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: game where you kind of you run into the vampires.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: You don't realize their vampires. I did not shoot. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: think I was trying to be like, we're gonna talk
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: this out.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I pepper sprayed Adam, Oh really real hard.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I think I was like talking to them.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Nope, immediately, no question.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And then Amanda writes reason for joining Wa Haven PD,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: best job to use scientific skills, want to help people,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: pretty consistent throughout. I'm a cybersecurity professional in real life
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and even consider joining the FBI early in my career,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: so this choice has always been fairly easy. Skills wise,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I tended to focus on technical and people skills, basic
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: detective things.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: The three of us have something uncommon. You wanted to be.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be a diplomat slash CIA agent.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then she does this, and I was
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a state agency, worked with the facts, with the Department
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Juvenial Justice. I wanted to help people a little different
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: than zobersecurity. But for a while I was looking to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: do a job with GBI, specifically working with children. But yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely on that same route. But mine was there was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: no technological stuff. It was all like people.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I believe because they asked you kind of early on,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: how did you become detective? And I think because there
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: was one choice that was like, essentially you just had
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: to do it because the last person retired. I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I said something along the lines of like I wanted
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: to do it, but I don't feel great about how.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I remember mind was because I wanted to help you.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I And that was pretty much throughout when
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: it would be like why are you doing this, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: consistently would say, we need to help people of this town.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: We have to prevent something like this happening, always kind
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of focusing in on the town's people. My professional information,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: my people skills is the highest seventy seven percent, combat
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: is zero percent, science technology fifty four percent, deductions last
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: knowledge thirty seven percent, and then buy the book sixty
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: three percent, been the rules thirty seven percent.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because my people's skills was sixty eight percent,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: my combat skills were forty percent, my science technology was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen percent, deduction fifty two percent, and by the book
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was fifty eight percent, been the rules forty two percent.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I was pretty even on that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like you had a you were overall better.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like skills I was black.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: You know, because my science and technology went, We're all
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the way down. I thought I got challenged too.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like I needed to up.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It right right right right.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see what happens, and then Amanda
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: continues went out or stayed in, stayed in the office
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: as a chronic overworker. This made so much sense for
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: me to do, especially the first playthrough. Though I'm not
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: going to lie, the going out scene is so much fun.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I've worked on getting a better work life balance, so
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: later games I tend to go out, especially with romancing
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Morgan for the fun interactions.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Now I'm curious.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I did a little bit of both. I think I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: definitely went out with Tina a few times. Nate and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I went out and did out of Thay a couple
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of times. That's all I got.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever went out with Nate other
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: than a work thing, but I went out with Tina
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and then they all showed up right. And I know
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: there's that part with Tina asked you out. You have
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: to like pretty much directly asking you are you going
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to be somebody who stays in or do you go out?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you say oh, yeah, yeah, And Tina even asks
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: like you know about romance, and you can say I
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: have no time for.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Romance, which I did. I think I said the same thing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I think I said, like it's not a essentially it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: not a priority for me right now.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So I need to know. Because they described the home,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: what kind of home did you pick?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I think I did. It was like.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Cozy, clutter, hozy clutter me too, end. I was like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: well damn it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like the whole team Bravo unit Bravo
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: comes over and.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: They're looking at your apartment.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I remember feeling kind of like embarrassed even though it's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: not real.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It's not real, but yet I was also embarrassed because
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the options are like chic or minimal or industrial or cozy,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and I was like, of course I'm want to do cozy.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I didn't mean grandma cozy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: What does cozy mean to you?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Having enough blank is around so that everyone can have
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: one if they desire.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's in a comfortable place to sit.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I agree, I agree, but that is certainly
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: my apartment is what I chose the closest thing to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: my apartment. And then Amanda writes reaction to vampire revelation,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: accepting pretty much always choose this, especially after everything that
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: goes down the story. So this is like, when you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: find out all these supernatural things they're vampires, how do
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you react? I think I did the like what but
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: okay with it? Eventually, Yeah, me too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I think I did the okay and then moved on.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna need time to process.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think I was ever like oh I hate
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: this or I hate all of you, or I was
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: just sort of like, this is a lot.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: All right, well let's keep working.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Then we got things to.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Do exactly, and then Amanda Wrights agreed to agency blood test. Yes,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: this one changes all the time as the story goes on.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a right answer, but I'm sure
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it will come back down the road.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I agreed to do it too.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But I was very like I that one I got
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: stuck on for a long time. But I thought like
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: story wise, oh, it would.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Be in real life. I would want to know what's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: wrong with me or what is happening immediately I would
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: be yes, mm hmmm, that's a real life decision.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I was very very torn, which is also me in
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: real life.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, but now they'll have my blood like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I was back and forth, back and forth, but I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: did eventually it was like, Okay, I want to I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: want to know and see what happens in the story,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and then Amanda writes romance Ava, this was such a
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: difficult one, and I debated between her and Natalie for
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: way too long. My second game, I actually ended up
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: romancing Natalie, and I found that I rarely romance Eva
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: now because the slow burn and hot and cold of
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: her personality has been not my cup of tea as
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I have grown older. So Ava being Adam in our case,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the thing, is, like, I want
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to go back in romance everybody, this is what's gonna
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: happen to me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: But I know that we were having real time revelation.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, my future, my future Ada. No, Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I absolutely felt the same way, and like, I think
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I would stick to Adam when it comes to like
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: romance novels. I like the build up of the fighting
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: through also because I'm just a stubborn in real life,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but also it makes me there's something too just goating
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit in a good way, not mean mean,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Nate was my character. I try to flirt
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: with him, but in the being we're just friends.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he was a nice guy in
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: a non like internet mean way. He was actually a
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: nice guy, at least it seems. Who knows what happens later,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I do. I do love a good slow Burn. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: think part of that is because I often catch myself
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: reading Slowburn fan fiction, and I'm not in it for
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the romance, but there's something kind of funny.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: About it to me where they neither of them realize that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you fools, So that could be fun,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, I'll see how this triangle plays out.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe it will be really interesting. But I did, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: were right, you had it. You hit it on the head.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be with Farah, so I guess I'll
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: have to go back. But I wanted to be with
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Morgan too.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did. You try to tell me both, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but fair I seemed to be
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the one that would have gotten new Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed, and then Amanda continues Murphy bite the detective,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: so the detective being you yes on the neck first
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: play through.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I was livid about this.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I thought I had done everything right, but it was
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: one mistake in not trusting my skills. I've had a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: few variations to this, and some where there is no bite.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I definitely got bits, so.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I got it. I was mad too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, I just assumed it was an overall
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: like it has to happen so we can play through it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But okay, apparently not. Oh gosh, now I want to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: know what choice? Where did I go wrong?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely happened to play back. Thanks a lot of money.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Gosh, thanks a lot, Amanda.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And then finally Murphy's fate, Amanda writes, captured. Not gonna lie,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Not entirely sure how I managed this on my first
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: play through, but must have been ecstatic, especially after suffering
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a bite. I feel like most of the other games
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I have done wind up with him running away.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know he could. I assumed it will
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: automatic because yeah, I captured him too, I did too.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Did you sacrifice yourself to distract him?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Well?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: And the thing, the choice I think I did incorrectly,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: but I'm I don't regret it because it's totally true.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Was there was like one where she the detective had
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the option of like healing herself and then because she
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: was pretty injured in my case, and then going in
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and I ignored the healing and I was like, no,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: we're going.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: In like a thing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I should have taken that moment,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I captured him. Uh. And then it sounds
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like we're going to be working together U the Detective
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and Unit Bramo and future projects because now you're the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: detective is like a supernatural beacon and everybody wants a
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: piece of.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. So yeah, because you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: as the future. I'm like, oh, it just abruptly ended.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: What happened, realizing it is a three parter, But I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was like, I assumed it would still like wrap up
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and it kind of really didn't. So
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, what do I do with this?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But before we go there, I do want to know
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: because there's a part where you can get your personal information.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So I needed to know what your personality was because
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting for Kira Kingston.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: For Kia Kingston, all right, personality sixty six percent charming
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: thirty four percent, intimidating fifty four percent, impulsive forty six percent,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: cautious forty three percent, sarcastic fifty seven percent, genuine, friendly
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: sixty two percent, stoic thirty eight percent, easygoing sixty two percent,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: stubborn thirty eight percent, heart, seventy eight percent mind twenty
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: two percent, optimist sixty seven percent pessimist thirty three percent,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: team players seventy five percent independent twenty five percent.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that sarcastic one through me. So my personality
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: chap for kra Lynn was charming fifty three percent, intimidating
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: forty seven percent because I'm not going back down, impulsive
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: fifty eight percent, while being cautious at forty two percent,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: sarcastic thirty nine percent, while being genuine sixty one percent.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: That's why I was like, what friendly? I was forty
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: eight percent friendly, fifty two percent stoic, and then I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was forty eight percent easygoing, about fifty two percent stubborn,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: which feels about right. And the traits. I'm eighty two
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: percent heart, eighteen percent mind, So okay, thanks, I'm fifty
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: five percent optimist, the forty five being the pessimist, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: then a fifty eight percent team player forty two percent independent.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Wow, there were some surprises in there.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, your sarcastic was a little surprising. I'm not
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. It was fun. I was like building it up.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I was trying to be stoic because I am an observer.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: That is something about always has been told like, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: will not react until I see what the environment is doing.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: So therefore I probably would be seen as stoic because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to especially in new situations, I'm not
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: going to react. I'm going to try to figure out
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: what's happening before I react and then go for it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to be reading as many people as possible,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: So that could be a little more personality. But I'm
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: sarcastic as hell, so that's quite funny.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I think for me, I'm also an observer, but I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: also very uh.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Once I get to know somebody, then my personality really
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: adapts to what they do. So I think I was
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: not sarcastic at all at the beginning, but then I
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, Morgan seems like she appreciates sarcasm. Maybe
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Adam does, so I sort of adapted based on their
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: personality such as something I.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Do I don't. I think I might.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I was sarcastic with her, but I was
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: much more like balanced with sarcasm and genuineness with her.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: But I mean that is accurate. I think I kind
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of adapted. Since you have multiple characters in there that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I appreciate sor gas. That's where that came from. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: think overall you were more balanced than me, but that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you're yeah, definitely balanced heart versus mind was a bit shocking.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, would be mean to these people?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I would be mean to the victim's mother. That's so ridiculous, Like, yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. What would I be mean to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Tina who fills a connection to this family? No, I'm
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: not going to be mean to these people. What's wrong
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: with you?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And then I feel like looking through my because you
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: can also look at your relationship stats with the team. Yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I actually like was way more friendly with everybody and
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: flirting wise.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Much less.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so who are you? Who are you
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: most friendly with?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Nate? But Pharah was very close. Nate and Farah very close.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So they gave you points. Who was the flirt one?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: The biggest flirt I had was Nate. I had six
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: flirting points with him and ten friend points with him.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, so yeah, for Adam I had six
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: flirting points, four friends. Nate I had one flirting point
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: seven friends. For Faarah, I had zero flirting points and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: three friends, and for Morgan, I had zero flirting points
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and two friends. Oh man, Morgan and I had the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: least good relationship.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I was flirting all about, I was friend friending all about.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: All of mine are like higher than that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, oh, I need to do more, which
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: is actually fair? Nah?
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: No, well, next playthrough, we'll revisit. I am curious about
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the future.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: What's gonna happen in the next book, And it's Amanda
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: fun for you because you already know.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But she knows, right. What are your predictions.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be some other stronger supernatural force
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: and maybe another opposing government force, and they're gonna find out.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I think the secret's gonna get out of the bag
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: about your very special detective blood.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna synthesize our blood for the team.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Mmm mm hmm. I could see that. I could see that. Well,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll see.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll see.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Amanda for this. It was
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: so fun, and you were a hero and wrote these
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: questions and went way above and beyond what we asked.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you for doing this, for sending
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: this to us. This is right up my alley as
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I'm discovering all these new phone games because yeah, I'm
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: downloading so many more right now. I think I told
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: any that I'm doing like Find Your Object, Murder Mystery.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So come on, I need more suggestions because I'm loving
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: these and after I hit a certain point and I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: can't win, I'm like, all right, I quit. So I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: need new suggestions.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Noted, new suggestions where she won't quit because she can't wait. Yes, yes,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: please send those are away because we do love them
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and this was really fun and we hope that you
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it as well. You can email us at stephaniea
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Mom steph atiheartmeia dot com. You can find us on
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Twitter at Mom' stuff podcast or on Instagram at Stuff
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I've Never Told You. Thanks as always to our super
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: producer Christina.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Christina, have you done this because we need you to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: do this?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, I would love a comparison of stats, Christina,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: And thanks to you for listening stuff One told you
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