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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March five. This is Jacks Happy Hour, and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy who insists on taking care of his
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  Speaker 1: own chicken, J Pece s Rick and my own mentors
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  Speaker 1: and my own health and my own chicken. Indeed, welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguar's Happy Hour. My name is J P. Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Jeff Lockman. That was Joe Fortunado. Glad
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  Speaker 1: you're along with us today. The off season we have
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  Speaker 1: we have a little beasts reference there that we do.
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  Speaker 1: That's the chicken thing. And we're gonna get to him
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  Speaker 1: a little later, and he's going to be um presenting
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  Speaker 1: in front of a unique audience. Let's say there's a
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  Speaker 1: little controversy with that. It'll be interesting. I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to be there for it. Um, it's not bad advice.
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  Speaker 1: Protect your saying something that's wrong. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to give it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to give it away. Appreciate, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: give it away. Because that's a pretty interesting story about
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  Speaker 1: beast mode Marshawn Lynch recently and and also a college institution. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: protect your chick to it, protect your chicken. Yes, here's
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  Speaker 1: what's coming up on the program today? A J Boyer
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  Speaker 1: traded not official until the opening of the league year
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  Speaker 1: in March eighteenth. Is the date. Well, both teams are
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It's about as fishing as you can get.
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  Speaker 1: It is correct, yes, unique and got Quay wants out.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into the developments this week Quarterback Talk. Chad
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  Speaker 1: Johnson joins us in studio not Ocho Sinko, the VP
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  Speaker 1: of sales and Service for the Jaguars. Chad Johnson joining
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  Speaker 1: us to discuss the summertime concert coming up at t
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  Speaker 1: i A bank Field featuring def Leppard and others. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League as well, So
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to get to Let's start off with the
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  Speaker 1: Adam Schefter tweet. Tuesday afternoon, the Jags and the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: agreed to a trade that will take effect officially at
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  Speaker 1: the start of the league year. A j boy A
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  Speaker 1: headed to Denver for a four round pick, So about
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  Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars worth of salary is off the books
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  Speaker 1: now for the Jaguars as well. What are you making
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  Speaker 1: this trade overall? Is it a good one? It is?
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  Speaker 1: Is it enough for the Jags? Are you just hey?
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  Speaker 1: You got your the salary off the books, you get
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  Speaker 1: a draft pick to go with it, and you move forward. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first off, I think the world of a J boy
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  Speaker 1: as a person. I think he's uh, he's a high
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  Speaker 1: class individual quality guy and uh watching him play, really
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  Speaker 1: his study habits are phenomenal. I mean literally, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is a student of the game. You can tell that
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  Speaker 1: the way he plays the game, the way he anticipates things.
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  Speaker 1: But is he still a top end cornerback. That's a
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  Speaker 1: great question, and I think I think because of the
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that have been going bad for
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  Speaker 1: this franchise, or or perceived as being bad. A bad season. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the Jail and Ramsey trade two games in London, and
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  Speaker 1: that for a lot of people, the trade of a
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  Speaker 1: J boy a kind of goes onto that that pile
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  Speaker 1: or the heap of pile that people look at. Another
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  Speaker 1: bad job by the organism. Again add it to the list.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, because I mean, he's your best corner
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  Speaker 1: right now. But if you if you evaluate it on
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  Speaker 1: its own, is a J Boyer worth what is thirteen million?
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  Speaker 1: Is he worth thirteen million a year? If you evaluate
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  Speaker 1: his performance last year and the year before his play,
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  Speaker 1: does not equal that level of pay. That's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a fact that cannot be argued. You look at all
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  Speaker 1: the different scouting services that ranked players in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, you will evaluate the speed that a j
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  Speaker 1: has displayed. He's just not there. And but the reality
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  Speaker 1: is he's your best corner. That also means that you've
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  Speaker 1: got some work to do to fill that spot, and
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  Speaker 1: also means that he's he's now I think now the
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  Speaker 1: secondary from seventeen it's all gone. He's all gone. All
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  Speaker 1: the guys, if you count the nickel corner Aaron Colvin
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  Speaker 1: as well, all five of those guys are now out
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  Speaker 1: of here. He was the last man standing from the
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  Speaker 1: f C Championship game. So and then the reality is
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  Speaker 1: that did this team needs to find cap space and
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  Speaker 1: no question was posed to gentlemanager Dave Caldwell about getting
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  Speaker 1: this team back under the cap and and his response
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  Speaker 1: was kind of casual that you know, he you know,
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  Speaker 1: we can do that. It's it's not it's not that hard. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look to get there, things like this have
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  Speaker 1: to happen. You know, you have to let go of
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  Speaker 1: good players. Now the reality is here and that he's
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  Speaker 1: a good player. But the level of pay doesn't equal
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  Speaker 1: the level of player that he has been playing at.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the cost of doing business and free agency too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna pay a big number for a
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  Speaker 1: guy and then in reality, two or three years later,
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  Speaker 1: if the level of play is not there, here's the reality,
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  Speaker 1: here's the reality. The contract is still fine if a
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  Speaker 1: j boy is still playing at the level of that
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  Speaker 1: he was at. Absolutely it's a great number because he
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  Speaker 1: was a top five corner in the league, top six
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  Speaker 1: corner in the league. Hasn't he hasn't been first team,
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been there since. So what's happened from seen and now?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know? Okay, but the but the productivity hasn't
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been in the same neighborhood of that in so
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  Speaker 1: but it's still difficult and that you're still you got
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  Speaker 1: to replace your best corner. So how do you do that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean a couple different ways. One, you can pay
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  Speaker 1: somebody more commensurate with what their talent or their ability
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  Speaker 1: is in free agency, Number one, number two draft, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna be. I know that there's
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  Speaker 1: two guys, ones at Florida and ones at Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: they're highly touted corners and uh. In the draft process,
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  Speaker 1: it's still early time time out. Okay, so you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: draft a guy because you're drafting, You're probably gonna draft
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  Speaker 1: a linebacker. At some point. It's gonna have to play right,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to draft a defensive lineman. JP. I
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  Speaker 1: understand rookies. I understand rookies on defense. Next year you
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  Speaker 1: might have a lot Yeah, you might have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reality. You know what that's gonna do. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a young team. You lose a bunch of games there.
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  Speaker 1: There there are a lot of holes with this football
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  Speaker 1: team to fill. And are you going to fill them
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  Speaker 1: all with rookies? No? Are you gonna fill them with
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  Speaker 1: rookies and draft picks that eventually will be taken over.
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  Speaker 1: And in the meantime, I have stopcap veterans in place. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways, this franchise, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say it's in rebuild mode, but if you,
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  Speaker 1: if you, if you look at where they're gonna be at,
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  Speaker 1: possibly in a couple of weeks, once they get to
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  Speaker 1: this to the point of salary cap, this is somewhat
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  Speaker 1: of a rebuild mode. That. I mean, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't see what is it a rebuild or is a retool?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I look at semantics, but the
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  Speaker 1: reality is that this this team has to do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of retooling. But there's a lot of teams in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League that have to do that. This
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  Speaker 1: team tried to stay status quo from seventeen and the
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  Speaker 1: eighteen It didn't work. This team tried to do some
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  Speaker 1: a few things different but not so much defensively from
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  Speaker 1: from eighteen to nineteen to keep everything in place. Guess
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  Speaker 1: what didn't work? It didn't work, so um so doing
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  Speaker 1: something different. I don't want to say it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a complete rebuild. It I mean sometimes things that needed
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  Speaker 1: to be done. And the reality is that this team
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  Speaker 1: has cap issues. What kind of corner do you need? Though?
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  Speaker 1: Considering the division that you plant, it's really good? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Especially in this division when you
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  Speaker 1: have some top in I don't care what division you're in.
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  Speaker 1: Corner the type of corner that you want doesn't change,
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  Speaker 1: you know that the way then with the speed of
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  Speaker 1: like t Y Hilton, and it doesn't matter. Every division
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  Speaker 1: has speed. Every division has speedy. Every everybody's got speed.
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  Speaker 1: Hopkins is not that fast. I mean, that's that's probably
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a misnomer. DeAndre Hopkins is not
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  Speaker 1: a not a elite speed guy, deep guy. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's I mean, look at his average yards per catch
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say he's a possession guy, but I mean his numbers
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  Speaker 1: don't tell you that he's a deep guy. Breaking News
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logman says DeAndre Hopkins is a possession guy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying he's a possession guy either. I'm saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying if you look, if you look at the numbers
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  Speaker 1: and plose numbers up dere okay, and then we'll make
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  Speaker 1: a case for Yeah, you could probably say that he
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  Speaker 1: is more of a possession receiver. But the type of
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  Speaker 1: corner that you want doesn't matter where you're at in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League. You want a corner that can
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  Speaker 1: cover somebody by themselves, and you can have the utmost
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  Speaker 1: confidence that that player can cover him. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say shut him out because I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: very few corners in the league that can do that.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen was one of those guys. But Janalen who was
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  Speaker 1: a nightmare? What do you wanted to be one of
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  Speaker 1: those guys? But when when he was on, now, Jalen
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  Speaker 1: can shut down some of the best of the best.
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  Speaker 1: But then also Jalen could screw up and have a
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  Speaker 1: game that he will give up a lot of plays
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  Speaker 1: and have some mental errors to where he was giving
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  Speaker 1: up big play after big play. So it's not like
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  Speaker 1: Jalen was without fault alright, So we'll come back to that,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll come back around to this. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: to got quiz. Well, we'll come back around to the
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  Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins because I think we're onto something with DeAndre.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're onto something about that. Oh hell, I'm
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  Speaker 1: good to be honest. Something. But where are we going
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  Speaker 1: within Gockway? Oh well, let's start off earlier this offseason
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  Speaker 1: of course, when when g M Dave called Well called
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  Speaker 1: the unique and Gockway situation priority number one, and last
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  Speaker 1: week at the combine called Wills asked about the process
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  Speaker 1: of getting him signed or tagged. I think the best
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  Speaker 1: thing for us to do as an organizations when we
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  Speaker 1: have news for you guys on that is to let
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  Speaker 1: you guys know when we have news on it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's still a process that needs to be played. But
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys know how we feel about him,
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  Speaker 1: and um, we want him here. We're gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: get him here and keep him here, um one way
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  Speaker 1: or another. This was late last week in Indianapolis. And
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  Speaker 1: then Monday morning, everyone wakes up to a unique and
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  Speaker 1: got Way tweet saying that he no longer had interest
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  Speaker 1: in being in Jacksonville, no interest in signing a long
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  Speaker 1: term contract here. Duvo, I love you and I gave
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  Speaker 1: you guys everything I got him. Thankful for the journey
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  Speaker 1: and look forward to continue in my career else where
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  Speaker 1: ninety one saying goodbye. Well, he's not saying goodbye because
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars still have the franchise tag available to place
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  Speaker 1: on him. And then which day which look Dave Caldis
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  Speaker 1: said one way or another when he's talking about keeping
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  Speaker 1: which one way or another means with an extension or
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  Speaker 1: with the tag. But where where I'm kind of a
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  Speaker 1: miss on this whole situation is that as Um, as
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  Speaker 1: a free agent first of all in Goquay, should never
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  Speaker 1: want to close the door on on any on any
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  Speaker 1: avenue that maybe open to him in free agency, whether
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  Speaker 1: it be that his existing team or potential teams that
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  Speaker 1: that are out there, whatever, because look, the more and
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  Speaker 1: the more people that want you, the more your price
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  Speaker 1: goes up. So you don't want to shut the door
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  Speaker 1: on the team that you're with. So what happened, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what what went wrong? Was Coughlin? I mean, do we
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  Speaker 1: want to blame this on Coughlin too? He's been gone
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  Speaker 1: since December? Um, because I mean that's supposedly there was
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  Speaker 1: some issues with Coughlin and contracts with and go way
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  Speaker 1: before with other people and Tom Coughlin is not around.
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  Speaker 1: So um. My point is where my question is because
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  Speaker 1: I know, yahn uh. John's stand up guy now, but
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  Speaker 1: if you if you say something wrong to John, he's
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  Speaker 1: done with you. He'll be done with you in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't forget. No, he's like an elephant. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna remember. But what what happened? I mean, was
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  Speaker 1: there something said? Was there something done? And look, I
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  Speaker 1: understand that negotiations are business and sometimes things get said
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  Speaker 1: that can be perceived or taken in the wrong way.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that was it. I don't know, but boy,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's first of all, he's a marvelous player.
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  Speaker 1: He he is one of the best young pass rushers
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  Speaker 1: in the game. You can debate what his level of
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  Speaker 1: pay should be. Should it be eighteen million or twenty
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  Speaker 1: two million. You can have that debate and go round
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  Speaker 1: and round and round, like we've had that debate. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's been the debate. But the I think the issue
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  Speaker 1: here is that you're talking about a guy who he's
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  Speaker 1: doing everything by the book. He's entitled to do anything
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  Speaker 1: that he wants to do. He played under a contract
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  Speaker 1: that was not fair to his talent level and his
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  Speaker 1: production over the last couple of years because that's the
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  Speaker 1: rules of the National Football League, and now he's entitled
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  Speaker 1: to to test the market. The team's entitled to apply
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  Speaker 1: the franchise tag. So this is where unfortunately passion, the
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  Speaker 1: passion that everybody has for the sport, doesn't mix with
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  Speaker 1: the business eye to the sport. And that's just the
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  Speaker 1: reality of it and what's gonna happen. What's the end result? Look,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that you never want to have players
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  Speaker 1: that don't want to be with you. That's fact. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you do you do you want to have a player
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  Speaker 1: who's and I'm not saying he's a malcontent, but if
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  Speaker 1: but if somebody's not happy, that's kind of a term.
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  Speaker 1: Put it out on social media that he doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be Do you want to do you want to
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  Speaker 1: tag somebody? And what? What would he? How was his
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  Speaker 1: reaction to that be? First of all, he wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: happy that he's been tagged, and he wouldn't be happy
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  Speaker 1: that it doesn't have a long term deal. Do you
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  Speaker 1: want to have that in your locker room? Do you
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  Speaker 1: want to have that on your team? He's a great player.
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  Speaker 1: Is it worth having that to have the productivity? And
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  Speaker 1: what would the productivity be the same? What the well?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's always don't don't question the production with you
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  Speaker 1: on Because I can tell you one thing. If there
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  Speaker 1: was ever a year for him that did he could
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  Speaker 1: have wanted to protect himself to get the free agency,
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  Speaker 1: it was this past year and even in the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of games he's thrown himself around, which I think
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  Speaker 1: I highlighted that in in a film room segment at
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  Speaker 1: some point in the end of the year last year,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, I got more even more
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  Speaker 1: respect for him. God way, because here's a guy that
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  Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, could cost himself sixty seventy million
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  Speaker 1: and guaranteed money. So if if he played the game
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  Speaker 1: a little bit cautious, I would have understood. But he
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  Speaker 1: didn't play the game cautiously. He threw him but his
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  Speaker 1: body around like like you want your football players to
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  Speaker 1: do like you you want you guys on your team
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  Speaker 1: to do so uh And then look there the debate
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  Speaker 1: will always go on is he worth twenty two million?
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  Speaker 1: And and um, look I don't know the answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is he worth Could he be worth twenty
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  Speaker 1: two million? Sure? Has he been in a double digit
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  Speaker 1: SAT guy consistently? No? Is he great against the run? No?
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  Speaker 1: Does he make plays against the run sometimes yes? Can
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  Speaker 1: he be a liability against the run at times? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Do you pay somebody that can be a liability against
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  Speaker 1: the run? But ye, it's a good pass rush your
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  Speaker 1: twenty two million. It happens your defense, It happens. It
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  Speaker 1: happens because of the premium that's put on on the
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  Speaker 1: ability of a player to rush the passer. So but
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  Speaker 1: it goes into that category of here's another thing that's
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  Speaker 1: not going well, added to the list. You know that
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  Speaker 1: that you want and I think as as fans and
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  Speaker 1: looking as supporter as the team, you want to see
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  Speaker 1: some things that are happening that you go, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we need. That's good, that's good, yes, and what it
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  Speaker 1: happens that it builds confidence. And right now you haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten to the point where those things can happen yet,
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  Speaker 1: because look, there's still some things probably coming. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be shocked by that at all from from a cap standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because if you're gonna be a player in
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  Speaker 1: free agency, and also the tag of and Gockway is
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  Speaker 1: gonna eat some of that cap room up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things still to happen, and you
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  Speaker 1: just you want, you want the things that are on
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  Speaker 1: the bad side of the ledger to stop and that
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  Speaker 1: the good side to start happening. And obviously the good
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  Speaker 1: side can't start to happen until you get the free
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  Speaker 1: agency and and for this team, a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: good things are gonna be happening in the draft with
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  Speaker 1: the bevy of picks that they have. And let me
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  Speaker 1: say this, for the for the boy thing, I never
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  Speaker 1: really commented on that a fourth round pick for a
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  Speaker 1: guy that you probably were gonna have to cut. It's
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  Speaker 1: a it's that's pretty good. You know that. I get
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and Dave called all credit the jail and
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  Speaker 1: Ramsey for him to get to get two ones and
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  Speaker 1: a four for that, I mean, I thought he fleeced
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  Speaker 1: the Rams and to get a fourth from the Denver Broncos, Look,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great job because in theory, you're gonna let
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  Speaker 1: him go anyway. You're talking about a guy's probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: get cut anyway, and so you end up getting a
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  Speaker 1: fourth form and a lot of people say, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you would have got a compensatory pick. You don't get
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of lookout him coming out. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a fun guy to watch. He's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: in or well documented. Really two different styles of quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Ur, j P Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Flagaman. The off season is here. The less on
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  Speaker 1: the eight team. Then yes, let's go to the tweet
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  Speaker 1: up on. So it's fine. I mean it's a big
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  Speaker 1: but I mean I think a lot of people we'll
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• 23:40
  Speaker 1: times people end up having they get fixated on one
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: particular stat and this stat on a J boy go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and read it. It's a touchdown percentage again against
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  Speaker 1: corners in the National Football At Jack's bos said please
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  Speaker 1: show this to logs and it was the next gen
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  Speaker 1: stat about a J boy um with Jalen Ramsey's partriding
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  Speaker 1: fewer than two and a half percent of their targets
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  Speaker 1: since a J Boy was at one eight percent number
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  Speaker 1: one in that area. Okay, um, just real quick uh PFF,
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  Speaker 1: football focus. Yes, and a J boy a Genalen Ramsey
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  Speaker 1: were one two or two one right there? It was
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: back and forth the whole see Okay, uh boy, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even in the top thirty the last two years. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: boy over the last couple of years has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of completion percentage about sixty when he's been targeted in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a quarterback rating of over a hundred. Okay, So find
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: another stat that that might reflect better on a J. Look, look,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I like a J as a person. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: it's a bad player. I'm just saying, is that third
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  Speaker 1: teen million for the level of play? They don't marry
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't the same player he was in. No, they
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  Speaker 1: don't marrying, you know. So Look, you can throw out
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  Speaker 1: stats and where he's at the top of touchdown percentage,
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  Speaker 1: but look, that might be the only stat that you
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  Speaker 1: find because completion percentage, quarterback rating, uh, pass breakups, interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's had one interception a year for the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: last two years and seventeen. Look, that's not a great number. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so find another stat. I mean, if if you will
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  Speaker 1: throw stat at me, I'll throw you a stat right
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  Speaker 1: back the battle. We can do that because I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: though sometimes stats can be can be cherry picked in
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  Speaker 1: some cases to to make your case however you want
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  Speaker 1: to make your case. We heard from Jake Gruden there
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  Speaker 1: coming out offensive coordinator. First time we've heard from him,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and the first I think visiting Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: with any of the media was with Ashland and the
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  Speaker 1: full visit there. It's notable obviously what his thoughts are
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  Speaker 1: on the quarterback situation. That's another topic we really didn't
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  Speaker 1: get into yet was Nick Foles and the stories this
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: week in the NFL network that he could be available
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and maybe being pushed out there on the trading block
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: as well. That'd be like a reverse trade, like get
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: out of here and here's something to take with him.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, I mean in order when or for a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: team to take the cap number, team would pay some money,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: give up a pick to be able to move him on,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know. So the one thing I will say that
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Ashlands. If you read between the lines, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading between the wrong lines here, but I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: get the impression that he liked Cardier Minshell a lot
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  Speaker 1: more than he likes Nick Falls from that bite, we heard, sure, right,
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  Speaker 1: And if you listen to the whole and it's it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a it's an all scheduled league, he makes more off
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  Speaker 1: scheduled plays, um, you know. But the reality is is
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that this team needs to covert both quarterbacks right now,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: because if you downgrade one or the other, then it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna downgrade the value of a player that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you may want to move one way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: So but I think it's gonna be in. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most interesting question among many questions with his
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: football team for is what what's going to happen at
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position? And if it is Gardner Minshew, can
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  Speaker 1: he take this team and can he take the next step?
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  Speaker 1: And can he take this team to the next step?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: What's his ceiling? That's the big question. What can he
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  Speaker 1: be as a quarterback? I don't I don't know the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: answer to that. I think anybody knows the answer to that,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and I don't think people in the building. The answer, well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I I do know this. Players that pick that are
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: picked in the later rounds typically aren't viewed as having
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a very high seale. There's a reason they're drafting that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that I think from from that, but look,
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  Speaker 1: here's the reality. Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. Yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: but I mean that's the once in a lifetime type guy.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And I get it, see it. But but I'm just saying,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: is that, look at things like that do happen. Carl
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  Speaker 1: Mecklenburg was he was like a twelfth round pick or
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: something like that for the for the Denver bron Because
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about a Hall of Fame player, hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame type player. I mean, so, uh, you can't end
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: up pigeonholing somebody just because of where they were drafted.
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  Speaker 1: But I do know this and that if if you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: believe that Gardner Minshew is the guy and you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do your homework on the quarterbacks in this draft,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you're making a mistake. I think you have to have
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: an approach. And then I you know, following the news
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: around the league, which we do all the time, we
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: we we read it and we uh we we talked
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  Speaker 1: to people that are in this building. We talked to
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  Speaker 1: people that are in other buildings, We read clips from
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  Speaker 1: other places. And look, look at the Redskins. Maron Rivera
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  Speaker 1: is hired in Washington. They have a first round pick
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that was drafted last year in the building, and
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• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the quarterback class of this year because I believe Washington
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  Speaker 1: Redskins had the second overall pick in the draft, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: do do you you can? You can get a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good quarterback in second Look yeah, I mean, look, you
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  Speaker 1: might think that Dayne Haskins is gonna be a good
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  Speaker 1: football player. But if you think that Toa is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be better, do you do you pass them up just
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because you drafted one last year? I mean you take
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• 29:57
  Speaker 1: what happens, if what if full stage, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that you draft a quarterback JP. I'm what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: this is this is just in general, Ignore Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is saying Nick Foles and gardnerments you
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  Speaker 1: are on this, I don't care. Still look through and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: where you are at and mine. Look if you fall
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: in love with one of these guys that are not
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: named two up because he's probably gonna go before nine,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow, who is going to go before nine.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: But if they're one of these other guys you love okay,
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  Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon, No, he loves them okay, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: he's available at nine, take him, take him right, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: then you can you have something to deal with if
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you you know, you can get rid of the other guy.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: If you don't, here's the thing, JP, it doesn't matter. See,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: all of that doesn't matter. The most most important, the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: most important thing is is trying to find greatness at
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You are not trying to find we're okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're good, we're okay at that position. You're trying to
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  Speaker 1: find greatness because if you don't find if you continue
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  Speaker 1: to be average at that position, which this team hasn't
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: been average at that position, it has been average at best,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a long stretch. Yes, But if you can
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: finally find a way to find greatness at that position,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: your team has a chance at greatness. That's why you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: never closed the door on the quarterback position. Never more.
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• 31:44
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• 36:54
  Speaker 1: cool about it, we know how important the military is
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: in this market. So for every six pack we sell,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the Jaguar are gonna donate two tickets to the USO
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: for military men and women to come out and enjoy
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the show. For France. Really cool, man, really cool. It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a good lineup. I mean, first of all, def Leppard
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and Motley Crue can I mean can stand on their
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: own sure, And for me personally, I mean I saw
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Motley Crue play and nasall cal sum years ago back
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in the early nineties, and we go with the lock
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: uphens Tommy Lee was playing the drums up on the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in the ceiling. Well, if you look across this table,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it's probably right at all of our wheelhouses right now.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: But it is the biggest rock show in the summer
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and they're doing thirty one dates. They're selling like crazy everywhere.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: So we were really fortunate to be able to get
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: this first show and kick off the tour. Um. It's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: gonna be a five hour party, you know when you
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: look at that lineup, it's a long, long, fun night
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and we'll drink some beers and have a good time.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: What's the what's the date? June eighteen, Thursday night. We
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: can go right after the show, We're gonna walk right
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: out the tunnel and we'll be right here inside t
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I a bank field and this has turned in to
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a venue. Now that you've been a couple of big
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: stadium shows. You're obviously Leonard Skinner and that whole deal
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: all day long. It was fantastic. And then of course
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones coming here and packed the place too.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So this is really turning into a place where these
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: tours want to come. When when you look at Shodd's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: vision of opening Daily's Place and our bullish reputation of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: what we can deliver here, we knew we could be
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a great market, but we had to earn it the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: right way, right we opened slowly with Daily's Place, put
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: on some great acts, put on that Skinner show in
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: their hometown that was incredible, by the way. I mean,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: first of all, Skinner was great, but BlackBerry Smoke all
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the way through with kid Rock was that was one
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of the best times I've had in a long time. Well,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the artists loved it and the fans loved and when
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: those two things happen, people start knocking on your door
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to come back, and that's what's been a really special
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and fun thing to see evolve here. I think that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: was one of the cool things about the Skinner Show
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: For me personally, I thought BlackBerry Smokes to all the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: show and for me, and they're coming back to Daili's Place,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: by the way, that was just just just the Almond
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Brothers band, and it's gonna be a special tribute show
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and and and that's where they have such a good
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: time here, they wanted to come back. That's what we
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: want to see happen every time. This definite LEPPERD show
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: is going to be fantastic And uh, tickets obviously are
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: on sale now, but the six pack is the way
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to go. This is the way to get in here.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It's across all price points, so it's not just the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: upper level or anything else. We have a six pack
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: across all price points. We had an awesome day to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: day when we launched it. You know, I'm hoping that
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: we can sell eight ten thousand of these and that
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: lets us donate a couple of thousand tickets to military,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: which will be an awesome thing for everybody. The the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: the design of the stadium has has that already kind
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of been configured as far as how the setup will be.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Is it gonna be one stage? Is it gonna be
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: multiple stages? Because when you're talking about this era of bands,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: they all kind of have their own little thing that
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: they do. Yeah, so yeah, we we've been working through
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the production. It is one stage. What I'm hoping though,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: is we have to keep moving that stage back further
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and further and further because more and more people are coming.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And that's that's the great thing about the flexibility of
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: our stadium that we can do. Um. But you're right,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: each one of those puts on a pretty intense performance.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: So the the change over piece is a really well orchestrated,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: but really difficult thing to go from one band to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the other with this group. Do you have do you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: have dressing rooms for all these live acts that come
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in the different bands each got their own dressing well. Uh,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: if you've seen what we've done in with the new
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: locker rooms, that was part of building those out as
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: we need a new backup house rooms for those. If
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you look at what we did with the Rolling Stones,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: we built a whole artist village depending on how many
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: artists we have or we bring in resources, and we
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: want them to leave thinking this was the best place
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: they played in the country, So we really put a
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: lot into making sure that artist experience is the best
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it can be for them. Make sure you have plenty
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of makeup artists for Poison. I am sure they are
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: traveling well equipped. They might have worned but besides kiss. Okay,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: they might have worn more makeup than any of the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: hair bands from back in the day. I am sure
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they're all coming ready, ready and prepared. I might have
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit more makeup on these days, you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you know, get a little a little older, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: making himself look good like that good stuff. So obviously
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: this is a musically inclined city and area, So make
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: it out to def Leopard, Montley Crue, Poison Jone Jet June.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Get the six pack offer in now at ticketmaster dot com.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: While we have you here, it is season ticket member
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: renewal time. What do we need to know about that process,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: how it's going so far, the deadlines and what's coming
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So so we launched on Thursday. We do know that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: this year there's some unique things that are happening around
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the building with the construction a lot j development parking.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: You know, people have talked about the two games in
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: London and what does that mean. So we've really had
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to make ourselves accessible right now. There's a lot of
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: long conversations and making sure people understand exactly what's happening
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and what we've done with pricing that's favorable for them
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and those types of things, so we know that this
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: will be a little bit of a longer burn than
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: maybe in the past. Are deadlines at the end of March.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Mar we have a big golf tournament in town next week,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: so you know, there's a little disruption there. So it
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: was important that we gave it a long runway to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: make sure we can talk to everybody. Now. I'm sure
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who want to have a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: conversation and looking and having a lot of patients for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: on on your end, I'm sure it is required, and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: kudos to you guys, because I'm sure that there are
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: challenges and every year comes different challenges and this is
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: no different. No, I mean, there's no doubt this will
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: be a tricky off season because we have to re
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: educate them on and maybe some of their experiences have
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: been the same for twenty five years are now going
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: to be a little different. Well, And I think a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: lot of questions of people might have I mean, because
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: this is these are some of the questions that have
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: posed to me because of what I do and and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: for so long people want to ask me like I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: have the answers to all of that, and I don't.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But the one of the big questions how will the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: schedule be managed when you have to London games that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: typically in the past at least the London game has
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: fallen in the middle of the schedule. I mean we've seen,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you know, quite a long window where there hasn't been
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a game here at t I A bank Field, And
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: so I mean, are we looking at maybe another window?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You know that's gonna be interested in how that's managed.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Because the skeptical doesn't come out on until April. We
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: know in the long term that our goal would be
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: too if there are games moved, to move them at
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: a time that's the least desirable for our fans. We
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: know that September games and things like that could be
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a challenge, so there there's no doubt attention to try
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to address it and make it the easiest for our
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: fans and the most beneficial that way. That's gonna take
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: some time, and like you said, we don't have full control.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: If we did, it would be a little different, but
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: we're at the mercy of scheduling and some other things
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that are outside of the Jaguars control itself. Chad, great stuff.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time and as you said, Logs,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you and your staff Chat are
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: working your tails off over there, and I walked through
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: there occasionally the phones are ringing. Everybody's from from open
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to close talking to our fans, and we appreciate what
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you guys do. Thank you much. All right, So real
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: quick question your favorite band out of the June the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: June concert coming here, y'all. I'm gonna let you know
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: that I like all of them. Of course, I'm out
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: here trying to book more and more, and I want
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to tell you I love every artist that comes through
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: here just the same. I gotta say I'm a little
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: partial to Motley cr Leppards up there. Now, don't jet
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: don't last on the bill, but not shouldn't be last? Um,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: good stuff, Chat, Thank you very much. Chad Johnson, Senior
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: repeat of Sales and Service. Back in a moment. Pete
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Prisco was at it again Today. We'll discuss his article
• 44:37
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• 44:42
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  Speaker 1: been a happy hour. It's been a good one so far. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first fifty minutes of it. We'll see how the final
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  Speaker 1: ten go. I don't want to celebrate. They want to
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  Speaker 1: pull Leon Lett before we get to the ins, because
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• 48:43
  Speaker 1: um the speaking of um, Well, this has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with that. But DeAndre Hopkins. We were earlier discussing
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  Speaker 1: cornerbacks and a j boy and how you replace that
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: spot on this football team, certainly considering and you said
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: your argument was that doesn't matter of the speeded receiver
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: all around the NFL, but in this division, there are
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  Speaker 1: some talented top end receivers, let's say it that way,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in this division. And you said that maybe DeAndre Hopkins
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: numbers what weren't what you thought they would be in
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: terms of yards per catch. Well, DeAndre Hopkins doesn't run
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a ton of vertical routes. I mean that's will four.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: He's the one that's going down. I mean he he's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the guy that that takes the top off of a defense.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to to disparage DeAndre Hopkins whatsoever.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: He's one of the best receivers in the game period.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: His his catch radius and catch percentage is is unbelievable.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But if you look at his numbers, they have they
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: have crept down throughout his career where to the point
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: where and you can see the trend to where when
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: he was younger he was fifteen ish yards per catch,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and where last year two years ago he might have
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: been like twelve or three years ago, about thirteen two
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: years ago, about twelve this past year round eleven ish?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Am I right point two this year okay? And the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: year before that it was thirteen point seven okay. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I mean you can see the trend where he's kind
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: of going down a little bit. But I mean he's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: still a great receiver. I'm not trying to to criticize
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: him in any way, shape or form. I'm just trying
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: to say that he's not the guy that you worry about,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: which is will Fuller. I mean, that's why will Fuller
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: made took that offense to a different level when he
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was acting, when he was hurt. It was not the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: same group because now you're talking about DeAndre Hopkins being
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: even better just because of the attention that Will Fuller
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Garner going vertical. So all that said, the JAG's gotta
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: figure that out next year. I'd be more worried about
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: finding a guy that's gonna cover cover DeAndre Hopkins, Hopkins
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and Fuller and Fuller. I mean in the division. I mean,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: if you look at the Tennessee, does Tennessee have a
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: guy that's been scaring you? The old guy? He's a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: guy and up and coming? The rookie? Uh? DK metcalf
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is a guy that was Is that him D came out?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Was that the guy in Seattle? I'm trying to remember
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the two? A J. Brown? A J. Brown, he's but
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: A Brown fantastic and he's big, He's got size to him. So, uh,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: does Indianapolis have a look? T Y Hilton doesn't scare
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: me anymore. I don't know. Just the memories I have
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: of him against this football That's the thing. It's memories
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you know he has you know? And is it is
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: a quarterback related maybe, but against the secondary that's not
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that that could be subpar in theory, that's not a
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: good matchup stuff for me, never is. But t Y
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Hilton does not scare me anymore. Let's go around the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: national Let's do that. Let's do it. Let's start off
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: with our friend Pete Priscoe. He was back at it
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: today on CBS sports dot Com. Here's the title of
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the article, logs how Jaguars. Pete does not write the title. Well,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: he writes the lead. We'll get to that in the moment.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: The title is how Jaguars went from doorstep of the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl to a dysfunctional mess in just two seasons.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: The subtitle is the Jaguars went off script on a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: key third down in the a f C Championship game
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and never right of the ship. So here's the lead.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: This is the first sentence of the entire story, and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: it's filled with commas, and it goes on and on
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: and on. It's hard to believe one play, one simple
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: play in a season full of deciding plays, could actually
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: turn a franchise completely around, taking it from a team
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: of rising young hockey players on the verge of special
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: times to a team in disarray with players being discarded
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: by an angry former coach in fighting in the locker
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: room and a team that again has become what it's
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: been for much of its twenty five year existence, a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: punching bag to the rest of the league and especially
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the national media. The next sentence, yes, that's exactly what
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: happened to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and he goes throughout the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: story of about six main reasons why that was the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: case over the last couple of years, and and really
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: went after the team. Well, I mean, wasn't. He's not
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the only one that's going after the team. There's been
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: other articles. In fact, a couple of days ago, a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: guy that writes for CBS Sports wrote an article that
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: was not very complementary of the Jaguars organization, and it
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: wasn't Pete. So look, the reality is, you gotta win.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: When you when you start putting out four wins, six wins,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and your success rate over the last number of years
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  Speaker 1: is amongst the bottom of the league, you have to
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  Speaker 1: change the narrative. And the only way that you change
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  Speaker 1: the narrative is by winning. That's it. No other way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have articles written about you like that,
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  Speaker 1: right when I don't want to have other people around
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  Speaker 1: the league laughing at you win. Quite simple, Let's move on.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: It's quite simple. The problem about people talking about you,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: but changing where you are to get to the point
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  Speaker 1: to winning is not easy. It's not don't we know
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  Speaker 1: If it was easy, everybody would be doing and this
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: team has not been doing it. No, it's not easy.
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  Speaker 1: Player voting has opened on the new labor deal. All
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  Speaker 1: members of the nfl p A from last season twenty
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: nineteen league year will be eligible to vote electronically. Remains
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  Speaker 1: open until March twelve, that's about a week away at
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: eleven pm Eastern time. A simple majority gets it ratified
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  Speaker 1: plus one to get the new CBA in effective. What
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Will you think it will pass? It'll pass,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: It'll pass at um, it's very very difficult. Having having
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  Speaker 1: been involved actively involved with the union for many years,
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  Speaker 1: I was a player rep. I was a vice president,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: which is executive committee member. And first of all, there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of positives with this new deal. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Things that the players are going to receive money wise,
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  Speaker 1: reduction and training, um. But most importantly the increase in money.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And you're talking about a significant increase in money for
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the guys that are on the lower end of the
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  Speaker 1: pay spectrum, which is that's the bulk of your vote.
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  Speaker 1: The rank and players league, that's the bulk of your
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: votes right there. So from from that standpoint, it'll pass,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and as it should pass, because the only way that
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: it doesn't pass is that you've got to have a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: complete player body that is willing to not play football
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and to not get paid for a year or two.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: And I don't I don't see I don't see the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: union and its membership willing to do that. It's hard.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: It's hard, JP. I mean, you're talking about the average
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: career length on the National Football League is about three
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and a half four years. And look, you know what
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: most guys thoughts are, I'm not giving up my chicken.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sacrificing my chicken for some guy down the road.
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  Speaker 1: Forget it. I'm not doing it about my chicken. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of chicken. Princeton, Yes, Princeton University announcing that Marshawn Lynch
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: has been named the senior Class Day speaker in June,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and Princeton promoted his quote sustained professional excellence. This is
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: not the commencement ceremony. This is a different ceremony before
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: the commencement. The op head, though the student newspaper came
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: out a little later against the selection process. Uh. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: of course, his notable quote after the playoff loss to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the Packers last year was start taking care of y'all, mentals,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: your bodies, your chicken, and when you're ready to walk away,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: you'll walk away and be able to do what you
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: wanna do. Let's see if um. I mean Also, it's
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a it's a rooster. It's all you know, it's all
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: good advice. I guess right, We'll see what he says.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: He's got a great messages his Uh, it's a different
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: way of presenting it when he starts talking about chickens
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and mentals and and all that kind of stuff. But
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's actually a very interesting mix. Marshawn Lynz
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  Speaker 1: at at the campus of Princeton, and uh, Princeton's uh
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: great school, and I think that Marshawn Lynch would add
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a lot as a speaker. I think he would be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: very interesting and very entertaining. And I think it would
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: be good for the student body of Princeton to hear that.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But some of the student body
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily think so, because some of them have been
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: criticizing Marshawn Lynch because you're talking about bringing in a
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: speaker who has in his past, and they made note
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: of this in his past has refused to speak at
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: different times. For a speaker, that's kind of one of
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the qualifications you need to speak first, where he sometimes
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: instead the only time reason he wants to speak because
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to get fined. But interesting, nonetheless, reports
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: reports today our final one here. I think I saw
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: this first in the New York Post today that ESPN
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is plotting a dream Monday Night Football announced Booth al
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Michael's and Peyton Manning could be in the fold with
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: the ESPN. They're trying to acquire Michaels, who's under contract
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: with NBC. Terrico's the heir apparent. It seems like an NBC.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Of course, the end of Michael's contract coincides to the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in l a and early now. If you remember,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Al Michaels was traded basically the last time he went
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: over to NBC, well, he was at ABC on Monday
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Night Football, John Madden left to go to NBC. He
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: still had a contract, but to let him out of
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the contract, ESPN run by Disney wanted the Eights to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Oswald the Lucky Rabbit back from NBC Universal, which is
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the precursor character to Mickey Mouse. So they made that trade,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and now Michaels went to NBC. I think the league
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: got involved with that a little bit too. Maybe we'll
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: see what happens. Could come back the other way, that
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: would be a great Monday night cruise. It would be
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I would watch it more because I can tell you
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: what I listened to last year was was terrible. I did.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: In fact, I turned the volume off on Monday Night
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Football last year, and I hope that changes this year because, UH,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: continuing on with that is just ridiculous. Blugs, good to
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: see it, good to be good to be back, and uh,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: we'll catch you next week. We got it. Jeff Lgan,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: J P. Shatrick, our entire crew, thank you for listening.
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