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- 0:19Speaker 2: Today.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Hello friends, I'm your host, christ Throw. I'm a former
- 0:25Speaker 3: Rumeries commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across
- 0:31Speaker 3: eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port
- 0:36Speaker 3: the t Shirt Podcast? Neil, How are you, sir?
- 0:47Speaker 2: I'm great. Good to see you again, to see what
- 0:49Speaker 2: I did there.
- 0:49Speaker 3: I got the military respect thing in at the same
- 0:52Speaker 3: time as welcoming you onto my fantastic show.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Good to see you again anyway. Hope
- 0:59Speaker 2: you had a good trip.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. Yes, I don't know if good is
- 1:05Speaker 3: the right the right choice of words. It was wet ye, yes, so, Neil,
- 1:12Speaker 3: and welcome back on the show. You've certainly got your
- 1:15Speaker 3: feet under the table on the Bought the t Shirt Podcast.
- 1:18Speaker 3: By now, we worked together, didn't we, with the Global
- 1:21Speaker 3: Veterans Alliance during the let's call it the medical nonsense.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Everyone knows what we're talking about I think we were.
- 1:30Speaker 3: We were certainly in a tiny minority of veterans that
- 1:35Speaker 3: took a stance when really all veterans should have stood
- 1:39Speaker 3: up to the plate. Neil, would you agree, Yeah, I
- 1:42Speaker 3: think you know.
- 1:43Speaker 2: But as you said as well, it's a lot of
- 1:44Speaker 2: its mind control stuff and people just you know, not
- 1:47Speaker 2: familiar with the realities of life. I'm afraid. Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 3: And just quick, can you just give us a quick
- 1:54Speaker 3: overview of your background, Neil? I know you were an
- 1:57Speaker 3: officer in the Ink Core, weren't you.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Yeah. I was a daughter door salesman, so I started
- 2:03Speaker 2: life for about a few years. But I went to
- 2:05Speaker 2: Sandhurst in eighty one, and I remember when I went
- 2:09Speaker 2: through my first interview and I told him what I
- 2:11Speaker 2: had done before I went into the army, said, oh, yeah,
- 2:13Speaker 2: I'd make it, and I thought, well you too, you know,
- 2:16Speaker 2: But that was the start of my military career. And
- 2:20Speaker 2: I just went into the incorps because it was a
- 2:22Speaker 2: very interesting line of work and I'd never heard about
- 2:25Speaker 2: them before I got to Sanders. So I ended up,
- 2:27Speaker 2: you know, volunteering for some units over the water back
- 2:32Speaker 2: in the eighties nineties, so I'd gone in there for
- 2:35Speaker 2: it wasn't just a sit in the office all day,
- 2:37Speaker 2: and it's the same today. Really. I retired in ninety
- 2:40Speaker 2: seven and I went into the security industry and I
- 2:43Speaker 2: ran a lot of companies for Group Pop as they
- 2:45Speaker 2: were then, and then I worked for some other big groups,
- 2:48Speaker 2: you know, major corporations on the what would you call it,
- 2:52Speaker 2: the corporate director side, before realizing what I mess everything
- 2:56Speaker 2: is ever since, really I'm quite political. Really, That's why
- 2:59Speaker 2: I've set up what I've set up. You know, I
- 3:02Speaker 2: saw what Tony Blair was doing to the UK quite frankly,
- 3:05Speaker 2: and and all of his crew because he's not alone.
- 3:08Speaker 2: And ever since, you know, we've seen this continual deterioration
- 3:11Speaker 2: which had begun long before, but was accelerated by those
- 3:16Speaker 2: people then. Anyway, So I ended up about ten years ago,
- 3:20Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, realizing it's time to get out of
- 3:22Speaker 2: the game and to start looking at these freedom issues.
- 3:25Speaker 2: So that's what I've done really since then, a lot
- 3:28Speaker 2: of stuff with helpingex Muslims, working with you know, people
- 3:32Speaker 2: like you, good guys, trying to do something on the
- 3:35Speaker 2: veteran side, but only not only on the veteran side,
- 3:38Speaker 2: but for the nation. You know, trying to help kids
- 3:41Speaker 2: not get jabbed. I mean, that's a pretty good thing
- 3:43Speaker 2: to do. Chris, I thought he did a wonderful job there.
- 3:45Speaker 2: So that's what I do. And I look on the
- 3:48Speaker 2: direct democracy side now to help people understand really that
- 3:52Speaker 2: if you look at Switzerland, they have regular referendums all
- 3:55Speaker 2: the time, four times a year. They can vote on
- 3:57Speaker 2: stuff that they can put forward. So I'm work with
- 4:01Speaker 2: a group called the Direct Democracy Movement and I've set
- 4:04Speaker 2: up very recently variously the Veterans for Freedom dot UK group,
- 4:10Speaker 2: which is basically at the moment it's just me but anyway,
- 4:13Speaker 2: you know, I've set it up the websites there, but
- 4:16Speaker 2: it's quite a political group looking after the big five
- 4:19Speaker 2: freedoms and that the big fight. Oh you know, obviously,
- 4:23Speaker 2: freedom of belief you can choose what you want to believe,
- 4:25Speaker 2: Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly
- 4:29Speaker 2: so we can march, And freedom to petition, which is
- 4:32Speaker 2: and that is the first Amendment as well, funny enough
- 4:35Speaker 2: to the United States Constitution, the first of their Bill
- 4:38Speaker 2: of rights, but the petitioning one is also about the
- 4:42Speaker 2: right to call for referendums because unless you me and others,
- 4:46Speaker 2: you know that the people. If we can't call for referendums,
- 4:49Speaker 2: we can never hold these clowns to account. So I'm
- 4:52Speaker 2: not saying they shouldn't be political parties, but they should
- 4:55Speaker 2: be under our control, you know, right now most of
- 4:58Speaker 2: the time if we want to do something, So that's me,
- 5:00Speaker 2: That's what I do.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Roger, got you, got you? So just I want to
- 5:04Speaker 3: peel back because people are increasingly becoming aware of something.
- 5:12Speaker 3: I don't think the majority are aware to the level
- 5:16Speaker 3: that you are at, Neil, And I definitely know they're
- 5:19Speaker 3: not aware to the level that I'm at because we're
- 5:23Speaker 3: talking sort of even a different dimension there perhaps, But
- 5:28Speaker 3: before we do, and yes, it would be great if
- 5:31Speaker 3: the people that took an oath to protect this country
- 5:34Speaker 3: realize what they're up against. Plethra of challenges, but not
- 5:43Speaker 3: least of which the rampant illegal immigration which we have
- 5:48Speaker 3: been subjected to and I use the words subjected purpose fully.
- 5:54Speaker 3: But before we go there, having a fellow veteran and
- 5:58Speaker 3: intelligence officer on the show, can I just ask you
- 6:02Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on seven seven Brigade?
- 6:04Speaker 2: So right, seven seven was set up obviously after I
- 6:07Speaker 2: had left the military, because I lost I left in
- 6:09Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven, and yeah, there's no talk of things
- 6:12Speaker 2: like that in those days. I don't remember, but obviously
- 6:15Speaker 2: times changed. But my thoughts are, you know, what are
- 6:18Speaker 2: we doing if we're in the intelligence schore and what
- 6:20Speaker 2: are we doing if we're looking into all of these
- 6:22Speaker 2: issues that government are you know, requiring these soldiers to
- 6:27Speaker 2: look into that are to do with They all call
- 6:29Speaker 2: it a national security, but really a lot of them
- 6:31Speaker 2: are party political interests and also external national interests on
- 6:36Speaker 2: the part of this huge corporations stroke, you know, agencies.
- 6:41Speaker 3: And globalists, globalists is a.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Globalist absolutely, that's they're the ones that are pushing in so
- 6:48Speaker 2: the whole agenda. So we know, let's be frank. You've
- 6:51Speaker 2: got to remember Starmer sat on camera, I think he
- 6:53Speaker 2: was talking to Emily Mattliss as she asked him, so,
- 6:57Speaker 2: you know, k, what is your number one? Bavos or Westminster?
- 7:02Speaker 2: And he answered Bavos. So in other words, here we've
- 7:05Speaker 2: got an MP at the time that he was party
- 7:08Speaker 2: leader for the labor now running the country. But his
- 7:10Speaker 2: real source of interests are Bavos, the WEF that's where
- 7:15Speaker 2: or that type you know, that's just shorthand for globalists.
- 7:19Speaker 2: So our national leaders have all been corrupted. You know,
- 7:22Speaker 2: they are all a problem now for the people of
- 7:24Speaker 2: their own countries, or not all, but the vast majority,
- 7:27Speaker 2: because they are answering to these supernational interests to an extent.
- 7:31Speaker 2: I've always had a heavy influence on us, but it's
- 7:34Speaker 2: got worse in recent years, undoubtedly, you know. And you
- 7:38Speaker 2: just need to look at our business interests. For instance, Chris,
- 7:41Speaker 2: the UK economy when I was young in the eighties,
- 7:43Speaker 2: only three percent was owned by American interests, okay, and
- 7:47Speaker 2: now the Stock exchange is now thirty percent by American interests.
- 7:52Speaker 2: So all that profit they used to be poured back
- 7:54Speaker 2: into British industries went to British jobs and work is
- 7:57Speaker 2: now funneled abroad. So yeah, job, but there's no profit
- 8:01Speaker 2: for the nation that used to be retained and used it.
- 8:04Speaker 2: So these are just signs of the supernational banking interests
- 8:08Speaker 2: that are financial interests, because you know, most of the
- 8:12Speaker 2: world's economy is now owned by about thirty financial groups,
- 8:16Speaker 2: and that was in twenty fifteen. These figures came out
- 8:19Speaker 2: when a Swiss group looked into it. So yeah, I know,
- 8:22Speaker 2: I agree with you. As well in terms of I
- 8:24Speaker 2: know you're a very spiritual guy, and I've looked at
- 8:26Speaker 2: all of that side of life as well, and I
- 8:28Speaker 2: don't disagree with what you're doing at all on that.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I think good for you. It says. I'm trying to
- 8:32Speaker 2: look at the how do we help change it on
- 8:34Speaker 2: the ground with political maneuvering, and that is about us
- 8:39Speaker 2: taking control as of people. But we do need freedom
- 8:42Speaker 2: of press, we do need freedom of speech if you're
- 8:44Speaker 2: going to talk about these things that you want to
- 8:46Speaker 2: talk about. You know, the immigration issue is obviously the
- 8:49Speaker 2: massive one at the moment, has been for a long time,
- 8:52Speaker 2: and all stars doing is delaying our concerns. And each
- 8:58Speaker 2: time more people come in, he'll throw out some red
- 9:01Speaker 2: meat occasionally to keep us at bait. But we can't
- 9:04Speaker 2: control them whatsoever, can we? And he knows it. So
- 9:07Speaker 2: if he can last till twenty twenty nine, yeah, we're
- 9:10Speaker 2: in deep pooh pooh r A. Then are we know
- 9:13Speaker 2: what we're going to be able to do to this out?
- 9:14Speaker 2: It's going to get very difficult.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Yes, So a couple of things down. I just want
- 9:19Speaker 3: to get back to the seven seven brigade as well.
- 9:21Speaker 3: But the whole spiritual thing. You know, we we live
- 9:26Speaker 3: in a material dimension, don't we. That's undeniable. The reason
- 9:32Speaker 3: I'm having you on the show, Neil, is I want
- 9:35Speaker 3: to expose this dark network. And when you say that,
- 9:40Speaker 3: you know thirty percent is owned by America. It's not
- 9:43Speaker 3: really America, is It's not the wonderful American taxpayer, our
- 9:47Speaker 3: brothers and sisters who we love dearly and who we've
- 9:50Speaker 3: got a special bond with. It's the merchant class and
- 9:54Speaker 3: they net network exceptionally. They've got their own rules. They
- 10:00Speaker 3: control so many narratives, whether it's the black narrative, the
- 10:04Speaker 3: Second World War narrative, the medical narrative, which is a
- 10:10Speaker 3: huge one. Once you really realize the source of ill health,
- 10:15Speaker 3: you you won't believe. You want to go and smack
- 10:18Speaker 3: your mother for teaching all that bloody superstitious nonsense.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:23Speaker 3: So, so yeah, with the spiritual thing, it's that, yes,
- 10:27Speaker 3: we have to fight it in the material realm because
- 10:29Speaker 3: that's what we live in and ultimately create the future
- 10:34Speaker 3: for our children. But also we need to acknowledge it's
- 10:38Speaker 3: an energy battle. They are controlling people through fear, fear
- 10:44Speaker 3: and trauma trauma based mind control. That could be. That
- 10:50Speaker 3: could be something as simple as the beauty magazine culture
- 10:53Speaker 3: that we subject our young females to and the utter
- 11:00Speaker 3: psychological damage it does to them throughout the rest of
- 11:03Speaker 3: their life. That's now men as well, with the muscle
- 11:07Speaker 3: magazine men's health kind of cultures. So that's I just
- 11:13Speaker 3: wanted to clarify that, Neil, because the word spiritual is
- 11:16Speaker 3: so misunderstood. I go with scripture. I go with the
- 11:21Speaker 3: esoteric code that was laid down through you know, for
- 11:26Speaker 3: centuries and centuries of understanding what is sort of going on?
- 11:32Speaker 3: Getting back to the seven seven? How is it that
- 11:36Speaker 3: our so called loyal military who should be supporting the people?
- 11:41Speaker 3: And I get it. I've been, you know, on active service.
- 11:45Speaker 3: You you know how it is you. You follow orders,
- 11:48Speaker 3: you want to do your best, you want to shine you.
- 11:54Speaker 3: You know, you're not the most worldly wise person while
- 11:57Speaker 3: you serve, because you join as a kid, you join
- 11:59Speaker 3: as a bloody teenager. How is it We've got a
- 12:02Speaker 3: situation where there's a warehouse somewhere and it's full of
- 12:06Speaker 3: computer gadgetary and soldiers and their sole job is to
- 12:11Speaker 3: sit there all day long, sewing or attacking the narrative
- 12:17Speaker 3: on behalf of not the country's interests. But in the case,
- 12:22Speaker 3: I'm just going to use the word medical narrative. Everyone
- 12:25Speaker 3: knows what I'm talking about, that medical thing that we
- 12:28Speaker 3: all experienced. That they actually sat there making out that
- 12:33Speaker 3: they was like you know, great Aunt Matilda sat in
- 12:38Speaker 3: Australia and attacking anyone that dared question whether these things
- 12:44Speaker 3: were dangerous, whether it's right to lock the whole planet
- 12:50Speaker 3: in their homes for in some cases for two years.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Just a little aside. There another person I know died
- 13:00Speaker 3: the other day. This was you know, let's just say
- 13:03Speaker 3: it was related to being locked in the in the home.
- 13:06Speaker 3: It triggered a mental health episode for them. And there's
- 13:11Speaker 3: subsequent lifestyle choices. You know that they died at forty five,
- 13:15Speaker 3: So this is this is a thing, right, So sorry,
- 13:18Speaker 3: I I will get to the point. But how have
- 13:22Speaker 3: we got to the situation where there was one time
- 13:26Speaker 3: in British military issue where the young men actually went
- 13:29Speaker 3: to fight and they you can have, you know, whatever
- 13:32Speaker 3: view you want on who they were fighting for, the
- 13:35Speaker 3: rothschilds or whatever, and I know what I believe, but
- 13:38Speaker 3: at least they thought that they was doing a good thing. Yeah,
- 13:41Speaker 3: how have we ended up in this situation where they're
- 13:44Speaker 3: against their own people.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I find it strange as well, and I noticed it.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I've left the military, you know, and the island was
- 13:51Speaker 2: over and all the cold walks up behind it. That's
- 13:53Speaker 2: when I left it in ninety seven. But it was
- 13:56Speaker 2: during the Golf War. You remember, Scarlet was head of
- 13:59Speaker 2: m I okay and he was persuaded by you know,
- 14:03Speaker 2: the cabinet guys Campbell and Lare to hand over these
- 14:07Speaker 2: you know, these reports that said it was forty five
- 14:10Speaker 2: minute threat. But this was the famous thing at the time.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Well that's where you start to see the intelligence skep
- 14:16Speaker 2: being pulled in and utilized openly by the political class.
- 14:20Speaker 2: So they became and I know he regrets that. I
- 14:24Speaker 2: know people from five and six in particular, Five said that,
- 14:28Speaker 2: you know, he now regrets that decision. But he did it,
- 14:30Speaker 2: didn't he. So Scarlet started allowing the intelligence people to
- 14:35Speaker 2: be utilized more openly, et cetera. I think after that
- 14:39Speaker 2: you had seventy seven Brigade set up a few years later,
- 14:42Speaker 2: and you'd seen this subordination and lack of integrity. Really
- 14:47Speaker 2: quite frankly, in my opinion because I looked at Scarlett.
- 14:50Speaker 2: I hated the guy. You know, when I heard what
- 14:52Speaker 2: he was doing, I thought, you're destroying supposed to be
- 14:55Speaker 2: this separate outfit that does report in the interest the nation. Now,
- 15:01Speaker 2: the political class are all compromised practically, but you know
- 15:04Speaker 2: a lot of the people in the intelligence going will
- 15:07Speaker 2: sidle off on retirement into well paid, you know, jobs
- 15:09Speaker 2: in the city, et cetera. So you can get compromised
- 15:12Speaker 2: in that fashion. You might not believe you will be compromised,
- 15:15Speaker 2: but because you believe you're doing the best for it,
- 15:17Speaker 2: not only yourself but for the nation. Blah blah blah.
- 15:19Speaker 2: So I think it's just, you know, all that that
- 15:22Speaker 2: kind of slipped into the lack of integrity, and I
- 15:25Speaker 2: think that has happened. You know, I think I don't
- 15:28Speaker 2: keep in touch with the army guys at all. I've
- 15:30Speaker 2: only seen some friends in the last you know, thirty years,
- 15:33Speaker 2: or a couple of times really a few times since
- 15:35Speaker 2: I left. I mixed with a lot of military people,
- 15:38Speaker 2: but I don't know anyone who's ever been in seventy
- 15:40Speaker 2: seven and I don't know anything about it. But you know,
- 15:43Speaker 2: anyone who's going to use you know, the assets against
- 15:46Speaker 2: us for a medical emergency. It shows how completely subordinated
- 15:51Speaker 2: everything And I think Scarlet didn't help with that. He
- 15:54Speaker 2: started or made the slippery slide even steeper and we
- 15:58Speaker 2: went down it. So I think that those are the issues.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Yeah, when you look at all the intelligence apparatus around
- 16:05Speaker 3: the globe, but it's all been used for the dark
- 16:08Speaker 3: orders and it's all been co opted. Just got to
- 16:11Speaker 3: look at those events in New York and Washington twenty
- 16:14Speaker 3: years ago, and there was a certain intelligence ag Their
- 16:18Speaker 3: fingerprints were just all over it. Then when you look
- 16:21Speaker 3: at you know, let's just say events in this country
- 16:24Speaker 3: where things go bang. We all know the events I'm
- 16:27Speaker 3: talking about again, there's just there's so many glowing examples
- 16:33Speaker 3: of the impossibility of the official, you know, narratives. But
- 16:38Speaker 3: moving on, do you think people are starting to become
- 16:40Speaker 3: aware now? If you just look look at our prime ministers,
- 16:43Speaker 3: you had Tony Blair or Anthony was it Linton Blair
- 16:51Speaker 3: I'm going to say, allegedly but arrested twice. The indecency
- 16:57Speaker 3: in a gentleman's toilets. What we know is cottage in
- 17:01Speaker 3: I believe it's called And now you've got Starmer who's
- 17:08Speaker 3: not a lot of people know this, but his adopted
- 17:10Speaker 3: faith is Judaism. And the reason I say that is
- 17:15Speaker 3: that has massive implications in itself when you become under
- 17:19Speaker 3: the tentacles of Israel. Let's just say, you know, there's
- 17:23Speaker 3: just there's a whole lot more stuff there again for
- 17:26Speaker 3: someone who should be what's that word when you stay
- 17:29Speaker 3: on the fence, you know, you know, noncommitted. It's it's
- 17:35Speaker 3: almost like him. Well, and then of course you've got
- 17:38Speaker 3: all these rent boys coming out the every time he
- 17:41Speaker 3: gets a new car, it gets burnt to the ground apparently.
- 17:44Speaker 3: And then of course the stuff's coming out about let's
- 17:48Speaker 3: just say, the children from the Operation you Tree and
- 17:52Speaker 3: the sixties and and a lot of that points at
- 17:56Speaker 3: our politicians. Do you think the public are going to
- 17:59Speaker 3: start put two and two together and realize that to
- 18:02Speaker 3: be a politician you have to become you have to
- 18:06Speaker 3: be black, blackmailable, and yeah you have to. Sorry, just
- 18:11Speaker 3: just an example, when the whole country, in fact, one
- 18:15Speaker 3: million people march in London saying no, we don't want
- 18:19Speaker 3: a war with Iraq. They've done nothing to us and
- 18:22Speaker 3: are certain do we be president? Prime Minister gets that,
- 18:25Speaker 3: and goes, who your weapons have mastered in forty five minutes,
- 18:30Speaker 3: and and and you know you can physically see the
- 18:35Speaker 3: fear in his eyes that if I don't keep selling
- 18:38Speaker 3: this narrative, they're going to show everyone the photos and
- 18:42Speaker 3: video of me.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. I think compromises common. You know,
- 18:49Speaker 2: you look back, we used to look at the KGB
- 18:51Speaker 2: and they used to compromise ambassadors in Moscow with some
- 18:55Speaker 2: tart with them or whatever. As all of those things
- 18:57Speaker 2: are going on. But of course were we not doing that.
- 18:59Speaker 2: I'm sure somebody probably was, you know, and it would
- 19:02Speaker 2: have been exactly the same pattern, you know, get them
- 19:05Speaker 2: compromised in some form or other. Because all's fair in
- 19:07Speaker 2: love and war, but particularly when you're looking after you know,
- 19:11Speaker 2: it's not just national interest like you said, it's a
- 19:13Speaker 2: greater interest beyond that, the city of London, you know,
- 19:18Speaker 2: the FED in America, whatever it is. So I think
- 19:21Speaker 2: people are more and more aware, and I think obviously
- 19:23Speaker 2: the internet podcast like yours just you know, all these
- 19:26Speaker 2: different people who are talking about these things. It's becoming
- 19:29Speaker 2: impossible to hide it. And you know I heard again recently,
- 19:34Speaker 2: you know, yesterday, that they expect more to come out
- 19:37Speaker 2: on JFK and all of this stuff. So Trump, you know,
- 19:40Speaker 2: he's got his issues, but by help, I'll tell you what,
- 19:43Speaker 2: he's a lot more open than these other clowns. I mean,
- 19:46Speaker 2: when you look at what Biden was like, when you
- 19:48Speaker 2: see what we've got with Starma, then at least you know,
- 19:51Speaker 2: you're you're hopeful that more will come out the world,
- 19:53Speaker 2: as you say, wake even more people up. But it's
- 19:56Speaker 2: a long haul made because you know, the old media
- 20:00Speaker 2: is still in place. The publishing industry is only owned
- 20:03Speaker 2: by five publishers. You know, like I said, there's thirty
- 20:06Speaker 2: companies around the world or groups around the world that
- 20:08Speaker 2: own most of the planet. Half of the top three
- 20:11Speaker 2: hundred companies in the world we're own or half of
- 20:14Speaker 2: their shares controlling interests are owned by these thirty groups.
- 20:17Speaker 2: So these massive conglomerations with thousands of names under them
- 20:20Speaker 2: are controlled by very few people. On these boats and
- 20:24Speaker 2: on the board are some of the you know, the
- 20:26Speaker 2: most famous names, no doubt, or so some of them
- 20:28Speaker 2: at least least known probably as well. So yeah, I
- 20:31Speaker 2: think there is a growing awareness and you know, we
- 20:33Speaker 2: just got to keep banging away. But you know, as
- 20:36Speaker 2: I said, I work with this group. We're looking again
- 20:38Speaker 2: direct democracy, where we get the final say on all
- 20:41Speaker 2: the laws coming out. If we want it, we can
- 20:43Speaker 2: call a referendum, or we implement an idea for a
- 20:47Speaker 2: referendum and get support for it. Now. This is similar
- 20:50Speaker 2: to what the Swiss have been doing, okay, but we
- 20:52Speaker 2: can even improve on that and take greater control in Britain.
- 20:55Speaker 2: And you know, we've got supporters, I've got We've even
- 20:58Speaker 2: got people standing as candidates, you know, all this idea now,
- 21:01Speaker 2: and we've got the first counselor up in Wellingborow recently,
- 21:04Speaker 2: so you know, you've got to get active on the
- 21:06Speaker 2: ground work from the bottom up, coming from the top down.
- 21:09Speaker 2: But even or not Nigel Pharaoh's I gave him my
- 21:12Speaker 2: book this one. I'm not trying to sell this here
- 21:14Speaker 2: because you can get this for free on our website
- 21:16Speaker 2: d D right now, and you can get a free
- 21:19Speaker 2: version on the audio so people can listen to it
- 21:22Speaker 2: and you don't need to buy it. But the bottom
- 21:24Speaker 2: line is, like you, I'm trying to get the message
- 21:26Speaker 2: out and I'll cover all these some of these things,
- 21:29Speaker 2: a lot of these things that we're talking about now,
- 21:31Speaker 2: but Yeah, I think people are wising up, maybe more
- 21:34Speaker 2: so than we realize. And they're young, maybe even more so,
- 21:37Speaker 2: because you know, they're looking at a lot of this stuff,
- 21:38Speaker 2: and they're looking at the independent guys on YouTube like
- 21:41Speaker 2: you and others as well as well as you know,
- 21:43Speaker 2: us old folks. You know, I'm near retirement and retire
- 21:46Speaker 2: next year, you know, So there goes. I think it's
- 21:49Speaker 2: going across the board.
- 21:51Speaker 3: Now, what what's so Switzerland? Bloody lovely chocolate by the way,
- 21:57Speaker 3: Sorry with a podcasts, weren't we what we're talking about?
- 22:00Speaker 2: Year?
- 22:00Speaker 3: Switzerland? Are they subjected to rampant illegal immigration?
- 22:06Speaker 2: Funnily enough, no, they're not. No, you know, the Swiss
- 22:09Speaker 2: have very tight controls. Twenty percent of them are people
- 22:13Speaker 2: who work there who are not Swiss. Only eighty percent
- 22:15Speaker 2: of the people we are residing in Switzerland have the boat.
- 22:18Speaker 2: They're very tightly controlled. And if you want to get
- 22:21Speaker 2: to get into the elections in Switzerland, you have to
- 22:25Speaker 2: go through the local people first, and they'll give a
- 22:28Speaker 2: little meeting. They'll have a meeting and they'll put that
- 22:31Speaker 2: forward to the canton, and then the canton, like our
- 22:33Speaker 2: county equivalent, will pass it up to the top. So
- 22:36Speaker 2: you know, if you haven't put yourself out to help
- 22:39Speaker 2: the country in the five years, eight years, whatever it
- 22:42Speaker 2: takes to even apply, then you ain't getting residency in
- 22:45Speaker 2: terms of your boat. So the voting is very much
- 22:48Speaker 2: controlled by the Swiss, which is why it has It's
- 22:51Speaker 2: got the lowest murder rate alongside Japan at the bottom
- 22:54Speaker 2: of the table in terms of crime, hardly any and
- 22:57Speaker 2: then at the top end it's got one of the
- 22:59Speaker 2: top salaries on the planet. But that's because they've got
- 23:02Speaker 2: great education. But who chooses the education, Chris for the
- 23:05Speaker 2: last one hundred and forty eight years, you see, it's
- 23:07Speaker 2: the Swiss people. You know, they've got more Nobel prizes
- 23:10Speaker 2: per head people than we have in the Americans. Out
- 23:13Speaker 2: Israel has doesn't matter what country then you know, I
- 23:16Speaker 2: think their third on the list, and the other two
- 23:18Speaker 2: are tiny little islands. So these guys have superb education.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Einstein was educated there and he kept his Swiss passport
- 23:25Speaker 2: till he died, and he said they were the nicest people,
- 23:28Speaker 2: the kindest people get seen on the planet. But that'll
- 23:31Speaker 2: be because Chris, they control it. The people are equal,
- 23:35Speaker 2: they have the same weight, they can carry forward referendums.
- 23:38Speaker 2: You know, you don't get told by some party person.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I mean, we've got whips here, haven't we Party whips?
- 23:44Speaker 2: That is telling you everything you need to know about politics,
- 23:47Speaker 2: doesn't it. Really? The whip comes in and he tells
- 23:50Speaker 2: the MP do this, do that. If you don't, you'll
- 23:53Speaker 2: never get that plumb job, will you. And that's where
- 23:55Speaker 2: the compromise stuff comes in, mate, If you want to
- 23:58Speaker 2: get ahead, if you see a leader the party, if
- 24:00Speaker 2: you see senior ministers, you know, somewhere along the line,
- 24:05Speaker 2: they've had to bow their head and be told what
- 24:07Speaker 2: to do. Unless they can prove they would do that,
- 24:10Speaker 2: they ain't getting that job. So that all compromise at
- 24:13Speaker 2: that level, I believe, And maybe some of the backbenchers
- 24:15Speaker 2: are not, you know, like Andrew Bridgen. Yeah, look at him.
- 24:18Speaker 2: He stood up and fought against them and he's out.
- 24:21Speaker 2: You know, his life is completely disrupted and he's thrown
- 24:26Speaker 2: to the wolves because he didn't take the whip. And
- 24:29Speaker 2: then and what was it over trying to save children
- 24:31Speaker 2: getting killed? I mean there's integrity and the rest of
- 24:34Speaker 2: them show their lack of it.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another thing about the old spiritual battle spirit
- 24:40Speaker 3: spiritual is a very misleading world. I think everyone thinks
- 24:44Speaker 3: it's like about religion or something. Let's call it the
- 24:47Speaker 3: energy battle is during the medical nonsense, I'll work for
- 24:52Speaker 3: two years for free at that Neil, you know, putting
- 24:55Speaker 3: the Global Veterans Alliance together. I think I did the
- 24:59Speaker 3: odd podcast during that that period. It was phenomenally. It
- 25:05Speaker 3: was a phenomenal workload and a massive stress. And here's
- 25:11Speaker 3: the thing though, I'm not complaining because you know it
- 25:15Speaker 3: was it easier for a camel to pass through the
- 25:18Speaker 3: eye of a needle than for a rich man to
- 25:20Speaker 3: go to heaven. It just means to live in paradise.
- 25:23Speaker 3: You go with your values, You go with what is
- 25:26Speaker 3: right for the next generation. You don't bring children into
- 25:29Speaker 3: this world if you're not going to protect those little
- 25:32Speaker 3: you know those can I say little sods? Is that
- 25:35Speaker 3: I sound like my bloody parents generation, the little ones?
- 25:39Speaker 3: You know what I mean? But I can tell you now,
- 25:42Speaker 3: I was chatting with special Forces who were saying it's wrong, Chris,
- 25:47Speaker 3: isn't it? It's wrong what they' And I'm like, yeah,
- 25:50Speaker 3: we'll be in London next Saturday. You're going to be there,
- 25:53Speaker 3: aren't you. Ah? It kind of conflicts with me. You know,
- 25:59Speaker 3: I could be for what I say it because I
- 26:01Speaker 3: don't want to drop anyone in the ship, but you
- 26:04Speaker 3: know it conflicts with the group that I belong to
- 26:07Speaker 3: on a bloody Monday evening or what do you know
- 26:10Speaker 3: what I mean? Oh, you know, I might be ostracite
- 26:14Speaker 3: or or I'm selling this product at the moment, Chris,
- 26:17Speaker 3: and I don't want it to. You know, me standing
- 26:21Speaker 3: up for the kids might have an effect on sale,
- 26:23Speaker 3: and it was. It was all of that, and I'm
- 26:26Speaker 3: not I'm not having a go Neil. I don't judge
- 26:28Speaker 3: other people. I understand the energy battle. I know, I
- 26:31Speaker 3: know how it all works. You know. That's why great.
- 26:35Speaker 3: The beautiful thing is you can work on yourself and
- 26:38Speaker 3: all the answers are inside you. So that's kind of you. No,
- 26:43Speaker 3: so sorry, I went slightly on a tangent. Then bringing
- 26:46Speaker 3: it back to the to the Swiss, do you think
- 26:49Speaker 3: that they've got it good there because it's it's stability
- 26:54Speaker 3: for the banks.
- 26:56Speaker 2: No, I don't. It's possible. Who knows, because you know
- 26:58Speaker 2: those links go back off see some time, and there's
- 27:01Speaker 2: all kinds of stories about the templars and all of
- 27:04Speaker 2: this putting their money in there. But it's following that
- 27:07Speaker 2: trail in these ancient books and finding your way through that.
- 27:11Speaker 2: This makes it different, difficult to assess it completely because
- 27:14Speaker 2: you know, as an intelligence guy, I'm looking for pretty
- 27:17Speaker 2: solid evidence, you know. So I think they went very
- 27:20Speaker 2: early on the forget and fought the Habsburgs back in
- 27:23Speaker 2: the fourteenth century. They fought for their freedom long before banking. Okay,
- 27:28Speaker 2: the Swiss, these little cantons, just three of them got
- 27:30Speaker 2: together at the start, and they are hill men. You know.
- 27:33Speaker 2: He took a hill men who were the best soldiers
- 27:34Speaker 2: in Europe, famous as mercenaries, and Thomas Moore when he
- 27:38Speaker 2: wrote his book in Utopia, people traded the Swiss as
- 27:42Speaker 2: people should be slaughtered because they were very effective mercenaries. Okay,
- 27:47Speaker 2: because they would they'd rent themselves out all over Europe
- 27:50Speaker 2: to fight weather. So the Swiss, the banking thing is secondary.
- 27:53Speaker 2: The freedom thing came first. That's what happened. And then
- 27:57Speaker 2: you know they were fighting within the cantor so and
- 28:00Speaker 2: within the Cantonans. You had lots of little wars and seventeenth,
- 28:04Speaker 2: eighteenth and sixteenth century as well, between the townspeople and
- 28:08Speaker 2: the country people. The townspeople were the merchants again. See
- 28:11Speaker 2: so it's not just banking. It's about money, isn't it.
- 28:15Speaker 2: It's control of that. And then eventually they had a
- 28:17Speaker 2: civil war in eighteen forty seven and they went into
- 28:21Speaker 2: this idea of having these referendums on all constitutional issues
- 28:25Speaker 2: eighteen forty eight, same time as the Communists started with
- 28:29Speaker 2: the Communist Manifesto. So you've had this experiment. You've had
- 28:32Speaker 2: the Communists with eighteen forty eight, and you've had the
- 28:34Speaker 2: Swiss since eighteen forty eight. So you know, and in
- 28:37Speaker 2: Switzerland there's no famous politicians, are there none. Nobody knows
- 28:41Speaker 2: a Swiss politician that I've ever asked. And that's because
- 28:44Speaker 2: the people are in control. It's not perfect, or I'm
- 28:46Speaker 2: not saying it's perfect, and we could do better, we
- 28:48Speaker 2: could actually make our system better. But because they can
- 28:51Speaker 2: call a referendum on every law, because they can also
- 28:55Speaker 2: introduce referendums, the people have got much more power and
- 28:58Speaker 2: are our greatest constitutional lawyer. Back in the Victorian era,
- 29:02Speaker 2: he saw this in eighteen nineties and he said, we
- 29:04Speaker 2: want that. He said, the guy called av Dicey. Anyone
- 29:07Speaker 2: who knows anything about constitutional rule will know him and
- 29:10Speaker 2: he said we should have the referendum. We don't need
- 29:12Speaker 2: a house of lords because he understood that the parties
- 29:16Speaker 2: were completely corrupted back then, so you know, he was
- 29:19Speaker 2: right at the center of things because he was advising
- 29:22Speaker 2: these politicians and he saw them for what they were.
- 29:24Speaker 2: So it's you know, I do get concerned that I'm
- 29:27Speaker 2: not enough. People will wake up, but hopefully with the
- 29:30Speaker 2: Internet and all the things that's going on now, Trump
- 29:33Speaker 2: in power, but we need to get rid of these
- 29:35Speaker 2: clowns who are in there now, you know, as parties,
- 29:38Speaker 2: all of them. The only person who backs rights to
- 29:40Speaker 2: referendums is Nigel Farash because I gave him my book,
- 29:44Speaker 2: but not outside of the gb News late in twenty
- 29:47Speaker 2: twenty three, and since then a few months later he
- 29:49Speaker 2: started coming up on you know videos I saw of
- 29:53Speaker 2: him backing the right to referendums. So with him Andrew Bridgen,
- 29:57Speaker 2: he also got the book and he's big on direct democracy.
- 30:00Speaker 2: He believes it's the solution as well, which it is,
- 30:03Speaker 2: you know, because we take control as the majority and
- 30:07Speaker 2: what percentage don't want the legal immigration here, it's probably
- 30:10Speaker 2: seventy percent at least, isn't it. People are very concerned
- 30:13Speaker 2: about people coming in here. We don't know who they are.
- 30:16Speaker 2: They're all throwing their passports overboard, et cetera. And we're
- 30:19Speaker 2: stuck with this and we can't control it.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only seventy percent because the other thirty percent
- 30:25Speaker 3: have been brainwashed through the university system to think that
- 30:28Speaker 3: it's racist to turn people away.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'd always say to people, you know, the best
- 30:35Speaker 3: way to support other nations is not to let your
- 30:39Speaker 3: country slide to become like theirs, and the notion that
- 30:43Speaker 3: you can help everybody, and that when you're in the
- 30:48Speaker 3: university system, that just seems how it is, you know,
- 30:52Speaker 3: But we've got the United Nations Charter and did it.
- 30:57Speaker 3: And the reality is is that when you can no
- 31:01Speaker 3: longer get healthcare because the NHS has you know, been
- 31:06Speaker 3: stomped into non existence, When your daughter can't go out
- 31:10Speaker 3: to a party at night because wearing a short skirt
- 31:13Speaker 3: means she's a slut and I'm not being your you know,
- 31:17Speaker 3: typical nationalist are neil far right. I've been in I've
- 31:22Speaker 3: been in Tribal Pakistan. I know how it works. I
- 31:26Speaker 3: was sexually assaulted there. Fortunately I can stick up up
- 31:32Speaker 3: for myself. But you know, you you you get a
- 31:35Speaker 3: crowd of blokes and they're all trying to grab your
- 31:37Speaker 3: nuts because that's the most titillating thing they're going to
- 31:43Speaker 3: get in their life because not allowed. You know, this
- 31:47Speaker 3: is I'm trying to say, this is what some would claim.
- 31:51Speaker 3: Pick my words carefully. Here is happening to is being
- 31:55Speaker 3: imported into this country, completely different values systems, and when
- 32:03Speaker 3: this all comes to a head like it did for me,
- 32:07Speaker 3: I lived in I've lived in Scandinavia often on over
- 32:11Speaker 3: the years, and I once my girlfriend was working in
- 32:15Speaker 3: a My girlfriend was we were both working in a supermarket.
- 32:19Speaker 3: She was on the till one night and two Somalians
- 32:23Speaker 3: came in with a machine gun. This is this is
- 32:27Speaker 3: Sweden and Norway. They used to have zero crime rate.
- 32:30Speaker 3: It just crime wasn't it wasn't a thing, you know,
- 32:34Speaker 3: miniscule below one percent. And my girlfriend, being Swedish, was
- 32:40Speaker 3: so like naive. She looked at these two guys wielding
- 32:44Speaker 3: a machine gun and said what and they were like,
- 32:49Speaker 3: give us all the money.
- 32:50Speaker 2: She was like.
- 32:52Speaker 3: Why she she couldn't, you know, just couldn't get a
- 32:56Speaker 3: grip on like what what this doesn't happen where I live,
- 33:00Speaker 3: and so I just want to just track back a bit.
- 33:06Speaker 3: The point I was making, Neil is I think if
- 33:08Speaker 3: everybody could see where this is going and that there's
- 33:11Speaker 3: going to it, many would argue it's got to the
- 33:14Speaker 3: point now where there's probably no turning back. Oh, I've
- 33:19Speaker 3: just realized, just realized, I've had my microphone on mute.
- 33:23Speaker 3: I just got to make it a note of where
- 33:25Speaker 3: we are. Thirty six thirty two. Yeah, sorry, Yeah, I
- 33:31Speaker 3: think a lot more people would be paying attention, is
- 33:34Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say. You mentioned Trump there, and
- 33:38Speaker 3: I've got to push your buttons a bit here, Neil,
- 33:40Speaker 3: because there'll be a lot of people out there that
- 33:42Speaker 3: will be cross with me if I don't. So you've
- 33:45Speaker 3: got a chat that was bailed out by wilbah Ross,
- 33:48Speaker 3: who was the money man for the Rothchilds. You've got
- 33:53Speaker 3: someone who's committed to Israel. And I'm not talking like
- 33:58Speaker 3: the country per se or the the people. I mean
- 34:02Speaker 3: the whole concept that Israel was set up by the
- 34:04Speaker 3: rough Childs as their front company, as it were, with
- 34:08Speaker 3: which to conduct their new world order, you know, from behind,
- 34:13Speaker 3: at the expense of the people that are already living there,
- 34:17Speaker 3: who we know were Palestinians who have now but you know,
- 34:21Speaker 3: let's not even talk about what's going on there now.
- 34:24Speaker 3: But everybody knows the G word, I think is undeniable.
- 34:31Speaker 3: And on top of that, he's just broken a deal
- 34:34Speaker 3: with Zelenski, who was brought to power by Colin Moyski e.
- 34:40Speaker 3: So just so we all know what club we're talking
- 34:44Speaker 3: about here, folks, and what did Trump do? He broke
- 34:49Speaker 3: it a deal and he proudly told the Americans that
- 34:52Speaker 3: they're getting black Rock in there, Blackrock, big, big club,
- 34:57Speaker 3: financial financial Sense Center. So i'd say, still part of
- 35:05Speaker 3: the beast system.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Still, yeah, the issue with is how do you change.
- 35:12Speaker 2: I'm not saying these people are all the best answer,
- 35:15Speaker 2: because they're not. But you know, we've got to get
- 35:17Speaker 2: out of the mess. So anyone we can age closer
- 35:20Speaker 2: to the age, which is why I work with the
- 35:23Speaker 2: direct democracy stuff, because that's how we take control politically.
- 35:27Speaker 2: So unfortunately in America they can do a lot of
- 35:29Speaker 2: state level, but they've never had a single referendum a
- 35:32Speaker 2: national level, so that that's an issue. But he got
- 35:34Speaker 2: a mass, believe it or not, talks a great deal
- 35:37Speaker 2: about direct democracy. He thinks it's the answer as well.
- 35:41Speaker 2: He's talking about it from Mars when he gets up there.
- 35:43Speaker 2: But you know, I want it down here on planet Earth.
- 35:45Speaker 2: So that's what we're doing in the movement. So Trump, yeah,
- 35:49Speaker 2: he's I'm not saying he's perfect. Switzerland's not perfect. We're
- 35:53Speaker 2: talking about a bunch of human beings who are who
- 35:55Speaker 2: are not well informed, you know. And on that front,
- 35:58Speaker 2: by the way, just so you know, I also work
- 36:00Speaker 2: another group as a run by a guy called Norman
- 36:03Speaker 2: McKenzie Richmond who is off coom Watch. And the plan
- 36:07Speaker 2: is that in about six months time or so, there'll
- 36:09Speaker 2: be a big conference on free speech and censorship, would
- 36:13Speaker 2: probably be in the Queen Elizabeth Center, and Elon Musk
- 36:17Speaker 2: hopefully will turn up, and others, a lot of these
- 36:20Speaker 2: guys who are running Rumble and all these other ones
- 36:23Speaker 2: gab who are being shut down now. So the aims
- 36:26Speaker 2: to have this because you've got to have free speech
- 36:29Speaker 2: if you're going to live free. How can we argue
- 36:31Speaker 2: about what the different laws should be or not. How
- 36:34Speaker 2: can we get a referendum on controlling immigration, changing this
- 36:38Speaker 2: or changing that If we don't have the passage of
- 36:41Speaker 2: information is free and equal, you know what I mean
- 36:43Speaker 2: that we can find out what is really going on,
- 36:46Speaker 2: and even Switzerland doesn't have that control yet, So we
- 36:49Speaker 2: need much more openness on our laws. Otherwise, as you say,
- 36:53Speaker 2: Europe will continue to be controlled the whole of Europe,
- 36:56Speaker 2: look at it run by the EU. Britain is going
- 36:58Speaker 2: back under that wing as well, Starma. So yeah, Trump's
- 37:02Speaker 2: not ideal, but he's better than what we've got here.
- 37:04Speaker 2: You see, all we can do at the moment is
- 37:07Speaker 2: push until the people actually have control. But the people
- 37:10Speaker 2: have got tout of the information. You can't have direct
- 37:12Speaker 2: democracy and you can't and not have a free speech.
- 37:16Speaker 2: You have to have free speech to have a proper democracy.
- 37:19Speaker 2: How do you argue about what's going to be voted over?
- 37:22Speaker 2: How do the ideas that you think about that to
- 37:24Speaker 2: a lot of people are odd are going to be
- 37:27Speaker 2: understood and heard and people can think about it then,
- 37:30Speaker 2: but if they can't even hear it, then they can't
- 37:33Speaker 2: make any decision based around that. So yeah, Trump's not ideal,
- 37:37Speaker 2: But all I say is he did have a falling out,
- 37:39Speaker 2: so it would appear recently with net and Yao, you
- 37:42Speaker 2: know that maybe he's going net and you know's going
- 37:45Speaker 2: too fast. But I remember Trump had this fallout just
- 37:48Speaker 2: last week or the week before, so he said he
- 37:51Speaker 2: doesn't trust him. He thinks he's trying to influence him.
- 37:54Speaker 2: I think Trump's a bit like Nigel Farah. They're quite individual.
- 37:57Speaker 2: They are quite individual and so you know people I
- 38:00Speaker 2: say they're all controlled. There may be to some extent,
- 38:03Speaker 2: but they don't have access to all the information. Mate,
- 38:05Speaker 2: they haven't got your podcast all day, but they at
- 38:08Speaker 2: least he goes on, Joe Rogan, doesn't he Trump? Now
- 38:11Speaker 2: would you see Extarmer going on? They're not getting slaughter,
- 38:15Speaker 2: you know, or any of these are politicians in any
- 38:17Speaker 2: of the parties. So we need to replace the parties
- 38:21Speaker 2: with no whips, parties that are full of people who
- 38:24Speaker 2: actually do believe in their communities because they know they're
- 38:28Speaker 2: not going to have a lot of power. Because in
- 38:30Speaker 2: Switzerland the power filters down. It's a lot more of
- 38:33Speaker 2: the community level and the canton level. All the school
- 38:36Speaker 2: systems are run at local level. But even the great
- 38:39Speaker 2: educational institutes around the world say that Swiss are probably
- 38:42Speaker 2: the best balanced education and vocational training system on the planet,
- 38:47Speaker 2: which is why they make good chocolate mate. You know,
- 38:50Speaker 2: they make good chocolate, they make good watches, they've got
- 38:52Speaker 2: very good high precision engineering. They're famous for a number
- 38:56Speaker 2: of things. But the salaries are more than double hours,
- 39:00Speaker 2: and their disposable income, even after their taxes or the rest,
- 39:03Speaker 2: is much much higher than that. Did they they probably
- 39:05Speaker 2: got Yeah, I think they.
- 39:07Speaker 3: Probably answered you this before, Neil. But did they go
- 39:09Speaker 3: along with all the medical stuff?
- 39:11Speaker 2: Yeah? I think they went along with some of it
- 39:13Speaker 2: at the start. Then they were kicking back and they
- 39:15Speaker 2: started putting manslaughter cases on the wrest of it together
- 39:18Speaker 2: in Switzerland. So it's like any of these things. When
- 39:20Speaker 2: you've got a government they start using emergency powers against you,
- 39:24Speaker 2: you see, and you then that's when the people can
- 39:27Speaker 2: start to kick in. But it's not immediate, but at
- 39:30Speaker 2: least they can kick in. And like now that they
- 39:32Speaker 2: have signed up to the ECHR as well, all right,
- 39:36Speaker 2: and that means you have to accept their findings as
- 39:39Speaker 2: the last one and you can't object to it. Well,
- 39:42Speaker 2: they did that recently and they went through to the
- 39:45Speaker 2: ECCHR for it was on energy, green energy, and they
- 39:49Speaker 2: were told you've got to have more green energy by
- 39:51Speaker 2: the EHR and the Swiss people said no, we don't.
- 39:54Speaker 2: They told their politicians were not agreeing with that. You see.
- 39:57Speaker 2: So what it meant was they're showing the politicians we're
- 39:59Speaker 2: in Olier. You may think you've got an international agreement.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Well we have to do what they say. We're telling
- 40:05Speaker 2: you we're not. So that's where it may have been
- 40:08Speaker 2: not perfect. It's a lot damn better than us. Can
- 40:11Speaker 2: we say anything about this stuff? Have we got any
- 40:13Speaker 2: chance to say as the people, that's enough. We don't
- 40:16Speaker 2: care if you think it's good in government, we're telling
- 40:18Speaker 2: you no, you know, we'll pull out of that international agreement,
- 40:21Speaker 2: or we'll just say we're not following. It doesn't matter
- 40:23Speaker 2: what we agree to. It's just a bit of paper
- 40:25Speaker 2: in the end, mate, everything's a bit of paper. And
- 40:28Speaker 2: if the people have decided we've moved on and we
- 40:31Speaker 2: want to change things, we're not sticking with that bit
- 40:33Speaker 2: of paper anymore. And you don't wait for interested politicians
- 40:37Speaker 2: who are going to get a job in some boardroom
- 40:39Speaker 2: or get ten thousand pounded a you know, consulting fee
- 40:43Speaker 2: for putting these questions in parliament or whatever else they're
- 40:46Speaker 2: doing to favor them, or get on a committee and
- 40:49Speaker 2: make sure that that job goes through for this large corporation,
- 40:53Speaker 2: or you know Bill Gates flies in and Larry Fink
- 40:55Speaker 2: flies in and goes on walks in and sees Starma
- 40:58Speaker 2: and I mean, could you do that? You know when
- 41:00Speaker 2: I was in Group four, the guys used to go
- 41:02Speaker 2: to Parliament the senior people dinner drinks, Ladi blah. What
- 41:07Speaker 2: was that for? Because I'm sure there's nothing to do
- 41:09Speaker 2: with getting influenced Chris or making sure they've got those
- 41:11Speaker 2: nice government contracts for the prisons. Sure there was none
- 41:14Speaker 2: of that involved whatsoever? Is he? So this is how
- 41:17Speaker 2: it all goes wrong. This is why you need to
- 41:20Speaker 2: have the people can say as a group where we
- 41:23Speaker 2: don't like what you're doing, see it's not happening, but
- 41:25Speaker 2: we have got no say like that at all. And
- 41:28Speaker 2: you know we can improve on that. And it's not
- 41:30Speaker 2: for me to say, I'd say you. Everyone else will
- 41:33Speaker 2: have that opportunity to put forward good ideas. But then
- 41:36Speaker 2: you go out and with freedom of speech, you know,
- 41:39Speaker 2: which is why we've got our freedom of speech conference
- 41:41Speaker 2: because I'm working with these people as well, hopefully in
- 41:44Speaker 2: October November. And then drive back on Starmer and drive
- 41:49Speaker 2: back on government. It's not just Starmy's he's the only
- 41:52Speaker 2: the current one is the worst of the current ones.
- 41:54Speaker 2: But they're all wait at Cameron, you go back to Cameron, stay,
- 41:59Speaker 2: same stuff, all telling us their conservative, but they're not
- 42:03Speaker 2: conservative at all. You know, you've got the Fabians. You
- 42:06Speaker 2: know you've got the fab the secret lefties who are
- 42:08Speaker 2: all the leadership, all the cabinet members on the left,
- 42:11Speaker 2: on labor are always Fabians. They're just slow burn or revolutionaries.
- 42:15Speaker 2: They saw that the revolution wasn't going to work too
- 42:18Speaker 2: much violence with Russia, so they'd be set up. In
- 42:22Speaker 2: eighteen eighty four, which is why all Well wrote his
- 42:26Speaker 2: book nineteen eighty four because it was the centenary of Fabianism,
- 42:30Speaker 2: so he gave it that day. He understood what was
- 42:32Speaker 2: going on. He had been a sol system. He had
- 42:34Speaker 2: been you know, there'd been an anarchist fought in the
- 42:37Speaker 2: Civil War in Spain, and he had woken up. He'd
- 42:39Speaker 2: seen what was going on with Stalin's secret police destroying
- 42:43Speaker 2: you know, the group he was in. He was lucky
- 42:45Speaker 2: to escape with his life, so he came back. And
- 42:47Speaker 2: that's why you've got animal farm, That's why you got
- 42:49Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four. Yeah, we're very lucky to have had
- 42:52Speaker 2: that man. And that's why the freedom of speech. Freedom
- 42:55Speaker 2: of speech is before voting. If you if you can't
- 42:57Speaker 2: have freedom of speech, they're going to feed you any
- 43:00Speaker 2: old line, which is what they've been doing, you know.
- 43:03Speaker 2: And that's why the media, the press houses, the publishing
- 43:07Speaker 2: houses are all controlled by the usual crew.
- 43:10Speaker 3: Yes, as I say, Neil, I'm playing Devil's advocate here
- 43:14Speaker 3: right for example, I'm just chuck just chucking this stuff
- 43:20Speaker 3: out there, because we need to have conversations, don't we
- 43:23Speaker 3: We need to have this freedom of speech. So in
- 43:28Speaker 3: no particular order, and I do want to come onto
- 43:31Speaker 3: the the just going to show your website. I do
- 43:34Speaker 3: want to come on to the Veterans for Freedom shortly
- 43:38Speaker 3: because I know a lot of people are probably hanging
- 43:40Speaker 3: on for that one thing. George Orwell neglected one massive,
- 43:46Speaker 3: massive element. He just told the three D functional material
- 43:51Speaker 3: aspect of what is happening in society that we're going
- 43:57Speaker 3: into this you know, orwelly and dystopian socially controlled nightmare.
- 44:04Speaker 3: He didn't explain so well that the reason we're going
- 44:11Speaker 3: into it is because it's an energy battle and these
- 44:14Speaker 3: excuse my language. These fuckers well understand it, and most
- 44:18Speaker 3: people in the street wouldn't even have a clue what
- 44:21Speaker 3: we're talking about now, right, And that's you know, if
- 44:25Speaker 3: that's your friend, hang in there, because we're doing our bed.
- 44:30Speaker 3: So I think that you know, I used to quote,
- 44:32Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a copy right here. I used
- 44:35Speaker 3: I used to waive this around so so much in
- 44:38Speaker 3: my earlier podcast, And then it suddenly occurred to me
- 44:40Speaker 3: that no George Orward did them a favor, didn't he
- 44:43Speaker 3: because he left out the crucial component, which is what
- 44:47Speaker 3: they're wheeled in to manipulate society into this this new
- 44:53Speaker 3: world order. So that's that I also want to say,
- 44:56Speaker 3: I applaud you, Neil, of course. I do you know
- 44:59Speaker 3: anyone that's stepping up to the plate to get a
- 45:05Speaker 3: grip on what is happening with this wonderful land. You know,
- 45:10Speaker 3: it's awful to see people who can't go out in
- 45:15Speaker 3: public as free men and free women pushing their children
- 45:19Speaker 3: in the prim or whatever because someone from is to say,
- 45:25Speaker 3: another place will come up and shove a knife in
- 45:28Speaker 3: your neck over mental illness or a dispute or loss
- 45:34Speaker 3: of face and pride which is something that we don't
- 45:37Speaker 3: really get and we don't have here or whatever it
- 45:41Speaker 3: might be. And so like I get it, is what
- 45:45Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. My sort of concern is is
- 45:49Speaker 3: that you you nailed it there. Most people would look
- 45:53Speaker 3: at my ideas and think that they're strange. Yeah, well
- 45:57Speaker 3: of course they could, because most people don't understand scripture.
- 46:01Speaker 3: They think the Bible is like something that you have
- 46:03Speaker 3: in church. They don't understand the incredible esoteric code in there,
- 46:08Speaker 3: which is basically your you know, how to get your
- 46:12Speaker 3: bio biochemistry in order so that you're not anxious, depressed, fearful,
- 46:18Speaker 3: lusting after you know, whatever it might be. Material possessions, women,
- 46:24Speaker 3: your next McDonald's, your next bucket of coffee to get
- 46:27Speaker 3: you up in the morning, your bottle of wine in
- 46:29Speaker 3: the evening to anietize yourself, your hypnotic experience every night
- 46:36Speaker 3: with your television set. You know, I understand that for
- 46:40Speaker 3: us people that we don't do that stuff. Well, you
- 46:43Speaker 3: know we've done it, done it a lot over the years.
- 46:46Speaker 3: You can say, but you know I understand. To stand
- 46:49Speaker 3: out and be different, you're the subject for attack, and
- 46:53Speaker 3: I'm fucking fine with that because you know, I'm a
- 46:57Speaker 3: free person and I live in paradise and I'm I'm
- 47:00Speaker 3: never going back to you know, living in a matrix
- 47:03Speaker 3: got me chronically addicted to drugs and mentally unwell with
- 47:07Speaker 3: no friends. Now I think I've got five, probably ten friends,
- 47:12Speaker 3: and I'll tell you what. They're bloody nice ones. Do
- 47:14Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I'm just chucking this
- 47:17Speaker 3: out there, Neil, So friend, our friends out there can
- 47:20Speaker 3: maybe pick a bit here, pick a bit there and
- 47:22Speaker 3: make sense of it. What is to say that if
- 47:28Speaker 3: we don't address these fundamentals? So I give you example,
- 47:32Speaker 3: I'm climbing Everest next year. Yeah, I think I may
- 47:38Speaker 3: have very well landed on my feet. I won't say
- 47:41Speaker 3: anything at this stage, but with a wonderful gentleman, former
- 47:44Speaker 3: rule marine who's who looks like he's offering to cover
- 47:48Speaker 3: all the funding. And I've asked myself the question yesterday,
- 47:54Speaker 3: bloody el Chris, let's just say not Coca Cola. That's
- 47:58Speaker 3: too glowing, an obvious exam pull of corporate capitalist poison.
- 48:03Speaker 3: But you know, and certainly not astro bloody Zenica. But
- 48:11Speaker 3: what if a company on the cusp that I morally
- 48:15Speaker 3: would consider wrong but the masses out there wouldn't fucking
- 48:19Speaker 3: think twice. I don't know BBC or uh Ben and
- 48:25Speaker 3: Jerry's ice cream Right now, I'm not saying I'd never
- 48:29Speaker 3: eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream. I'm greedy. Oh you know,
- 48:32Speaker 3: if I was stoned or something, I'd probably munch loads
- 48:35Speaker 3: of it down. But what I am saying is I
- 48:37Speaker 3: understand the moral question of shoving forty spoons of sugar
- 48:42Speaker 3: into your into your face, you know, combined with dairy
- 48:46Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. And if they came out that
- 48:49Speaker 3: were working said Chris will sponsor your Everest climb. You know,
- 48:52Speaker 3: we just want you to have Ben and Jerry's logos. Well,
- 48:56Speaker 3: here's a thin mil right they get. Yet my dream
- 48:59Speaker 3: is just suddenly come true. I'm doing something I've wanted
- 49:03Speaker 3: to do since i was about five or six years old.
- 49:06Speaker 3: I'm going up the biggest mountain on the planet. And
- 49:10Speaker 3: Ben and Jerry's they're gonna cut They're gonna pay everything. Now,
- 49:13Speaker 3: I know so many people wouldn't even they wouldn't even
- 49:15Speaker 3: be having this conversation. They just say thanks, Ben and
- 49:18Speaker 3: Jerry's give me the you know whatever. It is thirty
- 49:21Speaker 3: pounds cheers. Where do you want the logo? I am
- 49:25Speaker 3: that moral person?
- 49:26Speaker 2: Neil? Where spiritual? Bowe?
- 49:29Speaker 3: What the future do I want to create for my children?
- 49:32Speaker 3: Do I want to be promoting?
- 49:34Speaker 2: You know?
- 49:34Speaker 3: Junk food? Is that the sum total of who I am?
- 49:38Speaker 2: And and I.
- 49:40Speaker 3: Weakened because I'm human and I'm fallible, and yes, I
- 49:43Speaker 3: haven't had a drink for months, an meat for ages
- 49:49Speaker 3: and my body's utterly firing on the electrolytes because you
- 49:54Speaker 3: know that's from from eating so many vegetables. And this
- 49:58Speaker 3: is this is how I like to be. I like
- 50:01Speaker 3: to be firing and on form, and I do even
- 50:05Speaker 3: I will weaken. You might see me in a month
- 50:09Speaker 3: with a pint in my hand or whatever. What I'm
- 50:12Speaker 3: saying is, how are you gonna start a grassroots organization
- 50:16Speaker 3: where human beings are fundamentally weak at the best of times.
- 50:21Speaker 3: And this is not a criticism of people. I love
- 50:24Speaker 3: all people. I'm just saying we're in the times of
- 50:27Speaker 3: sodom and gomora. Literally just look at the landscape. People
- 50:32Speaker 3: can't even say hello anymore or introduce themselves. People walk
- 50:36Speaker 3: into a room of strangers and just put their head
- 50:38Speaker 3: down and get their phone out because they've lost, you know,
- 50:42Speaker 3: the self confidence, the art of communication, etiquette, politeness, the
- 50:48Speaker 3: big club of winning big time on that front you've got.
- 50:53Speaker 3: Then you've got people going into their ego self the
- 50:56Speaker 3: Instagram culture that you know, the the decorating the body,
- 51:01Speaker 3: let's say, and all the kind of hey look at
- 51:05Speaker 3: look at me, look at my big big muscles today,
- 51:08Speaker 3: and look at my silly skinny jeans. And you know,
- 51:11Speaker 3: aren't I I've got a weird beard as well, aren't
- 51:14Speaker 3: don't you all just bloody love me? And yet we
- 51:17Speaker 3: all know because we're old and stupid, old and wise
- 51:20Speaker 3: are means that that versus like the most insecure and
- 51:24Speaker 3: the most unhappy. And those pictures on their Instagram is
- 51:27Speaker 3: when they're not depressed and they're not self harming, and
- 51:29Speaker 3: they're not you know, self self medicating the dead. So
- 51:34Speaker 3: what I'm getting at is is it cut before the horse.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Have we got to sort out the fundamental issues in humanity?
- 51:42Speaker 3: Because you get your body of people together, you're going
- 51:45Speaker 3: to I'm paying Devil's advocate here, Neil, are you going
- 51:49Speaker 3: to get upset that you're right? Our man who you
- 51:52Speaker 3: thought you could trust and he was going to build
- 51:55Speaker 3: the the veterans for freedom that suddenly he gets off
- 51:59Speaker 3: at a sixty grand a year job working for whatever
- 52:04Speaker 3: it is, you know, NASA Ici Astrosenica is like Neil, sorry, fellow,
- 52:09Speaker 3: you know it's sixty grand, mate. I got kids to feed,
- 52:12Speaker 3: I've got a mortgage. I need to pay it, you know,
- 52:15Speaker 3: just chucking this out there, Neil.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know, integrity and belief systems are important,
- 52:23Speaker 2: you know. And I've never been a believer, but I've
- 52:26Speaker 2: always been interested. I've always you know, I've studied all
- 52:29Speaker 2: the different religions very deeply. You know, I'm I've read
- 52:33Speaker 2: a great deal on Sharia, so I understand, you know,
- 52:35Speaker 2: the issues with Islam and the kind of genocidal nature
- 52:39Speaker 2: of some of their laws. So these are all the
- 52:41Speaker 2: types of things that high address and think about kind
- 52:44Speaker 2: of fairly routinely. And I support ex Muslims who are
- 52:47Speaker 2: trying to live free in this country, who have to
- 52:49Speaker 2: live in hiding. And I started down this road a
- 52:52Speaker 2: long time ago. I was eighteen and I realized, you know,
- 52:55Speaker 2: I wanted to serve on the front line in the
- 52:57Speaker 2: military to show my commitment to our done. You know. Well,
- 53:00Speaker 2: my granddad had World War two, they all he'd been
- 53:03Speaker 2: called up and they'd all had to go out, and
- 53:05Speaker 2: I thought, well, if I want to hold my head up,
- 53:07Speaker 2: then that's what I'm going to do. So that's what
- 53:08Speaker 2: I did. And I was in sixteen years and I volunteered,
- 53:11Speaker 2: you know, jumping out planes, all the usual stuff. And
- 53:14Speaker 2: I ended up, you know, coming out going into the
- 53:16Speaker 2: security industry. But I was still studying all these things,
- 53:20Speaker 2: you know, and as soon as I came out in
- 53:22Speaker 2: the military, I had more time for study of the
- 53:24Speaker 2: esoteric stuff as well. You know. I was looking at
- 53:26Speaker 2: you all, as I say, finishing off, looking at the religions,
- 53:30Speaker 2: looking because I lived in Islamic countries about fifteen years.
- 53:33Speaker 2: I was running companies in that part of the world
- 53:36Speaker 2: and doing jobs, so I had a good understanding of that.
- 53:38Speaker 2: But I was also looking at things like good chef
- 53:40Speaker 2: and looking at the quite alternative ways of thinking. So
- 53:44Speaker 2: my mind is not settled on any one or the other.
- 53:47Speaker 2: But I understand you know what you like, you say,
- 53:49Speaker 2: spiritual energy, whatever you want to call it, I look
- 53:52Speaker 2: at it very carefully, and you're go into quantum physics,
- 53:55Speaker 2: you know, and looking at how particles ways whatever they
- 53:58Speaker 2: are how they work and how when you observe them
- 54:01Speaker 2: they look differently to when you're not observing them. So
- 54:04Speaker 2: you start to see all this interconnectedness. So I don't
- 54:07Speaker 2: understand it, mate, and that's it. So I just think
- 54:10Speaker 2: there's something fantastic out there. But you know, and you
- 54:13Speaker 2: can call it energy, you can call it god, you
- 54:15Speaker 2: call it what you're like, but there's something that I
- 54:16Speaker 2: don't get and you probably never will. But it does
- 54:20Speaker 2: mean you know, you want to do good, don't you.
- 54:22Speaker 2: You know, you think, well, you know, we're all connected,
- 54:25Speaker 2: we're all in this together. So direct democracy is a
- 54:28Speaker 2: vehicle for bringing us together and this kind of more
- 54:31Speaker 2: material plane. But obviously that's why any freedom speaks so
- 54:35Speaker 2: good ideas, Like you're talking about spiritual side and all
- 54:39Speaker 2: this thing, and there is some optimism here because you know,
- 54:43Speaker 2: people are getting realigning. I think, you know to some extent,
- 54:46Speaker 2: because you hear the church attendance, which is a sign
- 54:50Speaker 2: of that kind of thinking, isn't it is going up
- 54:53Speaker 2: that the young young men in particular are going back
- 54:56Speaker 2: into religion that had fallen away or never been in
- 54:59Speaker 2: it the first So I think there is this tendency
- 55:03Speaker 2: to move and creep forward. But also remember you don't
- 55:06Speaker 2: need everyone to come on board. You know, you need
- 55:09Speaker 2: a small committed crew. You had a small committed crew
- 55:12Speaker 2: of which I was one of them. You know. Yeah,
- 55:14Speaker 2: that's turning up. So if someone wants to come and
- 55:18Speaker 2: join Veterans for Freedom, then they've got to understand it's
- 55:21Speaker 2: very political. It's based around the Big Five freedoms, and
- 55:24Speaker 2: if you're committed to those, I'm not going to get
- 55:27Speaker 2: too concerned about the rest of your life, you know,
- 55:30Speaker 2: because if you're younger than I are, and you've got
- 55:32Speaker 2: kids to feed, and you've got you know, all of
- 55:34Speaker 2: those things, those responsibilities, I think you've got to have
- 55:37Speaker 2: a lot. You've got to have more slack, you know
- 55:39Speaker 2: what I mean in terms of are they turning towards
- 55:44Speaker 2: you know, just the energy, the God whatever. Then no,
- 55:47Speaker 2: maybe they don't. Maybe they do get tempted, but that's life, mate.
- 55:50Speaker 2: You know, you can't win them all. And that's why,
- 55:53Speaker 2: you know, I think when I look at the people
- 55:55Speaker 2: who want to join our movement, I don't need many,
- 55:58Speaker 2: I believe, you know, because remember we were how many
- 56:00Speaker 2: of us? You got twenty thirty of us at the
- 56:03Speaker 2: front of the marches and the hundreds of thousands behind
- 56:05Speaker 2: as well, you know, and you don't organize that, eh
- 56:08Speaker 2: So I don't believe any huge numbers. But you know,
- 56:11Speaker 2: people do want to see the bearers at the front.
- 56:14Speaker 2: They want to see them at the front because it
- 56:17Speaker 2: carries weight.
- 56:17Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yes, it's it's almost a bit hard to
- 56:23Speaker 3: sort of explain, Neil, really without without the risk of like,
- 56:27Speaker 3: I don't want to come across as being negative, like
- 56:29Speaker 3: I say, I applaud you absolutely, but you know I
- 56:34Speaker 3: am a warrior, Neil. That's why I live my life
- 56:38Speaker 3: in a I do the things that may appear to
- 56:42Speaker 3: others not to be easy, but actually you do them
- 56:45Speaker 3: so old me your life becomes easy. So you can,
- 56:48Speaker 3: you know, row across the Atlantic Ocean, run across the
- 56:51Speaker 3: Sahara Desert, climb Mount Everest. These are the things that
- 56:55Speaker 3: I just wanted. These were my dreams as a kid,
- 56:58Speaker 3: you know, And so I found that having a little
- 57:03Speaker 3: bit of strictness, you know, in a way that you
- 57:05Speaker 3: conduct yourself just pays back massive, massive dividends. You know,
- 57:10Speaker 3: why do you throw yourself in cold water every morning?
- 57:13Speaker 3: You know, sometimes it's bloody. You have to break break
- 57:16Speaker 3: the bloody ice, you know in the winter, will you
- 57:19Speaker 3: do it? Because the universe just gives gives back to
- 57:22Speaker 3: you tenfold. And I just worry that operating under the
- 57:27Speaker 3: b system, you know, can you change your corrupt system
- 57:33Speaker 3: by utilizing that system? And I know you're suggesting a
- 57:38Speaker 3: different way of doing things. How well, let's just move on.
- 57:44Speaker 3: Let's just talk about your veterans for freedom? What what
- 57:47Speaker 3: what it was it going to be?
- 57:49Speaker 2: Well, it's literally just been set up and it's just
- 57:52Speaker 2: really to support people like these free speech groups or
- 57:56Speaker 2: you know, if we had a COVID thing in the future,
- 57:57Speaker 2: do what you were doing, that type of thing. But
- 58:00Speaker 2: it's tied into the Big five freedoms. You know, we've
- 58:02Speaker 2: got to have all that freedom of belief. What about
- 58:05Speaker 2: people ex. Muslims who are under threat. What is if
- 58:09Speaker 2: they want to march through their old hometown to make
- 58:11Speaker 2: them send the message that you know, look in Bradford,
- 58:15Speaker 2: in wherever it is, whichever town and they can no
- 58:19Speaker 2: longer live their work there exist there and have been
- 58:22Speaker 2: driven out. Who's going to make the point what about
- 58:25Speaker 2: these freedoms We're supposed to be Britain where you've got
- 58:27Speaker 2: freedom of belief? What if these ex Muslims wanted to
- 58:30Speaker 2: march through somewhere, would we I'll go and march with them,
- 58:33Speaker 2: you see, And I'd ask the people everyone else to say,
- 58:36Speaker 2: come on, Chris, get people out there, not just you
- 58:38Speaker 2: and your team, but you know, encourage everyone to go,
- 58:41Speaker 2: you know, your family, your relatives, because we're making the
- 58:44Speaker 2: point to these people and our government. We called it
- 58:47Speaker 2: our government. We're the bloody government, aren't we. You're supposed
- 58:51Speaker 2: to be the consent of the government. What a cheeky thing. No,
- 58:55Speaker 2: you'll do what we tell you. You know, our consent. Now
- 58:58Speaker 2: we're telling you what to do. You know, we govern,
- 59:01Speaker 2: you administer as political parties. Okay, we need this paradigm shift.
- 59:06Speaker 2: But look, I'll tell you what's powerful about this message
- 59:09Speaker 2: that we're doing with you know, the right to petition,
- 59:12Speaker 2: the right to call for referendums. This is the most
- 59:15Speaker 2: powerful idea that we've got in terms of changing things.
- 59:18Speaker 2: Because it's really popular, Chris. People love it. You talk
- 59:22Speaker 2: to anyone who say how about having this power like this,
- 59:25Speaker 2: and they go, nah, you know it's been going on
- 59:28Speaker 2: in Switzerland all right since eighteen forty eight. It is,
- 59:31Speaker 2: you're joking. Why do you think they're so rich, Why
- 59:34Speaker 2: do you think they're so happy? Why do people like
- 59:36Speaker 2: the place so much? Because it's actually run by the people.
- 59:39Speaker 2: It's not just a chocolate It's not just a nice
- 59:42Speaker 2: snow cap mountains. You know, that's nice. But I'll tell
- 59:44Speaker 2: you what. I've lived in Kazakhstan, and you know, out
- 59:47Speaker 2: there you had nice snow cap mountains and you had
- 59:49Speaker 2: shash leek and all this good stuff. You know, very nice,
- 59:52Speaker 2: But it's hard in Switzerland, do you know what I mean?
- 59:55Speaker 2: And it's because the people control it, and that the
- 59:58Speaker 2: whole as you say, probably all of these energy fields change,
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: which is why Einstein loved it. He left the Prussian
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: education system German eighteen hundreds and he went to this
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Swiss system. And why are so many of the Swiss
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: children's development processes popular around the world. It's because they
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: came from these free thinking individuals who had the right
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: to control their state. Okay, so you know, if we're
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: going to get control of the material state and the
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: political state through the vote, you know, using this system,
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: I don't see as being the massive hurdle that people
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: think it is, which is why Nigel farages of interest.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: He is an individual. You know, people I say always
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: compromises that and the other. And I said, well, hang on,
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: did we win the referendum and get out? Did it work? No?
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: But he got us the vote and we got out.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: That completely disrupted the machine, didn't it? The EU? That
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: was that we've been hated ever since. And then he
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: got the banks. He had problems with our banks and
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: he saw that. People might say, oh, he's vain, he's
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: in easier, he's narcissistic, but he's getting things done. And
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: ye know we're ex military. What's the job Chris to
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: like your officer or he's a bloody good commander and
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: he gets the job done. Your corporal. If the corporal
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: was going to make sure that you got a bloody
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: good little group and you're going to survive, are you
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: going to look up to him? You haven't like him.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: He's bloody good at what we're doing. And that's the point.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: I'm not into worrying about people's personalities too much to
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: get this job done. I'm interested in getting the job done,
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: which is to make us free and to make us
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: in control as a group. So you know, the nation
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: will reflect our thinking, but it will be an informed nation.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: You know, I'm intelligence. I've studied these things. I've looked back,
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: you know, you go back through sabotaize Heavy, you can
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: look at the Frankist, you can look right back to
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: all these you know, real histories that are written about
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: by Hebrew professors, you know, Hebrew speaking out of Israel,
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: talking about you know, the Frankists, Gersham Cholem, if you
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: read him, if you read Israel Shahak, you read these
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: types of people telling you about the real history and
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: the development of that community. You look at Israel Islam,
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: you study Islam. You go and you read books like
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: The Reliance of the Traveler, which is the manual, the
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: English version manual, the Chaffy Code, Schaffi Code, Sharier Manual.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: You can learn this stuff. You don't need to read
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: that many. But you know, on the Veterans website, I
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: list the five and I list five places you can
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: start looking at to see where the type of thing
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: that what I believe we should be looking to support
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: people is, which is, you know, the legalized apostasy campaign,
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: which you'll free Muslims from the threat of being killed
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: for leaving Islam. So that seems to me like a
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: good thing. That's called freedom of belief. So that's what
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: I support. Freedom of speech. You know, you've got the
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: Free Speech Union is battling on our behalf and that
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: that's very important battle. And now you've also got off
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: com one we're the Freedom of the Press, which is
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: looking at having this free speech conference on censorship in
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: the October November. So these are the types of things
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: that you know, we're supporting, along with the right to
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: petition and the right to assemble to have your marches.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: So if people like that idea, then you know they
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: can go to the contact address right to me at
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: info at. You know there is info at you know,
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: Veterans for Freedom dot UK. I'll get them and then
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: we can carry it forward. But you know, it's a
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: team effort, mate, you know, it's a team effort, you
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: know where we're all team guys from a military. The
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: whole thing is, it's not there's no issue on ranks
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: or any of that whole rubbish that's gone. That was
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: the military. We're all now just a bunch of cities,
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: aren't we. We're all free and equal. My YouTube channel
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: is free and equal. If they want to go and
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: look at that, they can go and see the videos
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: that I've done as well, and I don't do many,
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: but you know, I'll take my half to your mate,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: what you've done on you and thank you very much
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: for you know, giving me this chance to talk to people.
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: So Neil just that the last to finish off with.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: And this is something we discuss a lot on this channel.
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: It's certainly something you never you know, you're never gonna hear.
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: Nigel Farage mentioned there was that ex s a s
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: politician wasn't there in Australia. What was his name? He
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: cropped up during the medical Yeah, someone will put his
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: name is an Italian sort of background gentleman anyway, but
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: he came out and he said words the effect, we've
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: all taken eye off the ball. If we're not calling
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: out the Kazari and mafia and all of these Kizari
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: and Sabatians. You know, whatever sort of euphemism we're going
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: to employ, it all points to a dark conspiracy, a
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: dark network. People who have their a group, who have
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: their people in every position of influence, be it in parliament,
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: not just this this country, but globally, be in parliament,
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: in education, in the unions, in the secret societies, etc.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: Etc.
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: They control finance, they own the banks, they own Hollywood.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: How are you going to get around that because obviously
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: in the mainstream it's not even it's not even that
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: it's not mentioned. But I think they'd make your they
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: try to make your life a living, you know, misery
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: if you dare look behind the curtain.
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there are obviously issues around getting over that hurdle,
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: the hurdles there, but you've got to look at how
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: things are developing now. The Internet has made this more
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: difficult for all of these types of people, the fact
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: that more countries have become more democratic, at least in
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: name so you know, they've had to keep conceding a
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: bit more territory all the time. And this is why
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: I think you've got the desperation now on their part,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: you know, on these people who want to controllers forever.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: You know, it's like the Norman yoke that was us
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: in the old Eys was under the Norman and then
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: eventually you know, it's under another bunch of yokes and
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: the globalists, you know, and what they want to do
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: and all these operations that were set up. The thing
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: to member is as well, you've got to think America
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: was not run by the spitball or you know, in
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: World War two, the Holocaust was you know, a lot
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: of the American hierarchy didn't care about it. They've got
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: they were getting word of it in nineteen forty two three,
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: and you know, you had the old old American Anglo
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Americans didn't like Jews. You weren't allowed in a club
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: if you were a Jew, you weren't allowed in this
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: You weren't allowing it. So those people did not have
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: control at that point. You know. Now obviously after the
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: war and the financial aspects and the banking issues, you
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: know that we've had and the growth of the it's
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: controlled globally, which I had to a large extent before,
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: it's just got gone off the scale. As I said,
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: that conglomeration of all of those assets from hundreds and
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: hundre different groups owning you know, the majority of the
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: Plannet to just a tiny number now maybe i'll be
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: less than thirty now because that was twenty fifteen. So
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: you've got this conglomerate. But they're finding it harder. And
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: when you look what's happening in Israel and Garza, you
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: see the kind of genocide word being used routinely. You see,
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: you know, someone like Trump even saying to what's his name, Netan, Yeah,
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: who don't try and influence me, don't try and control me,
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: and around the world that they've got their issues. Now
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: you know their support is diminishing in many ways because
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: it's becoming more obvious. And when you see hundreds of
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: thousands marching through London the Eary back Palestine, as telling
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: you something. Now, the fact of the matter is, of course,
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: do we want those people who are back in Balistine
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: also back in killing X Muslims in our country? Now?
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: We don't want that either, do we. So we have
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: got a lot of hurdles. There are a lot. But
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: you know, to my mind, I told you, you know,
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: when I was eighteen, I decided to go down the
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: path and I'll study stuff and I'll stick up for it,
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: and you know, whatever the price is, because when I
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: was ten years ago now, I gave everything away, Mate,
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: everything I had I handed over to my ex wife
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: and I said, the house, pension a lot. When you understand,
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: so I stand on my own too feet. I'm not
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: worried about some corporate I don't worry about being this
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: that or the other. I know what I'm like, and
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: I've got a lot of friends. You know what I'm like,
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: and those people understand what I'm doing, and you know,
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: and these are important things I believe, you know, politically
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: and you know, as you would say spiritually, you know,
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: freedom of belief. That it's number one. If you can't
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: believe this or that, But you need freedom of speech
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: to let people know about all these different things that
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: may they should be aware of or could be made
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: aware of and make their decisions for themselves, you know.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: And we're all individuals. You know, we've got our own being,
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: and that's why I'll call human beings. I suppose you know,
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: we've got our own being and that is what is important.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: So to me, you know, let's just move forward, keep going.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: The door is I believe opening. I believe that things
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: are moving in our direction. I see it quite routinely. Now.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: I was at another meeting last night where these things
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: were being discussed, and it was an interesting meeting. But
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: you see, people want a way out. But I'm saying,
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: you've got to give a direction. You know. It's like
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: making military you need a clear aim, and the aim
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: is stated quite clearly on the Veterans for Freedom site.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: The aim is to make sure that we protect those
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: big five freedoms first because that will give us in
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: the material world a better way for you spiritually as well,
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: because where the first one is about freedom of belief,
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: and you've got to be free from people trying to
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: kill you just because you leave a religion, where you
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: leave some cult or whatever else it might be. So
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: that's what i'd say, the big five of what are important.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: If we can't even get them right, Chris, we haven't
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: got a hope we so I think focus on them
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: and that's what will be. Okay.
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's quite complicated now doing my job because
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: you know I was referring to the Satanists then Satanist Neil.
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: They own everything they might pretend to be this religion
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: and they use they use religion, they twist the narrative.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: People go along with it because they watch the Hollywood movies.
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: They don't have any real clue that all be that
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: all being gaslet all of them are manipulated. But moving
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: on to more grassroots stuff. So freedom of belief, freedom
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembler. Yes,
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: you're basic human rights right and in a magna carta.
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: It's probably in the American Bill of Rights, you know,
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: et cetera. What how is this going to stop? Or
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: more over, I think your person in the street out
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: there is going to be like, Neil, how are you
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: going to stop the boats? It's all this stuff's well
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: and good. It's going to take possibly years to come
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: to fruition to get a veterans party that's you know,
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: in a good position to be in Parliament and not
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: be corrupted, which I don't know if that's an oxymoron,
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: but putting that to one side, people now want to
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: know who is going to stop the votes?
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: Right okay? Who's saying they'll stop it physically, you know,
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: politically right now? Okay, So you've got to get the
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: people who are going to give us the right to
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: tell them what to do. Because the parties have lied forever.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: You cannot trust any of the parties unless they're going
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: to give you the right to control them. Okay. And
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: that is what the right to petition is about. The
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: only one I've heard talking about is Nigel or someone
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: who's now ex MP Andrew Bridgen. Okay, And you've got
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: to find these groups that will allow us to end
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: up controlling the country as we wish it to be
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: controlled on important issues at first. You can get deeper
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: than that later, but let's get control of the important one.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: And the important one of the moment is you and
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: I know you're going to win a vote to control
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: immigration in this country today. Yep, you're going to get
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: the majority. You're going to vack you. So you need
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: to have someone who's going to give us the right
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: to do that. Now, there is a plan twenty twenty six,
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: the Senate election in Wales. In that country, you've already
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: got reform people pushing for the right to direct democracy,
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: the right to call referendums on important issues. Because Nigel
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: Pharaoh's has been talking about this, he's the party leader.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: And so within Wales, if you can take over Wales
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six and then the Senate elections, you
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: can then start driving policy in reality. Okay, And then
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven you've got big council elections across this country.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: So what I'm aiming for is to see Wales with
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: a direct democracy ethos, the whole way of thinking of
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: the party in control. Then at the council level across
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: this country. Okay, so that we see reform in charge
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: with them pushing direct democracy. This is the fast route
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: that I see. The slow route is from the bottom
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: up through the council, getting him in there, getting your
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: people elected. And we've got our first guy in Welling,
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: Alan Shippham, who's a direct democracy supporter. He's been elected,
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: so he's the first town councilor in this country in
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: our history to be elected on direct democracy. So what
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: we're looking at is to see this building and building.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: But you know, the shortcut is using a reform to
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: give us the right to vote on things that we
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: think are important. Okay. And the Swiss to it simply.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: They're what they call a petition and if you get
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: two percent of the elector in your area to sign
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: up to your idea for the petition that you stop immigration,
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: illegal immitation, whatever, and that is then put into a referendum.
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: If you've got two percent of the people in your
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: who are voters to sign up, you then get the
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: first part of post election referendum. Very simple. So that's
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: how you can control it. So you imagine in Wales
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, that starts twenty twenty seven. You've
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: got the councils doing this because they're under reform and
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: at the bottom, we've still got other people pushing them
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: from the bottom who are going for just direct democracy, groups, parties,
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, independents. So we've got
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: to keep the pressure on reform to bring this in.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: It's very popular. I speak to reform groups. I've got
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: talks to give to reform shortly on direct democracy. So
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: I go all around the country during this right now.
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: So the Veterans group is just it's like the executive
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: Army for seeing that when it's not working in terms
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: of you, people are not aware or people want support,
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: and we can go along and march with them. Put
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: the bury, go out there and march and support people
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: after freedom of speech, people after freedom of belief, et cetera,
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: et cetera. So where they're saying, as a group, the
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: veterans or were asked, veterans believe this is important. And
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: you know, so if we've got any way at all
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: people respect veterans, then maybe they will respect the people
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: who are pushing that message more, who they might think
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: is a bit of an odd message. But if we
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: see the Veterans March. You know, I think, you know,
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: we should look at this more seriously. Why why would
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: them those people who've served the country, you know, spend
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: years of their lives at it be back in these
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: people So hopefully that that's that's what it was about.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: Don't make it happen. I'm gonna try and make something happen.
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: Yeah, Neil, I'm not going to sort of labor any point. So,
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: like I say, I'm just sort of trying to play
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: Devil's advocate a bit here, because otherwise there'll be people
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: out there that will be pissed off with me, going, Chris,
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: why didn't you bloody as? But no, no, I won't.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: I won't. I won't.
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: Labor these points. I mean, it is interesting. What we
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: have to remember is every single person that joined Labor,
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: every single person that joined Conservative, and every person that
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: joined every other party live them, Green Party, etcetera, etcetera.
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: They all joined Neil with the best intentions for their
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: country and their people, and every single one got corrupted
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: to a woman. So you're up against some powerful juju. Brother,
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, you know, I just pick
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: you up to pick up on that point. You made again. Yeah,
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: it's this is this is why I live a bizarre life, mate,
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: is because because you know, I've got a dog in
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: this fight. Mate, These these fuckers, they hurt someone that
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: I fucking love. And you know, and and I'm I'm
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: not on my own there in the in the world, now,
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: am I. You know, there's a there's a lot, a
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: lot of people. So yes, on that point, Neil, I
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: wish you all the best. Obviously, it goes without saying.
- 1:16:45Speaker 3: I'm always here for for you know, if I can
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: help in any any way at all. I fully admire
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: anyone that steps up to the plate and anyone that
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: takes an interest in this land. And you know, I'm
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: not even a nationalist. It's nothing about that, Neil. You know,
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: I'm proud, proud to be English, of course i am.
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: You know, what a great heritage and great place to
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: come from. Someone's going to pick me up now and
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: say what great heritage? What the slavery and the colonization.
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: But my point is, you know, I'm not against anybody
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: or anything. It's just the rate that it's happening is
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: going to cause tears. It's happening too fast, you know,
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: it's happening. When I saw that video the other day,
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: it was of an immigrant father and he got his
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: don't quote me here, I paraphrasing, but the video was
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: put on Twitter. He got his five lads to batter
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: this little white English lad over some that had obviously
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: been some quarrel in the school. And to see this
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: little boy get you know, he's a fucking child, for
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: fuck's sake. To see the terror in his face as
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: he's got five lads, three of them like twice the
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: size of him, with a father gone go on, you know,
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: getting their lads getting there like fucking makes me angry, mate?
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: What's that? What?
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: This is our where we live. We live here, we
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: have to live here, Our children have to grow up here,
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: and that one event is gonna scar that youngster for life.
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: Now that's his PTSD all. Yeah, that's him on the
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: drugs and the booze, just like I was. You know,
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: that's him having to go to what might seem bizarre
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: lengths just to kind of get a grip on this
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: this world.
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: So like I'm fully up for it. I support I
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: support everyone, just to wake up to what's going on.
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: It's an orchestrated plan to destroy you. It's not Islam,
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: it's not Istarmer. It's a dark network. They've been doing
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: it since the days of wind Rush and they are
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: very very good at destroying communities and that is their
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: sole lame. And if we don't wake up to it,
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: if we keep blaming politicians for what's happening, or thinking
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: Elon's going to come and save us, then we're utterly,
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: utterly deluded. It's all by design, it's all by a plan,
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: and it and and it's it's all by a group
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: who network phenomenally and they fucking hate you, Neil, and
- 1:19:35Speaker 3: they fucking hate me along with every everyone else. So sorry,
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: just get off my soapbox now, Neil. Much love to you, brother,
- 1:19:46Speaker 3: thank you for coming on the show. Much love to
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: everybody out there. I'm going to put all Neil's links below.
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: If people want to get involved, Neil, what's the best
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: way to start? With an email to you or go
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: on the website.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: Info Veterans, you know, for Freedom dot UK. Right there.
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: I'll pick it up and then we'll go from there.
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant.
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: Much appreciate anyone who does come forward. As I made
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: clear on there, it's not going to be easy.
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