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Episode 167: Is This A Match Made In HEAVEN?! · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Jax: At least. Okay. Greg: Mm-hmm. So that led me to a question, Jax. Who was somebody that you as a youngin' used to think of and was you just thought in your childhood was a lot colder than what reality was? Jax: See, I don't like this question because I feel like everybody who I thought was cold, I feel like I think I feel like they were cold. Like I like J.R. Smith. I thought he was cold. Jared Bayless was annoying as hell. Even especially on 2K, Jared Bayless. I hated that. I hated that man so much. Greg: Jared Bayliss. Jax: Boris Dio. Like I I think Boris Dio was cold. So I don't know. I feel like all the people I thought was cold were cold. But this is three names I could think of off the top of my head right now. Greg: But like, but I feel like colder than what colder than what you thought. You know what I mean? No, I mean like they're still cold. Like Spencer Halls is still like a good player. Nah, he was OD. He was he was O D with like coldest nigga. Best in the league. Jax: Yeah. Best in the league is absolutely ins absolutely ins. Greg: That does sound like a child. Cause boy, what the fuck is what the fuck was Jax: Exactly. Greg: But like did you overrate players because of how much you fucked with them? To a degree. I feel like I did that with T Mac. I feel like I severely Jax: I mean I Greg: overrated that nigga. Like I really did have him and Kobe conversations growing up. Jax: Now like when I was like a little, little kid, like the players I like were like Shaq and Tim Duncan, so you can't really overrate them. And then when Greg: Fairies. Jax: I started actually like learning about basketball and stuff, I like Kevin Durant and you can't overrate him either 'cause he's Kevin Durant. So there is that. Greg: That's fair. Jax: Is there any other What's that Greg: Who's Jax: one? what is his name? Hido Turkaloo. He was very I thought he was cold too. Well I think one day I looked up his numbers and he wasn't, so I was very, very surprised. Who else? Greg: Boris Dio was a good pick. Jax: Mo Williams too. Mo Williams too. Greg: You know, I'll say this. D'Angelo Russell, I really did have high hopes for that nigga. I'm not gonna hold you. I'm not gonna for sure. But I remember Jax: I thought he was gonna be good. And look, he's not as bad as everybody makes him seem. He's not as bad as everybody makes him seem. I don't care what the. Greg: that I remember that D loading era. Jax: Yeah. Greg: A nigga every year deloading. You're finished. It's you're done downloading. It's Jax: Never remember Perry Jones? He was at Baylor and then he I th Greg: I do remember Perry Jones. Jax: I thought he was going to be the next big thing. I'm not even joking when I say that. Cause he used to he got to play when KD got injured that one year. And he was n like he's always he was always nice. He was, I don't know, he was cold to me. But for whatever reason, I think he get I think I saw him on like that one podcast with that dude who used to play. I can't remember. He used to play for the Mavericks, and they got that Asian dude in the podcast. I don't know what it's called. Greg: Raymond Raymond Felton and Jax: Yeah, that that part, yeah, the ramp the one with Raymond Felton and them. I think he was on that one and he was talking about how like he he said like he sort of flamed out of the NBA because he couldn't adjust to how they wanted him to play. Like he was trying to like he wanted to be the he didn't want to accept a role type stuff. So I guess that's why Greg: Fairs. Jax: it didn't work out for him. But like I he was cold to me. And Greg: man. Jax: for what is worth Delante was for what it's worth was very nice. I don't care what nobody says. Greg: Delante West was nice. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I will say the D Lo specifically when he got traded to the Mets, it was just on about that that 2017 roster. Back when they used to have they would they Jax: They were friends. They're best friends, that's why. Greg: was hooping. what was that nigga named? Dudley was there. I remember Jax: Yeah. Greg: that. I remember that. I remember that squad. It was just a a young turnt ass squad. I think. Yeah. Yeah, you want to be Cardi. That was my Jax: In that remember that Playboy Cardi edit or whatever I ain't seen that in forever, bro. Greg: shit. my god, I did was Ronde? Ronde Hollis Jefferson there? no. I forgot about the biggest. Jax: Yeah. I thought running I thought running Hollis Jeffson was gonna be good too. I thought Stanley Johnson was gonna be good. I thought Justice Winslow was gonna be good, bro. Justice Windsor really pissed me off. I Justice Winslow really Greg: I d I did I did think Justice Winslow was finna be nice, bro. Jax: pissed me off. I thought he was gonna be cold, but I think he just gonna start getting hurt Greg: I thought he was gonna be. Jax: and I was like, dang. Greg: I thought Ben McLamore was finna be something crazy. Jax: That too. That too. What's a freaking Jeremy Greg: Damn. Jax: Lamb? I thought he was gonna be cold too. Greg: I just saw that nigga on my top Jax: Jeremy Lamb got a lot going on right now, but I thought he was gonna be I thought he was gonna be super duper nice, but Greg: Nah, that is. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. One person I didn't have no hope for, off rip, Royce White. I knew I already knew. Jax: He was afraid of getting on airplanes, bro. That don't like why do why would he try to go to the NBA if you know they fly everywhere? Like that's something you should have figured out in college, quite honestly. I d I don't get it at all. Greg: Nigga, I was so I was so pissed when we drafted him. Like that was a lottery pick. We drafted that nigga with a lottery pick. And I knew this was before I even knew about the planes, because I wasn't really locked in on that for real. But Jax: Yeah. Greg: then once I realized, he wasn't traveling because of his ins I was like, man, fuck no. Jax: Just wasted everybody's time. What's everybody's Greg: Wasting my time. Damn. That was a Jax: I wonder if he like how his contract played out with them. Greg: He got traded immediately. I think he got traded to Philly like the next year or some shit like that. Which is crazy for a lottery pick. But you can't fly. Jax: Why would you try like why would you this nigga don't get on planes? I'm not trading for you, bro. Like no. The fuck? But Greg: Why did they why did Philly agree to that? That's crazy. We must have attached something to it. Jax: Anyway. Greg: Wow. Well that being said. Welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keith podcast. The only podcast where we do something different every single day. Not an hour, not an episode. This is a daily thing. Quite literally, a daily thing. Had to switch it up for you. This is the podcast for casuals. If you are a casual, this is the show for you. I'm your host, Greg. This is my host, Jax. Welcome to the show. We won't waste any more time. We won't waste any more time because. We got things to worry about. Donations. Like the donations. Donations. Donations Here comes the Here comes the money. Make sure y'all comment down. Well, make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe. This link is down below for a reason. we not begging. Shout out to shout out to Dana. We for sure not begging. But if you got it, it's that link down below. It is that link down below. a lot of things to talk about, so let's go ahead and get into the things that we do not care about. We do not care. speed run through him. Jax, it's not on the we do not care just yet. Jax: Okay. Greg: But do you remember talking about Victory Vaka? He was the Jax: Victory. Greg: you said what? Jax: Victory vodka? Greg: Yeah, you remember you remember that that college football player that got hoed because his mother died? Jax: yeah. I thought you were saying Victory vodka, like the drink. I was like, what? Greg: Niggas said that's LeBron Hennessy. No, nigga. Jax: But yeah, no, I I remember talking about that, yeah. Greg: we did not update our audience about any updates about that. But back in August going into September or whenever that was, he was able to hit the transfer portal, and he was able to get signed or yeah. I guess join or transfer to Tennessee, middle Tennessee, if Jax: Okay. Greg: I'm not mistaken, with the help of famous rapper Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne got an attorney for this nigga and and covered his legal fees to make sure that he wouldn't have to expend any more money. I think they text on on a on an occasional basis. I was like, Wow. Shout out shout out my nigga Toochie like I was like, Okay. Random Jax: Yeah. Yeah. Ran random as hell, but good. Greg: side quest, don't know how that happened. Jax: No I'm no I think Lil Wayne does have like cash money like a sports agency or something like that. I'm pretty sure they do. But still very still very random. Very, very random. Greg: He might. And he's probably more and he's probably he's probably more tapped into college more than ever 'cause his son plays for plays for Colorado, I think, as a kicker. Jax: No, his son just got offered. I don't think he plays. I think his son's in high school. Greg: No, he'd be cooking. He he be kicking, right? Jax: Not his son was just a a kicker in high school though. Greg: I thought was already in college. okay. Well, shout out my nigga Tonchi. Shout out my nigga Jax: Yeah, shit. Yeah. Greg: Tonchi. I did not did not know your bag. but that being said, we do not care. Next, Messi retires from international play. I ain't gonna lie. I I kind of s saw this coming because I I just didn't see this nigga I I I just assumed that that World Cup was gonna be his last World Cup. He wasn't gonna that's like LeBron saying, Hey, I'm I I'm not playing in the twenty twenty We know Braun. We know you not touching twenty twenty eight. Jax: Do we though? Greg: I I know. I'm for sure. Jax: LeBron LeBron be doing some weird stuff, so. You never Greg: You were right. Jax: know. But but on October sixth, though, Messi played his final match against it was a friendly match, I guess, against Benin. so he played October sixth. Messi he contributed to every goal. They won three Messi he assisted the first two goals before scoring his final international goal on a penalty. They for sure drew it up like that on some like movie stuff, but like He's Messi, so they'll get they can do that. I ain't nobody mad at it. So shout out to Messi though. I guess he's Greg: For sure. Jax: the GOAT for real. Cause I think with him and Ronaldo, it used to be like that Tom Brady, Peyton Manny thing, how like back in the day everybody was like, they're one and two. And then Tom Brady just like just kept going and he didn't retire. So I think it's sort of like that. And Greg: Yeah, the gap yeah, the gap just kept getting larger. Jax: I think like that with Messi and Ronaldo. Although I think it's the gap is a little bit closer than it was Peyton and Tom Brady, but still. If he's not the goat, he's one of the goats. So shout out to Messing, man. Greg: Nah, he I think he is pretty much the goat. I Jax: Yeah. Greg: think even even niggas like myself that saw Ronaldo and was like, this nigga's cold. At some point it was just like, Longevity, this nigga still officially hooping at the highest level. I it just gets to a point. Ronaldo was definitely looking like Peyton Manny in his last years as well. 'cause Peyton Manny was looking crazy. In the last couple years, or at least the the very last year. But you know, happy retirement. Happy retirement. Next up. We do not care. Marlon Humphrey is a coon. I'ma be honest with you, Jax. I've seen Jax: Right. Greg: more Marlon Humphrey tweets in the past two years than I've seen him physically play. I know he probably I know he plays. I'm not saying he doesn't play. But I don't be Jax: He do be hurt all the time though. He do be hurt a lot. Greg: I see his I see his tweets more than I see football. But Jack's take it away. Why is he a cool? Jax: It is very it is it is very frustrating because Marlon Humphrey he he used to tweet a whole lot and then he stopped. I think he's starting to tweet more again, which is unfortunate for all of us. But Marlon Humphrey, along with his teammates, Tyler Loop, who's the kicker for the Ravens. Marlon Humphrey is the Ravens corner, by the way, if you did not know. But him, Tyler Loop, Ryan Eckley, and Nick Moore, they went to visit Donald Trump for honestly, I don't even know what they went for. He was having some type of rally or whatever, I guess in Baltimore. They went to support, I guess you wanna say, whatever you want to call it. people were understandably upset he faced backlash. And this was I'm this whole interview or whatever, I'm not gonna play it because it's three minutes long, but this is just some of the stuff he had to say about the whole thing. Sorry, but side note with the ping pong going on in the background, I feel like I'd be if my team isn't 4-0, it's y'all niggas playing ping pong, bro, I'd be so upset. Greg: The niggas is unserious. Jax: But let me let me press play again. Let me get back to it. Greg: Nigga, I don't give a fuck what you like, nigga. I don't give a fuck what you like. Jax: I hate people like this. I maybe look. I don't I don't know about politics. I don't want like, yes, you do. You you can't be a maybe you don't know every single policy going on, because nobody does, because there's a lot of stuff happening right now. But if you are a person who is alive in the United States, you can feel the effect of literally everything going on politically, whether it be the increased gas prices, the increase Just prices of everything in general, the people being picked up by ICE agents, just like the the increase of like just hate speech and stuff. Like you know what this stuff is. And then another reason I hate when people say stuff like this on some, I don't know politics and everything, and it's not really an endorsement of what I believe and stuff like. You're an NFL player, so. I know you have an agent or you more than likely have an agent and that agent more than likely talks to you about like the PR aspect of things. So you're this big athlete. You know what optics are. So even if you don't know any of the even if you don't know a single policy that Donald Trump and them are, you know, espousing or whatever, you know the optics of what this stuff will look like. If you are taking pictures with someone who is a rapist, a or an alleged or no, he is he's a convicted rapist. An alleged pedophile and a scammer, a racist, just this you you understand the optics of all of that and you're still just like gung ho about it. And then when people like this question you you don't even have your head like I I hate people like that, bro. It just pissed me off, bro. If you're gonna do something, just stand on it, but you did not stand on it. Greg: And I hate, I hate, and also hate it because he's trying to move like he James Harden. Like James Harden don't got internet. Nigga, you do. You tweet. You tweet, nigga. He can get away with that. Not you. Anybody, not you, nigga. You Jax: Yeah, you be you you be on the internet. I know you do Greg: can't get off on that. I refuse to let you get off on that. Now I do believe. That you've never voted a day of your life. And I are and if I'm being honest. Jax: Also. And I'm sorry, another thing he's like, I will I will learn for this next brother, the election it's it's now. You should be voting now. Greg: Brother, this nigga think he got two more years to brush up. No nigga. Jax: Like no. The election's happening right now. Greg: Brother, I respect his honesty because that allows me to respect how he moves even more. I would hate for him to just blindly vote for some bullshit. Then just not vote at all. And I get it. Not voting at all is basically a vote for Trump. But look, I would rather you just not even participate. Because you not even, you don't, you don't got nothing going on in between here. And I already know there's some CTE going on because most football players do have CTE. You have that with the combination of Kuhn. I don't even know what your wife, I don't know. I don't Jax: The the co the coon chip activated. Greg: I I I I'ma just assume your wife is not a black woman. I'ma just assume it. Really? Jax: No, he he's married to a black woman. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pr I'm pretty sure. Greg: Wow. Okay. Well, that destroyed my argument. But No further comments, Your Honor. No further qu no further questions. Jax: But no, another another reason stuff like this pisses me off is sort of the next on the list, which don't press the we do not care on this one. Cause I I feel like the last two, like, we don't like we don't care, but like we do in that it feels disrespectful to press we do not care and then talk about the but Greg: I s I know what you mean, for sure. Jax: yeah, but this next thing I want to talk about though, like you have people like Marlon Humphrey who like, man, I don't know politics, I don't know what's going on, blah, blah, blah. Then you have others like Kentucky State basketball player, Amina Seck, who was released yesterday. From or not yesterday, my fault. Whenever this her name is, I don't know why it says Amina. Her name is Aminada, but yeah, she was released from ICE detention after posting bonds. She was detained on August 7th, and she's a basketball player for Kentucky State. She was a center for their basketball team and she was while she was in isolation, she was in solitary confinement because she has a knee brace because she had recently torn her ACL and they were afraid that, my gosh, this knee brace could be used as a weapon. And like during her detention, she was shifted to like four different detention centers. she was had I think she had a seizure as well during this whole thing. And all of this happened. She was taken in detention by ICE because they say she overstayed her Visa that she applied for in twenty nineteen when she came over to the US for or to play college basketball. And they issued a I forget the official name of it, like a order to return or order to report or something like that. But she never they never got in contact with her, so she didn't know about this whole thing. And then boom, ICE pulled up on her and detained her and had her in one of those facilities. So it's just like it's frustrating to hear like athletes like Marlon Humphrey be man, I don't even know what's going on. And then like you see these results of like real life consequences of the actions and inactions of people like him. So it's very frustrating. Yeah, I mean, at least she is no longer in detention. Greg: Yeah, and I ain't gonna lie. Being being in a facility and well she had to transfer like different times in the facility, but to be detained since August seventh, that's we're we're talking two months. Jax: And she she was a she was detained at the airport. I guess I think the team might have been travelers. Greg: Yeah, she was detained. Yeah, she was detained at the airport, I think. yeah, in transit. and I th you know and I think the reason why she wasn't able to go, I g I guess the report, I guess when they had the report or whatever, I think the first time when they asked her, I think it was in in the midst of surgery, and I don't think she could walk at that time. So she was unable to just really like report physically. Jax: Yeah. Greg: and I don't think they gave her a follow-up date. They just came in, got the handcuffing and said, Nah, you're detained. Hold on. and and that's what that's what people having like backing. Like she had a good support group and people behind her. And even then it took a couple months to kind of get out of there. there there's plenty of of people that don't have that same support that Jax: Exactly. Greg: are just there trying to offend you know, fen you know, fend for themselves. also recently, Mississippi Valley State's basketball player just got picked up by Ice, I think the other day. So it it's not Jax: Yeah, that's great. Greg: it's not even just her, it's it's other athletes. from from all D one, D two, it doesn't matter where it's at. So I'm glad she's safe, but it it just does make the Marlon Humphreys of it all just feel very idiotic and stupid. Jax: Yeah. Greg: It's just yuck. Jax: but rest in peace to Mike Ditka. legendary, legendary Greg: Go. Jax: football with tight end coach, everything, hall of famer. Just he's one of those like we obviously were too young to watch Mike Ditka, but like we knew who he was because his name is like When he was the head coach of the 85 Bears and he was his name feels like synonymous with like old school football and like that Greg: Football. Jax: hard-nosed, like we're gonna hit you and give you a concussion, and then we're gonna still keep playing because we're insane and blah blah blah. Like that's that's what I think of when I think of Mike Dickus. So he passed earlier this week at the age of eighty-six. Honestly. Impressive with the considering the era of football he came up in to live that long. But yeah, Greg: Yeah. Jax: restaurant Mike Dick, man. Greg: Yeah, chain definitely, definitely changed the game from a tight end position. A lot of people credit Shannon Sharp, which he did. Shannon Sharp was definitely integral in the part of tight end, but Mike Dicker, for what he was in his time, one Jax: He was like one of them first yeah. Greg: of them first ones, I think he had a year where he was like nine hundred yards receiving in that era. Jax: Nine hundred back then was like no he was Greg: Nine hundred back then. Jax: No, he in his rookie season he was the first tight end in NFL history to reach a thousand receiving yards. Greg: Rookie year. I think it was a unanimous rookie of the year, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if that's a point. A thousand Jax: I mean they never seen a nigga get a thousand yards before. It was like he gotta be rookie. Greg: yards in that era. Jax: Let me see. Okay. Fourteen games played, fifty six receptions, one thousand seventy six yards, twelve touchdowns. He aver n averaged a nineteen point two yards of catch. A deep Greg: Yeah. Jax: threat. His longest catch was seventy six yards. Mike Dickka was cold. I mean, obviously, 'cause he was Mike Ditka, but still. Greg: Yo, that's a th hey, that's a thousand and fourteen games. That's a thousand and fourteen, Jax: Yeah. Greg: like fourteen games. They had to start extending games before people passed up his like tight end records. Jax: That's a thousand on fifty catches. Like that's really a thousand on fifty catches for real. Greg: That's fucking nuts, bro. That's that's the type of thing. And then Jax: So yeah, that's the type of that's the type of player Mike Dick was the type of figure he was. Greg: and then get and then turn into a fucking Hall of Fame coach. He has a Hall of Jax: Yeah. Greg: Fame resume before even like without having the NFL playing ability. Like he's that guy. Jax: Yeah, let me let me go through his accolades. He was a champion of Super Bowl VI. He was an NFL Greg: sh a single digit nigga? Jax: champion in 1963. I guess that was before they called it the Super Bowl. He was Greg: Sheesh. Jax: the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. He was a two-time first team all-pro, three-time second team all-pro, five-time Pro Bowler. He was on the 75th anniversary all-time team, and also on the 100th anniversary all-time team. his number eight nine is retired for the Bears and he's one of the one hundred greatest Bears of all times. And as a coach, he's won Coach of the Year twice and he's won a Super Bowl twice. Super Bowl what? Twelve and twenty, if I got my letters correctly, if I got my Roman numerals correctly. Greg: That nigga won Super Bowl six and then won one as a coach six years later? God damn. Jax: Damn shit. How many years he played total? Let me see that. Greg: That's a I felt like that's a quick ass turnaround. From player to coach. Jax: He played twelve years total. What the hell? Greg: That's a respectable that's a respectable amount of years to play in that era. Jax: That's a lot of that's too many damn years to play in that area. Greg: He they they said he didn't they said he didn't miss a there was like did he Jax: Let me Greg: play for the Bears? Jax: Yeah, he played for the Bears. Greg: They said he never missed a game for the Bears. Jax: let me see. He he did not. He played fourteen games every single season with the Bears. Greg: Jeez. That's a different nigga, bro. Hey, that's a different nigga, bro. Cause the injuries them niggas used to have. Jax: They were probably shooting up all types they was probably shooting up all types of crazy whatever to keep playing back then. Greg: All that and he and he had a sound mind for what we you know for what we believe. We're not in that nigga personal, but like you know what I mean? Jax: Yeah. Greg: We didn't really hear no crazy shit from Mike Dicker, bro. Like this nigga head brain was still intact. Or at least he was functional. That's Jax: Yeah. Greg: fucking crazy, bro. Insane. There's there's certain people where there I I like and this is not to like get it off of Mike Dicker, 'cause we're gonna get Jax: Yeah. Greg: you know onto the stuff, but there's certain people That I still would like their brains to be tested even afterwards, like even because they weren't like such a head case, but they were just so crazy on the field. I just want to see how functional. Like Mike Dicka, Ryan Clark, I still want their brains, I still want their brains studied. Because every day I'm like, wow. Cause I saw it, I saw Jax: Yeah, I was thinking Ryan Clark. Ryan Ryan Clark really impresses me, bro. Like he was doing crazy shit. He was playing to die. Greg: the hits in live. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Him, you know, James Harrison, Ray Lewis, I wanna still see their brains even after they're gone. Yeah, like I Jax: I don't see Troy Palomalu's too. Really like that whole that that whole Steelers group. I need to let me just see that whole thing. Mike Tomlin too, because how'd he how'd he do all that? How do you manage that team? Greg: Bro, Mike Minecraft. Yeah. Minecraft was simulating Jax: yeah, you're right. You're right. Greg: that nigga brain. That nigga, that nigga was working all parts of his brain, bro. So yeah, like I know that like for like the horrible, you know, the Aaron Hernandez's and that stuff. Like, of course, they're gonna get studied, but I want to see like a functional human adult. Like, you know, I just want them to just go ahead and donate it just to see what what made them different. Jax: I would wanna see. I'd wanna see Michael Irvin's brain. Greg: I can live without that one. I can live without Jax: And on s I wanna Troy Aikman's brain because he had like twenty concussions and he still seemed normal. And then also I wanna see Tom Brady's brain just because I I don't think he's he has I don't think he's crazy 'cause of concussions. I think Tom Brady's just insane. Like I wanna know if they can figure out what like what receptor or whatever is turns is turned off in his brain that makes him a psychopath or whatever. So Greg: True. You know, I ain't gonna lie. I think, and he still has a lot of years left, like just in life. He's still young. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I you know, some days I am kind of interested in Teddy Bridgewater. Just a tad. He had a rough time. He had a ro he had a rough, he had a rough concussion Jax: They didn't have that many He had a lot of concussions. Greg: ear early in his career. He had some he had some pretty bad hits as a Viking. Jax: No, I thought his i I thought early in his career his injury was like his he had that crazy knee injury. Greg: I mean, yeah, he d I think he had didn't he have a knee injury in Louisville? Jax: I know he I know for sure he had one with the Vikings. I'm not sure about Loufo. Greg: I know he got concussed out real cold with the Vikings. I remember there's like a specific player I remember that nigga happening. But He still seems functional. But yeah, it pr it probably it probably wasn't like a it probably wasn't crazy enough, like it probably wasn't like a a repeated thing. Jax: I want to see Chris Olave too. 'Cause that nigga he done yeah, he done had a lot. He's he's still young. Greg: good one. Good one. Yeah. But had some has some had some hits. Jax: Hits the Greg: Yeah. I'll I'll have to I'll have to I'll have to do some research. But let's get into the things that we do care about. And the first day we're gonna talk about is that WNBA basketball Asia. Wilson. What a cold photo. Jax: Yeah. I don't even know who hand that is. Whoever's hand that they probably never both of them never expected this picture that be taken. This is a cold picture, but like we say, we're talking about Asia Wilson 'cause she just won her is it fifth consecutive? Greg: Fifth. Not n I don't think it's consecutive. Actually, I Jax: Okay. But regardless, she won her fifth and Greg: I I don't want him I don't even want to mess it up. I'm gonna look it up. Jax: Yeah, you're right, you're right. 'Cause did Nafe's no, they was doing that MV fee stuff, but I'm like I don't think she w won it though last year. Greg: Yeah, Asia Asia won it in no, it was not consecutive. Her Jax: Okay, yeah, it wasn't. Greg: first one was in twenty twenty and Jax: Twenty mm-hmm. Greg: then twenty twenty two and then twenty twenty four. Did she win last year? Did she win in twenty twenty five? Jax: Yeah. Greg: Okay, so this is her third consecutive if she won in twenty twenty five. Jax: Yeah, so Asia was my my mistake. She won her fifth total MVP, her third consecutive MVP. So I think it's Greg: She Jax: I I saw Bill Simmons. He was talking to Diana Tarasi and he was like, Man, Diana, you were my favorite WNBA player, but and you were my GOAT, but I think I just have to call Asia Wilson the GOAT because it's her. And she was just and Greg: Five is crazy, bro. Jax: Tarasi was just like, I mean, you're right, because nobody's ever Won five MVPs before. So that is the goat. Nobody can stop her. She's, I don't know, but she's the most decorated basketball player in the world right now. She, but five MVPs, three championships. Let me see. Two finals MVPs, three D poys, eight All-Stars, six all W MBAs, five-time all defenses, back-to-back-to-back scoring champ, back-to-back like block champ. She's she won that chip in the NCAA. I think she was the most outstanding player in NCAA Greg: Okay. Jax: as well. Like this is the goat. That's that's all we get. That's all we can really say about that, honestly. Greg: She's 29 by the way. Well, I think she just turned 30 in August, but all this basically under 30 or right at 30. Jax: Yeah, see just turned thirty, like you said. Greg: That's cr like like you s like she she still got this this really not even the back end of her career. Knock on wood, no major injuries, you know? So it's like Jax: Like she honestly though she has nothing to play for anymore. She like there's she's obviously going to keep playing, but if she wanted to stop, she could 'cause what can what can you say to this? Nothing at all. Greg: She is hooping her ass off, bro. Like. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Yeah, like I think I think at bare minimum, like even 'cause they just got they just got eliminated in the playoffs by the Golden State Valkyries. Jax: Yeah, we'll we'll get to that. Greg: We'll get to that, but yeah, I think this is like people are saying, yo, this is the perfect time to rebuild, bro. Like it's so easy. I'm not gonna say it's super easy, but easy compared to other sports franchise like like you know, other leagues. Jax: Please. Greg: It is so much easier and faster to do rebuilds in the WNBA. You can get right back up there the the f literally the following year if you just made like maybe two or three moves. She's at the peak of her powers. She's at that KD Golden State level where it's like you're not gonna stop him. You just gotta pray that she miss. That's where we're at with it. Nobody can guard Jax: Yeah. Yeah. Greg: her for real. She she she she guards herself. That's basically what it is. Literally, hand in her face. Jax: And she's shooting threes a little bit now. Which all right, bro. Like, what are we doing, bro? Greg: Bro, that nigga bam. That nigga bam is a demon, bro. I know they I I know they s they hoop sessions, they workouts, bro. Jax: I feel like maybe I need to watch more of her and more of Bam. So I may so maybe this comparison isn't right. I think it is I feel like she just like she plays like Bam if Bam was better, which isn't I don't mean as disrespect to Bam, but like she locks up on defense, she can push the ball, score in the mid range, she can shoot a little she scores better than Bam. She's like she played like Bam and Bam could score. Like if Bam could average thirty a game, that's what Asia Wilson is to me. Greg: Yeah, they do have they low key do have similar styles of play. and I kinda noticed that during like the BAM eighty three. Like Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: when I was watching the BAM eighty three, there were some moves I'm like Jax: I've seen that before. Greg: I've seen this before, but I couldn't tell if it was Bam biting off of Asia or Asia biting off of Bam. I couldn't really tell. I didn't know who took from who, but I see it. I can tell y'all live together. Like Jax: Ha ha. Greg: I can tell I can tell y'all work out together. I see the vision. Jax: Yeah. Greg: And nigga, they and the bet like I'm saying, the best is yet to come. They don't even have children yet. Those the real demons. That's where I'm that's where my mind has always been. Like your mother and father are decorate like they will always you cannot talk about the NBA without bringing up Bam eighty three. Jax: Andrew can't talk about the W NBA without bringing up Aces. So that Greg: Literally like Jax: I didn't think about that. But imagine the kids not even want to play Greg: Like they are both head border. Jax: basketball that's gonna be the funny thing. They kids don't want to play basketball. Greg: And you gotta let it be. If they wanna be Jax: Yeah. Greg: a free safety, let be a free safety, nigga. That's where Brock Jax: A seven two free safety. Greg: Seven seven two seven seven two Tyler Booker. Jax: But keeping it with the WNBA though, talk about some more of the awards that happened. Olivia Miles of the Minnesota Lynx, outstanding rookie. So she obviously won rookie of the year. She's cold. coach of the year, Shell Reeve of the Lynx as well. Defensive player of the year, Angel Reese. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: and those are all the well, I mean six play. Sixth player of the year is Janelle Salon of the Golden State Valkyries, who we're gonna talk about later. and most improved, Jessica Shepherd of the Dallas Wings. Those are all the important awards because no one really care the executive, with all due respect. Greg: They don't they don't have a hustle award? Jax: Not you know, I'm not even gonna look, I'm not gonna look because I don't care because that's a stupid ass award. It's a freaking hustle award. But Greg: Yeah. Jax: like I said, we're keeping it with the WNBA because the finals have officially been set. It will feature the Atlanta Dream led by A feature, Angel Reese's Atlanta Dream. Greg: Mm. Jax: Going up against the Golden State Valkyries, and like we said a little bit earlier, the Valkyries, they swept the Aces, which is Asia Wilson's team. They swept them three and in the Dreams, swept the Liberty three and as well. What the Liberty is defending champions, correct? Greg: Liberty. No, I think the Aces won last year. Jax: Okay, okay, baby, baby. But still, both of them I think they're in the finals against each other though, right? Or I'm crazy. Greg: Liber yeah, Liberty Liberty was in the final for sure. Jax: Okay, so yeah, the these two upstart, I think, because the Valkyries is a relatively new team, right? Thank you. So they got Greg: Second year. This is second year of in existence. Jax: to the finals this fast, and then the Atlanta Dream as well, who low-key went through a rebuild this season as well, because they just traded for Angel Reese. I remember when that happened, because he started off with the sky, so it's Greg: Yeah. Jax: Impressive to say the least that they got to it that fast. But I'll be honest, I haven't kept up too much with the Golden State Valkyrie, so I don't know who's called on their team, quite honestly. So for me and all my money, I'm going with Angel Reese in the dream because duh is Angel Reese. Greg: the black community is rooting for Andrew Reese almost similarly as black people in the NFL root for Lamar Jackson to go ahead and win that ring. Jax: Actually this scares me. Now I feel like they might lose because r a anytime the anytime the the the culture ev that team always loses. The team the team black people love always loses. Greg: I now I understand where you're coming from. I I do. I I really do. But the only pushback that I'll have is that everybody wasn't on the train at first. Everybody wasn't on that angel Reese train at first. A lot of jokes. You already know what was going on with with that with the Angel slander. Not us. Not us. We saw the vision. Jax: But you know how you know how it is, so yeah. Greg: We but you know how and it wasn't just and like it wasn't just white people. I hate when people Jax: Yeah. Greg: try to make it seem like it was just a racist white No, I there was unfortunately Jax: Unf unfortunately it was all of us. Greg: there were plenty of niggas that was you grabbing his own rebound. Shut up. I'm not trying to hear that. Jax: And honestly, and well really for what has worked, I never thought the me bounce thing, I didn't think that was a big deal as people were making it. I didn't think it was anything offensive at all. I thought it was clever, but and it's good that she's Greg: Yeah, I Jax: getting these rebounds in the first place. Greg: Yeah, get the get these fucking boards. but from from a Golden State standpoint, like Kayla Thornton is decent. I think she had like 18 points that game. 18 to 9. Kayla Thornton and Gabby Williams are people that like I kind of remember from the Golden State Valkyries. But like I Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: said, this is a very new it's a new team that just came into existence literally two seasons ago. This is their second season. And they're already in Jax: Crazy. Greg: the W NBA Finals. Yo, like, if this was any other team, like if this was like any other league, that would be fucking nuts. That would be, that would be crazy. You know what I mean? Like, I think the quickest somebody went to the NBA finals was like maybe OKC, but that, but that really don't count because you're just moving a team. Jax: Even then, yeah. Greg: You're just moving a team. You're not creating it from scratch. But like that's probably like the closest and I mean, granted, they had Kevin Durant fucking Russell Westbrook, but you had like notable name power. Jax: I think the Jaguars, like the early Jaguars, they obviously didn't win the Super Bowl, but I think they got to like the like an AFC championship or something like that when they first came in. But like Greg: Yeah. Jax: teams aren't supposed to rebuild, or not even teams aren't supposed to build this fast. So this is like I said, it's very Greg: That's what I'm saying, bro. Jax: impressive. Greg: That's just that just gives me hope for for my city, man. That just give me hope for the comments when they come, when they come to 2027, bro. If this is what y'all niggas doing in Golden State, okay, bad. Well let's let's see how fast y'all niggas can can get competitive. But yeah, shout out to AJ Reese. Shout out to the WNBA. I will be tuned in. this will be the first best of seven. That we then got in the W NBA playoffs so far. Everything has been best of three and best of five. We're getting a real game seven Jax: Yeah. Greg: now. So we'll we'll definitely we'll definitely see. But we will be updating you. Hopefully by next week we'll see something crazy. Jax: But moving on one more to we still not even necessarily move on, we're still keeping it basketball. I just want your opinion on this. SGA He recently did an interview with Time Magazine and they asked him about who's the best player in the world. And he he said he is explaining that I think I'm the best in the NBA because I think the production I have night in, night out, is best player in the NBA production. The efficiency I have is best player in the NBA efficiency. I think everybody picks up a basketball, soccer ball, football, tennis ball to win the game, match, or whatever. And I've done my fair share in winning these past couple years. How do you feel about that, Greg? You do you think SGA is the best player in the NBA? Greg: I think he should feel that way. Jax: That's not what I asked you. Do you think he's the best player in the NBA though? Greg: Yeah, I don't see why not. I'm I'm be honest, Jax: Okay, fair, fair, fair. Greg: like I don't like there's not like isn't I I Jax: I've seen people say Jokic and all that, like, 'cause it's a little bit his Yokic's a little bit Greg: I mean like I just haven't seen it Jax: different now. Wimby is still improving and up and coming, so I Greg: It's it's one of those things where I feel like there's no there's no like LeBron or KD where it's like a clear definitive Jax: Yeah. All all that's over. Greg: like there's no like clear and definitive like it's just kind of like which playstyle did do you like more than the other because they're all pretty much they're all at pretty much like a same tier level. Where it's kind of like pick your poison if you want to like, I still think Giannis or I still think Jokic or I think SGA. Or if you want to be somebody that's new and upcoming and you think Wimby is like that nigga for him to have like the run that he had to just even get to the NBA finals at such a young age. Like those are like your four. I think anybody else after that is like a reach. After Jax: Yeah. Greg: after Jokic, Giannis, Jokic Yannic, SGA, and who's that in the guy said? Yokic Yannish. Jax: we tell me. Who's that name? Greg: Yokis Yanish, SGA and Wimby. Yeah, those four. After those four, anything else is kind of a reach. And low-key Wemby would be a reach right now. But like I can understand if somebody said it. Jax: 'Cause they they be they be giving him the best in the NBA. Like I understand I see the vision, but like I don't not I not yet, bro. Not yet. Greg: Yeah. I would I would say that and rush you know, and r they they giving it to him like they was trying to give it to Luca. Jax: Listen, bro. And probably people gonna be mad Greg: And Lucas still ain't Jax: as you ain't even include Luca in your in your four, probably. Greg: Can this nigga even get an MVP award before we even put him in certain conversations, nigga? Like fuck a fuck a NBA finals. Like, cause he's been to a finals, but like, fuck winning Jax: Yeah. Greg: a championship. Can you give me an accolade that's besides first team all NBA, can we can we get an MVP at least before we just say, yeah, he with the Yonis and he's always somebody's dark horse MVP. He's always, you know, when you have these trajectories of who would you have in the next five six You know, the start your roster for the next five or six, seven years. Luga was always a part of that. And it's like, yeah, I get it. But the older he gets, the more it's like, okay, nigga. All right. Jax: That that that image of Luca is a lot a a lot different now, I will say. A lot different now. Yeah. Greg: Absolutely. We'll see we'll see what it looks like this go round. Jax: Yeah. I would say he I've seen a little bit of the pre he looks good, but I mean to look he always looks good in the pre season. They always all they all everybody look good in the pre season. Yeah, so Greg: And everybody look good. Everybody looked good in preseason. Yeah. Jax: not really much you can glean from that. Greg: So we Jax: let's talk baseball real fast. In the in the in Greg: Mm. Words I thought you would never say. Jax: the limited capacity that we that we know how to. But Greg: Okay. Jax: we've talked about it a couple of times. There will more than likely be in I didn't Not even more than like there will be a baseball MLB lockout. Could you hear me? Greg: Yeah, I agree. Jax: But yeah, there will be an L B lockout. It's speeding towards that way. And because of this, the MLB a couple of days ago they they released a f a thirty f I'm s ug Why can I say words? They released a 34-page memo to the owners on rules for a potential lockout. Some of those rules include no trains or signing between players and teams. The MLB will not stop players from playing in other profession leagues. Players NIL and videos will be scrubbed from official team and league websites. the major league rule five draft rescheduling will be determined in bargaining. Team staffers can attend a players' wedding, but they have to avoid talking shop. Team staffers cannot send players home. holiday cards are gifts, team stores can still sell merchandise with the players, name, image, or likeness though. I just think these rules are funny. Like you you can you can go their way, but you can't really talk to for real. You can you can't send them no happy holidays, no I just no, I thought that's funny. Greg: Nigga said you can't you can't interact with our product, nigga. It's over. Yeah, and and it's gonna be lengthening. Jax: The the most surprising thing to me is the player name, image and likeness and videos being taken off the team and league websites. Cause what's finna be on the website then? Greg: Nothing. David I wonder I wonder how this I wonder how this affects the draft. Jax: They ain't having one. But I mean the whole the whole point of this lockout though has been the owners want to do a salary cap and the players are like, No, and the MLB is the only league in the US without a salary cap. And people like reporters and other outsiders or whatever are starting to be like, Maybe something could happen because a lot of these negotiations the owners always win because that's That's just how that's just how it'd be working. No one is always winning these negotiations. But some of them believe that there could be a little bit more wins or a little bit more leverage for players to have because I think the MLB is signing a new T V deal and if they miss X amount of games, I can't remember exactly. They won't be able to sign that T V deal. And that T V deal will bring literal like billions to each and every single owner. So if they don't do that, that payday is gone. If they don't like rectify the situation in time for that, that payday is gone and the owners will lose a whole lot of like financial leverage. So that's Very interesting to see like if something does in fact, you know, go well for the players. I feel like that'll be like the first union we've ever seen. The first like time a union has won against a league in a very long time. Greg: Yeah, 'cause most of the time when when a union thinks they win, it's just because the wording looks nice. But ultimately, like Jax: Yeah, exactly. Greg: there's sloopholes and and ultimately the owners in the long haul like, you know, get what they want long term, but in the short term, here nigga damn, extra money or here extra benefits or whatever the case may be. So there might be a little bit of wiggle room this go round. I didn't know about the T V deal. But yeah. Jax: Yeah, okay. I th I found it says if the league misses sixty games or more next season, which is a very real possibility, most Greg: That is real. Jax: of the MLB's national contract would extend out to for another full year into 2029. and that will, like I said, affect their new media rights deal they're trying to get by pushing it out a whole year. And the net economic damage to the owners would total between two and four billion dollars with a B. So those are those are numbers that owners don't like to hear. Like Like what's it called? Greg: Yeah. Jax: what's dude from the Clippers? Like he can get fined like a million dollars or whatever and be fine 'cause it's just a million. But losing billions, that's gonna get the owners mad. That's gonna be like, Hey, we need to change something, so we'll see. Greg: Yeah, 'cause sixty games shit, that's like that's like a couple of months, right? Jax: That's like a third of the ski thing 'cause what the baseball season what, hundred and eighty two? Greg: Yeah, a hundred a hundred and eighty two games, so sixty. Jax: another an also another thing I saw, the players are trying to re my they're thinking about reducing the number of games. So I think like one fifty or in that range. Greg: Cutting thirty games would be significant, I'm not gonna lie. You that that's a real you could really feel that difference. That's still a lot of games, but still. Jax: Niggas be playing two games in one day, bro. They can they can cut some games. Greg: Yeah, they do be playing two games, especially after a rain delay. They'll try to just postpone it. And it's crazy 'cause it's like you're playing game one in the daytime and then you have what, like a three hour rest and then you go back out there. Jax: Like when I found out that's literally what a doubleheader was, nigga, I d I was like, What do you mean they played two professional sports games in a single day? That's insane to me. Greg: That's real AAU ball right there. My and my Jax: Yeah, like yes, insane. Greg: that, yeah, I can see why y'all niggas don't have a salary cap. You're you're killing me. Jax: Yeah. Greg: You putting me through the ranker, nigga. but yeah, hopefully it gets figured out rather quickly. But I hope the union wins. I always tend to root for the for the union in the grand scheme of things, but we'll see. Jax: Yeah, we we know how that goes. But some quick hitters with the NFL. NFL has been, or the referees in particular have been tripping. Like the NFL the referees, the the fining system, that whole whatchall, has been tweaking to say the least. let me see. Last week, in fact, or last Sunday was Adrian Hill, a referee. He Cr not crass is too much. Crass is too much. But he had a like I said, he had a strong reaction when Vikings linebacker accidentally bumped into him. Let me play this. 'Cause you see he was pushed into the ref. He was like, shoot, my fault. Let me try to help you up. Greg: Okay. Jax: And he got on his ass for So that was him, Adrian Hill, and then where's the other one? This one was funny because it's Trey McBride, tight end Greg: Ha ha ha. Jax: for the Cardinals. And him and the ref are going at it and the ref is screaming, Fuck you, fuck you which is magically caught on camera. Greg: Crazy. Jax: both of these refs were suspended. Jeff Seaman, which is a crazy name. he was the ref that was saying, fuck you. He got suspended two games in Adrian Hill with the Vikings situation. He got suspended one game for it. So the refs they're tripping. I think the NFL notices is too, because they also started rescinding fines. I remember we talked about Kyle Yuzchick. He like did like he mimed like a drinking celebration when he scored. And they fined him for it, and then Yu Chek appealed it, said it was hypocritical, and the league was like, Yeah, okay, we we tweaked with that one, so we rescinded that fine. Same thing happened with Jake Ferguson. So I don't really know. The NFL is they're tweaking a little bit, to say the least. Greg: They should have kept they should have kept that Jake Ferguson fine. Jax: I don't even want to talk I don't even Greg: They should have kept that nigga fine, bro. I'm not gonna lie. Don't give that nigga that shit back. It pissed me off. Jax: Jake Ferguson. Man, anyway let's let's keep talking. Let's keep talking Greg: Okay. Jax: football. another another weird thing happened. I don't even know how to news that broke, that's not really news, but breaking news the Cardinals are finalizing a deal to trade wide receiver Marvin Harrison. team informed him this morning that he'll be inactive for Sunday's game against Detroit as the details of the trade are finalized. You might be wondering, who he's getting traded to? Nobody knows. They just they just put this out. Greg: Nobody fucking Jax: For hey, we're gonna trade Marvin Harrison. The who? No answer. Like, what the fuck? Do you have a deal lined up? I don't Greg: I swear to God, bro. Jax: think they do. I feel like they just I I don't think they Greg: Right. Jax: have a deal lined up. I just see they wanted to put him on the trading block in a very public way. It's very, very weird. Greg: Bro bro, that shit so fucking Bro this shit ridiculous, bro. I swear, bro, like niggas would have killed Shams for doing some shit like this, bro. If Shams ever did some shit like this, I we wouldn't we wouldn't hit Jax: I feel like Shams has done something like that. And he probably has rightfully gotten killed for it. 'Cause this is still like nigga, this is not news, bro. Like Greg: Nah, but like with Shams, with Shams, he the difference between Shams in this situation, Shams would say things and then he'll like retweet it like two minutes or two seconds later with more details and then a more and then re-like he'll retweet it on retweets until the full thing is out instead of just having like one paragraph of like what the actual thing is. But at the end of Jax: He do be doing that. He just quotes a tweet, putt quotes we put like, All right, Sam. Greg: the day. I still get it in a 10 minute time frame and ultimately he tells me where a nigga is headed. This nigga just left us on a cliffhanger. That nigga Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: just said, Hey, he's packing his bags. He's about to get traded. Okay. Like even when Shames was getting like heat for like Yon the Yonis trade or whatever. Like he still told us that where he was gonna go. Like, he still gave us a destination. Or he would have, or even if it's like with Kyrie, it was like a a wish list that came out. You know what I mean? Like there's like some destination. Here's the top four destinations. Or like with LeBron, these are four or five destinations. You're not giving a shit. We're hearing speculations Jax: How? Greg: about the Texans, but you're not telling me about the Texans. Jax: Yeah, th that's I see the team they said were out were the Colts, Greg: And the Chiefs. Jax: the Chiefs, which I Kansas City, y'all niggas should reconsider that. Y'all niggas should reconsider that, but Greg: Nah, they ri they dropped out when they heard first round or second round. He's like, hell no. Jax: I don't think he's going for it for and like the Chiefs are gonna be good. So it's gonna be a late second rounder or late first or I'll I'm not turning a first rounder for him, but one, he is they don't use him at all. So I feel like y'all need to lower that asking price to him. I might get you a third or a fourth, or maybe do what Greg: They want Tyreek, bro. Jax: do what Dallas did for Joey Porter, like a six this year and then a second the next or something like that. Like, I don't know. I think Greg: No, they w they want Tyreek, bro. Jax: Tyree got Tyree got a lot going on, bro. Tyree got a lot going on. Yes, I saw that. Greg: Did you see that? It's not funny. Domestic violence is not funny. That video that was funny. Jax: Tari got too much. And honestly, bro, I think he's gonna I think this is only like civil court, not criminal. I think he's gonna end Greg: It is a rule. Jax: up beating quote unquote beating the case. Cause Yeah. Greg: Yeah. After watching that film. Jax: Aye. Greg: God damn, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. But Jax: Yeah, but the Cardinals only did this in the strike is that the Warriors paid Brandon Pozymski five or a hundred ten million dollars over five years. We're not talking about this, but just interesting to say the least. Greg: It's just funny how a deal finally gets done when he gets waves. This is really irking my soul. Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. I hate this. Jax: like i said still football sean payton has decided to take over play calling duties for the broncos offense this comes after this comes after the broncos have they've been winning games but like it don't look good and I don't think Sean Payton can fix I think this is a Bo Nix problem because I don't think Bonex is good. So there's that Greg: Yeah. Jax: But yeah, since cause before Sean Payton, he was the offensive coordinator all these years before. not the offensive coordinator, my fault, but he was the play caller for all these years before. This upcoming sea or this season, he promoted Davis Webb, the offensive coordinator, to that play calling role. It's Davis Webb's first time doing it. Davis Webb is a former quarterback for Sean Payton and knew the system and blah, blah, blah. Sean Payne was like, you know what, I'll let you try for a little bit. I think this article has some of the numbers of the Broncos offense. Yeah. They're near the bottom of the league, ranking in scoring, yards Greg: Yeah. Jax: per game, rushing yards per game, passing yards per game, QBR, offensive EPA. And Sean Payton said, Enough, goddammit. Give me the controllers back. And I guess, Bill, I respect that. I don't like it. I don't know. I don't really think it's a Davis Webb problem. I think it's a bone's problem. Cause I've seen a lot of like film cut-ups and niggas are just like, These players are open. He just not throwing the ball. So there's not really much you can do to fix that. It's on the player. But hey, maybe it'll work out for Sean Payton. We'll see. I don't know. Greg: Sean Payton and Bo Nicks be having heated exchanges on the sidelines. And I don't know if that's gonna increase or decrease after having Sean Payton call plays. Jax: It's gonna be the same as it always was. The same amount. Greg: And weirdly enough, this nigga Bo Nicks be so comfortable like exchanging words with this nigga. Jax: I feel so safe. He feels so safe. Greg: Like he feels so because when it first happened, I was like, Hold on, nigga, wait. That's Sean Jax: That's Sean Payton. Greg: Payton. And I'm thinking about I'm like, Russell Wilson wasn't he would never do no shit like this. And then I'm just like, Maybe this the shit he liked. Maybe Sean Payton that that's that's the type of quarterback he liked. I'm trying to remember what the fuck was Drew Well, first of all, Drew Brees wasn't fucking up like this, so there Jax: I can't I don't remember. Yeah, Drew Breeze is actually good. Drew Breeze was great, so Greg: That nigga was at peace. You know, there there was no n there was no need to cuss this nigga out. Jax: Like they they might have cussed each other out, but like you you're Drew Brees, bro. You can you can cuss your coach out. And he can cuss back. He's Sean Pete. Y'all y'all can do that. Y'all can do that. Greg: Yeah, but it w it wasn't as frequent because together they they got they they had their shit together for most for most Jax: Yeah. Greg: of the time. So like it was there there was there's a lot more cheering and cussing out. But this boat nick shit, I I'm not understanding it. Because was that was that his guy? Did he ask for this nigga? Jax: That that's what the story was coming out of the draft, 'cause I remember they had like Greg: Weird. Jax: leaked that somebody else was trying. Yeah, 'cause I think Michael Penix got drafted before Bonex, I believe. I forget the exact corner. Okay, yeah. Greg: Yeah, he did. Yeah. He got he got drafted in pick eight because that's when Atlanta niggas were like, my god, we just had Kirk Cousins. It was just it was a surprise to everybody. Nobody expected Michael Penny's to get drafted that early. Or at least not to Atlanta. Jax: Yeah, okay, I'm I'm remembering the story now. It I think it leaked that the Broncos had wanted to get JJ McCarthy. So that made the Vikings Greg: my god. Jax: try to get him and stuff before. And then the Broncos end up drafting Bo Nicks. And Champagne he came out and was yeah, that was all part of our plan. We wanted to make him think we were getting this guy so they can go take him, then we could go swoop around and get Bo Nicks. I'm like, I I guess that's what she wants. Exactly. I'm Greg: I don't know who to believe. I don't know who the fuck to believe. And yeah. Jax: I wouldn't necessarily be like, the next is Greg: A bad decision Jax: the quarterback that I need. But I guess Sean Payton, like, man, Sean Sean Payne need to call Tennessee because they don't they hate Cam Ward right now. And I sh if Sean Payne had Cam Ward guaranteed guaranteed. Greg: Man, fuck, man, hell bro. Sean don't give Sean Payton no other black quarterback, nigga. Please. I don't need that, bro. I saw what you did to Russ. You not finna just berate my black man quarterback like this, bro. Jax: I think he just ain't like Russ, bro. Greg: Man, what makes you think he gonna like Cam Ward? He's gonna to prove it to be. I saw I saw it Jax: Fair enough. Greg: once, and it's not like Russ is some some nigga that that just be what do you mean? Like, you know, a shit talker, an arrogant ass nigga or whatever. Jax: Yeah. Greg: He was just a Broncos country, less ride ass nigga, very joyful. And I can't understand if that annoys you. But if that annoys you, Jax: Exactly. Greg: I just don't believe a Cam Ward would make your day brighter when he talking talking crazy. And he not and Cam Ward don't even talk crazy, but I'm just saying like Jax: At least Cam Moore would keep it honest. If th if they're ass, they'll say they're ass. So Greg: Like you think he you think you think Sean Payne will give him that long of a leash like Bo Nicks when it comes to talking, talking to each other like that? I just don't see it. Jax: I mean if he's producing, 'cause I think Cam Ward is a much more or not even I know Cam Ward is much more talented quarterback than Bonick. So I feel like he'd be producing a lot better. Greg: Turn a nigga to Jeff Fisher. Jax: All right. Our last football topic. Lane Johnson, probably future Hall of Fame tackle for the Eagles, has unexpectedly retired. He did it like in the middle of the week, I believe. he's a two-time Greg: Yeah, you do. Jax: Super Bowl champion, six-time pro bowler, five-time all pro. Like I said, he did this in the middle of the week. He didn't play the Eagles last game. He was going to, and then he left citing he just had like personal reasons and came out. These are these personal reasons that he wanted to retire. I believe some have said that his parents might not be in the best health, so that's he's you know, retiring to go spend more time with them, etc. So very unexpected, very crazy. And this also comes as the Eagles, they traded one of their centers, Cam Jergens. They traded him to the Ravens. So now that Eagles online is down a Hall of Famer in Lane Johnson, another player in Cam Jergens, and they've already have been playing good. So we're gonna see Eagles. We're gonna see. Greg: Yeah. Yeah. And and that's on top of Devontae Smith and Saquon Barkley going through hamstring injuries will not be playing. So you Jax: Yeah. Greg: have so many things on the offensive side of the ball where it's like, damn, your weapons are not there and your protection is not there. So we we sh we shall see. We definitely we shall see. Jax: I think it I think it might be I think it might be that time. Greg: It is that time. We'll have the updated picks for you up here. But I'ma just let you know, wasn't pretty. Wasn't pretty by the both of us. I'm not gonna hold you both of us. it was it was a little a little bit rough. yikes. Anyway. And that includes the Bucks and Cowboys. We won't talk about it. We're not here to talk about that nonsense. But Let's let's let's let's go to the Let's go to the B E T bowl. Baltimore Ravens versus Falcons. Jax: Taking I'm taking the Falcons at this one, 'cause Lamar's hurt, so yeah. I'm just leaning towards the Falcon and the Falcons have been playing really good lately. So like I said, I'm leaning towards the Falcons. Greg: You know, the more they the more they hoop, the more I just wish I would have said that hot take about the Falcons four weeks ago. That would've that would've cooked. That would've cooked. I'm I am also going to pick the Falcons. there's just never a world where I just believe in Snoop Humphrey in prime time. Shout out to Snoop, he cool, but come on, I can't I can't do that. Monday night, Bills versus Rams. Jax: This one I don't know. you know what, I be hating on Josh Allen. So I'm gonna I'm gonna continue with that. I'll just I'll go Rams. 'Cause I I really Greg: That's you. Jax: I really don't know. So I was like, you know what, I'm just just stick with what I know. So yeah, I'm leaning towards learning. But I don't really feel Greg: Yeah. Jax: all that confident in it. Greg: it's in it's in Cali. So I can s I can see well, their home crown means nothing to me. Actually, yeah. Give me the Buffalo Jax: Yeah. Greg: Bills. Give me the Buffalo Bills. Jax: Josh Allen from California too. It's a little homecoming or whatever. Greg: been around. That shit crazy. Yeah, give me, yeah, give me, give me the bills. But Jax, what is your lock of the week? Jax: my lock of the week. Give me the Bengals over the Dolphins. Greg: Okay. Jax: The Dolphins just look really bad. I really I really wish the Dolphins were better, bro. Greg: I do wish so too. I do I do wish so too. Mm. Okay. My lock, man, there's a lot of there's a lot of games where I'm just like, man. man, I just really I really keep picking on these niggas. I'm trying my best not to. It's just so easy Jax: Mm. Greg: for me to just pick against the charges every time. It just it just seems like a if I was a gambling man, like I would just I would just spam that button. It's f Jax: It makes no sense why they're so bad, bro. Greg: and they're playing the Broncos. It's just I wanna do it. But I'm I'm gonna stay away from this one. Let me go Vikings over Saints. I'm not confident in that game, but I am a believer in that in that floor in that Mr. Flores defense. Jax: That that was gonna be my upset. Cause the Vik I don't know what's Greg: The the Vikings? Jax: wrong with I don't know what's wrong with the V They're four on no, but they haven't scored a touchdown like their last two games. Greg: Well he just he they the Kyler Murray just got back activated. So I'm I'm really just letting that nigga just get back and get get in some rhythm. Nigga got concussed. I'm let that nigga get into some rhythm. Jax: I guess, bro. I guess bro. I I I want them to be good, because I think Kyler Murray's good, but I don't know, bro. They be Greg: Hey man, they're leading the division. But at the same time, you know, the Giants are leading the the NFC E. So I mean, Jax: Shh. Greg: look. Jax, what's your upset? Jax: Ooh, I don't know about upset. You know what? You didn't pick this game, so I will I actually I'm not confident this at all. Fuck it, I'm gonna do it anyway. Give me Chargers over the Broncos, cause the Broncos they're missing like both both their corners is out. So we'll see. Charge is gonna lose this game actually. I don't even know why I chose that. Charter's finna lose. Greg: That's such an easy thing to just pick. I ain't gonna lie. I would've okay. Mm. Jesus Christ. What a stinker at one o'clock with the Texans versus the Titans. My goodness. Jax: I be want I wanted to pick the Titans, but it's just like They're both on four, it's crazy. Greg: Jesus Christ, I'm gonna leave that one alone too. I'm gonna go with the Raiders over the Patriots. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with Raiders. I I I I have high stock. They look really good, especially with Brock Bowers now too. They Jax: Is that's an upset? The writers over the page is an upset? Greg: They saying that that the New England Patriots have like a a they're playing a Foxboro, so they're giving they're giving the Patriots like a a three and a half. Jax: Yes. I feel like the Raiders have clearly demonstrated they're a better team than the Patriots. Why is it? Greg: People are still peop people are still. I mean, Patriots had that that big win over the Bills. And now everybody's like, we're Drake Mays back. Yeah, all right, but all right, brother. Jax: I guess bro. Yeah. All right, whatever, dog. Whatever. Greg: Yeah, shout out to them. I'm I'm s mmm. No, I'm gonna keep my pick because I I I need to get my record back up. But if I if I had a better record, I would be picking the Cardinals over the Lions. Jax: Yeah, okay. Greg: I would've I would have picked him. But that's that's for another week. Jacoby Brissett, just just remember, I am supporting you. I am supporting you. But Jax, I do think it is about that time, that real time. Jax: But Greg: Jax, what is your hot take of the week? Jax: My hot say of the week is Carly Ursa Gordon, the owner of the Colts, who be walking around on the sidelines with the headset. She's not wrong, bro. I stand with her. she was she got increasing Greg: Good. Whew. You scared me. Jesus. Jax: backlash for this. I don't know why. I thought everybody was over it. But she was giving an interview talking about it. And she had this to say. So yeah, she goes on the sideline and she always has a headset, and in the headset, she's listening in on what the coaches are saying. And like I said, people are getting mad about that, but I stand with her because damn it, I was watching that Cowboys Bucks game, and I was like, if I was the owner, I would need to be hearing what's being said. Because this is some bullshit I'm watching on my screen. And I can't I cannot have that Greg: Yeah. Jax: no more. I know Jerry Jones is old, and so he probably not even interested in doing all that. And honestly, I wouldn't want him to. But damn it, something would have had to change if I'm watching that game and I've seen all this bullshit happening. Cause that game was pissed poor and I hated it. So I ain't mad at her for having them headphones on, listening to the coaches, because sometimes they need whatever it is, whether it be a little bit of fear, because my gosh, the owner's listening, or I don't know, you need that to hold them accountable. Cause it's like I said, it was some bullshit going on. So yeah, I I stand with Carly Urs Greg: Ha ha Jax: and Corey. She she's doing the right. Greg: And for the Yeah, and and for the most part, like she do this stuff. She she mostly do all all this stuff pre game. Like she's not like on the field like during like actual game time for the most part. or specifically the one or especially especially the clip that recently came out that people were like talking shit about. That was pregame. Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: That wasn't even during the game. That was niggas was warming up and shit. So You know, women can't do shit in our league, so of course, niggas will always you know, have an opinion. Yeah. Jax: Need people just people just don't like women, bro. It don't matter. Greg: It it don't matter what they do. It it don't matter. I I g I just saw another woman just get slandered on my TO just now. just I just saw it like damn. Another one bites the dust. So yeah, I I agree. I stand with her. Jerry Jones, don't you ever do that though? You know, they're gonna take it out of context. Jax: Yeah, Jerry John, please don't. Greg: Yeah. They're gonna take it out of context, they're gonna be like, he distracted the team, this is a distraction, here you go, Jerry being Jerry. You already have a reputation, you can't do that. But other people Jax: And Jerry, not gonna lie, Jerry would have that, Jerry would try to call a play. Jerry would try to call a play. And and don't let that play work out. Don't Greg: No, that is. Jax: let that play get you like fire, then it's over. Greg: Man, don't let that shit be some yeah, he would he would never get off the headset. I pay for this motherfucker. Jax: Who fired a coach? Greg: On me. Jax: That day, actually. Greg: man. yeah. I was struggling to find a hot tech but it came back to me once I saw that Dak Prescott video. Jax: Where he looked back at the dude that was Greg: Yes. Yes. My hot take is I need niggas to stand on their takes, bro. I need niggas to not be pussy. If you're gonna say the take, if you're gonna Jax: Yeah. Greg: say what it just say it, bro. Don't don't be trying to half ass whatever you got to say. Now I understand this is like a third party worker. For people that didn't see it, basically Dak Prescott left the tunnel after an embarrassing loss because you did embarrass you lose to an over four team. That was had a backup quarterback with a purple and gold wristband. So I know he's a Q. That has nothing to do with what I said. I just had to say that. But in the midst of Dak's walk Dak running out that tunnel, so a nigga said embarrassing. And then a nigga turned that nigga, Dak Prescott turned back and stared the shit out that nigga. yo, stand on your takes. Stand on your takes. Now if you know you was being disrespectful, I Apologize or do whatever the fuck you, you know, say you took it too far, that's one thing. But saying shit like an embarrassing performance or whatever the fuck or y'all was playing trash, that's not disrespectful. That's being a fan. That is just simply Jax: Yeah. Greg: being a fan. And you should never be critiqued for being a fan. Will they respond back? Yes. There were niggas are emotional on both sides. Fans are emotional, players are emotional. So if you say something that a nigga don't like, Yeah, you have to understand there's a nigga that won't like it. That's okay. But if you truly believe that, you truly believe that. Jax: Say it. Greg: Say it and stick to it. Don't be don't be trying to pump fake. That's annoying. That's annoying as fuck. this is the four I this is the four year anniversary of that one clip that came out from a podcast where that guy was like yelling and cursing, basically talking about KD, KD isn't a legendary player. Jax: I I I seen that clip. Greg: Yeah, it's like the four it's the four-year anniversary of that. And granted, Jax: I guess. Greg: do I disagree? I wholeheartedly disagree. 1000. One thing, Jax: One hundred thousand percent. And he was clearly wrong. Greg: one thing you can never tell me. That nigga that nigga stood on it. He stood on it. And you know how KDB. KD's an interactive nigga. So during the time where that was blowing up, them niggas went on a Twitter space. And that nigga continued to speak it. He didn't switch up. So it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you believe in what you believe. He ain't calling no bitch ass nigga or nothing like that. So it's not like you you disrespecting a man's character or whatever. Don't be calling the dog Jax: Yeah, don't don't be calling people out their names. Don't do that. Greg: their names. Say your take. And if you want to say it passionally, that's fine. But don't switch up because you don't like that a nigga can respond to it. Niggas Jax: Yeah. Greg: can respond to it. Just keep just keep the same energy. Jax: You everybody's entitled to say what they want, even like you're entitled, so are they. So Greg: Exactly. And and and don't be trying to use that what you call it? I'm entitled to change my opinion. That don't work every time. Okay? That don't that don't that don't apply with egregious shit. I'm starting to see a lot of people out here back on that Andrew Reese train. Some of the shit y'all niggas was saying was borderline anti black. Some of y'all can't just be, I'm but you she hooping now. Nah, nah. Jax: She was always hoopy. Greg: She was always hooving. Don't do that. Don't do that. Cause I remember what some of y'all was, some of y'all was going a little crazy, black people included. That's why I had to say emphasis on black people. Y'all love to hide around high behind on white people. So yeah, man, stop being pussy about these takes, man. If Jax wanna say something, he's gonna say it. And he's gonna mean it. And I'ma disagree 50% of the time. But he's gonna stand on it. That nigga still don't like shrimp. Nigga hate crawfish. Jax: 'Cause it doesn't taste good. They don't those things don't taste good. Greg: Entitled to your own funky ass opinion, but he gon' stand on it. He gon' stand on it. How dare you? But he will stand on it. But that's my hot take. Jax, any last words. Jax: go outside, you know, go touch some grass, interact with people, go live life. Because life is short, man. Life is short. Greg: Life is extremely short. go touch some ass. Jax: and also never put your faith in the Dallas Cowboys. Don't do that ever again for anybody. Greg: I don't think any I don't think anybody does that except for us. be honest with you. Jax: Yeah. Greg: You're on your own, buddy. Yeah. be different. touch some ass with consent. With some with consent, please. For the love of God, with consent. And treat treat every week like a seven game series. You only have to win four. You only have to win four. I promise you that, man. Sometimes you can win all seven. Niggas be forcing the game seven, and you won all six of them today. Hey, more power to you. That's crazy. You just Jax: You just wanna keep playing. Greg: want to keep playing for the love of the game. Hey, shout out to you. But if you're having a bad week, just understand you just have to win four out of that seven, man. Treat it like a game. Hey, LeBron was down three one. Jax: Mm. Greg: Niggas be down. Now if you down though three, anything is possible. But that's a crazy way to start. Your Monday, Tuesday, Jax: Yeah. Greg: Wednesday go that crazy. Hey. Hey man, look. Jax: You might need to do something different in your life. Greg: You might have to. But even 03. Boston forced the game seven. You can still come out there and be like, I had you niggas shook. You know, you don't have to get whooped. You don't have to get your ass whooped. You can make this defeat look a little bit acceptable. So, any time in life, if you feel like some shit not going your way, understand you just got to win four out of the seven days out the week. You will be fine. Keep pushing, brother. No, I did not come up with this on my own. I did find it on TikTok. but I think I think it I think it's a a great analogy for niggas to just work on their small W's and their small victories. It's still Jax: Yeah, it it's still it's still valid, it still applies. Greg: valid. It's still valid. It still gets the job done. So with that being said, make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe, keep donating. We not begging, but do it if you need to. And we'll catch y'all niggas next week.