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- 0:00Speaker 1: Who doesn't like a book but inside you've gotta a
- 0:07Speaker 1: gecko doesn't set up any metal detectors. This is an
- 0:14Speaker 1: example of how tortoises are frequently smuggled, and they all
- 0:19Speaker 1: tapped to prevent them from moving.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I think this is the little way they are coming.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Illegal traders themselves have got very safe. They are selling
- 0:33Speaker 3: their products through cyberspace carousel.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Yeah okay, like I took a picture of the snake
- 0:41Speaker 4: just now.
- 0:42Speaker 5: Yeah, just put in a caption.
- 0:44Speaker 4: Very rare species. Good deal, no no hassle, don't need license.
- 0:49Speaker 6: And that's it and die good. You buy maximal for me,
- 1:00Speaker 6: mm hmm.
- 1:33Speaker 7: On top my mins more so to tical loo, I
- 1:38Speaker 7: would thank you, humpire not gonna be he patus mean
- 1:47Speaker 7: this this per mission the top a little time, the
- 1:51Speaker 7: mass the board partly he don't ambassa.
- 1:57Speaker 8: With my w hand to the about head. The band
- 2:14Speaker 8: from n by one.
- 2:17Speaker 5: Right, yeah, they.
- 2:20Speaker 7: Had the book club and Nan put my hand to
- 2:25Speaker 7: put my hand, then the the name Black Briquid, then
- 2:33Speaker 7: pat cossin habitat in the pan uh Tla Guang pro
- 2:42Speaker 7: personna and Patsy.
- 2:59Speaker 2: M hm.
- 3:44Speaker 1: There was a huge boom in social media. But while
- 3:46Speaker 1: left trade was concerned. We started seeing an increase in
- 3:53Speaker 1: the number of people that were actively participating on social
- 3:57Speaker 1: media forums. They were interested in buying and selling animals,
- 4:07Speaker 1: They were interested in asking about animals, They wanted to
- 4:10Speaker 1: know prices, and we realized that it was really becoming
- 4:14Speaker 1: quite popular. We identified fourteen Facebook groups and we spent
- 4:23Speaker 1: thirty minutes a day, just thirty minutes a day, to
- 4:26Speaker 1: figure out just what level of activity was taking place
- 4:29Speaker 1: on these fourteen Facebook groups. More than three hundred animals
- 4:45Speaker 1: were being offered for sale, and we can say that
- 4:49Speaker 1: they were being offered for sale because prices were mentioned.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Prices were specifically mentioned in at least thirty posts, and
- 5:00Speaker 1: for just these thirty animals, the community value was about
- 5:04Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty four thousand bringing at that time.
- 5:08Speaker 1: I think this really boils on to a demand and
- 5:11Speaker 1: supply issue. As long as there is going to be
- 5:14Speaker 1: a demand, the supply will consistently be there.
- 5:41Speaker 3: The Wildlife Department has got it sense for we have
- 5:48Speaker 3: been doing the best we can in trying to curb
- 5:51Speaker 3: this illegal trade h but now the illegal trainers themselves
- 6:32Speaker 3: have got very safe. They have gone into cyber space
- 6:37Speaker 3: and they are selling their products through cyberspace, and of
- 6:41Speaker 3: course with the invent of Facebook and advertisement on Internet,
- 6:46Speaker 3: they are allowed to spread the information and they are
- 6:50Speaker 3: always when they are biased.
- 6:51Speaker 9: There will be people who will.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Break the law in order to try and gain profit
- 6:57Speaker 3: by selling these animal parts and species that quite uh
- 7:01Speaker 3: spacious towards.
- 7:11Speaker 1: It's really quite sad because you hear a baby crying
- 7:16Speaker 1: and somebody's obviously sort of videoing this whole experience. The
- 7:20Speaker 1: box arrives, the box is opened, This little baby in
- 7:24Speaker 1: the box is just wailing. All you hear is a whale.
- 7:29Speaker 1: H It's about a baby animal that is stolen from
- 7:33Speaker 1: the wild. It doesn't belong in a box, doesn't belong
- 7:36Speaker 1: in a small box. It wouldn't been shipped by post.
- 7:40Speaker 1: It had no right to be in that position.
- 7:43Speaker 5: You see.
- 7:43Speaker 4: The problem is there would be there will be a
- 7:44Speaker 4: lot of uh, rich guy always say I want I
- 7:48Speaker 4: fancy this clouded leppart or something like that. Well you'll
- 7:55Speaker 4: get around like, okay, this person wants this. You'd be
- 7:58Speaker 4: surprised that most all these animals are owned by rich
- 8:02Speaker 4: people will not be able to afford because they are
- 8:04Speaker 4: are in thousands and all that.
- 8:07Speaker 10: When you look at History, it was the rich and
- 8:10Speaker 10: famous and the royalty that they used to showcase their animals,
- 8:18Speaker 10: and it was always linked with prestige status and being somebody.
- 8:26Speaker 10: If I can show that I own this animal, then
- 8:29Speaker 10: I become now a person of prestige status. Acquisition is
- 8:34Speaker 10: part of my wealth, part of my trophying right now,
- 8:38Speaker 10: the royalties and the kings and queens who then feature
- 8:42Speaker 10: these animals because everybody was curious to see these animals.
- 8:45Speaker 10: It's probably one of the early precursors of zoos, and
- 8:50Speaker 10: they used to feature these animals and people used to
- 8:52Speaker 10: come and watch and observe these animals, and people had
- 8:56Speaker 10: this process where they actually show these animals to their
- 8:59Speaker 10: friends that they publicize in the social media world, it
- 9:05Speaker 10: means I'm going to get more likes. Especially if you
- 9:08Speaker 10: have a cute, fuzzy little animal that everybody is very
- 9:13Speaker 10: excited about, You're going to get a lot of your
- 9:15Speaker 10: friends coming round to your page liking it and it
- 9:19Speaker 10: goes viral. This is one of the ways that people
- 9:22Speaker 10: are making themselves more famous by linking themselves up to
- 9:26Speaker 10: exotic animals to the buyer.
- 9:30Speaker 1: That somehow is appealing and that gets posted online. It
- 9:34Speaker 1: gets a lot of likes, it gets a lot of comments.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Of course, there are a lot of angry people who say, look,
- 9:39Speaker 1: this is not right, but clearly that's not what matters
- 9:43Speaker 1: to the buyer.
- 9:57Speaker 4: Because as a pat Into, as a hobbyous always try to,
- 10:01Speaker 4: you know, get something different, special, the interest that sparksors
- 10:05Speaker 4: do like I want this, I want that. I had
- 10:11Speaker 4: two bad shops, then eventually I was doing some exhibitions
- 10:16Speaker 4: and all that around Leisia.
- 10:21Speaker 6: I have owned numerous heads, so I mean, I mean
- 10:24Speaker 6: I have regretted selling some. They did a hit count.
- 10:46Speaker 4: They said there's probably only not more than seven hundred
- 10:49Speaker 4: or so hits left in China. And now this is
- 10:52Speaker 4: where this laser comes from, Like this is very sought
- 10:56Speaker 4: after in the European countries or in the States. Eventually,
- 11:02Speaker 4: most of the hobbies, they will go something higher and
- 11:05Speaker 4: they want something more rare because it will look cool
- 11:08Speaker 4: in the exotic community. When when I was younger, of course,
- 11:12Speaker 4: off we jump to it, just the excitement of being
- 11:14Speaker 4: able to get one. But as you grow grow up
- 11:18Speaker 4: on this hobby, then you'll realize that it's literally, uh
- 11:23Speaker 4: discertaining to see the animal just dying like that. You
- 11:25Speaker 4: know that if you don't know how you have the husbandry,
- 11:28Speaker 4: then the animal could survive. But most of the traders
- 11:37Speaker 4: are just interested in making money. They always want to
- 11:39Speaker 4: sell just to make a quick bark and that's it
- 11:41Speaker 4: and dye good, you buy back someone from me.
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- 12:38Speaker 11: Yeah yeah m hm h.
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- 13:38Speaker 12: So in Individo young Internet had the Facebook and in staff.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Social media and online platforms.
- 13:51Speaker 13: Obviously it made it really easy because now by using
- 14:00Speaker 13: this technology they can easily target the mass market. They
- 14:05Speaker 13: can publish a product and everybody can get to know
- 14:11Speaker 13: it in a split of second.
- 14:12Speaker 14: They are the young then and so then the group
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- 16:49Speaker 11: good bird plan and brook and need again the pay
- 16:54Speaker 11: and the end yes, but just need to put up
- 16:57Speaker 11: putting supply them scars surgery.
- 17:02Speaker 4: The accounts on his side probably is fake once I
- 17:05Speaker 4: mean not his name publicly to use a foreigner something like.
- 17:08Speaker 11: That posting the media associal lady padam I got can
- 17:20Speaker 11: talk like you can, then I can can kind of
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- 17:32Speaker 12: Can can some other uh a count of passu at
- 17:36Speaker 12: top on Gamba profile like gambad uh then black profile
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- 17:51Speaker 12: profile at that part to come plam bar in this
- 17:57Speaker 12: man a Probiliam Black Petukaran group, the pen Mony, the Valley,
- 18:09Speaker 12: then the supplorable account at upon Uh Young Active unand
- 18:17Speaker 12: and and at but in Traxi online on top of Opendin.
- 18:23Speaker 13: All these platforms, right uh, they do have a termine conditions.
- 18:32Speaker 13: It's said in the termine condition which you can't have
- 18:34Speaker 13: any illegal activities, okay, so this is very clear to
- 18:39Speaker 13: the public. However, obviously these people they misuse the platform
- 18:46Speaker 13: and in the same time you can communicate with them.
- 18:50Speaker 13: And all these platforms provide a facility to have a
- 18:54Speaker 13: secure and private chat, okay, and that makes it more
- 18:59Speaker 13: difficult or investigated to have access to these chats and
- 19:03Speaker 13: identified the right persons who is behind this animal trafficking.
- 19:08Speaker 13: For instance, by using encryption, you can easily make a
- 19:12Speaker 13: private chat and as you know, it's impossible to break
- 19:17Speaker 13: the encryption. The biggest challenges is data privacy and how
- 19:26Speaker 13: the platforms makes the data or makes the communication private.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Everybody's operating under the cover of behind the computers on
- 19:47Speaker 1: their phone. It's not always easy to identify where these
- 19:50Speaker 1: individuals are.
- 20:11Speaker 2: I'm studying business from to zero zero eight. I have
- 20:20Speaker 2: some big size albino iguana. It's very tame. Next one,
- 20:29Speaker 2: I recommend monkeys. This mamoset white heir mamoset. This is
- 20:39Speaker 2: Egyptian fox. This is from Sudan. This is albino the go.
- 20:50Speaker 2: I do all the legal way. I get my license
- 20:55Speaker 2: from Pahilipan. This is my important document, so export I
- 21:01Speaker 2: pot or we throw here. This is my every bill.
- 21:05Speaker 2: You see how many every bill is a lot. There's
- 21:10Speaker 2: a lot of paperwork. Feeding costs from month three thousand
- 21:26Speaker 2: to five thousand and for one year my important export
- 21:31Speaker 2: other charges is around forty thousand to fifty thousand ring
- 21:35Speaker 2: gid fit like ten thousand ring git or below ten
- 21:41Speaker 2: thousands or fifteen thousand each reptiles and each animals they
- 21:46Speaker 2: need microchips microchip we pay about ten to fifteen ring
- 21:52Speaker 2: git for each animals. We have to pay the box
- 21:58Speaker 2: chargers and hand link piece. It's about two thousand to
- 22:03Speaker 2: three thousand US dollars. Any young too, author is this
- 22:14Speaker 2: illegal or illegal?
- 22:16Speaker 5: Of course?
- 22:18Speaker 2: On kang brohand to owl, this owl, I think it's
- 22:24Speaker 2: a white face. There's no mistake which one is legal
- 22:28Speaker 2: and no legal? No legal, no legal or the owl.
- 22:33Speaker 2: No legal h congkoun slow is no legal author no
- 22:39Speaker 2: legal of this illegal. That's an applict, that's scale. It
- 22:44Speaker 2: monkey not suitable to keep. You see all the people
- 22:49Speaker 2: there catch and they try to make money. I think
- 22:57Speaker 2: this is illegal way they are coming in.
- 23:00Speaker 3: How are the illegal illegals that will.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Come in that?
- 23:03Speaker 11: You know?
- 23:04Speaker 2: The first thing is if a legal way they have
- 23:06Speaker 2: a proper box for the shipping, because this is we
- 23:13Speaker 2: can't see anything inside, so we don't know the inside
- 23:16Speaker 2: is what animal is it? So this is I'm sure
- 23:21Speaker 2: the illegal they are doing.
- 23:50Speaker 6: Mhm carousel.
- 23:54Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, like a good picture of the snakes now, yeah,
- 23:59Speaker 4: just kept sneak for sale, becaus put something to attract
- 24:04Speaker 4: people like very rare spaces, good for beginners. You can
- 24:09Speaker 4: say to give no, no hassle, don't need license, you
- 24:13Speaker 4: know something like that.
- 24:14Speaker 5: It's easy. Then you get people who.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Wants exerting patter what they will go to it probably
- 24:21Speaker 4: you know by tomorrow, so somebody might just pick it
- 24:24Speaker 4: up or anything like that. Now it's in a way
- 24:30Speaker 4: it's easy because you don't need you don't need the shop,
- 24:33Speaker 4: you won't get busted. Say so you have you can
- 24:35Speaker 4: do a lot of fake accounts and all that. There's
- 24:40Speaker 4: a lot of ways you can escape them.
- 24:43Speaker 6: The law.
- 24:57Speaker 4: The seller choir is that you have three heads our
- 24:59Speaker 4: heads before he comes. Normally the trappers are based away
- 25:04Speaker 4: from the city and so for the seller it must
- 25:08Speaker 4: be feasible for him to travel there to collect, for example,
- 25:15Speaker 4: a monkey for behind the ring it. He will probably
- 25:17Speaker 4: be selling to the buyer, the potential buyer at about
- 25:22Speaker 4: two thousand or three thousand, four hundred ringed product. He
- 25:25Speaker 4: can make so much, that's why he will take the rice,
- 25:28Speaker 4: because it's like more than ten full of the profits
- 25:31Speaker 4: and for some.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Of the illegal trade, they're really pretty expensive. The value
- 25:39Speaker 1: is equivalent to a down payment for a small house
- 25:41Speaker 1: in Malaysia. So we're not talking about ten ringgid or
- 25:44Speaker 1: twenty ring it. We're really talking about hundreds and thousands
- 25:47Speaker 1: of ringgds.
- 26:01Speaker 3: A million tiger is very specific in the sense that
- 26:03Speaker 3: he's only found in Peninsula Malaya. We are putting a
- 26:08Speaker 3: large effort in order to conserve the tigers in Malaya.
- 26:11Speaker 3: We only have more less than two undred of them.
- 26:13Speaker 3: But you know, tiger parts now is a worldwide market
- 26:17Speaker 3: and people come in here just looking for tigers in
- 26:20Speaker 3: order to put the snacks and catch them, because one
- 26:24Speaker 3: tiger can be sold for anywhere between one hundred and
- 26:27Speaker 3: fifty thousand US to two hundred thousand US, and every
- 26:30Speaker 3: part of the tigers used in order to sell and
- 26:33Speaker 3: make profit. So there are people in our jungles who
- 26:37Speaker 3: have come from Vietnam, who have come from Cambodia and Laos,
- 26:40Speaker 3: and including locals who are hunting them.
- 26:55Speaker 15: The total and confiscated ivors consists of three thousand and
- 26:58Speaker 15: six hundred ninety plograms of whole and partial tasks and
- 27:03Speaker 15: two hundred and twenty eight kilograms of semi finished products.
- 27:06Speaker 9: This task is heavy, of course, this is a bit
- 27:11Speaker 9: bit of the cast, not that very a bit, but
- 27:15Speaker 9: this is this is heavy.
- 27:20Speaker 6: This is mission.
- 27:25Speaker 7: Born trade, This canyon, this nicate, the the put the
- 27:30Speaker 7: lankya into the bay. The bill wist then apple Young
- 27:34Speaker 7: the Uh the studio.
- 27:39Speaker 5: Left m hm m hm.
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- 28:08Speaker 7: MC leading and Dada Boscal leading and Tuppy Apoca leading.
- 28:15Speaker 12: And john Ton garding Jam Young, I din't think getting
- 28:25Speaker 12: a ja, so get ya the pad Africa some other
- 28:33Speaker 12: guarding Young Uhbatang at top on the u k and
- 28:38Speaker 12: sagan to so the mask uh, the transit Bukanu and
- 28:47Speaker 12: sage transit, the hunt smaller sal China yay uh in
- 28:57Speaker 12: Young Latin Dandea. Then some are the the control of
- 29:06Speaker 12: the Africa line a top on guarding me the Malalui
- 29:15Speaker 12: Pla bohan Mesia than the dianta.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Most people were actually able to find everything, so we
- 29:29Speaker 1: have to do a better job of hiding stuff. Yeah,
- 29:31Speaker 1: maybe create more secret pockets inside. So what we're going
- 29:44Speaker 1: to show you is how smugglers commonly smuggle things on
- 29:48Speaker 1: their persons, most common when they are traveling by egg.
- 29:55Speaker 1: For example, this is an egg vest. People have been
- 29:58Speaker 1: caught trying to smuggle egg on themselves. Sometimes it's on
- 30:02Speaker 1: their body, sometimes it's strapped on their legs. Keeps them
- 30:05Speaker 1: nice and warm and doesn't set off any metal detectors,
- 30:09Speaker 1: so everything goes through quite smoothly. Sometimes you also have
- 30:13Speaker 1: these specially modified vests or jackets and hear fake of
- 30:19Speaker 1: course ivory additional pockets. You can carry pretty much anything
- 30:25Speaker 1: as long as it is not metal. It doesn't set
- 30:29Speaker 1: off metal detectors, and if you add more clothes you
- 30:32Speaker 1: get a little bit puffy. You don't set any alum
- 30:34Speaker 1: bells off and this is an example of how tortoises
- 30:41Speaker 1: are frequently smuggled and they're all tipped to prevent them
- 30:45Speaker 1: from moving. Every single one of them are alive because
- 30:50Speaker 1: it's for the pet trade. Another example birds in a bottle,
- 30:56Speaker 1: and if you go online and Google, you'll find many
- 30:59Speaker 1: many pictures birds being smuggled like this. They've got holes
- 31:03Speaker 1: let them breathe, but one of the easiest and fastest
- 31:05Speaker 1: ways to smuggle birds. And the book with a surprise
- 31:10Speaker 1: in it. Who doesn't like a book? But inside you've
- 31:18Speaker 1: got a gecko. And these are all actual examples of
- 31:24Speaker 1: how smugglers have been arrested. We are seeing a lot
- 31:27Speaker 1: of our native animals being expotted for sale elsewhere in
- 31:31Speaker 1: the world. We are also seeing non native animals coming
- 31:35Speaker 1: into the country. And so you've got these dynamics as
- 31:38Speaker 1: a sauce and as a consumer as well as a
- 31:41Speaker 1: transit country for things that aren't really targeted to local demands.
- 31:45Speaker 1: We're not saying that this is a problem here in Malaysia.
- 31:47Speaker 1: This is a global problem.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Most on the squad at night or eight hours on
- 32:41Speaker 4: the morning, definitely they have a shirttas and gonna make guns,
- 32:49Speaker 4: mostly to a triper center, because if you get a
- 32:52Speaker 4: big animal you cannot handle alone, you cannot carry it alone.
- 32:58Speaker 4: Proachase these two two type I mean for purchas. It's
- 33:01Speaker 4: like cider, for food or for the pet.
- 33:07Speaker 6: Everything is worth money. Any wildlife can be sold.
- 33:22Speaker 1: We found baby gibbons, we found baby sun bears. It's
- 33:27Speaker 1: really quite shocking. They were animals that were considered totally
- 33:32Speaker 1: protected under the Wildlife Conservation Act of Peninsula, Malaysia. A
- 33:35Speaker 1: number of these individuals are actually offering animals that you
- 33:40Speaker 1: cannot sell. The more worrying question is how not did
- 33:46Speaker 1: these individuals get these animals. The vast majority of them
- 33:50Speaker 1: were native animals, which means people were going into the forest,
- 33:53Speaker 1: they were trapping them. And what's really surprising, even more
- 33:57Speaker 1: shocking about this was that almost all of them with
- 34:00Speaker 1: juvenile animals, and particularly for mammals, it's a it's a
- 34:05Speaker 1: pretty serious problem. When you take a baby away from
- 34:08Speaker 1: its mother, from its family, you don't know how long
- 34:11Speaker 1: they will survive. Their own support system in the wild
- 34:14Speaker 1: has been essentially taken.
- 34:16Speaker 14: Away a lot one.
- 34:27Speaker 11: Mm that's about the.
- 34:38Speaker 2: Names stress.
- 34:39Speaker 16: They're fresh, they're not Mary, they're not circled. They're not
- 34:42Speaker 16: they're on your shoes.
- 34:44Speaker 11: Deepen young A lot of men good of the cro.
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- 35:15Speaker 6: Mh.
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- 35:26Speaker 2: The pibili and.
- 35:29Speaker 17: Uh stress. Fact, when the merchant to a community, can
- 35:35Speaker 17: we see coconut to thinking, then they see your behavior,
- 35:39Speaker 17: they put the normal for normal to you, I can
- 35:42Speaker 17: effect the la ka uh umb So they believe the
- 35:52Speaker 17: p and then they tumnia only they di degraated and
- 35:56Speaker 17: stain marcillam bulan. So they turn alongs from the line
- 36:00Speaker 17: laine only there so this is about company to so
- 36:03Speaker 17: they see to a disrespect there they can open and
- 36:07Speaker 17: then kit turned to bagawa tan that responded our time,
- 36:11Speaker 17: so marty soup breaking.
- 36:13Speaker 6: That monek is moving there that peace still.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Doubling as a wife say. They had no respect for
- 36:23Speaker 1: protecting species in the world. They had no respect for
- 36:26Speaker 1: law enforcement in the authorities. It was it was a
- 36:30Speaker 1: crime jury simple because they knew for a fact that
- 36:33Speaker 1: they were offering animals that they were not supposed to
- 36:35Speaker 1: offer for sale.
- 37:07Speaker 5: What is name called the.
- 37:20Speaker 7: Then that's the uh you can get the most that can,
- 37:25Speaker 7: but you you had the.
- 37:29Speaker 12: Word allowed them Jerad the lapangan the ut you can't
- 37:36Speaker 12: sager you panel young target, the path Tuppy you got
- 37:40Speaker 12: you can back and the panel and ham Gadias back
- 37:44Speaker 12: and that's back and young Bully pets apoort then bullet
- 37:50Speaker 12: Markey back, can uh grappo start stamp locally sting.
- 37:59Speaker 11: Mm hm h.
- 38:10Speaker 7: K the Jaba Nikita, the wildlife rescue center, the suka,
- 38:18Speaker 7: the man name yan Ram pass at k and a tad.
- 38:24Speaker 5: Did the back.
- 38:28Speaker 7: Simpana some by some Pimca.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Stay hi.
- 38:41Speaker 11: A little bit individual the manames primate Mama Libeta. Then
- 38:50Speaker 11: you grow so did the good out line young man
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- 38:59Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 39:07Speaker 11: The complex name involved directly the naked branding and Joel
- 39:17Speaker 11: Kitteri Star Williard and the online so the dual the
- 39:24Speaker 11: Jewels Kitts and Joe Brown and young sung massive baby
- 39:37Speaker 11: then kid my body to the buggy sue the buggy
- 39:47Speaker 11: paper symbol, exit past clad into the park and bron
- 39:55Speaker 11: mess uh Brown then you can bring then brong believe
- 40:07Speaker 11: that you can't pal young Muhami Hasanna.
- 40:20Speaker 6: You can.
- 40:24Speaker 11: Last part high wine then and you believe I can
- 40:30Speaker 11: PROMI we can and and you believe m HM and.
- 40:38Speaker 16: The people the mask then that aggressive aggress as the past,
- 40:49Speaker 16: but the pot but Indian. But you can't be like
- 40:53Speaker 16: the Masala Dora can charry do, I can hunt turns,
- 40:56Speaker 16: but not up and handle up and jager.
- 40:59Speaker 11: So mass.
- 41:03Speaker 2: Name willifants Terasa.
- 41:12Speaker 3: World worldwhilelife day, I'm declaring war against the poachers.
- 41:16Speaker 5: The time has come to stop the killing of.
- 41:18Speaker 12: The million tigers and the other one life by these
- 41:22Speaker 12: ruthless coaches.
- 41:23Speaker 3: We we have continuous programs whereby a special committee has
- 41:29Speaker 3: been set up and whatever information that we have that
- 41:33Speaker 3: we we pick up and our our our cybercrime unit
- 41:38Speaker 3: whereby they know how goods are being transferred from one
- 41:41Speaker 3: area to another. That is when we call in all
- 41:45Speaker 3: these people who are involved. So we also helped have
- 42:24Speaker 3: help from international agencies who have experiences in this and
- 42:28Speaker 3: they're also advising us.
- 42:32Speaker 12: Rap Entopo, basal Mater link up Scenarai Young Andy so
- 42:52Speaker 12: to mal Young Young Young complete and n.
- 43:02Speaker 5: And then you're giving someone a redcy uh into issue.
- 43:09Speaker 5: The what is someone that get inter the police the
- 43:15Speaker 5: boot on the ground.
- 43:23Speaker 3: That will deter them from coming in and trying to
- 43:27Speaker 3: poach our animals and from the from the forest.
- 43:40Speaker 5: Slam that work, that work casually casually then.
- 43:48Speaker 7: Began uh panas Minnesotial the maim can all they are
- 44:02Speaker 7: doably delibil associare We need to.
- 44:05Speaker 5: Change this laws and to make it.
- 44:08Speaker 3: In line with what is happening today and to have
- 44:12Speaker 3: make sure that the deterrent for those who break the law,
- 44:17Speaker 3: the punishment is equally severe and they won't attempt to
- 44:22Speaker 3: do it. So these laws are in place, are being
- 44:25Speaker 3: there and I think by twenty twenty we would see
- 44:30Speaker 3: a lot of amendments taking place as far as the
- 44:32Speaker 3: Ministry is concerned. So my message to them is we
- 44:36Speaker 3: are coming, be prepared and we have given orders what
- 44:41Speaker 3: to do, and if you're caught, you will pay heavily
- 44:44Speaker 3: for the crime that you have committed.
- 45:28Speaker 11: A game