Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / Seahawks DEFEAT 49ers to clinch NFC West & No. 1 seed in NFL Playoffs
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
- 0:18Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcasts brought to you by
- 0:21Speaker 1: my friends at Zone Pouches. Hopefully everyone is doing well.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Maybe as well as the Seattle Seahawks, who are the
- 0:30Speaker 1: number one overall seed in the NFC. Probably not as
- 0:35Speaker 1: well as the forty nine Ers who did not look good,
- 0:39Speaker 1: who got destroyed physically mentally and probably lost some players
- 0:45Speaker 1: to injuries because that's usually what happens, and are now
- 0:47Speaker 1: probably going to be the sixth seed. I'm recording this
- 0:50Speaker 1: late Saturday night. If the Rams win, Rams will be
- 0:53Speaker 1: five nine or six Seattle one. Now, the NFC West
- 0:58Speaker 1: is a little different than the other division that we
- 1:00Speaker 1: saw today, which felt kind of like a preseason game
- 1:03Speaker 1: that was that was tough to watch. So we'll talk
- 1:08Speaker 1: to the majority about the Niner Seattle game again, just
- 1:11Speaker 1: crowding achievement for Sam, John Schneider, Mike McDonald, pretty cool
- 1:20Speaker 1: moment for that franchise, and rough night for the Niners. Wow, jeez.
- 1:25Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the other game, but
- 1:27Speaker 1: not much. I got a theory that not a theory,
- 1:30Speaker 1: but a take that I think needs to get instituted.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Moving forward when it comes to under five hundred division champs.
- 1:37Speaker 1: So make sure you subscribe to the podcast, make sure
- 1:40Speaker 1: you subscribe to the YouTube, and we'll be back again
- 1:44Speaker 1: Sunday night after the almost Ravens Steeler game. Looks like
- 1:51Speaker 1: the mar Is gonna play, looks like TJ. Watt's gonna play. Exciting,
- 1:56Speaker 1: but let's just dive right into Seattle. Give them the
- 2:00Speaker 1: flowers because the Seattle Seahawks accomplished an incredible feat tonight,
- 2:06Speaker 1: becoming the number one seed. Leading up to Week one,
- 2:10Speaker 1: they were a five to one underdog to win the division.
- 2:15Speaker 1: The forty nine ers were favored. Obviously things changed throughout
- 2:17Speaker 1: the course of the season with their injuries, but still,
- 2:19Speaker 1: I mean, they have Kyle Shanahan, they got Robert Sala,
- 2:22Speaker 1: They were favored to win it. And right there with
- 2:25Speaker 1: them was the Los Angeles Rams and the Seattle Seahawks
- 2:29Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, second year coach Mike McDonald, and future
- 2:33Speaker 1: Hall of Fame general manager John Schneider are the number
- 2:37Speaker 1: one set. Right before I hopped on here, I googled,
- 2:41Speaker 1: which is essentially AI, and I said, when was the
- 2:44Speaker 1: last time Seattle hosted a playoff game? And that was
- 2:49Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. The Seattle Seahawks, who early on in Pete
- 2:54Speaker 1: Carroll's tenure, was I would say one of the best
- 2:57Speaker 1: teams in the league. Well, people forget those last several
- 3:01Speaker 1: years of Russell Wilson, even when he was playing pretty well.
- 3:04Speaker 1: They were going on the road. They have not hosted
- 3:06Speaker 1: a playoff game where it is an extremely tough place
- 3:09Speaker 1: to play. Is a massive home field advantage. One of
- 3:13Speaker 1: the really like I would say, a short list of
- 3:16Speaker 1: teams the would say have a collegiate feel in almost
- 3:19Speaker 1: a decade. And they deserved it because they dominated the
- 3:24Speaker 1: Niners tonight. They dominated him. Honestly, at half when it
- 3:29Speaker 1: was ten to three, I went, the Niners should be,
- 3:33Speaker 1: you know, doing cartwheels that this is a one score game.
- 3:37Speaker 1: The Niners had three first downs in the first half,
- 3:40Speaker 1: Seattle four xem on first downs. They almost had two
- 3:43Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense in the first half. And here's
- 3:47Speaker 1: the thing. The forty nine Ers had been playing the
- 3:48Speaker 1: last couple of weeks teams with no defense, and they
- 3:51Speaker 1: eviscerated them and tonight, and I've been saying this for
- 3:55Speaker 1: a while. Mike McDonald, if he was an offensive coach
- 3:58Speaker 1: would be one of the toe of the league. But
- 4:01Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy, and we just celebrate offense more.
- 4:06Speaker 1: We just do. I mean, the league is built and
- 4:09Speaker 1: the business is built now around offense. You are completely
- 4:13Speaker 1: screwed as a defensive player when it comes to you know,
- 4:17Speaker 1: no matter how great you are, you don't get as
- 4:19Speaker 1: much credit as the offensive guys. Obviously, from a playing
- 4:21Speaker 1: standpoint and the officiating standpoint, you're at a huge disadvantage.
- 4:26Speaker 1: And we talk a ton. I mean, obviously, Andy'd been
- 4:28Speaker 1: toasted the league for the last half decade in Kyle
- 4:32Speaker 1: and McVeigh and all the other offensive guys around the
- 4:35Speaker 1: league we talk about and I'm guilty as anybody NonStop,
- 4:38Speaker 1: but i haven't beaten the drum for this guy. He's
- 4:40Speaker 1: elite and now his record and his ability against Kyle
- 4:44Speaker 1: Shanahan kind of speaks for itself. I mean, the forty
- 4:48Speaker 1: nine ers offense is built on running the ball. I
- 4:52Speaker 1: think probably with him the last year, Jay Gruden, you know,
- 4:56Speaker 1: former NFL coach, John's brother, came on this show and
- 5:00Speaker 1: we were just bsa talking football and we talked about
- 5:03Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, that offense, and he said, from a pure
- 5:07Speaker 1: passing standpoint, that's not what they do. Like, no one
- 5:10Speaker 1: studies their offense for just drop back passing. It is
- 5:14Speaker 1: an offense going back to his father, which ironically Clint Kubiak,
- 5:19Speaker 1: who's now the offensive coordinator for Seattle, who's the son
- 5:22Speaker 1: of Gary who played for Mike Shanahan, coach for Mike Shanahan.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Kyle played for the Kubiak might as well. That family
- 5:30Speaker 1: might as well be the cousins of the Shanahan. The
- 5:33Speaker 1: entire offense is predicated on running the ball, and when
- 5:37Speaker 1: you can run the ball, you dominate in the passing
- 5:39Speaker 1: game because the majority of their passes, if your quarterback
- 5:43Speaker 1: is just competent, are layups. And then it's the NFL,
- 5:47Speaker 1: so obviously they are gonna be plays where you have
- 5:49Speaker 1: to make. But how many times to night Sam Darnold
- 5:52Speaker 1: on these boots is he just dumping it off? Because
- 5:55Speaker 1: that's the job in this offense. And when you can
- 5:58Speaker 1: run the ball, as Kubiak and see did the night
- 6:01Speaker 1: they had one hundred and eighty yards on the ground,
- 6:03Speaker 1: you removed the nine yards Sam Darnold had. Their two
- 6:06Speaker 1: running backs went for one hundred and seventy one yards.
- 6:10Speaker 1: They dominated on the ground. Meanwhile, the forty nine ers,
- 6:14Speaker 1: who you know, coming into this game, I would say
- 6:17Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's widely considered not just one of the best
- 6:19Speaker 1: running backs in the league, one of the best players.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Had eight carries for twenty three yards. They had twelve
- 6:25Speaker 1: carries for fifty three yards. If you told me the
- 6:29Speaker 1: forty nine ers are gonna have a game where they
- 6:31Speaker 1: get twelve carries and they're playing a team like Seattle,
- 6:34Speaker 1: who has a good defense, they're gonna have no chance
- 6:37Speaker 1: to win. Also, if you would have told me that
- 6:39Speaker 1: the forty nine ers would have three points, I'd be like,
- 6:42Speaker 1: I bet Purty throws a bunch of interceptions. That was
- 6:45Speaker 1: not the case, right, He obviously had the one at
- 6:48Speaker 1: the goal line where McCaffrey dropped it. But like perty
- 6:51Speaker 1: was fine, Like it wasn't Like he wasn't their problem.
- 6:55Speaker 1: They can't run the ball. When they can't run the ball,
- 6:57Speaker 1: their offense does not work. They're not built the play
- 6:59Speaker 1: life that and Mike McDonald now and like it wasn't
- 7:04Speaker 1: like he was at home last week. They played on
- 7:06Speaker 1: the road, had to fly across the country, and they
- 7:09Speaker 1: physically manhandled the forty nine ers shoved them around. It
- 7:14Speaker 1: felt like every time they tackled them, guys went backwards.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Treykeman even said it on a late run by McCaffrey,
- 7:21Speaker 1: it looks like he's running into a brick wall. He
- 7:24Speaker 1: has nowhere to go. Even if you put Barry Sanders
- 7:26Speaker 1: in there tonight, maybe he gave us a couple more
- 7:29Speaker 1: yards juking a guy out, But there was no green grass.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And the way this team was built physically from a
- 7:35Speaker 1: defensive standpoint, I mean all their DB's hit. You can't
- 7:39Speaker 1: be a physical defense in my opinion, just based off
- 7:43Speaker 1: your defensive line. Your secondary has to hit and Seattle.
- 7:49Speaker 1: The team that they are going to be remembered for
- 7:51Speaker 1: forever is the lob Seattle Seahawks, right one A super
- 7:55Speaker 1: Bowl went to another well. Part of the reason that
- 7:58Speaker 1: defense was so feared, and I think they led the
- 8:02Speaker 1: league in scoring defense four years in a row because
- 8:05Speaker 1: their secondary hit like they were Ray Lewis or Bryan Orlecker.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Obviously Earl Thomas and Camp Chancellor, but Earl Richard Sherman,
- 8:13Speaker 1: to me, is the greatest tackling cornerback I'd ever seen.
- 8:17Speaker 1: And that's the way these guys play. Now the forty
- 8:19Speaker 1: nine Ers DB's hit two. It's honestly the only reason
- 8:23Speaker 1: their defense had a shot because their defensive backs tackle,
- 8:28Speaker 1: their d line can't really do much right, and obviously
- 8:31Speaker 1: their linebackers. I mean, by the end of the game,
- 8:33Speaker 1: they're playing with guys that were free agents like three
- 8:37Speaker 1: weeks ago. But Seattle deserved to win tonight. They manhandled
- 8:41Speaker 1: this game from the jump. They went right down the
- 8:44Speaker 1: field on the first drive of the game, and honestly,
- 8:49Speaker 1: I thought Mike went for it on fourth down because
- 8:55Speaker 1: everyone's kind of been saying, right, you're too conservative, and
- 9:00Speaker 1: he's playing Kyle Shanahan, who their offense had been I
- 9:03Speaker 1: think what, scored ten touchdowns in the last two weeks,
- 9:06Speaker 1: so he's thinking like, hey, we got to score touchdowns,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and it backfired, and then I think the next couple
- 9:12Speaker 1: drives he realized, we don't need to play this way.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I need to do exactly what I've been doing, be conservative.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Because the forty nine Ers offense, best case, was gonna
- 9:22Speaker 1: get to the low teens. It was not gonna be
- 9:24Speaker 1: a game when they scored many points their defensive line.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I mean that last play of the game, technically the
- 9:31Speaker 1: last play of the game for the forty nine ers.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I thought brock Perty was murdered. He honestly, I thought, like,
- 9:36Speaker 1: how did he just shatter his entire lower body? And
- 9:39Speaker 1: all night long they beat the shit out of them.
- 9:43Speaker 1: They hit him over and over and over again. And
- 9:46Speaker 1: when they didn't hit him anyone he threw to they
- 9:50Speaker 1: destroyed and help. Kittle's a good example. Typically in a game,
- 9:56Speaker 1: George and he had five catches for thirty yards. Typically
- 10:01Speaker 1: he's more like five or six, four seventy and of
- 10:05Speaker 1: those seventy, maybe thirty or thirty five or forty or
- 10:09Speaker 1: after the catch, because he'll break a tackle, he'll run
- 10:12Speaker 1: over dB, he'll throw a linebacker to the side that
- 10:17Speaker 1: was not taking place. Tonight, Seattle showed up to just
- 10:21Speaker 1: shove the Niners around, and Mike McDonald owned Kyle Shanahan
- 10:26Speaker 1: to night. Kyle had no answers. The forty nine Ers
- 10:29Speaker 1: had one good drive ended on a freak interception, but
- 10:32Speaker 1: they had one good drive all night long, and it
- 10:37Speaker 1: was a big play by Kittle, big play by Perty's legs,
- 10:39Speaker 1: a big play by Juwan Jennings interception. Game over. It
- 10:43Speaker 1: happened that fast. It was thirteen to three, like Okay,
- 10:46Speaker 1: the forty nine Er score here, thirteen to ten, low scoring,
- 10:49Speaker 1: weird game, anything's possible. Ten minutes left in the game,
- 10:53Speaker 1: interception happened, game over happened like that, And honestly, the
- 10:58Speaker 1: Niners were extreme fortunate to be in that position. Right
- 11:02Speaker 1: Myers had missed a field goal, they had gone forward
- 11:04Speaker 1: on fourth down, you know, down deep in the red zone.
- 11:09Speaker 1: You look at the statistics. To me, the staff that
- 11:12Speaker 1: jumps out the most is they had twenty three first downs.
- 11:16Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers had nine. That is a crazy statistic.
- 11:21Speaker 1: The Niners offense had nine first downs, they only had
- 11:25Speaker 1: three in the first half. They only had six in
- 11:28Speaker 1: the second half, and four of them came on the
- 11:30Speaker 1: one fucking drive. I mean it was I mean, from
- 11:35Speaker 1: a Mike McDonald's standpoint, what was online to be the
- 11:38Speaker 1: number one overall seed like a picasso like that was
- 11:43Speaker 1: chef kiss moment on the season for him. I mean,
- 11:46Speaker 1: what a what a performance from his unit, from his
- 11:50Speaker 1: team to come on the road and listen, you know,
- 11:53Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers defense is terrible. It's it's no
- 11:56Speaker 1: one's fault. It is what it is. It's a personnel standpoint.
- 11:59Speaker 1: You argue their best defensive player is a fifth round
- 12:03Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty pound rookie slot corner. But they
- 12:07Speaker 1: still have a lot of pride. They are still extremely
- 12:09Speaker 1: well coached and to just dominate this game. And I
- 12:13Speaker 1: think we also learned this the last couple of weeks.
- 12:17Speaker 1: The forty nine ers had beat teams where they could
- 12:20Speaker 1: just outscore them. It's almost like, if you're a basketball team,
- 12:23Speaker 1: we're gonna get into games where it's like one hundred
- 12:24Speaker 1: and thirty, one hundred and twenty. We're comfortable in that environment.
- 12:27Speaker 1: But if the game gets like in the high eighties
- 12:29Speaker 1: or low nineties, which I haven't watched much NBA this year,
- 12:33Speaker 1: but I don't think that happens anymore. Back in my day,
- 12:36Speaker 1: get off my lawn moment used to happen a lot. Hell,
- 12:39Speaker 1: there used to be like NBA Finals in the seventies
- 12:41Speaker 1: and in eighties the Spurs used to do it a lot.
- 12:44Speaker 1: But are you comfortable playing in those games? Do you
- 12:46Speaker 1: have a good defense? And it turned out tonight the
- 12:49Speaker 1: forty nine ers are not comfortable playing in a low
- 12:51Speaker 1: scoring game because that means their defense gonna be on
- 12:54Speaker 1: the field and the time of possession of thirty seven
- 12:58Speaker 1: to twenty two, technically thirty eight to twenty two. If
- 13:02Speaker 1: you I'm gonna round up in Roundown. I mean that
- 13:06Speaker 1: says it all. Because Seattle Charbona and Kenneth Walker. I
- 13:11Speaker 1: guess Seattle fans are down on Kenneth Walker. I know
- 13:14Speaker 1: he can be a little hit or miss. I've always
- 13:15Speaker 1: had a soft spot for him. After his performance at
- 13:18Speaker 1: Michigan State got mel Tucker an extension before he got
- 13:21Speaker 1: caught having sexual relations with the chick. That speaks to
- 13:25Speaker 1: the team about being careful about having sexual relations. But
- 13:29Speaker 1: that's a conversation for a different day. Again, consensual a thought,
- 13:33Speaker 1: but again I don't even care. But got mil Tucker
- 13:36Speaker 1: fired for cause not ideal when he had a ninety
- 13:38Speaker 1: five million dollar contract because of Kenneth Walker. Sharbone definitely
- 13:41Speaker 1: always liked him. It was it was extremely impressive, it
- 13:46Speaker 1: really was. And let's face it, like, you know, Coach
- 13:49Speaker 1: of the Year Kyle Shanahan had a ton of momentum.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Mike McDonald just destroyed that. Like, Kyle Shanner's not winning
- 13:56Speaker 1: Coach of the Year now, He's just not And you
- 13:59Speaker 1: can be like, you can't, No, he's not winning Coach
- 14:01Speaker 1: of the Year, especially if Ben Johnson wins tomorrow and
- 14:04Speaker 1: Mike Rabel wins tomorrow and they're both the two seed,
- 14:06Speaker 1: one of those two guys are getting it, you know,
- 14:08Speaker 1: if not, they split it. But it ended at night
- 14:11Speaker 1: for Kyle Shannon. And there also was a play tonight
- 14:14Speaker 1: on a fourth down where the game was seven to
- 14:17Speaker 1: nothing and they ran a play action play that was
- 14:21Speaker 1: a shot to Kittle that they never showed the replay
- 14:25Speaker 1: on ESPN, but it was clear it was gonna be
- 14:28Speaker 1: play action. McCaffrey go to eighty five and I don't
- 14:32Speaker 1: know if the safety and the corner both ran with Kittle.
- 14:35Speaker 1: I don't know if just the safety covered and Brock
- 14:37Speaker 1: was afraid to throw a fifty to fifty ball, But
- 14:40Speaker 1: clearly the play did not work, and it was an
- 14:43Speaker 1: extremely bad play call to have one option and then
- 14:46Speaker 1: perty ends up dumping it off and it doesn't even
- 14:48Speaker 1: get close to the first down. And so many times
- 14:50Speaker 1: a night they ran plays, and this is why they
- 14:54Speaker 1: didn't have that many first downs where even if the
- 14:58Speaker 1: guy I guess against like the team like the Bears,
- 15:01Speaker 1: maybe a Juwan Jennings or DeMarcus Robinson or even a
- 15:04Speaker 1: George Kittle or us check can break a tackle and
- 15:06Speaker 1: get a first down. But you can't do that against Seattle.
- 15:08Speaker 1: They were just too good of a tackling team. Honestly,
- 15:13Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of Indiana and Miami over
- 15:17Speaker 1: the course of the last several days, how they play defense.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Not just open field tackling, but when I tackle you,
- 15:22Speaker 1: you're gonna fucking feel it. And you know, that's where
- 15:28Speaker 1: the GM gets a lot of credit for drafting those players,
- 15:32Speaker 1: for getting the right type guys. And one thing they
- 15:35Speaker 1: know is this goes back to the Lob days. They
- 15:39Speaker 1: know the type guys from a physicality standpoint, from a
- 15:42Speaker 1: mindset standpoint, that play like that, and the forty nine
- 15:45Speaker 1: ers do too. They just they're all in the boxes
- 15:48Speaker 1: because they got broken ankles or you know, broken knees.
- 15:51Speaker 1: So it was it was a masterclass tonight on defense.
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- 17:49Speaker 1: taking a lot of heat and listen. I said it
- 17:51Speaker 1: coming into this game, advantage forty nine ers at quarterback. Honestly,
- 17:56Speaker 1: I thought it was a big advantage. Sam Darnold had
- 17:59Speaker 1: a of interceptions Aikman mentioned tonight, a lot of them
- 18:03Speaker 1: come on third down led the league. And he had
- 18:06Speaker 1: six fumbles, so he has twenty overall turnovers. Now, I
- 18:09Speaker 1: texted a buddy this week, some of those fumbles, at
- 18:13Speaker 1: least that I've seen when I've been on my couch
- 18:15Speaker 1: watching football on Sundays, have been when he's getting hit
- 18:18Speaker 1: it from behind. So it's like he gets crushed for
- 18:21Speaker 1: fumble turnovers. But if I'm about to throw and someone
- 18:24Speaker 1: destroys me and the ball comes out, is that really
- 18:28Speaker 1: my fault? Or is it one of the offensive lineman's fault?
- 18:30Speaker 1: I tend to blame the offensive lineman. But who knows,
- 18:33Speaker 1: maybe quarterback coach or a coordinator or the head coach
- 18:36Speaker 1: would tell me different. But still like numbers of the numbers.
- 18:39Speaker 1: He had twenty turnovers, I thought tonight, and again he
- 18:43Speaker 1: played in a Shanahan Kubiak offense night, You'd be like, well,
- 18:46Speaker 1: who's numbers are not that great? He didn't throw for that.
- 18:49Speaker 1: That's winning football when your team is built like this
- 18:53Speaker 1: and you go twenty of twenty six. I thought he
- 18:57Speaker 1: only really made one questionable throw the entire night, and
- 19:02Speaker 1: that was late in the game. He was rolling to
- 19:04Speaker 1: his left. He throws it to Smith and Jigba. He
- 19:08Speaker 1: kind of overthrows it a little bit, but it was
- 19:11Speaker 1: so close to the sideline. Ernardo Green technically caught it
- 19:15Speaker 1: or picked it off, but he was so far out
- 19:17Speaker 1: of bounds it didn't even matter. Now at that time,
- 19:19Speaker 1: you're like, hey, man, we can't play our balls. Next
- 19:21Speaker 1: play they call a run, They're like, hey, we're not
- 19:23Speaker 1: even messing with it. But over the course of the game,
- 19:26Speaker 1: I thought precise accurate on time in command. I do
- 19:32Speaker 1: think over the course of the season, it's definitely the
- 19:34Speaker 1: second half of the season. He gets a little sped
- 19:38Speaker 1: up and he can be a little erratic. That's kind
- 19:41Speaker 1: of the knock on him going back to the end
- 19:42Speaker 1: of last year. He just gets frenetic, right, And that's
- 19:46Speaker 1: usually what that's the difference between the great quarterbacks. Always
- 19:50Speaker 1: under control, always poised, always calm, and when Sam gets
- 19:55Speaker 1: a little off kilter, like any quarterback that's not an elite,
- 19:59Speaker 1: elite all time, you can start feeling them getting frenetic.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Anyone that plays golf, when you start kind of pressing,
- 20:05Speaker 1: you start going fast, and it gets worse. No different
- 20:08Speaker 1: with the quarterback and his feet. Sat a couple of
- 20:11Speaker 1: times with perty tonight because he starts hearing footsteps. Don't
- 20:14Speaker 1: even blame him. But you can't play like that. You
- 20:17Speaker 1: have to be calm, and I thought for the most
- 20:19Speaker 1: part he was really really calm, did a great job,
- 20:22Speaker 1: took what was there, was accurate, made some really good
- 20:26Speaker 1: throws down the middle of the field, and listen. It
- 20:28Speaker 1: doesn't end the questions like I wouldn't put, you know,
- 20:35Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars on him to win playoff games. I
- 20:38Speaker 1: would still be a little nervous. But if they can
- 20:41Speaker 1: play in games where they can dictate the terms, and
- 20:43Speaker 1: if They're gonna run the ball like that. They can
- 20:46Speaker 1: win the NFC. They can run the ball like that. Now,
- 20:49Speaker 1: some of these defenses will see how the you know,
- 20:52Speaker 1: the scheduling breaks and who wins and who they end
- 20:54Speaker 1: up playing in the first round, But like that is
- 20:58Speaker 1: their formula. Run the ball, have Donald throw under thirty
- 21:03Speaker 1: times and play defense. And I think they would tell you,
- 21:07Speaker 1: if we can play games where Donald has less than
- 21:11Speaker 1: thirty attempts, we can win the Super Bowl. If we
- 21:15Speaker 1: play in a game where he's got to have forty
- 21:18Speaker 1: plus attempts, it's probably gonna be hard for us to
- 21:21Speaker 1: win that game, or just could get weird, right, And
- 21:25Speaker 1: this goes back to I'll never forgets. A buddy told
- 21:27Speaker 1: me that was with the Jets, that when SLA interviewed,
- 21:31Speaker 1: they liked Sam Darnald and they said they thought they
- 21:34Speaker 1: could win with Sam Darnald, and he was bringing Lafleur
- 21:37Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers, and the mindset was gonna
- 21:41Speaker 1: be around the offense, running the Shanahan offense, which Seattle does,
- 21:45Speaker 1: which obviously the forty nine ers do, is playing games, dominate,
- 21:49Speaker 1: running the ball, build a good defense, and have him
- 21:52Speaker 1: play where his pass attempts are between twenty five and
- 21:55Speaker 1: thirty and in those twenty five to thirty, seventy five
- 22:00Speaker 1: percent of them are gonna be relatively easy throws, as
- 22:04Speaker 1: you saw a lot of times a night, and then
- 22:06Speaker 1: they're gonna be ten to fifteen percent, or he's just
- 22:09Speaker 1: gonna have to make a play, and he did tonight.
- 22:13Speaker 1: It's why this offense is so good. When you run
- 22:16Speaker 1: the ball, now, you're not always gonna run it for
- 22:19Speaker 1: you know, four and a four point six yards of
- 22:22Speaker 1: carry and just the ease in which they did tonight.
- 22:25Speaker 1: But if you can run forty times for one hundred
- 22:27Speaker 1: and fifty yards, if you can control the clock and
- 22:30Speaker 1: you have a good defense, it's a formula that has
- 22:33Speaker 1: worked since the sixties the seventies, still works today, and
- 22:37Speaker 1: it will always work no matter how much you want
- 22:40Speaker 1: to get pass happy. And here's the other thing with Seattle, like,
- 22:44Speaker 1: there's a decent chance you get a rainy game, So
- 22:47Speaker 1: whoever you are playing, you're probably not gonna throw it
- 22:49Speaker 1: for three hundred fifty yards rain win could be cold.
- 22:53Speaker 1: The Elements play in their style of football. If I'm them,
- 22:58Speaker 1: I want it to be shitty weather. That translates that
- 23:01Speaker 1: will work now depends on who they play. If they
- 23:05Speaker 1: do get into a situation where they're down, anything's possible,
- 23:09Speaker 1: because obviously eleven is an elite player. But they do
- 23:13Speaker 1: depend a lot on you know, older Cooper cup who
- 23:16Speaker 1: made a nice catch, a nice play tonight. And they're
- 23:18Speaker 1: running backs. I mean Walker at sixteen carries Charboney at seventeen,
- 23:24Speaker 1: Walker had four catches, so he had twenty touches. Charbonay
- 23:28Speaker 1: at three, so they had forty touches with their two
- 23:31Speaker 1: running backs. Like that, that was McDonald's gonna get a
- 23:35Speaker 1: lot of credit because the defense dominated rightfully so but
- 23:39Speaker 1: Koubiak tonight that that was in front of you know,
- 23:41Speaker 1: I'm sure one of his mentors. Like I said, family
- 23:45Speaker 1: cousin essentially had to feel pretty good, had to feel
- 23:49Speaker 1: really really good. And congrats to Seattle fourteen and three
- 23:55Speaker 1: signing Sam Darnold. This offseason, let's face it pretty polarizing.
- 24:00Speaker 1: There were a lot of people, I think the analytical
- 24:02Speaker 1: community up until a couple of weeks ago, was trying
- 24:04Speaker 1: to tell everyone Geno Smith is good. Gino Smith's a
- 24:07Speaker 1: great story, resurrected his career, ended up making a bunch
- 24:11Speaker 1: of money helped Seattle get to the playoffs post Russell Wilson.
- 24:16Speaker 1: If you're trying to tell me Geno Smith is a
- 24:18Speaker 1: good player, I don't know what tell you. If you
- 24:20Speaker 1: want Geno Smith to be your starting quarterback in twenty
- 24:22Speaker 1: twenty five, Like, I don't know what to tell you
- 24:25Speaker 1: Sam Donald's dramatic upgrade. Like I watched Geno Smith play
- 24:29Speaker 1: the forty nine ers a lot look like shit every time,
- 24:33Speaker 1: I mean, terrible, terrible, and Sam donaldnight, I mean, was
- 24:39Speaker 1: in the driver's seat for that bad boy. I don't
- 24:41Speaker 1: want to say like led them, but was a big
- 24:44Speaker 1: part of it. Made some big time plays and honestly,
- 24:46Speaker 1: they could have put it on. I think everyone thought, like,
- 24:48Speaker 1: oh they're Sam. Those first couple of plays in the
- 24:50Speaker 1: red zone and the first drive of the game, which
- 24:53Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue weren't good, But over the course
- 24:56Speaker 1: of the rest of the game, I thought he was
- 24:57Speaker 1: really good. I thought he was really good and if
- 25:00Speaker 1: he plays well, this team is one hundred percent of contender.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers, like, I didn't think perty
- 25:08Speaker 1: was that bad. He was nineteen to twenty seven. A
- 25:10Speaker 1: couple of those incompletions late in the game at one
- 25:12Speaker 1: point in time, he was like nineteen to twenty five
- 25:14Speaker 1: or nineteen to twenty three. He was pretty accurate. They
- 25:18Speaker 1: didn't have the ball that often. I mean, how many
- 25:21Speaker 1: plays did they run the night they had forty two?
- 25:25Speaker 1: Seattle had twenty five more plays. The forty nine ers
- 25:30Speaker 1: ran forty two plays. They just they could never get
- 25:36Speaker 1: in the position where it's like third and one. It
- 25:38Speaker 1: always felt like it was third and four, third and five.
- 25:41Speaker 1: They're so dependent on Kendrick Bourne and DeMarcus Robinson. In
- 25:45Speaker 1: fairness to Marcus, Robinson made a couple of plays to Night,
- 25:47Speaker 1: three catches for twenty four yards. I think he had
- 25:49Speaker 1: a couple first downs. But when McCaffrey, I don't even
- 25:55Speaker 1: want to blame him, but just was not really a factory.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Night had some catches, some dump downs, but that that interception,
- 26:04Speaker 1: like that's that's one of those where you know it
- 26:07Speaker 1: goes on Purties record, But I know the ball was
- 26:09Speaker 1: tipped and a little behind him. I think he'd be
- 26:12Speaker 1: the first to tell you I have to catch that
- 26:14Speaker 1: one hundred out of one hundred times. Now you could
- 26:17Speaker 1: argue it's a little freaky when he drops it. Brooks
- 26:20Speaker 1: is right there catches it, which is a nice defensive play.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Seattle's executives all go nuts up there in the suite,
- 26:27Speaker 1: But that was a killer. I mean that that felt
- 26:30Speaker 1: like a nail in the back of the cranium. It's like,
- 26:33Speaker 1: this thing's fucking this thing's a rap. And he just
- 26:38Speaker 1: he was a guy who wasn't gonna win the MVP.
- 26:41Speaker 1: But if they were gonna win this game, they were
- 26:43Speaker 1: gonna need an MVP type performance from him. They were
- 26:45Speaker 1: gonna need him to be brilliant and dominate, break tackles,
- 26:49Speaker 1: be like superhuman. And maybe it's just because the accumulation
- 26:54Speaker 1: of the amount of carries and touches he's had this season,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and Pharnasey's had to have him, they've had to play
- 26:59Speaker 1: like they've been like. I mean, they won a game
- 27:03Speaker 1: last week forty two to thirty eight. The previous week,
- 27:06Speaker 1: Philip Rivers threw like multiple touchdowns. They scored twenty seven
- 27:10Speaker 1: the cole scored twenty seven points. I mean, their defense
- 27:14Speaker 1: is awful that they can't stop anybody. They They did
- 27:19Speaker 1: sack Dornold a couple of times, so they end the
- 27:21Speaker 1: season with twenty sacks at least the regular season, which
- 27:25Speaker 1: is gonna be last in the league. They don't gain
- 27:28Speaker 1: pressure the one time they blitz and it works. D Winners.
- 27:32Speaker 1: I thought he originally tore his achilles. I think he
- 27:36Speaker 1: just rolled his ankle really bad, but was right there.
- 27:39Speaker 1: And that's where like the blitz was perfectly called. The
- 27:43Speaker 1: offensive lineman split like the red Sea, hold right up
- 27:47Speaker 1: the gut. D Winners, who's a really good athlete, fires
- 27:51Speaker 1: right through. And you see this happen a lot, especially
- 27:54Speaker 1: with like Lamar or Kyler, the high end running quarterbacks.
- 28:00Speaker 1: They make those guys miss. But Donald's a solid athlete.
- 28:05Speaker 1: There has to be some sort of like in basketball,
- 28:08Speaker 1: when you sprint up to a guy, you don't just
- 28:11Speaker 1: run right through him. Once you get close, you kind
- 28:13Speaker 1: of shuffle your feet, you break down like D Winner,
- 28:17Speaker 1: he cannot run away from D Winners. But if D
- 28:20Speaker 1: Winner is gonna run in a vertical line full speed,
- 28:24Speaker 1: which I guess D Winner is probably like a four
- 28:26Speaker 1: to six guy, so he's hauling ass, all Seam has
- 28:28Speaker 1: to do is move over and then the D Winners
- 28:30Speaker 1: rolls his ankles probably out for the season, seem runs
- 28:33Speaker 1: for a first down. That's where obviously you see it
- 28:36Speaker 1: countless other times. But Fred Warner is the best blitzing
- 28:39Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. That is a seven or eight
- 28:43Speaker 1: yard sack. If it's Fred Warner, well it's his backup
- 28:48Speaker 1: or a backup, you know, d Winners technically like a
- 28:51Speaker 1: rotational starter, depending on who's healthy. But withfs, Donald goes
- 28:58Speaker 1: and I think you saw that constantly tonight of just
- 29:00Speaker 1: guys flying around that probably shouldn't be out there, but
- 29:02Speaker 1: you don't have a choice, and they're just not good enough.
- 29:05Speaker 1: And this is I would say, you know, in college,
- 29:09Speaker 1: next man up pre nil at places like Georgia, Bama, Texas,
- 29:14Speaker 1: Oregon and all the good schools, next man up could
- 29:16Speaker 1: be like a five star ret refreshman. So like, yeah,
- 29:19Speaker 1: we don't know who this is. Turns out as Tyron Matthew,
- 29:22Speaker 1: turns out as uh, you know, Kyle Pitts. Fuck who knows?
- 29:26Speaker 1: It could be great players. That's not the case in
- 29:28Speaker 1: the NFL. It's just not there's a huge drop off
- 29:33Speaker 1: for backups. Trent Williams is a twelve time pro bowler.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Austin Pleas has never started a game in his NFL career.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Clearly there is a drop off. Trent Williams. If I
- 29:46Speaker 1: tied his legs together, you know, probably could be fifty
- 29:49Speaker 1: percent of that guy. It's not even it's not even comparable, right,
- 29:54Speaker 1: it's not even the forty nine ers wide receiver group listen.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Ricky pearsall is is an incredible story. He got shot
- 30:03Speaker 1: at point blank, point blank range. The doctor, I think
- 30:07Speaker 1: it's Stanford Medical, said like ninety plus or maybe it
- 30:11Speaker 1: was like ninety five plus percent in that area. Die
- 30:15Speaker 1: it kills you. He lived, fought him off, refused to
- 30:18Speaker 1: give up his sub mariner. Fuck yeah, Ricky. But so
- 30:24Speaker 1: it's like there's no one disputing his toughness again, thought
- 30:28Speaker 1: off a point blank glock to the chest, not only
- 30:33Speaker 1: lived to tell about it, came back and played in
- 30:35Speaker 1: the NFL as a rookie. But this year they're very
- 30:39Speaker 1: dependent on Ricky Pierso. Why Ricky Pierso is a good player,
- 30:42Speaker 1: high end player see Seattle. If Seattle had him healthy
- 30:47Speaker 1: with Jackson Smith, their offense would be elite. Like he
- 30:51Speaker 1: is a impact player, especially in the Shanahan offense. But
- 30:56Speaker 1: he gets injured all the time. If you're removed the
- 31:00Speaker 1: gunshot situation. When he showed up the forty nine ers
- 31:03Speaker 1: he had a shoulder, He's had hamstring. He's obviously dealt
- 31:06Speaker 1: with a knee. Even the day when his injury said
- 31:08Speaker 1: knee slash ankle. I get it, Trent Freak injury running
- 31:14Speaker 1: down a guy he's not used to running full speed
- 31:17Speaker 1: hell cross the starting left tackle for the Seattle Shawks
- 31:20Speaker 1: as a hamstring. It happens, big guy, That's nothing you
- 31:24Speaker 1: can do about it. The Ricky Pearsall situation really bit
- 31:27Speaker 1: the Niners in the as tonight because you felt it offensively,
- 31:30Speaker 1: especially against that secondary where you need a little juice.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings is an excellent player. He is a winning
- 31:39Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's what I call war daddy. Listen,
- 31:42Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying when he's talking shit
- 31:43Speaker 1: to people. Some people think he's crossing the line. One
- 31:46Speaker 1: dude on the Browns called him ahoe this year. He
- 31:49Speaker 1: just said, hey, I'm just talking. Tonight, he took a
- 31:51Speaker 1: guy for a ride into the into the gatorade buckets.
- 31:55Speaker 1: He pisses people off, but he's a player. But if
- 31:59Speaker 1: you're depending on him be your number one wide receiver,
- 32:02Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard at the highest level. It
- 32:04Speaker 1: really is he's not fast enough, so you need speed
- 32:08Speaker 1: and just playmaking ability outside of him, right And they
- 32:13Speaker 1: just didn't have that tonight. And a big reason is
- 32:15Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsol. They drafted him in the first round, in
- 32:18Speaker 1: the first freaking round. Meanwhile, the first rounds players for
- 32:22Speaker 1: the other team, Like you're really feeling the North Dakota
- 32:25Speaker 1: State offensive lineman Witherspoon's hitting like he's Richard Sherman. They
- 32:29Speaker 1: were fucking laying the lumber, which I love. I mean,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I love violence in terms of watching it. I'm not
- 32:38Speaker 1: a violent individual, don't have much violence in me. I'm
- 32:41Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, but I gravitate toward violence, especially
- 32:45Speaker 1: in this sport. Love watching it. My favorite teams are violent,
- 32:49Speaker 1: physical teams. It's why, Listen, I got married in Nashville,
- 32:53Speaker 1: but I haven't spend that much time in the South.
- 32:55Speaker 1: But I've gravitated to the SEC over the past ten, twelve,
- 32:59Speaker 1: fifteen year why it's the most violent conference. I love
- 33:03Speaker 1: violent football teams, and Seattle is and when they're playing
- 33:07Speaker 1: like that, they're they're really really hard to be and
- 33:09Speaker 1: the Niners just couldn't match it. They're not built like
- 33:12Speaker 1: that right now, and they're guys. I don't know if
- 33:15Speaker 1: they were clearly McCaffrey's running empty a little bit. You know,
- 33:19Speaker 1: Kittle's just he's a badass. He's playing through an ankle injury.
- 33:23Speaker 1: They just had no juice. Perty's getting hit like he's
- 33:27Speaker 1: you know, their defensive lines Anthony Joshua, and he's Jake
- 33:32Speaker 1: Paul every play, Like Jesus, get is Brock dead? You know,
- 33:36Speaker 1: when Jake Paul got hit in the mouth and he
- 33:38Speaker 1: went down, You're like, is he gonna get up? That's
- 33:41Speaker 1: that's how I felt in the last play, like is Brock?
- 33:44Speaker 1: And then I looked at my wife, I'm like, well,
- 33:46Speaker 1: they have a game next week? Yeah, miss is it?
- 33:49Speaker 1: Mac Jones starting the playoff game? And then Brock got
- 33:52Speaker 1: up and his hands bleed and he limping off, and
- 33:55Speaker 1: like Jesus, this is one of those games where the
- 34:00Speaker 1: whole team's gonna be in the ice bat tomorrow. And
- 34:03Speaker 1: that's let's go big picture here. I don't I think
- 34:08Speaker 1: they're in trouble. I mean, there's no way around it.
- 34:12Speaker 1: They are a team not built to just rattle off
- 34:15Speaker 1: victories on the road. And if they get Philadelphia, who
- 34:20Speaker 1: you know, offense a little like Seattle. It's not great now,
- 34:23Speaker 1: you would say top to bottom, they got more impactful
- 34:26Speaker 1: players AJ Brown, Devonte Smith, Saquon Goddard, which I don't
- 34:32Speaker 1: care how hit or miss they're play calling, and Jalen
- 34:36Speaker 1: can be in the passing game. You can just score
- 34:39Speaker 1: some touchdowns on the Niners defense, and you definitely can
- 34:41Speaker 1: run it on them. But that's a tough game. And
- 34:45Speaker 1: Kettle mentioned it tonight, He's like the hard part for us.
- 34:48Speaker 1: We're a West Coast team, so if we have to
- 34:50Speaker 1: play Chicago or even farther Philly, we got a long
- 34:54Speaker 1: ass flight. And that's what a huge advantage it was
- 34:57Speaker 1: for Seattle, both their flights if they go on the
- 35:00Speaker 1: If Seattle had to go play Philly or had to
- 35:02Speaker 1: go play Carolina or Tampa, even those teams are easy,
- 35:06Speaker 1: the Rams more likely they're gonna have to play Carolina
- 35:08Speaker 1: or Tampa. It's a long ass flight. I've made. It sucks,
- 35:14Speaker 1: it takes forever, and I'm just doing something I don't
- 35:18Speaker 1: know vacation, well, I don't even know why. I haven't
- 35:20Speaker 1: necessarily made it from LA to Tampa, but I've flown
- 35:24Speaker 1: across country a bunch of times, lived in Philadelphia, flown
- 35:27Speaker 1: from Florida out to the West Coast. You're on the
- 35:30Speaker 1: plane forever. I just flew this year to before a
- 35:34Speaker 1: football season to White It was like a five hour
- 35:37Speaker 1: and twenty minute flight from Sky Harbor to Maui and
- 35:43Speaker 1: like two hour three hours in. I'm like, how much
- 35:45Speaker 1: longer do we have? You look down, it's like two hours.
- 35:48Speaker 1: I was just going there to booze and swim, not
- 35:51Speaker 1: playing a football game. So it's it's hard. That's why
- 35:53Speaker 1: it was such. That's why this game was so huge
- 35:56Speaker 1: for whoever won it because of the advantage. Clearly, you
- 35:59Speaker 1: get the buys massive, but the travel aspect of the
- 36:02Speaker 1: playoffs for these teams when the other teams that are
- 36:07Speaker 1: making the playoffs are way far away, right, So if
- 36:10Speaker 1: you're Seattle never had to leave, I mean, and your
- 36:14Speaker 1: home field advantage huge. The rest component, you know, again,
- 36:19Speaker 1: it's hard. I haven't even you have to know who
- 36:22Speaker 1: wins to even know who they're gonna play. I mean,
- 36:24Speaker 1: they could go anywhere from the Rams to you know,
- 36:27Speaker 1: who knows. Mate would have Green Bay upsets Chicago, which
- 36:29Speaker 1: I don't think is gonna happen, but if it does,
- 36:31Speaker 1: it's happened before when Green Bay upset Dallas a couple
- 36:34Speaker 1: of years ago, it doesn't even matter. They're coming to
- 36:36Speaker 1: you and they've just played more than likely a knocked in, knockdown,
- 36:40Speaker 1: drag out game. Meanwhile, the forty nine Ers, I would guess,
- 36:43Speaker 1: probably play next Sunday, probably Sunday one o'clock in Philadelphia. Again,
- 36:50Speaker 1: you want to see the matchups to kind of know,
- 36:52Speaker 1: but that that would probably be my guest right now,
- 36:55Speaker 1: because I saw Peter Schrager thinking that the Monday night
- 36:57Speaker 1: game will be whoever wins tomorrow Ravens or Steelers hosting
- 37:04Speaker 1: probably the Houston Texans. And my guess with the forty
- 37:10Speaker 1: nine Ers even either play that first game. You know,
- 37:13Speaker 1: they showed the thing tonight, Fox, CBS, Amazon. We just
- 37:17Speaker 1: don't know who has what. But there's always an NFC
- 37:20Speaker 1: game either on Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon for us,
- 37:25Speaker 1: you know, on the West coast ten o'clock or one o'clock.
- 37:28Speaker 1: I would guess Philly Niners would be one o'clock. I
- 37:32Speaker 1: don't know if the AFC would have a better game
- 37:34Speaker 1: than that, and I could see Buffalo Jacksonville at ten am. Again,
- 37:38Speaker 1: could be totally off on this that would just be
- 37:40Speaker 1: way too early, guests, But I just don't. I mean,
- 37:45Speaker 1: I think it would be a miracle right now if
- 37:47Speaker 1: the forty nine ers won to one playoff game, and
- 37:48Speaker 1: I think that'd be an incredible accomplishment. You could argue
- 37:52Speaker 1: going twelve and five and making the playoffs with that roster.
- 37:56Speaker 1: I mean, part of the reason they're twelve to five.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Forty Niners beat Seattle in Seattle, they beat the Rams
- 38:01Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Those are two of their wins and
- 38:05Speaker 1: obviously one of the craziest games they've ever had against
- 38:07Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, who've had an incredible season, and Chicago
- 38:10Speaker 1: wins tomorrow. What are they thirteen win team? I don't
- 38:15Speaker 1: want to get that wrong Chicago right now, they'd be twelve.
- 38:19Speaker 1: So they beat a thirteen win team, a fourteen win team,
- 38:23Speaker 1: and a twelve win team. So like people like, oh,
- 38:25Speaker 1: forty nineers beating nobody, No, they beat three playoff teams,
- 38:28Speaker 1: the number one seed, the number five seed, and probably
- 38:30Speaker 1: the number two seed. But the problem was tonight the
- 38:34Speaker 1: team that they played Seattle with was a lot different
- 38:36Speaker 1: than the team they played Seattle with in Seattle. In
- 38:39Speaker 1: Seattle knew it, and the coaching ability of Mike is
- 38:44Speaker 1: just top notch. I'm just that was incredible and that
- 38:49Speaker 1: shit translates it really does. I mean, they were might
- 38:52Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago to win the Super Bowl.
- 38:55Speaker 1: I put one of the biggest bets of my life
- 38:57Speaker 1: against the Chiefs against them in that AFC Championship game,
- 39:01Speaker 1: and it wasn't because of the defense. Lamar played like
- 39:05Speaker 1: shit in that game. They lost seventeen to ten. Pat
- 39:09Speaker 1: Mahomes scored seventeen points. I'm pretty sure they had fourteen
- 39:11Speaker 1: in the first half. Maybe all seventeen if I remember correctly,
- 39:15Speaker 1: but definitely fourteen. Definitely, the two touchdowns came in the
- 39:17Speaker 1: first half. So McDonald's stud no way around it. Do
- 39:22Speaker 1: I think they can win the Super Bowl. I don't
- 39:26Speaker 1: know if I'd go that far, but I think it'd
- 39:28Speaker 1: be shocking if they're not in the AFC champ or
- 39:32Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. But if it is Seattle, Chicago,
- 39:40Speaker 1: Philly and the Rams play whatever one of these shitty
- 39:44Speaker 1: teams makes the playoffs, Let's give the Rams that win,
- 39:49Speaker 1: and let's say the Bears and Philly beats the Niners,
- 39:53Speaker 1: Seattle would have to play the Rams in their first
- 39:55Speaker 1: playoff game, which would suck. I mean that's that. Yes,
- 40:00Speaker 1: I think if you're Seattle, you would actually rather play
- 40:04Speaker 1: Philly or Chicago, so you could argue getting the one
- 40:08Speaker 1: seed in a weird way for Seattle is more difficult
- 40:12Speaker 1: because I think if you're Seattle, if you're ranking your
- 40:14Speaker 1: opponents that you would want to play in your first
- 40:18Speaker 1: play NFC championship game, you obviously play whoever, but your
- 40:21Speaker 1: first playoff game in the divisional round and you have
- 40:24Speaker 1: to play the Rams. Like, I think, we just pulled
- 40:27Speaker 1: a bunch of gms and pulled a bunch of NFL people.
- 40:31Speaker 1: How would you rank the top four teams in the NFC,
- 40:33Speaker 1: because now you've got to drop the Niners out of
- 40:35Speaker 1: it based on their defensive performance the last several weeks.
- 40:38Speaker 1: It just sucks. You know, you would definitely have Seattle
- 40:43Speaker 1: on the Rams would be one two. Some people might
- 40:45Speaker 1: even be like, hey, if the Rams s need has
- 40:46Speaker 1: figured out, tomorrow'll get a little momentum in that first
- 40:48Speaker 1: weekend that they're gonna be tough. Philly. I mean they
- 40:53Speaker 1: go three and out, feels like every other drive. They
- 40:55Speaker 1: had seventeen yards in the second half last week Chicago
- 41:00Speaker 1: defense is basically the forty nine ers. I've been saying
- 41:03Speaker 1: this forever. I don't watch high school football, but I'm
- 41:06Speaker 1: gonna stick with this. At the highest levels of a
- 41:08Speaker 1: high school, maybe high school's a little different. Definitely college
- 41:12Speaker 1: and clearly the pros. You could not win big if
- 41:14Speaker 1: you do not play defense. It is impossible. There is
- 41:18Speaker 1: no If I read one more article about Cliff Kingsbury
- 41:22Speaker 1: becoming a head coach, I'm gonna throw up in my mouth. Hey,
- 41:25Speaker 1: do these people not watch football? Is this an agent
- 41:29Speaker 1: driven story? What are we talking about head coach in
- 41:33Speaker 1: the NFL? What Cliff Kingsbury? Do you guys just witness
- 41:37Speaker 1: what happened and part of the dysfunction in Arizona in
- 41:41Speaker 1: terms of his accountability and toughness, which translates to defense.
- 41:45Speaker 1: It's kind of like a shittier version of Lincoln Riley.
- 41:48Speaker 1: That does not work. What's winning in college football right now?
- 41:52Speaker 1: Indiana destroying people on defense, Oregon dominating the defensive side
- 41:57Speaker 1: of the ball, Miami crushing people. Ole Miss has got
- 42:02Speaker 1: the little D. Two guys make it sweet plays. Obviously,
- 42:05Speaker 1: in the NFL, defense matters a lot pass rush, dB play, physicality,
- 42:11Speaker 1: obviously your schemes within that and if this like the
- 42:15Speaker 1: Bears and their fans will be the first to tell you,
- 42:17Speaker 1: like your defense is the same as the Niners. Maybe
- 42:21Speaker 1: got one or two bigger names on that side of
- 42:23Speaker 1: the ball, but that that does not work to why
- 42:26Speaker 1: the Niners. I think every forty nine Er fan be
- 42:28Speaker 1: the first to admit we have no shot in the playoffs,
- 42:31Speaker 1: none to make a run. Could you win an individual game?
- 42:34Speaker 1: Could the forty nine Ers beat the Eagles in a
- 42:36Speaker 1: one off situation? Games are weird. You saw to night
- 42:40Speaker 1: Seattle's kicking their ass and it was ten to three
- 42:43Speaker 1: at half, Like, how's this possible? Niners aid three first down?
- 42:46Speaker 1: That's football, and the forty nine Ers at one point
- 42:48Speaker 1: in time where a fumbled ball, if Cleveland Ferrell drops
- 42:52Speaker 1: falls on it, who knows, all of a sudden they
- 42:55Speaker 1: score tight game, it was ten point swing. Football is
- 43:01Speaker 1: weird that way, right in an individual game, you could
- 43:05Speaker 1: be a better team. I think you could pull one
- 43:07Speaker 1: hundred people that watch tonight and one hundred people would
- 43:10Speaker 1: say Seattle was the better team tonight. Yet at one
- 43:13Speaker 1: point time through in the third quarter, it's ten to three,
- 43:19Speaker 1: and that's the thing about playoff games. I watched a
- 43:22Speaker 1: lot of I went to a lot of Warriors in
- 43:24Speaker 1: their heyday playoff games. You can lose random games in
- 43:28Speaker 1: series all the time. It happens in baseball all the time.
- 43:32Speaker 1: It does not matter in basketball, it definitely doesn't matter. Like, oh,
- 43:36Speaker 1: it just got blown out in Game three, Okay, two
- 43:38Speaker 1: to one. Who cares? In football, you have one bad half,
- 43:42Speaker 1: you make two bad plays, the playoffs can be over.
- 43:47Speaker 1: The other team makes one great play, some crazy ass
- 43:50Speaker 1: kickoff return or some crazy ass mistackle touchdown. All of
- 43:55Speaker 1: a sudden, It's like I thought we were better than them,
- 43:58Speaker 1: and we're down twenty to ten and the third quarter.
- 44:01Speaker 1: That's what's so fun about the playoffs. But man, what
- 44:05Speaker 1: a night. Credible accomplishment by Seattle truly is, like I said,
- 44:11Speaker 1: crowding achievement for John Schneider, let's face it. I mean,
- 44:15Speaker 1: there's Diana's article today. It's like, clearly the Raiders would
- 44:19Speaker 1: like Pete to just retire. Okay, man, we'll pay you
- 44:22Speaker 1: the contract. We don't want to quote unquote fire you,
- 44:25Speaker 1: but just just retire. You're seventy five. You refused away
- 44:28Speaker 1: the white flag. You were the only guy we could
- 44:31Speaker 1: hire because there were no other options. You're gonna get fired.
- 44:34Speaker 1: But if you just announce you're retired, easier to go
- 44:36Speaker 1: that way. Jee Sneider won that big time because once
- 44:43Speaker 1: Pete's gone, he's hired Mike McDonald. Two years later, they're
- 44:46Speaker 1: the number one seed in the NFC, and that's against
- 44:50Speaker 1: the team with you know, I don't know how much
- 44:52Speaker 1: the Eagles are spending on their team, but it's a
- 44:54Speaker 1: shitload of money, you know, the Rams. I mean, we're
- 44:59Speaker 1: beating them by sixteen points in the fourth quarter. Three
- 45:02Speaker 1: weeks ago. Seattle came back, beats Carolina, beats the Niners,
- 45:08Speaker 1: boom home playoff games. That's how fast it's That's how
- 45:12Speaker 1: fast it shifted. That's the crazy part about Seattle season
- 45:16Speaker 1: is at that game, when they're down sixteen points, Darnold
- 45:22Speaker 1: looks like crap, like yeah, man, make the playoffs. Good season,
- 45:29Speaker 1: and then it flipped she he'd scored that touchdown. They've
- 45:31Speaker 1: honestly never really looked back since that moment. I know
- 45:34Speaker 1: it's technically three to three last week in Carolina, but
- 45:36Speaker 1: Carolina sucks. My main takeaway from that game, and I've
- 45:53Speaker 1: thought this for a while and I've never ever believed
- 45:56Speaker 1: this more strongly that if you go eight and and
- 46:01Speaker 1: win a division one, that shows your division sucks. If
- 46:05Speaker 1: you go eight to nine and win the division, think
- 46:08Speaker 1: about what it took for Seattle to win the division.
- 46:11Speaker 1: They'd win fourteen games. They're gonna have two other They're
- 46:15Speaker 1: gonna have a thirteen win team and a twelve win
- 46:17Speaker 1: team in their own division relative to this other division
- 46:21Speaker 1: with three eight to nine teams. Potentially, if Atlanta wins,
- 46:24Speaker 1: Atlanta's rattling off some late victories. Obviously the Saints rattled
- 46:29Speaker 1: off some late victories as well, but that division has
- 46:32Speaker 1: been terrible. It really is. Even if things went better
- 46:36Speaker 1: for either Tampa or Atlanta, what are they ten win teams.
- 46:39Speaker 1: You're clearly talking about the worst division winner in the conference.
- 46:45Speaker 1: But if you go eight to nine or worse, if
- 46:50Speaker 1: who knows, you could have a year maybe seven to ten.
- 46:52Speaker 1: If it goes really shitty, you should not be able
- 46:56Speaker 1: to host a playoff game. You should give up that right.
- 46:59Speaker 1: I'm okay with Hey, you win the division, you're automatically
- 47:01Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but if you go under five hundred
- 47:06Speaker 1: to win the division, you should then be stacked with
- 47:09Speaker 1: the playoff teams, which every single time would be seventh.
- 47:12Speaker 1: That's how I would do it. So it's not like, oh,
- 47:15Speaker 1: you get to play the four to five, No, you
- 47:17Speaker 1: go to the seventh seed. I think that would be fair.
- 47:22Speaker 1: I could live with Okay, they're just they play the
- 47:25Speaker 1: four or five game, but it goes to whoever they're
- 47:28Speaker 1: playing against the home game. I'd be cool with that.
- 47:30Speaker 1: But I honestly think you should be slotted in the
- 47:32Speaker 1: seventh seed. You could make a whole other argument, like
- 47:35Speaker 1: if you go under five hundred, should you even make
- 47:37Speaker 1: the playoffs? We could make that argument if you wanted.
- 47:40Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue against that person. But under no circumstances,
- 47:45Speaker 1: should one of those two teams that we witness playing
- 47:48Speaker 1: today get to host a playoff game next week. That
- 47:52Speaker 1: is an embarrassment toward the National Football League, It truly is.
- 47:57Speaker 1: I like Jason light I think he's an excellent GM.
- 48:00Speaker 1: I know they've had a weird season, they've had some injuries.
- 48:03Speaker 1: His coach isn't great. Clearly, you know, decent chance if
- 48:07Speaker 1: Atlanta wins tomorrow that I think Todd Bowles gets fired again.
- 48:12Speaker 1: I don't know Todd well, but I worked with him.
- 48:14Speaker 1: Whenever I seen him at the Combine, I've always I've
- 48:16Speaker 1: always liked him. He's always been really nice to me.
- 48:19Speaker 1: But he's been atrocious this year. Their whole team has
- 48:22Speaker 1: been really atrocious this year. And this is not shade
- 48:25Speaker 1: because of the division, though that division does feel like
- 48:30Speaker 1: the least interesting division in all of football. That game
- 48:36Speaker 1: today had preseason vibes. It honestly did. It had vibes
- 48:41Speaker 1: in the preseason when you're watching like Miami or Philly
- 48:44Speaker 1: or some of these East Coast teams that you know
- 48:46Speaker 1: play in these humid cities that starts pouring rain and
- 48:50Speaker 1: the starters are playing, you know, late in the first
- 48:53Speaker 1: quarter or the second quarter, like oh this, and you're
- 48:55Speaker 1: just starved. You're just like a crack addict looking for
- 48:58Speaker 1: a hit. So you're just sitting on your couch, like
- 49:00Speaker 1: mid August. You're like, hell, yeah, Baker Mayfield's on the field,
- 49:04Speaker 1: Mike Evans beat a bell, but it's still a preseason game.
- 49:09Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you look up, you
- 49:11Speaker 1: go get a snack, and all the backups are in.
- 49:12Speaker 1: You're like, this is bad, honey, you want to go
- 49:14Speaker 1: watch a movie. I actually just watched the movie last
- 49:17Speaker 1: night called A Roof Man, pretty good flick. Channing Tatum.
- 49:21Speaker 1: He a true story this, I guess. Guy broke into
- 49:25Speaker 1: a bunch of McDonald's from the roof, got caught, broke
- 49:27Speaker 1: out of jail, lived at a toy z r Us
- 49:31Speaker 1: for like six months, started dating a girl. I really
- 49:36Speaker 1: enjoyed the movie. Channon Tatum kind of underrated actor. That
- 49:42Speaker 1: game the Day had preseason vibes. It truly did. And
- 49:46Speaker 1: given that no matter who, I guess, if Carolina won
- 49:48Speaker 1: the game, they would have won the division. But it
- 49:50Speaker 1: never crossed my mind Carolina was gonna win that game.
- 49:53Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for a last drive by Carolina
- 49:58Speaker 1: that they scored a touchdown, so they game looks closer
- 50:01Speaker 1: than it actually was. I thought Tampa was clearly the
- 50:04Speaker 1: better team. I'm not a Bryce young guy. It's pretty
- 50:08Speaker 1: clear for me, like and I was coming out of college,
- 50:12Speaker 1: so I'm not acting like I've never liked him. I
- 50:14Speaker 1: loved him at Alabama. I'd followed his career like in
- 50:17Speaker 1: high school because a huge recruit. I was rooting for him.
- 50:23Speaker 1: But at this point time he's not good enough. You'd
- 50:25Speaker 1: be like, well, his numbers are. I don't know, man,
- 50:27Speaker 1: I don't see it. I know he made some throws.
- 50:30Speaker 1: He No one throws an out route interception like Bryce Young.
- 50:34Speaker 1: I don't know if it's he can't see. I don't
- 50:36Speaker 1: know if it's timing's always off. But he throws one
- 50:39Speaker 1: of the easier out route picks. I mean, for any
- 50:44Speaker 1: guy that consistently starts typically the guy that throws that
- 50:47Speaker 1: pick all the time is a guy that doesn't start
- 50:49Speaker 1: very long. I think Bryce Young is just average as
- 50:55Speaker 1: the day is long, and that feels kind like I
- 50:58Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option. I don't even think
- 51:00Speaker 1: an option. Yeah, I mean obviously canalis not sure how
- 51:09Speaker 1: dynamic he is. Hard to judge a little with his quarterback.
- 51:13Speaker 1: But the flea flicker in the rain when a running back,
- 51:19Speaker 1: if you just think about it, the field's clearly slippery.
- 51:22Speaker 1: It had been pouring rain in Tampa. A flea flicker
- 51:26Speaker 1: takes two or three whatever is coached up hard steps
- 51:30Speaker 1: selling the run. Then you have to stop, pivot flip back.
- 51:37Speaker 1: As Dowdell went to flip it back, he is parallel
- 51:41Speaker 1: to the ground. It's almost like a movie scene when
- 51:43Speaker 1: a guy, you know, I was We watched home alone
- 51:46Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. They slip on the ice
- 51:48Speaker 1: and they're parallel to the ground. That's what he looked like, Gus,
- 51:51Speaker 1: He's been in the ground, and it's just how do
- 51:54Speaker 1: you call that play? And then I watched his answer
- 51:57Speaker 1: about why he called that play after the game, and
- 52:00Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, we like to play. And even Orlowsky
- 52:03Speaker 1: on the broadcast was like, they never showed a replay
- 52:06Speaker 1: down the field, and I don't think anyone was open.
- 52:11Speaker 1: There was not There was like one grout being run.
- 52:14Speaker 1: There wasn't even a someone to dump it off to.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Who what kind of play call is that? You know?
- 52:20Speaker 1: Baker threw a bad pick. It was just an awful,
- 52:23Speaker 1: awful game. I don't really know what to say. I
- 52:27Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time talking about it
- 52:29Speaker 1: because I do think that Atlanta is gonna win and
- 52:32Speaker 1: Carolina is going to be in the playoffs, which is
- 52:34Speaker 1: truly shameful. I mean it truly is. And I believe
- 52:39Speaker 1: this core of my soul in no functioning society. Should
- 52:47Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers at eight to nine, the team that
- 52:50Speaker 1: we've witnessed, I mean, they got work yet last week
- 52:52Speaker 1: in the second half Bryce through fifty four yards against
- 52:55Speaker 1: Seattle today they are down whatever or nine points late
- 53:01Speaker 1: in the game, and they're gonna host a playoff game
- 53:05Speaker 1: because Bijon Robinson to Margo's for one hundred and seventy yards.
- 53:09Speaker 1: What are we doing? Come on, Roger, we gotta be better.
- 53:13Speaker 1: This can't be tolerated, but it will. They'll host a
- 53:16Speaker 1: game and hopefully the Rams kick their ass and we
- 53:19Speaker 1: move on. If you tell me that it's Rams Carolina,
- 53:23Speaker 1: my guess would be decent chance that's the first playoff game.
- 53:26Speaker 1: That's Saturday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, and then that would be
- 53:32Speaker 1: a lucky break for McVeigh because he'd probably get it
- 53:35Speaker 1: rolling a little bit tomorrow against Arizona, who's just an
- 53:37Speaker 1: atrocious football team with a million injuries. They're they're terrible.
- 53:41Speaker 1: I think they've lost by twenty and I was listened
- 53:44Speaker 1: to some local television show like five to the Last
- 53:45Speaker 1: seven Games or something that they are bad. And then
- 53:49Speaker 1: you get Carolina, you might get some momentum. And again,
- 53:52Speaker 1: like I said, if Seattle draws the Rams as their
- 53:55Speaker 1: first playoff game since twenty seventeen in Seattle, that's just
- 53:59Speaker 1: tough draw. It really is. I think if you let
- 54:02Speaker 1: John Schneider and Mike McDonald pick, they would one pick
- 54:08Speaker 1: Philly or obviously San Francisco or the Bears over the Rams.
- 54:13Speaker 1: But that will be a fantastic, you know, week two
- 54:16Speaker 1: playoff game. But that's the way it shakes out. Other
- 54:18Speaker 1: than that, we've gone got a little longer, I thought,
- 54:21Speaker 1: But I was it's a big night. I mean, there
- 54:24Speaker 1: was a lot on the line. Learned a lot. Seattle's
- 54:26Speaker 1: a one seed, Nighters are in trouble, and I guess
- 54:31Speaker 1: we had to. I actually didn't. I turned the game on.
- 54:34Speaker 1: I was a little late to the game playing golf,
- 54:37Speaker 1: which was way more fun than watching the morning game.
- 54:40Speaker 1: And it was seven to nothing, and I was like,
- 54:41Speaker 1: what this sucks. I don't even want to do this.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Is there is there a Bowl game on? It's like,
- 54:46Speaker 1: I guess I kind of have to do this for
- 54:47Speaker 1: my job kind of. I'm just I was like, this
- 54:50Speaker 1: is awful. What a what an awful game? At least
- 54:55Speaker 1: we had the night game, which I know is low scoring,
- 54:57Speaker 1: but it was fun. Audios, have a great night, and
- 55:01Speaker 1: UH see you tomorrow. The volume m HM