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124 TERRIFIED Hunter’s 1989 Dogman Encounter | “I Couldn’t Tell Anyone What I Saw” · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like
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  Speaker 3: the ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 4: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 4: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: I rubbed my corn, I of my truck, I jump
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  Speaker 2: out the truck truck, and that's what I knew it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was just golf mare. There would be a real
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  Speaker 3: low guttural brown. One more step and he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be in clear view.
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  Speaker 2: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 3: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 3: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, everybody. This is episode one
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  Speaker 3: and twenty four with mister Larry Latrelle. He is the
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  Speaker 3: co host of the Crypted Wrangular podcast and when I
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  Speaker 3: was on his show, he started telling me about his
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  Speaker 3: encounter with one of these dogmen in nineteen eighty nine
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  Speaker 3: at a new hunting location. And I was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's not do this here, man, why don't you come
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  Speaker 3: on my podcast, THEAH Jupiter here And he was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh sure, and he gracefully, gratefully accepted my offer and
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  Speaker 3: he came on in the outlined you know, he was
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  Speaker 3: going to a new hunting area in the first morning there.
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  Speaker 3: And uh yeah, it's it's an incredible, you know, experience.
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  Speaker 3: And thanks Larry for coming on. I really appreciate that
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  Speaker 3: you did that, my friend. If you guys keep coming
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  Speaker 3: back to the IA Jupiter. First of all, thank you
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  Speaker 3: you can also contact me at the IA Jupiter Podcast
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  Speaker 3: at gmail dot com if you want to tell me
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  Speaker 3: about your experiences. If you are, you know, a researcher, paranormal,
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  Speaker 3: cryptis UFOs, anything of that nature, anything you won't find
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  Speaker 3: in the mainstream media. I'll be waiting for your correspondence. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 3: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode with mister Larry Littrell. Hello, sir,
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  Speaker 3: how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine?
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  Speaker 3: Can't confine a little bit of a lag, that's always fun.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of a lag, that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, man, So how's it been. It's been the
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  Speaker 3: way two three weeks since I seen you. How you
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  Speaker 3: been doing?
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  Speaker 2: Not doing bad at all? Really. The weather's changed a
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  Speaker 2: little one from warm to like rainy and chili the
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  Speaker 2: last three or four days. But it'll warm up. It's spread.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Here it's going from hot to hotter. So we're
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  Speaker 3: about ninety and then we're up about one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: four right now, so I am sweating even I'm an
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  Speaker 3: air conditioning but yeah, dude, you know I'm down here
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  Speaker 3: in Mexico. You know it is, Uh, Larry, please do
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  Speaker 3: me favor. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself and
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  Speaker 3: where they can find you.
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  Speaker 2: A little bout myself from where they can find me, Yes, sir, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Larry let your arm from Indiana. Uh. I've been
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  Speaker 2: into cryptids for a while now, and like I said,
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  Speaker 2: like Tom said, we have a page called the Cryptid Wranglers,
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  Speaker 2: several other groups with the uh same title. Pretty much
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  Speaker 2: that's about it. Really. I'm a retired pipe fitter.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really in a warehouse for a long time. So
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  Speaker 3: were you? Well? Yeah, me too, buddy. Yeah, I threaded
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  Speaker 3: a lot of pipe t you did pike threading. Okay, shit,
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  Speaker 3: it fair enough, buddy. All right man. You started to
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  Speaker 3: tell me on the Crypti Wranglers podcast. You can, guys
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  Speaker 3: go check it out over on YouTube links and description below.
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  Speaker 3: You started on the show's kind of telling me about
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  Speaker 3: your experiences. I don't want to know about it, Larry.
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  Speaker 3: I want to hear firsthand on the I of Jupiter.
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  Speaker 3: So where did this all start for you? What happened
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  Speaker 3: to you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, me and a friend had gained permission to hunt
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  Speaker 2: from ground is a probably about i'd say thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: forty miles from where we originally hunt, but the ground
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  Speaker 2: had never been hunted I hadn't been hunted in years.
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  Speaker 2: We knew that there'd be a lot of animals there now,
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  Speaker 2: so we gained permission. At the time, I was working
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  Speaker 2: six seven days a week in a distribution center warehouse.
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  Speaker 2: I was a boss. I didn't have much time to
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  Speaker 2: scout there. So he went in scouted at hung stands.
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  Speaker 2: And then the fall of November, the opening weekend of firearms,
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  Speaker 2: we went to hunt. We pull up to the gate
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  Speaker 2: and there's deer standing up at the gate. What that
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  Speaker 2: that's odd. There's several deer just standing there at the gate. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we got out of the vehicle and shut o doors
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  Speaker 2: and then you hurt the deer running off, and we
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  Speaker 2: gathered all our gear and went through the fence and
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  Speaker 2: started heading through the woods. It's about a hour before dark.
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  Speaker 2: We don't when we go through the woods, we don't
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  Speaker 2: use a flashlight or nothing like that spooks game. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we get we get to where we're going, and he's
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  Speaker 2: got to go right by my stand to get to his,
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  Speaker 2: and I get at my standing. I'm just waiting for daylight. Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you know, when you're out in the woods in
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  Speaker 2: it's daylight, right at daylight, you got all your birds
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  Speaker 2: moving around, chirping and other stuff moving around in the woods. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it all just went dead quiet. Anyway, everything got quiet,
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  Speaker 2: and I looked off to my left and I've seen
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  Speaker 2: movement out of the corner of my eye coming down
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  Speaker 2: the same trail we'd walked down, about fifty sixty yards away,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, man, that's a massive dog. And about
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  Speaker 2: that time, when it got towards god say, twenty feet
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  Speaker 2: from the tree, it started to rise, and I was like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: now put it. It took a few steps forward, and
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  Speaker 2: it wrapped his hand around the tree, and his fingers
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  Speaker 2: and hands was so massive the tips of his finger
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  Speaker 2: almost touched this part of its hand being wrapped around
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  Speaker 2: the tree. Okay, and I'm I'm standing there, and I
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  Speaker 2: went from wow, scared. And its eyes were glowing like
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  Speaker 2: there's a flashlight behind it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You could see, I mean you could see just about
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  Speaker 2: every detail. You could see its mouth and muzzle, teeth,
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  Speaker 2: like the teeth for so long they were pointing out
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  Speaker 2: of his mouth. And I just sat there and it
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  Speaker 2: just freaked me out. For a little bit. I froze
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  Speaker 2: and I was watching it, and I knew not to
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  Speaker 2: look at dead and eyes. When you're a hunter, you
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  Speaker 2: don't look at your preying eyes. And I was told
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  Speaker 2: that you don't look a predator in the eyes, so
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  Speaker 2: I didn't look at it deadened eye, but it glanced
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  Speaker 2: over towards me. But I don't think they ever saw me. Sorry, Tom, Okay, no,
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  Speaker 2: no worries.
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  Speaker 3: Man. It's a hell of a thing to admit. I
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  Speaker 3: think you were telling me this happened back in eighty nine.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, And I.
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  Speaker 2: Still get trembled in my voice when I think about it, and.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell then yeah, fuck dude. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I stay there and watching it the counter.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed like it lasts forever, but probably only lasted
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  Speaker 2: about thirty five forty seconds, maybe a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't looking at my watch or nothing,
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  Speaker 2: but I was standing there scared, and I thought to myself, Larry,
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  Speaker 2: why are you so scared? You got a shotgun and
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  Speaker 2: a handgun on your side. But I mean, the thought
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  Speaker 2: of shooting it never crossed my mind at all. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, it stood there and I watched it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit longer, and then it dropped down the all
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  Speaker 2: fours and took off across Cornfield and uh that Cornfield.
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  Speaker 2: It probably takes me here or you five minutes across,
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  Speaker 2: and that did it in seconds. I mean it's so
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  Speaker 2: fast it's unbare. And but yeah, ever since that day,
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  Speaker 2: I just I can be out my garden working and
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  Speaker 2: the woods. I got the woods back behind the house,
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  Speaker 2: just right down the road. I live in a little
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  Speaker 2: small town mhm, but it's probably maybe half a city
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  Speaker 2: block away. I can be out in my garden and
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  Speaker 2: just feel like I'm being watched sometime, or Philip's presence, it's.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's still kind of like following you. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: after all these years or at least whatever that is
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  Speaker 3: that the.
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  Speaker 2: Americans one that you have become more whatever?
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, do you happen to know? Can
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  Speaker 3: you remember, Larry, if it's possible, what like how tall
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  Speaker 3: it was maybe or maybe? Oh yeah, her color seven
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  Speaker 3: and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Eight feet tall, seven and a half to eight feet
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  Speaker 2: doll because where it put in his hand there like
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  Speaker 2: a knot there and it I'm six foot and there's
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  Speaker 2: probably a good foot or more over my head and
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  Speaker 2: then you make up for is the height of its head.
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  Speaker 2: Its head was massive. I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and back in nineteen eighty nine, there wasn't many
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  Speaker 3: people talking about that. So so what did you do?
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  Speaker 3: So it ran across that cornfield like it? He split,
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  Speaker 3: what did you do? Did you wait for a while
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  Speaker 3: or did you just like hotel out of there?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my friend I.
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  Speaker 2: Waited for my buddy the time. Like I said, he
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  Speaker 2: walked right by my stand to get to his, and
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  Speaker 2: in the same we walked back and I told him
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  Speaker 2: what us all? And I said, I ain't never coming
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  Speaker 2: back here. I said, you can hunt if you want to,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not. And he believed me. But he said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to let something like that. He said,
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  Speaker 2: you've probably just seen that, you know, something that scared you,
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  Speaker 2: and you said I'm not going to let nothing like
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  Speaker 2: that keep me from out. And I said, well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not coming here now. And I got other places. So
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  Speaker 2: I never went back to that area ever.
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  Speaker 3: So you've been able to actually go back hunting in
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  Speaker 3: other areas, just never that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I never went. I never went. It was
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  Speaker 2: like deciding that was a knife. But now I said
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  Speaker 2: that it's a longer drive to get there. I can
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  Speaker 2: have closer home and no, but no, I never went.
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  Speaker 3: Back at all. Yeah, I've spoken. I've spoken to people
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  Speaker 3: who've seen dog Man. I've spoken to people who've seen Bigfoot,
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  Speaker 3: many many people. And there's people who hunted their whole lives.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, forty five year old gentleman was
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  Speaker 3: in Bankhead Forest and Alabama's seen a big Foot and
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't been able to go back into the forest again.
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  Speaker 3: This is people's lives with the people you know watching
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  Speaker 3: this outside of America or the you know, the North
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  Speaker 3: America don't realize the how much of a cult the
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  Speaker 3: culture is for us. You know, people in Europe or
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  Speaker 3: in Australia that might be seeing this, they don't realize
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  Speaker 3: this is like part of our DNA to go and
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  Speaker 3: hunt and fish the American wilderness. And for you to
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  Speaker 3: be able to go back in there, how was there
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  Speaker 3: a process for you doing that? You have to kind
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  Speaker 3: of sit alone for a while. Did you skip the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the season or were you able to go
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  Speaker 3: out the next weekend? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Hum. I know I didn't go back for about a
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  Speaker 2: week or so. I used work for excuse, and when
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  Speaker 2: I went back, I went hunting with my family, so
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  Speaker 2: I felt a little safe for.
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  Speaker 3: That way, I feel okay, man, because we died, so
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  Speaker 3: that sparked your interest in this. So back in ninety nine,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of resources were available to you? Who? Who
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  Speaker 3: could you even talk to about this?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody? Really, I didn't that me and my buddy was
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  Speaker 2: the only person I ever told For twenty some years,
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  Speaker 2: almost thirty, I kept that to myself. Damn, I'm gohead,
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  Speaker 2: tell nobody because I didn't want to get laughed or
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  Speaker 2: made fun of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course, Man, I really feel it, dude,
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  Speaker 3: that's some that's some. That's some horseshit, dude. I mean, like, so,
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  Speaker 3: what happened? Did you just start, like, you know, in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the twenty teens, start like going online
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  Speaker 3: and or did you start like finding videos or what
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  Speaker 3: got you to be able to talk about it?
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  Speaker 2: I started researching some stuff and then I ran across
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  Speaker 2: uh Daniels group and uh uh uh you know, answered
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  Speaker 2: the questions, agreed to the rules, became a member, and
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  Speaker 2: Daniel welcomed me. And Daniel always goes out of his
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  Speaker 2: way urging people to share their encounters and no, because
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  Speaker 2: that can.
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  Speaker 3: Make you feel comfortable. Yeah, he can make he makes
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  Speaker 3: you feel very comfortable talking to him. He's fantastic and
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  Speaker 3: shout out to Daniel Williams, thank you buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he does. He makes you feel comfortable. And we
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  Speaker 2: start chit chatting, and we started talking on a messengers.
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, I've seen one back in eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: I said, back in you didn't even hear of a
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  Speaker 2: dog man. You're the Bigfoot. But I said, dogman wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that well known. And he said there's just he said
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  Speaker 2: there out there, and he said, people just don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about And so we started talking and I told him
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  Speaker 2: one day when he started his podcast that I would
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  Speaker 2: be I said, I'd share my encounter with you on
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  Speaker 2: the podcast. He does not with anybody else. So we'd
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  Speaker 2: bonded and become friends. And now we're like brothers. We
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  Speaker 2: share everything, you know, information, I have people reach out
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  Speaker 2: to me. It's adding counters and if I can't answer
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  Speaker 2: the questions, I pushed them towards Daniel. But I mean
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Oil.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a psychologist, but he knows he suffers
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  Speaker 2: from post traumatic syndrome, so he knows the effects of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And once I started talking to him, the nightmares that
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  Speaker 2: I had went away.
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  Speaker 3: Muh, you had nightmares, tell me about the tell me
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  Speaker 3: about him if you'd like Larry, if you if you want,
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  Speaker 3: don't want it, that's also fine. If you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in my in my dreams, that didn't end
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  Speaker 2: so well. It actually climbed up in the tree.
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  Speaker 3: And got yeah, damn dude. I've had being a also
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  Speaker 3: having post traumatic stress disorder myself a little bit, not
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  Speaker 3: as much as other people. I think Daniel's a little
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  Speaker 3: worse off than I am. And the dreams of you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: still being in military, still being in combat, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: my fellow soldiers around me, you know, losing their lives
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  Speaker 3: and things like that. It took me shit ten years
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get through that. And then talking to
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: some people who are former military people. I have a
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  Speaker 3: friend of mine who also has a real bad who
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: want to do Iraq war, and we just started talking
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and we I got into a comedy community in Germany.
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  Speaker 3: He went through it, man, he went through a lot
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: of stuff and we just would always just kind of
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  Speaker 3: tell y'all, yeah, I know what you're feeling, man, I'm
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  Speaker 3: here and it's good. Like you're saying that you have
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  Speaker 3: someone like Daniel that will jump into the jump into
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  Speaker 3: the uh and to see you with you there and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: kind of wait around with you to let you know
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  Speaker 3: that there's somebody there. So it's it's very important that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: your guys podcast as well as many others, including this one,
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  Speaker 3: and that people feel that he can just say what
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  Speaker 3: it is they want to say. And I'm feel any
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: type of condemnation man, and and I think it's a
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: very admirable thing which you both do for other people
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  Speaker 3: as well. I mean, you had on, uh, you just
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: had on Bruce Brown recently and uh, Bruce Brown, his
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: experiences are are you know nightmare? Yeah, that poor guy. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: even with his police training, you can tell that. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's said calm and nonchalant about it. But it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of unnerving that he's so calm.
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  Speaker 2: Especially one that added a windfield on his truck. And
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  Speaker 2: I think he's seems very common. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: trying to get in to eat me.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, I got his Okay, So I just started
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I putting a new intro on my MP three side.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: If you guys want to go over to the MP
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: three side, you can go ahead and do that. Spreaker
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Spotify Apple podcast where you want, I'm making a new intro,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: excuse me, a new intro, and that very story is
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the very first one in the intro where he talks
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  Speaker 3: about putting what he had his hand on the windstow
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  Speaker 3: and started cracking it. Yeah, oh man, I was I'm
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  Speaker 3: choked up now about I mean, on the edge of
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  Speaker 3: my seat. This is Uh, people don't realize, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they like to watch horror movies. But this is real stuff, dude.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what people need to understand.
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  Speaker 2: If I attracted like damn like he does, I probably
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  Speaker 2: stay out, so I won't go out anytime. That's but
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  Speaker 2: he goes out looking for.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah that kind of guy.
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  Speaker 2: But he goes out looking both.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean by both? What's the second
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: time it happened? What happened? I don't think you told
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: me about this one?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another time I mushroom had and saw one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Are these both in Indiana? Are these both in Indiana? Yeah? Okay,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: so you're mushroom hunting. It was watching and what were
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you doing? You were just looking for you.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Know, rolls. I was looking for Moray's mushroom mounting and yuh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and I just had that feeling again, you know, like
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I's being washed, and I could feel presents. And I
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: looked over my shoulder and I seen something out the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: corner of my eye and uh, it's standing beside a tree,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: looking over a grape biden is probably about six inches
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a ramp, I mean.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And I could see the muzzle, the ears, the head
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: part of the body.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yuh. And I said, Larry, you need to get out
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of here. But I knew better than the run. You
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: don't run.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: No. I turned. You probably backed your probably backed your
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: way out of wherever you were because something you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: you have to kind of. I can look.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I just walked really slow and acted like I is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: still doing what I was doing. And I just glanced
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: back every once in a while. I did that for
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: probably one hundred yards or so, and I looked and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: where it was it was gone. It wasn't there.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which you can be unnerving as well, because now
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: you're thinking, where is it now?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Right. That next day, I went back looking
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: for warm mushrooms. I always carry a sidearm with me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I don't go in the woods naked, right, you know, No.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But now day and looked around, looked for tracks, didn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: find no tracks a little bit as disturbance in the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the leaves where it would was standing. And I said,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: why now are they here? And I got to think,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and I was like, well, there's a river here, cover
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and just so recently a population around our town of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: deer and other animals is really I mean, and they
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: got food source, they got water and covers, so anywhere
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that is, they're going to be so kind of massive
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: with me because it's just right down the road from
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Larry, if you can correct me
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, I think the main reason for you
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: doing what you're doing and talk and coming out and
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: speaking to me and many others is is twofold. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: believe it's to make people realize that they're not alone.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: And secondly, and maybe even more importantly, I would definitely
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: say more importantly is public safety. You know, we are
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: all over the woods here and these things are out there,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: and there has been you know, kind of under the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: radar hidden like you know, autopsy reports that are unexplainable,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: missing missing person reports, yes, sir, and and I mean,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: what would you suggest is the people who go in
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: the woods. I mean, you know, just be aware of
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: your environment, make sure that you're you got some protection
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: with you. Anything else, maybe go somebody else, something like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Keep your head on the swivel on when you can
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: go with somebody else, don't go along. H But no,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Since that and getting involved with the group, I've spent
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: countless hours reading about encounters and research. And there's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: guy who lives here in Indiana that has been into
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: it for a while and he keeps posted on you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: know that the encounters in Indiana, and they seem to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: be multiplying more and more each year. But yeah, if
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you're gonna go out there and somebody, I would carry
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a firearm if you're able to, you know, because there's kyots,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: there's cougars, there's bodcasts besides that that. But you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I've went over a thousand right counters, and most of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the time they scared the ship out of the people
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and then they leave. You know, they don't attack.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: But that's very good thing. There's probably a thousand, but
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I yeah, imagine all the times you're in there doing
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: what you're doing, you you feel something, you feel something,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you feel like you're being watched and you can't see
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: what it is that's watching You just feel like the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: woods are maybe I don't know, if haunted or something,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and you're like, you know what, I get out of
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: here and they just didn't see it. I think about
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: how many times that has happened.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get that heavy feeling or a sense
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of dread and you're in the woods, don't run out
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of the woods. Just steadily head out of the woods,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: because listen to your gut, it's normally right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: So right, So now being a research in other words,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you're doing all these you know you're doing all this investigating.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Are you doing investigating? That's a good question. Are you
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: investigating encounters? Are you helping other people?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I'm helping other people. A lot of people are reaching
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: me out to me about their encounters, wanting opinions or
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: suggestions or what to do, And you know, I tell
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: them what I can. And I've met so many people
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: since I've been doing this and made friends with a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: lot of people that know more than me about bigfoot,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: dog man, crawlers, whatever. And if I can't answer your
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: question or don't feel comfortable giving them the advice, I say,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: reach out to this guy and no, like Daniel, did
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: me do what I can, but if it really has
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: affected or they need to seek therapy.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Yet the sort of people I can suggest people reach
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: out to that I find that for me have been
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: people that I trust and those two are Darryl Denton,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: look him up. Darryl Denton, d A R R E
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: L d E N t O N. Also known as
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Tennessee Tennessee dog Man or Tennessee bigfoot Man. I can't remember.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: He's got a title now, uh or Tennessee or Alfred
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Santa Riga and the Paranormal Alfred Santa Riga in the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Big Bronxville Paranormal Society. Fantastic And if you really want
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to go and talk to somebody, you can always go
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to the North America. Yes, he's he's a great he's
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: a good friend of mine, really good friend of mine.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Go to the uh uh, the North America Jody Cooks Project. Yes,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: go over there. Talk to the people over there. There's people,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: there's region executives, there's a regional people who can talk
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to and if they can't answer your question, they will
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: direct you to mister Jody Cooks.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: You know, and he if he has time, because he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a very big man. He will also he answer your questions,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and you can also post your things, if you can
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: post pictures if you have them over there, and you
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: will find a community where you don't feel so alone. Guys.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: It's uh, it's quite scary out there in the woods
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and and uh, I don't know, man, what is your
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: take on it? Do you think I've always asked the question,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: do you think that knows of these of these of
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: these of these creatures?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Can you repeat that and say a little bit louder,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: no problem.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Technical issues, guys deal with us today. I'm asking I was,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I remember myself, I was asking, do you think the
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: government knows that these creatures exist?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I sure need I think, I think ay no.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And I think besides being uh, you know, I don't
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: know what the origins of dog Man and Bigfoot, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the original ones. I think they've captured time and did
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: bio engineering with some of them. There's too many people
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that say, yeah, you know, there's been people come forward
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that we're from a military and said, hey, I've seen
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: them in cages and they're they're developing these things, they're
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: making more of them.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a scary proposition, isn't it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: That's a scary proposition. And then maybe some of them,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, either they were intentions, if that's if that's
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: if it's true, we'll just say we'll just say for
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the saken argument it is that means these things I've
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: either escaped from their captive holdings or they have been
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you know, deliciously set loose, you know, for whatever reason. Yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: released them. There you go, Larry, That's what I'm talking about.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Well you were also, Yeah, please, A lot of the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of encounters have and then national and state
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: far course, if you do some research and digging, you'll
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: find out three quarters of that happens in state parks
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: and National Force.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I read somewhere on the internet. I mean, you gotta
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: take it with the grain of salt. But I'm not
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: gonna call the person a liar just because I didn't
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: hear it coming out of his mouth or see it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: He's saying that they had zones like buffer zones in
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the national parks, and they had tracking devices on these creatures,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and they were supposed to be contained in them certain zones.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They figured out a way to get past it. So,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, and if they are they if they're from
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the original origins, you know, and they've been around for
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a thousand years, thousands of years, we know that that
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: there has to be a breeding population for them to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: continue on exists like anything else in nature. I mean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: they're not immortal, so for that tripped species to survive, well,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: there has to be a breeding population.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the immortality of them seems to be quite
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: an interesting topic. I mean I've heard of, you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: situations where bigfoot have been taken or they have been
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: hit by a car and we know that they didn't survive,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: so they're just go ahead and you know, if they're marked,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you know, like you're saying, that would make great sense there.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I never thought of that they have some type of
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: GPS collar on them or something or whatever it is
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: on them, or chipping in or wherever the hell it is,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: that they would know where they are. They can see
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: they're not moving, or they can tell that their biometrics
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: have stopped, that they're hard to stop beating, and they
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: can just go and retreat the you know, retreat the
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: bodies and then go ahead and talk tuck them away.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: That's why you will see. I was talking to Alfred Sandriga.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: He said he was in a state park. He's seen them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: He said it was were ripped up and it looked
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: like he said that for some reason he told me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I can't remember why he told me, but he looks
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: like he said, there was a battle between you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: foot clan and so there, and he was there like
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: research and searching, and all of a sudden one day
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: as he was leaving that area, uh, you know, a
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: fucking van pulled up with the tented windows. Guys stepped out, Hey,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: you can't go there no more. And if you do
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: this that and this, that and the other and the
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: fourth and he was like, you know what, no problem.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have to go here anymore. I got plenty
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: of other areas to go. He's actually seen he was
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: telling me, like he's seen them in a swamp, swampy
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: area where I had a den in the middle of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: a swamp, where like like a little tiny like raised
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: up island with some sticks, some reeds stuck stuck up,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: and he's seen it through there. And then the damn
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: thing seen him. He left. He went home and followed
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: him home and took the door fra him out of
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: his h out of his out of his sliding glass door.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: He had to freaking he had to like scare him off.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: He said, it's it's he said, they can be altra aggressive.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm with you saying that you can walk a
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: block half a block away from your house and you
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: still feel that feeling. That means I know where you are.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: But do you feel that feeling every time you go
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: in the woods or only in certain areas or at
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: certain times or certain places.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, not every time, but probably I'd say two out
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of five times when I'm out in the woods, I'll
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: feel that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: So about forty right here, it's a lot of my
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: barn and.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Feel it so.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Gota meaning have you ever considered, Yeah, have you ever
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: considered putting out some type of audio recorders because you
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: know the visual recorders they don't really work very well.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Actually you consider doing that by to.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Do that record? But see the two times that happened.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a cell phone with me back in eighteen,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, that I mean, you couldn't.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Even Definitely not an eight Definitely not an eighteen eighty nine,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: mister Martin McFly, definitely not eighteen. I was thinking about
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: it's so funny to research.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen eager.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: No, it's cool, budd it's cool. It's cool. I mean even.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: My buddy he had a phone, but it's one of
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the big bag phones like a cell phone, but it's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: a bag bound.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: No, I know you're a religious man. You're I wouldn't
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I know you're a religious man, Joe. So I know
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: that you're a religious man, you know, very devout Christian.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Now you are aware that if you feel threatened on
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: your property that you can do. Uh, it's a great
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Scott Carpenter told Darryl Denton, Becausedaryl Denton had a very
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: interesting like they were beaten on this door that you could,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you know, you can get a priest out there if
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: you like, or a pastor whatever you know, I don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: know your denomination and go out there and rebuke them
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: as well, and then go ahead and get your house,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of like protect it. You can do that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: So just if but just uh not just you, but everybody. Okay,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: there you go. Body. I didn't have them.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Our Our first property was here. Mobile home got destroyed
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: in the storm, I mean it got and then when
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: we moved a new one in Uh. I had the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: pastor down and cooked a big dinner form and I
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: talked to him, you know, before the dinner, I said,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: do you mind annoying mine house and put some protection
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: over it from the storms and the evil things in life?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't mind at all. Erry. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: he went around and annoying that every window in the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: house and each store away, and he got steak dinner
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: out of it. But it made me feel better. It
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: made me feel better.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: For the kids. I'm sure he's not going to do it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: He's not gonner. He's prayer and that's all.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Or wrong.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: He said, the only spirit in this house that is
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: allowed is the Holy Spirit.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: And that's it. I've slept with these many nights knowing
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that that he isn't knowing it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: The house and.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: The only spirit in there allowed in there is the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Holy Spirit. Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so but you on, dog man, you know, they're
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: just like people. I think there's good ones and there's
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: bad ones.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Uh. They probably run in small.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Do what what what makes you say that? What makes
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you what makes you say that some are good or
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: some are bad?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Just on the accounts that I've read and talked to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: people about where they encountered one and that you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: it could have had them in the blink of an eye,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and it chose not to. It's scared to crap out
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of them, but it turned around and walked away. And
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: then there's ones where you talk about the corners finding
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: evidence where and then a recent attack that happened not
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: long ago in Oklahoma. Of course, when they said they
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: sent the DNA off and all this, we knew if
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: it really was a dog man that would get covered
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: up and blank something else would get the blank for.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But we know there's all the four to one one
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: cases timed right, Uh, aliens abducting them all, I don't
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: think so there's dog man and Bigfoot maybe taking some
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of them, Yep, quite possible.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Uh wow, when you walk up in our National park rangers,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: it's interesting how the government go ahead, Tom, Yeah you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: walking please, I'm sorry, was your there's a time delay,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: and we're kind of yeah, what I'm just saying, it's
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: like what I was trying to say, if I remember,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: it was basically like, uh, you know, the US, the
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: US government is basically you know, and and not so
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: many words said yeah, yeah, yeah, UFO is a real thing,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: and they're here visiting us, and it might be coming
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: out of the sea or from out whatever they're coming from.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: We have seen them, and I think that at least
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the next one up will probably be paranormal. And if
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: it's not that one, it's definitely gonna be Bigfoot, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: then right after that it's gonna have to be this uh,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: this dog man character. Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'm often maybe some of our technology the government's already
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: traded and did stuff with the with the aliens.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, I mean look at the rail gun
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: they got. Now this new laser that they're speaking out
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: there infinite. You know, you don't have to have rounds
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: of ammunition. You just have to have energy, and you
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: have a nuclear power Come on, man, nuclear power sol
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and they could just shoot lasers. That is some star
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: warship that they're doing. I mean yeah, people were like, oh,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: what about holograms. I mean I think it was like
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: two like over ten years ago to that freaking tupac
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: on stage and or the well in the gym that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: crashed down. You're like, yeah, what do they have that
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: we don't have? There are fifty years in front of us,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: and there's really not many people out there that can
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: change my mind on it, that's for sure.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to do That's like a lot
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: of the side By movies we watched growing up. Uh, yes,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: they were just slowly introducing something that they were working on.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: We wind up seeing it in the near future.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called predictive programming. Predictive programming, that's what they
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: call that. Yeah, where they kind of go, oh yeah, dude.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You know, even Star Trek with the with the door
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: in the fucking and the coder and the whole. You know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: if you're going back into the sixties they were they
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: might have that's kind of a very you know, genteel
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: of kind of like permitted. But like there's these movies
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: where you're watching the Matrix and you're thinking, dude, is
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that possibly real that we've that were already that we're
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: not even that? But then you know the you know,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: being a religious person, you're like, nah, dude, we're still
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: flesh and blood, bro. You know, who knows, dude? This
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: this is the the things that everything has been told
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to us that we've That's what's going on in the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: world right now. There's a shift of consciousness happening and
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a good one. It's we're going through a very tall,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: small tunnel of like like the birth canal of pain,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: where like, you know, we see the craziness you know this,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: you know girl boy, uh hormones, this, this, that and
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: the other, all this, all this stuff, and you're like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: all that is to to direct our attention away from
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: what's really happening. People are waking up and realizing the
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: institutions that we once trusted in and believed in are
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: now losing foothold in our way of being and that
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: we are now the you know, loving and I hope
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that somers along the line that we get back to
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the community concepts of you know, whether it's church, whether
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: it's you know, basketball leagues of baseball leagues, that we
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: get together and we we you know, break bread with
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: each other and we can still talk with these people
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and try this nonsense, this this malaise of like consciousness
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: changing that I believe that we are under or we're
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: basically trying to try and tize up and penas against
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: one another. But we have to realize overall people that
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: you know, as an American, that we're all America. Doesn't
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: matter who are you come from, that you here we
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: believe in something and we need to do that again.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: And those institutions are crashed, they're they're still in power.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: So what they do is they try to disconnect us
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: from one another. And we're not going to allow that anymore.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: That's why shows like your, shows like mine, many many others,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: even in this small corner of the weirdness that we're in,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: we're gonna continue. Yeah. Man, it's just I don't agree
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: with it. I don't agree with it. I don't agree
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: with it. I'm sorry.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The gang consoles, uh, the phone, I mean, our kids
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: are just so captivated with it. They don't want to
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: do nothing else, and that's sad.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: They're all strung out, man, They're all strung out, you
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: know how it is when we were kid, my dad,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: but they get your ass out there and cut the long,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: get your ass out there and help me do this. Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: But now it's like they just sit and play video
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: games and they're just constantly looking at look at this
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: damn thing. And they they're all strung out on you know, drugs,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: type of antidepescence, and they don't realize you have to
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: have a rub with with the earth. You have to
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: get your fingers out there, cut split some wood, plan
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: your garden, help you, and things like that will calm
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you on inside, won't be so captivated, as you said,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Larry very Well said, by the nonsense and connect to
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: nature into God honestly.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: H yeah. Uh. For as the dog man's concerned, I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: think we're going to just continue hearing more and more
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: about him or her, uh, because their habitat drinking, just
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: like the deers and everything else. The the more we
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: build and the more we take out, we're going to
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: see him in our backyards eventually.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean especially that's that's true with every animal. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But me and that I was on a podcast
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: last night. Me and him started talking about the supernatural
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: part of it or spiritual part of it. I think
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: he said, what do you think about them existing in
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the other realms and coming here? And I was like,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I said, I think it's possible, quite possible. Can you
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: hold on just second, tim?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely absolutely.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Oh. He thinks he's got to come in here with
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: with me, and then after a while he gets burnt
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: out once ago pastor, But yeah, I mean that dog
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: man goes far back as the Egyptians. That's a long
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: time ago. Hm. The Greeks talked about yes, sir, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the Book of Enoch Man. There's all kinds of stuff
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: in there, and that's probably why it was left out
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the Bible, along with what seventy eight seventy nine other.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: But the Council of the councils, I see you. Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: the council might say the middle about the yes it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: a and the yes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Good cat, dude, I like that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But they're the ones that changed the Bible, took books out.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm not knocking you know it as a religion.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: But the older Roman Catholic is the one that did that.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and well it was what was it, What the
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: hell was his name? It was the Roman emperor at
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: the time. I'm gonna kill myself, but he was he became,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: you know, he became religious, became he became a you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: follower of Christ. And then they had a bunch of
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: different types of sex going around. And then they had
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: the counsel and I see you what they said, Okay,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: you know, we're only going to put these four you know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Luke Mark, Luke Mark, Matthew and John in the Bible,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: and everything else is going to go out. And then
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: they just found. They found scrolls in the sixties and
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: dead seas and they're like, oh my god, what's this.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of parts of the Bible
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: that are missing out. There's a lot of i mean
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: something that's you know, the world changing that you know
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: that God and Carnate came down to save humanity. There's
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: going to be some things that people believe or they
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: got to that's got to be kind of cut out
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: to get to the point to make it where people
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: kind of see it and look at it and understand it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: But there's many pieces, like you're saying, Larry, that are
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: not missing per se, but that need to be kind
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: of rediscovered and looked at in a new light, especially
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: looking back. I agree. I think that's a really cool
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: point that you're making.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, all through all through history, we've found
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: giants all over the United States, all over the world.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: They're bounds. Yeah, oh my god, their existence Smithsonian got
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: most hevn.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: We lost them. And yes, I was just that dude.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the highest Bidder and the other ones. The Catholic
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: charac Chaz Vatican I guaranteed.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, damn y. You know, when you were under
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: a city there, and there's a lot of death hid
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: from us. It's hit from us. You know, when you
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: were a kid, Larry, they would say to you, they
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: would say to you, Hey, what kind of superpower would
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: you have if you could? And some people say I
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: would like to fly, I like to be invisible. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: would love to be able to teleport and just go
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: underneath in the catacombs of the Vatican and just go there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: It'd be invisible if I can did both. Guys, if
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I could be greedy and just go there and just
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: look at the stuff, be able to read all the languages, Aramaic, Latin,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: all those things, and just read through the files and
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: just know what it is. Uh, maybe even time travel,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: go back and watch the sermon on the mountains, or
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: go back and see exactly what I would love to
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: be able if I had that superpower, that would be
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: what I'd want to do, and and just give that
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: light to the world. I never thought of that, and
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I think that slowly is coming out. Yeah, oh my god, dud,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: wouldn't it do? Yeah? I didn't call me in.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: About the forty days that Christ was alive or after
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: he was resurrected, rose from the dead, there was forty days, yeah,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: kicking out of the Bible, where he teached the disciples
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: all they needed to know, and then they went out
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to the world and preached the gospel.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: But there was forty days missing. And he said, I
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: was always wondering how that worked, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I was always wondering that, like there was this, there
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: was this, there was this part where he okay, do
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: have the you know, the crucifixion, and then you have
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: the three days and then the resurrection. But there's this
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: there's this miss disconnect between the point at which the
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Gospel is being spread throughout the world and that occurrence,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: and that I didn't know there was forty days. That's
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: new information to me. I'm not even a religious person.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just a man of God. I don't know if
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: that carries any weight anywhere. But I was not mad
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But to learn that, it's just I was like, wait
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: a minute, he didn't have time to teach the disciples
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: all they know. And then I was reading that article
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: about this and what books were taken out of the
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Bible and why some were left, and got he got
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: and then talked about the forty missing days and that whoa,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So I really started reading that and it's gonna be
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: in this new movie he does.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: So but yeah, recently, we're gonna find out how much
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: watch I never watched it because I just not the way.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: But but I finally watched The Passion. I finally got
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: to watching that, and that was that was pretty crazy.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Things I didn't things I just didn't know, you know
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: what I mean. It's always I'm always learning something. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: never watched it. I just I just you know, I said,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: you okay, yeah, yeah, it got Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: But there's a picture that's a.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Hell of the picture. I mean, I mean, I'm like
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm not I'm yeah, I'm not even a
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: religious person. I was just thinking, like, you know, you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it's I believe he existed as a person, at least
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you know, in that form, Okay, just as a person
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: who doesn't you know, follow the religion, and I do
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: believe he was s crucified.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: It.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: For me, it's the whole resurrection part. So maybe this
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: forty days thing will be something that I would be
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: really interested in. And maybe that was turn the table
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: from me. Who knows, man, I don't know, I'm open,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I'm open. You know to persuade him here to change understandings.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: And our government, our government is lied to the American
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: people for years since its existence. Maybe, well, wait a minute,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, our first presidents like that, they
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: weren't corrupt. But fast forward a little ways and then.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you don't. You'll never get to know
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: everything they did because it's just not written. If it's
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: not written, we don't know, you know what I mean.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: There's no there's some videotape with George Washington putting in
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: his wooden teeth, you know what I mean, who knows?
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: We don't really, we don't really know. It seems to
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: be that way. But when you're you know, anytime there's
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: you know, some type of uprising and the detachment of independence,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that are lifting and missing
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: out of every book. So you know, you're not just
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: a bible, I mean even American history itself. There's going
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: to be something that people just don't want you to
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: know about. It's just normal. It's kind of runner the mill,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: par for the course. They don't want to upset from
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: under away from their eye. Yeah, but we're not going
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: to let that then remember, people don't realize the government
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: is there to serve the American people. We are America.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: They are just a representation of us, and if they're
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: not representing us correctly, then we need to change that.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: We need to go that. And they tried to build
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: an institution in which corruption will not be involved in
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: it because they knew it. That's why they kind of
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: separated himself from England and many other you know whatever.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You know, my uh, the kings and queens and all
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: that exactly exactly long long live America, brother, God bless it,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's that's what I try
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: to get people to understand. Like the flood is a
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: representation of what we stand for. That's what people get
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: mixed up. It's a representation of of of of what
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: we believe, and it's a it's a hell of an experiment,
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: one of the absolutely wanted. I would say probably the
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: freest country in the world, because I've been to quite
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: a few. I don't know where you've been. I've been
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: all throughout Europe and now I'm going going to work
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: my way through Central and South America because that's what
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I want to do and see and people don't realize
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: how well they have it there. You know, you have
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: a right to complain, but at the same time, you
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: have a right to assemble, and you have a right
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: to stand up for what's right. You know what I mean.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Don't don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to exercise those
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: rights before they're gone.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I want, I want to drug around the world, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I drug all over the United States for zero twenty
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: five years when my dad was in service. So we
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: grew up on military base. So we're we're all pro American,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you know, yes.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Sir, Yeah, dude, because I lived I lived in Europe
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: for a long time and then when you when you
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: were there. I'm not gonna lie. There's a lot of
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: especially in Germany, there's a lot of American bashing. Uh
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: it was I remember like this was this was the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: craziest thing to me. I don't care what party you're for, right,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: it's not important to me. That's not important. I'm I'm
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: there for the process. I don't care who you vote for.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: That's the person vote for, and that's what the American
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: will is that I am the democratic and un pro democracy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: So whether it's him or him or her or him.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I could give a shit. What I didn't like is
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Germans would come to me and said, I can't believe
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Americans voted in Donald Trump, And I go, wait a minute,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: didn't you fuckers vote in Hitler? Because that in nineteen
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: thirty three you had a general election in which you
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: voted to Hitler. And you're gonna talk to me. You know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: it's crazy, It's crazy. Yeah, And then you and then
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: you start seeing like every country has its faults. You know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: every country has in every one of them. I don't
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: care who it is, but you try to make it better.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: You try to make it better. That's it. Man. So Larry,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: that was a fantastic man. That was so fantastic. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: love to go in through American history in the Bible
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: and the connection to dog men and the government and
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: all that. What's next for you, dude? What do you
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: What's next for you guys who were at the Crypto Wranglers.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: No, we're helping our piet podcast spread out and get
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: you know, more viewers and and to educate people.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want somebody to be terrified to go out
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: in the woods, but I want them to know what's
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: out there because our state and our government officials aren't
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: going to tell you what's out there national parks. Can
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: you imagine the revenue they'd lose if somebody did kill
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: a dog man or a bigfoot and then broadcasted on
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: the news and they said, yeah, these are out here
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: running around in our national park.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Industry, the logging industry, they would say they're protected, which
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I think they should be. Is there a real like
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: type of person, like you know, Bigfoot is different a
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: dog man. Bigfoot is his own yea his own thing. Yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: where people look at it and they look back at
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: it and they go, oh my god, dude, Like there's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: this feeling of innateness of like I can't harm this thing,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: you know. Uh, And imagine they recognize them as a Yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: they look at him and go, these are people too.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Then what does that do? Does that undermind him? Does
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: that undermind the United States as an undermine in every
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: country in the world, and it's sovereignty. Who knows what
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: that means?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: You know, like you said, the logging industry, Uh, anything
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: that affected environment if they were proving to be real,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I mean straight up here you go, scientists, it's a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: leavin It would affect so much. Yeah, that they have
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to keep it closed. It has to be hidden, has.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: To be hidding. But we're but you guys, Uh, you
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: guys over there crypto ranguage, you're doing it the right way.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: You're very very kind, very sweet. You listen to the people.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: I was on there. It was I had a great time.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: It was one of your first first show. It was
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: one of your first ten I think at least in
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: there somewhere. And uh, I was like, wait, a man,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: you guys only have to get thirty five subs. How
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: the hell is that possible? And I subbed immediately. Go
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: over and sub to the crypti Wrangular podcast. Guys, if
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: you want to reach out to them, you can go
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: ahead and do so. You got an email address layer
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: that they can reach out to you if they want to.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: They want to talk to you, or should they contact
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: through Facebook? I should reach out to you or to
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the group.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: I got an email, uh, Larry Leuxel two at gmail
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: dot com. Then they can reach out to me on
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Messenger or Facebook. Uh h, I accept frame request. I
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: might you know, screen their profile, make sure they're bottom.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: We'd probably be well over thirty five, probably right at forty.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: But we had to get rid of so many trolls.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, h For one instance, I was talking to
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: a woman and she came forward in the group and
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  Speaker 2: shared her acounter and she got small five group of
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  Speaker 2: pit bulls. I went in there and I just start
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  Speaker 2: going click click click click click. Yeah, you have to
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  Speaker 2: have five members boom rock at just you know.
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  Speaker 3: We will. That's my attention to bully. Yeah, I really.
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  Speaker 3: I've recently had a gentleman on who works with the
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  Speaker 3: psychiatry the psychology of people like yourself and others who
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  Speaker 3: have seen these these cryptics, and it's kind of like PTSD,
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  Speaker 3: but he had another wording for it, so he's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like trying to coin this and try to bring
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  Speaker 3: it to the forefront. And he's spoken too like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, he said something like nine hundred different encounter
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  Speaker 3: encounter ease. I guess that's a word you would use.
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  Speaker 3: And he was saying, you know what, I think it
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  Speaker 3: is time. I think that these trolls that you're talking about, Larry,
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  Speaker 3: these people who come on and like you know, downplay
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  Speaker 3: and like attack people for their encounters. He thinks that
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  Speaker 3: it's an actual governmental conspiracy in which they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: like make a like try to muddy the waters, try
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  Speaker 3: to make people afraid to come forward. Yes, and he
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  Speaker 3: thinks that it's intentional, dude, I mean, and you have
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  Speaker 3: to have people out. I don't doubt it at all too.
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  Speaker 3: I never even thought of it. I was like, if
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  Speaker 3: they can do what they did with COVID, what do
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  Speaker 3: you think they can?
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  Speaker 2: Is a division among the people, Yes, And we need
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  Speaker 2: to unite at this, not fight each other. Share our knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: share what we learned, and listen to the people. Have
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  Speaker 2: an open mind and listen to what they have to say,
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  Speaker 2: because they could have made through something far worse than you,
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  Speaker 2: and you might be the only one they've wretched out
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  Speaker 2: to for help.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well, Larry, I want to appreciate I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: that you came on to talk with me today. I
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  Speaker 3: want to appreciate you and Daniel Daniel Williams a great
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Williams over that there. You guys are doing God's
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  Speaker 3: work over there, guy, I really appreciate what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate that you come on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Now, my friend, all right, thanks, it's nice, Tad. Beyond
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  Speaker 2: the show, Tom, I was spastic for a little bit
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, we got.
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  Speaker 3: To talk about other things of course, of course. Man,
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  Speaker 3: So guys, I hope you guys enjoyed that. Larry, thank
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  Speaker 3: you very much one more time, and we are the I.
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  Speaker 3: We are aware. I love you all and enjoy the
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  Speaker 3: rest of your day.