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Hutton & Withrow: Titans Hit Rock Bottom, Cam Ward Under Fire & Steve Sarkisian’s ESPN Snub | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 2: At Daily Wire.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: Big thanks to Coach Derek Dooley for that big dose
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  Speaker 3: of humility.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, every morning during the Open, during that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I like to start the day knowing my place,
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  Speaker 3: being humbled. I can also just take one look at
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  Speaker 3: my DMs right now and be humbled very easily at
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  Speaker 3: being called a racist repeatedly for daring to question the
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  Speaker 3: intelligence of a quarterback in the National Football League that
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  Speaker 3: gets paid millions to play the position. So we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about that today, Hutton. We've got so many big topics
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  Speaker 3: to get to. Danny Connell's Top 25 is insane. or
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  Speaker 3: at least his top 10. The rationale, for sure. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to discuss our buddy Danny Connell's top 10. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of college football to get to. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of NFL to get to, including more
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  Speaker 3: Titans discussion because there's so much to talk about with
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  Speaker 3: that team, Hutton. But pretty big moment Saturday night in Austin, Texas, we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got to get to. Yeah, the comeback was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we're going to discuss Danny Connell's top 25
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  Speaker 1: because of what Ohio State, they didn't get the win,
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  Speaker 1: but it's what they did. on the road there. And
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  Speaker 1: it's what ESPN didn't do. They didn't have a great setup.
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  Speaker 1: They had equipment malfunctions.
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  Speaker 2: That happens.
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  Speaker 1: They have the issues with the tech. That happens on
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  Speaker 1: our end. It happened to me yesterday. You had the
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  Speaker 1: apology for the halftime interview, and then postgame, there's the
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  Speaker 1: Holly Rowe run-in where there's people on her side, there's
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  Speaker 1: people on Sark's side. He says, hook them and runs off,
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  Speaker 1: and she gives the the look of just a pure,
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  Speaker 1: she's annoyed.
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  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. I'll be nice in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: But Chad, there's a lot of the uses of the
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  Speaker 1: word ass today on the show. And we've got, we
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  Speaker 1: have the Titans who played like ass, the Jets who
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  Speaker 1: kicked their ass, Cam Ward, who is I-ass. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's Sark, who you're just.
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  Speaker 2: Calling him an ass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, he's shown this behavior before. He doesn't appear
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  Speaker 3: to be the most likable guy. Remember when they were
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  Speaker 3: about to run out? I think it was a bowl
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  Speaker 3: game or a playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: But the dude that was with the TV team or
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  Speaker 3: the stadium team held him back for a second because
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  Speaker 3: the fireworks were going off or whatever. And he immediately,
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  Speaker 3: don't you ever touch me! And got in his face
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  Speaker 3: and is screaming at him and going nuts. And that
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  Speaker 3: was caught on camera.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was example number one of, all right,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this guy has a bit of a screw loose,
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  Speaker 1: which a lot of football coaches do. And look, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Some shrieking violet that's upset that a coach has anger
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  Speaker 3: or is emotional or anything like that. It's an emotional sport.
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  Speaker 3: I understand all this. But you beat Ohio State in
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  Speaker 3: a game you had marked for so long. If you're
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  Speaker 3: Steve Sarkeesian, right? You didn't lose the game. It's a
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  Speaker 3: legacy game. I understand being upset at halftime, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's technical issues, so he's not going to
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  Speaker 3: wait more than 20 seconds probably and then tell them
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  Speaker 3: to F off and run to the locker room. And
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  Speaker 3: Laura Rutledge handled it fine. She's like, look, we need
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  Speaker 3: to be apologizing to him.
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  Speaker 1: I had to hold him up.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't decline it. We just had problems. He wanted
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  Speaker 3: to go talk to his team.
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  Speaker 1: Fine.
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  Speaker 3: No issue with that. But postgame, you get the biggest
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  Speaker 3: win of your Texas career. you've got a spotlight there
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Arch Manning or the team or what
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  Speaker 3: just happened on the field and all this.
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  Speaker 2: Which is very typical, right? It's contractual to some degree.
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  Speaker 1: It's contractual.
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  Speaker 3: And also, the person interviewing you has a flagstick that
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  Speaker 3: says ESPN on it, and it's a company that's paying
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  Speaker 3: you $ 3 billion. $ 300 million annually is what ESPN pays
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  Speaker 3: the SEC for the rights of.
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  Speaker 1: To college football.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big part.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone wants to come back and say, the fans pay
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  Speaker 3: the salary. It's all about the wins. And if he's winning,
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  Speaker 3: that's what pays him the salary. ESPN has nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with it. I'm here to tell you guys, ESPN
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  Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot.
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  Speaker 3: The reason that the SEC is so powerful, maybe the
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  Speaker 3: biggest reason is their media rights package with ESPN and
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  Speaker 3: how they can promote the conference and The games and
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  Speaker 3: the availability of them and how everybody can go watch
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  Speaker 3: them and how many people watch them in $ 3 billion.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big piece of the pie to pay coaches also.
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  Speaker 3: That's Steve Sarkeesian making the money that he makes at Texas.
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  Speaker 3: So ESPN and the SEC in Texas are partners to
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  Speaker 3: an extent.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and let me jump into that. They're really powerful
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  Speaker 1: with the college football playoff. That's where they really control things, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: because CBS was getting a bargain basement deal with the
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  Speaker 1: SEC prior to this, and the SEC was all-empowerful then too.
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  Speaker 1: But it's the control and the partnership of the SEC
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  Speaker 1: that gets a lot in. They're dominating the college football
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  Speaker 1: playoff with teams that get in. That's the real power
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  Speaker 1: that both have and the ownership, so to speak, of
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  Speaker 1: college football. No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Point being, it doesn't take a– a deep knowledge, ball-knowing
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  Speaker 3: person to understand that ESPN and SEC are in bed together.
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  Speaker 3: And it is the SEC that is benefiting with a
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  Speaker 3: huge check that's being.
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  Speaker 1: Cut by ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: Also, last I checked, ESPN is the best out there
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  Speaker 3: doing live sports. It's still where most people go to
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  Speaker 3: watch live sports. We can talk about their opinion shows
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  Speaker 3: and all that. A lot of them are trash. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care about them. I completely agree with you on this.
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  Speaker 3: But College Game Day is the standard bear of the
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  Speaker 3: college football pregame show. And their lineup is still the
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  Speaker 3: best in all of sports throughout the day. And that
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  Speaker 3: is a great relationship for the SEC. So Steve Sarkeesian
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  Speaker 3: to then ghost Holly Rowe the way he did, clearly irritated,
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  Speaker 3: probably about halftime, and being held up. And to do that,
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  Speaker 3: I thought was insane of Steve Sarkeesian. I'm not defending,
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  Speaker 3: and I know you're going to talk about Holly Roe,
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  Speaker 3: and I want you to. I'm not defending Holly Roe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to act.
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  Speaker 3: Like Holly Roe is my queen the way a lot
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  Speaker 3: of media people do. Oh, my gosh, how dare you
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  Speaker 3: insult my queen, the sports siren Holly Roe. How dare
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  Speaker 3: you disrespect her. This is not about Holly Roe to me, okay?
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  Speaker 3: But this is also the point that I want to make,
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  Speaker 3: that it just drives me nuts with people. Ryan on Twitter,
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  Speaker 3: on TwitterX, responds, because I said, hey— Steve Sarkeesian seems
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  Speaker 3: like a real asshole, all right? And that gets a
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  Speaker 3: huge response from people. I have Texas fans.
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  Speaker 1: You're a cuck.
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  Speaker 3: Go sit in your chair. How dare you insult him?
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  Speaker 3: He's just being a man. He's masculine. He's an alpha.
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  Speaker 3: If he wants to turn down and spit in the
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  Speaker 3: face of an interview after a win like that, he
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  Speaker 3: has the right to do it. I believe there is
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  Speaker 3: a general way to treat people when you're interacting with
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  Speaker 3: them just on a normal human basis, right? There's no
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  Speaker 3: need to just be a jerk to be a jerk
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  Speaker 3: to somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You can just still have a nice interaction with someone.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be so wound up that you're
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  Speaker 1: just yelling at people and being a jerk to someone
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  Speaker 1: just because you feel like you can. Maybe I'm weird
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  Speaker 1: that way. That's maybe some old-fashioned values that I have.
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  Speaker 1: It costs nothing to be pleasant and nice to someone.
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  Speaker 1: You're right. It's free.
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  Speaker 3: So just be nice to someone if they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: give you an interview. It's like she was going to
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  Speaker 3: hit him with a hard-hitting question. Coach, how great is
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  Speaker 3: this right now in Austin? That's the whole interview. It's
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  Speaker 3: him talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: The Holly Roe part of this, though, it's the look
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  Speaker 1: at the end. Let me get to this tweet first.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Because then I want you to get to Holly Roe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Yeah, okay, so go. Is
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  Speaker 1: this guy defending Holly Roe or just taking it up
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  Speaker 1: for Sark?
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  Speaker 3: Of course not. The people who responded to me are all,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm a cuck. Sark is a man. Holly
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  Speaker 3: Rose sucks. You know, the media sucks. You're an Oklahoma fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm for anyone ever spitting in the.
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  Speaker 1: Face of media. This is what bothers me, though, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Jones on Twitter says, don't be this guy, Chad.
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  Speaker 3: The media is unpopular. Many of us wanted behavior like this.
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  Speaker 3: What law says he has to talk to her?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. There is no law that says he has to
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  Speaker 1: talk to her, okay? There is a contract.
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  Speaker 3: With the ESPN and SEC, and I guarantee you as
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  Speaker 3: part of the game contract or the agreement is there
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  Speaker 3: are so many set media availabilities for the coach. He
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  Speaker 3: needs to go talk to the production crew, as an example.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he talked to Chris Fowler and Kurt Curbstreet.
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  Speaker 3: There's a pregame thing. There's a halftime thing. There's a
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  Speaker 3: postgame thing if you win.
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  Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. They won the game, too.
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  Speaker 3: So if you win, you're going to do all these things.
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  Speaker 3: There's no law about that, but yes, there's a contract.
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  Speaker 1: Between the two. The other thing, the media is unpopular. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If you were going to say the media is all
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  Speaker 3: the same about what everyone does. So what Ryan is
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  Speaker 3: probably saying is the writer for the New York times
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  Speaker 3: who backed mandated vaccines.
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  Speaker 1: And we all said that they're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: That person is the same as sports siren, Holly row,
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  Speaker 3: who was paid to sit there and look at a
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  Speaker 3: coach and go, coach, isn't this great? Tell us about
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  Speaker 3: how great this is and how wonderful your program is.
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  Speaker 1: And, oh, my God, Arch Manning. Tell us about it.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the same, dude. Like, this whole the media
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  Speaker 3: is unpopular, so say no to the media. These are
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  Speaker 3: different things. Laura Rutledge giving an interview during the game.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Steve Sarkeesian, very pleasant if you notice
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  Speaker 3: the side-by-side when he's seen.
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  Speaker 1: With Laura Rutledge. as opposed to Holly Rowe. These are
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  Speaker 1: not the same things.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're angry about political slants or the coverage of
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  Speaker 3: COVID with the New York Times, this is not the
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  Speaker 3: same as ESPN reporter Holly Rowe propping you up for
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  Speaker 3: a postgame victory lap.
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  Speaker 1: I look at this and think he just had waited
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  Speaker 1: at halftime for a however long this was with technical issues.
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  Speaker 1: And as they go to the, it's not like he
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  Speaker 1: didn't go to Holly Rowe. He comes over after the game.
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  Speaker 1: And Chad, if you notice, her mic's not working at
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning. She drops it down and picks it
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  Speaker 1: back up because she can't hear herself in her earpiece.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think he just thinks, oh, here we
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  Speaker 1: go again.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out.
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  Speaker 1: Because ESPN screwed this up again, too. And who knows
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  Speaker 1: what happened behind the scenes with making him wait and
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  Speaker 1: the equipment not working. Yeah, he was a jerk there.
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  Speaker 1: But Holly Rowe knows that the equipment wasn't working at first.
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  Speaker 1: And then her mic comes on. And then she turns
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  Speaker 1: around and you see the face that she gives. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get my moment. is what I'm thinking. Like,
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  Speaker 1: your equipment wasn't working and he's a coach that's just
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  Speaker 1: fired up and he's still pissed off probably about halftime.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a guy that is, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: just like crazy, but it's not, I mean, he did
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  Speaker 1: have a, he did have some issues at USC, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that happened there, but like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure he is kind of fired up about everything.
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  Speaker 2: That's just him.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't, it wasn't a huge issue It would
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  Speaker 1: have been, had there been some kind of controversy going
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  Speaker 1: into this, it would be this week, this coming week,
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  Speaker 1: with Ole.
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  Speaker 2: Miss and LSU.
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  Speaker 1: But the comeback, I was surprised he didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: get the glory himself or put it on Archer, whoever
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to. I guess he didn't feel like he
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  Speaker 1: needed to. He also didn't do the Ryan Day taking
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  Speaker 1: shots at Lou Holtz after a win. in taking the interview.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he saw the equipment not working.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not waiting on you again.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out.
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  Speaker 1: He would wait with Laura Rutledge, I guess. It was
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  Speaker 1: a very quick look down at the mic. She pretty
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  Speaker 1: quickly got to the question. He wouldn't know about the
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  Speaker 1: audio because he's not hearing anything. She's not hearing herself
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  Speaker 1: or any of that.
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  Speaker 2: She tries to speak and then she drops the mic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that certainly whatever happened at halftime led
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  Speaker 3: into him deciding, I'm out on ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this. Wasn't it weird how
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  Speaker 2: much they apologized?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Laura Rutledge's whole thing is like,
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  Speaker 3: my access is what I need down here. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a hard-hitting journalist, but I need them to do the
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  Speaker 3: interview and be open to talking to me. So instead
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  Speaker 3: of burying the guy, because I'm sure by watching it's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Sarkeesian's mad. He's butthurt about being down at halftime.
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  Speaker 3: He ran off from me. I was fine with that.
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  Speaker 3: She's clarifying like, hey, we actually owe him kind of
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  Speaker 3: an apology. He didn't refuse it. He walked away before
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  Speaker 3: because we had technical issues.
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  Speaker 1: After time at halftime.
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't try to speak in the mic. He
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  Speaker 2: just gives the hook'em in the camera. And that's postgame.
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  Speaker 1: And then, again, at halftime, I just felt like it was–
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  Speaker 1: everybody has technical issues. I don't hear an apology on
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  Speaker 1: behalf of ESPN on the sideline report.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what– I think Laura Rutledge is one
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  Speaker 3: of the nicest people in sports media, having talked to her.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that she would be the one to
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  Speaker 3: go out of her way. I don't think– I think
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  Speaker 3: Holly Rose– I've got to be careful here.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I think Holly Roe's public perception is that
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  Speaker 3: she's extremely sweet and nice. I think that's true a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the time. I think Holly Roe has gotten
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  Speaker 3: high on her own supply a little bit. This is
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  Speaker 3: also what drives me crazy. I will side with the
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  Speaker 3: guy who tweeted me on this. The media does a
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  Speaker 3: good job of propping up. In the media bubble, they
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  Speaker 3: prop up some women in sports. to a level that
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  Speaker 3: I don't really think they're at. And Holly Roe is probably,
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  Speaker 3: not that Holly Roe's bad at what she does, it's
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  Speaker 3: just like you can't, she's beyond criticism, right? There's this
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  Speaker 3: thought like you can't criticize Holly Roe. You grant Holly
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  Speaker 3: Roe the interview.
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  Speaker 2: She's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: She's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Holly Roe's a nice person, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Holly Roe handled it well either. She could
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  Speaker 3: have made herself look a lot better and probably garnered
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  Speaker 3: even more sympathy for And the whole thing had she
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  Speaker 3: just said, well, guys, clearly not in the mood to talk.
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  Speaker 3: And Texas gets a huge win. So I'll send it
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  Speaker 3: back up to you guys or whatever. Like you could
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  Speaker 3: have played it off in a more professional, respectful way
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  Speaker 3: than rolling your eyes like a teenage girl scorned and
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  Speaker 3: walking off and stomping off the field. Like that stop
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  Speaker 3: off was very weird of just looking back like. First off,
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  Speaker 3: you've been in that situation a million times. You've got
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  Speaker 3: to roll with it and say something into the mic.
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  Speaker 3: She turned and looked like she was going to say
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  Speaker 3: something and huffed away and rolled her eyes and stomped
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  Speaker 3: off the field like a 13-year-old, which I thought was
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  Speaker 3: very odd also.
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  Speaker 1: It was the second time that he had done that
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  Speaker 1: because he had just left right leg at halftime.
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  Speaker 3: But he stomped off at halftime too, I'm sure. He's
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  Speaker 3: the jerk who started it. I don't think Holly Rowe
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  Speaker 3: handled it well either. And if it was Texas-Tennessee this week,
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  Speaker 3: And they had a similar crew there, even for the
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  Speaker 3: noon game where Holly wrote. It would be a story
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  Speaker 3: of how is he going to handle this with ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: But luckily for Texas, they get Texas San Antonio on
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  Speaker 3: SEC Network Plus this week.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think Holly Rose is going to be
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  Speaker 1: doing that game. So Rutledge comes on. Here's the quote
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  Speaker 1: you said on air. I do want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: we clear something up. Sarkeesian did decline the interview at halftime.
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  Speaker 1: He had waited a long time, was very patient with
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  Speaker 1: some technical issues that we had. He apologized to us.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: We should be apologizing to him, which we did. that
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: goes on to discuss other things. I just like, I mean,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's technical issues. And half the time, I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: prefer someone just give a halftime report. But, you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: we've got Aaron Andrews.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's just make that up.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Carissa Thompson.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Well, and Aaron Andrews. Carissa Thompson was responding to Aaron Andrews.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Aaron Andrews, by the way, if you remember, she had
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: the famous moment with Richard Sherman, where she got some
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: heat too, when he was like yelling at, You know,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: he's like, what now?
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: What now?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Like in the interview.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: And she's like offended that he was like yelling into
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: the mic. It wasn't yelling at her. It was just
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: like talking about the critics or whatever into the mic.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: And instead of being like, all right, we got something here.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: She was aghast.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it was like the girl for CNN when
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Clay said boobs was her response to like, oh, my God.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: You raised your voice. What's happening?
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, she almost ran for the hills during that moment.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: And that was another one. Again, I'm not.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Defending Holly Roe personally and acting like she's above all
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: criticism or that she's owed this or she's owed that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I am telling the sporting public, the SEC, I'm sorry,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the ESPN, they are owed something from the SEC. It's
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: a $ 3 billion contract. Those coaches owe the time they
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: can give to ESPN as a partner. Whether you like
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that or not, or you think they don't owe anybody anything,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: they absolutely owe them. Tennessee's playing Texas at noon because
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: ESPN tells them they're playing Texas at noon. Tennessee does
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: not want to play that game at noon. I've talked
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: to people at Tennessee. They'd much rather that be a
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: night kickoff where everyone's liquored up and ready to go
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: for the first battle in football of the SEC between
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: the two UTs.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: That's what they want. You know why they're playing at noon?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Because ESPN said you're playing at noon.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Because they owe it to them.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Because it's a $ 3 billion partnership, people. Yeah, that's the contract.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: They choose to let LSU get liquored up instead. LSU
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and Texas A & M is a tripleheader on ABC.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Alabama's playing at 2. I think Georgia's playing at 2.30, actually.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And then there's LSU and A & M. But that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: a triple header of top 25 teams. Top 25 matchups
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that week. And I'm with you. You've got the number
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: one team. This is the first week of the assignments, right?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Of the actual kickoff times. I think week four is
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the first one. Week four is the first flex. So
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: that's the first time they actually reveal new times. But
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: it's always, you know, the window. It's like, you know, I.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Think Tennessee Tech is going to be early.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It was never going to be at night, but they
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: give you like late afternoon or night, you know, or
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it'll be like six or seven. You know, they could,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: they could do that too with a flex. So, you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: about what time, but not the exact time.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Chad, we need to, well, I won't be able to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: go to that one, but the tailgate breakfast will be,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: will be fun. If you want to, if you want
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to sponsor the, the mid-morning, lick it up, get ready
• 18:20
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• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I think most people will still be drunk from
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the night before is the route to go in Knoxville.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: But is it all day? There's a reason why.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: It'll be a three and a half hour come down
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is what it'll be for most people in that stadium
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that are younger that day and older for that matter.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: It'll be one long, oh my gosh, I'm no longer buzzed.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: That's going to be the whole day. They're sweating out
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: all the impurities by the second half. Sweating the impurities.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: The Titans were the letdown. this past week on Sunday,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: losing to the Jets. And in thinking through, what just
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: happened there? Because it's not the loss. I say this
• 18:59
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• 19:02
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• 19:05
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• 19:09
  Speaker 1: all gas, no break.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We didn't see that.
• 19:12
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• 19:17
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• 19:22
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• 19:27
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• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Chad, it was quite the result against the New York
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Jets for the Tennessee Tigers. Quite the result.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And just thinking things through, Jared Stillman, he said it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the worst possible opponent in Week 1. You'd rather play
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: someone like the Bills, for instance. But I see these
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: guys in college win 73-3 whenever they're playing Children of
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the Poor down the street. So I don't think it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the opponent. It's the message. The buy-in's not there. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I've got some examples for you. Because Robert Stahl is hired.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And by the way.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dig on Robert Sala here, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I would be very alarmed with the Week 1 result,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: even though, guys, it's just Week 1. That's the messaging
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's coming out of their practice facility and at the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: podium postgame. In fact, it was coming out in preseason
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: when I pointed out they're more worried about Week 18
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: than they are Week 1 because it's about where they're going,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not where they are right now, which is very concerning.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: When they have an opportunity to win at home for
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the first time in 15 years in Week 1... And
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the first time to win in the opening weekend.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Like six. I mean, it's been a while. And it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: been a while since.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The players came out and played the way they talked
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in the offseason. For example, let's start with some background.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Here's Robert Sala at the introductory press conference where he's
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: asked where the bar is set. And keep in mind,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: if this is the floor right now, where is the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: bar set in Robert Sala's eyes when he took the job?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a standard, what will it look like when the standard
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: is set? How will people be able to recognize that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: your standard has been set?
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I already said it, man. They're going to pop off
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: the tape. You're going to feel like you're on the
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: field with them, with the energy, the juice, the speed,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: the violence. You're going to feel it from the living room.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Sitting on your couch, you'll be able to feel this
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: football team.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: What do you feel like are It was the opposite,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the total opposite of that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We felt it. We felt the football team, just not
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the way he anticipated. The effort, I mean, it sounds
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: like he's the coach of the Jets right there, based
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on the way the Jets play. His standard is about effort, energy, speed, violence.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: That's a mentality. The Titans don't have that identity, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: they can't speak that into existence. Here's Robert Sala post-game.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: after that that's that's that's his vibe right that's the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: standard that he's setting for the team that's where he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: got to get this team but after the week one
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just collapse uh that terrible performance embarrassing performance against the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: jets here he is week one this is monday on
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a zoom call with local media.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Your question with regards to the o-line d-line guys it's
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: week one uh I get it. There's 16 cities that
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: are overreacting on everything, and we've got to keep the
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: main thing the main thing. We've got to grow. We've
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: got to watch the tape. We've got to be honest
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: with ourselves. We are not the team that showed up
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: on Sunday, but we also have to acknowledge that we've
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: got a long way to go. But I know that
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: we've got a group of guys that are going to
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: come in here, work, and get ready for Philadelphia.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you do have a long way to go.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: The death march seems to be on already to the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: end of the season, at the end of December. Chad,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: there's Mike Borgonzi now. Mike Borgonzi, Titans general manager. He
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: agrees with Salah's all gas, no break. That's not hard
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to buy into. That's what the Titans need. But he
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: seems to also agree with the Titans season actually starts
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in the most wonderful time of the year, Christmas time.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Not here when we're actually kicking off the season. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: That's not the mentality we're seeing despite the physical effort,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the best training camp, the toughest training camp we've heard from.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: This is Borgonzi, not postgame. This is after they cut
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the roster down to 53.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Being competitive is just going out there and playing to
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: your style and competing. Obviously, you need the physical talent
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: to compete in this league. You need the physical traits.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I think we have the guys here to compete, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: I think we'll get better throughout the season. Probably a
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: better question towards the end of the season of how
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: we did, but it's a little bit unexpected.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: You don't know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: We have confidence right now that these guys are going.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: To go out there and compete for them to win.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, unexpected. You don't know how these guys are
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: going to play.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Despite them going after the champs in Seattle to joint
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: practice and Jeffrey Simmons saying, you know, we took belt
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to ass. We kicked their ass over the defensive end,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. And they, by all accounts, did.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But it can't just be one guy. Simmons, I'm all,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons is doing everything he possibly can to do
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: something in regards to getting this team to take a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: step forward. They're not going to match his level.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: He's elite.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Well, let me also say that it's awfully convenient that
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: they took Belta ass in a practice in August where
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: no cameras were around and it wasn't filmed. and no
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: one saw it, and suddenly they're coming out of there
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: talking all this trash. But yet when the network cameras
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: are focused on them in an actual meaningful football game,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: they show very little effort.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with this because here's Simmons now
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: post-game after week one where everybody's to blame.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Except for Hill.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Here is Jeffrey Simmons who's, I think, realizing, man, this
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is going to be another long season.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: I'll just share this without going too much in detail.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: You have to demand. When you speak, when you say something,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I don't give a damn. If it's me, if it's
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: in front of the whole team, it's just the offense.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: That's the one we're going to get to in just
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: a moment. Rotating up front. He's going to speak on this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Rotation up front. They're getting guys in and out all
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Here's Simmons.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: When you say something, I don't give a damn. If
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: it's me, if it's in front of the whole team,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: it's just the offense.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I'm trusting this process.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: Our coach has a reason the way he wants to
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: rotate and The way he rotated it, I'm totally fine
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: with it. We'll see how it goes next week. This
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: is the first game of the season.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: All the panic and no one in this locker room
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: is going to panic. I'll say that. The guys inside,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: we can block out all the outside noise. We won't panic.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: We'll be ready to work. We'll get back to work
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: and be ready for next week.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: By the way, there's no telling what Sark would do
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: to us right now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Chad.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: They're not going to panic. The teammates aren't giving effort.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: They're not buying in. They're not buying into the message
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of the offseason. Here's Kevin Dyson, who's on the sideline
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: for Titans Radio and flagship WGFX. Here's what he said
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: after the game. We've got the quote, I believe. Yes,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm sideline reporting and I see the offensive line. There
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: was a point in there where I can see guys
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: really trying to amp guys up. I would see Latham.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: He was like, let's go, let's go. And then he
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just seemed to kind of fizzle. It was almost like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the energy level just decimated. It was just decimated. It
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: was like they just went to the sidelines, sat on
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the cool bench. It was like, when's our turn again?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Just low energy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: There was a point in there where Cam was like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he's cussing here. I'm tired of this.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Three and outs. We got to do something. Starts with me,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: but you got to do this. He really tried.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And it's just like everybody's just kind of looked at
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: him and said, okay, this is week one against the Jets.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: After all gas, no break. This isn't Brian Callahan coaching.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's Robert Sala. This is the opposite. It's the closest
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: thing you can get to Vrabel. But yet, you've got
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward going over there doing that. But Chad, very
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: starting training camp. Here's Jeffrey Simmons. He recorded this after
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a practice with the Pivot podcast. Telling the guys there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that that day is when he went to Cam Ward
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in a weight room and said, it's time for you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: To take over the team.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: I just shared this without going too much in detail.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: You have to demand. When you speak, when you say something,
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: I don't give a damn. If it's me, if it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: in front of the whole team, if it's just the offense,
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: everybody listening. I said, when you see guys like the Mahomes,
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: the Tom Brady's, it's a reason why It's team success. Yes,
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Tom Brady, we can say the best quarterback that's ever
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: played a game. But when you think about these teams
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: that have all these success, I mean, we can say
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: Jeff Simmons, you've been here eight years, you're the face. No,
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: I told Cam today, this is your team. Like, when
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: you talk and you demand something on that field, off
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: the field, we listen. And that's that's the bigger thing
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: and I could tell that he won't he want to
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: know that he want to grow he want to continue
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to grow and I'm I'm excited for and I told
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: him I mean we're gonna talk smack we're gonna maybe
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: get to fighting that practice pushing sure but we're in
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: this thing together I'm trying to win on Sunday and
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: it's my job especially as an older guy to continue
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: to help him develop on that side of his game
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: and The football stuff is going to take care of itself.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Chad, here's my point here on this.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not pointing at Simmons at all, Salah, anybody else.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But Cam Ward's got to be able to take control
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: of that team. That's the biggest issue they have right
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: now is that he's not playing well. And once he does,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the team will gravitate towards the quarterback that's helping them win.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But my other issue, and I think this is an
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: underlying issue that's gone back a couple years now, They
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: have turned over this roster several times. They've certainly fired
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: general managers and coaches. But it's not on Jeffrey Simmons
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to have to go to every individual player and either
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: fight them or fire them up to get them ready
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: for game day.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: He's done that with J.C.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Latham.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: And J.C.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Latham has bought in at least to this story here
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and what we hear him say. And then there's Cam Ward,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: who is always... He's tried to fight Jeffrey Simmons last
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: year as a rookie. Is he supposed to go to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: 51 other players and do the same?
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: This is.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: This is more than just the embarrassment in week one.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: This was the opportunity to really turn things over in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the result. Effort and the mentality of... How does he
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: describe this, Chad? He describes solid, energy, speed, violence.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: That is not.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: That's not something that requires knowing the play call. And
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't see any of that on Sunday. And that's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: week one. We're not talking about when they're eliminated for
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: This is a huge issue.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And the overreaction can be whatever.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: The result of what we saw is alarming, given the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: fact that you scored 10 points, and it really should
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have been three, and you barely showed up to the game.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Before the route was on.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, the, what was it, 11-play drive,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: 12-play drive to score for the Jets?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: That's all they needed. They needed one touchdown to beat them.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: If not for the garbage-type touchdown. It was pathetic. Totally pathetic.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: When Aaron Rodgers had his R-E-L-A-X, relax rant with the Packers,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers at that point in his career had won
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. They had won a ton of games
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: with the Packers. So when you're talking.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Week one or early in the season and just relax,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: when you're giving that lesson to the media, I buy
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it from Aaron Rodgers, who's got some clout and had
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: some success and had seen playoff success in the league
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and had gone through it before. I think everybody on.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: That team and in that coaching staff needs to understand
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: this is not just week one.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: This is a three-, four-year process. Let me give you
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the stats. The worst record in the NFL over the
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: last 57 games since John Robinson was fired, it's not
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals, it's not the Jets, it's not the Giants.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: It's the Tennessee Titans, who are 12-45. The Giants and
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Cardinals are tied at 16-41, then the Jets. Worst record
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: in the NFL the last 35 games since Vrabel was fired.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So 22 games after John Robinson. The Titans are 6-29.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: The Browns, the Raiders, all better than the Titans. People
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: can get pissed all they want at numbers.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Numbers don't lie. These are facts.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: If these numbers and these stats offend you, I don't care.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: These are the numbers and facts. If you want to
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: go back and say... 57 games ago, that John Robinson
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: is the curator of all evil for the Titans, and
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: that they are still feeling the after effects of his
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: bad first-round draft picks, and that he is the one
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: who set them back. You are chasing a boogeyman that
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: does not exist.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: The bottom line is that John Robinson, they had success
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: with the Titans when he was making picks, when he
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was signing free agents. The point also is Mike Vrabel,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: when he was the head coach, they had success. They
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: had identity.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: We weren't questioning effort by sideline reporters watching the offensive line.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: The last I checked when Mike Frable was there. You
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: knew that team was going to go hard. You knew
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: that team had a certain standard of expectation of how
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: they were going to play and how hard. It wasn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: always successful. He wasn't always great. No one in the
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: NFL is. That's the understanding of the league from people
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: who know the league. But I do not want to
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: hear from Jeffrey Simmons, who I respect, or Robert Sala
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: or anyone else saying, guys– It's week one. Look around
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the league. I'm listening to the Robert Sala coaches show
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: last night. And boy, you know, I'm not trying to
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: throw shade, but the Colts got off to a great
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: start last year. Look how that ended for them. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: we saw New England lose to the Raiders in week one.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: And they ended up in the Super Bowl. I do
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: not want to hear that. You get 17 opportunities. This
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: is not Major League Baseball. It's not 162 game season.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about it. It's just week one, guys.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: We'll get back in the film study. We'll get back
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to practice. We'll be fine next week. No one wants
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: to hear that because it's not reality with this team.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: If it was a team that had success and won
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: games before, I'd be like, okay, yeah, they're right. Week
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: one can be a liar, and it's just week one,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: and it was a bad performance. That's not the case
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: with the Tennessee Titans.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Chad, you're absolutely right. They are 2-10, by the way,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: over the last three years in the month of September.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: 2-10.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: 0-4 last year. 0-1 this year.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear the excuse of, oh,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: these are last year's players. They have cleaned out that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: locker room and brought in former players of Dable and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Sala to be around the young nucleus of the team.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's also on them this year. So the overreaction, I mean,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I hear, again, I like Robert Sala. I really like
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff. But when you say you're not going
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to coddle anybody, I don't know what it's like. I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's peeling the paint off the wall
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: behind the closed doors.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe he is. But the fans are just done with this.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: The media is done with this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's just week one. It has been week one over
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the last four and a half years. And it's been 0-1.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Week one, 0-1. Because they win in December if they
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: win at all. And then they chalk it up to, man,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: we've got some momentum. We're going in. Wins matter this time.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Wins don't matter that time of year. It just prevents
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you from having the number one pick. The Titans have
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: proven this. I just think we saw this coming. You know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the whole, like, this is our floor. I mean, keep
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: in mind, elevators go down into the basement further. You
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: can have a parking garage down there. And the Jets
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: at least took the floor lobby. The Titans didn't do that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: It weren't even competitive. It's not even a final kick,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, crazy game. This was just clean out the stadium.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Get out of town. I don't know why you would
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: go and sit in the heat to watch this team.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It's just poor. It's apathy, and it's just, I'm over it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It's the expectation now, regardless of regime.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And that's pathetic.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: It is pathetic, and I talked to a couple last
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: night at a softball game who said, boy, I'm really
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: glad we went to that Titans game yesterday. Got out
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: there in 100-degree heat, went and got one light beer.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: It was $ 17 for the large beer that we got.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Went and sat in our seats and watched a terrible effort.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: And I got to be honest, I'm usually one that's like, hey,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: if you're a fan, you're a fan all the way.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: You got to show up to the games if you
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: have tickets. Don't let the opposing fan base take over
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: your stadium. I've got to be honest with Titans fans
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: right now. I would never go to a Titans game
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: unless it was perfect fall weather, I had a great
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: tailgate to go to, and I was interested in the opponent.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: There's nothing about this team or this organization that makes
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: me want to go sit in that stadium and watch
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: them play. Certainly not when it's 98 degrees on any
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: game or if it's raining or if it's freezing cold.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen right now, and maybe
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: that makes someone a bad supporter of the team or
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a bad fan. I would say the organization has to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: do something to earn it and deserve it, and they're
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: simply not right now. And no fan of the Titans
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: wants to hear how it's just week one and everything's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: going to be.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Fine next week. They don't. You can't erase that. It's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: one of 17.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: You only get so many opportunities. You work year-round to
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: get to these 17 games and to leave the first
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: game and be like, guys, guys, lay off the offensive
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: line and their effort or the defensive line not getting
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: the quarterback.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: It's just week one. Give me a break.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: The standard is not there. And they're saying, here comes
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: week two.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Just by Dyson's observation of Cam trying to fire it up,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and they're just looking at it like, okay. Just that alone, Chad,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: in week one, tells me he's got to do something
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this week, or there's another checkout coming. Because the team
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: has kind of been on to December for a while.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Even marketing, hey, it's the last year of Nissan Stadium.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Instead of marketing the the young nucleus of the team.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That's bizarre. It tells you where their head's at, top
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to bottom of the organization right now.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Chad, plenty to get to.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: There's another side of this story where we discussed Cam
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Ward yesterday, and you've pissed off Titans.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Fans, apparently.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, I did.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I made the mistake of questioning the intelligence of the scholar,
• 39:07
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  Speaker 1: We've got a big game against UMass this week. So,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you know, there's this, I've heard I haven't received anything yet.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's to come. Maybe, Chad, who knows?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe you'll be banned from the Titans press corps. Who knows?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, I hope Kevin Dyson's invited back after what he
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: said he saw on the sideline to do sideline reporting.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. This follows the order of Stillman. Stillman
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: says he was getting something in his DMs from some
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: burner account, he felt like. Here we are with you.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Set this up. What have you received?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, I questioned how smart Cam Ward is. I said,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I'm beginning to think he's just not very smart. This
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: is a combination of issues, okay? This is in-game decision-making.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: This is pocket awareness.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Different types of intelligence and smarts we're talking about here, right?
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: That's right. There's a lot of poor decisions throughout the game.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: There's also a lot of poor decisions with the media.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I think he handled Jarrett Stillman poorly for a guy
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: who hasn't done anything in the NFL yet. I think
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: he handled that interaction very poorly. I think when you're
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: asked about your own accuracy issues and you've had the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: lack of success he has— And this is what I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: was responding to. And your response is, hey, tell us about,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: you know, you missed some easy throws, some screen pass.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: And he's talking about his receivers need to flatten their
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: routes out more. And we need to talk about more sharp,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: precision routes from the receivers. I think that's the sign
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: of someone who's not very smart. I watched the quarterback series.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I got the sense at times he doesn't handle himself well.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: in a very smart way. And I knew the moment
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I said it, because it doesn't need to be said,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: but I'm not a racist. I called things like I
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: see them, regardless of race, much like I said Will
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Levis was dumb throughout the draft process, was dumb as
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: a player.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: For the Tennessee Titans.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: No one called me racist when I said that about
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Will Levis. Titans fans yelled at me and talked about
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: how doing the Mayo commercial was the smartest thing he
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: ever did for his career and how they loved it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: But no one called me a racist when I said that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And neither is Rod Davenport, who asked the question about
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the receivers and Cam.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: He got that answer. That's on Cam.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally on Cam. I'm getting some of the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: racism stuff.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Not a lot.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Cortland Finnegan took exception to it. And I like Cortland.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: He said, look, keep it on the field. Don't question.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like the thing about don't question effort.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Don't question this. Here is what I would say to
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: any of that. Question anything you want.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: This is a.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Profession that is highly pressured. You are paid a lot
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: of money, especially as a quarterback. You are paid a
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: ton of money to be the guy in every aspect.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Of the organization.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: It is not just some banker's hours job where it's like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: we can't question anything about this.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: We can't do that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Everything can be questioned, especially when it comes to the quarterback,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: especially intelligence, which, by the way, is a huge factor
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: in success.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: For quarterbacks, okay?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: They do the Wunderlich test for years. They do all
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: these different things.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: They're going to interview you to get a sense of
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: how you interact with people and can interact with the media.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Does it matter for every safety in the NFL or
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the edge rusher?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Not as much. Does it matter for a quarterback? Absolutely.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: It's why I called out Will Levis and his intelligence.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: It's why I'm calling out Cam Ward and questioning just
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: how smart he is. But, Hutton, we've got one Titans
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: fan or friend of Cam Ward who took serious exception
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: to it, which is why I want to reinstitute hate
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: mail with Hutton, except this time it's going to be
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: hate mail for me and not for Clay Travis.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Calling Cam Ward stupid is just simply foul and low.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Keep about mechanics and his actual performance and saying he's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: a bad quarterback when he's played behind one of the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: worst offensive lines his entire career. So Also something you
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: should factor in when you're talking about a young quarterback.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I DM'd you this because I wasn't going to call
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: you an asshole in an Instagram comment section.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: But how about you show some class?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Chad, act like an adult and uplift a young player
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: instead of kicking him while he's down. And not everything
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: on that offensive line... is his fault. Not everything on
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that offense is his fault. Honestly, he's the least of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: their problems. So how about act your age and apologize?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: You're effing pushing 50 for crying out loud.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I take offense to the pushing 50 line because I'm
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: 44 years old.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: This sounds like the local media in some cases. I know.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Let me address multiple points of his argument here. Beautiful job, Hutton.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I messed it up on the offense. As you read
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the hate mail. We're getting back. It was hard to
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: read that, too, because he didn't have any punctuation. To
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the person who has, take exception to this.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm stupid.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and say it first. Well, I'll be
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the first to say, I'm not pushing 50. I'm 44.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: And judging by your lack of punctuation, you must have
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: grown up in an era where they didn't teach punctuation
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: in school, and they certainly didn't teach math either, because
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: 44 is closer to 40 than 50. Try me back
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: in three years, and if you want to say I'm
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: pushing 50 at 47, that's fine. I'm closer to 50
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: than 40 at that point. Right now, at least for
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: a few more months, I'm closer to 40 than 50.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: And also, use punctuation, kids. If you're going to send
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a message to someone, make it easy by using periods,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: by using exclamation points, by using a question mark. Whatever
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: you want to do, use that at any point.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Can we break this down briefly? Can we break down
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the message briefly?
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out the age range of
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: this person. And I'm going to say they're closer to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: our age probably than anything because... of the last three
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: words of this, for crying out loud, the crying out
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: loud part, he would use an F word right there
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: for F's sake because he used it earlier in the sentence, right?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I'll say this.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: This person could be catfishing people, but according to their profile,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: they're 18 years old.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that can't be true. 18 years old would use
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: some different words. Using your would be spelled U-R.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't say Cam Ward. It would just be Cam.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Calling Cam stupid if he's 18. An 18-year-old would have
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: actually posted it in the reply section, the comment section,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: not in your DMs.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I would also argue that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised that he was totally okay with sending
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: me a DM like that, but I'm not going to
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: put it in the comments because I don't want people
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: to see it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I think an 18-year-old would go ahead and post that.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my response was, well, I appreciate it because you
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: just provided us with a segment on the show by
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: sending this in message, so thank you so much.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: So it's not intelligence that makes him overthrow Wandel Robinson
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: by a foot. You need Robinson to be 6'4 to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get a screen pass. The idea, though, that he... Backups
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: know how to do this. Rusty Smith knew how to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: do this. You stand at a podium and you take fault.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: And when things go well, you give praise to anyone
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: else on that roster. That's just part of it. You're
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: at the podium postgame, not at your locker. That's how
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you win respect. It's also like there's different types of smart.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I made the dumb assumption, assuming that Most people would
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: understand where I'm coming from, what I'm saying.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't do long division.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't go read a great American
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: novel or do any of that. I'm saying, Hutton, you
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: appear to be really dumb when you answer a question about.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Your accuracy after you got your ass kicked.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: In the first game of year two, not year one,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: by saying receivers need to flatten your route.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: You look like a moron.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm not apologizing for anything I'm saying right now
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: to Cortland Finnegan or anybody else with the Titans. You
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: look like a moron when you wear a shirt saying
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: seed after you refuse to throw a single seed in
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: your debut game. and you're skipping rocks to a receiver
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: that's seven yards away from you on a screen pass.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: You look dumb when you do those things. Am I
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: being clear enough on the different levels of stupidity I'm.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Talking about here?
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I hope I'm communicating myself in a clear fashion to
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: anyone that's watching this to understand there's different levels of dumb.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Cam Ward is incapable of doing
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: smart things. Or doing things intelligently. I'm saying I'm starting
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: to question if he's smart or not. When he does
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: things like wears a shirt that says seed on it
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: and then answers that question with that. I think you
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: look dumb when you respond to a simple question about
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: how would you evaluate your own preseason performance. That was
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: bad by then questioning the reporter who asked the question.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: He's not earned that yet. He's not earned it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: He's not owed anything. This has got to be an
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: organization that is starving. And instead, I feel like it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: an organization that's like, guys, it's week one. Come on,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: we're all pros here. We know what it's like in
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the NFL. It's week one.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: They have gone from, if they're hungry, we're starving. That
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: was Seattle preseason week. And they've gone from that to,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it's week one, guys. That's the reaction. There was a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: messaging change in Salah's postgame of the preseason, which I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: brought up on the show. And everybody has echoed that
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: down now to where it's just week one. Week one's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a liar. Not with this team. Not with this team.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: This team does this. And it's not the past regimes.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking, it's not even Brian Callahan.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: This is on the Titans. This is on the identity
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: or lack thereof. Cam Ward's got to earn the right
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to be the leader of the team and speak. But
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: to do that, no different than the coach. Vrabel did
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: this all the time, and it's not always about Vrabel.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Rossini probably reported what I'm saying. She definitely had the scoop,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: no doubt.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. She said it two weeks earlier probably.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: But Chad, Vrabel always said if they won the game,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: he would always say, players did a great job executing
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: game plan today. It was all about the players. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: then if they lost, it was just, we've got to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: coach them better. We have to be better coaches. We've
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: got to come up with a better plan. That's just
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: part of the job. Players want that. They don't want
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the extra call-out, especially if you're banning media members over
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: such a soft question. And I'm not calling out Stillman
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: for the soft question. That's not a ban question. Please
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: assess your preseason. What?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: That's insulting? It's so tough to answer. How do you
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: think it was?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And Stillman answered the question. I guess the media now just, oh,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: we're all going to be banned? Well, speaking of Stillman,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm being serious.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Like, Kevin Dyson saying that in that quote that we showed,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: probably someone calling him into an office or giving him
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: a call telling him to lighten up on what he's
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: reporting from the energy of the offensive line. Ramon Foster
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I saw yesterday. Jared Stillman had the quote tweet of
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: what he said, I guess, on the morning show where
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: he called out, you know, the lack of adjustments from
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Robert Sala and, like, what are we doing here? And
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, Hutton– someone is going to criticize
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: him within that organization or have a conversation with him
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: about spinning it a different way.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And here's what I want from the organization. Someone to
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: have the balls to say, you're right. You know what?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: The criticism is warranted. We got to be better and
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: we're going to get better. And I'm not going to
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: sit here and complain about it. What they're saying isn't wrong.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: We got to be a lot better with that. Instead,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: you get a lot of people behind the scenes in
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the shadows trying to end people's jobs.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Or cut out their credentials. Chad, I want to be
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: clear with this, too. I traveled with the team. I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was a part of Titans Radio for 16 seasons. I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: was in the booth traveling road game. And then I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: came and did Midday 180.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Not one time. Not one time.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Did they ever question anything I've said or set up
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Paul or you or anything we did on the show?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Not one time.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: And now it's gotten to this, where everyone's walking on eggshells,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: afraid to disrespect. It's not disrespect. Cortland would know this.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: If it's honest, if it's an honest evaluation, that's what
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: players want.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: They want it to.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Be honest and fair. If it's a fair criticism, great.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: But whenever things go well, be willing to say that
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: as well. Give the praise and be able to take
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the criticism. This is from the top down. This is
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: where they are. And when you lose to the Jets,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you've got no other option but just to take it.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: There's no other team beneath you to point to. Hey,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: we're better than so-and-so. We're better than this.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: We're better than that. There's no other team to point
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: to now. You are the bottom. That's it.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Well said, and I think a good distinction you made there, Hutton,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: about our time working with the Titans, or your time
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: working with the Titans directly, but also me on the
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: same show with you. There were conversations at times about
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: something I was talking about or clarification on something behind
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: the scenes, but.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: There were never threats. We got threatened by the Nashville Predators.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: I never got threatened by the Tennessee Titans on anything
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: in my time there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Vanderbilt and the Preds.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Got threatened by the Predators by taking something off a
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: different show that I was then threatened by my bosses
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: about after the fact because of that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, just.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Everybody having to sing praise and then having to start
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: a show yesterday, not us, but just locally, but say,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: for those of us that don't think we're going to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: be critical, we're not going to say this was good.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Of course it wasn't. And it's this clarification stuff. Like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: everybody's got to be just.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Nothing has to be approved. The Titans aren't seeking... They're
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: not seeking approval. They're just trying to make you not
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: give your disdain for the team and the franchise. They
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: can't wait to tear that building down. Can you just
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: cancel the season? Get on to Week 18.
• 54:33
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