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Sweet Baby Inc is your future | Maintaining Frame 86 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian and
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  Allison and this is the next episode of Maintaining Frame. How many times are
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  we going to do this to you, old man? Or how much?
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  How many sims are going to teach you this lesson? Old man? We
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  are going to be talking about something that I haven't thought about. Well,
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  actually no, I think about it all the time. What am I talking?
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  Who am I kidding? Something that hasn't been in the public consciousness for
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  about ten years. We're gonna be talking about gamer Gate because as I predicted
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  it was going to come back around. It was inevitable and it's necessary.
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  It never really disappear though it not for me. No, not for me.
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  I think that people go ahead, you know, this is ongoing.
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  It's just a fire that's gotten in under the ground and it's just there to
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  ignite again, does it? Nothing like that? The people who were pushing
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  this stuff didn't didn't depart, right, they didn't disappear, They didn't go
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  back to the phantom zone. Yeah, that's exactly right, just continued yep.
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  They didn't even they didn't even really hide. See, this is the
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  this is the thing. It didn't. No, no, no, this
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  is the thing for me. So okay, I don't know. Does anybody
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  here need a refresher on Gamergate. I know that we have some new people,
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  but I don't know if they're do you do you? Oh my god?
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  Yeah, I can give you like the footnotes version of it. Okay,
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  So basically in twenty they did start in twenty fourteen. I want to
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  say we were talking about these issues before that, because there was well there's
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  a reason for it. But in twenty fourteen, I believe it was August
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  of that year, a bunch of our articles came out from various mainstream games
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  journal websites, right, so like Kotaku and Rock Paper, Shotgun and I
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  don't know, IGN whatever, I don't even remember game Spot, I don't
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  It doesn't matter, right, all of these mainstream journalist websites at the same
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  time released a bunch of articles saying gamers don't have to be your audience.
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  Gamers are dead, and this is called the gamers are Dead articles. Now,
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  there was stuff building up to this before, because nothing happens in isolation.
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  But I'm trying to at least put down one sort of hard point where
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  a bunch of people started to take notice of a problem that was already festering,
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  not just in that industry, which is games journalism, not just in
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  the games industry itself, but in our entire culture in the West period.
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  Okay, And of that or from that on Twitter was this hashtag called gamer
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  gate, and it was you know, it was used by whoever could use
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  the hashtag. But like the people who were really talking about it were people
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  who were, to put it lightly, they were they well, at the
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  very least, they said, there is a problem with corruption, payola,
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  and by extension, ethics in games journalism. Right, What we're going to
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  say, what the underlying factor was was there was a scandal involving collusion between
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  a game developer and a game media outlet. Just that, that's it.
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  It was just one one yeah, one reviewer and one developer yes, and
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  there was an undisclosed relationship that would have influenced the reviewer's opinion. And this
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  ignited the tinder of frustration with games media that gamers have had for a long
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  time. All Right, And the details of what the specific scandal are irrelevant,
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  really irrelevant. The problem was this long standing tradition of gas lighting gamers
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  about and so it just ignited, ignited this this fire. The the hashtag
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  started. I'm not clear on the exact sequence of events. The hashtag gamer
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  gate started because gamers were getting involved and calling this stuff out, and there
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  was some stuff that involved with UH forums having these discussions taken down over and
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  over and over again, I believe and h and it's just ignited things further.
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  They took to Twitter, took to the hashtag, started talking about this,
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  and then I believe the gamer gate. The gamers are not don't have
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  to be your audience stuff. Yeah, the Game of our Dead articles,
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  right, Yeah, there's just like throwing gasoline on the fire. And again,
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  this all started with the media scandal, like ethics and journalism scandal,
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  and of course we would we had been talking about this kind of entry into
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  entry into specifically men's hobbies. I mean there is Honestly, ironically, since
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  we've gone through this, I've also seen entryism into women's hobbies too, And
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  you know, women can't like nice things either. It's not as bad because
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  women are more equipped to fight back, but men's hobbies really take the brunt
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  of it. They're like, uh, whereas women's hobbies are policed. Men's
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  hobbies are almost set to be destroyed. And I mean gaming is dominated by
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  men, not not what are those those mobile games? But yeah, but
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  but like the games that these people are interested in tears down like the big
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  not even yeah, a vehicle for their message, which is essentially apparently it's
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  starting to really feel like just basically white men are bad, and then that's
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  the message. Yeah. But the funny thing is that they say white men
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  are bad, but every male, every the males of every group are the
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  white men of their group. You yeah, yeah, no, it's true,
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  but I'm saying it starts No, it's true, but it starts with
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  white men. Because if you can get your foot in the door and say
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  white men are bad and people go, oh yeah, that sounds about right,
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  then it's easy to move from that to Latino men are bad, Asian
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  men are bad, and black men are bad. It's it's like it's all
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  yeah, and gay men are bad and exactly, it's it's just about we
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  don't know, we don't transmit. Yeah, but but that is where like
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  that, that's how they get their foot in the door. So if you
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  stop them at you know, white men are bad, if you could stop
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  them there, then the other stuff doesn't happen. So that's why I think,
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  well, yeah, I mean it's true that they end up treating all
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  men the same, but that's how they get their foot in the door,
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  because the white men are the people you are most allowed to discriminate against,
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  insult, you know, even just demonize outright. So as long as people
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  allow that, then everything else will will come down from you. Yeah,
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  as soon as you set up that one tent pole, then you set up
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  but Hispanic men are the white men of Hispanic Yeah, well, and black
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  men are the white men of black people, and gay men or the white
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  men of gay So did you just set up the other tent poles? And
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  you have a gigantic tent that's just labeled men and so mastering women and also
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  anybody who doesn't agree with feminism, let's let's face it, and all of
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  the intersectional aspects of feminism. And then and then you have a civil war
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  outside the tent between the women who don't agree with the intersectional feminism that includes
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  trans people and the women who do you know it just it turns into quite
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  an interesting mess, shall we say. But it didn't really start with that
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  the entry is of the Okay, we got to get into your hobby and
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  we got to police it for the dread influence of the white male men of
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  of of harassment, you know, so we have more women are taken care
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  of or are appropriately uh comfortable in your environment. And and then they set
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  up all of the overarching police like the policing structure that they set themselves like.
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  And when I say they there is a specific group that this is applying
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  to, it's feminists. They get into space, they tell them we have
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  to control this space to make it comfortable for women. Nobody wants to make
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  a space uncomfortable for women. So they see the territory and this is just
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  another iteration. Gunnorgate was just another another iteration of this. We need to
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  get into this space, we need to change it to appeal to a complete
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  the people. Who does you know the audience of games? It's not gamers,
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  because the gamers and I'm guessing that that article, which I cannot remember
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  off the top of my head anymore, probably singled out white men as not
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  really being synonymous with gamers and not being the audience for games. Yes,
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  well that yes they do. It's white men aren't do not have to be
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  your audience, or alternatively, we need to preach to them what they should
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  know about the world and what their moral schema should be. And also you
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  put us in power and will we'll make this space inclusive to all of the
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  minorities, and women are being excluded from it. It's like, this is
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  what they do in order to and you know what we even calling them feminists
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  and it's cultural authoritarians. This is what they do. They use any narrative.
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  I mean, if we hadset an obsession with drummers turning into green blobs,
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  that that would be the group of people that they advocate for to be
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  like, oh, we think of the drummers who or green blobs. We
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  need to take care of them, we need to protect them. They do
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  it so they gain power over the space. They can control it and manipulate
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  it to whatever ends that they want. And then it's also very lucrative to
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  present groups of people as victims of these spaces because people then give them money
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  to protect those groups of people. So, for example, in this in
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  this instance, we're talking about a basically a company that gets paid money to
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  for sensitivity in games or to make sure that people are included in games,
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  so they get money to control the culture for the victim groups that they supportedly
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  advocate for. And that's I think really the ultimate goal is to get that
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  money, that consultancy money to control and money, and that's I mean,
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  this is a story is old of time. Feminism can start with games and
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  feminism, like I want a better word for it than that, because it
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  really is cultural authoritarianism. But it seems like it's almost synonymous with feminism at
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  the point, because it feminism is the most effective method of employing this power,
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  because because we love women and we presume that they need our care.
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  On top of the women are weak and in case and need to be constantly
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  taken care of and protected from the harsh, harsh gaming wins of the world.
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  But you know this is this is the gaming is not the first thing.
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  In fact, there are a lot of for there are a lot of
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  previous things, and we talked about that on several shows we did before gamer
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  Gate started, about how entryism has targeted all kinds of male hobbies in the
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  past. I think that maybe the first instance might be in the sixteen hundreds
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  with male coffee houses and there's always this push to control and almost put like
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  male interests, male bonding, male socialization and activities in opposition to the interests
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  of women and then say, well, the interests of women have to win
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  out, so we got to control and moderate this stuff, you know.
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  And another example would probably be prohibition, you know, and other stuff that's
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  not coming to me at the top of my head, but those are two
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  good examples. Yeah, men's clubs and like you know, boys clubs,
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  like the boy Scouts, like everything everything that boys find themselves are men find
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  themselves. They get infiltrated by these people. And what these people do,
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  it's it's yeah, well they just they just what they do is they come
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  into a space and then in order to control the space, because that's what
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  they ultimately want to do. First they come into a space and they call
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  it sexist or racist or homophobic or all of those things, and they continue
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  to do that until they control it. And then once they control it,
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  they destroy it and then they move on to the next thing. It's like
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  it's cancer, it's literally cancer, and they don't care about that because they're
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  they're logic, they're iconoclasts. Ultimately, you know, they they want to
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  destroy the beautiful, and when something is outside of their space they do they
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  do like this is what this sweet baby thing is about. And I don't
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  mean beautiful like in a you know, like a sexual way or a romantic
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  way. I mean beautiful in an artistic way, like there is such a
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  thing as beauty and appeal and Games is art. That was one of the
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  shows we did where we had like a debate about it. Games is art,
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  just like film and music and television and visual arts and comic books and
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  graphic novels. And guess what they're in all of those spaces too, doing
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  the same shit. Yeah, and writing that's right and there, and they're
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  in all those spaces and they're demanding control or they'll call you racists and sexist.
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  It's like a mob shakedown by women mostly and the men who support them
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  in every single part of our culture. And they do it and they do
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  it until they control it, and then they destroy it and then they just
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  move on to the next thing because they ultimately they didn't really care about it.
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  They just hate that it exists. It seems they're they're all about iconoclassy.
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  That's what I think it is. I mean, I would say it's
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  about control and money. I mean, I'm sure there is an element of
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  well, okay, i'll put it this first, I put it I'll put
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  it this way. Yeah, in a way, but I'll put it this
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  way. Okay. So I just to quickly give you a general idea of
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  one of the events that led to where we are now, which is essentially
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  gamer Gate two what people are calling it. But I just think it's a
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  continuation of what the culture war itself is. Let me let me just bring
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  this back to the original gamer Gate. So essentially, one of the things
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  that was happening is the media was caping and like running interference for this activity
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  behind the scenes. Remember that mm all the collusion was coming in. So
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  the media pref friend pushing forward that was subpar, but pushed this particular narrative
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  and granted the cultural authoritarians more. I guess turf in in the in the
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  space, in the in the art space of gaming. So that was that
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  was to bring it back to where the media scandal came in. That's where
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  it came in. It was just before you get into specifically what we're talking
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  about today, I just want to add one more thing. I think that
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  this like this urge that women have to control the space and conty control the
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  resource distribution of a space, or control a resource and control the distribution of
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  resources. I mean, if you think about it, it makes some sense
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  because you know, you get men coming in with the mammoth and the women
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  are like, okay, we're going to butcher it and divide it up to
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  the various tribes members based on need, you know. So there's there's a
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  sense to it. It's just that when it goes completely bonkers and there's absolutely
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  no control on it, this is what happens. Okay, So go ahead,
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  Brian, I just wanted to Yeah, no, it's okay, it's
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  funny. It's funny that makes sense in context. Yeah. No, Well,
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  I think it's it is an instinct that has a purpose, but I
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  think it's being misused. And maybe that has to do with the fact that
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  we live in the first world and there's like so many comforts that you know,
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  I don't know, maybe it turns these women into these women into busy
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  bodies. I don't think this is all women. I don't think even might
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  not even be most women, but it is a certain group of women.
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  So but before I So I guess what I what I wanted to add on
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  to what you were saying about the collusion is that it's funny because the games
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  journals colluded to try to convince us that there was no collusion, like they
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  like they did the thing that they were accused of in order to try to
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  like you know, turn people away or distract people away from what the gamers
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  were attuned to. And because that, I mean, gamers are essentially like
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  professional autists. Like they didn't they didn't let that shit go and as well,
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  you shouldn't have. But now we have it happening again today. So
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  what and this is I just want to say that I was right, Like
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  I just want to point I'm just saying I was right the entire time.
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  So there have been ever since Gamergate was sort of like abandoned by a lot
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  of people, like they stopped using the hashtag as much, and and they
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  were like getting they thought that we were just going to get back to regular
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  life. And we went through the phase of Kakistan and the phase of the
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  skeptic community and all of that, and everyone thought that that was like you
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  know, different sort of branches or whatever. I was still saying that the
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  true goals of gamergate were never accomplished because what there was a divide within gamergate
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  itself or the people who used the hashtag the most and talk the most online,
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  and that was the people who thought, if we just get the ethics
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  problem solved, that'll be the end of it. And the people like me
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  that were like that will not solve the problem because the ideological possession of the
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  people is the problem. So no matter, it doesn't matter if you get
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  them to do that, because that's a symptom right like people who are ideologically
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  possessed by this worldview of you know, feminism. I guess, for lack
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  of a better word, they're not going there. They're going to be unethically
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  because to them, the ends justifies the means. They're just gonna be more
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  careful about it. They're just gonna be more clever about it. And in
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  fact, this is what ended up happening. I remember sometime after gamergay ended,
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  but before today, I want to say, it was like twenty seventeen,
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  twenty eighteen, I saw that Anita Sarkisian had gotten a room named after
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  her. I think it was at Google offices, and there was a photo
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  of her pointing at it with a smile interface saying look, I'm so honored.
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  Right, And bear in mind, before that, she and Zoe Quinn
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  had appeared in front of the United Nations to make a statement about online harassment
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  and that something had to be done. So this was like a shadow.
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  There was a shadow of censorship and control looming over us like the whole time.
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  And of course this had nothing to do with games journalism. So the
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  people who are only concerned with ethics, they just threw up their hands or
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  they didn't look into it anymore. And I was warning against this, and
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  I said, if Anita is getting her name put on a door meeting room,
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  that means that she is talking to the big wigs, like she's talking
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  to very powerful and influential people, and I bet she will be working jobs
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  in the space of game development. So it was one thing. And I'm
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  only using Anita as an example because I think that again, she is a
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  symptom, not the problem. It's one thing. If she's making videos on
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  YouTube with ridiculous feminist critiques like intersectional bell hook style feminist critiques of video games,
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  that because she just wants to criticize them. Like and it is to
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  get a sense of power and control over them. That's one thing. But
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  when she's actually talking like she's got the ear of the directors of franchises that
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  have been enjoyed by gamers for years and years, that's a completely different problem.
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  Because the thing is if she and this is the way that a lot
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  of these people operate, if they can't get you to change the way you
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  view your games so that you will demand change, she will simply go to
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  the next highest like whatever. It's always top down, so sa Gouda whoever,
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  the guy in charge of, you know, designing the games and designing
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  the direction, and then she will try to convince them because they believe.
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  And it makes sense if you can convince one really powerful person of your point
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  of view, one person who has tremendous influence, then you don't have to
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  convince millions of consumers or customers. Right. So this is and this is
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  exactly what happened. Because there was a there was a game that I absolutely
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  adored called The Last of Us, and I'm gonna use this as my primary
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  example. It was a father daughter story in a post apocalyptic world. It
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  was very good. The game was fun, to play. It had everything,
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  and it even had like like seriously decent gameplay. There was there was
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  multiplayer and everything. Right, it was kind of a complete package. I
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  believe it won Game of the Year, and they had a couple of really
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  like powerful writers on it. Amy Amy Hennig is a great writer. I
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  believe that's her name. I apologize for that wrong. She was also she
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  also and it was a woman, not that it matters, but she also
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  wrote the story for the Legacy of Kine games, which are also really good
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  and have a really good story, and the Uncharted games, which I also
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  enjoy as kind of popcorn flick style games. And Neil Druckman was like he
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  was working on the project with her, and she left the company for whatever
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  reason after that, I believe, and he was the main guy behind well
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  not only Uncharted Part four, which was weaker than the others, but also
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  the Last of Us part two, and the last was Part two was extremely
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  like divisive, right, and I said, well, of course this is
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  gonna happen. And so again gamer game hadn't happened yet. Nobody was talking
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  about sweet Baby and these consulting firms or anything like that. But I was
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  like This is clearly the influence of people who hate video games and especially hate
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  the gamers themselves. They literally did they kind of undid all of the good
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  faith that was built in the first game with that game. In my opinion,
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  now some people still liked it. I think it was because they're just
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  consumers and they're just like, I just want my new thing. But it
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  really wasn't like as good. It didn't even have any of the extra any
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  of the other sort of like you know, play modes, like the game
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  modes like multiplayer, didn't even have that. It was just a story,
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  and it wasn't a good story to boot. And so then I learned,
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  and I know this is going long, but I want to explain why I'm
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  saying all this. I saw Neil Druckman, the guy who was the director
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  behind the Last of Us Part two, He did a talk at a conference,
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  and he specifically did a talk about the woman who influenced his entire worldview
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  on gaming, or at least was the person that he considered to be the
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  most valuable asset in his storytelling, and that was Anita Sarkisian. And he
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  even used the fact that she claimed to have been harassed and given death threats
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  and you know, rape threats and all these other things. He used that
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  as like to further bolster his commitment to working with her. So it only
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  the thing is is that he Yeah, it was. It was so they
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  were establishing their war chest, their credentials to get in these positions of influence.
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  Yes, continue, sorry, yeah, so no, it's okay,
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  go ahead. No, Well, if you're not ready to finish, you
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  just keep going. Oh I shouldn't use the F word, sorry, guys.
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  Otherwise I should do the things right. Yeah, let's okay. So
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  I'm gonna pause it there. I'm just giving you a little bit of background
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  that this this thing we're about to get into is old, and I'm going
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  to explain how. And then we have this article the Mary Sue. So
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  the gamers are dead. Articles are coming, they are coming, and I
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  already I told you this is going to happen. But do the things first
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  and then I have like a super chow and then we'll get into it.
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  Well also will be before we go too far. Do you think you want
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  to play some of the clips from way back when, ten years ago before
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  gaming? Oh yeah, we were talking about here on honey, Badger Radio
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  for all of those who think that gamer Gate made us or something. A
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  year, you know, actually months before gamer Gate started we were talking about
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  this process. Well actually yeah, I think I think, uh no,
• 25:21
  we definitely it was like months before gamer Gate started. But I even remember.
• 25:26
  I don't know how old it is. But Karen made a video on
• 25:29
  her channel, girl writes what responding to Anita's videos, So like this is
• 25:34
  this is like when Anita was making videos. Is kind of when we started
• 25:41
  talking. I wasn't even with you guys at the time. I didn't join
• 25:44
  up until a little bit later I saw her. We knew the writing was
• 25:47
  on the wall. We knew operanda here, which is take over the space,
• 25:52
  turn it into a money making and virtue signaling, you know, like
• 25:59
  like virul is take over a cell and turn the cell membrane into a factory
• 26:03
  to manufacture more viruses. Take over the industry, turn it into a factory
• 26:08
  to manufacture more mind virus and give us money. And we knew this because
• 26:14
  we've seen this like this, this is something, like I said, it's
• 26:18
  happened with other pastimes that men have, And I think it's just that men's
• 26:22
  pastimes are more vulnerable than women's because women can tell other women to fuck off
• 26:26
  and what are they gonna do? Yeah, but men really really can't,
• 26:30
  honestly. And so we've seen this with men's pastimes in the past, and
• 26:36
  then the men's rights movement has experienced the same thing. We were the first
• 26:41
  thing in the chasm, ycause we are the counter argument. I mean,
• 26:45
  I know people are like, wow, can't you be friends with a feminists?
• 26:49
  All right, here's why it's not possible. It's because men's issues are
• 26:55
  the counter argument to the central premise of feminism that men. Yes, it's
• 27:00
  just as simple as that, because the counter argument that men oppress women is
• 27:04
  that the situation for men is worse than the situation for women. And what
• 27:08
  are men's issues but evidence of that? Okay, So we are their counter
• 27:15
  argument, which is why we're the first one in the hole while they were
• 27:18
  constructing their war chest, because they had to get rid of us because otherwise
• 27:23
  they wouldn't have their weapon to take over communities. And they also did it
• 27:30
  with the women's shelters. Believable. I know that sounds astounding, but they
• 27:33
  did. And Aaron Pizzy warned people about this, that they were taking over
• 27:38
  women's shelters. They were distorting the evidence, which means when you distort the
• 27:45
  evidence of a social issue, that means you had do not care about victims
• 27:48
  of that social issue, because you can't solve anything with distorted evidence. All
• 27:52
  they cared about is constructing a sales pitch for their takeover, for making money,
• 27:59
  excuse me, for making money, taking over and turning the system into
• 28:03
  another mind virus. So they this is this is over and over and over
• 28:07
  again. You see it now. You see it in gaming, and like
• 28:11
  when we saw Anita Sarkisian, we're like, okay, here we go again
• 28:15
  this gaming, you know, because we can we know what she's doing.
• 28:21
  She's stetting up a threat narrative around the culture in order to it's like it's
• 28:25
  like a pirate you know. Uh, put the boarding plank out, you
• 28:30
  know, that's that's what this is. This is what you know. You
• 28:33
  can see her in her pirate ship coming over there. You see the Jolly
• 28:38
  Roger up there, Yeah, the Jollie Roger up there, and you like
• 28:42
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  with Twitter. Did you see that? That was? Uh oh, yeah,
• 31:11
  I didn't. I didn't quite understand. I didn't quite follow. No,
• 31:15
  No, I yeah, I kind of missed it a little bit.
• 31:15
  Okay, do you want me to play? Okay, so ten years ago
• 31:19
  we had this video called ten years ago to the day, right, It
• 31:26
  doesn't have a date, but it was close. It was like two weeks,
• 31:30
  two weeks like it was I think February two weeks. So, yeah,
• 31:33
  February twentieth, we have this honey Badger radio Anita will save us from
• 31:37
  our sins and twenty fourteen. Yes, so we knew about this and we
• 31:45
  were talking about this and so like to basically like, you know, sort
• 31:51
  of send it home. I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't say
• 31:55
  Gamorgate lost because a lot of people were talking about whether or not they want
• 31:57
  or lost. But I think that they stopped fighting because they thought the fight
• 32:01
  was over and it wasn't. And that's why we're in this position now.
• 32:06
  So I'll play a little bit of this. This is Alison, this is
• 32:08
  you, and I'm not I'm not responsible for the production, so I didn't
• 32:14
  do this. So if the sound is bad, it's not my fault.
• 32:20
  I don't think we can we don't we have to pause anything once again.
• 32:31
  Today's topic this part of the show is going to be Anita can save us
• 32:37
  from our sin? Yep, Anita say? And then the call in number
• 32:43
  is one three, one zero three eight eight nine seven nine. So if
• 32:47
  you want to share with a story of how Anita came into your life,
• 32:52
  me move up a little bit, please do call in because we want to
• 32:57
  hear from you and get an award for a game developers. Wasn't that reduced
• 33:02
  game developers down to it's It was really bad problem within the industry that they're
• 33:10
  pandering a lot to like just to be so politically correct when I've found a
• 33:19
  lot of stuff a dreaming gaming is they wouldn't be so politically correct, and
• 33:22
  they they do something different. But now it's almost in a way poisoned.
• 33:29
  I guess about of dead air. Who Who's who's running this uh clown operation?
• 33:40
  I'm joking. Oh, it looks like we may have lost our host.
• 33:50
  No, I lose you I was just hiding. I was hiding.
• 33:52
  I wasn't hiding. Oh you were distracted or the brain and syphilis or something.
• 34:00
  But so could you repeat your last sentence because I'm having trouble. You're
• 34:05
  quite muffled cast at all. Oh, I talk very quietly. Sorry,
• 34:09
  Just get a little closer than Mike and talk a little louder. Don't do
• 34:14
  that unless I start eating my phone. But anyways, okay, don't do
• 34:20
  that. Well, that was a caller. Okay, let me stage is
• 34:22
  in here too. Saves Gerard, don't you guys? Remember be so politically
• 34:28
  incorrect, they wouldn't hander to certain demographics. But now you shouldn't be getting
• 34:32
  more and more poisoned by political correctness. And well, sometimes it can be
• 34:37
  good. It can be good in the same way as cheesecake is good.
• 34:40
  You know, it's good to indulge in a cheesecake once in a while,
• 34:44
  But christ, if you eat it all the time, it's just not good
• 34:46
  for you. Mm hmm. Is political correctness ever good for you? I
• 34:52
  mean, theoretically, is there a situation in which it's good? Can you
• 34:55
  think of one? Well, if you're gonna burn it off later with more
• 35:00
  politically incorrectness. So exercise in a way. Oh, I see, so
• 35:04
  it's sort of like resistance training. You do a little bit of political correctness
• 35:07
  so you can be more in politically incorrect. Later, political correctness was that?
• 35:22
  What? What was that? Me being edgy? You think? So,
• 35:28
  I don't know, I will I yeah, I don't know. I
• 35:30
  think I think you were correctness resistance training. Yes, so you could be
• 35:37
  more politically incorrect. That's what we used to call it, guys. It
• 35:39
  wasn't even social justice warriorism. What is it now? Woke? It's going
• 35:44
  to be something new, all the same thing. It's just cultural authoritarianism.
• 35:49
  I get to dictate the terms of the cultural landscape and you don't because reasons
• 35:54
  usually because I'm a victim of something, and the fact that they're making victims
• 36:00
  out of the people that they're dictating to is never considered in this equation of
• 36:05
  victim. Hud, Yeah, she doesn't you get Yeah, let's see go
• 36:09
  for a little bit more. Yeah. So I don't really have a lot
• 36:15
  of sympathy for it. I think people know when they're being me being mean,
• 36:22
  and you should maybe not be mean, but sometimes being mean can be
• 36:25
  fun. So I don't know where you draw the line, but political correctness
• 36:29
  just seems like bullying to me. I don't I haven't seen a situation in
• 36:34
  which you can anything. But maybe I could be wrong. Maybe maybe Hannah
• 36:39
  can explain to me a situation. So I don't know, Hannah political correctness.
• 36:50
  Honestly, I think political correctness in the stated sentiments behind it, where
• 36:54
  you kind of accuse everybody else of being sexist or racist or any other ist
• 37:00
  you can think of, is more projection than anything. It's the idea of
• 37:05
  policing language as a means of controlling people and using accusations of of of ill
• 37:13
  intent, of malice really where malice hasn't necessarily been displayed. And it's not
• 37:21
  to confuse political correctness here with ordinary human consideration for other people, like obviously
• 37:30
  if you know yeah, because I mean, if you know that there that
• 37:34
  a word is a slur against a group of people, then it's shitty of
• 37:38
  you to use that word. And everybody knows that. I don't think there's
• 37:42
  anybody, at least not in the first world, that is ignorant of the
• 37:46
  fact that you Although I don't think it should be illegal, and you can
• 37:52
  call me a spick in the comments if you want to, I'll be fine.
• 37:54
  I'll make it. I won't bleed out. Using a slur is a
• 37:59
  shitty thing to do. People who do it or are are doing it,
• 38:01
  you know, because they're careless of other people, are their means. But
• 38:05
  the idea that you can't talk at all without offending people is really fake.
• 38:12
  It's not so much an active consideration such as as refraining from using terms that
• 38:20
  are known slurs would be an active consideration, as more of an active control.
• 38:27
  Yeah, I would definitely agree with us. It's definitely an active control.
• 38:32
  But I remember the link that someone said to me, Oh god,
• 38:39
  about the game industry's response to Anita and just post for some somebody who was
• 38:45
  questioning Anita and he got banned from this game forum. Probably someone will chime
• 38:51
  in with the exact particulars of this, but it was like I was reading
• 38:53
  this is post after post after post White Night ring about how the exact same
• 39:01
  situation for men and women is different when it happens to women because women,
• 39:09
  I don't know, women, I guess just can't handle the trash talk.
• 39:13
  They just can't handle dealing with this kind of a situation where people are not
• 39:17
  being coollected with each other because why why can't women handle that? Like why
• 39:24
  I just want to pause and read super some super Child's really quick because they're
• 39:29
  going through my chat but you can see that, like it's we were having
• 39:34
  similar conversations ten years ago about this. So mister O three h three because
• 39:38
  it is five bucks and says, on this International Women's Day, I managed
• 39:42
  to piss off feminist trad cons and weaves, performing a hat trick like a
• 39:45
  true gamer. I'm doing my part. I'm doing my part too. And
• 39:52
  then I got another super chow from Be Bad Sad for ten to I always
• 39:55
  think you'd be Bad Sad and says I always find it fun to listen to
• 39:59
  Forgot in parts Lost of Yourself. However, cringey, I guess depending context
• 40:04
  of when and how it can be, how it can be kind of embarrassing.
• 40:09
  Uh yeah, I mean I hate listening to my own voice. I'm
• 40:13
  pretty sure that all of you guys hate listen to your own voice. But
• 40:15
  I'm not on this so it's okay. But if you watch the airplay documentary
• 40:20
  that I watch on Honey Badger Arcade, and also I had the uh the
• 40:24
  guy who created the documentary on my show. I was like a fireside chat
• 40:29
  two weeks ago or something. We are in that as well, and I
• 40:32
  would recommend you get to check it out if you want to really get some
• 40:37
  retro vibes going else. Did you turn off your camera for the Scipio and
• 40:40
  you're also muted by the way, are you there? Yes, I did
• 40:46
  turn off my camera for Scipio. Do you wanna do you want to leave
• 40:52
  it off? Well, just let me know because I have a I have
• 40:54
  a frame floating without a picture in it. That's yeah. So yeah,
• 41:00
  I actually was on the video as well, but I don't know if anybody
• 41:02
  wants. I'm pretty sure Scipio is the bigger draw. No, it's it's
• 41:07
  yeah, it's well, the reason why I brought it up is we did
• 41:10
  identify Anita and Anita's tactics before this all. Yes, yes, And actually
• 41:16
  I think that was the point where she was doing that grift where she poked
• 41:22
  the hornet's nest and then got a whole bunch of comments, negative comments,
• 41:25
  and I actually looked through them all I'm like, most of this, most
• 41:30
  of it pretty much is just well actually, and I'm like, so harassment
• 41:36
  is just people being really autistic or criticizing you. That's harassment, Is it
• 41:44
  okay? Because it was not like most of it was definitely not rape threats
• 41:49
  or death threats, and no, it's criticism. It was just people saying
• 41:53
  you're wrong about this. It's like Thunderfoot remember thunderfoots videos. They were like
• 41:59
  huh, they were a bit like long in the tooth and like repeated himself
• 42:01
  a lot, but they were He was just being almost like fucking autistically,
• 42:09
  you know, precise in his criticism without slinging insults. And she still called
• 42:14
  him, you know, I don't know, like a terrible human being that's
• 42:17
  going to kill her and rape the corpse or something. So it doesn't it
• 42:23
  doesn't really matter. It's what I'm saying. It doesn't really matter. How
• 42:27
  what is operanda? You measured you are a person or a group or community
• 42:31
  as a threat and then you gain power over them to see that over and
• 42:37
  over and over again. And the problem that this is this is very anti
• 42:43
  social behavior. It's sociopathic behavior. Like women who aren't sociopaths don't usually engage
• 42:47
  in this behavior. When there are some women who aren't sociopaths, maybe they
• 42:52
  have mental health issues that engage in this behavior, you know, but still
• 42:57
  it is totally antisocial and it's incredibly destructive. And the reason why I wanted
• 43:02
  to bring this up is actually it was it was funny to see how much
• 43:06
  of an edge lord I was back then. But you seem to have chilled
• 43:12
  the fuck out in your uh, in your old age oatage. Yeah,
• 43:16
  I don't know if I haven't. No, I don't think. No,
• 43:20
  I think I think it's about the same. It's just the the audio is
• 43:22
  different, and maybe you're you're it is a lot better, isn't it.
• 43:28
  I can hear it myself. You guys who complain about our technical difficulties,
• 43:31
  we have gotten significantly better over time, sound like much? But you did
• 43:37
  you just hear that? Yeah? There? Or maybe you we're just moving
• 43:40
  in line with technology, Like we're still on the bottom edge of it.
• 43:46
  We're on the edge of technology, but the technology is getting so much better.
• 43:52
  Yeah, our mics are like five years old. Maybe we'll start looking
• 43:55
  like CNN or something. I honestly, if we do, I think you
• 43:58
  guys should turn and run. Oh no, please, Yeah, but you
• 44:04
  could skip you back on. I was just whatever you want to do.
• 44:07
  If you want. I mean, otherwise, if because he's going to be
• 44:09
  moving around a lot, it might not be worth it. I'll play a
• 44:13
  little bit more of this because I think Sage gets in there and says a
• 44:15
  few things, and then we can like get into the story in the article
• 44:21
  so that that we can't see women as being capable of dealing with this kind
• 44:27
  of stuff. Do I go ahead of Campbell? This is safe? Go
• 44:35
  ahead. Oh By the way, guys, I just want you to know
• 44:39
  that the way that we structured our shows is we were all like with a
• 44:44
  tin can and a string like like there was we had absolutely no indication of
• 44:51
  who was talking when at all. Yeah, nothing I was like, I
• 44:57
  I R C chat or something was that you guys were doing? Or was
• 45:00
  that skype through like a game chat type thing, like one of those old
• 45:06
  game chat m like not Discord, but like one of the older ones that
• 45:10
  are Oh yeah, definitely an old one. We've gone through a lot of
• 45:14
  different technology, you know, all along, Yeah, this is what we're
• 45:16
  doing now actually is one of the best. Although I did listen to it
• 45:20
  again and I think it's uh, I think it's still sort of fades people
• 45:24
  back and forth a little which I don't know. You mean the the social
• 45:30
  stream, no, the video ninja. Yeah, I mean it was made
• 45:34
  by like one guy during COVID, so I think, and it's free.
• 45:38
  I mean, considering all that, I think it's pretty darn good. Yeah,
• 45:42
  and it seems to have functionality that Zoom lacks. I don't know how
• 45:45
  that works. Yeah, it was even Okay, go ahead. Yeah,
• 45:50
  we probably shouldn't continue to talk about the evolution of our technology, but yeah,
• 45:54
  think it's good to listen to this stuff to know where we were and
• 45:58
  our thinking. Yeah, really, it hasn't changed that much because the problem
• 46:02
  remains. There is nothing to stop this, and yep, the only thing
• 46:07
  that will stop it is receipts, please, ma'am. That's mm hmmmm hmm.
• 46:15
  Ok okay, just a reminder we are talking about gamer Gate two in
• 46:20
  case, because I do see some new faces here I dropped but okay,
• 46:22
  so just a little real quick. I'm in a couple of discords that are
• 46:28
  relevant. So one of them is the discord for Sweet Baby Inc. Detected,
• 46:32
  which I dropped the link in, and the other one is the discord
• 46:36
  belonging to one of the more vocal voices on YouTube. Kyel, who I
• 46:40
  absolutely adore. I think his videos are amazing, and so I'm in his
• 46:46
  discord and the Sweet Baby Inc Detected and I shared the link there because I
• 46:50
  figured they're both pretty much right like right in the thick of this. And
• 46:54
  it's sort of like, you know, their long boats have their boats have
• 47:00
  landed on the beach and they're getting off the boats and like where are we?
• 47:04
  And we're over here waving to them, like, look, we've been
• 47:07
  doing this for ten years. We're going to catch you guys up in case
• 47:09
  you're new. So just I'm basically just rallying the troops. Guys, just
• 47:15
  rallying the troops. Okay, let's listen to some more. And this is
• 47:17
  Sage Gerard, who, by the way, I talked to on the phone
• 47:21
  like about a year ago. He's doing good, so I'm happy for him.
• 47:27
  I like Sage. Yeah. But and now, the same I wanted
• 47:30
  to add into that was that when it comes to this weird culture with the
• 47:34
  white nightery that you're discussing, one thing that I really really get worried about
• 47:38
  is when they continue making these suggestions that in some way two demographics just can't
• 47:45
  relate on an issue, and when they take this notion that that two demographics
• 47:51
  can't relate whatsoever, they use this as an excuse to can continue shutting down
• 47:55
  opinions and making sure that in order for you to actually have some sort of
• 48:00
  qualification in any discussion or even to deliver criticism of any kind, you have
• 48:05
  to have experience in some scope that somebody else, you know, extipulates.
• 48:12
  So basically, you're you're you're you're given this, You're given this box that
• 48:17
  you're never allowed you're never allowed to get in, but you're told if you
• 48:21
  want to have any authority or any credibility in this discussion, you have to
• 48:24
  be in the box and experience something will never let you experience and will never
• 48:28
  let you relate to. So it's just it's just a bunch of shit,
• 48:31
  and it's it kind of ties into these a lot of the same kind of
• 48:37
  standpoint theory uh knowledge is social construct construct stuff, and how that can kind
• 48:44
  of get bent out of shape. But I really don't think that this is
• 48:49
  a in any way a healthy discussion, and it really has to be noted
• 48:52
  that the control of rhetoric has to stop. So there you go, Alison,
• 49:01
  there was a guest. I don't know who that was. Was it
• 49:04
  a guest that called in? I don't I wasn't there, and say Gerard
• 49:07
  and Hannah, we're all talking about this ten years ago yep. Now,
• 49:14
  essentially about political correctness, and we were discussing because that's what it was called.
• 49:19
  That was the that was the tool for taking over communities at that time.
• 49:22
  Mm hmm correctness, which became social justice warriorism, which became woke.
• 49:28
  I don't know why he has to keep changing it's always the same because they
• 49:30
  have to. They have to rebrand it. Well, it gets rebranded over
• 49:34
  time because people use different terminology. But it's it's all like this critical consciousness
• 49:38
  stuff, right, Yeah, it's cultural authoritarianism saying that you have to adhere
• 49:45
  to this set of beliefs. And in this case, I don't think they're
• 49:50
  very functional because they're basically just a caste system that decides who gets to talk,
• 49:53
  who gets to be catered to, who's concerns, and emotionality reigns supreme
• 49:58
  in terms of setting the tone of the of the community or the the industry
• 50:05
  or whatever. And it's like that's that is not actually fair. It's I
• 50:09
  mean, in my opinion, ethical value are superior to that for the simple
• 50:15
  reason is they refocus it on the individual's actions, not things that the individual
• 50:22
  can't change, like what they were born as. Hmkay, So I mean
• 50:25
  we got away from this, guys, We got away from judging people by
• 50:30
  what they were born as. That's called slavery. Yes, systems like that
• 50:35
  are are systems, cast systems and slavery systems, and we we should not
• 50:40
  go back to those systems. That's what cultural authoritarianism creates, and that's there's
• 50:45
  no good in that, none whatsoever. Mm hmm all right, So let's
• 50:52
  uh okay, so let me get let me get you, yeah, let
• 50:54
  me get you caught up on things. So so we got a re emergence
• 51:01
  of it today are not to day today, but like in the current year.
• 51:06
  In the current year, what happened was there was a game that was
• 51:14
  I guess, you know, long awaited. Let me see here, I
• 51:16
  got a super child. I should like find a timeline of this sweet baby
• 51:22
  inc thing, but I did get a super chat here. So I'm just
• 51:24
  readiabally quick eth thunder, says Brian. Yes, I remember well the armies
• 51:29
  of Kekistan, how high their banners flew. I remember how the feminist rage
• 51:32
  quit and the paugers thought evil had been vanquished forever, and it was not.
• 51:37
  So. Yes, that's right, they just they just re emerge from
• 51:43
  the crip eternal vigilance. It's true, it's true. So there was this
• 51:52
  game that recently released called Suicide Squad killed the Justice League. Everyone was very
• 51:55
  excited for it. Now, there were rumblings of a problem the gaming industry
• 52:00
  in the last decade. There were games that came out that were disappointments from
• 52:06
  one when one way or another. I mentioned the last most part two.
• 52:08
  I wouldn't say it was a watershed thing, but for me, that was
• 52:12
  a huge deal. But the the gaming public was still a little divided on
• 52:17
  it. There were people who were trying to essentially like make excuses for the
• 52:22
  choices that were made in the story. And I was saying, you know,
• 52:25
  though, this is all this is, This is not art. This
• 52:29
  is ugly, and it's ugly on purpose. And I was seeing this in
• 52:34
  other things, like, for example, some people might disagree with me on
• 52:37
  this, but I saw rumblings of this in BioShock Infinite. I saw this
• 52:42
  in Dishonored Part two. I saw this in some of the later Assassin's Creed
• 52:46
  games, Horizon Zero, Dawn, et cetera. And I'm sure that you
• 52:52
  guys can come up with some other examples that precede, you know, the
• 52:57
  or pre date the the just This League Killed the Justice League game that was
• 53:02
  made by rock Setti. But the reason why this game is important is because
• 53:07
  rock Setti, as a developer, historically had produced some of gaming's best games,
• 53:14
  essentially the Batman Arkham games, and there is specifically everyone who loves those
• 53:22
  games loves Batman Arkham Asylum, which is the first game, and Batman Arkham
• 53:25
  City, which is the second game. Batman Arkham Knight. I liked it,
• 53:30
  some people they like it, but you know, it just wasn't quite
• 53:32
  as strong as the previous ones. And then you have like the Batman the
• 53:38
  prequel one, I can't remember the name of it, Batman Arkham Origins,
• 53:43
  I think, and then those so those were kind of on the decline.
• 53:45
  But but those couple were very strong and you could tell, and this is
• 53:50
  the thing that's important Sark and lindsay about this that they were labors of love,
• 53:54
  like that the people who are making it really loved the lore and the
• 53:59
  setting and the characters that they were adapting. They want to do something as
• 54:02
  true to you know, the comics or whatever parts of the comics they liked
• 54:07
  as possible. They even got a lot of the old voice actors to,
• 54:12
  like, you know, from the animated series, to sort of reprise their
• 54:15
  roles in these games. So you could tell it was like a fan made
• 54:20
  It was a game made for fans by fans, okay, And of course
• 54:23
  these were also happened to be the majority of men. And then we we
• 54:30
  got what's going on? What are you doing? Are you? Are you
• 54:34
  fighting with somebody? What's happening? Oh? Sorry, I yeah, I
• 54:37
  knock the mute off, and then I punched the met mike. Oh okay,
• 54:43
  okay, like non intentionally. I wasn't like, oh my god,
• 54:45
  no, it's this takeover gaming. It's just a punch. No, no,
• 54:52
  I know, I know. I just thought maybe something fell, but
• 54:54
  no, so I'm good, okay, okay, nothing so so Rocks Rock
• 55:00
  SETTI makes this other game, Gotham Knights. I think it was the same
• 55:04
  devs. I'm not sure. It's not a great game, but but it
• 55:07
  wasn't like people weren't complaining about it. Like they didn't find it to be
• 55:12
  like ham fishing a message in It just wasn't a strong game. And then
• 55:16
  Suicide Squad Killed the Justice League comes out, and not only is it inferior
• 55:22
  to everything rock SETI ever did before, but the way that it treats the
• 55:28
  characters is almost completely the opposite of what rock Setti had done in the past.
• 55:35
  And so some people were wondering, why is this happening? And and
• 55:38
  then there was there were other games that were doing things that were really strange
• 55:42
  choices, like Starfield, you know, which was this very long awaited science
• 55:47
  fiction I don't know, open world thing, maybe an MMO, I'm not
• 55:52
  really sure. I never played it. But because I don't really care for
• 55:54
  Bethesda games, but I know that there are people who really liked them,
• 55:59
  and they were very excited for Starfield, and there are there have always been
• 56:04
  games that have been disappointments. Okay, this is not this is not what
• 56:07
  we're saying. But there are people that will try to tell you, oh,
• 56:10
  well, sometimes games are just bad. But you don't have to be
• 56:14
  a bigot. That's not the problem. Because like when Fallout seventy six,
• 56:17
  which I know Jonathan likes, but when that first launched, people hated it,
• 56:22
  and so it didn't do well. But nobody said, oh, it's
• 56:24
  because you know, they weren't cramming this message crap into it. It just
• 56:28
  it just wasn't a strong game. It wasn't like a good fit for the
• 56:31
  series or whatever it was that Fallout seventy six. Joldan is my husband,
• 56:38
  and he really liked Fallout seventy six. But the thing is that he's he
• 56:43
  is his own creature. Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Like some
• 56:47
  people are gonna like, hat it wasn't he because they, I don't know,
• 56:51
  fixing the problems and getting a game that was yeah in some manner.
• 57:00
  Again, my point is there's a difference between equality of something suffering because maybe
• 57:07
  you know, it just doesn't there's too many bugs, or the mechanics are
• 57:09
  bad, or or the budget is whatever. Like there there are legitimate criticisms,
• 57:16
  and any game of any budget size can obviously fail at those things.
• 57:21
  But the problem with Suicide Squad was that it was not only bad, but
• 57:27
  it was also a preachy mess and you know, and it was also like
• 57:32
  it didn't even pretend to like what it was doing. It was like it
• 57:37
  was like these people were being punished by writing this story for a game that
• 57:43
  they hated, and they did it in the most bitter and spiteful way possible.
• 57:50
  And and but basically the fans who had like given rock Steady all of
• 57:54
  this money and time, you know, and and uh and their good faith
• 58:00
  had been essentially turned on. And then when people you know, uh criticized
• 58:06
  they there were excuses made. They would say things like, well, it's
• 58:08
  games as a service, and games of the service is like, you know,
• 58:12
  generally a bad idea for whatever reason. Yet other games as a service,
• 58:15
  like Hell Divers too are extremely popular, but they also are not preachy
• 58:21
  messes. They're actually I think Hell Divers two is another example of a game
• 58:23
  that is clearly a labor of love, and people can tell when there's a
• 58:29
  labor of love involved and they will generally be more drawn to it. I
• 58:32
  think there was a game RoboCop Rogue City, and I don't even know if
• 58:37
  it was like I never played it, but people liked it, and it
• 58:40
  was kind of a small team of people who were fans of RoboCop made this
• 58:44
  game, and so but it wasn't like a big triple A or Heaven Forbid,
• 58:49
  Quadruple A release. It was a small, you know, studio that
• 58:52
  just was they just really like RoboCop anyway, So people stren't looking and they
• 58:58
  found that there was this was this pattern. They started to see that there
• 59:01
  was this consulting firm that was involved with a lot of these products that were
• 59:08
  failing, like Starfield, Horizon Zero, everything. It was Horizon, the
• 59:15
  second one I'm not sure, I don't remember, and Suicide Squad, among
• 59:17
  others. And it was called Sweet Baby. And so some people, myself
• 59:22
  included, we looked at their website because I already knew that these people,
• 59:29
  these these cultural tyrants or cultural vandals, they wanted to get into the creation
• 59:37
  of content so that they can try to engineer and control culture. And so
• 59:42
  I was very and that's why I said, Anita's involved in the development of
• 59:45
  games. That's why she no longer makes videos about them. And so people
• 59:49
  found out about this company called Sweet Baby, and a guy named guy named
• 59:55
  I gotta get his name, he's on my cabrutus, he's on my friends
• 59:59
  list Cabrutis decided to create a group kind of like a curated group, a
• 1:00:07
  curated list on Steam called Sweet Baby Inc. Detected, which essentially lists every
• 1:00:13
  game that Sweet Baby Inc. Is involved in, And he didn't do That's
• 1:00:17
  all it was. He was just like, I'm going to make a list,
• 1:00:20
  and people that worked at the company tried to get the group removed that
• 1:00:25
  tried to take them down. They lost their minds okay, and of course
• 1:00:31
  they were actually it was in danger of going down. But from what I
• 1:00:35
  understand last I heard, the group has been allowed to stay up on Steam
• 1:00:39
  and Cabrutis has since made a discord that and by the way, the group
• 1:00:44
  on Steam is over two hundred thousand members now. So it in like a
• 1:00:46
  couple of days, so much has changed. So Carbrudis has been on multiple
• 1:00:52
  streams. He was on side Scrollers, he was on the quartering today.
• 1:00:54
  Earlier today he's been all over and Grums, who was basically like this guy
• 1:01:00
  that was very very like involved with gamer Gay back in the day, has
• 1:01:04
  just been all over Twitter posting constantly talking about all of the like essentially unethical
• 1:01:09
  things that are going on. But it's not just in the journalism, it's
• 1:01:14
  in the actual like production of games. So you have an industry full of
• 1:01:20
  people that are influencing the production of art, which is games that hate the
• 1:01:27
  audience or don't believe the audience is important. And this is where in short,
• 1:01:34
  you know, in short, this is kind of where we are right
• 1:01:37
  now. And now we're starting to get to the current day. Yes,
• 1:01:40
  and now we're getting to the point where the inevitable gamers are not your audience.
• 1:01:45
  Articles are going to come out and I have this. So there was
• 1:01:49
  a couple. The first one out the door was Kotaku and a woman whose
• 1:01:57
  name I can't remember, but it doesn't matter. She was in the discord
• 1:02:02
  yet yesterday or the day before, and she was sort of hanging around,
• 1:02:06
  lurking in the discord talking to people and she wanted to like she went in
• 1:02:10
  there under the guys of hey, so what are you guys doing here?
• 1:02:14
  You know, kind of like when we did the ICMI and there were these
• 1:02:17
  journalists from GQ magazine that came and they were like, we just want to
• 1:02:22
  do some interviews. And then there was the other time we were in the
• 1:02:23
  UK. Yeah, And then there was the other time where we were in
• 1:02:27
  the UK and that woman from Democracy Now or whatever it was called, wanted
• 1:02:32
  to do You remember that she never released her interview with me. She never
• 1:02:38
  did, probably because she couldn't use it. Yeah, because I was talking
• 1:02:44
  and I got her to agree with some stuff. So she's like, no,
• 1:02:46
  I'm never going to release this or well she didn't say that, but
• 1:02:49
  she never did. When I asked her, I said, no, don't
• 1:02:51
  release it. I'm like, okay, yeah, it was a cool conversation.
• 1:02:55
  You mean, essentially you captured a conversation between two people who were discussing
• 1:03:01
  a complex issue and it was just too reasonable to release of course, yeah,
• 1:03:07
  you know, okay to keep. Well. So anyway, so she
• 1:03:14
  was in the discord and Cabrutus was saying to everyone, Hey, you know,
• 1:03:17
  there's somebody from Kataki here. If they tell you who they were,
• 1:03:21
  Supposedly, he said, I heard there's someone here. Can you please let
• 1:03:25
  me know, you know, if you learn who it is, send me
• 1:03:29
  a DM so that I can, like, maybe they I can talk to
• 1:03:30
  them. Because he's still he's still kind of doing this in good faith,
• 1:03:34
  like, oh, they want to know what we're about, and I'll share
• 1:03:37
  the info, like not really thinking you know what's going to happen. Of
• 1:03:40
  course, yes, I know, I know. It's okay, Yeah,
• 1:03:45
  I know, but she never ended up talking to him anyways. So what
• 1:03:51
  she did was she basically just like hung out in there, talked to a
• 1:03:53
  couple of people, went back to her website, went to Kotaku and wrote
• 1:03:59
  an article, an opinion piece about it that was just all crap. It
• 1:04:03
  was all lies and it was all presumptions, and she was saying, you
• 1:04:08
  know, they're they're not. Actually well, actually the Mary Sue is gonna
• 1:04:12
  basically give us the same story. We could just look at the Marry Sue
• 1:04:15
  article. So on the screen here is a Mary Sue article. It was
• 1:04:16
  also one by PC gamer, which also came out. We give hits too,
• 1:04:21
  you know, yeah, I don't know which one. I mean,
• 1:04:26
  I think the Marry Sue. We have a little history with them, so
• 1:04:29
  we could just do the Marry Sue. So yeah, and it is,
• 1:04:31
  and it is. We do have a history with Mary's to the Marry Sue,
• 1:04:34
  and it is gamer gay related because that's what got us in trouble.
• 1:04:39
  Well, I mean that's part of it. That's part of it. So
• 1:04:42
  you know, there is that. Okay, let me just I'll get into
• 1:04:46
  it, but let me just make sure I don't miss any super chows or
• 1:04:48
  anything. Do you do you said you have the fundraiser open again, Yes,
• 1:04:54
  I do, and I do have some thank yous, like I just
• 1:04:56
  to get oh good, get into that in a bit later because I got
• 1:04:59
  to actually look at my computer to do that, which means you can't see
• 1:05:02
  the oh dogo. Okay, yeah, so I'll wait for a little bit
• 1:05:09
  maybe. Uh, I don't know how how how long are we gonna go?
• 1:05:14
  Well, I mean whenever you want to stop. I mean I gotta
• 1:05:15
  pick Lindsay up later. So we don't want to go super well, okay,
• 1:05:17
  fair enough, all right, but you know, let's say in about
• 1:05:19
  fifteen minutes, I will turn it off, the doggo cam off, and
• 1:05:23
  I will do our our thank yous. I do have one. I know
• 1:05:27
  that. I don't know why, but but uh, Scipio was super like
• 1:05:30
  it just occurred to me because blurry I metaphor about how Anita Sarkesian is like
• 1:05:38
  a pirate coming across, you know, with the jolly roger up. Yeah,
• 1:05:41
  you know, we're like, I don't know people who are trying to
• 1:05:46
  stop the pirates, you know, like we are the ones who are trying
• 1:05:50
  to trying to warn people. Those are pirates. Yeah, and we're the
• 1:05:57
  ones who actually have the equipment to oppose the pirates. Except for whatever reason,
• 1:06:01
  people would prefer to be boarded by pirates then talk to us. Well,
• 1:06:08
  they'll be like, oh, but but they're probably well meaning pirates,
• 1:06:12
  right, yeah. But the women, I'm like, no, they're they're
• 1:06:16
  using that to get That's how they get on board. They're like science.
• 1:06:19
  The sirens, you know, like, don't but the singing is so pretty.
• 1:06:27
  I just thought like, because that's sort of like, there is only
• 1:06:30
  one there is only one weapon that you can use against this narrative, the
• 1:06:38
  truth that gives it context, this narrative that women are being destroyed by communities.
• 1:06:43
  Well, you know where did this start? It started with women are
• 1:06:45
  being oppressed by society. Okay, well, and then they just filter down
• 1:06:49
  to the smaller and smaller groups in society that they want to take over.
• 1:06:54
  And the way that you oppose that is you have to get right into the
• 1:06:58
  central conjecture and say no, that's not correct. And I'll say it right
• 1:07:02
  here. Women are not oppressed by men, full stop. They are oppressed.
• 1:07:08
  They are not, and can I got the receipts for that. But
• 1:07:13
  the main thing is that for anybody who believes that, how do you falsify
• 1:07:17
  it? Like, if it is a belief that describes reality, that means
• 1:07:23
  it's in the realm of science. That means, how do you falsify it?
• 1:07:28
  A conjecture? Causal conjecture in science has to be falsifiable to be considered
• 1:07:34
  scientific. And you can't just say, well, there are some things in
• 1:07:39
  science you can't falsify. Yeah, when we're talking about things that are so
• 1:07:45
  abstract, Yeah, maybe maybe that's the case, but they still have utility.
• 1:07:50
  You can't just randomly invent causal relationships that are unfalsifiable and then say,
• 1:07:58
  oh, but this is okay because these you know, we don't know if
• 1:08:01
  if all metals have a melting point or something like that. No, we
• 1:08:06
  can't. We can't falsify evolution or something. Well, no, some things
• 1:08:12
  are incredibly difficult to falsify in science. That doesn't mean we stop trying,
• 1:08:16
  okay, because you haven't even started with men oppressed women, you haven't even
• 1:08:20
  started, Like, yeah, I just want to point it out. That
• 1:08:26
  is the weapon that they use. And until we get a critical mass of
• 1:08:30
  people who know sail that weapon, we will always be vulnerable to these pirates.
• 1:08:36
  H always. Okay, that's just my little rant, and take it
• 1:08:42
  away, Brian, listen, Oh didn't you want to do some thank yous?
• 1:08:45
  No, no, I'll do that in a bit o. Okay,
• 1:08:47
  okay, let's get in the article. Okay, this is from the Mary
• 1:08:49
  Sue. It is entitled sweet Baby Inc. Is under attack due to conservative
• 1:08:55
  conspiracy theories. Because this is how this I mean, immediately, let's poison
• 1:08:59
  well, right, like, what what does that even mean? Conservative conspiracy
• 1:09:02
  theories? But let's get into it. Sweet Baby Inc. Has come under
• 1:09:08
  attack as a Steam group with thousands of members has called for boycotts of games
• 1:09:13
  the company has worked on. The company has not done anything wrong though,
• 1:09:16
  and is merely a victim of conservative conspiracy theories and manufactured controversy. Okay,
• 1:09:24
  can we unpack this a little bit, and and what we did was we
• 1:09:28
  were absolutely right to do it, yes, and eating it too. We
• 1:09:32
  totally did this thing. We're absolutely right to do it. And telling anybody
• 1:09:36
  that we did this thing that we were absolutely right to do. So we
• 1:09:40
  did do it, but we were right to do it. Telling anybody that
• 1:09:42
  we did it is a conspiracy theory. Even though we're saying right now that
• 1:09:45
  we did do it, but we were absolutely right to do it. But
• 1:09:47
  you saying that we did it is a conspiracy theory. Yes, of course.
• 1:09:54
  If if you go to Sweet Baby, Inc's website, they tell you
• 1:09:59
  what they do. That's how people found out. So we knew that,
• 1:10:02
  and you know they they do. You remember, it is another thing that
• 1:10:05
  we predicted or we knew about, like years ago. We did a story
• 1:10:10
  on the New Show about sensitivity readers, very long, like a couple of
• 1:10:15
  years back, Okay, and I said, or at least whoever was talking
• 1:10:19
  about the time, but I know I was among them that this was going
• 1:10:21
  to be used to change literature, to essentially an unravel literature itself. And
• 1:10:30
  not only have they done that. So like, if you're a new writer,
• 1:10:33
  like Allison is a writer. If you're a new writer and you want
• 1:10:36
  a book released and you're getting ready to put something out and you are going
• 1:10:41
  through a publishing company and that publishing company uses sensitivity readers, then your book
• 1:10:46
  is fucked. That's just like whatever your vision was, whatever, unless it
• 1:10:50
  like falls in line with their extremely narrow and ever shrinking set of goalposts.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah, you're not going to be able to release your book in the form
• 1:11:00
  that you wanted, if at all. Oh, it's it gets worse.
• 1:11:03
  There are books that have been sensitivity read and the author ran a foul like
• 1:11:11
  they somebody figured out one something to start bullying her and it's usually her now
• 1:11:16
  about and she's canceled even though she went through a sensitivity reader found something that
• 1:11:25
  was just maybe slightly off, they focused on it, swarmed her, destroyed
• 1:11:30
  her career, totally tanked her career. There was one woman whose career was
• 1:11:34
  tanked over the phrase chocolate skin. That's it. She can't write anymore.
• 1:11:42
  You can't describe it. Yeah, she she can't write anymore, or the
• 1:11:45
  writing that she done is now almost invisible because she has been canceled. And
• 1:11:53
  I'm like watching this and I'm like this is this is a community infested with
• 1:11:57
  the desire to destroy Yes, this has nothing to do exactly all of the
• 1:12:02
  all of the brown people who are going to be destroyed by the phrase chocolate
• 1:12:06
  skin, Like it doesn't is creamy thighs also racist? Am I as am
• 1:12:15
  I supposed to be destroyed by that phrase? Okay, like really, but
• 1:12:21
  all of the people it's not about that. It is about finding something to
• 1:12:27
  destroy someone else's success. Yes, a part and the joy of doing that,
• 1:12:31
  joy of destruction, that's what it's about. Ye. With these people,
• 1:12:38
  with the ringleaders, at least, I'm fairly certain that this is not
• 1:12:42
  motivated. And now we're finding studies coming out that yes, dark triad personalities
• 1:12:47
  are attracted to overt virtue signaling. So is it that far an estimation or
• 1:12:55
  a jump to say that they get attracted to this like blood in the water,
• 1:13:00
  and then they destroy something full of self righteousness like you. What more
• 1:13:06
  wonderful thing is? There's this quote that really impacted me. There's nothing more
• 1:13:12
  seductive than being able to destroy another person self righteously. Yeah, with every
• 1:13:19
  belief that you're doing the right thing. Yeah, that's deductive. That is.
• 1:13:26
  It's it's intoxicating. It's like a drug. And I imagine that dark
• 1:13:29
  tied people are well, we know that they are attracted to online virtue signaling
• 1:13:32
  or just virtue signaling, but I'm sure they're also attracted to using virtue signal
• 1:13:38
  and the singling to destroy stuff. And we we have to we have to
• 1:13:43
  look at this. It's part of being human and we need to figure out
• 1:13:45
  a way to stop it. And as I said, right now, they're
• 1:13:49
  using that narrative that that narrative that we all seem to buy into, or
• 1:13:54
  most people seem to buy into, that constantly pits women as victims of everything.
• 1:14:00
  For a dark, tried person interested in virtue singling, interested in a
• 1:14:03
  self righteous destruction of something, it's easy for them to go in and say,
• 1:14:12
  this place harms women. I'm the one who can stop it, and
• 1:14:15
  I need to be able to destroy anybody in it. Yep, and Nago
• 1:14:20
  is about to go nuts. That's a great and sweet Baby employs sensitivity readers
• 1:14:29
  like that's that. It's on their website, so they are on your writing
• 1:14:33
  team. So if you're designing a game, because that's what they want to
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  be involved in. And I know why too, because their interests in video
• 1:14:42
  games comes from the notion that they're They believe that because games are interactive and
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  they're not like films, which you, like, you are passive participants in,
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  right, you just watch the movie unfold or read a book. Because
• 1:14:56
  they are video games, they are interactive, and the interactive layer for them
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  is like, oh, there is this extra level of immersion, and the
• 1:15:04
  immersion is something that is more useful for us to essentially like you know,
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  propagandas with and so they do. And that's and that's also like why they're
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  so big on virtual reality too, because they think that virtual reality is even
• 1:15:21
  more immersive, which means it's there's more opportunity for propaganda. I mean,
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  you know, so this is like why they're in They're they're involved. Yeah,
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  and and the the if you're wondering, because like there have been a
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  lot of people making defenses, like the Mary Sue who have come forward and
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  said they're not actually that involved or they're not doing what you're saying they're doing
• 1:15:45
  when they're literally in the credits of the games as not just like on the
• 1:15:49
  writing team or which they are the majority of the writers in many of these
• 1:15:54
  examples, but they're also like the lead you know, authors or whatever it
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  is that will be at the top, like the people who make the big
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  decisions about the stories. So this is not small, they're big, And
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  it only begs the question, why are you all lying to us about what
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  they're doing when we can see what they're doing, And it's why does it
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  bother you that we know aren't you proud of what you're doing. No,
• 1:16:20
  they don't want you to know what they're doing. That's that's what it is,
• 1:16:24
  right. They don't want you to say, like, the thing is
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  that even though they will acknowledge the thing is being done, they don't want
• 1:16:30
  anyone to say that it's wrong. The conspiracy. It's not about saying that
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  it's being done, because they'll say it's being done. They say right here
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  that it's being done. That's not the problem. The problem is that we're
• 1:16:43
  saying it's being done and it's bad. So they're using the word conspiracy in
• 1:16:47
  the most it's like complete distortion of language. They're not even using it.
• 1:16:51
  They're just basically saying, well, conspiracy equals bad, therefore this equals bad.
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  They don't even not even using the proper definition of conspiracy. They're just
• 1:17:00
  using the emotional load that it carries. Yeah, they're basically starting from the
• 1:17:05
  assumption, like, you know, you're not supposed to care. It's not
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  that big a deal, right, But if you do, then it's a
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  problem bad. Yeah, you're definitely not supposed to consider it bad, right
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  right. Okay, So so I did want to do the thank you Mike.
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  Okay, I'll go Okay, so I, oh, by the way,
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  guys, give my doggo a little cheer in the chat. He's not
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  he's not on the camera right now, but go ahead. No, I
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  know. The reason why I want to do that is because he was a
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  really good boy. The the uh, the per later guy came and he
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  actually pretty he kept it together. He's just like, oh, there's a
• 1:17:57
  dude coming and he's knocking at the door. Okay, And that's great because
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  that is not to lose his ship when the pator guy comes. So,
• 1:18:06
  you know, a little little hand for Scipio. He's reached a milestone.
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  Given Pats in the chat. Given Pats, and I'll fill the screen with
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  know, your very good thoughts, so that we can respond to it.
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  Com slash just the tip to do that and I want to thank Richard Bierre
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  Richard Bierre. I hope more people join him. Hint hint, twist
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  twist Is that a hint? Yeah? So a little hint. Yeah,
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  feed the Badger dot calm slash support. So get those super chows in as
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  calm slash support and do it, do it now, all right? And
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  also Skippy, Yeah I got, I got some some people are doing that.
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  Yeah, okay. So another thing I want to say about this,
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  how about this, send some cheers to Skippy through the superchow and feed the
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  comes back, I'll give them some liver treats if you guys put some some
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  money in the in the hat for us, all right? All right?
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  So so okay, a couple of things about this paragraph. The the a
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  sweet Baby. Sweet Baby Inc. Has come under attack as a Steam group
• 1:19:54
  with thousands of members has called for boycotts of games the company has worked on.
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  So how is people deciding what to do with their money and attack on
• 1:20:02
  Sweet Baby Inc. I mean it isn't obviously, but these people don't believe
• 1:20:08
  in private property, Like they don't believe that you own your money and that
• 1:20:11
  you could make an educated decision about whether or not you want to give money
• 1:20:15
  to people who hate you, and they don't like that. It's like Hannah
• 1:20:19
  Cox's concern over the complement economy and that men, you know, be discerning
• 1:20:25
  how they deliver their compliments. It's like, well, you know, you
• 1:20:28
  don't really know. Men aren't obligated to give you compliments, So why do
• 1:20:32
  you think you have an opinion on what a man's decision like where and when
• 1:20:38
  a man decides to give you compliments? This is the mentality. This is
• 1:20:42
  the difference in mentality. Women believe that they are owed things in general.
• 1:20:46
  I'm not saying all women. Yeah, I think they are owned things because
• 1:20:50
  they need and you know this isn't it. This is actually just a neutral
• 1:20:56
  statement because you know, the the the parent that's pre primarily tasked with taking
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  care of the very vulnerable human larva, you know, sort of has to
• 1:21:05
  be a little bit unpleasable perhaps, you know, and see things in terms
• 1:21:12
  of needs. That's the way women are. So if Hannah Cox has a
• 1:21:16
  need, then you have to provide that for her. That is the justification.
• 1:21:23
  You aren't entitled to decide. And men are like, but what if
• 1:21:26
  I don't think she's earned it? Because men think in terms of merit,
• 1:21:30
  which you know, it can also have its negatives too, because sometimes people
• 1:21:33
  need a leg up, they need to stop and actually have someone give a
• 1:21:38
  shit about them, just genuinely before they get traction again. You know.
• 1:21:43
  So a purely merit focused vision of the world is also a little bit of
• 1:21:47
  a problem. In my opinion, I think it's just a balance. So
• 1:21:51
  but men are like, well, I don't feel like you've earned the compliment,
• 1:21:55
  and women like Hanna Coox are likes, but I need them. Yeah,
• 1:21:59
  this is the same thing here. These games have earned my money and
• 1:22:02
  they're saying, but we need your money in order to well, that's how
• 1:22:05
  awful you are, so give it, you know, exactly, Yes,
• 1:22:10
  extre com pirates, because that's who they are yep, yep. And on
• 1:22:13
  top of that, okay, so there's nothing wrong with calling for a boycott,
• 1:22:18
  but I don't think that's what people are doing. And even if they
• 1:22:21
  were, it doesn't matter. Like I could tell you, guys right now,
• 1:22:24
  boycott Pizza Hut. It's your choice as to whether or not you're gonna
• 1:22:27
  do it. If you listen to me, just because I said it,
• 1:22:30
  that says more about you than me, really, But it doesn't matter.
• 1:22:32
  Like they're they're treating a call for boycotts even though that's not happening because I'm
• 1:22:38
  in the steam group and I'm in the discord and no one is saying you
• 1:22:42
  have the boycott. In fact, everyone is in there by choice because they
• 1:22:45
  are also feeling the same way that I am feeling, which is there's something
• 1:22:49
  really suspicious going on behind closed doors, and it does the rabbit hole does
• 1:22:55
  get pretty deep. You guys might have heard of a little company called black
• 1:22:58
  Rock, you know, which is the probably like the largest company in the
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  world that invests billions of dollars into various initiatives, and they have stock all
• 1:23:11
  over the place, and they are a big reason why Sweet Baby Inc.
• 1:23:15
  Gets paid, right, They get that ESG money. That's where the money
• 1:23:19
  comes. It's not from the sales. It's not from us the people,
• 1:23:23
  the consumers, Like I mean, Sony is offering refunds for Suicide Squad because
• 1:23:29
  of how bad it is and the fact that without an active community like this,
• 1:23:34
  a game like that dies. You know, like a game's a game
• 1:23:39
  that is online as like a part of what it is cannot like remain relevant
• 1:23:45
  if there is no one online, Like if there's no community, there's no
• 1:23:47
  game. You know, it's like any mmo, right, Like Alison,
• 1:23:50
  you're playing Final Fantasy fourteen right now, and it's probably huge because lots of
• 1:23:55
  people are playing it, but in like ten years, maybe nobody will be
• 1:23:58
  on there anymore. And that means that the servers will just get shut down
• 1:24:01
  and now the game is effectively dead because there's no single player or anything.
• 1:24:06
  Right, So Suicide Squads a community dropped, like it was like very very
• 1:24:15
  let's say, anticipiably anticipated, And now I think there's like I don't know,
• 1:24:19
  last time I saw it was like two thousand people are playing it,
• 1:24:21
  which is like that's dead. That's a dead game. And so and it's
• 1:24:28
  not even the fault. The sweet Baby detected. It's the fault of the
• 1:24:30
  game, like the game is shit and it's woke on top of that.
• 1:24:35
  And I think that the wokeness is an extra bad problem because you feel like
• 1:24:43
  the time and energy that was invested into cramming all of this like preaching nonsense
• 1:24:47
  into the game could have instead, like whatever they spent on that could have
• 1:24:53
  instead been spent on making the game good. But instead they prioritize that shit,
• 1:24:57
  like so you're getting your message even though the the game itself is a
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  turd. So you know, that's another reason why people are not happy.
• 1:25:04
  And of course they are the consumers for now. We still live in a
• 1:25:10
  system where people spend their money to buy the products they want and sweet Baby
• 1:25:15
  and apparently the Mary Sue and other rags don't like that, so go ahead,
• 1:25:24
  yes, we're gonna say. What am I reading more say? Oh
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  yeah, no, no, go ahead a couple of things. But this
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  is the first thing. What happens I think is that the reason why these
• 1:25:34
  people are engaging with this material and creating this material, like the fire in
• 1:25:40
  them, the passion in them, is actually the message rather than the construction
• 1:25:45
  of something entertaining or beautiful even truth, to be honest, because there's not
• 1:25:50
  much truth to the message that they're pushing either or even humanity in my opinion.
• 1:25:56
  So they're not really motivated by these kind of higher ideals that you'd expect
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  from art. Nor are they motivated by the ideals of art itself, which
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  are beauty, truth, engagement, entertainment, those kinds of things. So
• 1:26:11
  what brings them to these subjects and what brings them to this construction of things
• 1:26:16
  is the message and the passion of their message. But the message itself is
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  really it's not It doesn't open people up to truths about human nature. It
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  actually closes them down because it is I only want to say religious message,
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  because religious messages can be very more positive than this. It is a cult
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  message. It is a tribalist, like the most hateful forms of tribalism kind
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  of message, a cast message, a message in which people don't understand each
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  other, can't understand each other, and need to be put into groups and
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  turned into a hierarchy of merit. It's like based on biological factors, so
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  not even based on what you earn through your actions, but just based on
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  what you were born. You have to be pleased in a hierarchy of merit
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  that is incontrovertible, and that's really a human truth. That is the death
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  of human truth, is the death of human connection. It's the death of
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  understanding yourself. So that is even an artistic message. You know, like
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  you could draw something with the crudest stuff, but if it has a heartfelt
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  message opens up your mind to understanding what it is to be human. It
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  is beautiful in that sense. That's not what they're constructing. That's not what
• 1:27:36
  brings them to this artistic endeavor. What brings them to it is to be
• 1:27:43
  able to push their message. And the message itself closes people down, closes
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  them off, puts them into a position where they can't their actions don't matter,
• 1:27:55
  their thoughts don't matter. They occupy a caste system based on their birth
• 1:27:59
  right that like closes people down. So this' that's that's why the stuff is
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  awful. It's soulless and empty because it is soulless and empty, it's usually
• 1:28:12
  beautiful. It's still soul is is and empty, and it's the ultimate kind
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  of I don't know, like not even it's like the ultimate kind of late
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  Bronze age temple art. If that makes sense. Like everything's about establishing the
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  hierarchy, establishing who rules over you, establishing where and when you're supposed to
• 1:28:34
  talk, establishing what your personal worth. And on the bottom is everybody who's
• 1:28:41
  a slave's who's entirely defined by their labor for others. And it's great,
• 1:28:45
  Yes, it is, okay, it is. It is the the it
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  is the message of the ziggurat. M okay. But anyway, so my
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  ultimate point is that this because they bring that mindset, they aren't creating beautiful
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  art and they aren't things that resonate with people, and they aren't creating things
• 1:29:10
  that are entertaining at all. That's why it sucks. And it's just going
• 1:29:15
  to continue to talk more. And the thing is that they when they get
• 1:29:18
  into a space, they remove this meritocracy, They remove appeal to the audience,
• 1:29:24
  they remove merit in the work that's being done. They replace it all
• 1:29:29
  with this ziggurate morality. And they're doing it everywhere, like this dis corruption
• 1:29:36
  is everywhere, and it's like we're watching this process and this is the process
• 1:29:45
  quite likely that caused the systems collapse in the Bronze Age. Is this is
• 1:29:51
  termites in every single bit of lumber in the ship. Eventually, it's just
• 1:29:57
  going to collapse because because we can't exist without meritocracy. We can't exist without
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  the expectation of beauty, of truth, of skill. Yeah, you know,
• 1:30:12
  of the construction of artistic merit, like, we can't exist without it.
• 1:30:17
  Yeah, you can make you can make a moral case for beauty.
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  Actually, yeah, I think that the beauty is a moral thing. And
• 1:30:26
  I think these people want to subvert so they don't believe in that stuff vanilla
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  syrup. So I want to I want to say something to everybody. Okay,
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  I have my dogg O on the screen. He is sadly breferent of
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  liver treats and super bereatht thank you, no, thank you, that's all
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  right. I want to be corrected fire merit when it comes to pronouncing things,
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  all right, So no bereft. He is bereft of liver treats.
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  So I want you guys to go over to feed the badger dot com slash
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  just the tip and give me a super chow, and I will give him
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  it now? Feed the Badger dot com slash just the tip. All right,
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  let's read some more. So those not well versed in the video game
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  industry likely have never heard of Sweet Baby before, even though it has worked
• 1:31:30
  on games like Spider Man two, which was terrible, God of War Ragnarok,
• 1:31:33
  which, oh, by the way, I just want to mention really
• 1:31:36
  quick another prediction I made. I warned David Jaffey, who was the creator
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  of God of War. We had him on our show a couple of times,
• 1:31:45
  and I warned him about this woke shit back then. I mean,
• 1:31:46
  I didn't call it woke shit back then, but I warned him, and
• 1:31:50
  they eventually it came for his game franchise, and now they came for him,
• 1:31:56
  they did, but they also came for his franchise, and now this
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  God of War Ragnarok is his legacy. And even he was upset about it
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  when it first came, because there was something they did and got to War
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  Ragnarok. There's a scene in the game that kind of shits on the games
• 1:32:10
  that he was directly involved in, like the whole thing that he built,
• 1:32:14
  and he was not happy about it. He complained and vented on his stream,
• 1:32:19
  and of course he because he's playing it safe with these these people who
• 1:32:23
  hate what he does and they kind of hate him deep down. He ended
• 1:32:27
  up coming out later and basically coping like, oh, well, you know,
• 1:32:30
  I guess, I guess I don't understand where they're coming from of me.
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  I mean, times change, you know, I'm not a bigot,
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  you know, And I was like, dude, they did this to you
• 1:32:39
  and you're still making excuses. You don't have to do that. You don't
• 1:32:43
  have to do that. You can just you can just not support it.
• 1:32:46
  Be like, you know what, that's not my game. I'm not that's
• 1:32:48
  it. Like, I'm not thrilled with what they did. I gave this
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  up. They fucked it up, and now it's just dead. Like that's
• 1:32:57
  like what that is your legacy? Like, dude, this is the thing
• 1:33:00
  that I see it. I see it as art. Like if I make
• 1:33:04
  something, you know, and it's mine and I worked on it and people
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  like it, and then someone else takes it and they like rot it from
• 1:33:14
  the inside out, I'm going to be pissed. It doesn't matter. I
• 1:33:17
  don't care what people think that they might think that that person was right or
• 1:33:20
  wrong it was, you know, it's it's my work like this is This
• 1:33:25
  is what I mean when I say they're iconoclasts. They destroy what other people
• 1:33:30
  have made, and then they stand on the ashes and they and they claim
• 1:33:33
  to have improved it. And then they if you dare say I actually think
• 1:33:38
  that you destroyed that thing, they try to make you out to be the
• 1:33:41
  bad guy. So I'm you know, I'm sad about it because I enjoy
• 1:33:45
  the old god of war games. But David Jeffy should have fought to protect
• 1:33:48
  his IP or at least at least if he couldn't legally do anything, he
• 1:33:54
  should have at least said this is what I think. You guys are wrong,
• 1:33:58
  This was a bad move or whatever. I thought that was very disrespectful.
• 1:34:01
  He probably would have gotten more support than he thought, but whatever,
• 1:34:04
  he let that happen. And then Alan Wake two, which you know I
• 1:34:10
  heard was garbage, but people are calling it Alan Woke to anyway. So
• 1:34:15
  those are just some of them. I also have their website up here too.
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  This is the Sweet Baby website. But maybe we'll look at it later
• 1:34:20
  if we have time. However, it fulfills one of the lesser known roles
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  in video game development. Rather than being a developer, it serves as a
• 1:34:28
  consultation firm for other developers when game projects are in various stages of production.
• 1:34:32
  Baby Sweet, what do you mean, sweet Baby? Can you even remember
• 1:34:36
  the name of your company that you're reporting on? Written by Ai? Yeah?
• 1:34:42
  Right? Can you tell us about the But the thing is AI has
• 1:34:45
  to reference something else, so it must have referenced the Kotaku article maybe,
• 1:34:50
  and if there was AI that was yeah, yeah, probably all the AI
• 1:34:55
  all the way down. Okay, yeah, okay, Baby Sweet, will
• 1:34:59
  come come in and review all the material and essentially ensure it provides a cohesive
• 1:35:03
  narrative. The company might point out inconsistencies and the game plot are or offer
• 1:35:09
  tips to further enriched gamers experiences. All bullshit. They are sensitivity readers and
• 1:35:15
  it's on their website. Let's go to their website really quick. I'm gonna
• 1:35:17
  show you what they do. Is a narrative development and consultation studio based in
• 1:35:24
  Montreal. Oh yeah, by the way, Alis, I'm sorry to tell
• 1:35:27
  you all these people are from Canada. This is all Canadian shit. This
• 1:35:30
  is all Canadian shit. Our mission is to tell better more empathetic stories,
• 1:35:36
  not really empathetic empathetic to themselves, because it's all narcissism. While diversifying and
• 1:35:42
  enriching the video games industry, we aim to make games more engaging, more
• 1:35:45
  fun, more meaningful, more meaningful, of course, by the feminist definition
• 1:35:49
  of meaningful, and more inclusive, which means exclusive by definition for everyone,
• 1:35:56
  because it presumes that the games industry was not inclusive before they came along and
• 1:36:00
  rescued it from itself. Okay, so this is just like a hint at
• 1:36:09
  what it is they actually do. All right, so they're lying about that.
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  Go ahead, Okay, so we do have a super chow. Oh
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  yeah I did. I did nobody nobody. I did see that thing through
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  for Skippie though, Come on something. He was such a good boy.
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  He deserves a treat. I have him right here. I see him.
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  I see him. Yeah he's listening. It's actually really getting into it with
• 1:36:31
  your rant. He was just a little bit. He was just like,
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  yeah, go, Brian, go yeah. JoJo's used to me ranting.
• 1:36:44
  He just sleeps through it. I'm always ranting at home, doing his own
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  little cheer for you. Yeah. Here, Halloween, halle hallow hat hat
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  howling. Gee, howling. No, you would think that English isn't my
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  first language, but it is howling. Yeah, but you guys say Z
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  instead of Z. So who knows. Maybe my brain is like just failing
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  to wire properly because I listened to Americans all the time. Yeah, maybe
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  we're messing with your brain. Okay, so be bat Sad gave us five
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  dollars and fifty dollars. I think there was a bit of support. Thank
• 1:37:30
  you, and says speaking speaking on owner inspiration teachers taught on teaching as an
• 1:37:35
  example to explain their methods or God of War? Is that what GW stands
• 1:37:40
  for taught on teaching? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that makes sense.
• 1:37:45
  Thank you for that. Like this is his Brian's right, this is his
• 1:37:49
  legacy, and he's been it's been shiphun By. Yeah, I mean like
• 1:37:56
  like they The other thing that he's known for is a game called Twisted Metal,
• 1:38:00
  which was like this really fun kind of car combat game. Now Jaffe
• 1:38:04
  is about my age, so he's a generation xer, so I can see
• 1:38:08
  what it is that he's pulling from his childhood to put into his game ideas
• 1:38:14
  that make them special. Okay, the people who are doing this are millennials
• 1:38:18
  and zoomers, okay, And so it's not that that makes them worse for
• 1:38:24
  it, but I think they are coming from a different place to people who
• 1:38:27
  created the new God of war games. Now, Twisted Metal was made into
• 1:38:29
  a TV show that did reasonably well, and I ended up watching the whole
• 1:38:32
  thing. I thought it was all right. It wasn't as bad as you
• 1:38:35
  would think it would be. I thought it was pretty good considering. But
• 1:38:40
  that means that the license might be used in the future to make another game,
• 1:38:45
  but Jeffee won't be involved. But I bet you, sweet baby Will,
• 1:38:49
  is he gonna get up? Is that gonna be the final straw,
• 1:38:53
  because that's the game that kind of put him on the map, was Swisted
• 1:38:55
  Metal. I think so. I don't know, But again, if he
• 1:38:59
  doesn't, he doesn't stand up for what he created at the very least again,
• 1:39:03
  just even if it's just on his little island and he's shouting into the
• 1:39:06
  world saying I don't like what you guys did with my franchise, and no
• 1:39:11
  apologies, just just say this is what I think and that's it. But
• 1:39:15
  he ended up backpedaling and cooking to them, and now they're just gonna like
• 1:39:19
  he's lost. Basically, he's got nothing. He's got nothing, and he
• 1:39:23
  doesn't even have what he created, so you know, yeah, it's a
• 1:39:29
  shame. Okay, Okay, let's let's get Yeah, let's keep going a
• 1:39:33
  little bit more. It hardly sounds like, oh oh, I read the
• 1:39:38
  Superchow already. Yeah, it hardly sounds like anything to be enraged about.
• 1:39:43
  So they're like, they're now they're doing the whole WHI are you mad?
• 1:39:45
  Like you know, eure upset not me. I'm writing this article. I'm
• 1:39:48
  clearly bothered, but I'm not as upset as you are. It hardly sounds
• 1:39:54
  like anything to be enraged about. The company provides a vital function improved games
• 1:39:58
  behind the scenes, and likely doesn't at the recognition it deserves for its work
• 1:40:01
  on major games. So basically, we're giving it recognition by creating this Steam
• 1:40:06
  group. But that's not the recognition we're talking about, right. However,
• 1:40:13
  angry gamers are currently trying to detect every game associated with Sweet Baby to encourage
• 1:40:17
  others not to buy it. The reason they believe that sweet Baby is secretly
• 1:40:21
  poisoning their games with diversity, Again a straw man argument. This is mout
• 1:40:27
  and Bailey shit like. Games have always had diversity. The problem is is
• 1:40:31
  that that was never like the sole defining component, and it wasn't there to
• 1:40:36
  satisfy somebody's narcissism, which is what Sweet Baby does. There's literally games that
• 1:40:44
  have self inserts from the team at Sweet Baby in it. So imagine being
• 1:40:50
  okay, go ahead, go ahead, and I'm sorry. There is a
• 1:40:53
  difference between having diverse characters, which is something that everybody who does art wants
• 1:40:59
  no offense or art are is art by people who make the same thing over
• 1:41:04
  and over again, do the same character over and over again, same character,
• 1:41:08
  same opinion, same looks over and over again. That's crap art,
• 1:41:12
  right, So diversity is even in art to begin with, because art is
• 1:41:17
  about exploring absolutely everything about the human condition, every every expression of what it
• 1:41:26
  is to be human. So diversity is baked right in. There's a difference
• 1:41:30
  between that and trying to push the ziggurat of diversity. Okay, like this,
• 1:41:40
  this group is on top, this group is below them. This this
• 1:41:43
  is a caste system. There's a difference between diversity and turning diversity into a
• 1:41:46
  caste system. Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's what they're pushing.
• 1:41:53
  Okay, that's a huge difference between the two. Yeah, and there's a
• 1:41:58
  truth, a little bit of a truth rapped up in a big lie.
• 1:42:00
  So the little bit of truth is they'll say something that no one would disagree
• 1:42:03
  with, right, like, oh, you know, it would be nice
• 1:42:08
  to have games that have women in them, right or people of color or
• 1:42:12
  whatever. Nobody's going to disagree with that because that has always existed, Like
• 1:42:16
  pac Man is yellow, Like there's always been characters of color in video games,
• 1:42:21
  Like you know, Ms pac Man existed, she was a female character.
• 1:42:27
  Like this is like Mario is Italian? Does that count? I don't
• 1:42:30
  know, Like is that still white adjacent? No idea, go ahead.
• 1:42:34
  The ultimate point that I'm making is it isn't about diversity at all. No,
• 1:42:38
  it's not. It's not pushing a particular moral framework using diversity. Yes,
• 1:42:45
  yeah, they're using it to push push the framework. This this kind
• 1:42:50
  of cast system, which incidentally leaves the court, the gov Corp on top.
• 1:42:57
  They're on the top of the zigger deciding who gets sacrificed. But that
• 1:43:00
  is the point, Like that that is ultimately it. It is not about
• 1:43:04
  diversity, because again, I mean people who are artists. You should be
• 1:43:08
  proud of this. You've always been diverse in your thinking. You've always been
• 1:43:13
  wanting to express the most about human nature possible. Like I said, it's
• 1:43:17
  baked right in. You don't need to change that about art. What they're
• 1:43:23
  doing is they are using diversity to push conformity, Yes, clients and authoritarianism.
• 1:43:31
  There's a complete difference between those diversity and for conformity. That is absolutely
• 1:43:36
  correct. One percent. Uh. I got a super child from Carly Ellison,
• 1:43:44
  who so thank you. Carly. I know she says for five dollars,
• 1:43:48
  you are wasting effort on these loser in cell men who don't deserve any
• 1:43:51
  concern. You should be contributing to those who truly deserve support instead of tho
• 1:43:56
  these loser gamers who should be doing productive things instead. The only way to
• 1:44:00
  get these losers to be productive is to take games away from them, to
• 1:44:02
  force them to actually be productive adults who don't complain about little things? Are
• 1:44:08
  you thank you? I'll find out who Carly Ellison is. Okay, Carley
• 1:44:14
  like no offense, but he just went through my website. Are you kidding
• 1:44:18
  me? This? Oh? Oh oh good? I think it is one
• 1:44:24
  read the next one. All right, Uh, Richard Bierre says, human,
• 1:44:30
  give me a liver tree skipio. Oh look did you see? Did
• 1:44:34
  you see? I did? Excited? All right, are you ready?
• 1:44:38
  Are you ready? Make sure he can We can see him eating it because
• 1:44:42
  he's kind of like, oh, the cats come in and take it.
• 1:44:45
  Here, I'll give one to the cat. That one ended up in Skipio
• 1:44:50
  too. I think this is this might be a bit of a losing battle
• 1:44:54
  here. Yeah, the cat came over to me, so I'm giving to
• 1:44:56
  you a ten. Well, thank you for the five dollars. Uh,
• 1:45:00
  Harley Ellison and Richard Pierre. Yeah, there we go. I gave the
• 1:45:02
  cat it's liver treat to sit down. Oh now he knows the liver treats
• 1:45:06
  are here. Oh so, oh well, I guess that's all the show
• 1:45:15
  you get. That's all the show you get, folks. Oh, he's
• 1:45:21
  trying to get the liver treat from the one the cat took. They like
• 1:45:26
  liver treats, by the way. Oh Jojo likes livers too. Yep,
• 1:45:30
  there's for some reason livers anything really stinky. I'm sorry, yeah, broth,
• 1:45:38
  that's like it's it's definitely stinky. It smells like farts. Let's face
• 1:45:43
  it, okay, it dog just loves it. He's just like, yeah,
• 1:45:46
  pour that all of it. It's like it's like yeah, yeah,
• 1:45:51
  okay, all right, uh okay. So it's unclear how sweet Baby got
• 1:45:59
  on the Far Rights radar. Somehow it did, you know, you know
• 1:46:03
  the guy and not that it is like not for nothing because I don't think
• 1:46:08
  this is relevant information. But of course these people always make me have to
• 1:46:12
  like say these things. The guy who started the discord is from Brazil.
• 1:46:15
  He's a Brazilian guy. So but anyway, it doesn't matter. These people
• 1:46:20
  don't care like they I just want to qualify something about what I said about
• 1:46:24
  Carly Ellison. I'm of course not going to do anything at all and never
• 1:46:29
  would. Well, I'm just finding it remarkable that this individual is trusting me
• 1:46:34
  to this level. But you know what, It's fine because I'm trustworthy.
• 1:46:39
  But I'm just saying that's crazy. I'm actually curious if this is some if
• 1:46:44
  this has been a long term troll by irregular Yeah, possibly like like quarn
• 1:46:51
  Strong. Okay, but anyway, yes, we'll get it, get it.
• 1:47:00
  Let us, let's let us continue. Okay, So the Far Rights
• 1:47:05
  radar, right, but somehow it did. The company's employees discover, Yeah,
• 1:47:09
  because these people play video games like it's all they did was a little
• 1:47:14
  bit of research. Literally, it's in the fucking credit to the game,
• 1:47:17
  like you can look it up. It's not it's not hidden. The company's
• 1:47:23
  employees discovered are still active Steam group called sweet Baby Inc. Detected. The
• 1:47:27
  group currently has over two hundred and ten thousand members based who are trying to
• 1:47:31
  dis Yeah, it's still active. Even though they tried, they try to
• 1:47:36
  take it down, but Valve did not did not do it, at least
• 1:47:41
  not yet. You know, anything, anything can happen, but for now,
• 1:47:45
  the Steam group still exists two hundred thousand members. The discord still exists,
• 1:47:48
  something like almost coming up on like fifty thousand members or some crazy number
• 1:47:55
  on Discord probably the biggest discord I'm in, and I'm in quite a few
• 1:48:00
  so anyway. Yeah, Still, it's clearly there are people who feel a
• 1:48:04
  way that are like, you know, interested in this, so they're trying
• 1:48:10
  to compile a list of every game associated with sweet Baby in any way.
• 1:48:13
  Well, there's only one way the sweet Baby could be associated, and that
• 1:48:16
  is by being sensitivity readers and consultants, which means they control the direction your
• 1:48:23
  game goes. By the way, however, most of its forums and discussions
• 1:48:26
  have been wiped and locked. The ones that remain up are cryptic discussions,
• 1:48:30
  such as one titled they are talking about us and another titled I'm gonna have
• 1:48:34
  to delete all posts for now. In these posts, group members express frustration
• 1:48:40
  that the media is reporting on them and fear the community will be deleted by
• 1:48:44
  Steam. No, because they know how you guys act, they know how
• 1:48:47
  you operate. Okay, can I just okay, I want to apologize for
• 1:48:50
  my cat. That's the purring sound by the way. Okay, Oh yeah,
• 1:48:56
  I hear it. Yeah, you hear it. Okay, he is
• 1:49:00
  discovered that I have the liver treats, and now I won't that I will
• 1:49:02
  not be rid of him. So okay. The fact that they're going,
• 1:49:13
  they are attempting to engage in this draconian behavior is exactly why people are afraid
• 1:49:21
  of them. Yes, right, I'm worried about being talked about by them
• 1:49:27
  because they know that they have the ability to silence them and their concerns.
• 1:49:32
  And it's it's amazing to me that like the the the sheer audacity, And
• 1:49:38
  I have to remind myself that these are probably sociopathic, dark triad personalities.
• 1:49:44
  So sheer audacity is basically what they run on, which is sort of based
• 1:49:47
  in a way, if they weren't both so fucking like, if they weren't
• 1:49:55
  so awful to deal with. But yeah, they are wanting to push a
• 1:50:01
  message in the medium that these people love. So they really love the artwork
• 1:50:08
  constructed in this medium. They want to destroy it, make it crap,
• 1:50:14
  destroy all of the merit like, because it ultimately that's where it's going.
• 1:50:16
  I remember I talked about how they focus on the passion is the message not
• 1:50:21
  the actual medium. Yeah, so they don't put that effort in. They
• 1:50:28
  don't feel like putting the effort into the story, into the art, although
• 1:50:30
  other people may in order to create a perfect vehicle for that. But he
• 1:50:33
  comes soul ess, right, So they are going to destroy the medium in
• 1:50:39
  order to push their message. And the people who loved the medium are saying,
• 1:50:43
  you guys, we don't want you to do this, because that's what
• 1:50:45
  they're gonna do. The message is prominent. If they choose between the medium
• 1:50:50
  and the message, they're going to choose the message, even though some might
• 1:50:54
  say that the medium is the message, but they will choose the message and
• 1:50:59
  they will sacrifice everything for that message. Okay, Yeah, the people who
• 1:51:04
  love the medium are watching the vandals come in, and of course the vandal
• 1:51:11
  spokes people are like, well, that's just a conspiracy theory. You're just
• 1:51:16
  a bunch of all right. No, these are people who love the medium.
• 1:51:19
  They don't want to see it destroyed, and you will destroy it.
• 1:51:24
  You are going to destroy their temples, you know, Yeah, you're gonna
• 1:51:29
  you are coming in like the freakin' hun to sack Rome. And then if
• 1:51:34
  you have the audacity to be like, well, well whoa well, like
• 1:51:38
  uh uh I can't believe that you you're you're you're treating us like uh,
• 1:51:44
  like we were sinister, and like yeah, you're sacking Rome, a friend,
• 1:51:46
  what do you think people are gonna treat you as? Like mm hmm.
• 1:51:51
  And it's just it's just the audacity of this to actually be pursuing this
• 1:51:59
  vandalism them and this silencing and this censorship at the same time as they're playing
• 1:52:04
  the victim. Isn't that like astounding? It's just yeah, and people get
• 1:52:11
  suckered into this and it's amazing to watch. I'm like, yeah, this
• 1:52:15
  is this is why we we don't we don't ever get Nivana Nirvana on Earth
• 1:52:18
  here because you keep getting suckered in by the sociopaths who play the victim as
• 1:52:24
  they're dismembering you. Like maybe maybe if you're feeling pain, Maybe if you're
• 1:52:31
  feeling pain, the person causing the pain isn't the victim of you. Yep,
• 1:52:39
  under it just putting it out there, floating it, you know,
• 1:52:42
  might be something you could chew over, like the cat is chewing over at
• 1:52:45
  Livertree. All right, keep going, how about some I know it's okay,
• 1:52:50
  how about I give you some context. So I'm gonna share this with
• 1:52:59
  the with the folks at home and you. This is the coldmember. The
• 1:53:04
  sweet Baby person said that they had vague posts like I'm gonna have to delete
• 1:53:09
  all posts for now. Well here's the post by Shadow Alex. It says
• 1:53:14
  I'm gonna have to delete all posts for now. Well, Steam support just
• 1:53:16
  sent me a message that this group is receiving a lot of reports and might
• 1:53:21
  get deleted. So to avoid this, I'm just gonna delete all my posts
• 1:53:27
  because if this group falls the curator page falls as well. I'm sorry guys,
• 1:53:30
  but for now, no more new post until it's resolved. So basically,
• 1:53:34
  what they're saying is we should stop talking at all because anything could be
• 1:53:40
  taken and twisted and used. So they were getting mass reported on the group
• 1:53:46
  by these whack jobs and they were trying to get the group taken down,
• 1:53:53
  so that's why they were deleting the post. It's not vague, they're saying
• 1:53:56
  it right there. Now. What I think the Mary Sue person is suggesting
• 1:54:01
  is that they have something to hide, you know, like, oh,
• 1:54:04
  you don't have anything to hide, do you. But that's not really what's
• 1:54:09
  going on, because they understand how journalists work. They understand that you are
• 1:54:14
  like going to use your control over language and rhetoric to get people removed,
• 1:54:20
  and they don't want that to happen. So that's the context on that.
• 1:54:25
  That's on my Twitter followed me at a Badger arcade. There was something else
• 1:54:30
  too that I thought was kind of interesting, But the woman who wrote the
• 1:54:35
  original Kotaku article is like insane. But they did end up going through and
• 1:54:45
  approving of the group. So anyway, let me read a bit more of
• 1:54:49
  this. We may not finish this article, but there oh oh, and
• 1:54:53
  then there's like you know that the Sweet Baby was it? Like there was
• 1:54:57
  a video of the woman who runs it, and then blaz Kim Belair I
• 1:55:00
  believe her name is where she is saying that the way that you get your
• 1:55:05
  games changed the way you want is you have to terrify the developers, terrify
• 1:55:12
  them, and it's a shakedown. Basically, it's a shakedown that says,
• 1:55:17
  if you don't do what we want, we're going to destroy you. We're
• 1:55:20
  going to destroy your reputation. And this is another example of this is that
• 1:55:25
  Anita Sarkisi and herself when CD Project Read was launching Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven years
• 1:55:30
  back, I think it was twenty nineteen, she said that CD Project Read
• 1:55:33
  had to change some stuff otherwise she was going to essentially bring her on as
• 1:55:39
  a consultant. So hire me or I ruin your company is basically what she
• 1:55:43
  said. So what were you going to say about that? I was going
• 1:55:45
  to say that I have discovered that someone was impersonating Carly Ellison or Carly Ellison
• 1:55:53
  Carly, Oh, it wasn't really Carly Ellison. No, it wasn't really
• 1:55:58
  Carly Ellison, which I should have realized. I guess, well, it
• 1:56:01
  does. It does seem. It does seem like a really over the top
• 1:56:06
  post. And I don't know that Carly would have spent five bucks to send
• 1:56:09
  us that, So yeah, exactly, it's it feels it doesn't have the
• 1:56:13
  ring of truth. But yes, that was an impersonation of Carly Ellison,
• 1:56:16
  well imposter, of course. I guess I'm pretty gullible to have bought into
• 1:56:21
  it, like Carly Ellison sent sent to her financial information. I should have
• 1:56:29
  had a doubt at that. I should have had not not like like I
• 1:56:32
  don't get like the the stuff that's really private. I just get like a
• 1:56:40
  name and yeah, and that that. I wouldn't have thought that she would
• 1:56:45
  have trusted me that far. But no, it was actually somebody who was
• 1:56:50
  pretending to be Carly Ellison. So the plot thing, okay, all right,
• 1:56:55
  all right, So so what was the purpose of this whole group to
• 1:56:59
  begin with? Kotak who's Alyssa? Mrconte, That's the woman who I was
• 1:57:01
  talking about, the Kataku writer. So this is how you know, they're
• 1:57:05
  just talking to each other, right, Like these people are not Alyssa Mrconte
• 1:57:10
  wrote the initial Kataku article and now PC Gamer the Mary Sue and you know,
• 1:57:16
  wait for it, all the other ones are gonna come out and they're
• 1:57:18
  gonna chime in on this, and they're probably all gonna have the same story
• 1:57:21
  and be on the same page. So Kotaku's Alyssa Murconti was able to get
• 1:57:26
  into the group's Sweet Baby Inc. Detected discord, where group members shared their
• 1:57:30
  conspiracy theories about the company is a diversity equity and inclusion consultation firms. That
• 1:57:35
  is what is most likely a discord that's open to anyone. Yeah, it's
• 1:57:41
  not secret. You can just click a link and get in there. Because
• 1:57:44
  that discord is probably gonna get nuked. Yeah it may because discord is uh,
• 1:57:49
  they're probably gonna they Yeah, they probably will get taken down at some
• 1:57:53
  point. So okay, So while group members shared their conspiracy theories, but
• 1:58:00
  the company is a diversity equity and inclusion consultation firm that is essentially coming in
• 1:58:03
  and destroying games, are forcing diversity into them. All that is true.
• 1:58:08
  That's that's not a lie, some exaggeration. It's not a conspiracy theory.
• 1:58:12
  It is a conspiracy fact, that's what and well, I'll get into that
• 1:58:16
  later. But these members blame Sweet Baby for every recent game failure. Well,
• 1:58:20
  I would say the ideology is the blame, and I think that they
• 1:58:24
  would agree, But the Mary suit is trying to straw man this position.
• 1:58:28
  So for every recent game failure, although one of the only games it has
• 1:58:32
  worked on that had disappointing results was Suicide Squad, Well I would, I
• 1:58:36
  would. I mean, there are some that are financial successes, but that
• 1:58:40
  doesn't mean that they were necessarily great games Like the Barbie movie made over a
• 1:58:45
  billion dollars, but it is not a good movie. It just made a
• 1:58:47
  lot of money. That's you know, like a game could win awards.
• 1:58:50
  This is another thing they do a lot. It was like this game won
• 1:58:53
  all these awards and accolades, but it didn't sell. That doesn't mean it
• 1:58:57
  was a good game. That means it wasn't a good game. That means
• 1:58:59
  that your elitist art critic snob friends liked it, you know, but that
• 1:59:03
  doesn't mean it was good anyway. So the only game that had disappointing results
• 1:59:12
  was Suicide Squad. Disappointing by the way puts it very lightly. That was
• 1:59:15
  a catastrophic cratered failure. It was so bad. It was like, like
• 1:59:20
  they're offering refunds for this game. Sony is offering refunds. That's something that
• 1:59:26
  never happens. Further conspiracy theories include claims that Alan Wake two Saga Anderson would
• 1:59:31
  have been white if it weren't for Sweet Baby. I think she was originally
• 1:59:35
  supposed to be on paper, that Sweet Baby added pride blags, pride flags
• 1:59:40
  to Spider Man two, a lot of them, and that the company has
• 1:59:43
  race and identity group quotas for every project it is involved in. This it
• 1:59:47
  does. It's on the website. You can go there and look. A
• 1:59:49
  lot of the discord isn't even about Sweet Baby, but has turned into discussions
• 1:59:54
  and memes from conservative men. They're not conservative men, dude, Why are
• 1:59:58
  you saying that? Not even just men. There are women in there,
• 2:00:01
  and they're just people who who don't want like they're so okay. So what
• 2:00:08
  you seem to be assuming is that if someone wants a game that is fun
• 2:00:14
  first without a preachy, progressive COMMI message in it, they must be conservative.
• 2:00:20
  So because like that's what it means. Now, like this isn't really
• 2:00:26
  a two. This is why I don't like them a both sides thing,
• 2:00:28
  because these people have constructed they've constructed the armies. Essentially, they are right
• 2:00:34
  and they are like a minority. They're the underdog, even though they control
• 2:00:38
  all the most powerful institutions. They got ran on their side and anyone else,
• 2:00:42
  regardless of what they believe is their opposition. Everybody, Like if I
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  say, oh, you know what, I saw John Wick four and I
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  thought it was a good movie, that would to them, Oh that's a
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  right wing you're a right wing guy for that. It's like what because because
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  Ken Reeves is not like a personal color to you, I'm and he's like
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  part Hawaiian or something like. But that's that doesn't matter. Like it's like
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  if you like something normal with like a male character and he's heterosexual, you
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  know, like he doesn't cross any boxes and it's a good story. It
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  doesn't matter what it's about. It doesn't have to be about Jesus. It
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  doesn't have to be about like World War two. It could be anything anything
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  else. Pedophile rings, yeah, it could be. Yeah, it could
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  be a film about a guy that used to work, you know, in
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  for homeland security that breaks up a pedophile ring and they'll be like, that's
• 2:01:31
  a right wing movie and they've literally said that. So it's not really because
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  they that the sides are as defined as they claim. It's because they have
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  defined their side and everyone else is the opposite. That's why they're saying.
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  There. You know, these are people from all over the world, like
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  from like where politics doesn't matter, like it doesn't, it's completely different context.
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  But this person this I don't know where the mary suit is. I
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  assume this everybody who agrees with the diversity ziggurat, so the cast system based
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  on diversity, and everybody else who isn't part of that system. Those are
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  the two sides. Yeah, this is this is an art. This is
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  something I said on Twitter. This idea that men's rights activists and feminists are
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  on two different sides is wrong. And the reason why it's wrong is because
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  feminists constructed the sides, yes, exactly, and then they insisted people take
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  their side, right, but they made the sides. They made through this
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  narrative that men oppressed women. They constructed two sides, and they said that
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  they completely illegitimized anybody on the side that wasn't with them, and ultimately I'm
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  on the side. I don't think oppression is a reasonable way to look at
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  the relationship between the genders, between the sexes. Sorry, I don't think
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  it's I don't think it's reasonable. Mm hm, doesn't add anything to it.
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  I mean, I'm pretty sure, like I throughout all of my travels,
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  I've come to the following conclusion. Men and women do not escape each
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  other. So oppression is a ridiculous thing to say about the pussonship between the
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  two. Okay, and I will I will go to bat for that both
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  ways. But I because I don't believe that men oppressed women, I'm forced
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  on a side that they constructed. They constructed the gender war, the sex
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  war, and man. People take a side, and the side, of
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  course that is supposed to everybody takes, honestly is women. At the same
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  time as they say, oh, no, you're on side man, everybody
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  is inclined to take side woman. And what they say is, no,
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  you're on side man if you don't do everything we say and give us money.
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  Yeah, of course nobody wants to be on side man, because that's
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  the way human's human. Like, the most ridiculous thing is to praise yourself
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  for loving women. Yeah, join the club every days. Everybody does.
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  Even misogynists love women, let's be let's be frank. Yes, so,
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  but their idea is okay, well you don't love women if you don't agree
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  with us. You see how that's just so manipulative. It's like the yeah,
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  oh no, I know, I know, legend ever created. Yeah,
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  they have constructed the sides. Yeah, they they've set the terms,
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  they've set the rules and if and they determined whether or not you pass yes,
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  And that's how they determine the sides. And it's like, no,
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  I'm not part of this system. That's why I call myself a non feminist
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  and not an anti feminist. It's like, no, I think your entire
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  system is relevant and pointless and shouldn't be acknowledged as something you. You even
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  can be anti mm hmm. You could even be opposed to because you are
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  forcing your forced I refuse your dichotomy entirely. Goodbyes, madam, good day
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  to you leave with your dichotomy. I refuse to take a side in your
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  framework. Okay that I think that's where you're coming at too. Yeah,
• 2:05:26
  yeah, yeah, I am so well. We've been going for a little
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  over two hours, so we we can like do a little bit of a
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  summary. I want to. I'm going to be following this and making content
• 2:05:38
  regularly about it on Honey Badger Arcade, so I think that it's a it
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  fits better in there because it is about games. But I really wanted to
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  like mention this with Allison. I was trying to find a post by this
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  woman Mercade or whatever her name is. I think it's on on this on
• 2:05:55
  here. Let me see, Uh saw her name earlier, Yeah, Alyssa
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  Murcan Tay. So I'm going to like go to her Twitter if I can
• 2:06:03
  find it, and I will show you what because I thought this was kind
• 2:06:08
  of interesting about her. Where's your Twitter? Where's your Twitter? Bitch?
• 2:06:15
  Sorry, I'm okay, never mind, I'll do it another way. Hold
• 2:06:20
  on a second, I'll just look it up here, because she is there
• 2:06:27
  much more of this. No, it's it's a bit. It's a bit
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  longer, like they go into what they really do, and I don't know,
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  I feel like I'm just dragging this on and on, like honestly,
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  yeah, people have Diary of the Pen, Yeah they do. They just
• 2:06:44
  they just keep going, uh and and really it's all like they've already been
• 2:06:47
  Like I said, they've already been called out. They're they're making claims that
• 2:06:51
  just don't make sense, like they're saying that, you know, these guys
• 2:06:54
  just don't want women in video games at all. And it's like, come
• 2:06:57
  on that, like we this isn't about that, we know, Brian,
• 2:07:01
  Yeah, these men, yeah, these men behave why they they cannot be
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  seen to love women. We control the vertical and the horizontal when it comes
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  to women. Women. You know, you have to comply. Whatever we
• 2:07:17
  ask you to do is loving women. And anything that isn't what we ask
• 2:07:24
  you to do explicitly or demand that you do is not loving women. So
• 2:07:29
  there, okay, yes, and honestly, these people don't love women.
• 2:07:32
  Like all the people that I have known in my life. The one group
• 2:07:36
  of people that I would honestly say hates women or at least is indifferent to
• 2:07:40
  them feminist typically feminist bureaucrats. They use them like cattle, and it is
• 2:07:48
  disgusting. Okay, continue, yep, Okay, So I got a couple
• 2:07:53
  of rumble rants. For some reason, social sig Ninja does not display the
• 2:07:57
  rumble rants, so I'm going to have to go. Thank you, for
• 2:08:00
  telling me about it. Nova Fan twenty one, who sent the Rumble rants
• 2:08:03
  through and I'm gonna read them out really quick. But in the future,
• 2:08:07
  I guess if you send a Rumble rant, maybe put a comment in Rumble
• 2:08:09
  right afterwards saying that you put one through so I'll see it. He says
• 2:08:13
  for a dollar random questions. If Americans say Z and Canadians say Z,
• 2:08:18
  then why do the Japanese call it a dragon ball zeto does any country say
• 2:08:24
  Z? No? I think they mean Z. But because Japanese words have
• 2:08:28
  to end in a vowel sound, then there's an O sound at the end,
• 2:08:31
  but it's not it's it's sort of not a letter. I don't know
• 2:08:35
  if that makes sense, just the way they pronounce. I knew a girl
• 2:08:37
  when I went to art school who was from Japan. Her name was Atsuko
• 2:08:41
  Sato, and she told me that when I was like trying to like look
• 2:08:46
  because she's English was her second language. Nova Fan, thank you for that.
• 2:08:50
  Nova Fan twenty one gives us two dollars and says, dear Bitter Brady,
• 2:08:54
  inc. Gamers are fine with women and minorities. There is a difference
• 2:08:58
  with having diversity and replacing quote unquote privileged white men with somebody nobody asked for.
• 2:09:03
  Well, there's a lot of blatant like hatred of men on there in
• 2:09:07
  their social media and stuff as well, So this isn't really just about like
• 2:09:11
  what they're adding in. It's how they feel about their customers. So you
• 2:09:16
  see what I'm saying. And then I got, oh, look, be
• 2:09:22
  bad said sent through some support. I think? Is that right, Allison?
• 2:09:26
  Do you see it? It's a big superchild. Otherwise are you there?
• 2:09:30
  We just sent through a big superchow so thing? Okay, well,
• 2:09:33
  thank you, be Bad said fifty dollars. It says are to display perspective
• 2:09:37
  for opinion, teaching requires differential ideals for the most expensive and flaying government known
• 2:09:45
  to man? Would you think training of flailing well that's okay, bailed spelled
• 2:09:50
  weird, but flailing government known to man? Would you think training was amortized
• 2:09:54
  with deference to your children versus training training speculation? Wow? Cryptic? Yeah,
• 2:10:07
  thank you for me that that I have read it. That's all I
• 2:10:09
  can say about that. We might actually be puzzling that over as we try
• 2:10:16
  to sleep tonight. Yeah, I'm probably not going to. And then Richard
• 2:10:22
  Pierre, I think, okay, if I can make it all right,
• 2:10:24
  try to try to treating requires differential ideas for the most expensive and flailing government,
• 2:10:33
  no demand. Do you think training was amortized with deference to your children?
• 2:10:39
  You know, I think this is going through some kind of translator.
• 2:10:43
  That's that's part of the reason why it's so cryptic. I assume then maybe
• 2:10:46
  English is not your first language. Is training for the benefit of your children
• 2:10:52
  being sacrificed for training them to the benefit of government? And I would say
• 2:10:58
  yes, if that is what you're saying, then yes, that is my
• 2:11:01
  interpretation of what you're saying, because well school, school is designed to turn
• 2:11:07
  you into a useful drone. That is what education is. So of the
• 2:11:11
  state, especially public school. Richard Bierre gives us five thank you Richard,
• 2:11:16
  and says, several of these games studios were already going to produce World Games.
• 2:11:22
  However, if they didn't hire the sensitivity consultants, they would have been
• 2:11:26
  dragged for not doing sensitivity correctly. Well, the guy Larry Fink from Blackrock
• 2:11:31
  has been There is footage of him saying that they want to essentially force behaviors,
• 2:11:37
  and they invest in companies and they offer money to groups like consulting firms
• 2:11:45
  and other companies to push the behaviors they want to essentially force or coerce,
• 2:11:50
  and that's what they've said it like, you can find footage of it.
• 2:11:52
  So I think, Sweet Baby, they're true believers. They are theater kids.
• 2:11:58
  They're all theater kids. I looked into the people behind it, and
• 2:12:01
  they really believe in this feminist shit. But they're also useful idiots of more
• 2:12:05
  powerful and more influential people who are I don't know. I don't know if
• 2:12:11
  they're like, you know, like really in the know, or if they're
• 2:12:13
  also just indoctrinated themselves. Who knows. We're several generations into this now,
• 2:12:20
  into this MK ultra thing, and I don't know what what is like who
• 2:12:24
  knows what's going on? And who is just a robot? And then one
• 2:12:28
  one little update I wanted to get before we end the show. Apparently the
• 2:12:31
  discord server is closing the chat. The discord server for sweet Baby, Inc.
• 2:12:37
  It's closing the chat because apparently someone is trying to bring it down.
• 2:12:43
  So I will keep you guys updated. If the discord server is taken down,
• 2:12:48
  I'll let you know or the sweet baby Inc detected, So they're getting
• 2:12:54
  love bombed by the bots like we can put that happened to us once too.
• 2:12:58
  Oh yeah, yeah, that's entirely possible. So I don't know.
• 2:13:03
  We'll see. I'll keep you guys updated. So quite quite a display.
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  And again, please subscribe at Honey Badger Arcade. I will what d EI.
• 2:13:16
  This is from CNN. Of course it's a couple of months ago.
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  De I efforts are under siege. Here's what experts say is at stake.
• 2:13:24
  Yeah, okay, as some of the most powerful leaders in corporate America level
• 2:13:28
  attacks against DEI. Experts argue that those fighting inclusion risk alienating employees block do
• 2:13:33
  you know do you know what I think? It was the same pattern?
• 2:13:37
  Yeah, do you know what I think DEI is what d I is me
• 2:13:43
  too? No, it's well it is, obviously, but it's me too
• 2:13:46
  turned into an institution. It's what the it's what the me too movement did,
• 2:13:54
  and you you take it and you and you unionize it and you institutionalize
• 2:13:58
  it, and you have DEI and what's the other one, esg. That's
• 2:14:01
  that's what it is because like me too was never about what it was about,
• 2:14:05
  Like some people say, oh, it started an earnest and all that.
• 2:14:07
  No, that's bullshit like it it was. It was a tool to
• 2:14:11
  destroy powerful people to put other people in power. And that is what DEI
• 2:14:16
  does. It's just like more. It's it's just more. I wouldn't say
• 2:14:22
  clever, but it's just like made formal. I'll put it that way.
• 2:14:28
  And what and what is that is cancel culture. So it's like, me
• 2:14:31
  too is cancel culture. Cancel culture is DEI. Maybe that's the threat.
• 2:14:35
  Does that make sense? Me too leads to cancel culture, which leads to
• 2:14:41
  DEI. Yeah, it's all weapons. It's all weapons to create it to
• 2:14:45
  get control and money. And I know about me too as well, because
• 2:14:50
  I have seen the financials of these organizations related to me too, like times
• 2:14:54
  Up and New Hope and Against Nash Organization Against Domestic Violence or something. Yeah,
• 2:15:03
  they're they're aking it in folks. Yeah, when I've actually looked at
• 2:15:07
  that every time. Now anybody from that side calls me a grift or I
• 2:15:13
  just laugh because we're talking. Yeah right, I get yeah, I get
• 2:15:18
  the same thing million dollars in salary in some cases for like fifty thousand dollars
• 2:15:24
  a year worth of actual services, like it's unbelievably. It's it's unbelievable.
• 2:15:31
  That's what's going through these feminist organizations. They are doing nothing for women,
• 2:15:37
  nothing except breaking money. I've even seen women who are dealing with domestic violence
• 2:15:46
  crying about this on Twitter that they that they've been noticing that these organizations have
• 2:15:52
  no interest in actually helping them. They're just interested in giving their board members
• 2:15:58
  huge kickbacks. Okay, that's what's going on, and me too was part
• 2:16:07
  of that, and the reason why I clued in on this was really interesting.
• 2:16:11
  I'll try to go through it briefly. So I was looking I was
• 2:16:13
  going to do a video on all of the media response to what happened in
• 2:16:18
  the Johnny Depp amber Heard trial, and as anybody who's been following that,
• 2:16:24
  the media tried to erase reality and sub substitute its own, even though many
• 2:16:28
  many people saw it for what it was, right, they tried to erase
• 2:16:33
  reality substitute their own. I went through and I compiled all of the media
• 2:16:37
  responses, or most of them, to this. I found in one article
• 2:16:43
  a really telling statement about what was really behind all of this. It was
• 2:16:48
  by a woman named Ruth Glenn who was the director or like CEO of National
• 2:16:54
  Violence Against Women Organization or something like that. Don't don't quote because that is
• 2:17:00
  right off the top of my head. I know it's wrong. But anyway,
• 2:17:03
  so looking at this, and she says, this trial, the Amber,
• 2:17:07
  her Johnny Depp trial, has not been a good a good trial for
• 2:17:13
  us, like a good accusation for us, right, and by that,
• 2:17:20
  we haven't seen the donations. Yeah, right there. I mean, I
• 2:17:26
  can believe that she said the quiet part out loud, but it and then
• 2:17:31
  I'm like what So I'm like, okay, I'm going to look at the
• 2:17:33
  financials of this organization. All right, she gets her organization gets half a
• 2:17:39
  million dollars just or puts out half a million dollars in salary. And what
• 2:17:43
  do people get out of it? They have one service, which is referring
• 2:17:48
  disfigured women who are disfigured through battering, which is not actually very common to
• 2:17:54
  plastic surgeons. That's it. So referring women to plastic surgeons, not you
• 2:18:01
  know, creating a means or like saving funds to pay for those surgeons,
• 2:18:07
  which which is what I would consider a real service, which would be you
• 2:18:11
  know, having being able to send them off with like a bursary to pay
• 2:18:16
  for this stuff. No, it's just referring them to plastic surgeons. That's
• 2:18:20
  it as well, Like, that's not something that takes forty hours a week.
• 2:18:28
  I'm almost certain that there isn't that many women disfigured by being battered that
• 2:18:33
  need to go to plastic surgeons. And the other thing she does is maintain
• 2:18:39
  a plant, a pamphlet, a newsletter, and do an hour and a
• 2:18:43
  half seminar. Now, and a half seminar isn't even done by her,
• 2:18:46
  it's fun by somebody else, and it's paid, so people have to pay
• 2:18:50
  to attend it. And she has a mailing list. I'm like, this
• 2:18:56
  is half a million dollars. This is what earned This is what you get
• 2:19:00
  for half a million dollars in the female and in the women's the women worsting
• 2:19:05
  industry, Like, they get so much pork it's unbelievable, and they do
• 2:19:11
  almost nothing with it. Nothing, And this is what they're protecting, guys.
• 2:19:18
  Maybe it's protecting the fact they do do fucking nothing except make things worse
• 2:19:24
  for the audience. They are protecting their source of income and self righteousness.
• 2:19:31
  And that's all it is, and again this isn't diversity. Diversity is fine.
• 2:19:35
  Diversity is a literally baked into art. It is literally a part of
• 2:19:41
  the virtue of art. It doesn't need to be lectured by these people.
• 2:19:45
  That's not what they're advocating for. They're advocating for a caste system based on
• 2:19:50
  birth, based on diversity or what they think is diversity, this degree.
• 2:19:58
  They just occupy pi a position in the hierarchy based on their birth. That's
• 2:20:05
  it. It's like, like, I think what you said, diversity for
• 2:20:09
  conformity. M hmm, amazingly. All right, So nobody, nobody,
• 2:20:13
  No artists should be lectured to by these people because they have a virtue.
• 2:20:20
  They're just cultural authoritarians who want to use diversity to construct a hierarchy, to
• 2:20:26
  put people in and put themselves on top. Yep, Okay, all right,
• 2:20:31
  there you go. All right, there you go. Uh one,
• 2:20:33
  okay. One other thing that I thought was good news, I'm gonna share
• 2:20:37
  with you guys. So the guy who created this, this discord server and
• 2:20:45
  steam group Cabrutus, is creating another thing called DEI detected dot com. So
• 2:20:54
  what does that mean? He is going to be essentially compiling a list of
• 2:20:58
  every company that he can find that uses THEI. So this is essentially sweet
• 2:21:05
  Baby Inc. Detected on steroids, which I think is pretty fucking based.
• 2:21:11
  So let me know what you guys think about that in the comments, see
• 2:21:15
  if you'd be willing to come in and talk. I have, yes,
• 2:21:16
  I've already asked him. He's he's I got him. I got him as
• 2:21:20
  soon as I learn about it. I reached out to him, but he
• 2:21:24
  was already like bombarded with requests. But he's gonna come on at least on
• 2:21:28
  Honey Badger Arcade next week, so that's what he told me anyways, So
• 2:21:35
  yeah, hopefully that will that will happen. Well, I mean it was
• 2:21:39
  just I wasn't sure like what the odds of you know, like getting that
• 2:21:45
  to work out were, so I went out on a limb. So yeah,
• 2:21:48
  but I mean, we'll see what the timing is. Maybe I can
• 2:21:52
  just stream to both places at once. I could certainly do that, so
• 2:21:56
  all right, all right, Yeah, you want me to do the things,
• 2:22:00
  shall we? Yeah, go ahead and do the things. Let's call
• 2:22:03
  it a day, all right. So if you want to support the show,
• 2:22:05
  feed the Badger dot Com slash support very appreciated, and we do need
• 2:22:13
  do you guys to you know, extend yourself to make sure that we can
• 2:22:16
  keep going. We do like we still exist ten years after the fact,
• 2:22:18
  right guys. You know why because you guys support us. That's it.
• 2:22:22
  That's the only reason. I mean, yep, I would still be doing
• 2:22:24
  this stuff. It's it's probably like the worst. It's probably the worst grift
• 2:22:30
  ever, to be honest, Like, I'm okay with with getting you know,
• 2:22:35
  a living. We get a living, right, Yeah, but that's
• 2:22:37
  not a grift, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you don't get a
• 2:22:41
  really fancy living. I personally would prefer if I were ever to become,
• 2:22:46
  you know, rich, that it would be through my art, not through
• 2:22:50
  advocacy, because there's something in me that I don't think that it's appropriate to
• 2:22:54
  get rich from advocacy, if that makes sense. Yeah, But be that
• 2:23:01
  as it may. If you want to make sure that we can continue to
• 2:23:03
  do this, feed the Badger dot Calm slash support again, we probably would
• 2:23:07
  still be doing it, but we would not be doing it daily. We'd
• 2:23:09
  probably maybe do doing it like once or twice a month. But anyway,
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  Feed the Badger Doll Calm Slash support. You are the reason why we continue
• 2:23:18
  to pick away at this, to chip away at this, and hopefully one
• 2:23:22
  day people will realize you just got You got to stop it at the source,
• 2:23:28
  which is men oppress women. This is a statement that has never been
• 2:23:33
  subject to scientific rigor. People don't even think it needs to be, and
• 2:23:39
  it does because if you're saying that this describes reality, then you have to
• 2:23:43
  put it through that process. You got to put it to the test,
• 2:23:45
  and it never has been. And if you're somebody who believes it, how
• 2:23:48
  do you falsify it? Tell me that how do you falsify it? All
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  right? Okay? Feed the Badger Doll Calm slash support to make sure we
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• 2:24:03
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  Feed the badgertal Colm Slash just the tip or a cat, because I know
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  they're cat people out there. I think my ginger cat is pretty awesome.
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  awesome we are, or to send more cryptic stuff. Thank you, be
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  bad sad. Just just send us a message. Tell us we're not screaming
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  into the void. Feed the badger dot com slash just the tip. Okay,
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  back to you, Brian, all right, I got one more super
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  challem. Just gonna read it really quick. Richard Bierre gives us five bucks
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  and says, so companies can either alienate the customers and face the revenue loss
• 2:24:54
  with satisfied wolk employees who hate the company, or they can alienate the employees
• 2:24:58
  who want to destroy the company that compensates them. Interesting human One more liver
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  treat. So he wants you to give the dog out the liver treat.
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  And I would say, yeah, Well, I guess it depends if if
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  if black Rock is giving more money to them than their customers, then they
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  might think it's a worthwhile loss. So but I think there is a money
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  laundering, fucking incestuous scheme. I mean, why would look at all of
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  these journalists that are coming forward and defending the giant corporation, and the several
• 2:25:33
  smaller corporations connected to said giant corporations will also complaining about me capitalism. I
• 2:25:39
  think it's because they're all in bed with each other, just like it's all
• 2:25:43
  same as it ever was, same as ever was, same as it ever
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  was. You know, you know the song right, it's actually pretty egregious,
• 2:25:52
  you know, like, yeah, it's about capitalism. It's like,
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  you know what, I think what your complaints about capitalism are are actually complaints
• 2:26:03
  about small business? Yes, oh absolutely, you don't like people? Yeah,
• 2:26:09
  don't like it. I mean do you know why? Like do you
• 2:26:11
  know why? Yeah? Yeah, do you know why. The conversation around
• 2:26:16
  like Starship Troopers and fascism proped back up on Twitter recently because of the game
• 2:26:20
  Hell Divers too, and they hated it because it was very successful. It
• 2:26:26
  did not pander, It did not have not a lot of like overtly woke
• 2:26:30
  crap in it. It was just fun to play and men liked it,
• 2:26:33
  and that pissed them off because it completely demolished Suicide Squad, which was their
• 2:26:39
  baby. So they were like, we're gonna take this thing that you guys
• 2:26:41
  love, and we're gonna make it our thing and then we're gonna make you
• 2:26:45
  like it. And people were like, nah, that's okay, I'm gonna
• 2:26:48
  go do this over here, and now they're saying that's fascism, So there
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