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Max Anderson Joins Tiger Territory · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the buel Territory Network, a Tiger's podcast presented by Fox One.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Karen Steckley with me as always, the man who
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  Speaker 1: gives tricks for treats and treats for tricks. He is
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  Speaker 1: Ky Stavinagen.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, Hey, doing all right, Karen? Halloween's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: I've realized I'm in that phase of my life where
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  Speaker 2: Halloween isn't fun anymore, you know, a little too old
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  Speaker 2: for the parties. No one's having any parties, don't have
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  Speaker 2: kids yet, so it's like this weird period where Halloween
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really exist.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what bars are for. That would be
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  Speaker 1: what I'm I'm doing tonight. By the time, Yes, they
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  Speaker 1: are listening to this, but Tigers fans are in for
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  Speaker 1: a couple uh tricks and treats depending on your perspective,
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  Speaker 1: because the Tarrek Schooble news continues to uh to be
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  Speaker 1: anxiety driving and for me specifically, and not even in
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  Speaker 1: the fact that like you know, I hope he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get traded or you know this that the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's the common sentiments. Had a conversation my
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  Speaker 1: father about that. But I am getting a little tired
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  Speaker 1: of what I would consider old quote unquote breaking news.
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  Speaker 1: And we got that again this week with like a
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  Speaker 1: clarification of a reported number. I guess, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you want to call it, but now the presenting
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  Speaker 1: notion out there, Cody is at the Tigers last off season,
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  Speaker 1: not this off season. Last off season offered Schooble a
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  Speaker 1: four year extension for quote less than eighty something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the terminology is on the report, But the treat
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  Speaker 1: of it is Cody that Schooble you said last week
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  Speaker 1: that you hope he's golfing. Doesn't really look like he's
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  Speaker 1: doing a lot of golfing. He's doing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: working out. You go, you follow him on Instagram, like
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  Speaker 1: I do. You see the workout montages he is getting
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  Speaker 1: after it. No days off Trek Schoogle this week. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm working out with the Tigers, you know, sleeveless cutoff
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  Speaker 1: shirt on. So I ask you what is the bigger
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  Speaker 1: Trek Schoogle development. The fact that he's working out in
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  Speaker 1: a Tiger shirt or the fact that last year he
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  Speaker 1: was reportedly offered some contract that is obviously far below
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  Speaker 1: what his market value is. What's what's the bigger what's
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  Speaker 1: the big trick or treats? Which one? Which one's a
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  Speaker 1: bigger deal?
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  Speaker 2: I think the old news of an offer that's already
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  Speaker 2: a year old is pretty close to meaningless. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it matters what he's wearing the workouts, but
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  Speaker 2: I hope there's a part of Tark school that's going
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  Speaker 2: full like Taylor Swift and just dropping Easter eggs. So
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  Speaker 2: I'd appreciate it if he was, like film me wearing
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  Speaker 2: the tiger shirt. That's my subtle way of sending a message,
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  Speaker 2: is he really a not? But that'd be kind of fun, right,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we should all start dissecting these videos a little closer.
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  Speaker 2: If there any background, any clocks in the background, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the clock four o'clock for zero zero to yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I you know he is he working
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  Speaker 1: out at three thirteen in the afternoon or the morning?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Big too?
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, look, it's both of them are
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  Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, relatively meaningless. But I
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  Speaker 1: will say there's also an element of not nothing. It's
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  Speaker 1: probably a little something, but like a little little something.
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  Speaker 1: I imagine he's probably not putting this out on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: if he is feuding with the organization, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the alternative would be to where like
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  Speaker 1: an MLBPA like uh, you know, shirt or whatever like that,
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  Speaker 1: that would be sending a message. But uh, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so probably absolutely nothing, but like a little hint of something.
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  Speaker 1: And we can move on to things that are a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more current, and that would be that there
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  Speaker 1: was an announcement, uh, of another coaching move, Cody, and
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  Speaker 1: that is is that Keith Beauregard, one of the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: hitting instructors, will not be returning. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's like contract not being renewed or you know what.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless he is, I can confirm this report. Keith Beauregard's
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  Speaker 2: contract was up. He is not returning to the staff.
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  Speaker 2: The full story, full reasoning, maybe I'm not quite up on.
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  Speaker 2: But look, when you have a year like the Tigers did,
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  Speaker 2: a finish like the Tigers did, it's tough to be
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  Speaker 2: a hitting coach.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about this a lot. Hitting coaches are kind
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  Speaker 2: of always the guy to take a fall, and when
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  Speaker 2: you have three of them, it insulates you against that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit because fans have a harder time picking
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  Speaker 2: which guy to take down. But I think it was
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  Speaker 2: reasonable to assume at least one of these hitting coaches
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  Speaker 2: was not going to return. For now, it's Keith Beauregard.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see two things. A. Will there
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  Speaker 2: be more changes to the coaching staff Michael Bazar and
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  Speaker 2: Lancelawatski also hitting coaches at least Bidarre believed to also
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  Speaker 2: be on an expiring And then two, if they're going
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  Speaker 2: to replace Keith Beauregard, what type of guy are they
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  Speaker 2: looking for? Is there at all going to be a
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  Speaker 2: push for the Tigers to get one of these Brett
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  Speaker 2: Boone Edgar Martinez types, you know, the former player kind
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  Speaker 2: of the older school mentality to mesh with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a newer school hitting coach, a guy who can preach
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  Speaker 2: playing the game, all that stuff, all that stuff we
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  Speaker 2: all wanted off the coaching staff in like twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: that this game is just one big circle one Michael,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, well, maybe you need to bring in
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  Speaker 2: someone who can remind the boys to use the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know, Like, if I were going to
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  Speaker 2: add something to this staff, I think that's something you
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  Speaker 2: would certainly want to look at, especially when you still
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  Speaker 2: have the ability to bring back these more modern, progressive
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  Speaker 2: style hitting coaches.
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  Speaker 1: I am also available for hire as a hitting coach,
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  Speaker 1: and I will just say one thing, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: line from Frank Thomas. I don't know if you ever
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  Speaker 1: heard of him, knows a thing or two about hitting.
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  Speaker 1: He said, cut the ball in half and hit the
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  Speaker 1: bottom half. So there you go. There's there's my, my, my,
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  Speaker 1: glorious analysis of hitting and the science thereof. But if
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  Speaker 1: you know, these guys obviously had different roles, I'd be
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  Speaker 1: curious to see what their roles were. We will probably
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  Speaker 1: never be privy to that information. But whoever got Treks,
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  Speaker 1: or assume me, who got Spencer Torklesen going this year,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully will be retained because Tourglesen had a offensive war
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  Speaker 1: of two point three this past year, a third home
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  Speaker 1: run season, blah blah. We feel a lot better about
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  Speaker 1: Torgosen now than we did at this time last year.
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  Speaker 1: And Tourglesen, speaking of, was awarded the Good Guy Award
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  Speaker 1: by you and your fellow members of the Detroit chapter
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  Speaker 1: of the Baseball Writers Association of America. So good on
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  Speaker 1: Trek scooball and then not too surprising special Turtle sent
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  Speaker 1: and then Tarrek's School was Tiger of the Year. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of teas in there, Torklesen Good Guy a ward,
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  Speaker 1: Trek Tiger of the Year, so you know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like those of those seemed like find choices.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats to both. Scooble won this with I think
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  Speaker 2: twenty of the twenty three votes pretty clear it was
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  Speaker 2: a guy I voted for, don't think there should be
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  Speaker 2: much debate, and then Torglesen. The good Guy award was
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  Speaker 2: tough man, be honest. I voted for Dylan Dingler Catcher,
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  Speaker 2: smart guy, talked after seemed like every single game, including
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  Speaker 2: when they were losing. But Tourglesen also a very deserving winner.
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  Speaker 2: He's been great to deal with through a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ups and downs, and was also it seemed like he
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  Speaker 2: kind of made a point to be available to kind
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  Speaker 2: of take some metaphorical bullets for the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: team when they were losing down the stretch. So not overlooked,
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  Speaker 2: not underappreciated. Congrats to Trek, Scubel and Spencer Turtlesen.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and we'll obviously be reacting when any bigger awards,
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  Speaker 1: all of baseball awards happened for Schoobul and any other
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  Speaker 1: Tigers player as the offseason continues. But now his time
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  Speaker 1: for our DraftKings chart topper of the week. So we've
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  Speaker 1: had a fine We've had a fine World Series, Cody.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to make a joke earlier about you
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  Speaker 1: just can't avoid deep, extra ending games some of you
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  Speaker 1: guys are watching on YouTube. See Cody's face right here
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  Speaker 1: for those who don't know. Cody was live blogging on
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  Speaker 1: the Athletic for Game three, which meant that he was
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  Speaker 1: working about twice as long as.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah that I've been assigned two World Series games.
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  Speaker 2: It was three and six, so eighteen innings and Halloween evening.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the only two I've I've had to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot easier from the couch though, than it
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  Speaker 2: is covering one of those live after fifteen innings. I
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  Speaker 2: actually wasn't complaining too much, and what an eptic game
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  Speaker 2: that was. It was fun, a lot of fun to watch,
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  Speaker 2: even if it made for a late night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the question from the wife in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: you stay up for the whole thing. It was like yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean at a certain point you might as well.
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  Speaker 1: You want to see how it ends, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: we when we've been treated to a great World series
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  Speaker 1: and some and some heroics and and and show. He
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Atani is obviously at the top of the list. I
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  Speaker 1: know Toronto is on the cusp of of clinching. They
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  Speaker 1: have two games to try to win one. But and
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  Speaker 1: I I almost hate like taking away from that, but
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  Speaker 1: like what we're what we've seen from Otania this postseason,
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  Speaker 1: then uh you know that Game three just spectacular. This
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  Speaker 1: is a guy that you've seen Cody. We've talked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when it when he kind of crossed pass
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  Speaker 1: with the Tigers and all that stuff. But uh it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a lost for words about what this guy can
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  Speaker 1: do on the baseball field and what he like, Like
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing, like we are watching like history here.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's so amazing, Like it is talked about at nauseum,
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  Speaker 2: talked about on the broadcast so much people seem to
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  Speaker 2: be getting annoyed. And I still don't think it's talked
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  Speaker 2: about enough. This is something like we have never seen
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  Speaker 2: in baseball, really, something we have never seen in professional sports.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost hard maybe to fully contextualize and appreciate in
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  Speaker 2: the moment. But we are watching probably the most talented,
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  Speaker 2: the greatest baseball player ever every single night playing in
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  Speaker 2: the World Series. I think everyone love him, hate him whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I think everyone should appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I shared this before, but my
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  Speaker 1: father in law after that ten strikeout performance was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, in the home runs, like
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  Speaker 1: the home runs like this will never happen again. He's like, well,
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: don't say never, and I was like, Eh, it's all
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  Speaker 1: ever have again. It's pretty special, kind of a one
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  Speaker 1: oh one thing. But obviously I don't put anything past
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  Speaker 1: show Hey. So show Hey is my pick for Game six,
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  Speaker 1: my my DraftKings Sportsbook pick of the week. I have
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  Speaker 1: four hit over four hits plus runs plus RBI, so
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's come up big and big moments.
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  Speaker 1: How do you come up big here? Well, you get
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  Speaker 1: on base drive guys in and you score. He's obviously
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  Speaker 1: a great base runner. Uh So I like this number
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  Speaker 1: here at plus two twenty eight. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: but this felt like a safer way of thinking about
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  Speaker 1: it in terms of like, if he has an overall
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  Speaker 1: All right, one more thing from DraftKings here, Cody. I
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  Speaker 1: and obviously there's been you know, there's been that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff in the news in baseball and now in basketball.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the reasons I like looking at this
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: stuff is it helps contextualize the sport itself. So you
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  Speaker 1: can look at odds right now on who will win
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: the American League penn in twenty twenty six. And I
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: think this is a good sort of like benchmark. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens the rest of the offseason. Number one
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  Speaker 1: New York Yankees plus three ten. Number two Seattle Manners
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  Speaker 1: plus five fifty. Number three are tied for two. Houston
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  Speaker 1: Astros plus five fifty, Boston Red Sox plus seven hundred,
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  Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. I'm getting through some teams here now,
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  Speaker 1: Cody Blue Jays plus one thousand, Texas Rangers plus thirteen hundred,
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians plus thirteen hundred, Baltimore Orioles plus thirteen hundred,
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  Speaker 1: and your Detroit Tigers plus fourteen hundred. That is the
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  Speaker 1: odds right now has one two, three, four, five, six
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  Speaker 1: seven eight ninth in American League Pennant Odds right as
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  Speaker 1: of right now for the Detroit Tigers. So that's something
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  Speaker 1: that is something interesting. I'm not trying to make an
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  Speaker 1: opinion on. I'm not giving any advice. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting to me.
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  Speaker 2: That's really interesting, and Vegas isn't just making stuff up,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, So I don't want to tiger a
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  Speaker 2: ton about betting or odds. But for those of you
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  Speaker 2: who don't think the Tigers need to update or upgrade
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  Speaker 2: their roster in some form, or fashion. There's I think
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  Speaker 2: that speaks to like what I've said about projection systems.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you run it back with what you have.
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  Speaker 2: That projection system I think is going to spit out
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  Speaker 2: eighty two eighty three wins. There's a case to do
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  Speaker 2: some things to get better on paper and hopes that
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  Speaker 2: will lead to you being better than eighty seven wins
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  Speaker 2: on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, these odds are basically generated using
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  Speaker 1: those projection systems. Like that, you know this stuff is connected,
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  Speaker 1: So I just want I just thought that was interesting.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: As we turned the page into November, and we have
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  Speaker 1: a we're happy to announce we have a special interview
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  Speaker 1: with a guy who I think could factor into the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Tigers, and that is Max Anderson. Max
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Anderson was kind of enough to join us for about
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  Speaker 1: a half hour. Thoughtful guy, a lot of fun. Had
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  Speaker 1: had a blast talking with him. I hope you guys
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it. So without further ado, here's our interview with
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  Speaker 1: Max Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are happy to welcome Max Anderson to
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  Speaker 2: the podcast. Max rising Tiger's prospect. He's out in the
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Arizona Fall League right now. He's been tearing it up
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: out there, Max, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, happy to be here.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: So Max, you know Arizona Fall League. Let's just kind
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: of go right there. It is very current, like how
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: does that happen? Like how are you approached? Like you know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: like how far in advance do you kind of know
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: this is gonna you know your season's going to extend
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And then just sort of like the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: day to day of participating in this. In this you
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: know you're concentrating your game, but also like you're in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a random house right now. It's not your home, Like
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  Speaker 1: how how does that happen from a player's perspective? And
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  Speaker 1: what's it? What's the experience been like for you this year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we kind of find out about a month month
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  Speaker 5: left of the season and then kinda it's nothing glamorous
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  Speaker 5: or anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's just kind of a phone call with.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, some guys in the in the front
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: office with the Tigers and they'll call you and say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we'd like you to represent you represent us in the
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Fall League, and you know it's kind of something that
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: you can't really turn down.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody usually says yes, but no. So that that
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  Speaker 3: was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: To get that call and be able to just talk
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  Speaker 5: and kind of see that the Tigers like they kind
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: of thank you pretty highly if they're wanting to send
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  Speaker 5: you here. And I mean, as far as being down here,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's awesome. I mean, I was just got off
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: the phone with my my with my parents and they're
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: in forty degree weather and it's freezing rain, and so
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: it makes it a little easier to be out here
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: in ninety degree weather. But kind of the day to
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  Speaker 5: day here, I mean we just i mean night games
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  Speaker 5: pretty relaxed, just kind of like the season, like get
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: a sleep in a little bit and you know, trying
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  Speaker 5: not to stay in bed too long, and then we'll
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: go to the field work out every day. For me,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: that's kind of a big part is trying to get
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: my body in the best shape for, you know, next year,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: because in a sense, this is kind of still like
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: the start of your offseason. H So kind of making
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: that balance so you're still able to play play good,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: but also getting your body ready for the next season
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: is kind of a tricky thing that the Tigers have
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: helped helped me with. But I'm having a blast out here.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, the guys that we're playing with. I mean,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: the guys that I'm living with, they're they're awesome, a
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: great time to be around. And uh, you know friends
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: that have came in with, came to the in to
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: the pro baseball uh that I have had for the
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: two and a half years i've been been here.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: So so.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, what's your what's your compound? Like, we know you're
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you're with Kevin McGonagall. Who else is there? And what
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: do you guys do in the downtime?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Carlos, like Erika, he's a pitcher, he's also here.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, we all came came.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: In the same draft class, so we were pretty close
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: and it was nice that we got to live together.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It's just us three.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: And uh kind of a pretty pretty normal Arizona house.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: It's got to pool out back, so we do a
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: lot of just kind of hanging out in the pool,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: all three.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Of us like the golf. So, uh, it's kind of kind.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Of worked out nice that, I mean, no complaints. They
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: put us in a great spot at Arizona. There's i
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: mean countless things to do that in your free time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: So we've been busy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you know you mentioned a couple of guys there
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and your class, very highly regarded class. I'm curious, like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you being a second round pick. You know McGonagall mentioned
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Max Clark, you know at the top there, like when
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you're in the day to day and the miners, you know, grinding, grueling,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do you and even in the games against your opponents,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: do you like look at hey, do you look at
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: yourself as like, I'm a second round pick, I should
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: be doing this. This is my timeline. I carry myself
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a certain way. And b do you look at your
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: teammates slash your opponents like, oh, that guy was a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: top five pick, that guy was a first round pick.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You know this player got this bonus? Like does does
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the ore exist for the guys that like, you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: people like us talk about but you're seeing them with
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: them day to day?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Uh for me, this is definitely gonna sound like a
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: stock answer. But I I like, personally like I don't.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I don't see myself like as any like anything special.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And I feel like I've kind of been like that
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: my whole way. Like when I was a high schooler
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: and I went to like a camp somewhere and talked
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: to the coach and I was going home and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I was like, gosh, I guess I'm getting recruited.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Now, Like I never thought this would happen.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Like I just kind of don't see things in a sense,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: like don't take them more than what they are, If
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: that's the right wording. I think it's it's tough like
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: when you like, for me, like I'm a huge baseball fan,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: so like I've followed like prospects and drafts my whole life.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: So like when I see guys that like we're drafted high,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: like I definitely recognize it, and when you're playing them.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: But I think that's also a key to succeeding in baseball,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: is like trying to take the name off their back
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: and just take the person for who they are and
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: being able to play like cause like you go up
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and face like a Paul Skins or Chase Burns, like
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: those guys are good pitchers alone, Like if you let
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: their name do they're talking for them, like it's gonna
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: make it even harder to get a.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Hit off them.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: So you got to just be able to play baseball
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: and kind of see everybody as the same. Even though
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: that I mean in the grand scheme of things, I mean,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: people are a lot better they got drafted for a
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: reason that high and kind of all that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up that high school story because
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get into your backstory a little bit.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You grew up in Omaha, actually spent a little bit
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of time there. Nice town, great zoo. Right, oh yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and then you went to the University of Nebraska. It's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: right down the road. I guess what type of player
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: were you in high school? And why were you surprised
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: when you started getting recruited.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: So in high school, I mean I had an older
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: brother and he was he loved baseball. He wasn't very good,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: so I kind of always I always watched him play
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: baseball and watched everything that he did, and he, I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: he loved it, and so in my mind, I was
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: just playing and just kind of whatever happens happens. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: never I mean, all everybody goes to like showcases and
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: plays travel ball nowadays.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Didn't. I didn't do any of that really ever until
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: my junior fall.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: So I played I don't know, if you guys know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: a legion baseball like high school. Yeah, So I played
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: that in the summers, and I didn't do any travel ball.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: So I didn't really know what was out there, like
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: if any college coaches like liked, how if I was
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: good or not, like realistically didn't really get a see
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: like kind of weigh myself against like other top ranked prospects,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: so to say.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: In high school, how I got recrud.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I went to just a bunch of camps in the fall,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: like college baseball camps, and they were great.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: To me.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: It was pretty cool to be able to just see
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: a bunch of different colleges and almost take it as
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: like a visit to the college town. Even though that
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I mean probably fifty percent of them didn't, like, didn't
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: think I was good enough to go there, so but
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: it was it was pretty cool. I mean, I I
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: had kind of a weird recruiting story. So I was
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: going to committed to text A and M when I
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: was a sophomore. I went to a camp and I
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: was a sophomore, called them and then then kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: just committed like within it all within like a month.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: And then like so that COVID draft, that five round
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: draft that happened and just kind of they had a
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: lot of guys that were supposed to get drafted a
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: normal draft and didn't get drafted, which naturally happens.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: So then kind of just didn't work out there, and.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: It just so happened that the Texas A and M
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: staff got hired at the hitting coach got hired as
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: the head coach at Nebraska, Will Bolt, and within like
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: twenty four hours, I was going to Nebraska and it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Was the best best decision in my life. It was awesome.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so funny how things work out sometimes exactly exactly.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Were you a multi sport guy in high school?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I played basketball as well. I was not very good, though.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I came off the band men with average about the
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: same amount of fouls as points.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, everyone, you gotta have one of those guys
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: on your team.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I liked that exactly.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Well, then you you spend three years at Nebraska, then
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you know, you get drafted by the Tigers. So that's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a to me from the outside, that feels like a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: pretty accelerated timeline for someone you know, surprise, you get recruited,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and then you know, you end up at Nebraska, like
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you said, and all of a sudden you're a second
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: round pick. So like the draft process, I'm also curious
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: about Max, Like, how was that for you? Where did
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you have any idea like where you were going to go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Did you kind of have your mind made up like
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: at that time or like, yeah, what was that like?
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I mean you kind of get a grasp
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: of where you could go. I mean with the with
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: the MLB draft, I mean everything's so crazy with like
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: there can be like deals made beforehand and kind of
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: all that crazy stuff that can happen. So you don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: really know until like you get rafted that things are
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: gonna happen. And I I didn't. There's probably a mixture
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: of like four or five teams that I felt like
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: were pretty interested in me, and then it just kind
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: of so happened that the Tigers were the ones that
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: took me and my I was more personally, I was
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: more nervous for my buddy getting drafted, Bryce Matthews, like
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: because he he was like first round er. I was
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: like kind of crazy and it's kind of surreal moment
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: for me to watch him and then like he gets
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: drafted and it turns over to me and I'm like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, like I might get drafted tonight too,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Like it's pretty cool.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: So it was.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: It was done all around, just surreal moment and ended
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: up three. I mean two of my pretty close friends
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Mike Bovee got drafted too, to the Brewers right after.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Uh So, being able to see i mean, two of
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: your buddies that you've played baseball with kind of your
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: whole life get drafted is also a pretty cool moment
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: and night for just you as a person.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: That's awesome the time.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So the Tigers were not one of those four or
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: five teams that you were thinking.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Am I reading that correctly?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I mean at the beginning of the day, I didn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: didn't really have the Tigers on my horizon and then
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: worked out for the best.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: About that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do one more question then we'll get to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a break here. But before we move on. You know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you said going to Nebraska was one of the best
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: decisions of your life. What was it that made that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: such a formative time for you as a player as
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: a person When you look back when your time in Nebraska,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: what are the things that really come to mind?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, first off, just having i mean my
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: friends from from growing up or there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: They weren't playing baseball, but they were going to.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: College there, so having them there was it was a
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: definitely big time, plus people to see them, and family
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: was really close so they could come and watch every game.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: So that was a huge part, just the friends and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: family aspects of things. And then going there, I felt
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: like I grew as a player a lot.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I felt like I was kind of just kind of
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: like it didn't know much, like just kind of a
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: baseball player coming out of high school, didn't really play
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: high level, like the highest of level baseball, didn't really
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: know how good I was. And I felt like Nebraska
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: kind of just fine tuned some things for me, helped
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: me a bunch defensively, and helped me a bunch just
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: mentally getting to the right spot, and kind of turned
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: me into the player I am today.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So for any listeners who don't know, Max hit four
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: fourteen with twenty one homers his final year at Nebraska,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: not a shabby stat line.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Treated me good.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we are going to get to a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: quick break and then afterwards we'll talk some more Tigers
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: baseball organizationally with Max Anderson.
• 27:56
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  Speaker 1: All right, Max, what's your super power?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Superpower?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I got any superpower?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Well, hintons do. It seems to be going pretty well
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: for you. Uh well, let's uh, let's get to some
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: some professional ballplayer timeline stuff with you. Everybody asks like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you know, major league players, like, what was your you know?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the major league moment and and that hasn't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: happened for you yet. So when that does happen, we'll
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: get you back on. We'll last that moment. But like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: what about the welcome to the miners moment? Is there
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like a like you know, like either on the field,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: off the field all this stuff. Because I we have
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Austin Jackson as a part of our podcast and he goes,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you know, how much do you really love baseball? You know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: going through that grind, So like, is there a welcome
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to the miners moment for you? Max?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I I kind of was going in the same spot, like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I think the biggest welcome to the miners moment is
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: playing one hundred and thirty whatever games you play, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: just I mean for me, that was a big difference
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: from college. But I can't imagine like a high school
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: guy going to straight to full season, like.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: That's a lot a lot of baseball to.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Be played and you're getting drafted high like they're expecting
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: you to play five six days a week. So I
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: think just the sheer like length of the season I
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: think is the welcome to the minor leagues for me
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: and probably a lot of guys just trying to keep
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: your body together so you can, i mean, take six
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: hundred at bats and you know, not stay healthy.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned earlier, you know, working with the Tigers
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to develop off season plans things like that. You know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I've heard you had really an important formative off season
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: before this past year. What have you learned so far
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: about what it takes to get your body ready and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: this past off season in particular, kind of what did
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that look like for you?
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of kind of just taken serious what you
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: do and just kind of how you go about it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Like I think.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Training like you can you can take it a few
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: different ways, like you can just do it and you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: check the box and say that it's been done.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Where you can do it for a reason.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: And I'm a big believer in just doing stuff for
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: a reason and not like just doing a bunch of
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: eyewash for no reason.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: That's not going to get you anywhere. So just having
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: a reason behind everything we do.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Back in Omaha and then here as well, Like there's
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: like I like to be able to figure out like
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: what's just going to help me do like in the
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: next season.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And I feel like that's helped me put together a plan.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: To be able to stay healthy and just be able
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to handle a minor league season and kind of show
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: up to spring training in the best shape that I can.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: What's what's that look like you're talking more like functional
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: strength type stuff or what's an example of going from
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: some eyewash thing to something that's really making a tangible
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: impact in what you Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of stuff with like jumping, an
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: agility I think is huge for minor leaguers because you're
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I mean for infielders, you're doing a pre pitch for
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I mean probably like ten thousand times or more throughout
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: the year, So doing your jumps and making sure your
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: quads and hammies are they're ready to go when you
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: get started in the spring. So a lot of quick
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: agility stuff and a lot of jumps I think for
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: me was very important. And then being able to maybe
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: shave off a few pounds and be kind of lighter
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: on your feet so you can feel good and feel
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: light playing in the infield. You know, every step matters
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: when getting getting the few extra getting a few extra
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: outscround balls for your pitcher.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: So those things kind of.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Go hand in hand, you know, being a little lighter
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: and then having a little more agility under your belt.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I think it was those were the huge things for me.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Where where's your comfort level that, you know, the various
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: positions that the that the Tigers have had you you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: perform at in the infield and and and honestly, I'm
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: actually curious about this, like more generically too, because we
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: see at the major league level what Colt Keith has
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: gone through, you know, you know, you know, being you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: third base, second base, third base again and in even
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: first base too. So so, so what has that experience
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: been like for you? And then just kind of if
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you can just kind of illustrate like how those things
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: are different and what the challenges are at you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: at each position.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Uh so I came in, played in second base, played
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: my last year of college at second base, and played
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: i mean the full season, and I'm fairly comfortable there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: I feel like second base for me at least, is
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: just more like you can sit back a little more
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: more of like a thinking position, uh rather than third
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: base to where you I mean you're basically playing hockey
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: goalie over there. Especially now, I mean these guys are
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: hitting the ball one hundred and twenty over there. At
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: you and you kind of just a kind of just
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: a punching bag for him. So you've got to you
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: got to find a way to lock in there for
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I mean a short amount of seconds and it's not
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of thinking, and sometimes that's good for a
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: lot of people, and sometimes it's not. In second base,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: sometimes you think too much, and sometimes that's good for people,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: and sometimes it's not. It's just kind of taking the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: mindset into the game knowing kind.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Of what you're gonna do. You're still fielding ground balls
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: that you've done your whole life.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it's easy or anything, but it's
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it's still hard to be able to switch positions and
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: being able to kind of take two different mindsets into
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: a game. But it's been good to me. I feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: feel pretty comfortable at either position right now. So just
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: kind of.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: More taking more ground balls.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I feel like infield's a thing where you can kind
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: of make a lot of reps and improve and there's
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: some things maybe in life that that's not the case.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: But you can just take a lot of reps there
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and try and just you know, get more use to everything.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's all really you can do, all right, Max I'm
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: just gonna keep it real with this question. You've not
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: yet played a major league game, I'm gonna guess you've
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: already gotten a little bit of taste of like the
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: business realities of baseball. Like this this summer, Tigers are
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: in first place. There are trade rumors everywhere. People like
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: me or like Max Anderson could be someone who makes sense.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Did any of that? Did you catch wind of that?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Did that impact you at all? This summer?
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I honestly think the Tigers do a pretty good job
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: of it of keeping it like kind of off of
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: like our minds almost, and it definitely will catch I
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: mean catch everybody by surprise when you do get traded,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: because you just kind of are going about your day,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: and I mean, we still have to play our week
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: of baseball games the week of the trade deadline, so
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: it's kind of crazy. We had a few experiences this year.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: One of my good buddies, Jim Jarvis, got traded to
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: the Braves, and that was like we were finishing our game.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: He walks out of the clubhouse like to take a call,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: and we're like, oh, he's calling his mom or something.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: And he comes back and he's like, oh, I'm getting
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: traded like and then everybody's like what, like I was
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: just out of nowhere, like and that's that's for the
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: most part, how it goes. And I think that's definitely
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: kind of like give and take, like pros and cons.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: But I think it's better that it's not like they're
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: not like constantly saying like, hey, we could do this,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: this and this, and then you got to go out
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: and face ninety eight and it's just like I'm thinking
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: about everything right now.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: It's it's a tough thing to balance, but it's a realistic.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Thing and that's why it is a business. And you
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: kind of know what you're getting into when you when
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: you when you get into it and when you finally
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: see it becomes real. Uh. But yeah, it's it's uh,
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: it's everything you make it. And he's kind of got
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: to keep on thinking about baseball and not the stuff outside.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Whatever happens happens.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's one of those things that it's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like partially a compliment because like again it's like people
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like us where we're just like making fake trays that
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: are completely meaningless. But it's like, well, if you want
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to get a good player, you have to give up
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: something good in return. So it's like, you know, these
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: people are like, well, you know Max is doing you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: pretty well here, maybe he could help be part of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a package you get this asset. But at the same time,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: it's also saying, well, I guess we don't like him
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: that much. We're willing to part with him. So it's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: like it's like a way compliment. It's kind of you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine what that's like to go through,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: but uh, for sure, you've paid several compliments to the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Tigers organization today, Max, and so like they're well regarded
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: with the farm system and the organizational structure and all
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And from the outside and mainly from the outside,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: it's all just like, oh, these are good players and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they might become good major league players. From the inside,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: why why are the Tigers a well run organization? Why
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: is the farm system highly regarded and successful and like
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: all these things?
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: From your perspective, yeah, I think I think genuinely, as
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: easy as it is, I think it's because they just
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: care about like the guys that they drafted.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: They they they've always kind of preached.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: That, like they want to draft the right guys, and
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I think that kind of that same mentality goes with
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: like having the right coaches in place, and that makes
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: a big difference in a player's career, is having you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: you have guys that want you to succeed.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: And I've heard stories.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Not like now, but like in the past of like
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: other organizations, like there's some some coaches just kind of
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: want to get their name connected to a player and
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: then move up. I don't get that sense in the
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Tigers organization, Like these guys like really want their players.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: To succeed and just like want to do anything to
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: help you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Uh So, I think that's a pretty awesome thing to
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: be able to. I mean, I had no choice of
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: where I was going. It was I like just got
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: put here and they drafted me and it just turned
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: out to be great for me. And that these guys
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: like you can talk to them whenever, Like we have
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: hitting coaches that will pick up the phone and just
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: kind of talk shop with you whenever. And infield guys
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: that no more than anything I could ever imagine about
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: infield that I have never even thought of that I'm
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: doing now.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: So they've they've expanded.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Expanded my knowledge of the game and helped me out
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: a bunch.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: What is an infield tip that you had never even
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: thought of that now you're thinking about all the time.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Oh man, A lot of off with pre pitches to
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: take off like time and agility, I mean to take
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: to add to add like agility and help you cover
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: a lot of it, a lot of ground, like just
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: like there's always the normal like pre pitch of what
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: you're doing. And then they come up to you with, uh,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: you know this new thing to try and you're like,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: well that feels good, Like.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Where'd you think of that?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: And like, I don't know, it's just it looked faster
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: when we saw someone else do it, and we thought
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: we should try it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And you know, it's baseball.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: You're looking at what other other other people are doing,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: and you know you gotta a copycat game.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: You're just trying to be the best player you can.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's crazy how much they look at
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: the game and care for their players.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, growing up in Omaha, what team are you a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fan of? Who's your favorite player?
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: So growing up, I was always a fan of the Royals. Uh,
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: it's just kind of the closest team. And then my
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: favorite player was Alex Gordon because he from Nebraska and
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: then went to the Royals, so kind of the Nebraska
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: career path, almost as close as you can to Nebraska.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So we were always fans of.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Him, and uh, he was an awesome, awesome baseball player
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: for a long time.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he certainly was. All right, A little bit of
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: like an off the wall question here, Max, Uh, not
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of baseball players wear glasses, so so I'm curious.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, you know, why you kind of chosen
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to to go that route, like on the field, Uh,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: there's is there anything any anything interesting behind that?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Nothing too interesting there is.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I mean when I was in high school, I had
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: so I first got in glasses and they're like, why
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: don't you try contacts like you play baseball. And the
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: first day I started wearing my glasses was my senior
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: year at high school and we had a aim that
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: night and so I and so I put them on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: I was good, and then I tried to put in
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: my contacts for the game. They're like, you probably shouldn't
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: wear your glasses might break and stuff. Couldn't get my
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: contacts in, and I got so mad and like just
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: was so pissed off and so I put my glasses
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: on and I went out there and had a great game.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: I think I hit two home runs with my glasses on.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: So from that moment on, I never even.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Thought about contacts. I just rolled with glasses.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: And that was back when I just four glasses like
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: these for my game, Like I didn't have any I.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Didn't have any specs.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I was just wearing my Harry Potter glasses out there
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: to play baseball and it worked out.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: And then got to Nebraska and.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: They finally hooked me up and said, you can't wear
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: these for the game, like you need some actual oak Ley's.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: So it was good.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: There you go, that's an upgrade.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Did they tell you to try to go contacts at
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: any point? And you were like, no, there was.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: There was never that much of a push I was.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think they knew the answer, so that
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: probably helped him to try and push me. But nobody's
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: really ever tried to make the change. I guess the
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: thing about it probably is if he's doing good, why
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: change anything?
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe, but.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I just I'm a fan of him and
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I've gotten so used to him. I don't know if
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: I could play without him.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, you ever get you ever get rizzed on
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the field for glasses, like you know, opponents, I mean,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you know Big ten baseball, college baseball. Yeah, fans can
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: be ruthless, you know you ever you ever hear from
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the crowd or even the opponents, even in the minors
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: anything more.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: In college, when I was a freshman and we went
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: to Arkansas, I was getting a lot. I was playing
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: third base then too, so not not very far away
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: from the home home fans and the home dug out there,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: so they were letting me have it there.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, well that's all good, Max. If you keep on
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: this trajectory, maybe we'll have a bunch of fans in
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the stands at Camerica wearing some some Max Anderson glasses
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: one day for sure.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think that's all I've got, Kierani,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: got anything else from Max?
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Well, just on that. I think it's a good way
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Like we've talked about off seasons
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff, like what is your expectations for
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, I can tell you what the fans
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: expectations are and what ours are for twenty twenty six.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: But like when you look at like this, you know
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it's all the same and you know, blah blah blah
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and all the cliche stuff, but yeah, the cusp of
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: something that is a childhood dream. So like, what is
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: your expectation for twenty twenty six and how are you
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: kind of preparing to meet that moment?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Uh, for me, I mean had a great off season
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: last year, so trying to do a lot of the
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: same stuff that I did that past off season. And
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: then I mean show up to spring training and you
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: know that's that's really where I mean, they got a
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: lot of their decisions already made and there's probably a
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: few few maybe you know, swing spots that they're gonna
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: make decisions on. But all you really can do, I guess,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: like with the trade deadline, like things are out of
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: your hands, Like all you can do is play as
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: good as possible. And uh, you know, at the end
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: of the day, like the old saying from a baseball guy,
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: like if if you hit like, they're gonna find a
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: spot for you. So I think, just gotta play as
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: good as you can and uh, you know, hope for
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: the best as as easy as that sounds, and boring
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: as it sounds like there's no magic stone or any
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: secret in front in baseball, like it's still the still.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: The same game.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: So yeah, just gotta just gotta keep going and keep
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: hitting and you know, hopefully things turn out good.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good mindset to have. And it's easy
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to get caught up in all this other stuff, especially
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: in this era of social media all that stuff, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you know, it's what happens between the white lines is
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: ultimately gonna They're gonna determine everything, and everybody's timeline is
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: different and it will happen when it's supposed to happen,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: right exactly. All right, Well, I want to thank Max
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: for coming on with us. A reminder you guys can
• 46:15
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• 46:19
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• 46:22
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• 46:25
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• 46:28
  Speaker 1: thank you and Max Anderson. Everybody have a great day.