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How Jean-Luc Brunel Used MC2 to Feed the Monster (Part 4) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up with the
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  Speaker 1: Maritza Vasquez deposition talking about MC squared, Jean Luc Brunel
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  Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein. Once again, Bradley Edwards is doing the
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  Speaker 1: questioning and Miss Vasquez is doing the answering. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what was Jeffrey Epstein getting out of MC squared? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that I can think he was getting
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  Speaker 1: was the girls, nothing else because he has all the money.
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  Speaker 1: Question and the company wasn't making money anyway, answer no question,
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  Speaker 1: And you know the company wasn't making money. Fasquez, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't at all at all. So the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: he was I believe that he wanted to get involved
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  Speaker 1: was because of the girls. That's it, Parro. He wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it legally, like girls coming here, even if
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  Speaker 1: they were underage or whatever with visas. Question because the
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  Speaker 1: modeling industry is one of those industries where there is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of girls under age coming into the country.
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  Speaker 1: Right answer, yes question. That's pretty easy access to underage girls.
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  Speaker 1: Answer yes question and they come into the country and
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  Speaker 1: they don't have their parents. Answer by Vasquez yes question.
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  Speaker 1: So they don't really have any parental supervision while they're here, Vasquez,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. Question. So the modeling industry is one
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  Speaker 1: that some guys use that to get underage girls, and
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  Speaker 1: that's happened for a long time. Right answer, yes question.
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  Speaker 1: So is what Jean Luke Brunel still does. Answer yes, question,
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  Speaker 1: still uses it to get underage girls to sleep with? Really,
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  Speaker 1: right Vasquez, Yes question, and Jeffrey Epstein too. Vasquez, I
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  Speaker 1: cannot tell you that because I don't know. I know,
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  Speaker 1: if there is there's some kind of relationship. I believe
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  Speaker 1: they will or he will. You know he still does it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. I cannot tell you that because
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  Speaker 1: I was never. I was never. What I can say
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  Speaker 1: what I know because I was with that person for
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  Speaker 1: the longest, was with Jean Luke Brunel, the same thing
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  Speaker 1: that I can tell you that even if he has
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  Speaker 1: a daughter, whatever, I put my hands on fire that
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Fuller is gay. Question Okay, And Jean Luke you
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  Speaker 1: saw him use cocaine at work, Vasquez, Not in the office,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes he was coming to the office, like with
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  Speaker 1: blood coming from the nose and white things here that
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  Speaker 1: he had to go, oh, you go and clean yourself
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  Speaker 1: or whatever you know. Question would he talk about his
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  Speaker 1: cocaine addiction? Vasquez not directly. But he was a box properly.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone knew about that, and he was the one the
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  Speaker 1: kind of person who didn't feel ashamed to tell. For example,
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  Speaker 1: Sergio was there and I was here, and he was there,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, Sergio, go and get me the
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  Speaker 1: best one, you know. And Sergio was going and going
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  Speaker 1: to get it for him. So he didn't really hide
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he used cocaine. Vasquez No, no, but
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  Speaker 1: not in the office, not in front of the bookers.
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  Speaker 1: Question where is the office in New York? Answer sixth
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  Speaker 1: West Street. And do you know what Khalid is doing now? Vasquez? No.
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  Speaker 1: Question is he in Miami? Vasquez, Yes, he's in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Question do you have his number? Vasquez? No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have his number. Question how about Mike Sanka Vasquez Mike Sanka,
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  Speaker 1: He's in California. Question what did he do? Vasquez? He represents,
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  Speaker 1: He represents artists, players, He's like a manager. Question did
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  Speaker 1: he have any role in procuring underage girls for anybody?
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  Speaker 1: Vasquez never, No, not at all. Question how about Arnaud Brunel. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: he is Jean Luke's brother. Question is he here in Miami?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no? Question where is he? Vasquez? Friends? Question? Has
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  Speaker 1: he ever been here in Miami? Answer yes. Question when's
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  Speaker 1: the last time you talked to him? Has it been
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  Speaker 1: a while? Answer by Vasquez two thousand and six, No,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Question Okay, is he close with
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  Speaker 1: Jean Luke? Answer no, Well he's his brother, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Question yeah, Vasquez, there is a blood relation there, but
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you it's like oil and water. Two
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  Speaker 1: different persons, two different heads, two different mentalities. Question who
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  Speaker 1: are the people? Answer a gentleman and a beast. Mister
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  Speaker 1: Arnaud Brunel is a gentleman, a very correct person, very transparent,
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  Speaker 1: and the other is the opposite. Question do you know
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  Speaker 1: a guy named Etienne? Answer Etian Ray. He was another
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  Speaker 1: partner of Jean Luke and Karens. Another gentleman, another real
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  Speaker 1: good person. Actually, Jean Luke screw him when he took
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  Speaker 1: him out of Karen's He closed Karen here in Miami
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  Speaker 1: without mister Etienne's knowledge. Question and if we talked to
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  Speaker 1: et Tione, he would not have nice things to say
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  Speaker 1: about Jean Luke Vasquez, No, not at all. Question what
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  Speaker 1: about answer Ruth? Question who is that? Answer Ruth, the
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  Speaker 1: other lady in Paris. It's the same thing. She will
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  Speaker 1: tell you everything. Jean Luke came from Paris. Question how
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  Speaker 1: do you spell her name? Vasquez? I don't know her name,
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  Speaker 1: her last name. I don't know. Her name is Ruth
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  Speaker 1: r U T H. Because if he stay in Paris,
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  Speaker 1: he had to pay taxes and this and that, everything
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  Speaker 1: that he was avoiding. Question who Jean Luke? Answer by Vasquez, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Jean Luke. Question do you know how he and Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein became friends? Answer? No question? Or why they became friends?
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  Speaker 1: Answer by Vasquez, No question, I mean other than underage girls?
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  Speaker 1: What else do those two have in common? Answer by Vazquez.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only thing I believe. And it's very you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I saw mister Epstein once in a gym in
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  Speaker 1: a church, very simple. And you see Jean Luke in
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  Speaker 1: the same place. And you see Jean Luke with a
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  Speaker 1: prod of pants and with Gucci T shirt and with
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  Speaker 1: adult Shay Caubana sunglasses. It's like two different characters. Question
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  Speaker 1: and how many girls at one time would MC squared
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  Speaker 1: have under them? Answer a lot like over two hundred
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  Speaker 1: or three hundred. Question Other than the one time where
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  Speaker 1: four girls were taken to Jeffrey's house and all four
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  Speaker 1: of those girls were under age at the time, right, Vasquez?
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  Speaker 1: Answer yes, question they were fourteen or fifteen at the time. Vasquez, yeah, fifteen, sixteen, fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Question Other than that time, what other occasion?
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  Speaker 1: Jog your memory? Think this through. Have you known of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein to be in the same vicinity as any
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  Speaker 1: of the models? Was there ever a time Jean Luke says, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey is coming up to New York this weekend. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to hang out out at the apartment or Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein is this? Answer? No, never, Jean Luke never mentioned
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  Speaker 1: his name until two thousand and three when actually mister
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  Speaker 1: Epstein got involved. To me, you know, to me prior
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  Speaker 1: to that. One more time you can talk to Eve.
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  Speaker 1: She knew Jeffrey Epstein prior prior to me. Question before
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  Speaker 1: you did. Answer yes, question, and she has seen him
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  Speaker 1: more often than you have. Answer, of course, because she
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  Speaker 1: was in New York all the time. She lives in
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  Speaker 1: New York and I never lived there. I was like
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  Speaker 1: commuting once a week in New York, two weeks in Miami,
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  Speaker 1: one week in New York, two weeks in Miami. Question
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  Speaker 1: are you leaving to go to Columbia soon? Vasquez to Peru.
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  Speaker 1: Question to Peru Fasquez, Yeah, question when Vasquez? The twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourth question? And do you know when you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be back? Answer the twenty eighth question. All right. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I would hope to think that this whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: that your involvement is completely done. However, there is one
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  Speaker 1: case that Jeffrey Epstein is not settled right now that
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  Speaker 1: could go to trial. If it went to trial, then
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  Speaker 1: we could be called at trial. But it's highly unlikely
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  Speaker 1: that that's going to happen. I'm just letting you know
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  Speaker 1: that it's a possibility. Emmy Taylor, do you know who
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  Speaker 1: that is? Answer no question. Claire Hazel answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Joel Pashcal answer no question. Lynn Fontanella answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Biddle answer no question. Cindy Lopez answer Cindy Lopez.
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  Speaker 1: I know I did mention her because I didn't remember
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  Speaker 1: her name. Now you say it. Cindy Lopez was a
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  Speaker 1: girl who was working for karens she was not under age,
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  Speaker 1: but she was a young girl. She was working for Karen's,
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  Speaker 1: she was studying, and she was living at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment.
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  Speaker 1: She was living at his place. Question and what was
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  Speaker 1: her involvement with Jean Luke and dor Jeffrey Epstein. Answer
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  Speaker 1: she was working at Karen's. Question okay as a model?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, she was an employee. Question she traveled on
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  Speaker 1: his airplane with them a lot? Answer yeah, because she's
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  Speaker 1: a personal friend of Jeffrey. She was living in his place.
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  Speaker 1: Question anything else about that? Answer? No question about her? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: No question in Coo Dirry answer, no question. Any other
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  Speaker 1: people that you know that we're living in that apartment
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  Speaker 1: at any time? Vasquez, No question other than the people
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  Speaker 1: that you named already, which are now Cindy Lopez, Juliana
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  Speaker 1: Barbosa and Aleno Weaver. Answer, I don't think Alena lived there.
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  Speaker 1: Alena was living in one of the model's apartments that
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  Speaker 1: we rent because besides those two apartments, we ran apartments
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  Speaker 1: in New York for the girls. Question who decides whether
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  Speaker 1: the girls live? He's interrupted by Vasquez. Jean Luke. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Jean Luke decides whether the girls live at three ZHO
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  Speaker 1: one that's owned by Jeffrey Epstein or the other apartments
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  Speaker 1: that are rented by mc'sque word answer yeah. Question and
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  Speaker 1: how does he make that determination? Answer he's the owner.
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  Speaker 1: Question Oh, but I mean, what are the qualifications? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if he likes the girl or they're underage or answer no.
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  Speaker 1: If they were like good girls, girls that they could
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  Speaker 1: make money, they were living in an expensive place. If
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  Speaker 1: they like were regular girls, they were living in shitty places.
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  Speaker 1: Question okay, but which one is Jeffrey Epstein's place? Answer
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  Speaker 1: an expensive place? Question okay, so the better models were
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  Speaker 1: living there? Answer yes, question redacted? Do you know who
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  Speaker 1: that is? Answer no question. Did you ever meet with
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  Speaker 1: Naomi Campbell? Answer no question. Did you know that she
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  Speaker 1: was friends with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no question. Did you
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  Speaker 1: ever meet Leslie Wexner? Answer that's the woman that's involved
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  Speaker 1: with mister Epstein. No question, No, Leslie Wexner is the
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  Speaker 1: owner of Victoria's Secret. Answer no question. Did you ever
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  Speaker 1: hear anything about Jeffrey Epstein's relationship who he was with male,
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  Speaker 1: female or a person's name? Answer I knew because he've
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  Speaker 1: told me that he had a relationship with a woman
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  Speaker 1: that her father was very wealthy, and that's how he
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  Speaker 1: started his own money. And if you tell me the name,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I can remember, but I don't. He trails off
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  Speaker 1: question Galenne Maxwell answer yes. Question and her father was
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  Speaker 1: Robert Maxwell. Answer yes. Question other than that relationship, are
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  Speaker 1: you aware of any other relationships of Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Question How many times are you aware of Jean Luke
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  Speaker 1: bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home in Palm Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Answer while I was there, when I was working with them,
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe two three times a year the last year,
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  Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and three, two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Question and how would you know?
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  Speaker 1: Answer not? Prior to that question, how would you know
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  Speaker 1: that Jean Luke was taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house.
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  Speaker 1: Answer because he was saying in the office, there is
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  Speaker 1: a party at Jeffrey's house. I'm taking the girls, and
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  Speaker 1: the girls and they were in town. They were underage girls.
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  Speaker 1: Question we're still talking about fourteen fifteen? Answer by Basquez
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  Speaker 1: sixteen yeah, question sixteen at the oldest. Answer yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: they were going the other girls too. But he he
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  Speaker 1: personally was taking the little ones, because the other ones
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  Speaker 1: they could go in their own cars or whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with their boyfriends. Question did you ever say anything to
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  Speaker 1: them about taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: You know, as a mother, I always told him that
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  Speaker 1: they were underage girls, and he was saying, oh that
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  Speaker 1: I'm their father. Question but you knew what was going on? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: Not really, not really, not really, not that because I
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  Speaker 1: would never think that they were going to a party,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't I know, mister Epstein in that scenario.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know Jean Luke was crazy or is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but not stupid to be with those particular girls, because
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  Speaker 1: these girls were coming from a very good friend of
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  Speaker 1: him in Brazil. Question and who is that? Answer? And
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  Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't remember her name, the mother agent
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  Speaker 1: of these four girls. I gave it to you before.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember her name. It's a black woman. Question
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  Speaker 1: it's not caushe answer, no, what's her name? Question? Because
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  Speaker 1: I have that part of the report right here stating
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  Speaker 1: that Brunel had a connection with a young Brazilian woman,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't have the name of that person. Answer, No,
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  Speaker 1: he was having a connection with a woman in Brazil,
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  Speaker 1: that she was giving him prostitutes when he needed it.
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  Speaker 1: Question that woman in Brazil was giving Jean Luke prostitutes?
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  Speaker 1: Answer real prostitutes when he needed it? Question how old
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  Speaker 1: were these prostitutes? Answer I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: because I was never in Brazil with him or nothing
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  Speaker 1: like that. Answer in Brazil. Question in Brazil that was
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  Speaker 1: in Brazil? Question was Jeffrey involved in these? Answer Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was going to Brazil because he was one or
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  Speaker 1: two clients that was from there. So they were going,
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  Speaker 1: they were meeting there and everything like that. Question. So
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  Speaker 1: you know of at least occasions where Jeffrey Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: Jean Luke were in Brazil. Answer yes, question and there
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  Speaker 1: was a particular person that would provide prostitutes for them?
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  Speaker 1: Answer yeah, because one time, I know, because Jean Luke
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  Speaker 1: say it to me openly. Question what did he say?
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  Speaker 1: Answer that that woman was giving him, not models, there
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  Speaker 1: were prostitutes. Question in my notes it says underage prostitutes?
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  Speaker 1: Is that something that? Answer? Yeah, maybe they were underage
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  Speaker 1: girls like sixteen, seventeen eighteen. All right, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: wrap up right here, and in the next episode, We're
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  Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off. All of
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  Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
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