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Daniel Davis Deep Dive · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck King Ramont fifty five krc A talk station.
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  Speaker 3: I can see him doing it. The only pro Vietnam
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  Speaker 3: movie ever made, John Wayne, the Green Beret. Welcome back
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel for the Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
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  Speaker 3: Finding where you find your podcast just search for Daniel
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  Speaker 3: Davis Deep Dive. And of course let me start off
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  Speaker 3: by thanking you for your well on your your service
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  Speaker 3: to our country, which is currently ongoing in the form
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  Speaker 3: of your commentary related to military matters. It's great to
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  Speaker 3: have you on the show again, Daniel Davis.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Always a great pleasure to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Happy Veterans Day, sir. Before we get to, of course,
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  Speaker 3: whatever's going on between Israel and the Palestinians and Russia
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  Speaker 3: and Ukraine, which apparently took a turn for the worse
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  Speaker 3: for Ukraine recently, I want to ask you about your
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  Speaker 3: your reaction to yesterday's meeting with the Syrian president. He's
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  Speaker 3: agreed to enter into a coalition to fight ISIS and
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  Speaker 3: terrorism and generally stabilize the region in return for reductionist
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  Speaker 3: sanctions from the US and playing along economically for his
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  Speaker 3: citizen's own benefit. Bashar al Asad would never have done this,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't think in my lifetime we'd ever see
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  Speaker 3: a step toward this type of agreement, as limited as
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  Speaker 3: it may be in my lifetime, considering Syria being Syria.
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  Speaker 3: Your reaction to the development from yesterday, Sir, I.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta say I'm torn, and I'm gonna hold my judgment
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  Speaker 2: until we see what happens in time, clearly because we
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  Speaker 2: can't lose side of the fact that just a few
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  Speaker 2: months ago this guy was had a ten million dollar
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  Speaker 2: i think reward on his head by the US government
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  Speaker 2: for there are terrorist activities that he had done, and
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  Speaker 2: he is part of Alnwiser, as part of ISIS and
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  Speaker 2: several others what we considered terrorist groups, and then you
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  Speaker 2: know he has a change of heart.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I am all about doing what makes sense for our country,
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  Speaker 2: and if we can make a deal with somebody that
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  Speaker 2: increases our security, that causes us to be able to
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  Speaker 2: redeploy and leave troops behind, that we have in Syria
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  Speaker 2: right now, which I'm told by a certain member of
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  Speaker 2: the administration just days ago that that is the case,
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  Speaker 2: that we were planning to remove all of our troops
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  Speaker 2: from Syria by September of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Big time supporter of that. Yes, if this works.
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  Speaker 2: And if it holds, and if it brings peace and
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  Speaker 2: help to the people of Syria and reduces our exposure
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  Speaker 2: in the region, then it's a great thing and I'm
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  Speaker 2: all for it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's like.
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  Speaker 3: The Italians getting rid of Mussolinian getting away from the
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  Speaker 3: Axis Powers before World War Two is over. Maybe he
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  Speaker 3: realized he's on the losing side and this growing coalition
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  Speaker 3: of what I'll well down to the in the idea
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  Speaker 3: of the Abraham of Coorse, let's play nice together for
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  Speaker 3: our own mutual benefit and put aside our differences. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he just sees that is the future for the region.
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  Speaker 3: This is where my optimism comes from, Daniel Davis. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's false.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, look, self interest is definitely at play here.
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  Speaker 2: And if we know anything at all about a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the way things work in the air world for decades,
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  Speaker 2: and you could probably go back centuries.
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  Speaker 1: The friend of my friend.
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  Speaker 2: A friend of my enemy is my friend, and if
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  Speaker 2: he sees a benefit to work together with us today,
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  Speaker 2: he can do it. And if things change two years
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  Speaker 2: from now, he'll do that too. And you know, we
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  Speaker 2: certainly can't forget the time when we had during the
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  Speaker 2: Sons of Iraq, during our big problem that we had
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  Speaker 2: with him during the two thousand and five seven period,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, for reasons that made sense to
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  Speaker 2: them on the ground, they joined forces with us after
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  Speaker 2: having been fighting us the day before, and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, now then we're their friends, were giving
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  Speaker 2: them money, and that dramatic we reduce the amount of
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  Speaker 2: violence against the American troops and eventually pay the way
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  Speaker 2: for us to leave our combat troops there at least
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  Speaker 2: for a period of time. So it can work, but
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  Speaker 2: you have to understand it's a transient thing, and the
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  Speaker 2: minute that things change for them, they'll change on the
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  Speaker 2: other side. So we have to always keep a wary
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  Speaker 2: eye on that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, back to your concept before, when the Russians had
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  Speaker 3: invaded Afghanistan, we cuddled up with the m Jahadeen and
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  Speaker 3: some of the other just because they are against the Russians.
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  Speaker 3: And then where do we find our once we go
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  Speaker 3: into Afghanistan. I hate to laugh over that tragedy, but
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  Speaker 3: there's another illustration of your point. The enemy of my
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  Speaker 3: enemy is my friend until the other enemy is not
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  Speaker 3: there anymore. Daniel Davis, let us move over. Apparently, I
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  Speaker 3: see the headline we are losing polk Rovos, Russia Near's
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  Speaker 3: biggest gain since Bachhmut this this morning, and that obviously
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  Speaker 3: means territorial gains to the advantage of the Russians, but
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  Speaker 3: also on the heels of and we experienced our first
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  Speaker 3: win blast here in the greater Cincinnati areas down to
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  Speaker 3: the twenties, and we had to deal with some snow
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  Speaker 3: on the ground. That happened on the same day I
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  Speaker 3: read about Russia hitting a lot of Ukrainians power sources,
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  Speaker 3: ultimately resulting in zero power or energy, which I perceived
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  Speaker 3: to be as freezing Ukrainians. So amid all this, what's
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  Speaker 3: your assessment of the situation between those two countries.
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  Speaker 2: The situation in pakrolskis is almost completely gone. The city
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  Speaker 2: of Pakrosk itself is all but gone. There's just a
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  Speaker 2: few outlying neighborhoods and groupings of buildings on the very
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  Speaker 2: far outskirts on the north and northeastern quadrants of the city.
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  Speaker 2: The bigger issue is that there are some number of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of Ukrainians trapped in the sister city of Mirinograd
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  Speaker 2: right next to it. There's another grouping in the south
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  Speaker 2: and kind of a forested, patched area where Ukraine has
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  Speaker 2: been defending for quite a long time. They're now physically
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  Speaker 2: surrounded and Ukraine is fighting really hard on a city
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  Speaker 2: call Rodenska, actually it's more like a medium sized town
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  Speaker 2: up north of that. They're trying fiercely to try to
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  Speaker 2: break through the Russian positions, to try and open up
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  Speaker 2: a corridor so that those troops in Mirnograd can escape.
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  Speaker 2: It remains to be seen whether they'll succeed on that.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't in many other areas, because Russia, according to
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  Speaker 2: General Sirski from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has about one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand reserve forces in the area, and
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  Speaker 2: if Ukraine serves to have success there, it seems reasonable
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  Speaker 2: to presume that Russia would flood those reserves in and
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  Speaker 2: close that off.
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  Speaker 1: If Russia is completely able to close the pinchers.
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  Speaker 2: And Ukraine can't unblock it, it's not just the loss
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  Speaker 2: of the city, the political loss, but then it'll be
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  Speaker 2: the twin cities lost and all the troops that are
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  Speaker 2: trained profited as well, and it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: real big problem, even bigger.
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  Speaker 1: Than it might seem.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's issues going on also in the Kupeonsk area.
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  Speaker 2: There was a overnight there was reports that Russia had
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  Speaker 2: crossed a certain river inside there and taken a rail
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  Speaker 2: station that was deep inside Ukraine lines. And then some
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  Speaker 2: other areas also on this Slabyansky Chromatursk area of the
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  Speaker 2: Donetsk All of this is really starting to get pretty wabbly,
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  Speaker 2: and it could be a really ugly winter for not
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  Speaker 2: just the people there on the front line, but also
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  Speaker 2: back in the capital city and other places. And also,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw in the New York
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  Speaker 2: Times is reporting yesterday there's been this big problem inside
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  Speaker 2: the Ukraine government where one of the guys that we
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  Speaker 2: were helping funnel money into Ukraine for drone production turns
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  Speaker 2: out he was actually siphoning off the top to the
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  Speaker 2: tune of one hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: He has now fled.
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  Speaker 2: There's a man hunt for him, and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: he was a really close confidant of Vloid mr Zelinsky.
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  Speaker 1: So not a good look for the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: Size, and which confirms what many people in my listening audience,
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  Speaker 3: and certainly I include myself in this group. You know
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  Speaker 3: what's really happening to all the money? I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: fog of war is bad enough, and when you're funding
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  Speaker 3: a war or a lot of money can go by
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  Speaker 3: the wayside and go missing. We've seen this time and
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  Speaker 3: time and time and time and time again with dictators
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  Speaker 3: or regimes that we've supported when they have to flee
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  Speaker 3: the country because they get overrun. They end up on
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  Speaker 3: a plane with billions of US dollars in currency and
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  Speaker 3: live lavish lives in the aftermath. So I can't abide
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  Speaker 3: any of that. So I does this do these losses
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  Speaker 3: or you know, impending losses, what's going on right now
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  Speaker 3: with the surrounding of the troops, does that create an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity perhaps for Zelenski to maybe say, listen, we can't
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  Speaker 3: afford this loss of life anymore in the name of humanity.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to negotiate a peace agreement that it does
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  Speaker 3: in fact involves the conceding some of the land to
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  Speaker 3: the Russians in order to end this bloody conflict. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: some point, somebody's got to say that out loud.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we have passed that point, because he
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  Speaker 2: showed when they refuse to give a similar order to
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  Speaker 2: preserve their troops Bachmut nearly two years ago in Avdifka.
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  Speaker 2: Shortly after that in the Kursk operation where they had
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  Speaker 2: this penetration into Russia which never had any prayer of
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  Speaker 2: accomplishing anything for Ukraine, they ended up sacrificing about seventy
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  Speaker 2: thousand killed, and of course after eight months you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: tell they were ever there.
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  Speaker 1: It was a complete and total loss.
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  Speaker 2: And now here we are in Kromatura or sorry, in Vokrosk,
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  Speaker 2: in the Milograd area, the same dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: They refuse to get them out.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're trying belatedly to break them out, but we
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  Speaker 2: don't even know that that's what they're doing. They may
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  Speaker 2: simply be trying to re establish it. They may not
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  Speaker 2: be trying to get them out. So even if they
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  Speaker 2: broke through, who knows whether they would allow their troops
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  Speaker 2: to leave. I doubt it, and his Zelenski's commentary continues
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  Speaker 2: to be really boisterous and kind of in your face,
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  Speaker 2: and we're not giving up anything.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I don't think they'll come a point.
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  Speaker 2: I think that either we're going to have to pull
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  Speaker 2: the plug on him or he's going to take his
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  Speaker 2: country to complete destruction.
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  Speaker 3: Were you kind of anticipated what I was going to
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  Speaker 3: ask you on along those lines, Let's say, a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years ago, the idea of US military aid, and
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  Speaker 3: of course European military aid was still a pretty strong concept.
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  Speaker 3: We were giving them aid, we were entertaining questions for
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  Speaker 3: more missiles, et cetera, et cetera. I think we got
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  Speaker 3: the end of our rope on that we've all talked
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  Speaker 3: about supply chain issues, the expense of patriot missiles versus
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  Speaker 3: the actual drones that they're that are being used in war,
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  Speaker 3: and the ridiculous notion of using patriots against drones, Tomahawk missiles,
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  Speaker 3: and any equation. We talked about the having to need
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  Speaker 3: American soldiers and troops to actually operate those, which is
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  Speaker 3: a big red flag for most people. But given what
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  Speaker 3: and again correct me, because you're following this far more
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  Speaker 3: close closer than I am, it just seems to me
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  Speaker 3: that the idea based on everything you've even said on
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  Speaker 3: this right, Ukraine is losing and it seems that all
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  Speaker 3: the weapons in the world are not going to better
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  Speaker 3: at situation militarily, as this war rage is on that
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  Speaker 3: maybe that practical reality is kind of settled in somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in Ukraine, whether or not Zelensky has he seems to
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  Speaker 3: just be just you know, spitting in the wind or
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  Speaker 3: something like that. He's not facing reality. So is there
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  Speaker 3: a different element, perhaps a play here given the global perception.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you there's an additional problem that
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  Speaker 2: cannot be overlooked, and that is the fact that Zelensky
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  Speaker 2: is being greatly encouraged and supported emotionally and otherwise by Europe.
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  Speaker 2: And you have here Starmer of uk Manuel Macrone of France,
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  Speaker 2: Chancellor Metz from Germany. They are emphatically and enthusiastically saying, no,
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  Speaker 2: keep going, don't stop in Britain. Here's some more storm
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  Speaker 2: shadow missiles you can fire deeper into Russia, and here's
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  Speaker 2: some other components you need. You can hit Russia's oil infrastructure,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. And they're doing some of that. And on
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  Speaker 2: the one hand, you may say, well, that's fair game.
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  Speaker 2: You're in a war, they can do that, and that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: and as long as it produces something positive for your
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  Speaker 2: side and gives you a chance to either succeed or
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  Speaker 2: push the Russians back. But if all it does is
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  Speaker 2: infuriate the Russians and it's not a fraction enough to
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  Speaker 2: change the dynamics, and all you do is increase the
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  Speaker 2: chance that Ukraine will be crushed and there won't be
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  Speaker 2: a negotiat settlement.
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  Speaker 1: They'll just be a defeat. That's what I really had problem.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not just Zelensky, but it's the European leaders
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  Speaker 2: who are definitely detached from reality.
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  Speaker 3: So you confirm what I was thinking in the back
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  Speaker 3: of my mind. In spite of yeah, they continue to
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  Speaker 3: encourage a man who's delusional, which suggests they too are
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  Speaker 3: delusional with regard to the perception of the war.
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  Speaker 2: Either they're delusional or they're just unconcerned about the cost
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  Speaker 2: on the Ukraine side, And as long as they can
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  Speaker 2: get people to hit Russia and cause them pain on
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  Speaker 2: the way out, they're okay with it, which then you
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  Speaker 2: get into these just flat immorality of it, and I
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  Speaker 2: fear were as much in there as we are delusion.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe we're missing a little piece here, because of
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  Speaker 3: course we've issued tons and tons of sanctions on Russia.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to prevent them from selling their oil in
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  Speaker 3: the open market, we're trying to impact their economy. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: these quick hits and strikes on you know, energy production
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  Speaker 3: facilities and oil facilities that may not mean a whit
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  Speaker 3: militarily speaking, is having a greater impact on Russia's economy,
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  Speaker 3: thus achieving a broader objective.
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  Speaker 2: If there was some evidence to that, then that would
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  Speaker 2: be a legitimate because that is a legitimate concept, but
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  Speaker 2: only in so far as it actually works. And when
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  Speaker 2: you have seen nineteen rounds of if sanctions not have
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  Speaker 2: any effect whatsoever on the front line, and you can
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  Speaker 2: draw a logical line that number twenty, which they're working
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  Speaker 2: on right now, and we're talking about literally just yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: If nineteen field maybe twenty will work, it's absurd. And
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  Speaker 2: then what you can't do with what these sanctions are
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  Speaker 2: is draw a line to how that's going to impact
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  Speaker 2: Russia that would in any way affect the political decision
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  Speaker 2: making in Moscow. As a matter of fact, all it's
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  Speaker 2: doing is doubling down the certainty within Russia and within
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  Speaker 2: the political realm that there's.
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  Speaker 1: No talking here. All we need to do is completely win.
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  Speaker 2: So it's having literally the opposite effect, and you can
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  Speaker 2: observe it. So now we seem to return back again
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  Speaker 2: to the delusional thing.
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  Speaker 1: We want this to work.
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  Speaker 2: I just going to pretend that it will, even though
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  Speaker 2: evidence screams that it won't.
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  Speaker 1: So we have some really big problems in the West.
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  Speaker 3: Straight talk from you, man, We can always count on that.
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  Speaker 3: So I love having you on the show. Daniel Davis
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  Speaker 3: fifty five KRC Morning Show edition of Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
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  Speaker 3: God bless you, sir, and again a very happy Veterans Day,
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  Speaker 3: and thanks from my entire listening audience for your service
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  Speaker 3: to our country.
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  Speaker 1: Sir, Thank you very kindly. I really appreciate that.
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