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Set 1: Punched Without Hesitation · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep.
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  Speaker 3: Murray, Murray, you there.
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  Speaker 2: You love sandwiches.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, Let's go to uh eighty.
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  Speaker 3: He was bo.
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  Speaker 2: Wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on
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  Speaker 2: Betty Rubble.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Stu gottson Company Stuckgotts and Company presented
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  Speaker 1: by FanDuel and the FanDuel Sportsbook. We are back from
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  Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. I have moved to the east here over
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  Speaker 1: to Cape cod As he's down in South Florida. Mikey
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  Speaker 1: and connecam closer to Mikey. Finally that I am Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Taylor back from the Cape as well. Taylor, how'd you
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  Speaker 1: feel about Marty fish wedding that thing? What a round
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  Speaker 1: he put up. We'll get to Bam and Tyler Herro
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  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas in a fight, and we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in just a second. And Lebron James is waiting
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  Speaker 1: around for the slowest we Good Sports, which is this week,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe he'll finally announce which team he's going to.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you feel about Marty Fish winning a third a
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  Speaker 1: third Lake Tahoe Tournament, Taylor, let me.
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  Speaker 4: Be the first to congratulate Marty Fish on a third
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  Speaker 4: American Century Championship.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you should be able to win three
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  Speaker 4: American Century Championships. Get somebody else a chance.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 6: This stuff drives me nuts when I play flag football
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  Speaker 6: and it's some team in the Sea Division that definitely
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  Speaker 6: should not be in the Sea Division.
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  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Graduate.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so you guys are saying that Marty's game has
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  Speaker 1: outgrown the American Century Championship, that he is too good
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  Speaker 1: to play in that tournament, even though he was challenged yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Marty Pavelski, Borderline, Steph Curry, Tony Romo is a multiple
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  Speaker 4: time champion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The spirit of this tournament is celebrities that are supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be out there hacking it the common folks. Marty
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  Speaker 4: Fish is like PGA Tour level.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta start it with a negative score. Yes, No,
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  Speaker 5: he's too good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there was a shot my dad and I
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  Speaker 1: were watching together there was a shot.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was on the eleventh hole where he's
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty out.
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  Speaker 1: He grabbed a pitching wedge for crying out loud from
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  Speaker 1: one to sixty and he just dropped it three feet
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  Speaker 1: from the hole and putted for birdie.
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  Speaker 5: He's good.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas called him the greatest golfer, non PGA tour
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  Speaker 1: player that he's ever played with. He's that good. But
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  Speaker 1: you guys think he shouldn't be in any sort of
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  Speaker 1: celebrity championship because in terms of celebrity, he's got too
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  Speaker 1: much time on his hands. That's the problem. I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm with Taylor on this. He practices too much.
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna start seeing Marty fish blow some tournaments at
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  Speaker 7: the end there. Oh, I guess I just missed that putt,
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  Speaker 7: because if they're gonna start kicking me out if I win.
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  Speaker 2: Too much, he's just gonna be like I'd.
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  Speaker 7: Rather keep coming back and finishing a second and third place.
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  Speaker 1: Way Taylor, how many in the lead up to Lake Tahoe?
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  Speaker 1: How many tournaments where we told that Marty played in?
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  Speaker 1: What was the number again? Was it eight to nine tournaments?
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  Speaker 3: It was nine? Since January?
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  Speaker 1: All right, so he's played in nine tournaments since January
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  Speaker 1: on the Celebrity Tour.
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  Speaker 2: Romo played in one of those.
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  Speaker 6: Would you rather, however, play in the American Century Championship
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  Speaker 6: in Lake Tahoe every year and then a few other
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  Speaker 6: tournaments or the Corn Ferry Tour, Like, he's not gonna
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  Speaker 6: go straight to PGA, right, so he's got to play
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  Speaker 6: in this other tour.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just like, yeah, no, I'm good here with
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  Speaker 5: these other celebs as good as he is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he will.
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  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't want to do the Corn Ferry Tour.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm with whoever suggested that Marty needs to
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  Speaker 1: tank these once in a while. I'm with them just
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  Speaker 1: to keep him, just to keep himself there. Otherwise they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna kick him out. It's anti climactic.
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  Speaker 4: I want the golf to be worse from Tahoe, Like
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  Speaker 4: I want Ray Romano shooting a ninety six one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and ninety seven to have a chance to win, Like
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  Speaker 4: that's I want the entire field to be full of Romano's.
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  Speaker 6: I saw and one Chills Barkley hit a ball that
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  Speaker 6: nearly hit people on a beach, and I was like, see,
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  Speaker 6: that's the amateur golf that I want to see.
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  Speaker 2: You want Trey Wingo to win, Taylor, you want rich
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  Speaker 2: Eison to win?
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  Speaker 3: Is that you want to Rich Eyes and it's got
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  Speaker 3: no shot to win.
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  Speaker 1: He's terribly golf, which makes me wonder.
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  Speaker 2: Couple.
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  Speaker 5: You guys were existing in a different place than the
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  Speaker 5: rest of us. In Tahoe. It was just do you
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  Speaker 5: even know what else was going on in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard when you're like Tahoe it is it is hot, Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: it is hard to follow what else is going on
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  Speaker 1: in the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you so much.
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  Speaker 1: So, I had no idea that Dan Patrick and the
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  Speaker 1: WNBA commissioner were in a beep and they were both there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, nobody got punched in that one though, thankfully what.
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  Speaker 1: Happened there is he Let's go to Vegas. What happened
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  Speaker 1: with Bam and Tyler Herro here?
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  Speaker 6: Oh man, you guys were definitely in a bubble there.
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  Speaker 6: If you're not filled in, it was the most sensational
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  Speaker 6: story of the weekend. I'm just gonna give you the
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  Speaker 6: story as I understand it happened, not just that one incident,
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  Speaker 6: because it's funny. I think I might have talked to
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  Speaker 6: Taylor about this a couple of weeks ago. I was
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  Speaker 6: told so basically, when they honest stuff happened, I was
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  Speaker 6: told that the Tyler and Bam relationship has been bad
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  Speaker 6: for a while that though, and then after the trade happened,
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  Speaker 6: or at least news of the trade happened, that things
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  Speaker 6: got worse and that it was almost to a situation where,
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  Speaker 6: even though they weren't technically going to be teammates anymore,
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  Speaker 6: that somebody had to step in because it was going
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  Speaker 6: to get ugly. And I think I told Taylor something
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  Speaker 6: like that, And so when I heard this news, I
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  Speaker 6: was like wow, because apparently Stu, they were having they
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  Speaker 6: meaning the Bucks and the Heat were both sharing practice
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  Speaker 6: courts at a set up by a hotel, and for
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  Speaker 6: some reason, Tyler's AAU team was there, but and they
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  Speaker 6: both or Bam showed up. Tyler was reportedly talking smack
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  Speaker 6: from a distance. Bam approached Tyler hero and quote punched
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  Speaker 6: him without hesitation, and then they got separate, and then
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  Speaker 6: they got sort of separated, and then they both eventually
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  Speaker 6: left on their own, and later that afternoon, the Bucks
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  Speaker 6: in the Heat played in Subber League and Tyler was
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  Speaker 6: court side and Tyler got hello to that person who
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  Speaker 6: was behind you the camera. Tyler didn't have a comment
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  Speaker 6: on the fight and said everything's cool in Miami, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of oh. And then there was a
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  Speaker 6: response from Draymond Green which was kind of ridiculous, where
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  Speaker 6: Draymond Green said that he was disappointed in you Donna's
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  Speaker 6: haslam because you Donnis raised these guys and yet here
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  Speaker 6: they are fighting when Eudonnas was critical of Draymond when
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  Speaker 6: Draymond punched Jordan Poole, who, by the way, we're still
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  Speaker 6: teammates and they were coming off a championship, so it's
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  Speaker 6: entirely different. And then you know, your Donna's responds by
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  Speaker 6: saying Draymond's a clown. And this has been you know,
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  Speaker 6: like I said, it's been brewing for a while, this
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  Speaker 6: between Tyler and Bam.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm just.
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  Speaker 6: Curious from your guys' perspective due this is the first
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  Speaker 6: year hearing of this. Taylor, I'm pretty sure you heard
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  Speaker 6: of this, and Mikey too. What does this make BAM
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  Speaker 6: look like? Because I'll give you a little bit more context,
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  Speaker 6: like this, again, this isn't new to even this season,
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  Speaker 6: if you watched an eighty three point game that Bam
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  Speaker 6: scored and watched Tyler, he was nowhere near as happy
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  Speaker 6: as the rest of his teammates. You can tell he
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  Speaker 6: just was kind of a little calm and holding back.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, over time, it's just been that way,
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  Speaker 6: and Bam has still held this in. Bam has not
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  Speaker 6: really gone off on Tyler. BAM has not really gone
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  Speaker 6: off on the guy who is hurt all the time,
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  Speaker 6: even though BAM's playing through stuff and plays all the time.
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  Speaker 6: And then Tyler not only h was talking smack through
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  Speaker 6: dms with a fan Stugats, a fan from Toronto who's
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  Speaker 6: not even a Tyler Hero fan, was dming him and
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  Speaker 6: they were going back and forth. That judgment of Tyler
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  Speaker 6: Hero of dming actual feelings with a fan is ridiculous,
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  Speaker 6: and that fan exposed those dms, and Tyler also on
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  Speaker 6: his Instagram posted an image of the league's worst mid
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  Speaker 6: range shooters percentage wise. One of them was Yiannis and
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  Speaker 6: one of them was Bam, And so it's just it's
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  Speaker 6: sort of petty behavior from Tyler, and BAM had just
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  Speaker 6: had enough and reacted this way.
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  Speaker 5: Some people are saying it was a cool.
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  Speaker 6: Thing of Bam really showing his you know, his dominance finally,
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  Speaker 6: and other people are saying it's pretty weak because they
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  Speaker 6: weren't even teammates anymore, and he could have just let
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  Speaker 6: Tyler look like a sore loser or a cry baby
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  Speaker 6: on his way out the door. To me, I find
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  Speaker 6: it shocking that Bam has gotten to this level of
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  Speaker 6: frustrated because if you pay attention to him in general,
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  Speaker 6: a you know, I've heard he's an awkward leader sometimes
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  Speaker 6: and that maybe people don't always listen to him the
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  Speaker 6: same way they might to a you know, a Eudonis
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  Speaker 6: or a Jimmy Butler or.
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  Speaker 5: Dwayne back in the day.
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  Speaker 6: But he's also yeah, he's also somebody that people want
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  Speaker 6: to step up and people want to have that type
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  Speaker 6: of attitude. And this is the first example of this
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  Speaker 6: that we're getting. So the reaction has been kind of
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  Speaker 6: all over the place. What do you guys think after
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  Speaker 6: hearing that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's start here.
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  Speaker 1: I think Mikey ives asked a very good question in
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  Speaker 1: the group text. Here is punch without hesitation code for
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  Speaker 1: sucker punch. That's the first tail. I put that on
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  Speaker 1: the pall because I do feel like he sucker punched
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Herro at a moment where Tyler Hero probably wasn't
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  Speaker 1: expecting it in Vegas, and Hero's probably thinking to myself, man,
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  Speaker 1: you had seven years down there to punch me in
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  Speaker 1: the face.
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  Speaker 2: You wait until we got the Vegas.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, Well, he didn't want to punch
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  Speaker 7: his teammate respect and punched without hesitation.
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  Speaker 3: Feels like how a lawyer would.
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  Speaker 5: Say, you sucker punched somebody at court.
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  Speaker 1: Is he So people are criticizing Bam because BAM was
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  Speaker 1: well aware of Tyler's, of Tyler's feelings towards Bam and
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  Speaker 1: his game essentially before Tyler got traded away, and so
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  Speaker 1: for Bam to now bring it up once Tyler is
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  Speaker 1: no longer a member of the Heat, people are criticizing
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  Speaker 1: him for that.
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  Speaker 2: Not see.
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  Speaker 6: I think what people are critical of is not that
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  Speaker 6: he It's just that he went this far period. It's
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  Speaker 6: that he you know that he wants to face Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you want to You can leave Tyler hero and his
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  Speaker 6: complaining and his dming with a fan and him posting
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: sore loser type of stuff on. You can just leave
• 11:47
  Speaker 6: that beat and let him dangle in the wind and
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: he can show who he is. But I think this
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  Speaker 6: was a product, like I said, of the years and
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: years of frustration, Like Tyler is upset because BAM didn't
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  Speaker 6: have his back during all these trade rumors over the years.
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: What is BAM supposed to say, No, don't trade Tyler
• 12:05
  Speaker 6: for Kevin Durant, don't trade Tyler for Jannis Antetokoumpo, like
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  Speaker 6: he was clearly being traded for people that would be
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  Speaker 6: an upgrade.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that BAM doesn't need to punch him
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  Speaker 1: at all. BAM won, He's still in Miami. Tyler was
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  Speaker 1: the guy who got traded. BAM's the guy who's gonna
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: play with Giannis.
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  Speaker 2: Bam is the.
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  Speaker 1: Guy that Riley and Spell valued more than Tyler Herro.
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  Speaker 1: So therefore BAM has already won. There was no reason
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  Speaker 1: to sucker punch Tyler hero because he's immature in Las
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Vegas when he's not expecting it. There is zero reasons.
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  Speaker 1: That's a terrible job by Bam.
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  Speaker 2: It really you won.
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  Speaker 1: You're still in Miami, You're still not paying state taxes,
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  Speaker 1: you're still playing for the organization that people want to
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  Speaker 1: play for, and you're playing next to Giannis.
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  Speaker 6: You won, right, And that's the criticism, which is why
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  Speaker 6: I ask man, it had to get so bad for
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  Speaker 6: him to do this, because he didn't come close to
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: doing this when they were together. He never like, how
• 13:00
  Speaker 6: many times have you seen them arguing on the court,
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  Speaker 6: Like you don't even see that, right, So it had
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  Speaker 6: to have festered so much that Bam, who, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: bit of an awkward leader, not the real, in your
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  Speaker 6: face guy that we've seen in the past, and yet
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  Speaker 6: it came to this, And so that's where I'm just like, Man,
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  Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if there's even more behind
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  Speaker 6: the scenes or if it really was just an immature
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  Speaker 6: move from Bam. Maybe he had people in his ear saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you can't let him.
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  Speaker 3: Do that to you. There's got to be a video
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  Speaker 3: of this that's coming out, right.
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  Speaker 5: It has to.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's happened in what a hotel ballroom set up,
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  Speaker 6: So if the hotel doesn't have video, you're talking about
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  Speaker 6: if Tyler's AAU team was there, you know, guys are
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  Speaker 6: out with cameras the whole time. If Bam is approaching Tyler,
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  Speaker 6: I'm putting up my camera immediately, so you know, there's
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  Speaker 6: got to be at least a couple of people if
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: they're in there with their phones accessible with videos. So yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and it'd be interesting to see if somebody gets ahead
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  Speaker 6: of that. Right Tyler has publicly said no comment and
• 14:01
  Speaker 6: has been smiley about everything. He might be thinking, Hey,
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: when that video comes out, it's gonna be just as
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  Speaker 6: bad as that Draymond video because it's just gonna look
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  Speaker 6: like a sucker punch.
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  Speaker 1: I love that Draymond's getting mad at you, Donna's haslam
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  Speaker 1: for allowing this to happen, as if you know, when
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: you have kids they go off and do bad things,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: is it your fault for the.
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  Speaker 2: Remainder of time? Don't Dramond would put the plane there.
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  Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of my macro question about all this,
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  Speaker 7: because you were explaining it and I'm like, what the
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: hell does Draymond Green have to do with any of this?
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  Speaker 7: And then it hit me like, are we destined to
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: have Draymond Green commenting on everything NBA for like the
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  Speaker 7: next thirty years? Like is he gonna be like Charles
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  Speaker 7: Barkley without the likability, like.
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  Speaker 6: Is he gonna be because he What he's complaining about
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  Speaker 6: is that Eudonnas Haslam was critical of him when he
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  Speaker 6: punched his own teammate Jordan Poole and a practice, and
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  Speaker 6: now these guys that he raised are now think about that,
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  Speaker 6: by the way, Tyler Hero and and Bam out of
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  Speaker 6: Bay are guys that Eudonnas raised, even though it was
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  Speaker 6: like what the last quarter of his career, that you
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  Speaker 6: raised are all of a sudden now at each other's
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  Speaker 6: throats and fighting publicly, and so somehow that's on you Donnis, right,
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  Speaker 6: And really all that's doing is justifying his ridiculous behavior
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  Speaker 6: when he punched Jordan Poole.
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  Speaker 5: You Donnas has nothing to do with this.
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  Speaker 6: You Donnas has been trying, from what I understand, to
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  Speaker 6: mend this relationship for a couple of years now, and
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  Speaker 6: he's not even on the team. And even after Tyler
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  Speaker 6: Hero was traded, I'd heard that Eudonnas was still trying
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  Speaker 6: to mend these guys' relationships. So for Draymond Green to
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  Speaker 6: come out here and and just throw you Donnas out
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  Speaker 6: there like that as if he was the reason for this,
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  Speaker 6: it's just out of left field and ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I love that, Draymond.
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  Speaker 1: It's so petty the NBA, and you know this is
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  Speaker 1: these guys are so petty, they're so sensitive that Draymond
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  Speaker 1: is held on to the in his system of Eu
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  Speaker 1: Donna's haslam and the for for punching Jordan Pull, a
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  Speaker 1: teammate in practice many many years ago, that he has
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: held on to it in a way where he's like, man,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for something to happen, even not even
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: if it's not directly with you Donni's haslam tangentially reason
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a way I can get back at Eu Donna's many
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: years later.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: That is ridiculous, It's absurd. Seriously, grow up, all of you,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: including Eudonnas.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: By the way, I did say that I love you
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Eu Donnas.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Is he I'm sorry to think heat culture is kind
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: of a front.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean heat.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Look, a lot of heat stuff has been like your
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: mythical stuff has been childish pat Riley saying fuck Boston
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: or telling not Place daying fuck Boston, but telling.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Danny Age to go mind his own bit, like that's
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: all childish behavior.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: But but in mythical stuff like and just like creating
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: a legend. I mean, we think of who is it?
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: Is it Charles Oakley, right, who's a badass because he
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: punched a bunch of people, Like it could be that
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: BAM's reputation changes here. It could be that BAM is
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: just like, all right, now, enough of that nice guy nonsense.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Like I'm not a young guy anymore.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to be you know, walk on eggshells
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: and worry about these guys. No, like, this is what
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: I'm about, and this is how we're going to win.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: Maybe this changes his personality a little bit and how
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: people won't mess with him.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: But I don't know.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: I just think it's it's it went over the top
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: considering who we're talking about in BAM, because this doesn't
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: seem like his mo.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, considering who he punched in Tyler.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, I don't like this, Like I need
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: to see the video because I don't like the sucker
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: punchesness of this all. Like, I don't I don't want
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: to see a video. And it looks like Tyler just
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: got caught off guard. And because that's not how BAM
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: wants to be looked.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: At, right, Yeah, no, certainly not. But he did it
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and so he's going to be viewed I don't know
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: if he's going to be viewed as a tough guy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I think people are actually going to be like, what
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: are you doing?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Man? Like you waited until he laughed.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You sucker punched him, and the guy's four or five
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: inches smaller than you are, Like Tyler Harrow, that's the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: guy You're going to take your aggression out on.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Where I'm at with Heat culture right now. It's like
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: a college coach that's disappointed with his team and says, hey, team,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: you're not allowed to wear our logo until you start
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: performing to our standards. If I'm the Miami Heat, I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: removing all things that say Heat Culture on it until
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I see that Miami deserves it back.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Isn't it great as a nick fan just to sit
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: back and watch all the other teams have problems? I mean,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: this is fantastic, Taylor. We are in such a sweet
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: spot right now. Geez, it's amazing. I know I'm steel
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: this way forever. Unfortunately, I know I'm not going to.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: It does suck to recognize that your team is in
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: the middle of stuff that only bad teams do, right,
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: It only happens to bad teams or if Draymond's on
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: your team, because this is like, really, it's one thing
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: if we were coming off a championship, right, but I
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: mean that's a coming off a year you didn't make
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: the playoffs. And yeah, we're supposed to be excited about
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Yannis and all this other stuff that's happening. But now
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: we got to talk about this and whether BAM should
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: be criticized or BAM should be celebrated.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, all right, let's just get this in basketball.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, do you think?
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: So?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: How do you think? Like what do you think the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: end of Like where does this story end for you?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Is he Is it going to.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Be BAM being viewed as tough guy leader now or
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: BAM being criticized for going after a guy for really
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: benign thoughts and comments, you know, and like me, here's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: what Tyler has to say.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: After Tyler's not here anymore.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: So I was kind of thinking of this in terms
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: of like, what, so, you know, when Lebron got here,
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: you set this US against the world mentality, right when
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Jimmy got here, it's like nobody believes in US mentality.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: This is hey, this is where we shut out the noise.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: All right, that's all nonsense. Let's just cut it all off,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: and we don't care what the rest of the world
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: is saying.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: This is who we are.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: We're not going to a po We're not going to
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: you know, explain anything. We're just gonna let the storytell
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: itself from here on out. And in all likelihood, what's
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: gonna happen. Milwaukee will be a bad team. What happens
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: on these bad teams, their star players usually end up
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: getting hurt.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Tyler Hero probably won't.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Play a lot, and the world will say, oh, okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: that's what that was in Miami, that's why they were frustrated.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: And Bam will likely play a lot, and the Heat
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: will likely get to fifty something wins, and everybody will say, oh, okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: that defensive minded team is a better option than having
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Tyler Hero as your top scoring option.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. And unfortunately, Tyler's.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: Probably gonna take the l on this, and you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: he might not be looked at the same way unless
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: he has multiple healthy seasons where he's like potentially being
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: an All Star and maybe even making a second All
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Star Game. So I just think that if once the
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: basketball starts happening, Bam will look like the winner of
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: this whatever you want to call it, this exchange, but
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: it sucks that it got to this.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Have we heard anything about where Lebron end up yet?
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Uh no, But I have been sort of oscillating between
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: is that the right word?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Uh, Clelanding is the right word.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I love the rich the whiteboard, the rich board, I said,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'm tired from La taha, the whiteboard that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Rich Paul threw up there Lebron.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But with where Lebron might go, he's going to Philadelphia,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I'm reporting it exclusively.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: No chance.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: I was basically oscillating between Cleveland and Miami. And it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: just like, look, if if the goal is to have
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: a great story for your final season, you go to Cleveland. Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: find a way to get James Harden out of there,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: and you go to Cleveland and you have a nice year,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: and if you don't win it all, who cares. Cleveland's
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: not going to put that on you. But if it's
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: more than that, if it's actually about some basketball, if
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: it's actually about things, like you know, he repaired the
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: relationship with Cleveland, he won them a championship, he still
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: might feel like he has quote unfinished business in Miami
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: and might want to go try to get another one there,
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: right because he felt like he should have gotten one
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: in twenty eleven.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Uh So, I don't know.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: I think it's fifty to fifty right there, Like I
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: think it's up say, I think it's fifty one to
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: forty nine toward Cleveland. But if he comes out this
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: week and explains why it's Miami, I think even Cleveland
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: people will be like, Okay, we get it now. They'll
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: She'll be upset, but they'll they'll understand it a little
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: bit more than the last time.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Why are you ruling out Philadelphia completely? I mean, it's just.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Not It just doesn't feel like a lebron move, like
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: for him to drop in with all those guys who
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: are already potential chemistry problems when you've got to you know, punch.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Tyler hero in the face. I mean for crying out loud.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Well again, people are sort of giving him or points
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: for that and saying nobody's nobody's moving like bam right now,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: eighty three points dating Asia Wilson, punch Tyler hero in
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: the phase, got Giannis as a teammate, Like, it's pretty
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: good to be Bam out of Bayer right now, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: if I'm Lebron James, I don't mind jumping on that bandwagon.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like there are some other people
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: who feel like Bam hasn't earned any of this, including
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: his eighty three points.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: I mean time defense off first and second team member.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Like that guy's respected across the league. They also wear
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Olympic teammates together, and I think I think BAM's standing
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: amongst other guys in the league is pretty strong.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Taylor, do you have Bam? Do you have Lebron going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to the Heat? Is that where I mean? Is it
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: coming down to the Heat and Calves? Cause you and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I discussed this at Tahoe. I do believe he's going
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Like I'm at the point where Lebron just deside already, Yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: just decide. Rich Paul coming out over the weekend saying
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: that Lebron's not chasing a ring. Obviously you're not chasing
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: a ring, because if you were chasing a ring, you
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: would be considering the Thunder or the Spurs or the Knicks.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say the Knicks.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You're gonna go to Philadelphia, And there's concerns about you
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: and Joel Embiid and and how that would work. If
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you go to Cleveland you have James Harden, if you
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: go to Miami, there's just a ton of questions already
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: with with the lack of depth they have. Is he
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: really is he really moving the needle on any of
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: these teams?
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Is he helped me out?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: From a legacy standpoint, what would be more impressive for
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Lebron's legacy finally getting Joe ellenb to the Eastern Conference
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: finals and beyond it and getting him a ring, or
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: getting James hard.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: In a ring?
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, James Harden.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Three rings.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: If Lebron wins won in Cleveland with James Harden, I'm
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: with you on that, Yeah, I mean, in philm that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: why you have to keep Harden around. You can't get
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: rid of Harden. You have to carry hard into an
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: NBA championship.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that would be the greatest accomplishment, right,
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Like you couldn't do it with Russell Westbrook, but if
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: you can do it with James Harden, that would be
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: the greatest.
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: Getting the Wizards a title or getting James Harden a title,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: which would be the which would be higher which would
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: be the better cap to his legacy man, which, by
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: the way, would put the Jordan debate to bed.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Either one would.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: If he were to win James Hard in its title
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You're telling me you would count that as
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: three championships. He would surpass Michael Jordan.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Michael, move over. I might be with you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: That's tough for James Harden to hear.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think he cares.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's laughing all the way to the bank,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: without listening, without hearing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, club.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: The Beast, that is, that's where he keeps his money.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: He goes to a strip clubder a Mattress