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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, it's a Monday. Hey everybody, welcome to the After
- 0:02Speaker 1: Show podcast. Justin here. I hope Halloween was great. I
- 0:06Speaker 1: hope you had a good time, whether you were with
- 0:08Speaker 1: your family or at a party, whatever you were doing.
- 0:10Speaker 1: But welcome back to the podcast. I'm here. I do
- 0:13Speaker 1: have a special guest I will introduced in just one second.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this one, and so on all
- 0:19Speaker 1: of you. I got a lot of dms this weekend
- 0:20Speaker 1: about this person coming on. We have a lot to
- 0:23Speaker 1: talk about. But I always say to leave a talk
- 0:26Speaker 1: back for the after show. You can do that on
- 0:27Speaker 1: the iHeart app. You can listen to this podcast on
- 0:30Speaker 1: many different platforms, but the iHeart app is the only
- 0:33Speaker 1: one you can send a talk back in. And how
- 0:35Speaker 1: you do that is you pull up the podcast on
- 0:37Speaker 1: the iHeart app and while you're listening, there's a little
- 0:39Speaker 1: microphone that you pressed. You can join in on the conversation.
- 0:42Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take love, but I'll take hate too.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Sometimes people send hateful stuff. That's okay. Just know that
- 0:47Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's ever going to read it.
- 0:49Speaker 1: So there's that. But thank you everybody.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Justin just wanted to say good job holding down that
- 0:54Speaker 2: after show podcast.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Been doing a great job, dude.
- 0:57Speaker 2: If you ever want to have the twenty twenty two
- 0:59Speaker 2: OG original recipient of the very first Talkbacker of the
- 1:02Speaker 2: Year award on your show, I'm always available. Feel free
- 1:06Speaker 2: to reach out and schedule at any time. But besides that,
- 1:09Speaker 2: I had been listening to you since the very first
- 1:12Speaker 2: days of BECKS when you guys first started.
- 1:14Speaker 1: You're doing a great job man holding it down, do
- 1:16Speaker 1: you think, brother? Thank you Brian. Yeah, he was the
- 1:18Speaker 1: first Talkbacker of the Year a few years ago when
- 1:21Speaker 1: we launched that, so thank you to him for checking in.
- 1:23Speaker 1: But my guest today is, well, he's a very humble
- 1:28Speaker 1: human being. Okay, even though he doesn't say that he's humble,
- 1:32Speaker 1: he is. And if it wasn't for this person, I
- 1:35Speaker 1: would not be sitting here and I would not have
- 1:37Speaker 1: a career in radio. Now. I've said that those words
- 1:40Speaker 1: to this person, and every time he says no, no, no,
- 1:42Speaker 1: no no. You're here because of you and the work
- 1:45Speaker 1: that you did, welcome Santi, Well, thank you, I do.
- 1:48Speaker 3: I honestly feel like you put in all the work
- 1:51Speaker 3: you needed to get clean, to put yourself in a
- 1:53Speaker 3: situation to have the internship to do a good interview
- 1:56Speaker 3: in all these things. So I can't take credit for
- 1:58Speaker 3: that if anything. Yes, but it's only because I saw
- 2:01Speaker 3: something within you. So when I say stuff like that,
- 2:03Speaker 3: it's because you put on, you put the work in.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go through it all. We're going to
- 2:07Speaker 1: go through it all. But first and foremost, you are
- 2:10Speaker 1: a co host on the Ashley and the jam In
- 2:12Speaker 1: morning show. Now you've worked in radio on jammin. Yeah,
- 2:17Speaker 1: over twenty years. There was a period you were laid off.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think when you add all together,
- 2:22Speaker 3: it's something like twenty one years.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we'll go. We're gonna go back to
- 2:25Speaker 1: where you started and all the pranks and all that stuff.
- 2:27Speaker 1: But as far as with me, the reason why I
- 2:31Speaker 1: give Santy the credit or some of the credit is yeah,
- 2:34Speaker 1: because he mentioned getting clean. I got clean. I went
- 2:37Speaker 1: back to school and you know, I was about to graduate,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and you know, the teacher said to me, you know,
- 2:41Speaker 1: you need to start looking at internships. And I was like,
- 2:45Speaker 1: I don't know, because I had this record right at
- 2:47Speaker 1: criminal record, and so she kept pushing me, and I
- 2:50Speaker 1: was like, well, maybe the news or something, and she goes,
- 2:52Speaker 1: what do you really want to do? And I said, well,
- 2:54Speaker 1: my dream, I mean, my dream is radio. You know,
- 2:56Speaker 1: I grew up listening to jam in ninety four to
- 2:58Speaker 1: five to kiss, want to wait? I remember being locked
- 3:01Speaker 1: up listening to the radio, and she goes, well, why
- 3:04Speaker 1: don't you just send an email? And I was honest
- 3:06Speaker 1: with her and I told her, and she was like, look,
- 3:08Speaker 1: you know, you got to shoot your shot. Basically, you'll
- 3:11Speaker 1: never know if you don't try. So I looked up
- 3:13Speaker 1: on Jammin and your name came up. Okay, and so
- 3:16Speaker 1: that I sent my resume and you emailed back and
- 3:19Speaker 1: you set up an interview. Okay. Now, you were known
- 3:24Speaker 1: on Jammin the first time as Crazy Culo, which I knew,
- 3:28Speaker 1: but I never knew your name was Santy because Romero
- 3:30Speaker 1: never called you Santy. He called you crazy Cool on
- 3:33Speaker 1: their on the air. On the air. Yeah, yeah. So
- 3:36Speaker 1: when I got the interview, I remember I was telling
- 3:39Speaker 1: people and I was telling one of my friends. I'm like,
- 3:40Speaker 1: I got an interview with this guy Santy Santiago and
- 3:44Speaker 1: he's like, that's Crazy Culo and I was like, no way,
- 3:48Speaker 1: what And so then I ended up coming in did
- 3:51Speaker 1: the interview, so nervous. I mean how much did I weigh?
- 3:54Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I just started my fitness journe so
- 4:00Speaker 1: that was that was in May of twenty eleven. I
- 4:04Speaker 1: joined the gym like in April of two thousand and eleven.
- 4:07Speaker 1: So I just started working out and I did the
- 4:09Speaker 1: interview and I left, and I thought to myself, there's
- 4:12Speaker 1: no way, and you emailed me back and hired me.
- 4:16Speaker 3: It's I don't remember scheduling everything. I don't remember that
- 4:19Speaker 3: part of it. I do remember you coming in for
- 4:21Speaker 3: the interview, and I think like there was something in
- 4:23Speaker 3: your eyes that I noticed that, like you were just focused.
- 4:26Speaker 3: You wanted to I didn't know you wanted to make
- 4:28Speaker 3: a change, but you seem like you wanted to do
- 4:30Speaker 3: something good. And I felt that, and I felt that
- 4:32Speaker 3: for the minute you walked in. And you also seem
- 4:34Speaker 3: like you were just into the entire thing. Because like
- 4:37Speaker 3: you have to imagine how many At the time the
- 4:38Speaker 3: internship program hey was really big. So I would do
- 4:41Speaker 3: like probably interview twenty people a semester at the very least,
- 4:46Speaker 3: and half the people wanted to work there just because
- 4:48Speaker 3: they thought it was cool, right, And I could pick
- 4:50Speaker 3: that up like instantly, and that was the last person
- 4:52Speaker 3: we wanted to hire because at the end of the day,
- 4:54Speaker 3: there is work that surrounded that and I got that
- 4:57Speaker 3: center of me that you were there for the work
- 4:58Speaker 3: instead of like the fame part.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think that's one benefit that
- 5:03Speaker 1: I that being having a past and like going through
- 5:06Speaker 1: addiction and all that stuff has helped me tremendously because
- 5:09Speaker 1: I've seen the other side. Yeah, you know what I mean,
- 5:12Speaker 1: Like when you've come from the bottom and you get
- 5:14Speaker 1: an opportunity like that, like you can't fuck it up.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Yes, but I've seen so many people come through here
- 5:19Speaker 3: and exactly it just fuck it up. Yeah, so many people.
- 5:22Speaker 3: They're like even people I see on Facebook today, there's
- 5:25Speaker 3: a handful. There's one in specific that had an opportunity
- 5:28Speaker 3: to be on the air at ninety four to five,
- 5:31Speaker 3: had an opportunity to like send in his tape and
- 5:33Speaker 3: like I kept telling him, look, put in your air track,
- 5:35Speaker 3: put in all these things. And he always had a
- 5:38Speaker 3: thing about him like he didn't want to do the
- 5:40Speaker 3: like the work part about Yeah, this person DJ still
- 5:43Speaker 3: so it's like I don't understand, Like, so you'd rather
- 5:45Speaker 3: be doing that than then have this opportunity that you
- 5:48Speaker 3: just completely fumbled.
- 5:49Speaker 1: It is a fumbling, yeah, essentially what it is.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Here's a good example. This was after one of the concerts,
- 5:54Speaker 3: like back in the day when we used to do
- 5:55Speaker 3: like Monster Jam, and after the show's two things I
- 5:59Speaker 3: either would happen. Either you would go to a party
- 6:01Speaker 3: and have fun, or you do all the post concert work,
- 6:05Speaker 3: like packing up like everything. When you're on the Street Team,
- 6:08Speaker 3: your responsibility is to pack everything up, load all the vans,
- 6:11Speaker 3: bring all the stuff back here to the radio station.
- 6:13Speaker 3: A bunch of them on the Street Team, including me,
- 6:16Speaker 3: got invited to a party. I couldn't go to the
- 6:18Speaker 3: party because my mind is like listen, I have to
- 6:20Speaker 3: pack up all the T shirts that didn't get sold
- 6:22Speaker 3: and bring them back to the radio station. Ninety nine
- 6:25Speaker 3: percent of the people on the Street Team at the
- 6:26Speaker 3: time went to the party peace like by I was
- 6:30Speaker 3: left to buy myself ye to pack up the van.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I was so mad, But I really, honestly in the moment,
- 6:36Speaker 3: felt like, Okay, I'm doing the right thing, So I
- 6:38Speaker 3: was happy with that. Now you fast forward, they're all gone.
- 6:40Speaker 3: They don't work here because their priorities here were on
- 6:44Speaker 3: that part of the business, not the responsibility part.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Yep yep, yeah, because it's like you know, yes, you
- 6:50Speaker 1: will meet famous people, yeah, artists, Yeah, but there is
- 6:53Speaker 1: a lot of work that goes into it. And that's
- 6:55Speaker 1: something that I took from you. You were my mentor.
- 6:57Speaker 1: So I got hired as an intern and I watched
- 6:59Speaker 1: how you and you taught me so many gems, like
- 7:02Speaker 1: so many, Like one in particular is when you're a producer,
- 7:06Speaker 1: you pick and choose what the hosts know and don't know. Yeah, right,
- 7:11Speaker 1: And it's a little bit different now because now you're
- 7:13Speaker 1: a co host. I mean you were on the air
- 7:14Speaker 1: back then, but it was like Romero and Pebbles and Melissa,
- 7:17Speaker 1: and you know, you have to remember that they're doing
- 7:19Speaker 1: a show. So if you say something negative to them
- 7:22Speaker 1: or something that they're not gonna like, that could affect
- 7:24Speaker 1: the show absolutely. So I still do that to this day,
- 7:27Speaker 1: Like I keep like Billy and Lisa, maybe I wait
- 7:29Speaker 1: till after the show, but I don't tell them during
- 7:31Speaker 1: the show.
- 7:31Speaker 3: That's exactly you have to gay keep the information because
- 7:34Speaker 3: if you tell somebody at six am about something, depending
- 7:36Speaker 3: on who the person is, it will ruin their entire day,
- 7:38Speaker 3: and it'll ruin the entire show. So there is also
- 7:41Speaker 3: a way to clean up the information. If the information
- 7:43Speaker 3: gets passed you in a very direct way, there's a
- 7:46Speaker 3: way to like echo the information on the other end
- 7:48Speaker 3: of things, but also couple it with some positivity, like listen,
- 7:51Speaker 3: this may not be the news you want to hear,
- 7:53Speaker 3: but after this, here's what we're going to do to
- 7:55Speaker 3: solve the problem. So yeah, there's a lot of that.
- 7:58Speaker 3: There's a lot of people in this business who don't understand.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what takes a good producer is essentially,
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know. And I just remember, like I don't have
- 8:06Speaker 1: ever told you this. My first day here, I went
- 8:10Speaker 1: in and I sat in the studio and I was
- 8:11Speaker 1: with a little AJ. She was also an intern, had
- 8:14Speaker 1: been there a few months before me. And I went
- 8:16Speaker 1: in and I sat down and we were doing the
- 8:18Speaker 1: pre show stuff, and then the music started for the show.
- 8:21Speaker 1: And as it was playing, we're sitting there, and I
- 8:23Speaker 1: got this overwhelming sense of like gratitude, and I started
- 8:26Speaker 1: to like, well up, you know, and so now I'm
- 8:29Speaker 1: like yawning, trying to hide it. I remember, like little
- 8:32Speaker 1: AJ looked at me and goes say you okay, and
- 8:34Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm fine because it was emotional being
- 8:36Speaker 1: here in that moment. And those early days, man, were
- 8:40Speaker 1: like because I was an intern and I just wanted
- 8:42Speaker 1: to be here, and I was only here two days
- 8:44Speaker 1: a week, so I would come here and I would
- 8:46Speaker 1: want to stay all day long and just learn and yeah,
- 8:49Speaker 1: do cool stuff like meet famous people. But after a while,
- 8:53Speaker 1: it's like, I'll tell this one story. So when you
- 8:56Speaker 1: first start, you know, anybody that you meet, you're like,
- 8:58Speaker 1: let me post this picture, you know, and I remember
- 9:00Speaker 1: said to you used to get on because he's a
- 9:02Speaker 1: motherfucking ballbuster. Okay, so you know where this is going.
- 9:05Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. It is about.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Oh yo, you'll remember this one. So one day, two
- 9:11Speaker 1: Patriots cheerleaders came in. Okay, okay, And so they came
- 9:14Speaker 1: in for like an interview or for something. And I
- 9:17Speaker 1: walked them in and then I walked them out, and
- 9:19Speaker 1: when I walked them out, I asked them for a picture.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And so I got a picture standing in between them
- 9:24Speaker 1: when I'm around them, and I posted it right to Facebook.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I walked in, you were like, you are a loser.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Really is this how low we're going Patriots cheerleaders And
- 9:36Speaker 1: it's so funny because it shows up on my Facebook.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Memories, And I guess here's my thought process behind it
- 9:42Speaker 3: is like two things. Out of all the people I'm
- 9:44Speaker 3: gonna walk through the doors, it's them that you want
- 9:46Speaker 3: to post it. Then also, this goes to everybody. I
- 9:49Speaker 3: got into the point where all these people that I've
- 9:51Speaker 3: seen so many insecurities on everybody because we all have these, right,
- 9:55Speaker 3: But with the with just the celebrities, it's like they're
- 9:57Speaker 3: just average people just because they do what for their
- 10:00Speaker 3: jobs and all this stuff. I understand it, but I've
- 10:02Speaker 3: been through it so many years that I've now seeing
- 10:04Speaker 3: them as an average person who's broken like all of us.
- 10:08Speaker 3: And that's why I'm like, I'm not posting this person
- 10:10Speaker 3: or like they're a weirdo. But with the cheerleaders, I
- 10:12Speaker 3: was like, man, this dude was so happy, he's so excited.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh my god, what am I doing?
- 10:19Speaker 1: And I said, that's another thing that I noticed with
- 10:21Speaker 1: you is because you had been there in the business
- 10:22Speaker 1: for so long, you wouldn't you wouldn't get excited about
- 10:25Speaker 1: any like celebrity. No, you think it was cool. But
- 10:28Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, yeah, you come in, you do
- 10:31Speaker 1: your job, get them in, interview them.
- 10:33Speaker 3: It was always the most random ones that I wou
- 10:35Speaker 3: get excited for, mainly because they probably did some random
- 10:39Speaker 3: movie that I love back back in the eighties or
- 10:41Speaker 3: something like that.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm into the nineties hip hop, so I
- 10:44Speaker 1: get excited for that. But you got to tell the
- 10:46Speaker 1: Joe Rogan story. Joe Rogan, Yeah, when he was he's
- 10:48Speaker 1: a comedian.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Yes, and at the time he was doing his comedy
- 10:51Speaker 3: tours here in Boston, and usually at that time, whenever
- 10:54Speaker 3: you did a tour, you would come in promote on
- 10:56Speaker 3: the radio, so people would buy tickets. Joe Rogan comes
- 10:58Speaker 3: in I think at the time also to people had
- 11:00Speaker 3: known him for the UFC and for Fear Factor, so
- 11:02Speaker 3: he was well known. But I didn't know he was
- 11:04Speaker 3: into MMA at the time. So Rameiro's like talking about
- 11:09Speaker 3: MMA and Joe Rogan had a friend that choked somebody
- 11:12Speaker 3: out in a hotel room. But the guy there was
- 11:14Speaker 3: some story like behind that. In the moment, like Rameiro's like, well,
- 11:18Speaker 3: why don't you choke him out? And again I didn't
- 11:20Speaker 3: really understand how these things worked, So he goes, fine,
- 11:23Speaker 3: so this is live on the air, puts me in
- 11:25Speaker 3: a choke hold, squeezes in like two seconds. I went
- 11:28Speaker 3: to go tap and I passed out. He hit the floor. Yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 3: he choked me out live on the air. Now if
- 11:33Speaker 3: you look on the internet somewhere out there. But yes,
- 11:36Speaker 3: that was one of my first experiences with Joe Rogan.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Now fast forward a couple of years like after that,
- 11:41Speaker 3: I'm at a random UFC event and I'm sitting in
- 11:44Speaker 3: like the press area. All of a sudden, somebody comes
- 11:47Speaker 3: up behind me and puts me in like a choke hold.
- 11:50Speaker 3: I'm like, what is happening? It was turned around and
- 11:52Speaker 3: it's him because he remembered that whole thing.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Yeah wait is this pre podcast, pre podcast? Yeah, so
- 11:59Speaker 1: the time he came back up to you was pre
- 12:00Speaker 1: still pre podcast, pre podcast, before he became Joe Rogan.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Y yes, yes, oh my god.
- 12:05Speaker 3: But still to this day one of the most like
- 12:07Speaker 3: down to earth people I've ever met, who was just
- 12:09Speaker 3: like a real dude.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I love about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 1: I like Joe. I listened to his podcasts. I like
- 12:14Speaker 1: his guests. I'm how they just talk yes, it's not
- 12:17Speaker 1: an interview style. Yeah, you know, although sometimes it's annoying.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Like Mike Tyson was on the.
- 12:21Speaker 3: First I would have liked that, yeah, because I don't
- 12:23Speaker 3: want to hear some of the stories.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I know, but they just talked about ayahuasca. Yeah yeah, Okay.
- 12:28Speaker 1: So so you started JAM in early two thousands as
- 12:32Speaker 1: an intern.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yeah. My first day of my internship was June fifth
- 12:36Speaker 3: of two thousand.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Wow.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Okay, so intern and then you get hired.
- 12:41Speaker 3: I interned for like at least a couple of years
- 12:43Speaker 3: because that was my sophomore year in college. So I
- 12:44Speaker 3: interned for like three or four years before I actually
- 12:46Speaker 3: got hired. And then when I got hired, I got
- 12:48Speaker 3: hired like part time and I was making like, yeah,
- 12:51Speaker 3: i'll say it was two hudred bucks a week. Wow,
- 12:53Speaker 3: it was like nothing. And I think at the time
- 12:55Speaker 3: I was engaged, I was starting my life. I remember
- 12:57Speaker 3: so many people telling me like how can you live
- 13:00Speaker 3: like that? Like that's a bad move. You need to
- 13:02Speaker 3: go find a job and stuff. And then and I
- 13:03Speaker 3: did apply for a couple of jobs, went on some interviews,
- 13:06Speaker 3: but I realized fast that like I didn't want to
- 13:09Speaker 3: be like in an in your average like nine to five.
- 13:13Speaker 3: It wasn't for me, like I really wanted to entertain.
- 13:15Speaker 3: I didn't know what that meant, but I knew that
- 13:17Speaker 3: that feeling was kind of in the back of my mind.
- 13:19Speaker 3: So then I like stopped applying for jobs and kind
- 13:22Speaker 3: of start at the bottom again in internships. I started
- 13:24Speaker 3: interning that joins the street team, that Kiss went await
- 13:27Speaker 3: fresh out of college and we kind of do it
- 13:29Speaker 3: Kiss Yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Wow, yeah. See he went through what a lot of
- 13:33Speaker 1: us went through, not making any money in the beginning.
- 13:35Speaker 1: And that was a big thing for me because when
- 13:37Speaker 1: I was an intern and I got like part time,
- 13:39Speaker 1: I was making no money, and you told me you
- 13:41Speaker 1: had gone through it too. But then you also get
- 13:44Speaker 1: another thing. You told me, you go, look, you can
- 13:47Speaker 1: you know, you can leave, you can get another job.
- 13:49Speaker 1: That's fine, make more money. You need to make money.
- 13:51Speaker 1: I understand that. He's like, but just so you know,
- 13:54Speaker 1: anybody who leaves never comes back because there's always another
- 13:58Speaker 1: intern or something he goes. It's gonna be hard, but
- 14:00Speaker 1: you need to make the decision on what you want
- 14:02Speaker 1: to do. And I always remember that and I never left.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I tough threw it. You eventually, I you know, was
- 14:07Speaker 1: able to make more money.
- 14:08Speaker 3: I had opportunities to leave over the last twenty years,
- 14:11Speaker 3: like a lot of them. I never felt like either one,
- 14:15Speaker 3: Like there were a few that I really considered. I
- 14:18Speaker 3: don't regret not taking like any of those, because I
- 14:21Speaker 3: needed to go through every aspect of this business to
- 14:23Speaker 3: get to the point where I'm at, like right now.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get hired as a producer, and then
- 14:28Speaker 1: at what point do you become this crazy kul o
- 14:31Speaker 1: prankster character.
- 14:33Speaker 3: I was on the air before, kind of because they
- 14:34Speaker 3: always put me on the air for random stuff to
- 14:36Speaker 3: make fun of me because I was the intern and
- 14:37Speaker 3: all that stuff, and I think like they saw something
- 14:39Speaker 3: in my personality and they were at the time the
- 14:43Speaker 3: radio shows were developing in a way where you had
- 14:45Speaker 3: to have a stunt gun on like a morning show.
- 14:47Speaker 3: It just kind of worked. Maddy had Randy Yes, So
- 14:50Speaker 3: they were like, could you be the dun guy. I'm like, listen,
- 14:52Speaker 3: it's really not in my nature to do stuff like that,
- 14:55Speaker 3: but I'll do it just for the opportunity. So they
- 14:59Speaker 3: came up with a character there, my character name and
- 15:01Speaker 3: all the stuff. I hated the name. I'm like, this
- 15:03Speaker 3: isn't who I am. And then they play like, so
- 15:05Speaker 3: we're gonna have you call in and just act crazy.
- 15:07Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not me, it's not who I am.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, let's go. Let's go to Mike here.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Hold on, Mike from the Hampshire justin. Great job with
- 15:16Speaker 4: the podcast every day. It's you're doing better and better
- 15:21Speaker 4: with it. I love the hope that. I love the
- 15:25Speaker 4: special guests. My question for Santi is for Monday's podcast, Santi,
- 15:31Speaker 4: what is the greatest prank you ever played since you've
- 15:34Speaker 4: been at JAMN. Maybe I'm justin or someone else.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot, well.
- 15:41Speaker 1: So on, so you become crazy cool though you're the
- 15:43Speaker 1: stunt guy right now. Is this one stunt a.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Week that you were doing on Fridays? Yeah?
- 15:48Speaker 1: Oh, so you plan it out throughout the week and
- 15:50Speaker 1: execute on Friday.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Yeah. And I was the one coming up with all
- 15:53Speaker 3: the stunts.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Oh it was you.
- 15:54Speaker 3: I was writing all the stunts. I came up with
- 15:56Speaker 3: ninety percent of the ideas.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's go through some of the craziest.
- 16:00Speaker 3: I would say the craziest one, the craziest one I've
- 16:04Speaker 3: ever done was when little Joey, who was a gorilla
- 16:07Speaker 3: at the Franklin Park Zoo escaped. I remember that say
- 16:11Speaker 3: it happened on the Wednesday. It was all over the
- 16:12Speaker 3: papers on the news on Thursday. I went down there
- 16:15Speaker 3: with a gorilla costume and I was acting like I
- 16:18Speaker 3: was a gorilla that got backed out when I tell you,
- 16:23Speaker 3: and I don't exaggerate things. There was massivesteria around the zoo.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Car screech and people yelling. We were peered from people
- 16:30Speaker 3: on the phone because Pop Dog was there too, like
- 16:32Speaker 3: taking first hand accounts from people. People were yelling. Then
- 16:34Speaker 3: we got a phone call from somebody who worked here
- 16:37Speaker 3: at the radio station who's related to like a Boston cop.
- 16:41Speaker 3: He's like, hey, if this is you, guys, you guys
- 16:42Speaker 3: better lead because they are going down there with intent
- 16:45Speaker 3: to shoot the gorilla because but also after the day
- 16:47Speaker 3: before the gorilla attacked some little kid. Oh wow, so
- 16:50Speaker 3: there was that happening. So I think that was the
- 16:52Speaker 3: craziest one. I remember we jumped into some random car
- 16:56Speaker 3: that was there that was just pulled pulled up and
- 16:58Speaker 3: just got us out of the whole thing. Wow. That
- 17:00Speaker 3: was a crazy one. But another one was April Fool's Day.
- 17:03Speaker 3: I think about what year, and we got the idea
- 17:06Speaker 3: of buying a thousand balloons, and then we went down
- 17:09Speaker 3: to the Square one mall and we like made a
- 17:11Speaker 3: fake body and then we lifted the balloons up into
- 17:14Speaker 3: the up, up into the sky. But I pretended like
- 17:17Speaker 3: I was on the phone, so I'm like, oh my god,
- 17:19Speaker 3: I can see the highway. This is crazy, And people
- 17:23Speaker 3: started calling me like I can see him. This one
- 17:25Speaker 3: lady almost passed out because of the pure like mental
- 17:28Speaker 3: connection that there was a person up in the sky
- 17:31Speaker 3: on a phone arrested I did. The police came up
- 17:36Speaker 3: and they were like, what are you doing. I'm like,
- 17:37Speaker 3: this is just the stunt. He goes, all right, pull
- 17:39Speaker 3: the balloons down and please go home because like, well
- 17:41Speaker 3: they can arrest me for flying a balloon, right, So yeah,
- 17:45Speaker 3: those are the two iconic ones.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of the ones I remember are eating the
- 17:49Speaker 1: bugs we talked about factor, didn't you choke on one?
- 17:52Speaker 3: They were these giant cock of roaches I think I
- 17:55Speaker 3: think they were, and I tried to swallow but it
- 17:57Speaker 3: was so big that the tentacles latched onto my throat.
- 18:00Speaker 3: The show and I kind of passed out and when
- 18:02Speaker 3: I hit the ground, the thing came out of my mouth.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Yeah, so you came up with that, Yes, came up
- 18:08Speaker 3: with that one.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Okay. Was there anything like I remember that? I remember
- 18:11Speaker 1: like driving I remember listening to this driving a big
- 18:14Speaker 1: wheel through the Burger King drive through. I forget what
- 18:17Speaker 1: the rest of the bit was.
- 18:18Speaker 3: I had to I had to basically ride a big
- 18:22Speaker 3: wheel from like I think it was like, so I
- 18:24Speaker 3: guess back here to the radio station and I stopped
- 18:26Speaker 3: him for some drive through. It was a long day
- 18:30Speaker 3: of me just riding that thing. It was awful, a
- 18:31Speaker 3: little big wheel. Yeah, so that was that one.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Other ones I remember, oh, hijacking the intercom I think
- 18:39Speaker 1: at Walmart a monster Jam or Summer Jam lineup.
- 18:43Speaker 3: Yes, I did that. And also if you look at
- 18:45Speaker 3: the phone at the time, they had an intercom button,
- 18:46Speaker 3: so I would just take over the intercom and start
- 18:49Speaker 3: saying random things. If you look somewhere in the Internet,
- 18:52Speaker 3: that video is out there to that one. They got
- 18:54Speaker 3: pissed pissed about. But I think those ones were the
- 18:58Speaker 3: biggest ones. And there were other ones, like that time
- 19:00Speaker 3: I drank a gallon of milk in less than an
- 19:01Speaker 3: hour and I was throwing off stuff like that, but
- 19:04Speaker 3: I thought those ones were more funny than anything. And
- 19:07Speaker 3: then there was another time where Pebd Square had flooded
- 19:09Speaker 3: because of like all the rain, but the flooding was
- 19:11Speaker 3: really bad. So the news was down there, Good Morning America,
- 19:15Speaker 3: National News, Lionel.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah, in in the.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Back, I'm doing it on an interview. I had to
- 19:25Speaker 3: go to the hospital and get a bunch of shots
- 19:26Speaker 3: because of it, like there was.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Bacteria. Yeah, oh my god, that's so funny. So by
- 19:34Speaker 1: the time that I came on, you had already been pasted.
- 19:37Speaker 1: The stunt thing kind of was yeah.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Because like what do you do? You couldn't keep doing
- 19:41Speaker 3: it the same way, and I think it had run
- 19:43Speaker 3: its course. I just wish that at the time I
- 19:45Speaker 3: was doing them that video was as prevalent as it
- 19:47Speaker 3: is today because it would have been a different story.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Yeah. So my my second week or yeah, second second
- 19:54Speaker 1: week on the show. So actually it was June of
- 19:57Speaker 1: twenty eleven, so a couple of weeks after I joined
- 19:59Speaker 1: the show. You know, I was fat, very fat, and
- 20:02Speaker 1: the Bruins had won the Stanley Cup and so one
- 20:04Speaker 1: day you came in you were like, look, we want
- 20:07Speaker 1: to send you down there, you know, and you kind
- 20:09Speaker 1: of like talk me through it. You lo like, look,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I've done it a million times. You can say, no,
- 20:12Speaker 1: it's fine. So I go down there. Now. My question,
- 20:15Speaker 1: I wandered, my question to you would be like, after
- 20:17Speaker 1: I tell the story, did you know it was going
- 20:19Speaker 1: to go where it went? But hold that thought. So
- 20:22Speaker 1: they sent me down there. Fox twenty five was on
- 20:24Speaker 1: TV Outside the Guard and Jean Lavanci Live and you
- 20:27Speaker 1: and Romero go go down there and get on TV
- 20:30Speaker 1: and call it. We want to see you on the
- 20:32Speaker 1: TV in our studio. So I get down there. I
- 20:34Speaker 1: get on TV behind Gene. I'm waving. I call in.
- 20:36Speaker 1: I'm on the phone though you see me, and you
- 20:38Speaker 1: were Maro like, yeah, we see you, we see you. Okay,
- 20:40Speaker 1: now go down a CBS and get a sign, a
- 20:43Speaker 1: post aboard and write Romero and Pebbles on the sign
- 20:47Speaker 1: and get back. I'm like, okay, So I go and
- 20:49Speaker 1: I get it. I come back. I get on TV
- 20:51Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, I'm feeling so good. I'm
- 20:52Speaker 1: like I'm here with the sign, and then they go,
- 20:54Speaker 1: I go, can I come back now? And you guys
- 20:56Speaker 1: go no, there's one more thing. You need to take
- 20:59Speaker 1: your shirt off and find someone with that marker to
- 21:02Speaker 1: write I love the bruins on your fat stomach. And
- 21:07Speaker 1: I remember my heart dropped, dude, and I was like,
- 21:09Speaker 1: this is my moment. I got to do it, and
- 21:11Speaker 1: I did. You can see the video the pictures on
- 21:13Speaker 1: my Instagram at justin Beasy and see it. But did
- 21:16Speaker 1: you know it was going to go that way? All
- 21:18Speaker 1: that way?
- 21:19Speaker 4: What?
- 21:19Speaker 3: Like you on the news? I listen. I knew there
- 21:23Speaker 3: was a chance you would get on the news, but
- 21:24Speaker 3: you were you were so eager just to do it,
- 21:26Speaker 3: like a good job that I knew was going to
- 21:28Speaker 3: be really good. Yes, yeah, we would not have sent
- 21:30Speaker 3: any like anybody else down there who didn't understand how
- 21:33Speaker 3: this whole thing worked.
- 21:33Speaker 1: No, I know, I know. And I did a couple
- 21:35Speaker 1: of other things, like I did the Saint Patrick's Day
- 21:38Speaker 1: Taste challenge. Do you remember that?
- 21:39Speaker 3: I don't.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Oh, you don't. So it was for J Cole tickets,
- 21:42Speaker 1: which I never got. That was the fucking yeah, but
- 21:45Speaker 1: I didn't get them. Anyway, It's a different part of
- 21:46Speaker 1: the story. It was Saint Patrick's Day. So what you
- 21:49Speaker 1: did was you got all types of like nasty food
- 21:53Speaker 1: and colored it green and then put it in a
- 21:56Speaker 1: blender and then I had to take a drink it
- 21:59Speaker 1: not knowing what it was and try to guess what
- 22:00Speaker 1: the stuff was, and it was like green spam. I
- 22:04Speaker 1: think it was like poop, like animal poop. I swear
- 22:10Speaker 1: to God, Yeah, but I did. I definitely did some stuff.
- 22:13Speaker 1: And then there was the one with Ashley that we
- 22:15Speaker 1: pranked her. Remember that, Yeah, Now that was a good one.
- 22:18Speaker 1: That took a lot of planning. We actually planned at
- 22:22Speaker 1: your house for Easter. It was April Fool's Day, and
- 22:25Speaker 1: you know, there was a it was a running joke.
- 22:28Speaker 1: It was not serious, but kind of that you were
- 22:31Speaker 1: having such a bad influence influence on me. Not bad
- 22:35Speaker 1: but influence, which really because you were like my mentor.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I looked up to you. But that like my wife
- 22:40Speaker 1: was like, you need to chill out with the santy
- 22:42Speaker 1: stuff because you're spending too much time with him. So
- 22:44Speaker 1: we came up with this idea that we were going
- 22:46Speaker 1: to get into a fight on April Fool's Day in
- 22:48Speaker 1: front of Ashley and fool her, and so we planned
- 22:51Speaker 1: it out and we ended up doing it. I actually
- 22:53Speaker 1: have the audio hair somewhere. I have to try to
- 22:55Speaker 1: find it. But we ended up. Yeah, we planned it
- 22:59Speaker 1: out where I was in my studio and then you
- 23:01Speaker 1: came in with Ashley for something and you started like
- 23:04Speaker 1: poking me, like come on, dude, tell your wife to
- 23:06Speaker 1: lighten up. And then there was a queue when you
- 23:08Speaker 1: tapped me on my left shoulder. I was going to
- 23:10Speaker 1: stand up and tackle you, and we did. And then
- 23:13Speaker 1: as she's like, we went on the air. Yeah, it was.
- 23:16Speaker 1: It was really good. I have the audio somewhere, but
- 23:18Speaker 1: I lost it. The other part of that was what
- 23:20Speaker 1: the prank is.
- 23:20Speaker 3: I think the best Frank I've ever done off the
- 23:23Speaker 3: air was putting the fire alarms in your bag and
- 23:26Speaker 3: here in the studio.
- 23:27Speaker 1: That's recent, Yes, that's that's Yeah. That was unbelievable, Santi
- 23:33Speaker 1: if you missed this, but I don't even know where
- 23:36Speaker 1: you find these on TikTok shop, These things that sound
- 23:39Speaker 1: like a fire alarm is out of batteries.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Yeah, they go off every ten minutes.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like beep, a chirp, it's a chirp. Yeah.
- 23:45Speaker 1: And he put them in my lunch box. So I
- 23:49Speaker 1: went home and for days all I heard was the
- 23:52Speaker 1: sound my whole family. All they heard was the chirping.
- 23:54Speaker 1: So I literally was searching my house every fire alarm.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I changed all the batteries. Every fire alarm sat down
- 24:02Speaker 1: ten minutes later. Now I was so pissed. It turns
- 24:06Speaker 1: out it was him. He put them in my in
- 24:08Speaker 1: my bag. So you're still doing pranks all this time later?
- 24:11Speaker 3: I am, yeah, so, and you have to imagine I
- 24:13Speaker 3: do them at home. Oh this doesn't end like here
- 24:16Speaker 3: when I'm like, this is this is my entire life.
- 24:18Speaker 3: I just think it's fun to have fun like this
- 24:21Speaker 3: and to you know, just enjoy life.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Okay. So so then you obviously Romero leaves, Pebbles and
- 24:28Speaker 1: Melissa leave, it becomes you know, well there was Romero,
- 24:32Speaker 1: you and Ashley came on, and then Boom laid off.
- 24:37Speaker 3: July second, twenty fifteen.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've talked a lot on this podcast about
- 24:41Speaker 1: the whole things that happened with DJ Farren on Jam
- 24:43Speaker 1: and Winnie and all that stuff and the fallout. But
- 24:47Speaker 1: I have been through so much and you've been through
- 24:49Speaker 1: even more. Yeah, So from my perspective, my first time
- 24:53Speaker 1: it ever happened was Melissa and Pebbles out of nowhere
- 24:57Speaker 1: in my studio one day, just like it happened with
- 24:59Speaker 1: Winni and DJ farre and show ends. I knew something
- 25:01Speaker 1: was going on, and then you come in. I'm like,
- 25:03Speaker 1: what's going on? You're like look, and you just like
- 25:05Speaker 1: told me, wait what, Like they don't work here anymore.
- 25:08Speaker 1: We're talking about You're like, yeah, you just chill out.
- 25:11Speaker 1: We'll explain more later. And then it happened to you.
- 25:14Speaker 3: I would say. My first one like that was Balto's
- 25:16Speaker 3: our way back in the day. Was you would hear
- 25:18Speaker 3: for that? I was. I was here for that, not
- 25:20Speaker 3: only here for it, but it happened. Then they put
- 25:22Speaker 3: him in a production room with just me and him,
- 25:24Speaker 3: and he's like, bro, do you hear what happened? I'm like, yeah,
- 25:26Speaker 3: it goes. What do you think. I'm like, what I think?
- 25:29Speaker 3: I'm an intern here for like a year. I don't know.
- 25:31Speaker 3: I'm sorry they put you.
- 25:33Speaker 1: In a room.
- 25:35Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, this is the weirdest thing. So
- 25:37Speaker 3: that was a big one. And then over the years
- 25:40Speaker 3: there's been so many people. You see them come and
- 25:42Speaker 3: go there, you almost become kind of immune to the
- 25:44Speaker 3: whole thing. But then when it happens to you, it's
- 25:47Speaker 3: a whole different story. It's a whole different emotions. I
- 25:49Speaker 3: was there for that too. Yes, I did not see
- 25:52Speaker 3: that coming. And even that day, I can still remember
- 25:56Speaker 3: the ride home. I drove all the way home in silence.
- 26:00Speaker 3: I had tickets to go see a movie that afternoon too.
- 26:03Speaker 3: I didn't go. Got home and it was still super numb,
- 26:05Speaker 3: and then the phone calls. Then people started, you know
- 26:09Speaker 3: phone calls, right, got a phone call from one person saying, hey,
- 26:12Speaker 3: this is kind of what happens when the leader of
- 26:14Speaker 3: the band doesn't want to be in the band anymore.
- 26:15Speaker 1: I'm like, wow.
- 26:16Speaker 3: I still didn't understand what was happening. I had to
- 26:18Speaker 3: call my boss and be like, hey, do I come
- 26:20Speaker 3: back to work because the way it was worried it
- 26:22Speaker 3: was kind of different. So I was confused on that
- 26:24Speaker 3: end of things. And then you walk in the house
- 26:26Speaker 3: and then you kind of just earn like a brain
- 26:28Speaker 3: fog over everything. You're kind of like, what do I
- 26:31Speaker 3: do now? Who am I? And at the time, like
- 26:33Speaker 3: I had almost tied myself to the job so much
- 26:35Speaker 3: that it was who my existence was. But that was
- 26:39Speaker 3: still the summer. You still ride this high, and for me,
- 26:43Speaker 3: the load didn't come until November. That's when I started
- 26:46Speaker 3: to see people moving on. That's when I started to
- 26:49Speaker 3: see like the Instagram comments stop. That's when I started
- 26:51Speaker 3: to like feel like there were other things happening where
- 26:54Speaker 3: like I wasn't going to be a part of.
- 26:55Speaker 1: So I'm like wow.
- 26:56Speaker 3: So then I felt really alone. But at the same
- 26:59Speaker 3: time time, through that whole thing, I was like, I'm
- 27:01Speaker 3: not giving up. So that's when I started partnering with
- 27:04Speaker 3: a lot of like companies on the side and doing
- 27:06Speaker 3: like the digital stuff, the videos and all stuff, and
- 27:08Speaker 3: it kind of pushed me into a world where I
- 27:10Speaker 3: was familiar with and I realized that I was like
- 27:12Speaker 3: having a lot of fun in and I kind of
- 27:14Speaker 3: kind of went down a different path like after that,
- 27:16Speaker 3: but it's not fun when.
- 27:18Speaker 1: It happens to you. You literally taught yourself how to
- 27:22Speaker 1: edit video like well nasty.
- 27:24Speaker 3: I had always had a love for video, and I
- 27:27Speaker 3: started to kind of dabble in the video and I
- 27:29Speaker 3: had done stuff in college, but I was like really
- 27:31Speaker 3: like loving video right before that. When I kind of
- 27:34Speaker 3: immersed myself in that in that entire world, like listen,
- 27:37Speaker 3: I'm gonna figure this out because I'm seeing that things
- 27:39Speaker 3: are going down that path. And then when I got fired,
- 27:42Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't have a choice besides this,
- 27:45Speaker 3: So then I just did it. And then I just
- 27:47Speaker 3: forced myself to learn as much as I can't he like,
- 27:48Speaker 3: even to this day, every day I learned something else
- 27:51Speaker 3: about video. I watch a video about somebody editing like
- 27:54Speaker 3: a certain way.
- 27:55Speaker 1: So if you don't follow Santy at Santi di Leo
- 27:58Speaker 1: on Instagram, just go scroll through his page. You'll see
- 28:01Speaker 1: what he does and the work that he does. It's unbelievable. Yeah,
- 28:04Speaker 1: it's really good. And that's another thing that you always
- 28:07Speaker 1: told me was that this isn't who you are.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 28:11Speaker 1: You got to have something outside of here. It can't
- 28:14Speaker 1: be everything, because guess what, one day could be gone
- 28:16Speaker 1: and then who are you.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't even say you have to have something else,
- 28:20Speaker 3: but don't tell yourself to this existence in the sense of,
- 28:23Speaker 3: like when it gets taken away, don't be lost on
- 28:25Speaker 3: who you are. So for me, I kind of did
- 28:29Speaker 3: that in a way, but shortly after I kind of
- 28:32Speaker 3: found my path. Now, if that happens again, I'm like
- 28:35Speaker 3: not as afraid of the whole thing, just because like
- 28:37Speaker 3: I feel like I have a path.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you remember what you said after you got
- 28:42Speaker 1: laid off and you were home what you said the
- 28:45Speaker 1: best part.
- 28:46Speaker 3: Was, oh, I spend a time with my family.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Yes, that you got to bring your son to the
- 28:50Speaker 1: bust off every day. Yes, I'll never forget that.
- 28:53Speaker 3: My son is now fifteen, turning sixteen in a couple months.
- 28:56Speaker 3: And at dinner this weekend, I started to cry because
- 28:59Speaker 3: I was like, he's two years away from college and
- 29:02Speaker 3: I'm dreading that day. But I was like that summer
- 29:06Speaker 3: that I got fired, that like I don't want to
- 29:08Speaker 3: say it saved me, but it really saved me. I go,
- 29:10Speaker 3: we would go to lunch like every like a couple
- 29:13Speaker 3: times a week, like all these things that I would
- 29:15Speaker 3: never have done if it wasn't for that. Yeah, Like
- 29:17Speaker 3: I'm getting like emotional right yeah now, but yeah, and
- 29:22Speaker 3: again I going back to it. I wouldn't change it
- 29:25Speaker 3: because I learned so much about myself and just about
- 29:28Speaker 3: life getting fired, Like it was probably the best thing
- 29:30Speaker 3: that happened to because also at the time, I wasn't
- 29:33Speaker 3: the nicest person. I had an ego, I had a
- 29:37Speaker 3: different viewpoint on a lot of things, and that was
- 29:39Speaker 3: so humbling in so many ways that it forced me
- 29:43Speaker 3: to change.
- 29:43Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought that up, my God, because
- 29:46Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that about my weight loss journey. Yeah.
- 29:49Speaker 1: So I had just started, and who's to say whether
- 29:51Speaker 1: I would have kept going if this didn't happen or not.
- 29:53Speaker 1: But it's a fact that after I started here and
- 29:55Speaker 1: I was working with you and you and Romero wa
- 29:57Speaker 1: all into fitness, you motivated me.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wasn't a nice way though. If I
- 30:03Speaker 3: could go back, I wouldn't have done it like that.
- 30:04Speaker 1: It's okay, it's what I'll give an example. Okay. I
- 30:08Speaker 1: would come in in the morning one day, and it
- 30:11Speaker 1: happened regularly. I would come in and I would walk
- 30:13Speaker 1: to my studio and then I would walk out into
- 30:15Speaker 1: the main studio and I would walk in and I'd
- 30:17Speaker 1: say good morning, and they'd say good morning, and then
- 30:20Speaker 1: Santo would look at me and goes, you know, I
- 30:22Speaker 1: can always hear when you're coming, and I go, what
- 30:24Speaker 1: do you mean? He goes The floor just kind of
- 30:26Speaker 1: shakes every time you walk boom boom. But listen, I
- 30:32Speaker 1: needed that. I know I needed that, and it motivated
- 30:35Speaker 1: me and thank you.
- 30:36Speaker 3: For that, but well yeah, well, I mean even at
- 30:38Speaker 3: home too. I wasn't the best husband when it comes
- 30:40Speaker 3: to like being present and even comments like that about
- 30:44Speaker 3: just just the gym. Now I look back to the
- 30:46Speaker 3: person that I was, I'm like, what was wrong with you?
- 30:49Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 30:49Speaker 1: You were doing crazy shit. I remember one time you
- 30:51Speaker 1: ate only lettuce for a week for a photo shoot.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the payoff is really good, but like
- 30:57Speaker 3: it's stupid.
- 30:59Speaker 1: And then you had your clothing line, clothing lines, and
- 31:01Speaker 1: I used to come out and help sell the T
- 31:03Speaker 1: shirt I rocked. Who wore more of your Modus collection
- 31:06Speaker 1: than me? I wore?
- 31:08Speaker 3: Thank you for that.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Very welcome, very welcome. So all right, speed it up here.
- 31:11Speaker 1: So then you get laid off, you start learning other things,
- 31:13Speaker 1: You get back into radio, not here but somewhere else
- 31:16Speaker 1: on the country station, and then you end up coming
- 31:19Speaker 1: back because Ashley got her show and she said I
- 31:21Speaker 1: won't do it without size.
- 31:22Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what's funny about that. At the time,
- 31:24Speaker 3: I was just getting ready to leave like the whole
- 31:25Speaker 3: industry as a whole, because I started this company on
- 31:27Speaker 3: the side that started to kind of like do kind
- 31:30Speaker 3: of well back then, I'm like uh, this could be interesting.
- 31:33Speaker 3: So I was gonna go all in on that because
- 31:34Speaker 3: I felt like my talents are being wasted at the
- 31:37Speaker 3: Country's station. I was like going in like every day
- 31:40Speaker 3: and being like what am I doing here? Like this
- 31:42Speaker 3: is like the waste of my time. I was literally
- 31:46Speaker 3: trying to leave, and then she called me. It's like, hey,
- 31:49Speaker 3: so I might have this opportunity. Would you come back?
- 31:51Speaker 3: I go, I don't want to, but because it's you,
- 31:54Speaker 3: I'm interested. So and she got me back in and
- 31:57Speaker 3: which was a huge thing because remember, like I got
- 31:59Speaker 3: to go from this company. I probably said some things
- 32:00Speaker 3: I should not have on a few podcasts about my boss,
- 32:03Speaker 3: all these things.
- 32:04Speaker 1: I wasn't going to bring that up, but okay, yeah.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Yeah, which I've apologized. And again going back to changing
- 32:09Speaker 3: like I probably would have I would handle things much
- 32:11Speaker 3: different now if I was in that situation back then.
- 32:14Speaker 3: So we were able to mend some fences there and
- 32:16Speaker 3: kind of get back into it. But I came back
- 32:17Speaker 3: into a situation that was better offten when than when
- 32:20Speaker 3: I left, and I had fun. It was it. It's
- 32:24Speaker 3: been awesome and looking back the past like five to
- 32:27Speaker 3: six years, I've gotten better at what I do. I
- 32:28Speaker 3: wasn't really prepared to kind of have that position when
- 32:31Speaker 3: I came back, and I know that now, but I
- 32:34Speaker 3: worked through it. I did all the reps, I did
- 32:35Speaker 3: everything I was supposed to. Now I feel like I'm
- 32:38Speaker 3: pretty good at what I do. But back then, I
- 32:40Speaker 3: was like, Yeah, looking back, I'm like I was probably
- 32:42Speaker 3: be in way over my head, which is okay, we
- 32:43Speaker 3: were all learning at that point, but yeah, I.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Mean listen, I watched you work every single day, yeah
- 32:49Speaker 1: back then, and it was like amazing to me watching
- 32:51Speaker 1: you work, and I learned a lot. But I will
- 32:54Speaker 1: say that, yeah, I've seen definitely a change in you
- 32:57Speaker 1: in a good way. Not that you were bad before.
- 32:59Speaker 3: I wasn't the nicest person. I'll look on a lot
- 33:01Speaker 3: of things were completely off. Yeah, it wasn't they When
- 33:05Speaker 3: I look back on it, I wasn't as empathetic on
- 33:07Speaker 3: a lot of things, and and looking back, I'm like, wow.
- 33:10Speaker 3: But I'm also being very clear. I've now been in
- 33:12Speaker 3: therapy for four years, which absolutely has changed my life.
- 33:15Speaker 3: Has changed my life, so I you know, there's different
- 33:19Speaker 3: size of every story. What's in my head is not
- 33:22Speaker 3: always right, so I'm always wrong, but it's just my
- 33:25Speaker 3: opinion on certain things. Somebody else might have a different
- 33:27Speaker 3: opinion and be empathetic to what they. You know, there's
- 33:29Speaker 3: all these things.
- 33:30Speaker 1: I just thought of one more prank that you did
- 33:31Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, that was pretty rough.
- 33:35Speaker 3: You.
- 33:35Speaker 1: I left my Facebook open.
- 33:37Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a good one.
- 33:38Speaker 1: This was a good and he posted me as me
- 33:42Speaker 1: that we were expecting a child.
- 33:44Speaker 3: Yes, this was a good one in the sense of
- 33:46Speaker 3: like it was funny in the time. But again, I
- 33:49Speaker 3: wouldn't go back and do this again because now as
- 33:51Speaker 3: a more moture adult, I'm like, you never know what
- 33:54Speaker 3: somebody's struggle is with conceiving, You never know what somebody's
- 33:57Speaker 3: history with all that stuff. And here I am post
- 34:00Speaker 3: thing and ultra sound saying their baby and what that
- 34:02Speaker 3: sets off on Facebook?
- 34:04Speaker 1: So my wife's phone was blowing up. My phone started
- 34:07Speaker 1: blowing up. I'm like, what is going on? And then
- 34:10Speaker 1: I see it. I go, Sadi, Yeah that was that
- 34:13Speaker 1: was a good one. That was a good one. So
- 34:15Speaker 1: it seems like you're in a good spot man now,
- 34:17Speaker 1: right spot. You still have the side bit side thing.
- 34:20Speaker 3: You know, Yes, And I was thinking a lot about
- 34:24Speaker 3: where that company have started. That company started as a
- 34:27Speaker 3: way for me just to kind of post my influencer
- 34:30Speaker 3: stuff without getting in trouble. Right now, it's grown into
- 34:33Speaker 3: a full agency that's.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Doing really so what what do you do?
- 34:36Speaker 3: In a nutshell? I helped small to medium size businesses
- 34:39Speaker 3: find their social media footprint because it's my belief now,
- 34:42Speaker 3: and I think it's a belief of most people that
- 34:44Speaker 3: a website alone is just not enough. You have to
- 34:47Speaker 3: have a strong social media presence as a business. But
- 34:50Speaker 3: not just that, you need a life to it. You
- 34:52Speaker 3: need to be consistent, consistently posting content on there that's
- 34:56Speaker 3: compelling and relates to your business. So I help people
- 34:58Speaker 3: do all that. I write, purdue, edit, shoot all types
- 35:02Speaker 3: of content for companies.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go watch some of the stuff on
- 35:04Speaker 1: his Instagram. It's crazy.
- 35:05Speaker 3: And most of the stuff people don't even know. The
- 35:07Speaker 3: companies that I've worked with people I might only know one,
- 35:11Speaker 3: but it's doing really well. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I know a bunch of them. Ok, yeah, I know
- 35:15Speaker 1: the number one Village Home Services.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.
- 35:19Speaker 1: How much money are they paying is the question?
- 35:22Speaker 3: You know what? The funny about them is that that
- 35:26Speaker 3: company kind of changed my projective, my perspective on a
- 35:29Speaker 3: lot of things. Yeah, because when I started working with
- 35:31Speaker 3: this one with a company, they believe in what I did.
- 35:34Speaker 3: And then also it just worked out so well that
- 35:36Speaker 3: it was like, wait a second, I feel like I
- 35:37Speaker 3: can do this, like on a bigger scale.
- 35:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:40Speaker 1: And you know, so any small business or medium size.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Small to medium sizes. Most of the bigger places have
- 35:46Speaker 3: in house people, which is completely fine, but the small
- 35:48Speaker 3: to medium sized businesses are are kind of like they
- 35:51Speaker 3: don't really know how to do it. And more so
- 35:53Speaker 3: service companies like blue collar type companies who are like
- 35:56Speaker 3: these construction guys. They don't know what the hell. They
- 35:58Speaker 3: don't have time that they want to work building homes,
- 36:01Speaker 3: They want to work on plumbing, they want to work
- 36:02Speaker 3: on all the stuff. Work with some insurance companies too,
- 36:05Speaker 3: Like these are like middle aged people who don't want
- 36:07Speaker 3: to do Instagram, but they know that they need to
- 36:09Speaker 3: have it in the everyday life of a business. Yeah,
- 36:12Speaker 3: so they come to someone like me will write their content.
- 36:14Speaker 3: We'll plan out the entire year and kind of follow
- 36:17Speaker 3: like an entire map and have consistent content up on
- 36:20Speaker 3: their Instagram socials.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you an example with village homes. So
- 36:24Speaker 1: we always like, we don't make fun of it, but
- 36:25Speaker 1: we just laugh about it because, well, it's a lot
- 36:28Speaker 1: of hosting. You put a lot of out there, which
- 36:30Speaker 1: is that's your business, right, But I'll give you an
- 36:32Speaker 1: example of why it works. Okay, So I'm a homeowner
- 36:34Speaker 1: and you do all types of videos and all different
- 36:37Speaker 1: different things that they offer, but one in particular is
- 36:40Speaker 1: about your fire alarms, yes, and making sure they work,
- 36:43Speaker 1: they're up to date, you have enough all that stuff,
- 36:45Speaker 1: and the way you did the video, I was thinking
- 36:47Speaker 1: to myself, I need to get this done, like I
- 36:50Speaker 1: need to have them come to my house and check
- 36:52Speaker 1: because it's dangerous and I need to know what's going on.
- 36:55Speaker 1: So that's one example. So someone sees that video and
- 36:57Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, yeah, okay, I need to do that.
- 36:59Speaker 4: Well.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Part of that comes from work in radio for so
- 37:02Speaker 3: long and like doing daily content. But it always needs
- 37:04Speaker 3: to be relatable and have people care. Right. I put
- 37:07Speaker 3: that same type of concept into my everyday business too.
- 37:10Speaker 3: It's like why should people care? But also it needs
- 37:12Speaker 3: to relate to the average person. With that one is
- 37:14Speaker 3: pretty simple, like listen, you don't want to die, so
- 37:17Speaker 3: why not invest in the fire alarms. It's that simple. Yeah,
- 37:20Speaker 3: so right now we're pushing a whole home generators. We'll
- 37:24Speaker 3: get you one thousand dollars off here we go.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Listen.
- 37:27Speaker 3: You might think I don't need it. We don't ever
- 37:29Speaker 3: lose power, which is probably the case, but it's that
- 37:31Speaker 3: one time when you lose power for a week and
- 37:33Speaker 3: your comfort's gone. You can't charge anything. Yeah, and then
- 37:36Speaker 3: it's unsafe for your family, your food spoils, like all
- 37:38Speaker 3: these things.
- 37:38Speaker 1: This is gonna cost like one hundred bucks for this plug. Love,
- 37:42Speaker 1: Santi Man, I could talk to you forever, But thank
- 37:45Speaker 1: you so much for coming on.
- 37:46Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This a lot of fun.
- 37:48Speaker 1: We didn't even mention your your family, your Joanne. You've
- 37:50Speaker 1: been with how many years married?
- 37:51Speaker 3: I'm married twenty years.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Yeah, met at Endicott College and.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're all together, probably been together for like
- 37:57Speaker 3: twenty four years.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have four kids. When I started interning,
- 38:01Speaker 1: Colin had only been born.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Really yes, Yeah, Now my daughter's are thirteen and we
- 38:05Speaker 3: also have an eight year old.
- 38:07Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Yeah, you have twins, twin daughters, which, by the way,
- 38:10Speaker 3: I'm coaching the middle school basketball team. Really try out
- 38:13Speaker 3: to next next week. Yeah, no way, you live in Hollis. Yep.
- 38:17Speaker 1: When I met you, you were living in allum Pelham
- 38:20Speaker 1: on Litchfield Lichfield Circle, Lichfield Circle. I remember, yeah, yeah,
- 38:24Speaker 1: I remember. I went to your house and I go,
- 38:26Speaker 1: I'm going to have a house like this one day,
- 38:28Speaker 1: and then I did. Good, you know what I mean? Yeah,
- 38:30Speaker 1: And I've been to your new house. It's beautiful. It's
- 38:32Speaker 1: it's really nice. It's really nice. So uh, I well,
- 38:35Speaker 1: wishes to you and everything, and thank you for all
- 38:38Speaker 1: you've done for me.
- 38:39Speaker 3: No, again, I can't take credit for the work that
- 38:41Speaker 3: you put put in you. Thank you for everything you've
- 38:44Speaker 3: done for me.
- 38:44Speaker 1: So do you get? So do you get I mean
- 38:47Speaker 1: I phrased this here when you when you look at me,
- 38:50Speaker 1: do you ever think back to that that day I
- 38:52Speaker 1: came in and be like, oh, like you saw something
- 38:55Speaker 1: in me?
- 38:56Speaker 3: But you I think you would go to this? Yes,
- 38:58Speaker 3: I absolutely did. Justin every step of you there was
- 39:01Speaker 3: Whenever I asked you to do anything, it just got done.
- 39:04Speaker 3: And that was always you. So I'm so I'm definitely no,
- 39:07Speaker 3: I'm this was expected.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean that.
- 39:10Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people that I can't say that.
- 39:11Speaker 1: For so, I believe there's a saying that hard work
- 39:15Speaker 1: beats talent. I do believe that, not in every sense
- 39:20Speaker 1: of the word. I'm like a Matt Siegel. Matt Siegel
- 39:23Speaker 1: didn't do any hard work, but he was super talented
- 39:25Speaker 1: and was so successful.
- 39:26Speaker 3: But it just makes you think though that if he
- 39:28Speaker 3: had the hard work part or had more of that,
- 39:31Speaker 3: what that could have been.
- 39:32Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, but for me,
- 39:34Speaker 1: you know, not that I don't think that I'm talented,
- 39:37Speaker 1: but I believe that I can work hard and I
- 39:39Speaker 1: can bring something to the table, like getting things done,
- 39:41Speaker 1: going the extra mile. I remember me remember this interning, okay,
- 39:45Speaker 1: and there would be mornings where it would be slow, right,
- 39:48Speaker 1: and I would clean the morning show office.
- 39:50Speaker 3: Yes, I do remember.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Nobody would tell me I would, just it was dirty,
- 39:53Speaker 1: so I'm like, I need to do something. I'm not
- 39:55Speaker 1: just gonna sit here on my phone. So I would
- 39:56Speaker 1: clean it, you know, not for brownie points, but because
- 39:59Speaker 1: I was there to do it job.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I remember that.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I did. So we had a lot
- 40:03Speaker 1: of fun.
- 40:03Speaker 4: Man.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But thank you for coming ontime and your Instagram Santi
- 40:08Speaker 1: you have a TikToker across the board, de Olio yep,
- 40:12Speaker 1: follow him and remember, we'll leave you with three words.
- 40:16Speaker 1: Can you guess what the three words are? No Village
- 40:20Speaker 1: Home Services. Thanks buddy,