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A SPECIAL SPECIAL GUEST... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Welcome in everybody. It is
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  Speaker 1: the After Show podcast. I'm justin. I am the only
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  Speaker 1: host left on this podcast. I used to have a
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  Speaker 1: co host named Winnie who's no longer here. Winnie, love
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  Speaker 1: you miss you. She did the podcast with me several years,
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  Speaker 1: but then there was just one. It's just me and
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you haven't been around for a while,
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  Speaker 1: I've been talking about, you know, what I should do
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  Speaker 1: with the podcast as the only person left. Should I
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  Speaker 1: continue the podcast? And the feedback is mostly that I
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  Speaker 1: should should continue the podcast and have different guests on, right, Billy, Lisa,
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  Speaker 1: maybe producer Riley one day, people in this building, people
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  Speaker 1: in my life. You know, we've had Power of Recovery
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  Speaker 1: on Jenna, my stretch girl who I love. Nurse Fiona
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  Speaker 1: has been on before, so different people that I have
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  Speaker 1: relationships with I'm gonna invite on. So we had Lisa
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday. And Lisa has always been a requested guest
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  Speaker 1: on the after Show, but she's just so busy it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to get her in here. She has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of endorsements, a lot of clients, obviously the book club.
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  Speaker 1: But the other person that was heavily requested, was my
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  Speaker 1: best friend in the whole world named Zeb. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't know who Zeb is, which I'm sure you do,
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  Speaker 1: because I posted a tease about today's podcast on my
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and it literally blew up, So I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: you know who he is. You can find him on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram at zeb days. He is my best friend, he's
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  Speaker 1: my workout partner. We've been friends. We're gonna go through
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  Speaker 1: the whole story for a long time. He sits at
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  Speaker 1: eighty four thousand followers on Instagram to my twenty and
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  Speaker 1: I invited him on yesterday. I texted him and I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: would you want to come on my podcast any day
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  Speaker 1: Monday through Wednesday of any week. I was thinking in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and he said, how about tomorrow?
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  Speaker 1: And here he is. Welcome Zeb. Thank you. Okay, talk
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  Speaker 1: right into the mic. Come on, pretend, hold on, pretend
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  Speaker 1: like you're making a real that you do every single day.
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, how you doing? Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: There? You go?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. I'm very excited. Second time.
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  Speaker 3: On last time I was on, Bex was here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was when Bex was here.
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  Speaker 2: So you came in, I came in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while, but yeah, I'm excited when
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  Speaker 3: you when you reached out, I was a little nervous.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I think people, I
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  Speaker 1: think people have a lot of questions or not questions,
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  Speaker 1: but they want to know more about you, want to
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  Speaker 1: know more about us, maybe our friendship. So we'll go
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  Speaker 1: through the whole story, right and get to know Zeb
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, sit back, relax.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell my side of the story first on
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  Speaker 1: how we met, because what happened with you, Zeb is
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  Speaker 1: you know, people know that we work out together, that
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  Speaker 1: we're friends. Obviously, that's in in have Wor that's where
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  Speaker 1: you live. I used to live there. That's where where
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  Speaker 1: we met. Yeah, so we're workout buddies, we're friends and everything.
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  Speaker 1: But then you kind of had this social media takeover
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  Speaker 1: where you've kind of grown this large following. Yes, which
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  Speaker 1: is pretty cool, right, Yes? And you know, so people
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  Speaker 1: watch your videos and what you do with the Cardigans,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what you do every Sunday and how
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  Speaker 1: you give back, and you know, you're just all around
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  Speaker 1: a funny dude. You're really good at it. You know that.
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  Speaker 1: I know that, right, but people don't really maybe they
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  Speaker 1: don't know you per se all the way, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, and they might have questions that maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll answer today. How's that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so let's let's go back to Let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to twoenty twelve. In twenty twelve. I got
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  Speaker 1: clean in two thousand and eight. And when I got clean,
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  Speaker 1: I put down the drugs that cleaned up my life.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I replaced one thing with another, and
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  Speaker 1: that would be food for drugs, and so I blew up.
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  Speaker 1: I gained all this weight. If you know this story,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Just I'll go quick. I gained all this weight.
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  Speaker 1: I blew up to over three hundred pounds. I think
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  Speaker 1: the last time I weighed myself, I was three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds. I was giant, okay, And I
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  Speaker 1: had dreams in my mind of wanting to be fit
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  Speaker 1: my life. But I never had the courage or a
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  Speaker 1: will power to join a gym and continue to go.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, I didn't know what to do. Number two.
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  Speaker 1: I felt embarrassed and I felt ashamed, and I was
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  Speaker 1: intimidated by people in the gym. So I would join
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  Speaker 1: gyms throughout the years, different times, and then I would
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  Speaker 1: just never go. So in twenty twelve, I had my
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  Speaker 1: final moment right and that was I was overweight, I
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  Speaker 1: was out of shape. And this one day I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to speak at a recovery event. It was at
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock at night. I came home from work. I
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  Speaker 1: was cooking at friendlies at the time. On my way home.
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  Speaker 1: Every day I would get a large pizza with extra
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  Speaker 1: cheese and I would eat the whole thing to the
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  Speaker 1: face every single day. Okay, And so this one day
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  Speaker 1: I got home at about three or four o'clock with
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  Speaker 1: my pizza. I eat the whole thing like I did,
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  Speaker 1: but this day, for some reason, maybe I eat too
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  Speaker 1: much food earlier in the day, I got stuffed and
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  Speaker 1: I passed out into a food coma, and I overslept
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  Speaker 1: for my engagement, my speaking thing, and I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up it was like eight thirty and I
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  Speaker 1: came two like I was on drugs. And I looked
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  Speaker 1: at the clock and realized and looked at my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Saw people blowing at my phone. They didn't know where
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  Speaker 1: I was. And my first thought of complete shame was
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  Speaker 1: I want to get high, and because I was in recovery,
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  Speaker 1: I'd been cleaned for four years. I real quick I
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  Speaker 1: was able to play the tape through like, that's not
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  Speaker 1: an option, right, no matter what, we don't use, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what. That's kind of one of the mantras in recovery.
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  Speaker 1: And my next thought was I'm gonna kill myself because
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  Speaker 1: that seemed to be the next viable option. And at
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  Speaker 1: that moment was like a rock bottom for me. And
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  Speaker 1: I got out of that and I talked to some
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  Speaker 1: people and I was like, I need to make a
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  Speaker 1: change in my life. Okay, So I thought about it
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  Speaker 1: in recovery sense, right. So when I got cleaned from drugs,
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  Speaker 1: I went to drug meetings, okay. And what I did
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  Speaker 1: was I showed up no matter what. Right, didn't use drugs,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, showed up to meetings, no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought, what if I use that to the gym.
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  Speaker 1: So I said to myself, what if I joined the
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  Speaker 1: gym and just go three days a week, walk in,
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  Speaker 1: walk to a treadmill, walk for twenty minutes, walk out nobody,
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  Speaker 1: I don't talk to anybody, It'll be fine, good. And
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  Speaker 1: I stuck to that no matter what, and I did
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  Speaker 1: that week after week after week, and eventually I did
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  Speaker 1: forty minutes or thirty minutes, and eventually I did four
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  Speaker 1: days in five days. So now I'm doing cardio all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Right now, the cardio at the gym stood
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  Speaker 1: it overlooked the weight room. Okay. So every day I
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  Speaker 1: would go at around three o'clock and I walk right
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  Speaker 1: in with my hoodie on, and I get on the
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  Speaker 1: cardio and I started to get more confident. But the
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  Speaker 1: weight room I would never go on. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to lift weights right now, you remember this, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So you work for the city of Haveril in the
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  Speaker 1: waste water department. A lot of people know that to
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  Speaker 1: follow you. So you go at the same time every day,
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  Speaker 1: which is around three o'clock. Yes, okay, So every day
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  Speaker 1: I would go on to the same treadmill and I
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  Speaker 1: would look out at the people that were lifting weights,
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  Speaker 1: like envious of them, okay. And I would see the
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  Speaker 1: same people every day because people have the same schedules.
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  Speaker 1: And I would see zeb walk in and work out. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: as a heterosexual male, I didn't look at Zev and
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  Speaker 1: be like, wow, that is a fucking beautiful man. But
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, that motherfucker is good looking and
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  Speaker 1: he's jacked. And I noticed it wasn't just that that
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  Speaker 1: I noticed about you. I noticed that you were you
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  Speaker 1: had a workout partner, but you also were helping other
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  Speaker 1: people in the gym. I would notice that, like you
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  Speaker 1: would be working out with this kid, and then you
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  Speaker 1: see other people working out, maybe they had bad form
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  Speaker 1: or something, and you would go over very gently and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you need some help? And I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. So eventually I made my way onto the
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  Speaker 1: weight room floor. I had a friend that Chris. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Chris who was my workout partner, and we
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  Speaker 1: kind of learned what to do a little bit, and
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  Speaker 1: we'd see zeb every day. We never talked to him,
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  Speaker 1: but we talk about him. And I would say to Chris,
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  Speaker 1: if he were here, he would back the story up.
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  Speaker 1: He would say, I would say, that's what I want
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  Speaker 1: to look like, Like that's my dream goal, like that physique,
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  Speaker 1: but not just the physique, but like that person. Right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm my own person, but I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: like my dream would be to get into shape and
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  Speaker 1: help others, right, because that's what my life was about
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  Speaker 1: helping others. And so one day I was with Chris
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  Speaker 1: working out doing our thing, and Zeb was there and
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  Speaker 1: he walked by us and he said. He looked at
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  Speaker 1: me and he goes, hey, how you doing. I said good.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, my name is Zeb. I said, I'm justin.
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  Speaker 1: This is Chris. He said, nice to meet you, Chris
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  Speaker 1: some I'm Zeb, good to meet you. I see you
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  Speaker 1: guys there every day. Keep going, keep doing what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, thank you. Zeb walks away. I look at
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  Speaker 1: Chris and I go he say his name is Zeb,
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  Speaker 1: and Chris goes, no, dude, his name's Jeb. I go no,
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  Speaker 1: he said Zeb with a Z. He goes, justin nobody's
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  Speaker 1: name Zeb. Okay. He said Jeb like Jebediah okay, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like okay. And then fast forward on one day
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  Speaker 1: Chris didn't show up to the gym and I was
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  Speaker 1: doing legs and your partner Zeb stopped showing up that
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  Speaker 1: day and I was on one machine, you were on another,
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  Speaker 1: and you saw me and you walked over and you said,
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  Speaker 1: where's your partner? I said, he's not here today. You said,
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  Speaker 1: he said, mine's not either. Do you want to work
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  Speaker 1: out and from that day forward, we worked out every
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  Speaker 1: single day, every day, right, every day, every day. I
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  Speaker 1: just kept showing up because that was I dream. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I had this kid to help me, and
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  Speaker 1: you taught me how to lift, You taught me how
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  Speaker 1: to push myself. You were there for not just gym stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but life stuff. And that was a really special moment,
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  Speaker 1: so much so that I got married six months after fact,
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  Speaker 1: and I invited you to my wedding.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, there it is.
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  Speaker 1: We actually kind of bumped somebody off the list so
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  Speaker 1: that you could be there. Yeah. Pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Apreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: And we're still going now now. We work out one
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  Speaker 1: day a week now because I moved to sail in
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, but you're still there Choice Fitness baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's still leg day when we work.
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  Speaker 1: Out every Wednesday. We do legs together. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the really cool thing about ZEB two is see
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  Speaker 1: what happens is I'm thinking about us, you and I
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  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about I know I'm talking a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm trying to like lead into this Before I
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  Speaker 1: opened the floor to you, I want to know if
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  Speaker 1: you agree with this. So I when I met Zeb,
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  Speaker 1: when we met Zeb obviously my Chris was there, he's
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  Speaker 1: in recovery. And then you know, sure, sure, slowly but
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  Speaker 1: surely he came to my wedding and he started coming
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  Speaker 1: out with us, my friends who are all in recovery.
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  Speaker 1: We don't drink, we don't do drugs. Ye, same, And
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  Speaker 1: I think for you it really helped you because I
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  Speaker 1: know at that time you never drank, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: well you did a little bit, but not really right.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't it was shortlift.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, drugs never really no drugs. So you're straight edge.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you do when you're you know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight or the twenty nine years old? People go out
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  Speaker 1: in the weekends. So I remember you saying to me,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, you guys don't drink or anything. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: like no, and he's like, it's amazing. You go out
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  Speaker 1: and have fun. He goes, I was going to the
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  Speaker 1: bar on Friday night and drinking ginger ale? Yeah? Is
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  Speaker 1: that is that repressing?
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  Speaker 2: Is that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Being left out because that's where.
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  Speaker 3: You meet people, right, And so I look around and
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  Speaker 3: people would be drinking and I'd feel like the I
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  Speaker 3: feel like everybody's looking at you, like, why aren't you drinking?
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  Speaker 3: And so I would leave the bars and it was
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  Speaker 3: that was that was shore lived. That didn't want that
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  Speaker 3: feeling anymore.
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  Speaker 2: So I left.
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  Speaker 3: But and then I met you guys. So my my story.
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  Speaker 3: I'll share a little bit about me, my journey through
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  Speaker 3: coming to the gym.
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  Speaker 2: So I I grew.
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  Speaker 1: Up, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was always overweight.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get I don't know how much I you know,
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  Speaker 3: how long your program, as.
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  Speaker 1: Long as you want.
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  Speaker 2: But we got So I grew up in a big family.
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  Speaker 1: And well, how many brothers and stuff?
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  Speaker 3: I got eight brothers and sisters. I have five brothers
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  Speaker 3: and three sisters. We're from Medford, Yeah, shout out. And
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  Speaker 3: we grew up and my father was the only one
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  Speaker 3: work and my mother, she stayed home, homeschooled us, all
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  Speaker 3: of us.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: M uh So there's one income, very little, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with nine kids, there's not a lot like I've never
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  Speaker 3: been to Disneyland. The closest thing I've been to Disneyland
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  Speaker 3: is Canny be Late Storyland story Land, which I went
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  Speaker 3: for the first time this year.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of hand me a lot of hand me down,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hand me downs.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Every Friday, it seems somebody would leave a trash bag
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  Speaker 3: full of closed at the door.
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  Speaker 1: But hold on, so you so you come from a
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  Speaker 1: very Christian home. Yes, your your dad is a was
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  Speaker 1: dad a pastor?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a minister?
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  Speaker 2: Past dad was a pastor.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in the church, going to a church
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  Speaker 3: right here at Medford Square, and so we grew up.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's how we grew up. But I also being
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  Speaker 3: being homeschooled. I tell people, they're like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have a feel like you missed out. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I missed out on a lot of things. But then
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  Speaker 3: I also missed out on a lot of things, like
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get real I didn't have to deal with
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  Speaker 3: the bullying.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know I was I I.
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  Speaker 3: Did get bullied by the local kids in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: When you go out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it was not the same as going
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  Speaker 3: to school. I don't know how I would have adapted
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  Speaker 3: to school I had. I didn't like school. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see the point when I got out of school. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't see the point of pain to go back. So
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go to college. I ended up doing college
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  Speaker 3: courses later. But we grew up kind of, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: not I don't want to say poor, because there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of you know you as food on the table.
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  Speaker 3: I was always fool on the table, but there wasn't
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  Speaker 3: It was just enough. So when I got capable, it
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  Speaker 3: started work and I started buying a lot of junk food, which.
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  Speaker 2: I started packing on the palms.
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  Speaker 1: Baby.
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  Speaker 3: So I was two seventy at my heaviest, wow, and
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  Speaker 3: it was just fluff, no muscle, no muscle, no, I
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  Speaker 3: was just big. People like, oh, you didn't look that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, but I was. I was fluffy. And
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  Speaker 3: I saw a picture of myself. This was the breaking point.
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  Speaker 3: I saw a picture of myself from Christmas and the
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  Speaker 3: table I had this is this, That is another one,
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  Speaker 3: that is another one.
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  Speaker 2: That's that was.
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty two and I saw a picture of
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  Speaker 3: myself with my sister Abigail, and she was standing in
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  Speaker 3: front of the Crisas tree and I see my gut,
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  Speaker 3: I see my arms, and I was so I felt
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  Speaker 3: so bad about myself. I says that how I look
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  Speaker 3: And it was like a wake up call. So I
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  Speaker 3: went and again, like you, I didn't want to go
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  Speaker 3: to the gym. What we always say, what's the hottest pot?
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  Speaker 3: Of going to the gym is walking through the front
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  Speaker 3: of us. That's the hardest thing. So I and I
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  Speaker 3: used to work with this kid who was a cook
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  Speaker 3: at the window in andover and his name.
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  Speaker 2: Ricky.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, if you go to the gym, and
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  Speaker 3: he was a little heavier, if you go to the gym,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to the gym.
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  Speaker 2: So he joined, and I said, now I have to
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  Speaker 2: go because you. So I went and I did the
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: same exact thing. I just would go.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: I walk in, I go right for the treadmill, and
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: I'd watch people work out because I have no I'm
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: a novice. I had no idea what I was doing,
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: and I didn't I was I was too afraid to ask.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to seem like, you know, an idiot,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: so I didn't want to ask for how do you
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: How do you do this?
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: So I would watch people work out and then I
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: would copy their workouts. Eventually, but it took me a
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: long time. It took me six months. And I dropped
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the weight that I wanted to drop and I got
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: on the floor and that's where my that's where it
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: all started. And then I just started. I jumped from
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Jim partner to the gym partner, and no one was consistent.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody would fall off. They would just go you know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: they had they did their own thing. It was never
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: a commitment. It was they would never have that. I
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: had the drive because I didn't want to go back
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: to that zeb of overweight zeb. So the but the
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: gym is done more for me than physical. It's my therapy,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: and I think you can it's it is like you
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: go there, you can walk through those double doors and
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: it's just like everything for an hour and a half
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: two hours, it just fades away and you just put
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: your body through this test and you push it, and
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: it's it's hard. It's hard because a lot of people
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: are we fight this lazy bone in our body and uh,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: we all do it. There's nobody that has that wakes
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: up with with the drive to do something. We have
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: to push through and some of a lot of times
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: people are they're driven by family. I got to wake
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: up my kids, I gotta wake up, I gotta make
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: money to keep a roof over the head, or you
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: got to wake up because.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: You want to have the drive that I had.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to go back to that, so I
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: was so afraid if I stop going to the gym,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I'd end up back in that box that I was,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: and I didn't want it, so hold on.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: That's so similar to me, because when I would pushed
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: me so hard was the same thing. I did not
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: want to go back to that feeling I had when
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I woke up and I wanted to kill myself. So
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: like I kept pushing through the first year. Every morning
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I would wake up, my first thought would be like,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the gym. Yeah, anyway ahead.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yep, and I would. I would.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I would be so I wouldn't go home because I
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: knew if I went home from work, I wouldn't leave home.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: So I would do I would literally don't do this
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: at home.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Kids.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I would change in my car going coming from work.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I would change into my work from my work clothes
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: to my gym clothes. In the car at stop lights,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I'd take my shirt off, I quick put put a
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: new shirt on, take my my socks, I shoes off,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: put shorts on, and I would stay. I would do
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: five weeks, five days, and I would just But again,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: it was I had to at least get in there,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and I felt off if I didn't go. I would
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: like something's missing. And fast forward to I think it
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: was twenty fourteen. Yeah, twenty fourteen, I met you and
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Chris and that day I still remember. I still remember
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the squat rack, the old squat rack they used to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: have they get rid of. And from that day on,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: because Artie didn't show up and he didn't like.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Doing legs, he was your gym potter.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I'll hopefully he's he's learned. But yeah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: he didn't show up and I was like, yeah, I
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: don't I don't have any work out with legs. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: here we are. Yeah, went to the wedding, met a
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: bunch of your friends, which are now my friends.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you became part of the family. Yeah, everyone loved you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: And yeah, the legs thing is I always loved training
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: legs because it's the hardest thing and I like doing
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: hard things, and it really is our friendship and bond
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: started with a leg workout. Yeah, and we used to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: do crazy workouts. I mean at the time twenty fifteen,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen, I was producing for Ryan
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Seacrest from ten to two, So which is you basically
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: do all the work, like all the editing and then
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you just sit there. And I used to every day
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I go in and while I was eating, I'd look
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: up hardest leg workout on the internet and I would
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: show up to ZEB with a whole written out workout
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: every every day every day, you know, not legs every day,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: but different workouts, and we just push ourselves.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I remember the one you came. It was in crayon.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You had like, yeah, it was in crayon. You wrote
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it on a piece of paper. It was DTP yep,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: the first time we did DTP. And it's just it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: pretty much just pyramid. You go up light weight, lightweight,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: heavy rep and then heavyweight light rep and huh that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: workout couldn't even walk out.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Looked like a baby deal.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Well, our goal was to limp out of the gym
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: all the time. And you know, it's crazy because our
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: gym journey has been so wild, Like it's just you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I all like major points in my life. I can
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: think back, like where I was in the gym at
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that time. You know, I connect that to everything, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and like you said, eventually you met my friends and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you came part of the family and all that stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And like I said, you were my wedding and then wait,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: so okay, so do you want to talk about the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: So you came from a Christian home, right, So I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: want to get to this part of it because people
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that follow you, they see the cardigans thing you do
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and you take donations, yes, and you go to this
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Elvis cardigans.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Note, just cardigans. Don't say I'm getting sent bags.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Oh oh really yeah, okay.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Just send cardigan if you're gonna send it my peel
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: boxes on my page. But people were sending me like
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: they're old pants and underwear.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, so just cardigans. And it's just it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: so funny to me. Okay, before you explain the whole,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like social media and what you do on Sundays and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, what's so crazy to me, so so
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: funny to me is what do people know you for
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: on Instagram? Right? They know you for crap? You should
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: know that's where it started, right, Will you do useless facts?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Because you're good with the camera. And I think one
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: time you told me years ago, correct me if I'm wrong,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that when you were growing up, when you were a
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: little kid, you did have dreams of being like on
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: TV or in movies or acting and some sense. Is
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that true? Yeah, So it makes sense that with social
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: media you kind of found that, you know, because you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: didn't go that route in life, and now you kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of had that kind of outlet. And you're really good
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: obviously you know that. But when I met you, okay,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I learned about you you were a Christian. What I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: really loved about it because I've gone to your church,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I've been there. What I really loved about you is
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you you never tried to push it on me or
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: anybody else. You basically were like, this is what I do,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and if you want what I have, just do what
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I do. Right, These are my beliefs, this is what
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I believe, this is my faith. But you never were
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: like you know, because that's what turns people off. I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, and then I end up going
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to your church and loved it, you know what I mean.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: But when I met you, I learned about that part
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of your life. I went to the church at the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: elderly Home. You've been holding it for years there. Every
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Sunday you go for these people in the home that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: are the forgotten ones. Right, you bring them cardigans and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you hold a service your dad used to hold it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and your dad was the minister or the pastor. Yes,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: then your dad passed a couple of years ago, few
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: years ago.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Now, right, when was that two thousand and one?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry twenty one. Yeahah, so four years ago, four
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: years and then you've taken you've taken it over. Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: There was a little gap because of COVID couldn't go in. Yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: but right as soon as you can open the doors.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: As soon as they opened the doors, we went back
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: in and started it back just will be.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: We just picked up yeft off so you you would
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you were doing that when I met you, okay, over
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: ten years ago. Also, I'm not making this up. The
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: first time that you came out with my friends and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I on Guys Night, you were wearing a cardigan. Yes,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And Chris, who was the biggest ball buster of the group,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: could not let it go. No, He's like, dude, are
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you wearing a fucking cardigan? Like? And we brought it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: up for years after and you've always been the cardigan guy. Okay.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So fast forward now and now that's like your persona
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: right is you have your church which you document not
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: inside of the church, but like the car bringing donating
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: cardigans to them. So you've been doing this right for
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: years now, you just document it right, Yes, I just
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: because people were wondering what I did. One I remember
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the day it was. It was a cold day. It
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was a very quick thing. I had a cardigan on
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and I didn't even expect to become the quote Cardigan
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: King end quote that people call me now.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: And I was just I didn't think. It's life never
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: turns out the way that you expect it. That never,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: it's always. That's the true statement. So yeah, I've we've
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: been doing the we were doing the sunny services, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I went in and I said, whatever is in your
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: het comes out your mouth, whatever is it, Whatever comes
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: out your mouth is in your heart. So if you're
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: spewing negativity and you're playing people down or whatever, you
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: got to fix your heart. So that's then that blew up.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And I said, Okay, there's something here. And then I
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: bought a I got I bought a condo and this
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: woman had left, who had passed away. She had left
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: tuppleware containers full of these cardigans, and I said, oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get rid of these. What I
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: can do is I'll give them away at the nursing home.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: So I get to the nursing home that Sunday and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, let me just throw one on. So I
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: threw one on and I did this little fashion show
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and then who would have thought like them?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It just blew up.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: And that's how the status on social media on.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be known for useless crap, crap,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and that's what I started with, and that was going nowhere.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: And I have to give you a shout out because
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: you you had talked to me on multiple ocasions. I
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: do have to say something. So Justin, you have to
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: get yourself a friend. A true friend is someone who
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: tells you things regardless if it hurts your feelings, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: they say it in love. Justin is been you have
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: been that for me. The constructive criticism is heard as hard.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Many marry, many therapy sessions at the gym of where
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I should be, what I should and if you had
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: overstepped you you were quick to apologize, and that right
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: there it has reinforced.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And we work out, you know.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: We see each other here and there and we work
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: out Wednesdays and it's like, but that bond, that's an
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: unbreakable bond because of a true friendship. And that's why
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: when you asked me yesterday, I was like, come on tomorrow.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: And it's but that he is a true friend and
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: he is the He is a big part of me
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: breaking out of my shell. And you said, this is
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: this is your this is what it is. You need
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to do this. And when I went on a hiatus
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: earlier this year, social media got to me a little
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: bit and I needed to take a break. I stepped
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: back for a couple of months, and you came to
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: me and you said, listen, people listen to you.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You cannot let this go.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: People are watching you for inspiration, for comfort, like this
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: is something it's more about. It's more than you. Now
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you were the force, and so I looked at it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I prayed about it, and we're back. Yeah, we're back, baby,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: We're back at full force. I get cardigans. My trunk,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I bet is packed full of CARDI like I'm getting
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I gotta go to the peel box when i leave
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: here and pick up more cardigans. And I love that
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: people want to give and I like that people are
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: seeing a little bit of kindness, like the world in
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: this in this state where.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You could consider yourself an influencer, right. Anybody who's on
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: social media with a lodge presence could be considered an
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: influencer for many different things, food, whatever. I think what
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you're doing is so positive. And I'll give you a story,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a quick story. I already told you this, but I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was at an event for my son's school recently a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and there were some listeners there.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: They came up to me and said they listened to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the show whatever. And it's always super nice, you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I say, I always say thank you for listening. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: this one woman comes up to me and she says,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: justin I'm a big fan of the show. Nice to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: meet you. I said, nice to meet you too, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: she goes, I just have to say and she kind
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of got like choked up, and she goes, I just
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: want to say thank you. And in my head I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: thought she was gonna say for sharing your story and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: your addiction. Maybe it's because it happens all the time,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: people say I lost my brother to an overdose or whatever.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm in recovery. He goes, thank you, and I just
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: want to say thank you, and then she kind of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: paused and she said for giving us zeb and I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: looked up at her and I'm like, it caught me
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: off guard, and I'm like, oh yeah, and she goes,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he is just a gift to this earth. He has
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: gotten me through so much. I love his videos. He
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is just a gem and I just want to say
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: thank you for sharing him with all of us or
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: introducing us. And I was like, I was laughing so hot.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I went to Gen. I told we were laugh my wife.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And that really speaks volumes though, because I know you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: have fun doing it with the reels and they're really
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: funny and stuff, but people really get a lot out
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of them. So it's a form of service. And I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: know that in my world, the recovery is all about service.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: What you do in the Christian world as a Christian
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: is service. What you're doing every Sunday is service. The
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: highest calling you can have is it really is. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I think one of the most profound things about what
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you do with the the elderly home. As I mentioned
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: this earlier when I first started going with you, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I need to come back. I need to just do it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: What happened was my son was born. It was before Abel.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Once Abel was born, it was like, all game over.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: But now I can go. So I'm gonna come. I'm
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: gonna come. I'm gonna get problem.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: We'll give you a cat again. Okay, I got the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: raccoon catigan for you. And I didn't even know that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you were going to talk about raccoons on the show.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I know he wore we'll get a picture of that
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and post that up. But when I went to the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to the to the.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Service with you and your dad is when your dad
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was alive, you explained to me after we get out,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, what that was like? Really something? And
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you go justin like these are the forgotten people, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I go, I know it's it's really sad. You go, no, no, no,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you don't understand these people in these home in Methuin,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: that's where it is. Their families live in mathun Like.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: They don't live across the country and they're not flying here.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: They live down the street and they don't come visit
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: their family members. They are forgotten. In this one hour
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that I come in and give a message, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: about Jesus and about God and about faith is what
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they look forward to every week. It makes them so happy,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and you should. They are so happy. You used to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: post some.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Of them, right, yeah, I did.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: They there's like hippo laws now so I but I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I also don't film inside because I don't want to
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: be one of those like look at me doing good.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I do the card to get out front, and I
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: show you what people is and I give you a
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: little message. It's a pre uh a, it's a what
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: are they what they called? It's just a it's a
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: little bit of what I talk about with them. Any
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: message I give on Sunday morning to the Instagram or TikTok,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it's it's that's what I'll talk about with them. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of it is just is trying to give
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: them some hope. And there's two things I'll say. One,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you hear if you breathe, there's still purpose, there's still
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: time to do something into and to And my first
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and foremost is put your trust in God, like trust
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: in Jesus. It's it's the best decision you'll ever make.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: And second to do with the nursing home. I say
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: this the only difference between nursing homes in prison. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I know this sounds harsh, but this is I've been
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: going for a lot for a long time is the bars.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: They have ankle brace ankle bracelets. They can't leave, like
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: they're not just going out. Some people can't and go
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: into the court yet. And I'm not bashing, it's just
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: they can't. This to the staff is not there or
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the meaning they're understaffed, or they they just can't physically.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I can't get out there. And it's it's really sad
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: because I'm coming to them. And this is one or
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: two women especially, I go in there and they're like
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: they just crying. They cry, they're crying tears and they say,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I just want to get out of here, and so
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I give them a big hug, kiss and I give them,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: give them something, and I try to and I'll sing
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: to them.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go room to room.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, zeb sayings during the second I saw that firsthand.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And we'll sing and we'll sing to them.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And because I'm like, I don't have a good I'm no,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I'm no crooner, I'm no what Frank Sinatra or I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, Like but that little
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that little time, it lights up that like it's just
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I'm I don't it's not for me, it's for them.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But that's it's very similar to recovery and service is
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you know, you're doing it for them, but you are
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: getting something out of it too, just like not that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you're looking for that, but it gives you. It gives
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you peace, right, it makes you feel good because you're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: doing something for for someone else. That's what service is. Yes,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it's not because I think in this might be my
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: case more than you because you kind of grew up
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: in that environment of like, you know, helping others, right,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But we're selfish people. I'll speak to myself like, I'm
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: self centered. I think about myself first and that's something
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that I've really had to work on and changing that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: line of thinking. So you know, when you help others,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you're helping them and you're doing a service, and that's great,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: but you're also getting something out of it too, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it makes sure you feel good. What was the what
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was the gentleman's name when I was going He since
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: passed that lived in the home. He was blind, Michael
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Poet And was he blind and deaf or just just blind?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But he was he had kidney failure. Yeah, he was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. This this guy, I'll never forget him.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: We would go every week and he would be there.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He was blind, so many health issues, and he was
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just the happiest guy. Yeah, he was so happy. Like
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I would sit and talk to him, and I remember thinking, like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes I would get down on my own life, right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: things aren't going my way, right, maybe I'm fighting with
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: my wife or whatever. I don't have money that I want, yes,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And then I would think about him. Look at this guy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: This poor guy can't even see. He's in this home,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: probably no hope of ever leaving. I think he had
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: no family left, right, Well, we did have family, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: he was not he was not going anywhere. He died there, yes,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like and I remember thinking, that's where perspective
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: comes in of life, right, it's the glass half full
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: or half empty, right, put yourself in someone else's shoes.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: This guy, you know, here, I am bitching about my life.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So it was just a really good moment with him.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And he passed when a couple of years ago, it's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: been yeah, it's been five years. So yeah, I'll never
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: forget him. Man, you never forget him.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: There's there's a lot just like him with the same story,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: and they just and that's what the other thing is
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: they have stories, they have time, they have they have
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: their life experiences, and a lot of that's going to
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: just go to the wayside because, like I said, I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: posted something yesterday like material is a money, power, fame,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: all that stuff is pushed to the wayside. Now now
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: it's about connection. They just want to They just want
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: to talk, They just want people to listen. They just
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: want to be seen. And yes I do. It does
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: give me, if anything, it gives me an appreciation for life.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: That life is brief. Life is beautiful, but it's also
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: very brief, and it's it's life is in between the lines.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: It's in the moments that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You don't expect.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: It's like when we talk about the good times, the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: good times are right now. We're sitting here, we're healthy,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: thank God. But this is the good time.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Smith. We're gonna look back.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: On this and it's getting me emotional now because like
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I love my life, and I love the friendships I
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: have with you and and all the other guys and
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: gals that I have. It's just I love my family,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I love it's life is good. Look, I can see,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I can walk. I drove here. I take my hat
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: off to people who drive in traffic every day. It
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: took me an hour and fifteen minutes to get to
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Medford from Able today. But it's but I enjoyed it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I was looking at the I was looking at the foliage.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I was enjoying listening to the show on the way down,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: and I was just I'm alive and I can do something.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: If you are alive today, you can do something. Buy
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: somebody a coffee, but don't wait around for them to say, oh,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: they did it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Just I drive away.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, just know that you just made someone's day,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: put the extra drawll in tip cup, or doing doing
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: something outside yourself, outside your comfort zone.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Get outside.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: That's the hardest thing, right, Going back to the gym,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the hardest thing for us to do was to walk
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in the gym because we were heavy.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I threw a sweatshirt. I would always wear a sweatshirt.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I'm oh my god, Oh my god, god. Okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you said this reminded me. Glad you just
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: brought me here. So I've been telling this story a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: lot recently. I told it like two or three times
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: randomly to people for whatever reason. Yep, but I remember,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget I had just started working out with Zeb,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: maybe a month or so. I was still fat, right,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I was not as fat, but I was still you know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: out of shape. And my big thing was my breasts. Right.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of skin, A lot of my
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: fat goes to my breasts. I actually posted you see
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: this Zeb on my Instagram. Today's the nine year anniversary
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of my boob job. Remember the boob job? Yeah? Remember
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: my wife took care of me and all that stuff. Yeah,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: so today's nine years. I had got a commassia Surgeryah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it's been nine years, but I remember. It was probably
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: like a month after we started working out and I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: got out of work. I went to the gym to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: meet Zeb. I walked into the gym. He was already there.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He was sitting down waiting for me. I walk in,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: walk up to him like I did every day, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: he looked up at me and he goes, why do
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you walk like that? And I'm like, walk like what?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: He goes, You walk with your shoulders slumped in, almost
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like you don't want people to see your stomach or
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: something like you're trying to hide it, you know, And
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I don't know, what are you talking
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: about like look at me, you know, like I don't
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: want people to see this, Like why are you saying that?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And you go, look from this point forward, from this
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: day forward, starting right now, I want you to walk
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: with your shoulders back, and you stood up and you
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: took me and you pulled my shoulders back and you
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: prop my chest out and you put my chin up.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: You go, from now on, I want you to walk
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like this, no matter where you are, what room you're
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: going into the gym, no matter what, with your chin
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: held I and your chest out and your shoulders back,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: because that shows confidence. I don't care if you have
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a six pack or if you have tits, I don't care.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You walk like you do have a six pack. And
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: from that day forward, I'll never forget that that's how
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I walk. And over time I ended up losing had
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the boob, well before that, losing the chest, getting into shit,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and now like it's so it's confidence, it's confidence, it's confidence.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So you were giving me that confidence before I even
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: had any confidence in myself. You know. It's just like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: moments like that you think back and you're right, we're
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: gonna get older, right, and we're gonna look back at
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: these times, these good times. We're doing it right now.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Life is about memories. It's about cherishing those memories. Yep.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And we've had a lot.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: We've had a lot.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, real quick, I'm wanna get to one or
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: two more things.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Your social media, yes, so you started the tick. You
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: had Instagram had no really no movement. You had a TikTok.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: The TikTok a few years ago kind of blew up. Right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: You had like one hundred thousand follower.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one hundred and almost one hundred and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: thirty now.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So it was growing, growing, growing, and I remember like
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: watching it. I really wasn't on TikTok, but you were
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: doing crap. You should know. With Ray. Ray is the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kid you work with. I work with Ray. Yep, He's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: are great because you guys offset each other.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Yeah, he's young and young and ambitious and
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm older, so I and I guide that ambition.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a good kid. So you work for
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the wastewater department, so you're like in the ship pipes
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: pretty much.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Basically, I'm a sewer jumper.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You're a sewer jumper. Yeah, so a lot of your
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: content is around what you do there, so you had
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: ray you do crap. You should know the TikTok takes off, okay,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but then it's stalled. I remember you saying that sold
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: after one hundred thousand in and around there, right, So
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: then ZEB kept going on or whatever, and then I'll
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: never forget your Instagram. You would talk to me about
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it and you'd say, like, how do you grow your Instagram?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Like Instagram, I get no movement, and I'm like, I
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: don't know, don't I work on the radio. I have
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: like ten thousand followers. And then one day I'll never
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: forget this. I happened to put on it go on Instagram,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and you had thirty thousand followers, and I thought you
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: bought them. No, I was. I was convinced, and I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: showed at the gym and I go, what the fuck
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is this? And you're like, dude, I don't know. I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: did like one or two videos and it's just exploded,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and it has sense exploded. Now you have eighty thousand followers. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So what video was it that sent? Do you remember?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: There was one, the one with and I think I
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: just reposted it. It was the one with We're in
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the I'm looking for the drain in the I'm in
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I'm in Hip Hip Hip high Water with waiters on
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: and Ray is yelling at me trying to find the drain,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: and he's recording me, and I'm like, and so I
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: come over and I shake.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The tree or whatever.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So that is you know, I played it up a
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: little bit, but I was frustrated. We're trying to find
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: We're trying to find the drain for this thing, and.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Playing it up.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: You have to write, this is the since I watched
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: my first oscars.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be an actors.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was just like, so he played up, Yeah,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: and it came over, but it was but that genuine
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: frustration trying to find this thing was there and definitely
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: fueling it. But yeah, and uh, from that, I just
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: reposted it and and it just went and the people
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: started to attach themselves to the cardigan and waiting, waiting patiently,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: like dming me or messaging me, you can't wait for
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: next Sunday, you can't wait. Thank You've helped me through
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I this, you know, this reminded me to come back
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: and you know, hone in on what's really important and
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: that's what it is. So now instead of what what
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I thought was going to take off was the CYSK.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Now it's more of the Lord's work stuff that I
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: do and going to the.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Nursing home andysk is crap. You should know, crap you shouldn't.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: We'll get fun facts every day, Just.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Get fun useless facts like you know a giraffe can
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: clean its own ear with its tongue, Like you don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: need to know that, or you know.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: They're out there, I don't.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I love the facts. Yeah, they're great.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: They they they got me my foundation of a few
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: thousand followers. And then but the cardigans. People want to
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: see people doing good and what I want people to
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: do is do good themselves as well, right, And that's
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the that's the whole message hopefully they take from my
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: social media. You know, I'm trying to unplug them for
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: two minutes of the day that you know, it's not
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that bad. Even though the world is in chaos. It
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: starts with me, It starts with you, It starts with
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: everybody listening. It just starts with you. It's making one
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: right decision at a time.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And that's that's where that's how we're going to change
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the world. That's how we're going to be better. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: it all encompasses love. You have to love, yeah, and
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that's it. That's true power, it's true.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But I and I think also, you know, with your
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: social media, no matter what it is, if it's you know, crap,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you should know Lord's work cardigans. I think people just
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: like seeing you. You know, you're really good and you're genuine,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and I think people can see that. And that's the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: point I wanted to convey in this, is that the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: person you're seeing, besides like when you do like the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning when you run up like obviously with the thing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious you're putting on for that, you know, but
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: all the other stuff is genuinely just who you are.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You've always been that guy. And I think I don't
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: need it doesn't need to be stated. I think people
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: can see that, they can see that you're just genuine.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You're Zeb.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I always make a joke about Zeb that if the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: world goes to shit and like the end of the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: world comes, I'm gonna go to Zeb's house, you know
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: what I mean, because I feel like Zeb will protect
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: me and guide us you know, I'll tell this real
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: story real quick. There's so many stories I can take
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a tell. But we used to go on this boys,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you know, rafting trip every year or go away every year.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And one year we went all the guys to Socco
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, North Conway, the Socco River. I'm sorry,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: was that is that an Instagram follower that's hitting you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: up on it? Of course it is. I'll wrap it
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: up very so. So we went up to the Socco
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to raft down to you know that we call that
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the tubing we went to We went tubing.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: It was the Is this the one we had to
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: get in the wall? Yes, this is the we went
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: on the relaxed one, the relaxed one.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the water was very cold. We went early
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: in the season, probably in June. You know, it gets
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: warmer later. So we're going down the Socco the guys,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: like six guys, and we come upon these two women
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: that were stuck in a in a in a fallen tree.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So and they were larger women. So you know what
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: happened was they were going down probably not paying attention.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: They might have been drinking, I don't know, and they
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: didn't get out to move out of the way of
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the tree and they went into the tree branches and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: were stuck and could not get out of their tubes.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Which sounds like a funny scene, but it was like serious.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: So we come along and we're like, oh shit. Before
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you know it, Zeb jumps into action into the freezing
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: cold water, fucking freeze these two women. Like we're watching
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: them like what the hell is he doing and ended
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: up getting them out and rescuing them.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah remember that. Yeah, not one thank you. I wasn't
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: looking for the thank you.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But wow, that's not what we were saying earlier. That's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: not why we do it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: We do it, but yeah, that's wow. Yep.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say that about Zeb. You know, you're
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you're a great leader. That's what that you can be
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: in life. You can be a leader or a follower.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: You know. That's why I tried to teach my son
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: is to be a leader. Don't do what everybody else
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: is doing. Don't do things just because they tell you
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to do them, or they's just because they're doing it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Be your own person, yes, you know, but don't be
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: too proud to always learning, always learn, always learn, always learning.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You're building on you. Yeah. Two words that you want
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: to stay away from. Are I know?
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know, I know. See I say, yeah, yes,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you're right.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. So zeb thank
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you for coming on the podcast.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you for your friendship. Tomorrow we're gonna have some legs.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Have some legs. Yeah, I got some hip issues going on.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I'm working with Jenna, my stretch girl on it. Who,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, ask about you. Every time I'll go see.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: You, I'll go, okay, I'll talk to you. When I
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: leave here, we'll talk to John.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You were supposed to make an appointment or you had
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: an appointment and you missed it. I did. Yeah, so
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: she wants to see shame Yeah, shame on you. She
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: wants to see you. So go see Jenna. And then
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I've been had some hip issues. So we'll
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: have to do some some friendly hip friendly exercises. So,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I hope he covered it all with this. No,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you don't need to or blow on me.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Absolutely story. Why would you bring that up? I know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I oh my head, I'm sweating.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Should I tell that one real quick? To end with?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you have to give contact because he just
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: can't leave this.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. So back in the day, we
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: used to squat really heavy, and you know, zech get overheated,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: you get overheated. So when I'm talking, I would have like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you know, four oh five or three eighty five on
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: my back, squatting trying to get five reps. I go
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: down for like three, and zeb would be there like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: he's the best fucking hype man you could ever think of,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Like come on, two more, justin two more, screaming in
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: my ear and he realized, I don't know how that
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: on those last one or two reps. Before I would
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: go down to squat down as he's like, you know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: yelling at me, he would blow on.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: My neck and I'm gonna lit this down.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He just did it one day, and you know what,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: it sounds weird and it sounds gay, honestly, but the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: cold air gave me power. Yeah, and you would blow
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: on it and I would go down and I would
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: get the rep. So then we started doing that is like,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: this is unbelievable.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: At the while I was taking I took my hat
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: off now and then I was yeah, and then I
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: would fan you with my hat the back of Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: But I didn't have the hat that day. Yeah, I
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: don't know where it came from.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I was just like it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I could feel you were just really like overheating him,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: like maybe he just needs cold there.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: It just I just wasn't even thinking.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I just it's okay.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just you came you, you racked
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: the weight and you turn out like you, you know what,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: keep doing it. But Chris, Chris is absolutely not having
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: it because he was there, so he's like, do.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Not, don't ever do that again. I can picture that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: But you know what, Zeb, if I was going to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: be gay with anyone, I'd rather be gay with you. Well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: thank you everybody. I hope this podcast was good. And
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: you can follow zeb on Instagram at zeb Days and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: there is a po box on your profile if you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: want to donate Cardigans only car you use panties?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: No please, I'm not a salvation no.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: No. Girls do have our fans of you, so you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: might get some used panties. I don't know what goes
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: on there. I don't know, but Cardigan's only, Cardigan's Only. Alright,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: love you, Zebright, love you too, all right, everybody, We'll
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: talk tomorrow.