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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking, the deep Dive.
- 0:02This is where we take materials you've shared, articles, notes,
- 0:05maybe even your own research and really dig into them.
- 0:08We try to pull out the key ideas, give you a focused
- 0:11discussion, sort of a quick path to understanding the core
- 0:14concepts clearly. And today, well, we're diving
- 0:17into what it really means for churches, for us to carry out
- 0:20God's plan, spreading the gospel, establishing his Kingdom
- 0:23right here, right now. We've got some great sources
- 0:26here, perspectives on mission, strategy, what God's Kingdom
- 0:29actually is, and critically, the local church's role in it all.
- 0:33Yeah. And as we get started, it's
- 0:36maybe helpful to think about a foundational truth.
- 0:38It shapes how we approach, well, everything in the Christian
- 0:41life, including service and missions, and it has to do with
- 0:43how we understand trials. Trials usually, we think,
- 0:46suffering hardship. Exactly.
- 0:47Our minds go straight there. And of course, suffering is a
- 0:51trial, a tough one. Scripture is clear on that.
- 0:53But there's another kind of test mentioned, one that might reveal
- 0:57even more about our hearts. It's Proverbs 27.21.
- 1:00It says the crucibles is for silver and the furnace is for
- 1:03gold, and a man is tested by his praise.
- 1:06Tested by praise, that's unexpected.
- 1:08Not adversity, but affirmation. It hits different, doesn't it?
- 1:12The idea is that handling godly encouragement or seeing some
- 1:16visible success without getting puffed up or sidetracked, that's
- 1:20actually a really advanced test. You know, think about it.
- 1:22Someone might labor faithfully for years, get very little
- 1:25recognition down here, but they'll shine on the last day
- 1:27because they weren't distracted. But for those who do get praise
- 1:30from family, the aggregation, maybe wider circles, it's a real
- 1:34temptation, a lure almost. OK, so how does that connect
- 1:37directly to missions? Where's the danger there?
- 1:39Well, in missions, there's this natural pull towards valuing
- 1:44what looks successful right away.
- 1:45Big numbers, fast growth, things that get noticed things.
- 1:48You can put in a newsletter that sound impressive.
- 1:50Precisely reports of mass conversions.
- 1:53A church plant that explodes overnight.
- 1:55That stuff draws attention, commendation, often more
- 1:58funding. But the Proverbs insight forces
- 2:00us to ask, does that praise make us complacent?
- 2:04Does it make a subtly shift our focus from?
- 2:06What God values to what gets applause.
- 2:09Do we start prioritizing, say, quick decisions over deep
- 2:12discipleship or impressive buildings over spiritually
- 2:15mature local leaders? The very success we celebrate
- 2:18can kind of pull us off course from God's long term plan and
- 2:23His specific ways of working. It's a test of humility really.
- 2:26Are we seeking His glory or ours?
- 2:28Now the good news, the absolute bedrock, is that God's plan will
- 2:31succeed. Revelation 5 and seven make that
- 2:32crystal clear. Jesus's Commission power by the
- 2:35Spirit will bear fruit. Isaiah 55 guarantees His word
- 2:38won't return empty. So the outcome isn't in doubt.
- 2:40Not at all. The real question for us, then,
- 2:43is how do we participate faithfully in that guaranteed
- 2:45victory? How do we align our efforts with
- 2:47his ways, even when they seem slow or small by worldly
- 2:50standards? That really sets the stage well,
- 2:53thinking about faithfulness over flashiness, which leads us into
- 2:57the first big piece of counsel from our sources.
- 2:59For churches wanting to be faithful stewards, we need to
- 3:04patiently question the norms, the popular ways of doing
- 3:08things. This isn't about being negative
- 3:10or cynical, is it? No, not at all.
- 3:13It's about discernment, Careful, prayerful thinking.
- 3:16There's that saying, you know, that half truths presented as
- 3:19the whole truth can actually be harder to deal with than
- 3:22outright lies. Right, because a blatant
- 3:25falsehood is easy to reject, but something that's partly true.
- 3:28Exactly. It sounds plausible.
- 3:30It has that ring of truth. John Owen, the Puritan
- 3:32theologian, had the striking way of putting it.
- 3:34He said something like I would rather meet 100 devils roaring
- 3:37than one smiling in. Wow, so the subtle danger is
- 3:41greater than the obvious attack? Owen understood that the most
- 3:43dangerous opposition might not look like opposition at all.
- 3:46It might look agreeable, even helpful, in missions.
- 3:49This means we need to look closely at strategies that sound
- 3:52good, maybe focus on, say, social action or community
- 3:55development, which are good things in themselves.
- 3:58But do they subtly shift the focus away from clear gospel
- 4:02proclamation or away from the primary goal of planting healthy
- 4:06local churches? It's not that the humanitarian
- 4:09work is wrong, but it becomes a kind of smiling devil if it
- 4:12quietly pushes aside the core mission.
- 4:15OK. Can you give a specific example
- 4:17of this kind of half truth we might see in missions talk
- 4:19today? Sure.
- 4:20A really common one is the phrase making disciples.
- 4:23It's biblical, obviously, central to the Great Commission,
- 4:26no question. But sometimes you hear it used
- 4:29in a way that seems to separate it from, or maybe even pitted
- 4:33against, the goal of planting solid churches.
- 4:36How so? Aren't they connected?
- 4:37They absolutely should be, but look at the New Testament
- 4:40pattern. What did the apostles do after
- 4:42they heard the Great Commission? They went out and planted
- 4:44churches. Axe is full of it.
- 4:46Their letters assume it. They weren't just aiming for
- 4:48individual decisions. You know, scattered believers.
- 4:51They were building identifiable local communities of faith.
- 4:54Places where these new believers could actually belong, grow, be
- 4:58taught. Exactly.
- 4:59They need that structure, that fellowship, accountability,
- 5:02worship together. Paul's work shows this pattern
- 5:05clearly. Yes, he preached where Christ
- 5:07wasn't named, like in Romans 15. Breaking new ground.
- 5:11But he also made a point of going back to check on the
- 5:12church, as he'd already planted. Remember Acts 15, he says to
- 5:15Barnabas. Essentially, let's go back and
- 5:17see how the brothers are doing in all those towns where we
- 5:19preached. So ensuring they were healthy
- 5:21and enduring, yes. He longed to see lasting
- 5:24witnesses, established churches that would survive, thrive and
- 5:28keep the gospel going. The church itself functioning
- 5:31biblically, is the long term plan, not just a temporary
- 5:34project. That focus on the local church
- 5:37as the enduring structure ties right into the next point, the
- 5:41need to define our terms clearly.
- 5:43This sounds basic Maybe, but it seems crucial if we're going to
- 5:46work together effectively. Oh, it's huge and often
- 5:49overlooked. We throw around words like
- 5:51gospel, Christian Church, missions, conversion, even
- 5:55elder. Assuming we all mean the same
- 5:56thing. Right.
- 5:58And often we don't. There's that story, maybe
- 6:01apocryphal, but it makes the point about a group of really
- 6:04prominent Christian leaders, seminary presidents, pastors,
- 6:07heads of denominations. Someone challenged them just
- 6:10define the gospel and apparently they struggle for a good 5
- 6:13minutes to agree on a simple definition.
- 6:15Wow. Really.
- 6:16Yeah. One account said it felt like
- 6:18the Tower of Babel, everyone using the same word but not
- 6:20speaking the same language. Was the gospel social justice,
- 6:24personal blessing, moral rules? Or was it Christ, death and
- 6:28resurrection for sin? If leaders struggle, imagine the
- 6:31confusion elsewhere. So taking the time to define
- 6:34terms isn't just academic. What's the practical payoff?
- 6:37It prevents massive confusion, for one.
- 6:39It helps us actually collaborate instead of talking past each
- 6:42other. Yeah, it foes hidden
- 6:43disagreements out into the open where they can be dealt with.
- 6:47And it pushes back against this idea, sometimes called
- 6:49essentialism. Essentialism.
- 6:51What's that? It's the idea that basically all
- 6:54that matters is what's absolutely essential for
- 6:56salvation, and everything else is kind of negotiable.
- 7:00Charles Van Engen wrote something reflecting this view
- 7:02back in 96. Saying something like confessing
- 7:05Jesus is Lord is all there is. Nothing else really matters.
- 7:08Everything else is negotiable. That sounds potentially
- 7:12dangerous, like it could minimize a lot of biblical
- 7:15teaching. That's exactly the risk.
- 7:17It shrinks the scope of God's revealed truth.
- 7:19Things like how we understand baptism or the Lord's Supper,
- 7:23church discipline, who should lead the church, how churches
- 7:27should relate to each other. These might not be a essential
- 7:29for salvation in the narrowest sense, but are they really
- 7:33negotiable if we want healthy biblical churches?
- 7:35Probably not. They have real consequences for
- 7:37how we function together. Absolutely.
- 7:39Think about Paul and Barnabas disagreeing over John Mark.
- 7:43That wasn't about Mark's salvation, but it was serious
- 7:46enough for them to split ways over mission strategy and
- 7:49character assessment. It mattered.
- 7:51This kind of narrow essentialism.
- 7:53It's like trying to live on an island that keeps getting
- 7:55smaller and smaller until there's nothing left.
- 7:58We need to embrace all that God has revealed, understanding that
- 8:02even if something isn't required for a person to be saved, it
- 8:05might be absolutely required for us to have functioning church
- 8:08together or to run a mission faithfully.
- 8:10These things aren't trivial matters.
- 8:12That clarity is so important for working together.
- 8:14Well, OK, moving on to the third council, making a clear
- 8:19distinction between long term and short term mission work.
- 8:22Now our church does short term trips, like a recent one to
- 8:25Brazil. They seem valuable.
- 8:27People get exposed, encourage specific tasks get done.
- 8:30And they absolutely can be valuable.
- 8:31Short term trips can encourage long term workers, bring needed
- 8:34skills for a project, give people a taste of cross cultural
- 8:38work, maybe even spark emissions calling.
- 8:40They have a place. But we need to be clear, efforts
- 8:43that don't have the ultimate aim, the structure to result in
- 8:47sound, healthy, reproducing churches, those are generally
- 8:51supplementary. They're helpful, but they aren't
- 8:53the main event, so to speak. The work that truly leads to
- 8:56healthy multiplying churches that needs to be understood as
- 8:59the primary foundational mission goal.
- 9:02The key difference is permanence, self-sustaining
- 9:05life. So short term supports the long
- 9:07term goal ideally. Ideally, yes.
- 9:10The ultimate aim based on the New Testament isn't just
- 9:13projects or visits. It's establishing local bodies
- 9:16of believers, churches that will carry on the work themselves
- 9:19long after the initial team leaves.
- 9:21Because fundamentally, God's plan for evangelism is the local
- 9:24church. That's his chosen instrument.
- 9:27Our hope, our aim should be to see churches planted that are so
- 9:30biblically grounded, so spiritually alive, they'll
- 9:33endure right up until Christ returns.
- 9:34Not just temporary structures. Exactly.
- 9:37Human strategies often feel like fads.
- 9:39You know they come and go. But the local church built
- 9:43faithfully on God's Word is his enduring plan, and resources are
- 9:48emerging to help us think this through.
- 9:50That 9 Mark series on Church Centered missions, for example,
- 9:54books like Church Centered Missions Itself or The Church
- 9:57Among the Unreached. They're pushing us to keep the
- 9:59church central in our mission thinking.
- 10:02That focus on the enduring nature of the church, the local
- 10:04church, leads us to the fourth point, really listening to the
- 10:08full scope of the Great Commission.
- 10:10We often focus on go make disciples of all nations, which
- 10:14is vital obviously, but Matthew 28 has other alls doesn't.
- 10:18It it certainly does, and they're just as crucial.
- 10:20First, Jesus starts by saying all authority in heaven and on
- 10:23earth has been given to me. Right, the basis for the whole
- 10:26command. Exactly.
- 10:27We don't go in our own strength or wisdom.
- 10:28We go under His authority, empowered by Him.
- 10:31Our mission depends entirely on His sovereign rule.
- 10:34Then there's the command teaching them to observe all
- 10:37that I have commanded you observe.
- 10:38All not just know about it, but actually do it.
- 10:41Yes, that's a much higher bar than just intellectual agreement
- 10:45or even initial conversion. It implies comprehensive
- 10:48obedience, putting Christ's teachings into practice in every
- 10:51part of life. It means discipleship isn't just
- 10:54a six week course. It's a lifelong process within
- 10:57the church, learning to live out everything Christ taught.
- 11:00So our mission work needs to aim for that kind of deep, practical
- 11:04obedience, not just decisions. That's the goal, building up
- 11:08believers and sound doctrine and godly living, forming
- 11:11communities that actually strive to obey Christ together, that
- 11:15leads to resilience, to maturity.
- 11:17And then there's the final all the promise.
- 11:19And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age.
- 11:22Always to the end of the age that speaks to permanence again.
- 11:25It really does. It implies the work isn't meant
- 11:27to be temporary. We should be aiming to establish
- 11:29churches that will last, that will endure until Jesus returns.
- 11:33The quality of the work matters. Are we building something solid,
- 11:36well built, designed to stand, or just a temporary structure
- 11:39that might look impressive for a bit but won't last?
- 11:42Compared to human strategies that are often fads.
- 11:45Right, those come and go. God's plan is the local church.
- 11:49And remember what Jesus said in John 13, that the world will
- 11:53know we are his disciples by our love for one another.
- 11:57The internal life of the Church as a witness.
- 11:59Yes, that unity, that care, that mutual forgiveness within the
- 12:02church community. That's God's chosen method for
- 12:05showing Christ to the world. Our distinct community life is
- 12:10meant to be inherently evangelistic.
- 12:12Which brings us right to the next key idea.
- 12:14The church must be a distinct witness.
- 12:16Its health depends on keeping the line clear between Christian
- 12:19and non Christian. It's absolutely critical.
- 12:21The sources emphasize this strongly.
- 12:23The church's health is tied to how clearly it teaches and
- 12:26maintains the difference between those who are in Christ and
- 12:29those were not. Now does that mean non
- 12:31Christians aren't welcome? Not at all.
- 12:33We absolutely want non Christians to come to hear the
- 12:36gospel. There's no better place for
- 12:38them. But they need to understand they
- 12:40don't truly belong to the church fellowship in the full sense
- 12:44unless they repent and trust in Christ.
- 12:47If someone can attend regularly, maybe even get involved in
- 12:50activities, and feel completely comfortable and included without
- 12:53that fundamental change of heart, well, the Church has
- 12:56failed in a basic way. Failed to show the necessity of
- 12:58conversion. Yes, and failed to uphold the
- 13:01churches unique identity. It's not just a social club or a
- 13:04group for nice moral people. Its purpose is higher.
- 13:07Much higher. It's about seeing people
- 13:09reconciled to God, forgiven, restored to his image.
- 13:13That's the core mission. So anything we do, even with
- 13:15good intentions, that blurs that line, that lessens the
- 13:18distinction between the church and the world.
- 13:19He's sexually dangerous to the mission itself.
- 13:21How might that happen practically?
- 13:23Oh, various ways. Lowering membership standards so
- 13:26anyone can join easily. Putting unconverted people in
- 13:29leadership positions. Shying away from hard truths and
- 13:33preaching to avoid offense. Making the church look and feel
- 13:36just like any other secular organization.
- 13:39One writer put it very strongly, calling the recognition of
- 13:42unconverted persons as members of a Christian Church an evil of
- 13:46no ordinary magnitude. Strong words.
- 13:49Because, he argued, it obliterates the distinction
- 13:52between the church and the world.
- 13:53It acts like a Trojan horse, undermining the church from
- 13:56within. A church filled with
- 13:58unregenerate members will inevitably compromise its
- 14:01beliefs, its mission, its standards.
- 14:03This is why there's also concern about things like mass
- 14:06spontaneous baptisms. If they happen without careful
- 14:08discipleship or ensuring people truly understand repentance and
- 14:11faith, it risks blurring that vital distinction at undermining
- 14:15the church's clear witness. We need to distinguish God's
- 14:18unique works like Pentecost for the regular, thoughtful patterns
- 14:21he gives the church to follow. Maintaining that distinction is
- 14:25clearly vital. Yeah, let's talk practical
- 14:27stewardship. The 5th Council effectively
- 14:30funding and leading missions summed up as funding the good
- 14:34stuff. This seems like a call for
- 14:37pastors and elders to get really hands on with missions giving.
- 14:40Absolutely. It's urging them not to just
- 14:42delegate missions to a committee and forget about it.
- 14:45They need to bring the same theological rigor, the same
- 14:49careful discernment they use for sermon prep, to evaluating the
- 14:52mission work the church supports.
- 14:54So not just accepting reports at face value.
- 14:57It means really digging in, asking questions, weighing
- 15:00what's actually being done on the ground, what the specific
- 15:03activities and outcomes are. Is it biblically sound?
- 15:05Is it strategically wise? It's not enough to just say, oh,
- 15:08they're making great sacrifices or they seem like lovely people.
- 15:11Though those things might be true.
- 15:13There needs to be careful vetting church leaders.
- 15:15The elders should be proactively searching out missions that
- 15:19align with biblical priorities like church planting among the
- 15:22unreached and then leading the church to support them
- 15:24generously with money, prayer, focus, and even sending people.
- 15:29It's about intentional investment then.
- 15:30Yes, and the principle is stark. If we want to send, we have to
- 15:34spend. Our budget reflects our
- 15:37priorities. Sending pastors to visit
- 15:39missionaries on the field is also incredibly useful.
- 15:42It's like Paul wanted to go see how the brothers were doing in
- 15:45Acts 15. What does that achieve?
- 15:47It builds relationships, provides encouragement, allows
- 15:50for first hand assessment, gives the pastor concrete things to
- 15:53pray about and share back home. It fosters real partnership.
- 15:57But let's be honest, the bigger challenge for many of us, maybe
- 16:01especially in established churches in the West, is
- 16:03actually spending significant money to send people,
- 16:06particularly to those whole languages that have never heard
- 16:09the gospel. Romans 10 asks those sharp
- 16:12questions. How will they hear without a
- 16:13preacher? How will they preach unless they
- 16:15are sent? A challenging thought.
- 16:17It is. One speaker mentioned his own
- 16:19church, despite being missions minded for 30 years, hadn't
- 16:23directly sent someone for that kind of frontier, unreached
- 16:26people's work. It highlights a gap many
- 16:28churches need to consider. Thankfully, there are
- 16:31organizations like Radius International specifically
- 16:34focused on training people for that difficult long term work of
- 16:37language acquisition, cultural understanding, and church
- 16:40planting among those who have 0 access to the gospel.
- 16:43They help churches bridge that gap.
- 16:45That leads us toward the end to the 6th and final council,
- 16:48teaching our congregations to value, even treasure, personal
- 16:52obedience, especially the small, seemingly insignificant acts.
- 16:56And this connects to Jesus's parable of the mustard seed.
- 16:59Beautifully, yes, Mark 4. The whole point of that parable
- 17:02is the stunning contrast. Jesus starts with his tiny seed,
- 17:05the smallest of all the seeds on earth, he says, almost
- 17:08invisible, easily overlooked. Insignificant beginnings.
- 17:11Right. But then this tiny seed grows
- 17:15into the largest of all the garden plants, huge branches big
- 17:19enough for birds to nest in. Some ancient writers said it
- 17:21could grow as tall as a man on horseback.
- 17:24The shock wasn't that God's Kingdom would be great.
- 17:26Everyone expected that. The shock was that it could
- 17:29start so small, so apparently unimpressive, like Jesus himself
- 17:34with his small band of followers.
- 17:35So it cuts against our tendency to want big, flashy, immediate
- 17:39results. Exactly.
- 17:40We tend to idolize the big stuff.
- 17:42Mass media impact, political power, academic influence, huge
- 17:45movement. We think God's Kingdom must
- 17:47advance through those channels. But Jesus rejected Satan's offer
- 17:51of immediate world domination, didn't he?
- 17:54He chose the path of sewing the Word, investing in a few
- 17:56disciples, quiet faithfulness. The Kingdom starts small, often
- 18:01hidden, but grows mysteriously and powerfully according to
- 18:03God's plans. So how should that shape our
- 18:05perspective now? It means we're called to hear
- 18:08the future before we see it, to trust God's promises about the
- 18:12kingdom's ultimate triumph even when the present looks messy or
- 18:15slow. And that trust allows us to
- 18:17reinterpret the present in light of the future.
- 18:20We see our current struggles are small acts of obedience, not as
- 18:24futile, but it's part of that mustard seed growth.
- 18:27Every act of faithfulness matters.
- 18:29That reminds me of the story you mentioned about the Gordon
- 18:31family missionaries on Aramongo. Yes, a powerful illustration.
- 18:36George and Ellen Gordon, martyred in 1861, trying to
- 18:39translate the Bible and share the Gospel.
- 18:41A terrible loss. But then George's younger
- 18:43brother James hears the news while studying for ministry.
- 18:46And what does he do? He volunteers to take his
- 18:48brother's place. Immediately he saw it not as an
- 18:52end, but as part of the sewing. And tragically, James was also
- 18:56martyred on Aramongo years later.
- 18:58But the most striking part is their mother's response when she
- 19:00heard about James, her second son, being killed on the same
- 19:03island. What did she say?
- 19:05She quietly said, I wish that I had another boy to send, that
- 19:09the heathen may receive salvation.
- 19:11Wow. That's incredible resolve.
- 19:13It's profound gospel conviction, A willingness to give
- 19:16everything, mirroring her son's willingness to go even to death.
- 19:21That story just perfectly captures it.
- 19:23Small, specific, costly acts of obedience, trusting God's bigger
- 19:28plan and His different timetable, knowing that the seed
- 19:32planted even in suffering will bear fruit for His Kingdom.
- 19:35What a powerful way to think about our own small
- 19:38contributions. As we wrap up this deep dive,
- 19:41maybe take a moment to consider what all this means for you
- 19:44personally. How you participate in God's
- 19:46mission right where you are. Yeah, maybe ask yourself, what
- 19:49might it look like today, this week, for you to truly treasure
- 19:52those small, specific acts of obedience God is calling you to,
- 19:55knowing that each one offered in faith contributes somehow to his
- 19:59vast, unstoppable plan for His Kingdom to fill the earth?
- 20:02We really hope this discussion has brought some clarity and
- 20:04maybe some fresh perspective. Thanks for joining us on
- 20:07Reformed Thinking the Deep Dive. Keep seeking that biblical
- 20:10understanding in every part of your life.