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Hey JP Saxe! · Hey Jonas!

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Well, hello, guys. Here we are. What a week it's been, Kev.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: It's been something. People really... Delete the thread! People have
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: been talking. Yes, they have. Oh, man. It's our first
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  Speaker 1: kind of major viral moment on the podcast. We've had moments.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: But that's something, huh? It's just unfortunate that the New
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: York Giants have banned us from ever coming to any
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  Speaker 1: more games.
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  Speaker 2: Just kidding. How do you feel being a celebrity now?
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: It's so different. My life is so different. Guys, it's
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Halloween in days. What are you going to be doing
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  Speaker 1: for Halloween?
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  Speaker 2: I am going to be with my kiddos. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be in London, fly back. This is kind
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  Speaker 2: of a crazy travel day, but I'm going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be with my kiddos, and then I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get on a plane. I'm going to fly
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  Speaker 2: to New York, and then I'm going to take my
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  Speaker 2: godson and goddaughter trick-or-treating.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. Fantastic. And then I'm going to get on a
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  Speaker 1: plane the next day, and we're going to fly to Milwaukee? Yes. Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going home to L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Trick-or-treating. Big trick-or-treating day. I'm doing a Diwali party. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be— dude, the guest list is stacked. Stacked.
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  Speaker 1: Nick's got— Coming with a new girlfriend. And he's got
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  Speaker 1: a big celeb guest list. Wow, a lot of bigs.
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  Speaker 1: Big guest list. I'm going back for that. Bring your
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  Speaker 1: autograph books. And then I'm going to take Malte Marie
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  Speaker 1: trick-or-treating on the 30th because she and Priyanka are flying
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  Speaker 1: to Australia because Priyanka's starting a new movie.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So she's going to fly on the 31st or 1st?
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  Speaker 1: She flies on the 31st. Fun. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a spooky flight. I bet she said that, didn't she?
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  Speaker 1: She's doing a movie called blue fly with russell crowe
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  Speaker 1: oh oh this is god it's gonna be sick can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for that she's been studying her script because she
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  Speaker 1: plays a uh an international translator cool so she's got
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  Speaker 1: to speak like seven or eight different languages casual she's
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  Speaker 1: incredible she blows me away that's great um anyway i'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna miss them but i get to see them for
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  Speaker 1: two days before they go and then we Come back
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  Speaker 1: on tour and.
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  Speaker 3: Lovely.
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  Speaker 4: It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin, what about you? Very exciting. You know, big day.
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  Speaker 1: Halloween trick-or-treating. We actually... It's your daughter's birthday! It's daughter's birthday!
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: It was just her birthday. But we're going to go
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  Speaker 5: kart racing, which is great. Then we're going trick-or-treating. But
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  Speaker 5: last night, we got, like, mischief night by our oldest daughter.
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  Speaker 5: She was at a sleepover.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw you doing that. It looked like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff to clean up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. It's all biodegradable. So, yes, our house got toilet
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  Speaker 5: papered by our daughter, who lives at the house.
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  Speaker 4: Is she.
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  Speaker 1: Cleaning this up? I did, in fact, say if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to do it, you're going to have to clean
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  Speaker 1: it up. But it was fun.
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  Speaker 5: We had a really good time. We shot off some
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  Speaker 5: confetti cannons and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then on the 31st, we're doing a virtual
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  Speaker 5: concert with a game on Roblox, which is cool. You've
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  Speaker 5: never been more excited about anything we've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: Can I put it this way? I always get on
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  Speaker 1: one tangent. And this is my one tangent.
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  Speaker 5: And I get really anxious and really nervous that I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to push this thing forward and it becomes a
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  Speaker 5: thing because I'm trying to make sure it goes well.
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  Speaker 5: And it becomes like my thing to own. And I
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  Speaker 5: feel pressure for it to go well. And so I
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  Speaker 5: don't mean for it to be a thing I talk
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  Speaker 5: about a lot. But I've taken ownership of it and
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  Speaker 5: I want it to be good. And sometimes that requires
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  Speaker 5: like making sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think you would like us to also be.
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  Speaker 5: No, I just don't want to make you guys be
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  Speaker 5: annoyed by it. The requests that are coming in, knowing
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  Speaker 5: it came more through me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to be amazing, just for
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  Speaker 1: the record. It's going to be great. Roblox, big fans.
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  Speaker 1: Steal the egg. Steal the egg. Steal an egg. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: should be an executive at your company. I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to make my own games. We got Halloween. We got
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest on the pod today. One of
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  Speaker 1: our best friends. One of our very best friends. He's
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  Speaker 1: like a brother to us at this point. On the
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  Speaker 1: Halloween episode. Please welcome J.P. Sachs. J.P. Sachs! J.P. Sachs
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  Speaker 1: on the pod! He's our best.
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  Speaker 4: Friend, J.P. Sachs!
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  Speaker 1: Hi, fam! New album.
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  Speaker 4: Piano guy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, piano guy. Out now.
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  Speaker 4: That was so well edited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that. He's got the soundboard ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: This is impressive. You're on the Halloween episode.
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  Speaker 2: This is an official Halloween episode because technically Halloween's Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any plans?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm doing some shows in Toronto. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: do a theme. We're all going to dress up as
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  Speaker 4: our favorite characters from songs. I will be Piano Man.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. Wearing a piano?
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  Speaker 4: Just the Billy Joel suit.
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  Speaker 1: We went to your album release party last night. I
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  Speaker 1: should say, Joe and I did. Kevin went back to
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  Speaker 1: be with his family, which is the right thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of fun. Great spot. Is that where you're doing
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  Speaker 1: the shows?
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  Speaker 4: That is where I'm doing the shows. Dina's Tavern here
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  Speaker 4: in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. It was a good vibe at the release party.
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  Speaker 1: And so thrilled for you. This is a huge moment. You're...
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: New album is out. Go check it out if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't already. Our history goes back basically a year-ish. A
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  Speaker 1: year and a half.
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  Speaker 4: A year and a bit. A year and a half.
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  Speaker 1: You become like family to us, and we're glad to
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  Speaker 1: have you on the pod. It's long overdue. First time
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  Speaker 1: we ever hung out. We also hung out with your father.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll be here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. Your dad is so cool. So, life update. You've
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  Speaker 1: moved back to Toronto. Or you got a place here. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I have some roots. I've not had a home in
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  Speaker 4: Toronto since I was 17 years old, 18 years old,
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  Speaker 4: when I moved to Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And every time I'd come back to Toronto, I would
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  Speaker 4: stay in hotel rooms because both of my parents had
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  Speaker 4: places that were too small for me to sleep in.
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  Speaker 4: So this is the first time in my life where
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  Speaker 4: I get to come back to Toronto as an adult
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  Speaker 4: and stay in a spot with my dad. And it's
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  Speaker 4: been very sentimental and beautiful, and I'm very grateful for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great city. Well-deserved.
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  Speaker 4: Lots of family moments.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome home.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, y'all feel like family to me, too,
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  Speaker 4: in so many different ways. Even this album that I
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  Speaker 4: just put out. would not have been made in the
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  Speaker 4: way I made it if it had not been meeting
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  Speaker 4: the three of you and making music with you because
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  Speaker 4: I really tried to emulate the way we made music
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  Speaker 4: at our first camp in New York in the making
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  Speaker 4: of this album.
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  Speaker 1: The September camp. The September camp.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What a great camp. Which a lot of music that
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  Speaker 1: we're putting on our new album came out of.
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  Speaker 5: First, for people that are listening or watching a writing camp,
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  Speaker 5: if they don't know, is when we would go to
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  Speaker 5: a special spot and have a studio and multiple writers
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  Speaker 5: all at one time, all writing, working towards a project.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of songs came out of it for your project.
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  Speaker 1: For, yeah, Sunday Best.
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  Speaker 5: Sunday Best, a lot of Jonas Brothers songs, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of Joe Jonas songs, D & C songs.
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  Speaker 1: I love the writing camp style because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the momentum and the volume at which everyone's creating is
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  Speaker 1: really accelerating. It is efficient. And there's nothing else that
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be doing or that you should be doing.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, like, if you're just going for a
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  Speaker 1: sort of 9 to 5 style session, you're like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to go home and go to dinner. When we
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: were doing that camp, which I thought was super fun,
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  Speaker 1: it just went till 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. every night,
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  Speaker 1: and then it just became a listening session party. It
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  Speaker 1: was so fun. That studio was like magic. We were
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  Speaker 1: talking about it today, because there is.
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  Speaker 2: A song on your album that we wrote together, which
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  Speaker 2: very kindly you asked, hey, can I put this song
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  Speaker 2: on my album?
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's been an early fan favorite, too. I think I've
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: gotten the most DMs about Happy For You.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's cool.
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  Speaker 4: The one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love that song. I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 2: And we wrote it during that New York writing camp,
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  Speaker 2: but that's about the studio special. It's the Lower East Side,
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  Speaker 2: but there's, we can, we'll show pictures here. Like we
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: were saying today, studios usually are like windowless and you
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: can kind of depressing. But that studio had windows everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So nice. It was gorgeous.
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  Speaker 4: I felt deeply alive and so inspired. And there were
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  Speaker 4: so many songs happening every day and it was just.
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  Speaker 5: The rooftop access, too, which was great to have that
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  Speaker 5: rooftop that we all got to hang in. But I
• 7:46
  Speaker 5: remember the last night we were all there, it was
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  Speaker 5: kind of magical. Everyone just sat around in the main
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  Speaker 5: Studio A, I guess, and just listened to everything that
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  Speaker 5: was created in that week.
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  Speaker 1: Song, show, and tell. Song, show, and tell.
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  Speaker 5: And it was, it felt like 1970. You know, like
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  Speaker 5: it felt different.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to a few writing camps, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: version of that that has happened at each one of
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  Speaker 1: those camps.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I will say in the past, though, at previous camps,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to name names, there was definitely
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  Speaker 1: a competitive vibe. People would listen to a song and
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: it's going like, this song's better. Exactly. I didn't feel that.
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  Speaker 1: Got him. I didn't feel that with our camp because
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: everyone was just so pumped for everyone writing and creating.
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  Speaker 1: I think we were just inspired to be like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go do another one.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go create.
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  Speaker 2: It's like 40-some songs by the time four days were done.
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  Speaker 4: It was wild and we play a team sport and
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  Speaker 4: i think you guys facilitate an environment that really makes
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: it feel like a team sport i remember on night
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  Speaker 4: one uh we had just written princesses and you had
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: gone to an event to go grab dinner and you
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  Speaker 4: were to come back and i went into the other
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  Speaker 4: room uh where duane and tommy were working and i
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: was like trying to be very discerned just like tactful
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  Speaker 4: but like not trying to step on anyone's toes like
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  Speaker 4: hey can i hear what you're doing like I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to Only if welcome I will totally leave And
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: they're like No no What do you think What do
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  Speaker 4: you think And then that energy I feel like Went
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: into the rest Of the week for me Because we
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  Speaker 4: were all Just trying to make Each other's songs better
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  Speaker 4: And it was so communal And I mean I don't
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  Speaker 4: like this Feeling like something We're doing by ourselves You
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  Speaker 4: guys have that It's.
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  Speaker 5: Really beautiful My favorite song I've ever been a part
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  Speaker 5: of Writing During that week Unrealistic Oh I love that one.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the It's on the new album Which is
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  Speaker 1: coming Yeah. It's my favorite song I've ever been a
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  Speaker 1: part of writing.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. My favorite song I've ever written was also
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  Speaker 1: with JP. Which song? It's not out yet, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to say the name.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it's going to be in a movie, which is
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: also something I can't say the name of the movie,
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  Speaker 2: but we had to re-record the song today, the vocals today.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we were doing today in Toronto. That's
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  Speaker 1: where you went. And then we wrote a song, because...
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  Speaker 1: We had 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Because why would we not?
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  Speaker 1: 30 minutes left. Write a song with JP. That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And we did it. We're like, well, that's $ 4. 59. We
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: got to go. You guys missed a ton of really
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  Speaker 1: exciting stuff on our end.
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  Speaker 4: What happened? Yeah.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I got a facial. Ooh.
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I can tell. I walked in and she was like,
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: have you ever had an electro something facial? Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: love it.
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  Speaker 4: I was like.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell?
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, I think maybe you might want to just
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: switch to the men's signature facial. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. I did it, and it felt fantastic.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: It's got all the stuff moving in my sinuses. How
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: are you feeling? I'm still kind of battling. Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Fighting a good fight. You look good.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Not a lot. Your skin is... Is it glowing? It
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: is pretty nice right now. I appreciate that. Also, this week,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin's kind of gone viral. Delete the thread! I love
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  Speaker 1: the buttons. Well, we'll just quickly catch you up.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin accidentally sent a picture of him exposing himself on
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  Speaker 2: our football giants group thread.
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  Speaker 1: I sent my peen in a picture.
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  Speaker 4: To the football giants group chat?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: To your wife, I assume?
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  Speaker 1: No, no. To the boys. No, no. That was the
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  Speaker 1: intended recipient. No, no.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand. Help.
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  Speaker 5: I was sending a photo of a TV that had
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  Speaker 5: a news announcement about the giants. It's in my bathroom
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  Speaker 5: and the TV's in our bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: The backsplash. is a mirror.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh!
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  Speaker 4: You're so quick. It's amazing. Who responded first?
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot, but it was a lot. The
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  Speaker 1: thing that made it funny was his follow-up text once
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  Speaker 1: he realized. It was, guys, I'm so sorry, was the
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  Speaker 1: first one. Please delete the photo. And then eventually, cuck
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  Speaker 1: my life. Auto-corrected. Which made it worse. And then the
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: final one was delete the thread, which is the funniest
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  Speaker 1: shit I've ever heard. Delete the thread! It's like stop
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  Speaker 1: the count.
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  Speaker 5: So it's been an interesting few days.
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  Speaker 1: I see.
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  Speaker 4: But you've made it something that is working in your favor.
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  Speaker 4: And in that sense, you did something that could.
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  Speaker 1: Have been embarrassing. Keeping the giants in the news. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a question. Keeping the faith. Is that what you're
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: calling the dick pic? It's called giants in the news.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, JP, I think you're like a mastermind when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to like listening to someone and you'll be like,
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  Speaker 2: you said about three hours ago, this thing, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to put it in a song. Now, have you
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: ever had kind of even an accidental text or thing
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  Speaker 2: that might've been a mishap turn into a great song
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  Speaker 2: lyric for yourself?
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  Speaker 4: A mishap text. I have my communicative mind so locked down.
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  Speaker 4: I overthink everything I'm going to say to someone I
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  Speaker 4: love like eight to 17 times. So it very rarely
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: goes awry unless there's like a little bit of alcohol involved.
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  Speaker 4: And that happens when we're writing songs. I find that
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  Speaker 4: you all have this habit of just saying like really
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  Speaker 4: fascinating things. Like sometimes, you know, you're doing it and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you don't. So it's just kind of fun to
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  Speaker 4: be in my position trying to listen real carefully and
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  Speaker 4: think like that's like the thing you said about the
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  Speaker 4: bakery earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was notable to me. What did you say
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  Speaker 1: about the bakery? I want to know. I said, what
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  Speaker 1: did I say?
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  Speaker 4: You said, I ain't going to sugarcoat it. This ain't
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  Speaker 4: a bakery. I kind of love that. You said, this
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  Speaker 4: ain't a bakery. I ain't going to sugarcoat it. And
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  Speaker 4: I was like, it's excellent. That should be kept.
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  Speaker 1: So we're putting it in a song. Did you mean
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  Speaker 1: to say that it was like a line in a
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  Speaker 1: song or you just said that in conversation? We were
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just telling stories.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard. It's hard.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: It's a hard line. You should write for Drake. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of alcohol.
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  Speaker 4: The chartreuse has led to me saying things I shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have said.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Or maybe should have. Maybe should have but was afraid to.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: We decided to provide some chartreuse for the podcast today.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Because we know you love it. Tell us
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: why you love chartreuse so much and the history behind
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: this beverage that is kind of a, it's sort of
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: an anomaly.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: It's quite mystical. I will tell you the story of chartreuse.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I have to just like get off of my chest
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: that I feel like minorly guilty for any bad feelings
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: that any of you are feeling the day after my
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: release party. But it was so deeply sweet of you
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: to celebrate with me.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Also a line we spoke about. I said, be tired
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: for the right people. And what did you say?
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Gotta be sleepy for the right reasons.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Amen. I love this.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Guys. Bars. In 30 minutes. We should wrap up this
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: pod and go write some music.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: We were.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, admittedly, the first few minutes of us having
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: this conversation, I was still trying to find a rhyme
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: for answer.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I could see that. We clock you now. We got
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: you now.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: I got it, though.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: We see you when you're in it. Also good. I
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: love that part of the process. Before we have our
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: sips of structures, for the non-songwriters out there and for
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: the songwriters, one of the things that is most, I think,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: fulfilling or gratifying about the songwriting process is when you
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: know you can beat something and you're that close and
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: you get to solve the math problem. When you finally
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: break it open, and it's happened with you and I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: and the four of us a few times, where you're like,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: it's not right, it's not right, and all of a
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: sudden it just becomes the right thing. Oh, it was
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: always in front of us. Yeah. I mean, the most
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: recent one, I will say, happened on Listen When Sad.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: When we got to the end of the chorus, it
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: was Listen When Sad and then Call Me. on the
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: writing of the CD, that's the note. I was like,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: that's such an interesting, fun way to say that thing.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: I love that song.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Cheers, guys. Thanks, man. Love you. I don't know if
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I've ever actually had char-juice. Love you, love you.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: You're welcome.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It's quite good. Very warm.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Have you never had the char-juice bottles I've been putting
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: on the table at the studios?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I've never had it. Only when tequila ran out. I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: can say this would be great after, like, dinner drink. Like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's good for your belly.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I think often used in aperitif vibes. Okay, my disclaimer,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I don't, I'm not.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Sponsored by Chartreuse.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Sponsored by Chartreuse. I'm not sure the monks are sponsoring anyone.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Nor am I from France, nor am I a monk.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: But there are some French monks.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: The last one, you know, maybe.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: I'm so far from being a monk. Nah, you're pretty
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: damn close. No, I'm so chaotic, Kevin.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: You're deeply connected to your spiritual source. Thank you. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: appreciate that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I do think as songwriters, sometimes people misunderstand our ability
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: to navigate our emotions for our ability to articulate how
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: badly we navigate our emotions.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: That's true. Damn, say that again twice? What?
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I took one sip and I started talking speedy, speedy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I think that our job is not necessarily to have
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: the right answers to go about our lives emotionally. It
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: is just to represent authentically and honestly how we have
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: not necessarily always gotten our emotional lives right sometimes. Not
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: that there is a right or wrong to these things.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: There is a messy and an honest.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: So real.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Which is what we're trying to be in these songs.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Messy and honest and transparent in the chartreuse. Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: It's kind of messy and honest. Made by monks is what.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: We're getting at.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: So the monks.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They don't share the recipe, right? That's the whole deal.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It's a secret. There's like two people that know it?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Three people?
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I think there's two of them that know about it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: This is the lore. It's from 1600s. I think it
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: says on the bottle. I'm not going to read it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I'm going to do my own version of this. Uh,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Hundreds of years, secret recipe. They made it for their prayers.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: They started sharing. They started selling. And now we get
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: to write.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Songs with it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And it's how much alcohol content? Oh, 50, 55%. That's
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: not too crazy. It's not anything small. It's sort of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: like a strong, strong, strong wine.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: If it can bring the monks closer to God, it
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: can bring us closer to each other.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, cheers. Cheers, guys. Let's transition this conversation from the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: monks for a moment.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I read this, and I just got to understand.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: It says it on my little she hears, but it
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: says that you got really good at Jeopardy during COVID.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Wow. I wonder where that was found. I think I'm
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: probably worse.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: This one brought to you by perplexity.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I do like watching Jeopardy. I mean, I feel like
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: even if you get one out of 10 answers right,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: if you get an answer watching Jeopardy before the contestants do,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: there are a few feelings better.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: There are some.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I've tried that with Wheel of Fortune, but my spelling
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: is horrific. I get angry at them when they don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: get it right on Wheel of Fortune. I just yell
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: at them. Jeopardy, it's fun. It resets every few seconds.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love a dork.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Just a big fan of someone who knows a lot
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: about an innocuous thing.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I get it. Likes Jeopardy. Doesn't love. So we've learned that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: We've established that now.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't make it like an identity thing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like the thing I know about you.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I had to ask it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: It's a taste thing more than like a sense of
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: stuff thing.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Joe, do you have any other unimportant questions to ask?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: This is so fun.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Cause usually like in our professional settings, I am asking
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the three of you questions. This is a fun little
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: switch up.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of questions for JP.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's fun to have friends on
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the podcast. I think that's one thing for us, for
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the listener out there, you know, we have, we have guests,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: but I think when we know somebody so well and personally,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and then we really read something on our wonderful cards
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: that our producers help us with, then we're like, I didn't.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Know about this.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I want to turn it back to what you were
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: saying about you have a place with your dad now.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: What has been the biggest thing you've learned about yourself
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: living with your father?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Would you like a fun, cute answer to that or
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: a more involved, emotional answer to that?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I want both.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: We'll go with emotionally involved first. I think for a
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: long time I associated when it came to taking care
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of your parents, getting your mom a place, taking care
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: of your mom, point of pride, point of success. Like this, like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I got my mom a place. For
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: whatever reason, I never applied it to my dad. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: think the reason is sort of an internalized misogyny, like
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: problematic concept of masculinity. That's like no men should be
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: able to take care of themselves. Like it's almost like
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a weird aversion to it being him I was taking
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: care of. But the truth is like my dad was
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the much more present parent. He was the one who
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: took me to all the practices and drove me to
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: school and was like an unbelievably loving father and present parent.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And I had to unlearn whatever, the therapy, the books,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: the reading, the like. self-exploration of what it was that
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: came with some sort of judgment to take care of
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: my dad the way I would never have judged taking
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: care of my mom. So long-winded answer to your question,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: how is it feeling now? It's feeling just wonderful. Like
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I get to kick it with someone who would be
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: my friend if he wasn't my dad because he's just
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: so strange, imperfect, and I I love getting his perspective
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: on the life that we are both living.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful. And the fun whimsical thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I get to like see sort of his lens on
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the world is so dramatically different than mine. So he
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: has like, he has funny takes. Like he, he's a
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: man of the stoop as lately he sits on the
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: stoop and he watches the world go by. And he,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: he has little conversations with people who he gets very
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: excited about the conversations he has with people on the stoop.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Love that. I made a video about him on his stoop.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: So people have, have sought him out on the stoop,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: which he quite likes.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I love that. A stoop dweller. Stoop dweller.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: So cool. Let me ask you, the takes are about
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: what he's seeing or about the world in general?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: It's a little bit of both. He's quite fascinated by
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: all of the things going on in Trinity Bellwoods Park.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And kind of just like watching it. Yeah. As an observer.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: He observes.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He considers.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: He ponders.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And he doesn't do it. I have a bit of
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: a productivity obsession, which has led to wonderful things in
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: my life and occasionally seeps the joy out of things
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: as well. that I would like things to have some
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: sort of forward momentum function in order to lean into them.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And he doesn't have that. He just, he's good at
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: joy for the sake of joy.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Do you people watch?
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I think, I think I do people watch.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Love people watching. Same.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Especially airport people watching. I forget they can see you back.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's, that's problematic. Yeah. Can be, maybe not.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Nick and I found ourselves like I was giving Nick
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a play by play. We were at a, a spot
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: having some beers in New York. And I was like, dude,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I've never done that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Never.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And I looked at Nick and I was like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: couple or the date that's going on behind, but you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: were really fascinated by that. I was like, I was like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this is like total rom-com. Like he, it was bringing
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you a lot of joy. It was. I was like
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to this point about the joy in her eyes on
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this date. And when he got up to use the bathroom,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: she was just like, I was like, I think she
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: just met her husband. we were like seeing people fall
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in love falling in love and it was really beautiful
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: like he went to go and he came back with
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: another run of drinks for them so I couldn't see
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: it so I was getting the play by play from
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Joe the whole time I was just like oh wow
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: imagine they're surprised they're like Joe Jonas is narrating our
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: entire love story to his brother to his brother I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: was like Nick I was like oh man she's like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: he's opening up to her right now about something like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: really deep in his life I was like I was
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: there you were in it I couldn't hear her at
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: them but I'm like I know that conversation he was
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: getting very vulnerable and I was like just like proud
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of him I was like, I don't know this guy,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but I'm proud of him. And she was just like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: her hand was on her chin.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And she just was like, this guy is like, it was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: He's so open.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say this statement and hope that it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the proper usage. Because I want to start using this.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Hope begets hope. Isn't that good? Really good. Begets. We
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: don't say it enough. Begets is a good word. Begets.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Baguettes like baguettes not french baguettes yeah not baguettes.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: But it's a really good word think about it this
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: is my hot baguettes it's like the more you do
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a thing the more it's it's a really beautiful.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah i hope it gets bad it's good hope it
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: gets hope fear but gets fear fear yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: One shard of chart oh my gosh it's gone the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: words are gone that's it so okay we have a
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: bowl of questions.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Here it's the perfect time to answer some questions it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: is It's right here. It's got nothing to do with
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: your life or career.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: It's just thoughts and concerns.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they are, and it relates, but it's weird.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Last thing you said out loud to yourself when you
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: were alone.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. It was oh, no. Cock my life. Oh, no. Perfect.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Cock my life.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: What item would you take with you to the moon?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: A friend. A friend. That's great.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: How many do you want me to do? This is fun.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I think keep going. You're nailing this.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Okay. You have to spend 24 hours handcuffed to one celebrity.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Who would make the day the least unbearable? Can I
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: have three hands and three handcuffs?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's talking about us.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Perfect. Lovely.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Let's do one more.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Someone offers you $ 100, 000 to give up your phone for
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: a year. Could you do it? Obviously.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: If I could exist fully, if I would be supported,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I would give up my phone for a year for free.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But thank you for the $ 100, 000. Wow.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, we have a voicemail. Speaking of phones. Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: we have a voicemail next. People call in and ask
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: us advice, things that we are not professionals on. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's advice, sometimes it's just thoughts.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: All right, guys.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's our favorite part of the podcast. What's that? The
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: hotline has been absolutely blowing up. It's on fire. People
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: asking lots of exciting questions and reading advice on things.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And this one in particular is presented by our friends
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• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And FYI, guys, every time you leave a voicemail, you're
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles to see our show at the Hollywood Bowl.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Thanks to Hyundai, we will fly you in, put you
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: up in a hotel, box seats at our show at
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: the Hollywood Bowl.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Burn It Up Tour all over again.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Hi, guys.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I need a little bit of advice. I'm navigating a
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: difficult conversation with my childhood best friend. She's been seeing
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: this guy who's 18 years older than her. They've been
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: together almost three years now. She's been very vocal with
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: him about wanting to settle down, maybe get a place together,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: have a family, but because he's already been divorced and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: has two teenagers, he's very hot and cold on the
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: subject altogether. Lately, she's been venting about it. She's obviously
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: frustrated and doesn't want to be the one making all
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the sacrifices. But she stays, I think, because of a
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: long string of bad past relationships. So I've kind of
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: hit a wall. I don't really know what else to
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: tell her besides, you know, don't settle if it doesn't
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: feel good. I think it's totally fine for people to
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: admit they're just in a different stage of life. But
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: how would you navigate this conversation and give her better
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: support without overstepping or hurting her feelings um anyways thanks love.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: You guys okay complicated issue kp sax thoughts.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Right to me on this right to you uh people
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: can be wonderful humans and they can also not love
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: you in the way that you deserve and those are
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: two separate things to consider so this man in this
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: woman's life might be wonderful. And all of those things
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: are true. And I'm sure all of the reasons that
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: she cares about him are valid and important and worth considering.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Now that does not mean he's loving her in a
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: way that she deserves or that is right. And she
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: deserves both of those things. She deserves someone that she
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: loves and someone who loves her in a way that
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: she loves. Wow. And it's very, it's very hard to
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: choose something that isn't actively choosing you. And it doesn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: sound like he's actively choosing her in the way that
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: she wants. And that's, really hard. So I'm not sure
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that she can tell her friend what to do, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: she can certainly support her friend through a difficult thing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: And hopefully she'll arrive at a decision that is showing
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: herself love.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's phenomenal advice. Sometimes as a friend of
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a person that you're seeing go through a situation, the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: best advice sometimes is to say nothing, let them live
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: their life and experience the thing, the good, the bad,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the ugly, and be there to support them after they've
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: gone through the journey that they have to go on.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: In this case, I think the friend is committed. She
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: wants to be with this guy. She's going to. It
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. All the things you just said are true.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But as a friend, you're not going to be able
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to tell her that. She just has to live it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and figure out afterwards where she's going to receive her
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: healing from. And that's probably going to be from her
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: best friend. And I think also getting advice from too
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: many people can be... It gets wacky. It gets weird.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Everybody will be like, well. But also the thing happens,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: which is always tough when friends start to chime in
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and say like, oh yeah, I really never liked that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: thing about this guy. Then you stay with the person.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: That always lasts. That never lasts well.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I think you're doing a good job, but you just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: got to let her do her thing and I think
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: be supportive.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: The hard part is, as the friend, that you're sitting
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: there through the venting. You're just like, you seem unhappy,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: but you're, you know, like it's that weird, like middle ground.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But to Nick's point, like listen and without fixing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Listen when it's happening. Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Hard to just, hard to just listen and be there
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and not try and fix anything. Cause sometimes your point,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: it like, it, it usually doesn't work and sometimes makes
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: it worse. Even if you have the right idea, you're
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: good at that. You've, you've shown up for me in
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: In similar circumstances.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I wish your friend the best to our, our lovely, uh,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: voicemail caller. Thanks, Hyundai. Thank you, Hyundai. Thanks, Hyundai. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: we have a show to play, I guess.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we do.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: We have to go write a song first. Well, if
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you don't mind signing the wall behind you, JP, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: thank you for being on the pod with us. Congratulations
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: on the album.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Congrats on the album.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It's so good. Guys, go stream, listen to it, buy it,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: wherever you can. And go see him live. Okay, piano gang.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Love you a lot.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Love you.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: JP Sachs.