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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how the four disciplines of execution help leaders turn
- 0:04strategy into action and focus on what truly drives results. Learn how to overcome uncertainty
- 0:09and urgency that block progress, understand why clarity and leverage determine successful outcomes,
- 0:14and explore how accountability and focus sustain long-term performance in any organization.
- 0:19So let's let's let's queue up the four disciplines and what they're actually so four
- 0:32disciplines are four disciplines that are focused on executing executing in a business context
- 0:38in a leadership context. This is obviously what the you know this is the book that you just
- 0:42re-released. Today actually today we're recording it on Tuesday April 20th yeah so congratulations
- 0:51that's exciting it's very exciting so actually so what's the what's the re-release about like if
- 0:59people have already checked out this book what is the re-release and then I actually want to go
- 1:02into some of the more tactical stuff but I'm just curious what's the yeah so the if you're familiar
- 1:07with the four disciplines the the re-release about 30% new content really a lot of focus I'm
- 1:13where to use this approach and where not to use this approach this is not you know vitamin C this
- 1:19is not good for what ails you this is heavy medicine right and and where do leaders apply these
- 1:25disciplines and where not to how do leaders of leaders we go into much more detail on how organizational
- 1:32leaders apply this we do a lot with leaders that are finding themselves managing projects and they're
- 1:38not project managers how do you apply the disciplines to a project go instead of a performance type
- 1:44goal and then finally sustainability a lot of organizations have been at this for almost a
- 1:49decade how do you keep it fresh how do you keep it alive so those are kind of I guess the headlines
- 1:53or the highlights of how of what's new in the second edition and there are there's valid points
- 1:59because I can I can tell you from personal experience the the leaders of leaders point is something
- 2:04that nobody really nobody learns in school it's one of the most difficult things to figure out
- 2:12and then also just the project management piece when again another leader of leaders things when
- 2:18you're managing tasks that if you're in sales and you love selling and you move into sales manager
- 2:24and you move into director sales and you move into VP sales well now you have to manage projects
- 2:28and now and actually that's one of the reasons why some people don't like those executive roles
- 2:31because there's a lot of leaders of leadership type requirements and there's a lot of project
- 2:37management type requirements that is so far from the actual act right yep anyways good good
- 2:44advice I'm glad you said that about leaders of leaders I'm glad that because the one of the
- 2:50co-authors of the book Jim Hueeling and I are actually starting right now we had the same thought
- 2:55you did we're starting right now another work on leading leaders and we don't know if that's
- 3:00the name of the book it's a damn good name there's a whole chapter on this and we we we had to cut
- 3:07this chapter short we had so much on this topic and and we we had to say it's got we said the
- 3:12same thing you did there's not a lot out there there's a lot on leadership in a general sense
- 3:17but in terms of the specific dynamics of when you're a leader and you have to lead another leader
- 3:22that is not at least at least we've not seen a great deal on those unique dynamics so that is
- 3:28something that we're looking at right now it's a good it's a good topic and I know that the audience
- 3:34here some of them everybody here is career focused trying to build something themselves so I would just
- 3:41say if you aren't leading leaders right now regardless of whether or not you're starting a side hustle
- 3:46building something you're an entrepreneur and you want to build something in an organization there
- 3:51will be a point where this will be applicable in your career I mean I'd be today but figure it out
- 3:55so you don't have to go through hell and trial by fire when you're actually living it
- 4:00anyway so let's yeah this will be the reward of success exactly we will be leading leaders that's
- 4:07right that's exactly yeah okay so we're trying to remove ambiguity we're trying to take on
- 4:13tasks that ambiguity so that everything's clear everything is comforting we see the end result we
- 4:18see the vision so first of all how do we do that and then how do we apply say these four
- 4:24principles to executing when we have that clear vision so first how do we get rid of that ambiguity
- 4:28yeah so let's do this let's let's put up sort of two obstacles and then let's maybe walk
- 4:33through the disciplines so the one obstacle is it's not that people we think this but it's not
- 4:40that people necessarily resist change we think people resist change because it looks like
- 4:45they're resisting change a lot what they resist is uncertainty people initiate change quite a bit
- 4:53so it's it's really unfair to say that it's a human dynamic to resist change what people resist
- 4:57is the uncertainty that often comes with change okay so if you said uncertainty is sort of one
- 5:03issue and then the the here's the second issue that gets in the way of execution and it's it's
- 5:10urgency it took us a long time to sort of see this this was hiding in plain sight
- 5:17the any goal that you're trying to achieve any strategic priority anything that's really important
- 5:24will always compete with the day job and we've given the day job a nickname called the whirlwind
- 5:30right so this day job this whirlwind always feels urgent immediate oh I've got to get back to
- 5:35so-and-so oh I promised I might have that done oh I've got to do this oh I've still got seven
- 5:39unanswered emails oh oh oh right and so we're working all day long and you can live in the whirlwind
- 5:46and not move on anything strategic and and here's the other problem in the moment when a human
- 5:52being is confronted with a choice between something that's happening right now or spending energy
- 5:59on something far more important but less urgent the human default does not go to importance the
- 6:04human default goes to urgency this is the great barrier to strategic execution we're not wired for
- 6:11we are wired for immediacy so you think about those two factors this this resistance to uncertainty
- 6:19and this this whirlwind of urgency that we have to execute through so if you just think of those
- 6:25two things and then the what are the what are the four disciplines all right well the first one
- 6:31is called discipline ones called focus on the wildly important and it's a decision that a
- 6:37that a leader or an entrepreneur or a professional person makes when they say I'm going to give
- 6:43something disproportionate energy I'm not gonna ignore doesn't mean I got to ignore everything
- 6:48else everything else can go into whirlwind but something's going to get disproportionate energy
- 6:54and I'm gonna and I'm and not only am I gonna narrow the focus but I'm gonna it's a little bit
- 6:58like focusing a camera I'm gonna bring it into focus I'm gonna give it a starting line I'm gonna
- 7:02give it a finish line I'm gonna give it a deadline and there's a whole science around how you do that
- 7:08in organizational setting and how you do that between levels but that's what the first discipline
- 7:13is all about it the first discipline is all about targeting getting really clear on well let me
- 7:19let me give you a quote um I really like this this this was something that was said to us 20 years ago
- 7:24by the gentleman who's now the president of Chick-fil-A he was VP of operations at the time his name
- 7:30is Tim Tisopolis and he said when I meet with a leader he's got one of the yet one of the planets
- 7:36really good operators right he said when I meet with a leader the first thing I want to know
- 7:42where is that leader putting disproportionate focus this where are they spending like I don't
- 7:48want to know your seven priorities I want to know number one I want to know what's your big bet
- 7:53what you play right now otherwise I know if they don't have that they're on the defensive they're
- 7:59just they're just trying to put out fires right they'll put out fires they just want to get through the
- 8:04week right and he says it really helps me know where a leader's head is and and I think that little
- 8:09statement started to influence the way we use the discipline so so I got discipline one is about
- 8:13what I'm going after discipline two is called act on the lead measures so if discipline one is
- 8:19about the principle of focus discipline two is the principle of leverage it basically says look
- 8:25I'm just I've just identified something that by definition I can't move otherwise I wouldn't
- 8:30have identified I've just deliberately picked this really important thing that's really hard
- 8:36and so if you think about a rock that's too heavy to move yeah and then you picture a lever
- 8:41if you get a full chrome you get a lever under there right and you know what are the characteristics
- 8:46of a lever well a lever unlike the rock you can move it the lever is influenceable and when the
- 8:53lever moves the rock moves so the lever is predictive and so for 20 years we have been our had our
- 8:59heads into this idea of where's the leverage okay so the classic example that everybody gets his
- 9:05weight loss so people know okay if losing weight is the heavy rock I've just not been able to
- 9:12accomplish right diet and exercise really are the lever right I could act I don't always act on
- 9:19them but I can right and they're predictive if I stay with it it works right we don't believe it
- 9:27work but it works right so so it's predictive and influenceable and what we found is that in every
- 9:33field of human endeavor if you can get the targets low enough down to where the work is happening
- 9:39you can find leverage points you can find what we call lead measures now so a lead measure
- 9:46predictive and influenceables not the same as a predictive indicator just one little distinction
- 9:51on this if I was trying to grow corn right and crop production was my wildly important goal that's
- 10:01what we call the targets in discipline one we call them wigs or wildly important goals my
- 10:05wildly important goal or my lag measure right what's crop growth like similar to weight loss
- 10:13a predictive indicator of crop growth would be rainfall right we have we have a lot of rainfall
- 10:19we're gonna have a good crop growth okay well you can't control it okay I'm very good it's got right
- 10:24it's predicted but it ain't influenceable right lead measures are not predictive indicators lead
- 10:28measures are true leverage they're influenceable and they're predictive all right so so getting
- 10:33so you might have an organization with eight nine different teams each team we we really
- 10:38limit you to one wildly important goal per team per workgroup at a time this is what we found
- 10:45people can handle the day job plus one right so they got one wig that team has been very involved
- 10:50in creating the lead measures discipline three now it's called um keep a compelling scoreboard
- 10:57and it's really about for me it's about throwing the game on switch like that's that to me that's
- 11:05a that's a tangible it's a binary switch when someone goes all right it's live game on right and I
- 11:13engage and the hypothesis that you've created a discipline one and discipline two doesn't put it
- 11:18into motion but the minute you go game on and for us that's been a scoreboard so we we have an app
- 11:254dx os that we've got over a half a million people on right now utilizing and in very simple terms
- 11:36it's not like it's not like a business scoreboard it's not like a spreadsheet it's not like well
- 11:42like a coach we think of it this way it's not a coach is scoreboard you you need those you have
- 11:46those this is a players scoreboard okay so if you think about the scoreboard at any athletic event
- 11:53it's much more like that than it is the spreadsheet they hand the coach at half time so that's
- 11:57discipline three does the team can we take what we did in disciplines one and two and can we make
- 12:02it go game on and the discipline four is create a cadence of accountability and that is every week
- 12:11right every team that owns a scoreboard each individual making commitments and then reporting the
- 12:17next week like in addition to the 100 things I got to do this week what's the one or two things
- 12:23that are going to ensure we do the lead measures like if my lead measures are diet and exercise
- 12:29right what would a commitment be will do diet and exercise no no no no we know that my commitment
- 12:34might be it's going to rain next week so I'm going to get that gym membership because I hate running
- 12:37in the rain or I'm going to go to Whole Foods because I've got these recipes but I don't have
- 12:43the ingredients right and I've got to right I've got to right want to make sure that I'm not eating
- 12:48junk and that I'm hitting that calorie lead measure so discipline one get the focus discipline two
- 12:53get the leverage discipline three game on and then discipline four if you've ever heard the
- 12:59adage force against leverage that's right that's applying that force so what we found is by doing
- 13:05that we're able to drive activities into an otherwise schedule of urgency and do it in a way
- 13:13that it doesn't feel overwhelming to people where they're like I don't even know where to start
- 13:35you