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- 0:00Emperor Penguins are running out of ice faster than expected.
- 0:04What happens when your entire life depends on ice and that ice disappears
- 0:10before your chicks can survive?
- 0:13That's not a future scenario.
- 0:15That's already happening to Emperor Penguins.
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- 0:32Emperor penguins have one of the most rigid breeding
- 0:35cycles in the animal kingdom.
- 0:36They have courtship, which is during the Antarctic winter; egg
- 0:39laying, which is from May to June; And then males incubate the eggs
- 0:43for about 65 days without feeding.
- 0:47Chicks hatch in the coldest conditions on earth and everything depends on one thing.
- 0:54Stable sea ice lasting eight to nine months.
- 0:58If that timing breaks, the entire reproductive cycle fails.
- 1:02Imagine having that rigid of a reproductive cycle.
- 1:06That is insane.
- 1:07That is crazy to think about you know how you depend on environmental circumstances,
- 1:13the environmental stability, and we are at a time where an environmental
- 1:16stability is that it's lowest.
- 1:18We're seeing changes happen each and every day.
- 1:22Now think about this.
- 1:23You have a male.
- 1:24He does everything he needs to do to court his woman.
- 1:27His court, his mate, he's trying to go in, he is trying to buddy up with her.
- 1:31He is trying to like hang out, you know, they mate for life.
- 1:33So
- 1:34this is the one that he wants for the rest of his life.
- 1:37On the females side, that's the female penguin that wants this male
- 1:40penguin for the rest of their life.
- 1:41They walk together, they go through the whole motions, and
- 1:45they breed and they have an egg.
- 1:47And that incubation period takes a long time.
- 1:50And it all depends on how cold and how warmer things get.
- 1:54But if it gets too warm or if the wind pattern is off or the snow
- 1:59doesn't come, or things don't happen the way they're supposed to happen,
- 2:03or you get more extreme storms, then that can throw off the entire cycle.
- 2:07Think about when you don't feed for that long, 65 days.
- 2:11I go two hours without food and I go crazy.
- 2:14Imagine going 65 days without food.
- 2:17That's an energy cost that is very demanding on the body to just stand
- 2:22there and sit on an egg or make sure an egg does not hit the ice.
- 2:27Imagine what that would do.
- 2:30Compare it to somebody, like a flexible breeding species that
- 2:33will actually have the ability to change and be able to handle change.
- 2:37This is just not gonna go well for this breed, this species.
- 2:42If it fails, everything fails.
- 2:44That's a lot on this poor species.
- 2:47That's a lot on someone an animal, a species that lives.
- 2:51And the freezing cold for most of the year.
- 2:54Emperor penguins just don't need ice.
- 2:56They need fast ice.
- 2:57They need sea ice attached to the continent.
- 2:59So they need the strongest ice.
- 3:02It's not just ice floats.
- 3:04They need the strongest ice just to be on the safe side.
- 3:08And you're probably gonna be like, why do they need that?
- 3:09Because it provides stability for breeding colonies.
- 3:12These are massive breeding colonies.
- 3:14It keeps chicks safe from Ocean predators 'cause the Ocean predators
- 3:17that they face are in the Ocean.
- 3:19Orcas, leopard seals.
- 3:21We went through them the last couple of episodes.
- 3:22If you haven't listened to those, go to the last couple of episodes of a
- 3:25previous two days and you'll be able to hear about orcas and leopard seals.
- 3:29And of course they need stabilized 'cause it lasts long
- 3:31enough for chick development.
- 3:33Recent studies have shown that fast ice is now forming later.
- 3:38And it's breaking up earlier and it's becoming less predictable.
- 3:43That's not a good thing for a species that demands that stability for
- 3:48the environment and for its land.
- 3:50Imagine just kind of like walking around and all of a sudden the
- 3:53land is just gone underneath you.
- 3:55It just collapses.
- 3:56That's really, really bad.
- 3:58And I think when you lose that ice, that rapidly freezes, like that fast ice.
- 4:04That pack ice eventually that's there for life apparently, but not anymore.
- 4:08It starts to decay and it starts to go down.
- 4:11And I think that's really what's happening here and that's what we're seeing a
- 4:15degradation of, and a decrease of.
- 4:17And that's scary.
- 4:18That's really scary.
- 4:19Now, before satellites, we had limited colony monitoring.
- 4:22And I feel like now with the satellites we're starting to see more.
- 4:25And I think there's been some really cool thing.
- 4:27High resolution satellite imagery tracks the colonies near real time.
- 4:31I believe it was Michelle La Rue, Dr. Michelle LaRue on the
- 4:33podcast a number of years ago.
- 4:35She's a great scientist.
- 4:36She now lives in New Zealand.
- 4:37She studies penguin.
- 4:38She studies Antarctic colonies essentially.
- 4:40I don't remember the exact numbers, but I remember from the interview
- 4:43there were about four colonies they believe of emperor penguins that
- 4:46were sitting there in Antarctica.
- 4:47And then they were like, they notice it.
- 4:48Basically, they look at satellite imagery of the scat profiles.
- 4:51So when you have a dense population of emperor penguins, they're
- 4:55gonna poop and they're gonna poop all in and around that area.
- 4:58And that poop stains the ice.
- 4:59And that poop can actually be seen from a satellite in space.
- 5:02That's how much they poop.
- 5:03And so when they looked around, they saw that it's not four colonies.
- 5:07They actually saw 22 very densely circled scat marks, poop marks.
- 5:12And they were able to track that there were actually 22 populations.
- 5:16I don't know.
- 5:16This was a long time ago.
- 5:18This was in the mid 20 teens.
- 5:19I don't know if they're right there anymore.
- 5:21But when you start to have high resolution satellite imagery that's
- 5:25tracking these colonies almost in your real time, depending on when you
- 5:28get the pictures, they can detect whether colonies are failing or not.
- 5:31So failure events that are happening across Antarctica.
- 5:34And so in 2022 to 2024, research showed that the key finds what multiple colonies
- 5:40experienced complete breeding failures.
- 5:43An early ice breakup caused a hundred percent chick mortality
- 5:47in some of those regions.
- 5:48That's how scary we are seeing this change happen.
- 5:53In two years, we saw multiple colonies experience complete breeding failure.
- 5:58In some areas there were a hundred percent chick mortality.
- 6:02I'm saying it twice for a reason.
- 6:04It's not just a gradual decline, it's a sudden system failure.
- 6:09These are not species that can handle change.
- 6:12We already established that.
- 6:14And they're seeing change constantly.
- 6:16And so you look at like 22 colonies and now it's probably less than that.
- 6:21That's a scary thought and it's not gonna get better.
- 6:24How do we save these?
- 6:24I have no idea.
- 6:26We have to stop climate change to save these.
- 6:28This is not something that is going to help these populations.
- 6:32Recent modeling studies showed that up to 90% decline of emperor
- 6:35penguin populations by 2100.
- 6:37That's less than a century away, less than a century away, even
- 6:41under moderate emission scenarios.
- 6:44Why is this happening?
- 6:45Because small changes in ice timing equals massive reproductive loss.
- 6:50Penguins have low ability to relocate quickly.
- 6:54There's not much place to go, folks.
- 6:56It's really just a situation where you have to be where you have to be.
- 6:59The ice is melting around you and you're getting smaller, smaller
- 7:02areas, and these colonies are big.
- 7:04You have more competition for sites, and until these colonies disappear, start
- 7:08disappearing more, that's when you're gonna have a little bit more room.
- 7:10But even then, it's not even gonna be that much room.
- 7:12And then the recovery rates are pretty slow.
- 7:14So that doesn't help either.
- 7:16It just doesn't happen.
- 7:17When you have a species that's long lived, it takes a while
- 7:19for it to reach sexual maturity.
- 7:21You start to get a slowdown in the population recovery.
- 7:25And so when you have a slow down in the population recovery and you have all
- 7:28these changes happen to a species that doesn't like change, you start to see
- 7:32a drastic decline in their population.
- 7:34Now, Antarctica, when you look at the ice and how it's being affected
- 7:37by climate change, Antarctica is experiencing increased Marine heat waves.
- 7:42So that's warmer Ocean temperatures and reduce sea ice extent.
- 7:46So when you have a heat wave, that's where the water is being hot.
- 7:50Not just at the surface, but pretty far down.
- 7:52And then when the ice is at the surface and you have
- 7:54warmer water, it's gonna melt.
- 7:56That's just the way it goes.
- 7:57It melts.
- 7:58And you're not gonna have ice for very long after that.
- 8:01It's really sad.
- 8:02Like people keep talking about how climate change is not that big of a
- 8:06deal, and it bothers me so much because they have no idea what's going on.
- 8:10They have no idea what's going on.
- 8:12In 2022 and 2023, record low Antarctic sea ice levels were observed.
- 8:17And it was directly linked to colony collapse events.
- 8:20That's how bad we are.
- 8:22That's in a situation where we're seeing heat waves really
- 8:25changing the entire planet.
- 8:27We're seeing a hundred degree Fahrenheit sea surface temperature in Florida.
- 8:31We're seeing rapidly increasing intensity of hurricanes in
- 8:35the North American continents.
- 8:37And then of course, we're seeing typhoons and cyclones doing the same thing.
- 8:40Because the water's warmer.
- 8:42And so that difference in pressure that it provides, we get some more intense storms.
- 8:46It's really what it comes down to.
- 8:47And then of course when you have heat that melts ice, you're getting
- 8:50more fresh water in the system.
- 8:52And that disrupts how salt water flows and what's capping the salt
- 8:56water, and how that's gonna affect circulation in the long, long term.
- 9:01It's not good, folks.
- 9:02I don't mean to be depressed.
- 9:03I don't, but this is just frustrating because we're hearing this all the time.
- 9:07And then when you have emperor penguins, which are canaries in
- 9:10the coal mine, essentially they're sentinel species, which means that
- 9:13they signal a broader ecosystem health.
- 9:16If they fail, ice dependent krill systems may also shift.
- 9:20Krill is being massively overfished in Antarctic.
- 9:23We're seeing a change in their population, a decline in their population.
- 9:26But then we also see like, you know, for emperor penguins, like a predator prey
- 9:30dynamics that will change and a southern Ocean stability that will be affected
- 9:34because of climate change and because of this lack of ability to hold populations
- 9:39and to keep stable essentially.
- 9:41And so when we see krill fisheries declining, we're seeing whales decline
- 9:46and we're seeing climate change affect that, it's just, it's a negative loop that
- 9:50we continue to see happening over again.
- 9:53And here's the hard truth.
- 9:54You can't create sea ice and you can't move entire colonies
- 9:58that depend on ice very easily.
- 10:00But you can protect feeding areas.
- 10:02And you can reduce additional stress like fishing and disturbance.
- 10:06And then you can push for climate mitigation.
- 10:09We can do all of these things.
- 10:11That's what we can do.
- 10:12That's what we have that ability to do that by pressuring
- 10:15our governments to change.
- 10:17In 2022, emperor penguins were proposed for protection under the
- 10:20Endangered Species Framework in the US.
- 10:22Emperor penguins.
- 10:24But the protection without climate action has its limits.
- 10:28And even now we're seeing less protection of endangered species.
- 10:31We're seeing less protection of things that are affecting the
- 10:33US and affecting other places.
- 10:35Even in Canada, we're probably gonna start to see changes in that as well.
- 10:38We're seeing changes in how DFO manages things in the environment because
- 10:42of pipelines, because of fossil fuel development and so forth, because
- 10:45the world is changing politically and economically to be frank.
- 10:49And it's all being driven by this lack of science knowledge by this
- 10:55push for greed for money and just lack of scientific understanding of
- 10:59things that can help us in the future.
- 11:01And it's really a lack of intelligence all the way around.
- 11:04And I think it's a scary thought.
- 11:05It really is a scary thought.
- 11:07Now scientists are watching out for certain things.
- 11:09So researchers are focusing on identifying certain climate refugia
- 11:13areas where ice can persist for longer.
- 11:16So areas, whether that's actually gonna be colder or not longer.
- 11:18There may still be areas like that.
- 11:20Scientists are gonna be tracking colony movement.
- 11:22They're gonna be looking at monitoring adaptive behavior.
- 11:24That's gonna be really important.
- 11:26But the key question is, can Emperor penguins adapt fast enough?
- 11:30Cause right now the data suggests that it's not.
- 11:33And I think that's a scary thought.
- 11:35It really is a scary thought, and it's not gonna stop until you and I act, until we
- 11:41start engaging and electing our government representatives, our government officials
- 11:47that will act for climate change, not for big business, not for fossil fuels.
- 11:52Not for chemical companies, not for the companies that will just wanna make money.
- 11:56This is for you who wants to survive, for you who wants to see the world do
- 12:01well and the world be taken care of.
- 12:03When we look at the final kind of thoughts here, emperor penguins
- 12:06are not just losing the habitat.
- 12:07They're losing the timing that makes their survival possible.
- 12:12That's really what it comes down to.
- 12:13And when that timing breaks, the system's gonna break.
- 12:17And it's gonna be an overall break and something that we need to work on to act.
- 12:22Now tomorrow we're gonna be covering ice and glaciers and pack ice and
- 12:26so forth in Antarctica and how it's doing and where we're at.
- 12:29But this is really important.
- 12:30We've covered three different types of species this week.
- 12:33Orcas, leopard seals, as well as emperor penguins.
- 12:36We found there's not a lot of information on these species.
- 12:39The information we do have does not suggest growth.
- 12:42It suggests decline maybe other than the orcas, but it also a
- 12:45lot of lack of understanding.
- 12:47And in a time where we need a lot of environmental understanding.
- 12:49We have the technology and we know what works and we have the solutions
- 12:52and we're just not enacting them.
- 12:53It's a very frustrating time to be someone who is for the Ocean.
- 12:57And I think that's kind of sad.
- 12:58It's frustrating.
- 12:59If you wanna learn more and you want to know more about Antarctica,
- 13:03what it's like to work in Antartica and the work that's being done.
- 13:05I have an interview coming up on Friday.
- 13:06We're talking to Ocean Networks Canada that just went down there
- 13:08this year in February I believe.
- 13:10And they did a bunch of work.
- 13:11They installed some monitoring systems to basically data
- 13:14acquisition systems in Antarctica.
- 13:16We're gonna hear all about what's like to work and the challenges and
- 13:18everything like that that goes into it, and how to work in Antarctica.
- 13:21It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 13:22But this one, I'm sorry that it wasn't like a better episode.
- 13:25I wanted it to be more fun, but just the research that I found is just not fun.
- 13:29It's is not fun in the poles.
- 13:30And the Southern pole is no different than the North Pole, in this case.
- 13:33So, but if you wanna learn more, follow How to Protect the Ocean
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- 13:44the Ocean, is to learn about the Ocean.
- 13:46So thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the How
- 13:49to Protect the Ocean Podcast.
- 13:50I'm your host Andrew Lewin.
- 13:51Have a great day.
- 13:52We'll talk to you tomorrow and happy conservation.