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INTERVIEW: October London Talks New Album, Death Row Records Working With Snoop,'The Rebirth Of Marvin,'+ More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, Everybody's d j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy
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  Speaker 3: we are the Breakfast Club just is on maternity leave.
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  Speaker 3: So Laura La Rose is filling in. And we got
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  Speaker 3: our niece with us today, Nyla.
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  Speaker 2: Big Nyla.
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  Speaker 3: All right, And we got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: We have October London.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome brother. Good morning, sir, Good morning. How do you feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I feel good? Feel good?
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  Speaker 2: Man. Is it hard to put on the double Vestitude
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  Speaker 2: and tie ensemble in.
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  Speaker 1: The morning, Not at all. I actually love it. Fresh
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  Speaker 1: look very fresh, Yeah for sure. Sometimes I sleeping on
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  Speaker 1: the bus.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're signed to death row Yeah with Snoop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now talk about how you got the deal and
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  Speaker 3: how he heard you and how that all came together.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeaheah. So I was actually on my
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  Speaker 1: way to graduating truck driving school truck and school truck
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  Speaker 1: and school. No, I quit right before some times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of trucks. I just don't like how they drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot to it. But I was about
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  Speaker 1: to I didn't. I didn't do it because I end
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  Speaker 1: up linking up with Jazzy Fay. I ended up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: linking up with him through a friend of a friend,
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  Speaker 1: and I got his number and I text him like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I got these records, you know, blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: But I was sending them records. They were rap records,
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  Speaker 1: their records for future, their records for all these other artists.
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  Speaker 2: You were producing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was producing, you know. I was writing
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  Speaker 1: them all. Oh yeah, yeah, putting hooks on him. And
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  Speaker 1: I happened to just kind of sneak in one of
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  Speaker 1: my songs that I did call color Blind that had
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  Speaker 1: that kind of Marvin lane, and I sent it to him.
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  Speaker 1: I just waited, and he hit me back and was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you got some you got some heat, you know, linking
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  Speaker 1: up with somebody. He didn't tell me who it was.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not gonna tell you what it
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  Speaker 1: is or anything like that, but I'm looking over with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: like really important legend in the game. I might play
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  Speaker 1: it for him. I was like, oh, awesome, cool, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's I've been through the Ringer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, whatever, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I kept going back to school all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff as far as trucking and and come. But
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  Speaker 1: we kept, you know, conversation on and off. So that
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  Speaker 1: was like that was like December when I got to
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  Speaker 1: talking to him first. So fast forward to about February
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  Speaker 1: and he hit me up and he was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you remember I told you I was gonna play your
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  Speaker 1: records for someone. I was like yeah. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have him call you or we're gonna call
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  Speaker 1: you together and you can talk to him and he can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tell you what's up. I was like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 1: this was twenty sixteen now, yeah, yeap to sixteen. And
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  Speaker 1: the night before the Super Bowl he hit me up
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  Speaker 1: and was like, yo, I got that person online. Hold
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  Speaker 1: on a second, and he was with him and he
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeoh it's the big homie Snoop dog Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I was like, oh, how did
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  Speaker 1: you feel? I honestly, I was like this, this has
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  Speaker 1: got to be a joke. I'm like, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, nah, this can't be real. And
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  Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was real. And he was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly you out. Me and Jazzy gonna link
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  Speaker 1: up talk about you know how we're gonna do this.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do it together. Said okay, cool, And a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days after that he was like, YOA, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna fly you out around March, so you know, got
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  Speaker 1: there March sixteen, two thou and that was a wrap.
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  Speaker 1: That's when I met him.
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  Speaker 4: But why why just throw away to CEDL dream? We
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  Speaker 4: need a lot more shut up?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: But I mean he was right there.
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  Speaker 1: He was, I was right there, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It just wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't for me at that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna pass up opportunity to.
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  Speaker 4: I'm asking I guess the question I'm really asking about
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  Speaker 4: it just faith, Like, how does your discernment say, man,
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  Speaker 4: even though I've been doing this for so long and
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  Speaker 4: I'm right there, I'm gonna have faith in this situation
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  Speaker 4: over here to pull come through.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe in God. So I just
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  Speaker 1: kind of was going off for him, and I really
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  Speaker 1: was like, no, this is gonna be messed up. You
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  Speaker 1: need to go stick with this due to nine to five.
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  Speaker 1: It's just gonna be another obstacle. You're not gonna make
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  Speaker 1: it the same thing I've been doing for years. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, I've been oh, it's about to be on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh now, it's not happening. It's about to be on always.
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  Speaker 1: I've done that several times over. So at first I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of skeptical. I was like, man, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go out here, was gonna hear your music. It's gonna say, okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna do one song. It's not gonna go nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking a million things. And it just happened, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it just we got there, me and him click. You know,
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  Speaker 1: me and him both are libras. So we did one song.
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  Speaker 1: He played one beat. He's like, yo, I want you
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  Speaker 1: to hear this track. He played it got it's called
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  Speaker 1: top Down. I think it's out still. And he played
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  Speaker 1: that record and I instantly started, you know, writing to it,
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  Speaker 1: and I had a hook really quick, and he was like, damn, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right. He's like going to the studio and you know,
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  Speaker 1: record it, went in there, recorded it, he put his
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  Speaker 1: verse on there. He's like, all right, let me do
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  Speaker 1: something else. Put it another beat and I did that
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  Speaker 1: one really quick and he was like, okay, So you
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  Speaker 1: got a little work ethic and then me and him
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  Speaker 1: for the next six months, maybe three to six months,
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  Speaker 1: just back and forth working at it. Chose like work
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  Speaker 1: ethic because he was like, okay, you you're for real,
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  Speaker 1: You're free.
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  Speaker 5: How did your family feel about you being like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I was this close, but I'm gonna just go over
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  Speaker 5: here and do this thing because they've been riding aways
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  Speaker 5: with you, right Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been riding and raised with me for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. But they've been really supportive. Family friends, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: been supportive. I don't know how many times I've all
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  Speaker 1: my boy Jamie, but.
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  Speaker 2: They in the business. Though.
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  Speaker 3: Your mom's a singer of your dad.
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  Speaker 1: My dad was. My dad was in the business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my dad was in the business. He toured and you know,
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  Speaker 1: to with Earth Wind and Fire and all that probably
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  Speaker 1: opening up for him something like that, but it never
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  Speaker 1: really reached this level. So he's a static gotcha.
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  Speaker 5: So that's where your soul for like, your household was
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  Speaker 5: full of music.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I hear it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up on before even listening to even rapper,
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  Speaker 1: even Snooper any thing. I was listening to Earth Wind
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  Speaker 1: and Fire. I was listening to confunction. I was just
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  Speaker 1: not you know, so many artists, Frankie Beverly rest in peace.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been listening to old school for a while
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  Speaker 1: and then I started listening to jazz and I started
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  Speaker 1: getting into that more, a little bit of Miles Davis.
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  Speaker 1: So as far as music goes, I'm all.
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  Speaker 2: Across the board.
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  Speaker 6: Now where were you before you got the call to
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  Speaker 6: go to LA Because how does the truck driver connect
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  Speaker 6: with Jassey fay Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was just because my boy
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  Speaker 1: knew somebody that knew something. It was. It was that
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  Speaker 1: whole you gotta know somebody kind of aspect to it. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my boy DeMarco Black called me and was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: come over to the house. I got this contact. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, Cool. I was like, man, I
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  Speaker 1: really don't want to do this. Man, I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to do this nine to five things. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't want to you know. I went
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  Speaker 1: over there. I was like, okay, cool, let's let's make
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  Speaker 1: this call. And then we ended up making a call
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  Speaker 1: in it. It just worked out.
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  Speaker 6: Were you doing all of this in Indiana or did
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  Speaker 6: you like venture out to another.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing all this in South Bend, Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, South Bend, Indiana, that's where Mayor Pete used to
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  Speaker 2: be used to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, he gave me a proclamation before
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  Speaker 1: he dipped out office.
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  Speaker 4: What kind of time today? That must be like a
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  Speaker 4: progressive time if they like the first well, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know if he's the first game man. He had to
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  Speaker 2: be the first game man of South Bend.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean it's up. Yeah, you have Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: I live right across street from Notre Dame, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you have that. But yeah, it's a college town.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not too small and it's not
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  Speaker 1: it's not a big town at all.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he gave you what the key to the city.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he gave me the option. He said, either
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  Speaker 1: I can give you the key to the city, because
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  Speaker 1: he had heard Colorblind and saw where I was going
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  Speaker 1: with it. And it's not South Bend. It's definitely not
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  Speaker 1: musically inclined at all. It's more sports. It's Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: or it's Colt so it's all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So he was like, you can either a Keida city,
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  Speaker 1: you can have the proclamation. I was like, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: was the key to the city even open up? But it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know nothing, but you could have this proclamation and
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  Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah. I was like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I knew, but I was just like I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of being you know, I was joking, joking like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what door is? Like what is this? Are you know
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  Speaker 1: what am I getting out for this? And he was
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  Speaker 1: like no, it's just you know. I was like no.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good. I was like, what's proclamatic?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just let it just go?
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  Speaker 2: A great dude piece a gret dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, No, he's good. He's good. So it
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  Speaker 1: was like the proclamation you have your own day and
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  Speaker 1: they have to celebrate you for the rest of your
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  Speaker 1: life on this day. And I was like, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 2: Now. You signed to death Row?
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  Speaker 3: Was were you nervous to sign the death or because
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  Speaker 3: this was the relaunch of death Row and I'm sure,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with with icons like pop and Snoop and
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  Speaker 3: DPG and all that, I'm sure people were assuming the
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  Speaker 3: first one was gonna be a rapper, right, a hardcore rapper.
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  Speaker 1: But it was it was you. Was you nervous at all. Absolutely, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just knew. I was in the room when he
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  Speaker 1: was finishing the call, like deals done, okay cool. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, bad, oh, this is gonna be dope for you, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, gonna find some dope wrapper out of la
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  Speaker 1: or somewhere like that. And he was like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be you. I'm like, what, like that don't
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  Speaker 1: even make sense. This is a gangst the rap label.
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought we was doing this other thing. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, You're gonna be the flagship for
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  Speaker 1: death Row. I been to learn how to crip. Well
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: yeah like that really you know, I'm working on it,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just like, man, I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna work out, but it's snoop. You kind of roll
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  Speaker 1: with that and it worked out. It was just we're like,
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put out this R and B album. Whatever
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: this R and B album is gonna be. We didn't
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: figure out what it was. He knows I'm a multi
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  Speaker 1: genre artist, so he's like, we're gonna figure it out
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  Speaker 1: along the way, but you're gonna be the first person
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  Speaker 1: that we put out.
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  Speaker 6: And I was then your death Row like legacy like
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  Speaker 6: Doctor Dre or Sugar like commented on your work.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Doctor Dre has for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I've
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: been in the studio with doctor Dre several times. I'm
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: actually on the new uh drean Snoop album that's coming out.
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  Speaker 2: This year Missionary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, missionary crazy title. I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So I've I've been able to hear that whole album
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  Speaker 1: in full. That album sounds incredible, by the way, so
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Dreams.
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  Speaker 4: So on that level, is it cause you know, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of expectation Dre and Snoop. He's saying is to
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  Speaker 4: follow up the doggy starts, a lot of expectation.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It meets the mark.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it hits the mark definitely. So you know, Dre
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  Speaker 1: Dre definitely loves my music. I've played the other stuff too,
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  Speaker 1: but he really loves And even that track that I'm
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  Speaker 1: on is very Marvin Gay esque because he you know,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: he loves Marvel.
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  Speaker 6: Now I'm being nosy. Is the project cohesives? Like is
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  Speaker 6: there a message with a missionary or like I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to give too much? Yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to give too much. I don't want to you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need Drake calling me. I do not need that.
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  Speaker 4: What happened with the Marvin Gate wasn't Dre doing the
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  Speaker 4: mark what they were doing a Marvin Gaatee movie and
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  Speaker 4: he was doing the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 2: Were you involved in that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard. I heard that there
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  Speaker 1: was a soundtrack or something like that, or a movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know where it was going. And I
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: think I was going to be a part of that.
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  Speaker 1: But I haven't really heard anything on this. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: When you put out the Rebirth of Marvin, I thought
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  Speaker 2: you was a bug.
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  Speaker 1: I know I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: I saw it because I felt like you were putting
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  Speaker 2: too much pressure on yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Because when you compare yourself the mythical I ghosts like Marvin,
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  Speaker 4: that's an impossible bar to reach.
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  Speaker 2: So what was your mindset?
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  Speaker 1: I know you put that up. I didn't that album
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  Speaker 1: was not supposed to come out. That album was that.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be Marvin, not trying to fill
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  Speaker 1: his shoes. I'm not trying to do any of that.
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  Speaker 1: As not what I was trying to do. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a multi genre artists. I just go off of vibes.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm feeling, oh today, I'm gonna do pop today,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go in the studio probably knock out
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  Speaker 1: a whole pop album real quick, and I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and set the sidecause that's what I'm feeling. So
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  Speaker 1: I go off of feeling, you know, feeling the music
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  Speaker 1: and what I'm you know, what I'm feeling at that time.
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  Speaker 1: So I was in the studio and if you've been
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: to Snoops compound, he plays music twenty four hours a day,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: seven days a week through the hallways. And at that time,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I was in the studio just going through stuff and
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what track I was gonna do next,
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  Speaker 1: and Marvin played like three four times, so then instantly
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  Speaker 1: in my head, I'm already in that zone. So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool. Then Snoop sent over a track
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is dope. And then
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  Speaker 1: I started doing it and I was like, oh, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds a little bit Marvin, but I'm just gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Liked it so much, so I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do another track, and then Snoop came in and was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is really dope, let me know when you you know,
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  Speaker 1: finished with it, because he knows I like to work
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  Speaker 1: and like, I like to work in spurts, so I
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: don't do just one track and go to next. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if I've done too I might as
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  Speaker 1: well do eight more and make it an album. And
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  Speaker 1: I just put it up. I have a bunch of records,
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  Speaker 1: just put up. I finished the record in like a week.
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  Speaker 1: Rebirth of Marvin was done in the week. I pretty
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  Speaker 1: much freestyled the whole thing as far as freestyle, and
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  Speaker 1: I know it's different, but it's like going up to
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  Speaker 1: the mic and just kind of saying what I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Did that Like Back to Your Place was done in
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  Speaker 1: an hour. My Holland Drive was done the hour. Both
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  Speaker 1: of those went number one. So that's how I do
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  Speaker 1: all of my music. So I put it away. I
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, that was fun. I was in
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  Speaker 1: that Marvin Lane Gray, let me put aside. Now let
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: me get on this Bryce and Tiller lane real quick,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what I wanted to put out. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought Dog wanted me to do, and that's not
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  Speaker 1: what happened. Dog came in and it was like, what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing I'm like, oh, I'm just putting it up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start on this. He was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're putting this out. I was like, no, nobody want
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: to hear old School right now. It's like, trust me,
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  Speaker 1: this is the lane is open. Nobody's doing it right now.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Let's just do it all right. Cool, but it sounds
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit like Marvin. It's like, no, I don't
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: worry about that. I'm like, they're gonna chew me. They're
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: gonna chew my ass up. So you know, we started
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: sitting with the album Back to Your We put it out.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: We didn't even pick a single. We let the audience pick.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: They picked back to Your Place. They picked mahaland drive.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: You know many girls. I know that I love back
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: to You for real?
• 12:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, that song is I didn't even know.
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: I forget what I was playing, but I think it
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: might have been made me on Instagram.
• 12:35
  Speaker 7: But that song.
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: I was like, what is this song? I was telling
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: Envy that like that is how I found you because
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: of the song. I didn't know who you were. And
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: then I heard the song and I was like, who
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: is october Line? I started googling I'm like, death Row,
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: like it just.
• 12:46
  Speaker 6: All of it.
• 12:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it made me I was so interested.
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, if death Row is going to go
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: for this type of sonic sound, he has to be talented.
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: So it made me want to listen to more because
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: it just was completely different than what I thought it
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: would be. But I know that, like some people did
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: have things to say, but a lot of people love
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: the music because it sounds good.
• 13:03
  Speaker 7: But I know that.
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: La gret Ziola gay who's Marvin Gaye's sister, she had
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: made some comments that she liked the music, but she
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: did say that she was just confused why you would
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: want to sound like another person and not do original songs?
• 13:15
  Speaker 7: Like what do you get out of it? Did you
• 13:16
  Speaker 7: get to have a conversation with.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Her family or yeah? I did?
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: She was seemed like she was mad as hell at me,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: which I knew that was going to happen. I was like,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and Dog wanted the name it Rebirth, and
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: Marvin I did not. I was like, let's just call
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: it the Rebirth. I tried to push towards that, but
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm following. You know. At this point, I'm like, Okay,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: all right. You know, Dog has a plan. He's gonna
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: go with it. He's been right this whole time. I've
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: been with him for a long time. I know him.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Let's just do that. And we called it Rebirth and
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Marvin because that's what he wanted to Tyler. And then yeah,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: she was not happy about that because she was like, yeah,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: you can sing, that's great, but you sound like my
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: brother little bit and it's freaking me out. And I
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: was like, that's cool. I just wish she at that
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: point she didn't go, you know, on wax and say
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: also stuff. Yeah, and just I wish he just would
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: have called me or called Dog or somebody like that,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: because then people got on her that love my music,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: that love back to your place. So then they attacked her,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, we have to stop this. But then,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: you know, we end up getting on a call together,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: me and a few of the other family members and
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: they were like, we completely support you. We understand now
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: that you're not trying to be Marvin. You don't even
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: want to fill his shoes or anything like that. You
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: were just in a vibe and I was like, that's
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: what I've been trying to tell everyone, Like that's not me.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: I was just feeling something for.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: People that never heard you, right, Because we're introducing you
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: to some people that might not never heard you listening,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: some people might think that you are mimicking artist, right
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: because you just said I was in a Marvin zone
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: and then I was in a Brison zone.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So even on the new album, it's like old
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: sounds like.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Kelly a little bit. So who is O Tooler London?
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: And where what does the sound come from? Because when
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I when I first heard I thought it was like, well,
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: that's his voice. He can't change his voice. It sounds
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: like Marvin. He sounds like Marvin. But who is I
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: toober London?
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, October one is okay. So this new album, ober Nights,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: it's more of a transitional album. It's getting out of
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: that lane. I'm finally being like, okay, guys, let's get
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: away from this. When it's when you start the album,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: you know you have uh you have touch on me
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: and all those records like that, and then yeah, like
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you said, r Kelly's been you know, my top number
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: one artist because I mean the writing style, I mean,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: come on, it's Kels. Then once you get towards the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: end of the album where you have a big record
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: called time, that's me, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: those records, that's me, like enjoying myself. And then the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: third album obviously when I whenever I do that, then
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get all of me. But right now, it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: just kind of showing people that I can do these
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: waves and I know that we're missing this sound. I'm
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: not necessarily taken from everybody. I just have been listening
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to everybody so much like Kels and Ronald Esey and
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: all that. I just take this a little bit, put
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: it here, but I don't really take from them. I'm
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: just taking that vibe to give you that vibe, give
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you that love and that pain, and that that you
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: know what you feel, what we've been feeling for years.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: So this is a transition project. I still feel like
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: sonically production kind of sounds cohesive. Do you have like
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: a built in team that you worked with or did
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: you decide to work with new people for this project?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I mean usually usually, and Snoop will tell you usually,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I do everything myself, Like I I write, I produce
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: a mix, I master, I engineer myself because I'm like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I gotta get it done right now, Like I feel
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: something I need to get done. I don't want to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: sit here and be like, oh, hey, engineer, what's up.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I can be there at four o'clock. No, no, no, no,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I gotta feel this now. So I learned to do
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: all this stuff on my own, so I do on
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: this album on October Nights. I teamed up with producers
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: like Jeff Giddy, Pooh Bear. I got with baby Face,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously Snoop executive produced the album as well,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and I got with my my homie Superfly. Also, everybody
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: knows Superfly, so yeah, legend in the game. So he
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: came through put his spin on it as well, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it came out really It came out really well because
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: we had kind of went through a thing where I submitted,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: like this album. You're like, all right, let's change this,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: let's put horns here, let's do this, and it just
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: turned out so beautiful. I love it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I would love to know what the Baby Fath sessions
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: were like, because I know Babyfaith, he didn't want you
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: to come in on nothing except for you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sure what was that energy?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Like? It was good energy, man. We pulled up. He
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: was just ready to get down to business. Like immediately,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: there was no oh, let's kick it in, chill, let's eat,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: let's have a little breakfast and all. He was just
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: like are you ready. I'm like, yeah, let's go in there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And we did the session. We knocked it out. It
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: didn't even take all day. Really, he went to writing it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I just let him do his thing, because you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you're in front of a legend. I'm not trying to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I do this, and I'm not about
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to do I'm about to sit here and what you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: need me to do coaching, Like yeah, I mean yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he did man in the lab. We actually, yeah, it
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was a lot. I'm not going okay, I can't. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: can't hold it was a lot. And he knows it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was a lot because I was like, oh, it was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: funny because we were doing the takes. He was like, oh, okay,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: let's do this first take of this and I do
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the line. I was like, card, let's do it again,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: do the line. I'm like, okay, that second one was perfect.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: We're good. That's what I want to say. All Right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: we're good, let's go. Let's go to the next sign.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: He's like, nah, let's do it again and again. I'm like, okay,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: all right, okay, cool, I will do it. And he's like,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: all right, cool, now you're ready to really do it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought we were just doing it. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: thought that was it. He was like, oh no, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't recording at all. I was just making sure you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: were on top of it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I thought the classes get made though.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool. So see, and that's I'm not
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: used to that. I'm used to, Like I said, back
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to your place one take boom the first lign, it
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: was just boom, boom, boom. I just make it quickly.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And even when I told him that, he was like, yeah, no, impossible, Like, no,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that's how I do my record. So he was like, oh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so I'm really at this point, you know, like putting
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you through it. I was like, yeah, but it's cool, man,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it's all good. I'm ready to learn.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Did you ever think in your life did you probably
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: signed the Ovial or did you ever want to sign
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: an Ovial?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I did absolutely. I'm a fan of Drake, so yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to. I remember having conversations with Snoop like, hey,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you know who he should go to? Man, who I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: should do some records? Let me go over here and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: go to Drake. He's like, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I'll call him all right? Cool? And then I wait
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and Kendrick?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: All that up?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Man, Kendrick, Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I like them both.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Why did you ask that?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So I wanted to be that, you know, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, October birthdays ten seventeen, this would be
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: perfect fit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But or Gucci.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Gucci is ten seven. Yeah, yeah that's right, that's right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: But Snoop is a great, great fit. Man. I just love,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I really love. I'm actually a happy artist. Like I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: talked to so many artists that are just so unhappy
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and depressed, and you know, it's like they have people
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: over their shoulders all the time, and that's not what
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: happens at Death Throw. Snooper's like, hey, how are you
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: feeling this week? I'm feeling like a pop record? All right, cool,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: call me when it's done. That's it. There's no stress
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: about it. There's no ah, we shouldn't do that. Let's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Being someone who has done it all for so long, like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: for yourself, what was the transition like having to take
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: the lead of like other people with your vision?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Tough, very because I've just been, like I said, I've
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: been doing this for so long, learning, doing this engineering thing,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: doing the mixing, doing all this stuff, and I'm just like, Okay,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I can get this done. Because I look at a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: lot of artists, it's like, oh yeah, I really want
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Shah Day to drop another album. It's like, oh, eight
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: years later, I don't like it doesn't in my head
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: because I just taught myself. In my head, I'm like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to take that much. So and now look at other
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: arts too, and I'm like, well, you got all the resources,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you have everybody's number in your phone. Why isn't your
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: album getting done quicker? Like why aren't you? Maybe they're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: not in the zone. Maybe they're getting pressured. I don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I just like I said, I'm a happy artist, so
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not pressured by anything. I'm financially stable, like I'm good,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: so I can go in the studio right now and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: be like okay, cool, you need all right, I'll work
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: on the third album right now, or I work on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a country record, I work on a pot whatever. Because
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he that's what helps me make great R and B
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: is by switching genres, taking a break because I don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: want to I don't want to be Marvin, So let
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: me not get too heavy in that back. Let me
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: go over here to the country real quick and write
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: this real quick and just take a break and then
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: go over here to something else.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I was tour with Maxwell and Jazmine.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Sellivan amazing, amazing, two great artists. Me and Maxweld close. Man,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He's just a really great dude, like he's been making
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: sure everybody's taking care of and just been amazing. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: crowd is just absolutely just I'm like, I'm in awe
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of they saying word for word even my stuff, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and me opening up for them like I did my
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: first tour in January, which sold out majority of the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: tour and they were singing it. Then I was like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna do it this time.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: They're doing it this time as well.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: By that you said, even by stuff like yeah no,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: because I.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Just in my head, I'm just still this dude in Soubn,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Indiana that's trying to make it. I'm still feel like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to the studio just trying to Oh, man,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I really hope they like it. I still have.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: That slighting poster syndrome.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, I'm like, man, there's there's no way.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna like this. I don't snoops
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: heard me say. I don't think they're gonna like this
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred times over. I did not think they're gonna
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: like Rebirth of Marvin. I didn't think they're going to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: back to your place. What I was like, No, there's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: no way. I was like this ain't this ain't hot
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: right now? And they love it. And I'm like, okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So that's why I like letting the people decide.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: But you let the real You let the You were
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: kind of letting the trends of R and B guide
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: you as opposed to what traditional R and B is,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: because you make to me traditional R and B. But
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: you thought, because of the way people make R and
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: B now, they don't want to hear this tradition exactly.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You wanted to redo bitches ain't shit but holding trick
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: R and B right, you know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, yeah, I think that was gonna send you.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Something through Like when I heard it, I was like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: who is I thought you? Honestly, I thought you were
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: like an older guy, like somebody. I really was so surprised.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I was like, what is this song? And then I
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: just kept hearing it. So to hear that you didn't
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: even think that we were gonna like it, I'm like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: that is insane. I'm so happy that you didn't get
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: in your own way.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, definitely would like to add that I
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: went to that show at Barclay's. The mic was on,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: and that was really impressive too, because a lot of
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: people vocally live don't hit like the actual record.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now the MIC's were on, man Max is on,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Japmanin's Own Mind is on, And I make sure I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: let people know like I'm not I'm not an auto
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: tuned artist. I have my face. When T Pain came out,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I was everything. I have a list of albums in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: my heart just so T Pain. It's ridiculous, you know
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was like, oh, this is it, Boom,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, you know, I'm gonna get on
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like doing this. And it's that time where like ten
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: times over, like oh okay, Nope, that didn't work out.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Oh I got this meeting with nevermind that didn't work out.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: So this is really random. But speaking of like trying
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: to like things not working out, you were on Empire.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I was on Empire. Yeah, and then you were so
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you did.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I've read about it. You were doing really well. They
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: were talking about making you a bigger character Empire.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the Jesse Jesse smallest stuff happened.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: That we didn't know. When you walked in, I'm like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: He was pissed that one is so perfect for you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Come home man, No, I mean yeah, I thought it was.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That was my first time doing any type of acting.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Snoop was like, yeah, I'm gonna we're gonna add you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to Empire. Like, no, I can't act. He was like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: yeah you can't. No, I can't, man, that's not my lane.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just come on man. And I went on, come
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: on man, and I went on there and and did it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the director was like, how long you've been acting?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I was like today. He was like, I think we
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: should sit down and talk. I'm like, okay, this is
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the thing. I still think I'm dreaming. So I'm like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: there's no way even being on here to breakfast. I've
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: been watching y'all for a long time. It's like like
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just as I was sitting in the background, was just like, damn,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this is really happening. So that's how I kind of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: felt on Empire. So then when Jesse mess it up
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: for me, as soon as as soon as I turned
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on the news, I'm like sh I was like, come on,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: come on, Maine, come on, Mane, don't do me like that, skinny.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, right, because these are the type of stories
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: when you really really take off, everybody's be like damn,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: this guy.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Came out and know it. But you've been with snoopsin.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Just doing background stuff like doing you know, when I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: first got with him, He's like, Yo, I'm about to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: go on tour. Once you come on tour with me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So me doing a small crowd, it didn't start off
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that way. It started off with fifty thousand people. So
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: now when I'm doing this just been at Max. Max
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is like you're really comfortable and says I'm like yeah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like small crowds make me anxious. Really small crowds.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: If I'm in a crowd of like a hundred. I'm like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I can hear everybody's thoughts like that, nigg ain't hitting
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a note like that, and you know, like he sound
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a little dry today, you know. So doing that kind
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of just molded me to be a better performer. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: doing that and then now coming on this tour where
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it's you know, tens twenty thousand people, it just feels
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: feels normal to me. And being with Snoops in twenty sixteen,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I've just been doing that, been touring with him several
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: times overseas everything and just doing like the all the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: stuff with him and Martha Stewart, Like I did the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: song for the Him and Mont Stewart show, the Cooking
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: with Mark, you know, and I did that record and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: then all his albums from twenty sixteen I've been on.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I've been doing backgrounds or I've been doing hooks. So
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I've just been chilling and really caking up.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Is October London.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Trust his own talent, not not not his ability to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I guess sound like others, but do you trust your
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: own Absolutely.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it for a while, so I know
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: exactly what I can do. I have so much stuff
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in the hard drive that I can't wait to drop,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: like it makes me anxious. Even being on the bus
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: this whole tour, I'm just listening to the records, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: everybody gets together and we listen to all the records
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and we're just like, yo, this is really just the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: starting point, Like they have no idea what's to come?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, can we play a record with.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I know you're involved on the
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Doggie Land for kids.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, talk to me about what do you what exactly
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: do you do?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I've been so what I'm saying,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so you know, Snep's been looking out for a long time.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Snoop came in the studio one day or one night
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and was like, Hey, what do you think about doing
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a kids record? And I was like, yeah, that's fine,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: whatever I can do that. I made one kid record.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: He came back in the studio, let me hear what
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you got played it. He was like, Joe, can you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: do anohing like that? I was like, yeah, of course.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: This time I called my son on FaceTime. My son's seven, uh,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I need you to add
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: some vocals to this, you know. He was like okay, Dad.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You know, And this time we did a record called
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: brush Brush, so we ended up doing that and Snoop
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: came in. He was like, who is the kid. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: was like, it's my son, said nephew. He was like, oh,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like okay, cool, I think we should do an album.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: All right, cool, give me till tomorrow because I'm quick.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like tomorrow.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Album.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Color when we came out in twenty sixteen. We
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: came out when I uh Me and Snoop came out
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: with Color Blind. I did eighteen songs in two or
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: three days. I got myself sick, and he was like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: all right, you need to go back to the hotel,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like because I was like, no, one shot, you get
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: one shot, and that was my one shot. I'm knocking
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: out eight to this, so I'm very I knock him
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: out really quick. So he was like okay, cool. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I knocked out the album and then he called Claude
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Brooks and he was like, Yo, I got an idea
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: for a show. Let's call it Doggie Lanb. And now
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm the co creator of Doggie Lanb. I am
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the voice of Woolfie and I do the music that's dope.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: You don't see this type of artist development, the more
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: you don't see people just like working with an artist
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: every step of the way, you know.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And then most artists went it right away. Remember he
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: been seeing the twenty sixteen. Most arts would have left
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen. It was like, I ain't popping yet.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gone, Yeah, you've seen the vision.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I saw the vision. But Snooper tell you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I gave him a hard time too.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, yeah, I get you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: The artist that you see popping, it was like, yo,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: that could have been that should have been me, Bryceon Tailler.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Bryceon Tailor. Brce Stilla came out of nowhere.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: To me, I was like, oh, this is dope. I'm
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: actually a fan of Bryson Tailor. I don't know what
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: artists came up. I know one artist that made me
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: actually kind of pissed me off, to be honest, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that was and that and I'll tell you the story.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Why.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: So it's two thousand and four, who was popping? Who
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just came out with just gotta make it, It's gotta
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: make tray all day. He got the braids, I got
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the braids. Light skinned. I'm light skinned, and my boy
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Travis looked at me and was like, damn, you don't
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: let this nigga eat you up like that, and he
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: just walked away. And ever since then, I've just Paul
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: definitely paused pause him on the side.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: He should have paused the back door before with the key,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: but keep going.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah missed it, but go ahead.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He missed it. So so at that point I was like, okay,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: cool and made me competitive. So I'm super super competitive,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like I've been on I'm not gonna say the artists,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: but I've been on different shows where you know, it's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: several artists on this show, and they'll do certain things,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and I'll go in the back room and I'll put
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: on Michael Jordan's last dance and I'll sit there for
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: about a good thirty forty minutes watch that, and I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: go out there and compete. Yep, everything's a competition. In
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: dark Snoop will consistently like it's not a competition, man,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you don't have to be like, you know, I be
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: so hardy and something like nah, you see the high
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: note he did, No, no, no, I can't let him live.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I love that. Though. How exhausting was it working with Tyres?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You know? Tyres is a is a great friend of mine.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: He's a great d's a great guy, great existent at all.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: He just he's passionate. He's just a passionate person. He
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: puts he literally wears his heart on his sleeve and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you got to give it to him.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Sure, But how exhausting was it working in the studio?
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: We all know him, like, like I just want to know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: like Bedroom Bully, how long did it take y'all to
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: make that record?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: That didn't take a day?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Not with him, I don't know how long it took him.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know how long it took me. So he sent
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: he sent the record to me and was like, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: got this record. He called me, So, I got this record.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I think you'd be great on it. It's very secret garden.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, bad, just just send it. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: was in the lab already sent the beat and I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, this is dope. And he had a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of his vocal on it, and I was like, okay, cool.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So really I wanted him to do his vocals first
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: because the competitive part. And then I was like, no,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. You know it's Tyree's I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: ain't tripping you know, we brothers. I went in and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: put my part on there, then he put his part
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on there and that was it. But it took me,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty minutes knocked that out. I don't know
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: how long it took him to get his knocked out,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but for me, it was it was nothing but bedroom
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Billy is. And that's on the album too, it's on
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: his an min.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: When you do a song like that, do you feel
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: pressure to always deliver to a woman sexually?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? I love cars and women period.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Did you guys make this record before after you almost
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: burned his house down?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: That's just what I was after.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: This was after person.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: The person that almost burnt his house down is sitting
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: right behind. No.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well this was the house in l a.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Uh No, Atlanta?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Atlanta is Atlanta?
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: What happened, Bernard Hooka. That's the only way.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You burn the house down now, right, Because you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: we were listening to some music and we're all, you know, drinking,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: except for Tyree because Tyres don't drink. And uh my
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: boy Jamie was listening to the music. He got hyped
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: up and he was just like, whoa, you know, this
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: is the records, gonna be crazy and he got up
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and he knocked it over. Nobody noticed that first, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I turned. I looked, and I was like, I saw
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: security moving really fast. One of the security guys moving
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: really fast. He started patting on the floor, and I'm like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: what the hell is he doing? Stinky leg or something.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Don't know what the hell he's doing. And I was
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, cool, alright. I guess he's feeling the record.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And I look, I'm like, oh, oh, oh the rugs
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: on fire. His vultron rugs on fire. I was like,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: oh nice. So he's trying to put that out, grabbing
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the coals off the thing and all that, and Jamie
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: felt bad, and Tyrese gives him, gives him ship every time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: What flavor was the hookah, damn it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know. It might have
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: been like mango buried cream or something, and.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: That y'ard almost brunt that house do mango burried?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Oh right, that is not a good way to go out. So,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you know, every every time tyree sees Jamie, he's like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: he can't come in my house, he can't come out. Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: hes be a carver, but you know he lets me
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: in anyway.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: So it's good not a song. Time did you have
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: wedding song in mind when you wrote that?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? So. Time actually is we are in twenty
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: twenty four, so that was done in eight, So what
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: do we It's fifteen fifteen, sixteen years in a game.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's been sitting in my hard drive for fifteen sixteen years.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So that's an old song, old song that me and
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: my one of my best friends, Mike Letter out of Miami,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: we did that record and yeah, I played it for
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a dog. I think I played it maybe four or
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: five six times, and he remembers and then doesn't remember,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: but he remembered. At this time, he was like, yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: we should put this on the album. And I loved
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it because I've been waiting to put that album out
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: because it's just a beautiful ballad.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You didn't do nothing to it. You just that's how
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: recording remixed.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, remix and we added, uh, we added some
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: organ to it. Superfly came in and added like little
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: little things to you know, a little splashes. But other
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: than that same record, when.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: You wrote that, in a way, what was your mind?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Is there somebody you wanted to marry or somebody you wanted.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Nah, I was a I was a sap man back
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: in eight so I was doing everything I possibly could.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: You know I was doing. I was doing the most.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I ain't nothing wrong, like like a kind of like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I was sucker. You know what I'm saying.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: What's wrong with that?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it?
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But you know you would tell a woman stuff like that.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I want to spend the rest of my life.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had poems and ship. Nothing's wrong
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You was texting the poems or you were, like mail them.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: I feel that you would mail them.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: I'm just asking.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Depending how old you are after era we come from,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: We come from that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: You know you go with me?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: No, maybe I just want.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: To know because.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: We always on line like we missed that, like the begging,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: begging love you, we love you.
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: You was doing it and you guys.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Back then. For some reason, I can't write a single
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: poem now.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: I just buy what happened, No happening.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I got my heart broke and then got my heart
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: broken again.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: I didn't mean to laught.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's all right, you just laughing pain.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: Nobody to hear that because that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: In the white man. No, she's like the White Man.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Travis Travis Caleb Plant but your.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Life and so she's willing to meet in the middle.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: That's but she went to Delaware State HBC.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm, all right, you got more The sappiness makes
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: for great music.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: I mean you're trying to say, yea.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Even the record uh Eternity that got on the Color
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Purple soundtrack, that was a fifteen sixteen year old record.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I did Eternity right after me and Mike did Eternity
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: right after Time.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: So Third Shift was a fresh, freshly done record. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: saw you just preview that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah?
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: Was that the.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: Bridge or the hook that she was playing? Who was
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: in there conducting this?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: What for the whole record?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: For?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I went to Jeff Giddy and Jeff was like, Yo,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you want to record it here? I was like no,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going home, and I flew back home to South Ben.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I recorded there and then send it to Dog and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Dog was like, Yo, this is something fresh, it is
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: something new, And then went back to Jeff Giddy and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: got another track, which is kill Shot. So kill Shot
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and Third Shift was produced by Jeff.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Giddy South Ben.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm not if I leave it's not gonna be anywhere.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to LA. I'm not going to New York.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Miami is my weak spot. That's my weak spot.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Is it good because he probably you probably get grounded
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: when you go home. Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I get to be around family, friends, like people
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: on tour, like they're my day ones, Like I don't.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like I might lose myself if I go
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and move somewhere where I have to be seen all
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the time and red carpet all the time, and I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: feel I just feel like I'm gonna lose myself. So
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I go back home. I can come to New York,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: come kick it for the weekend, come see y'all, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: then I'm back home. I'm right back home because my
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: son is there. He goes to a great school there,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and I just, you know, I like being with my son,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: like chilling being at home, and if I need anything
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: or something goes wrong, I'm right there where I need
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: So to final questions, how did your mom feel about Mama?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: She loved it. She loves it because we played it
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in the studio for a bunch of people not too
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: long ago. I think that was maybe last month or
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: something like that, or maybe soon. I don't know time
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is flying by, but we played it and she gets
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: teary eyed every time. And one of the people that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: were in the studio she's like, oh my god, like
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I love mama so much. It's just does your mom
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: know that you you know, you made this record. I
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: was like, she's sitting right behind you, and she goes, oh,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, the mama. I really cannot wait
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to put that record out. I cannot wait because I
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: love the record a lot. And I actually did that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: when Snoop's mom passed. Wow, So when the Stoops mom
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: passed INSPI you to rate that exactly. So when Snoopy
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: had the day after Snoop's mom passed, he was in
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the studio and I was just like, I got my boy.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I got him and I went in there and I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just did it. And then I was like, yeah, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: want you to hear something, and I played it for
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: him and he just, you.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Know, broke down. It made you appreciate your mom still.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, So you know, I just think it's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a great record. I can't wait to drop it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons you probably don't want
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: to leaves out.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Ben Ever, I don't know. I just feel comfortable there people,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you know, like everybody knows me, I know them. Nobody
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: really messes with me there. You know, nobody's messed up
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: any of my cars yet, so that's great. So I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm happy there, you know as of right now.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And it's really cheap to live.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That's living in the por what.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Cost of living is very important. So you know, you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: go do all this and then just go back home
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and chill. Come on, you know what you want to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: hear down, what you want to hear. Well, she brought
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: up third shift, third shift, so might as well play
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: third shift, all right.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Well, October Nights comes out this Friday, and we appreciate
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: you for joining NUK. You thank you, appreciate it, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: let's get into it. It's October London. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club