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Ohio State Football LIVE: Is Jeremiah Smith Always Open? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of buck Eyes
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Morning for Sunday, December twenty ninth. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: tom Or. The Oregon game in the Rose Bowl in
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Speaker 1: three days, the game he gets Michigan in three hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty five days. Jeremiah Smith. There, I said it,
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Speaker 1: Everyone's been thinking it. No one's wanted to ask a
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Speaker 1: question about Jeremiah Smith all day. We're here at the
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Speaker 1: woy Hays Athletic Center, joined by Tony Gurtmanhaddle dot Com. Tony.
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Speaker 1: We got a chance to talk to Jip Kelly, will
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Speaker 1: Howard Quinjohn Judkins, and Mecca Abuka for very esteemed, very
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Speaker 1: productive players and coaches in the Ohio State offense. And
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Speaker 1: yet all of the talk, most of the talk virtually
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Speaker 1: alone the talk I'm about a true freshman wild receiver,
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith. And I think my favorite question there were
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Speaker 1: there were some good ones today and some good answers
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Speaker 1: from Jeremiah Smith. But you get the sense that Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Smith never really feels like he's truly covered almost in
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Speaker 1: any circumstance.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they say like corner should have like the ultimate
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Speaker 2: level of confidence, but there's no there is no level
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Speaker 2: of confident confidence that has Jeremiah Smith, who basically says,
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm never covered. I asked him, are you ever covered?
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Speaker 3: Are are you?
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Speaker 2: Is there a time you're never open? He's like, no,
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe you put eleven or twelve
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Speaker 2: guys on me, then then maybe that's a fair point.
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Speaker 2: But honestly, should probably go to somebody else at that point.
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Speaker 2: With all of that, but he even said it, like
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Speaker 2: the the interception against Tennessee that went to him, He's like,
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Speaker 2: it touched my hands, I should catch it. And that
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Speaker 2: was always something that Chris Carter said way back when
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Speaker 2: that I always remember as a kid, like if I
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Speaker 2: can touch it, I can catch it. And that's his
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Speaker 2: mentality and he works hard towards that.
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Speaker 1: And you watch him and it's not just tall, it's
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Speaker 1: you have seen plenty of Oh there's no way he's
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Speaker 1: gonna Oh Nope, he did. He did right there and
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Speaker 1: one hand catches out, one hand to catches up, one
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Speaker 1: handed catches between two defensive backs. I asked Jim Kelly
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Speaker 1: about bracketing Jeremiah Smith, and you know, what is that?
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Speaker 1: What is that do? How does that impact things? You know?
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Speaker 1: He gave Will Howard a lot of credit for kind
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Speaker 1: of coming off of Jeremiah Smith, and they do have
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Speaker 1: other receivers on this team who are pretty good, but
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Speaker 1: also like it doesn't doesn't mean you're not going to
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Speaker 1: throw it to him. But Will Howard was asked about
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee game and a play the second touchdown Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Smith where you saw Tennessee up and press and you
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Speaker 1: saw Will Howard kind of looking over there a couple
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Speaker 1: of times, like, uh, it really is that the plan?
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Speaker 2: It's basically like Will Howard's like giving them a chance,
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Speaker 2: do you want to fix this? He's like the kid
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Speaker 2: that you forgot to give us homework that tells the
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Speaker 2: teacher you forgot to give us homework at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day. That's almost what Will Howard was doing there,
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Speaker 2: but just making sure. He said, he's watching the safety
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Speaker 2: the entire time, and if the safety was going to
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Speaker 2: get over top, then he was going to throw out elsewhere,
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Speaker 2: and the safety didn't. And you know sometimes the safety
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Speaker 2: can try and still I get there. But it's interesting
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Speaker 2: watching from the from the press box because every single
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Speaker 2: play will be like just chat amongst ourselves. No safety,
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Speaker 2: there's no safety, And it's like reder red alert, like
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Speaker 2: if you want to and then they hand the ball off,
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Speaker 2: what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: I can tell you that's the same conversation on the sideline.
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Speaker 1: I just that's the first thing I look for when
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Speaker 1: they line up, or is the opponent in press? And
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Speaker 1: where is the safety? It is the safety you know
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Speaker 1: on the hash is the safety further out? Where where
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Speaker 1: is the safety? Is there a safety on that side
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Speaker 1: of the field, because if not, I'm thinking, okay, for
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Speaker 1: my first read as a photographer on the sideline is Okay,
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Speaker 1: this ball might be coming very close to me very soon,
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Speaker 1: so I should be prepared for it. And it feels
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Speaker 1: like that's sort of everyone. You know, he's he's the
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Speaker 1: first person that it feels like everyone is looking for
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Speaker 1: on these plays. And he does have an impact even
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Speaker 1: when he's not touching the ball because if you're bracketing him.
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Speaker 1: Will Howard talked about the fact that, well, if you
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Speaker 1: get two guys over him, then well guess what, Like
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Speaker 1: that's that's fewer guys on the whole rest of the
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Speaker 1: field for me to have to attack. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the other receivers that work right, kind.
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Speaker 2: Of makes the progression a little bit quicker and easier too,
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Speaker 2: if you know right away, like okay, probably not gonna
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Speaker 2: be one if Jeremiah has won, so you get to
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Speaker 2: the other guys, but you still to throw to accurately
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Speaker 2: what he has done. Yeah, he impacts everything, and ship
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Speaker 2: Kelly even said the underrated aspect of his game, well,
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Speaker 2: somebody asked, you know, what's what's underrated about Jeremiah's Like,
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Speaker 2: there's nothing underrated about him, because then he said, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, actually he's wereen blocking. His blocking is very
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Speaker 2: good for such a young player. But he is big
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Speaker 2: and he is strong, so that's not a huge surprise.
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Speaker 2: And talking to him today like this was not this
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Speaker 2: was something like a fourth year NFL VET getting ready
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Speaker 2: for like their second contract, Like I am, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to secure my family's future for the next forty years
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Speaker 2: or whatever, Like this is a very focused dude. He
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Speaker 2: even said, like I love football. I want to play
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Speaker 2: football for the rest of my life. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if the news are going to hold
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Speaker 2: up that long. You know that that's a long time,
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Speaker 2: maybe just you know, till you're thirty five, or I.
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Speaker 1: Don't think betting against him has gone well for people
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Speaker 1: so far this year, So you know, I would I
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Speaker 1: would maybe lean towards like, well, if anyone can do it, it
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Speaker 1: could be him. We do appears have a super at
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Speaker 1: Bryan Odes.
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Speaker 4: What wide receiver scores the most in the Rose Bowl?
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Speaker 1: What wide receiver scores the most in the Rose Well?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what's what? Who's in the thumbnail,
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Speaker 1: who's in the title, Who's in who is the first
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Speaker 1: words I said in this show?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: So so what is I don't even know what? There
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Speaker 2: are no prop bets for players in Ohio anywhere, but
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Speaker 2: what would the prop bet be for Jeremi Smith? One
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Speaker 2: touchdown in the Yeah minus.
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Speaker 1: He's played thirteen He's played thirteen games. He scored one
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Speaker 1: touchdown in eight of them. He scored two touchdowns in
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Speaker 1: two of them. So he has scored two touchdowns in
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Speaker 1: almost as many games as he has scored zero touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: Two touchdowns in two games, zero touchdowns in three games.
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good ratio. He's over one one point
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Speaker 1: zero touchdowns per game on average as a crew freshman,
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Speaker 1: which is not normal. I mean they were talking through
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Speaker 1: you know, you know that it's like the Begats in
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Speaker 1: the Bible where it's like, well, Garrett Wilson, then Chris
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Speaker 1: Alave bigat a Mecca Abuka and Marvin Harrison, and you
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Speaker 1: even can go back for a whole that you go
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Speaker 1: playing far back from that, but you know the context
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Speaker 1: was talking to Meca Book about you know, guys who
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Speaker 1: were here and you know the and now you know,
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Speaker 1: well Marvin Harrison and a Mecca Book really pushed Garret
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Speaker 1: Wilson and Chris Alave. Well, now you've got some of
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Speaker 1: the younger guys pushing Carnal. You know last year Carnal
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Speaker 1: Pate and Brandon Innest were sort of pushing those guys.
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Speaker 1: Now you got Jeremiah Smith pushing those guys. It is
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Speaker 1: you know, it is sort of this like legacy at
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Speaker 1: Ohio State and you know that's a room where there's
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Speaker 1: been I mean, Marvin Harrison was probably the greatest wide
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Speaker 1: receiver in Ohio State history. His title lasted about three
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Speaker 1: months because it was but he he left. We saw
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Speaker 1: him at the at the Cotton Bowl last year, and
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Speaker 1: not just not practicing, we saw him at practice. That
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Speaker 1: was the last time we saw Marvin Harrison in person
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Speaker 1: outside of you might have been a pro day. But
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Speaker 1: either way, Jeremiah Smith got to Ohio State and it
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Speaker 1: took everyone like five minutes ago, like, oh no, this
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Speaker 1: dude different, Like it's the you asked Chip Kelly about,
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Speaker 1: you know, his first wow moment with Jeremiah. But but
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Speaker 1: that's always a great thing because it's it's like all
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Speaker 1: these Jeremi Smith stories sound like Sid Finch stories, but
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Speaker 1: they're real.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I did ask her. He's like, I couldn't
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Speaker 2: even tell you because there've been so many, you know,
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Speaker 2: and it's like like you're taking a drive across across
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Speaker 2: country and like, Tom, what was the first blue car
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Speaker 2: that you saw? Like, man, I saw so many blue cars.
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Speaker 2: I saw so many blue cars. And then I did say, well,
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Speaker 2: when was the last time he surprised you by something
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Speaker 2: he did? Because you know, he doesn't surprise anybody anymore.
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Speaker 2: He's like, well, you were Grinch Cleetch yesterday, so that
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Speaker 2: was a surprise.
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Speaker 1: That's different. Yeah, And then and he said that, and
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Speaker 1: I thought I didn't We were in here and I
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Speaker 1: didn't see those. That's deeply annoying.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no kidding.
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Speaker 2: But there are people now, like draft necks who say
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Speaker 2: he would be the number one overall pick in the
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Speaker 2: NFL draft this year. I think part of that's because
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Speaker 2: of the lack of maybe quarterbacks. But this guy is
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Speaker 2: taken seriously by everybody. And generally NFL scouts don't really
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Speaker 2: care about freshmen because they're years away from that. It's like,
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Speaker 2: that's not part of the job. Descript right now, Well,
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Speaker 2: everybody knows who this kid is.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, And you look at him, and he's
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Speaker 1: you can see him getting more comfortable. He's the answers
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Speaker 1: were longer today than they have been in the past.
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Speaker 1: You can sort of see, and you know, Jerry and
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Speaker 1: Mike in the media department do a good job with
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Speaker 1: training these guys up. But there's also just you're more
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Speaker 1: comfortable than you were when you first got to Ohio
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Speaker 1: State because you get to Ohio State. I'm sure it's
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Speaker 1: natural to have a little bit of you know, not
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Speaker 1: that he would ever admit it even if it happened,
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Speaker 1: but you know it would be natural to have a
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Speaker 1: little bit of like, well, you know, this is bigger,
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Speaker 1: this is new. There are good players across the field.
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Speaker 1: For me, some of the best players in the country
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Speaker 1: across the field. For me, Can I do this very
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Speaker 1: clearly like, Okay, he can do this, like he can
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Speaker 1: do this at this level. And I think the funniest
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Speaker 1: thing he said all day was, you know, talking about
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Speaker 1: being in Ohio State for you know, two or three
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Speaker 1: more years, and it's like, walk me through the scenario
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Speaker 1: where you're playing four years at Ohio State.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody expects that, but I do remember
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Speaker 2: he said the toughest thing about about being a college
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Speaker 2: receiver for him, about playing college as the playbook and
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Speaker 2: learning the playbook and how he wants to have the
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Speaker 2: entire playbook down next year in terms of all of
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Speaker 2: the positions, so you know, the H and the Z.
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Speaker 2: But I do remember asking him during the season, did
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Speaker 2: you has this been harder than you thought or easier?
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Speaker 2: And he said it's been easier, Like this whole thing,
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Speaker 2: it's like it's looked like it certainly has looked like it.
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Speaker 2: And he I guess maybe that's that's how you make
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Speaker 2: it look easy, is by preparing for it to be
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Speaker 2: hard as heck, and then when your preparation exceeds the reality,
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Speaker 2: then you can make things look a lot easier than
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Speaker 2: they actually are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that covers Jeremiah Smith I think to a
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Speaker 1: certain degree. Sorry, would be the first thing all year
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Speaker 1: that had covered Jeremiah Smith. But let's move on now
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Speaker 1: to Will Howard, who is you know, a sort of
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Speaker 1: related related piece of the offense. Certainly he is. He
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Speaker 1: has a bunch of different interesting angles to this. Let's
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Speaker 1: start with the Hey, you play organ before. How did
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Speaker 1: that go? A piece of that? And you know the
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Speaker 1: end of that game, you had the penalty against Jeremiah Smith.
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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm sorry, We're going to circle back
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Speaker 1: one SI I get to Jeremiah Smith. The penalty on
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith at the end of the Oregon game. Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Smith had some thoughts on that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sure did. And I should call out the
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Speaker 2: entire quote. I didn't get all of that, but it
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Speaker 2: was just summon up Tom. It was basically, it's too
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Speaker 2: bad that receivers can't be physical and defensive backs are
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Speaker 2: allowed to hold for ten to fifteen yards. I thought
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Speaker 2: this was football, you know, So that's that's really what
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Speaker 2: it was. Like, It's a physical game, but not for
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Speaker 2: receivers can't be physical. And he was basically just trying
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Speaker 2: to get the defender to stop holding him. And that
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Speaker 2: was the then he just kept going and coming. And
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Speaker 2: another thing about this lack of physicality that is allowed
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Speaker 2: for receivers.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was that was a good one.
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Speaker 2: You know, he had a lot of good a lot
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Speaker 2: of good quips today that you'll see it if you
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Speaker 2: haven't already.
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Speaker 1: You don't often get back in my daid by an
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Speaker 1: eighteen year old, but here we are.
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Speaker 3: Like he has to run routes uphill both ways.
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Speaker 1: So now on to Will Will Howard and you know,
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Speaker 1: the end of that organ game for him, it was
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Speaker 1: a different play, but that slide at the end of
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Speaker 1: the game and you know there's one second left in
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Speaker 1: the clock, but it's like ticking right over to zero right,
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Speaker 1: depending on what exact freeze frame you want to get
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Speaker 1: pull out of the broadcast. And this is always one
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Speaker 1: of the things where it's like, I'm sure you've thought
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Speaker 1: about this, but will you actually tell us you've thought
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Speaker 1: about this? And he was very open like, oh yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: like this is this is still something he's thinking about
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Speaker 1: on a regular basis.
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Speaker 2: He said he had nightmares for a while and you know,
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Speaker 2: dreaming about it and it's still something that's on his mind.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know how it couldn't be because of
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Speaker 2: being so close and the decision making and the fact
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Speaker 2: that it was also it was left into other people's
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Speaker 2: hands at that point as well. Goes back to the
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Speaker 2: whole leave no doubt thing. And no matter how well
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Speaker 2: you play after that, or how poorly you may play
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Speaker 2: in a game like that is still one that you
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Speaker 2: would like to get back, and you can't get back.
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Speaker 2: Except now now you have this second opportunity, which is
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Speaker 2: as you're dreaming about it, as you're thinking about it,
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Speaker 2: as it's going through your mind, you're just like, I
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Speaker 2: wish I had one more shot, I wish I could
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Speaker 2: do it over again, and boom, now you have an
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Speaker 2: opportunity to do it over again. And so that's going
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Speaker 2: to be a very very motivated quarterback.
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Speaker 3: And he's not.
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Speaker 1: Alone, No, he's not alone. And then, you know, the
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Speaker 1: motivation was a question that got asked to a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys because coming out of the Michigan game, there's
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Speaker 1: plenty of motivation. All you had to do was get
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Speaker 1: and you know, walk outdoors in Columbus, Ohio, or get
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Speaker 1: online in Columbus, Ohio or anywhere else, and the motivation
12:34
Speaker 1: was was easy to come by and then even as
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Speaker 1: they're coming out of the you know, out of the
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Speaker 1: tunnel at the start of the Tennessee game, you know,
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Speaker 1: especially during warm ups, the Tennessee fans were the first
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Speaker 1: ones in the stadium, so you came into the stadium
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Speaker 1: and it's like, boy, there's a lot of orange in here.
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Speaker 1: And it eventually filled up with red, but there was
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Speaker 1: there was plenty of if you wanted to do the
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Speaker 1: no one believes in us like you see you see
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Speaker 1: teams doing the no one believes in us all the time,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, you're a seventeen point favorite, my dude,
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Speaker 1: like plenty of people believe in you. This is one
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Speaker 1: where you know, I heart it was a seven point favorite.
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Speaker 1: But the Ohio they spent a month hearing, three weeks
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Speaker 1: hearing that no one really believed that they were actually
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Speaker 1: going to do it. So you know, now now everyone's
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Speaker 1: back on the bandwagon, or a lot of people are
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Speaker 1: back on the bandwagon. So now how do you keep
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Speaker 1: that motivation?
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Speaker 2: Well, and that was one of the questions that a
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Speaker 2: Mecha book answered I really liked. He said, basically, how
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Speaker 2: do you keep that edge momentally?
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Speaker 3: As well?
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Speaker 2: I said, if you lose your edge. I wouldn't really
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Speaker 2: call you a true competitor. If you're not more intense
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Speaker 2: than you were the last week, than something's wrong. And
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Speaker 2: Ship Kelly said the same thing, like these guys are
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Speaker 2: all intrinsically motivated. They don't need to hear hateful things
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Speaker 2: on social media to be like I'm.
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Speaker 1: Going to show you, so there you go. You don't
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Speaker 1: have to add the players. They can do it themselves.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they're being motivated plenty in here, and certainly
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Speaker 2: just the goal still being there, like that's that's all,
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Speaker 2: you know, that's the last thing. That's that's the one
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Speaker 2: that they're still shooting for and that they can still get.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're going to be motivated. I don't think
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Speaker 2: there's any let down because of an emotional win. I
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Speaker 2: mean that's this is part of the process. Like you're
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Speaker 2: going to have one game after the other. This isn't
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Speaker 2: two thousand and six Michigan where it's like we did it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: like this is nothing is done yet and then what happened.
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Speaker 2: Nothing has done yet and they know that that's their mentality.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and they know you've got two more after
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Speaker 1: this as well. But first you've got to get to Oregon,
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Speaker 1: and Oregon presents a challenge. Oregon is going to be
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Speaker 1: the Organ already is the most talented team they've played
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Speaker 1: this year, and Oregon is going to once again be
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Speaker 1: the most talented team, even slightly more talented in some
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Speaker 1: ways because they got Jordan Birch back Tam. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: two most talented teams they're playing this year are Oregon
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Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl, followed by Oregon and Onsten Stadium
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Speaker 1: a few months ago. This is definitely going to be
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Speaker 1: a challenge, and you know, Will Howard talked about the
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Speaker 1: challenge that the Oregon defensive backs will pose for the
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Speaker 1: Ohio state wide wide receivers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think some of this is going to
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Speaker 2: get back to Oregon in a way that is maybe
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Speaker 2: a little unfair because he talked about how the Organ
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Speaker 2: corners aren't physically imposing. They're not a physical group of corners.
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Speaker 2: What they do instead is they shadow you and they
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Speaker 2: cover you really well. But I think that the physicality
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Speaker 2: aspect might get back to to the Ducks and and
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Speaker 2: and some of the answers of some of the way
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Speaker 2: it's phrase, but basically they're very very good, but they're
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Speaker 2: not necessarily as grabby as oh I don't know, looks
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Speaker 2: around and then what he Hayes Athletics Center. So they
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Speaker 2: they will turn and they will run. But if you
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Speaker 2: go back to that Organ game, in that first Organ game,
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith against the Barb Mohammed Jamar Muhammad turned and
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Speaker 2: ran and Jeremiah just kept running right past him. And
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Speaker 2: it was an underthrown pass from from Will Howard that
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Speaker 2: should have been sick. So they can turn and run,
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Speaker 2: but it's it's another animal turning and running against any
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Speaker 2: of these because even on one of those touchdown passes,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the first one or
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Speaker 2: the second one to Jeremiah Smith against Tennessee Cornel tit
15:57
Speaker 2: did the same exact thing.
15:58
Speaker 3: He broke open as well. That could have been a
15:59
Speaker 3: touchdo for him just as easily.
16:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one of the things that makes this
16:03
Speaker 1: Ohio Sted offense so dangerous is you've got three wide
16:06
Speaker 1: receivers who you know, Mechabuka talked about Carneal Tate. They
16:09
Speaker 1: don't have a number three wide receiver. They have three
16:11
Speaker 1: number one wide receivers and coroneld Tate would be number
16:14
Speaker 1: one on probably about one hundred and twenty five teams
16:17
Speaker 1: across the nation, maybe more than that, and he's the
16:20
Speaker 1: third leading receiver on this year's team, even g Scott.
16:23
Speaker 1: G Scott is playing a bigger role in the in
16:26
Speaker 1: the Ohio State offense right now. And Will Howard was
16:29
Speaker 1: asked about g Scott and if there's a little bit
16:30
Speaker 1: more of a connection there, and then Chipelly was also
16:32
Speaker 1: asked about you know, hey, it feels like tight ends
16:34
Speaker 1: tend to It might be selected bias, but it feels
16:37
Speaker 1: like tight ends tend to play a bigger role in
16:39
Speaker 1: games like this.
16:41
Speaker 2: Well, if you think about it, well, you mentioned that
16:43
Speaker 2: the tight end is usually a shorter throw down the
16:45
Speaker 2: middle of the field, so it's like a more direct route.
16:48
Speaker 2: But also, when you're playing games like this, are you
16:50
Speaker 2: aren't you more focused on we can't let number four
16:53
Speaker 2: beat us, We can't let this guy beat us. You're
16:55
Speaker 2: not necessarily thinking we can't let the tight end beat
16:57
Speaker 2: us like that's I don't know if that's ever been
16:59
Speaker 2: a game plan for I guess the Ohio State team
17:02
Speaker 2: other than maybe when Fred Puggets was leading the team
17:04
Speaker 2: and receiving with nine catches back in nineteen dickinty four,
17:07
Speaker 2: but really like, you can't let you got to stop
17:10
Speaker 2: the run. That's number one. Don't let number four beach.
17:13
Speaker 2: You don't forget about number two. Take our chances, I
17:15
Speaker 2: guess with number seventeen and number eighty eight, and those
17:18
Speaker 2: scene passes can be deadly. And you know they they
17:21
Speaker 2: just they move the chain whichever way they used.
17:23
Speaker 3: T Scott.
17:24
Speaker 2: You know it's been it's been effective here of late,
17:27
Speaker 2: and I think it's just a lot of it is
17:28
Speaker 2: because the attention that goes on everybody else because these
17:30
Speaker 2: games are so important.
17:32
Speaker 1: Well, and Ohio State does have a couple of running
17:34
Speaker 1: backs of some note as well, who are dangerous in
17:36
Speaker 1: the ground but also can be dangerous through the air.
17:38
Speaker 1: And it's you can bracket someone you can't brack. You
17:41
Speaker 1: might even be able to bracket two guys. They talked
17:43
Speaker 1: a little bit about bracketing Michigan, trying to bracket both
17:45
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith and a Mecha a book. At least at times,
17:48
Speaker 1: you can't bracket everywhere. You run out of you run
17:50
Speaker 1: out of defenders at some point. And if if you
17:53
Speaker 1: do try and bracket five guys downfield, well you're gonna
17:57
Speaker 1: have you're gonna have problems. In the run game probably,
17:59
Speaker 1: so you know, that will open some things up for
18:03
Speaker 1: Travon Henderson or quinch On Jenkins on the ground. There
18:06
Speaker 1: was I think I'm trying to think there was. There
18:09
Speaker 1: was one more thing I was going to ask you
18:10
Speaker 1: about with with Jeremiah Smith that we were we were
18:14
Speaker 1: just about to talk about something and then you distracted me. Sorryly,
18:17
Speaker 1: I am so selfishly by discussing Ohio State football. Let's
18:21
Speaker 1: let's talk real quickly about Chip Kelly and the Rose Bowl.
18:23
Speaker 1: And you know, he kind of no sold this the
18:25
Speaker 1: first time, but it's you know, it's Chip Kelly. He's
18:28
Speaker 1: going back to play his old team Oregon where he
18:32
Speaker 1: was the head coach, where he took him to the
18:33
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, and he's going to play in the Rose
18:35
Speaker 1: Bowl stadium where he was the head coach of UCLA
18:38
Speaker 1: literally a year ago. So this is a very you know,
18:41
Speaker 1: this is this is a very Chip Kelly game for
18:43
Speaker 1: a game that he's going to be just one of
18:45
Speaker 1: the team's offensive coordinators. And he kind of no sold
18:47
Speaker 1: with the first time, but then did go did go
18:50
Speaker 1: into it a little bit a little bit later on.
18:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he is more focused on facing Oregon's
18:55
Speaker 2: defense than he is about where it's going to be.
18:57
Speaker 2: But you can't be part of the Big ten or
19:00
Speaker 2: back twelve and not have special feelings about the Rose Bowl.
19:03
Speaker 2: And he certainly has that, having coached there at UCLA
19:06
Speaker 2: and then also again at Oregon, when that is kind
19:08
Speaker 2: of the the.
19:09
Speaker 3: Ultimate goal when you're there. So it's who are we?
19:13
Speaker 2: I mean, we're always talking about how special the venue is,
19:16
Speaker 2: like he's been there forever, not forever, but many times
19:20
Speaker 2: and this I assume the biggest crowds he's ever played
19:24
Speaker 2: and were probably in the Rose Bowl rather than the
19:27
Speaker 2: UCLA home game. Yeah, and so it'll be that same
19:30
Speaker 2: way this week. But he clearly he has a special
19:34
Speaker 2: place in his heart for the Rose Bowl, and you know,
19:38
Speaker 2: the whole the pageantry of it, the history, I think,
19:40
Speaker 2: the history of it, even talking to him a book
19:43
Speaker 2: about the Rose Bowl. He grew up out west and
19:45
Speaker 2: he grew up an Oregon fan, and that everybody knows
19:49
Speaker 2: about it. You grew up as a kid when you're
19:51
Speaker 2: in your backyard pretending who you are, you're you're in
19:54
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, like I remember I was Chris Carter,
19:56
Speaker 2: you know, and that's just what you do in in
19:58
Speaker 2: Big ten country, in pac twelve country, Gate country, ten country,
20:01
Speaker 2: whatever it.
20:01
Speaker 1: Was back then, you don't appear to be wearing high tops.
20:03
Speaker 1: So now there's finally a way to tell you. And
20:05
Speaker 1: Chris Carter apart. Will Howard also grew up in Pennsylvania,
20:08
Speaker 1: which is when Will Howard was growing up in Pennsylvania
20:11
Speaker 1: was big ten country, which is starting to make me
20:13
Speaker 1: feel old like it was and it's been big country
20:15
Speaker 1: and country for a long time. So he had sort
20:17
Speaker 1: of a similar reaction to it. He also had a
20:20
Speaker 1: really funny reaction to Chip Kelly. And Chip Kelly is
20:23
Speaker 1: showing film from one of his older jobs, and Will
20:26
Speaker 1: Howard kind of going like, oh, that's cool.
20:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chip Kelly the former head coach of the Philadelphia
20:32
Speaker 2: Eagles Bill Birds. Will Howard a former current fan of
20:36
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. Getting to work with Chip Kelly and
20:40
Speaker 2: him popp against some Philadelphia Eagles highlights and game plans
20:43
Speaker 2: and footage, it's like, oh, this is my team. Oh also,
20:47
Speaker 2: that's right, the connection. Yeah, you coach, So what was
20:49
Speaker 2: it like coaching the Philadelphia Eagles. What's what's it like?
20:54
Speaker 1: Well, more batteries issue, you know, hurled at you, then.
20:58
Speaker 3: Don't you hate Santa.
21:01
Speaker 1: I did remember also what I wanted to ask you
21:03
Speaker 1: about earlier, which was Jeremiah Smith getting moved around a
21:06
Speaker 1: little bit more. He got he got moved into the
21:08
Speaker 1: slot a little bit more against Tennessee than he did
21:10
Speaker 1: in previous games, and just well was kind of trying
21:14
Speaker 1: to find different things to do within different ways to
21:17
Speaker 1: keep him from getting double covered and for teams to
21:19
Speaker 1: be trying to, you know, find ways to take him
21:21
Speaker 1: away from them.
21:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did mention getting moved around and the one
21:25
Speaker 2: time at least one time he got phased up against
21:28
Speaker 2: the gout matched up with the linebacker, which turned out
21:30
Speaker 2: to be one of those interceptions.
21:31
Speaker 3: Like the interception was matched up with the linebacker. But
21:33
Speaker 3: like blood goes through your mind when you get moved
21:36
Speaker 3: around and you match up with the linebacker.
21:37
Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I kind of I laugh
21:39
Speaker 2: in my head a little bit because that's that's not
21:41
Speaker 2: really any kind of matchup that the defense wants. But
21:44
Speaker 2: you know, you do what you can defensively and hope
21:46
Speaker 2: that there's help around you.
21:48
Speaker 3: But yeah, you.
21:49
Speaker 2: Continue to move around. That's why he said he wants
21:50
Speaker 2: to be able to do even more of it next year.
21:52
Speaker 2: You know every position, know the acts or another ze,
21:55
Speaker 2: and know the agent and I can you can put
21:57
Speaker 2: me wherever. And they have moved around looking for matchups.
22:00
Speaker 2: He's only going to get.
22:01
Speaker 1: Better and better.
22:01
Speaker 3: I mean there's no like level.
22:04
Speaker 1: Yeah for him. Yeah, if you are watching right now live,
22:07
Speaker 1: make sure he the thumbs up and leave us a
22:09
Speaker 1: common if you're questions for us. We're going to get
22:11
Speaker 1: to some questions. Do we have some questions we want
22:13
Speaker 1: to get to. Okay, let's get to a couple of
22:15
Speaker 1: questions real quick.
22:16
Speaker 4: The first one here is he is two thousand and two.
22:19
Speaker 4: The ref crew that officiated the Ohio State organ game
22:22
Speaker 4: also officiated the Ohio State Michigan game.
22:24
Speaker 1: Worst crew.
22:26
Speaker 2: Well it's an ACC crew this time, so I guess
22:30
Speaker 2: I don't have you know, I don't have huge complaints
22:33
Speaker 2: or issues with the way the last crew did against Tennessee.
22:37
Speaker 2: But that's that's not even that crew. It's just a
22:39
Speaker 2: different ACC crew. So just be glad that it's not
22:42
Speaker 2: a big ten crew.
22:42
Speaker 3: I don't know.
22:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, be glad that pack twelve refs is not
22:45
Speaker 1: a thing anymore. That's that's the one. You really were
22:48
Speaker 1: a little bit like m boy. That's it's almost an
22:51
Speaker 1: art form in a way, all right, performance art rip
22:55
Speaker 1: glasses ref who I believe is still alive, Rob who
22:59
Speaker 1: is a an Oregon fan.
23:01
Speaker 4: Tess Johnson is virtually unguardable. He will statistically outperform every
23:05
Speaker 4: receiver on the field at the Rose Bowl.
23:08
Speaker 1: Tes Johnson is fantastic. I compared Test Johnson to Neo
23:11
Speaker 1: from the Matrix earlier in the week, so you don't
23:13
Speaker 1: need to tell us about Test Johnson. He is dynamite.
23:16
Speaker 1: He was I think seven for seventy five I believe
23:19
Speaker 1: in the first Ohio State Oregon game seven seven for
23:21
Speaker 1: seventy five for a touchdown, I believe. And he's fantastic.
23:26
Speaker 1: He feels like he is the first read a lot
23:27
Speaker 1: of times for Dylan Gabriel. He's kind of their slot guy,
23:31
Speaker 1: a little you know, not a huge guy, but very efficient,
23:35
Speaker 1: very effective, and they used him as a chain mover
23:37
Speaker 1: for the first couple weeks of the season and you know,
23:40
Speaker 1: actually for most of the season he was banged up
23:42
Speaker 1: at times, but then he had one hundred and forty
23:44
Speaker 1: nine yards I think against something like that, one hundred
23:47
Speaker 1: and forty six yards against Penn State in the Big
23:49
Speaker 1: Ten championship game. So yeah, we have seen plenty of
23:51
Speaker 1: test Johnson over the year. And you know, between Tess
23:54
Speaker 1: Johnson and Terrence Ferguson and Evan Stewart, I mean there
23:58
Speaker 1: are some and you've tresha On Holden, who made an early,
24:02
Speaker 1: early departure from the first Ohio State organ game due
24:05
Speaker 1: to actions of his own. Uh he you know, there
24:08
Speaker 1: is a ton of talent in that organ room. This
24:10
Speaker 1: is this is probably outside of Ohio State, probably the
24:13
Speaker 1: most talented receivering corps that is in the Big Ten.
24:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
24:18
Speaker 2: And they've got all They've got guys that could be
24:19
Speaker 2: number one at other places, and they kind of have
24:22
Speaker 2: a couple of number ones. But Yeah, says He's he's
24:24
Speaker 2: like a glitch. He's here one minute and then he's
24:26
Speaker 2: over there. It's like I missed this. He's gonna have
24:28
Speaker 2: to track and on him. Let's to keep an eye
24:30
Speaker 2: on him the entire time. That is a dated reference,
24:32
Speaker 2: I apologize.
24:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he is definitely someone who's going to be
24:37
Speaker 1: a big matchup for Ohio State and that's going to
24:38
Speaker 1: be probably mostly Jordan Hancock's issue to deal with him.
24:41
Speaker 1: So you know, and then and then you're you're in
24:43
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and then you're in Caleb
24:46
Speaker 1: Downs country and lath and Ransom country. So there's going
24:48
Speaker 1: to be that is not going to be just a
24:50
Speaker 1: one man show to try and control him, because he
24:52
Speaker 1: is he is not you know, he's he's not Jeremiah Smith,
24:56
Speaker 1: but he's pretty darn good.
24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a different, big time playmaker in I probably
25:00
Speaker 2: moved some quarters around him as well as they shift
25:03
Speaker 2: around as the receiver shift around, so he's he'll have
25:05
Speaker 2: matchups all over the place.
25:07
Speaker 4: Super Chat, last Wing, Butterfly, any of you chints ready
25:10
Speaker 4: to make a score prediction? Have a safe trip out there, guys.
25:13
Speaker 1: Go buy so a score prediction.
25:15
Speaker 3: Boy, I.
25:17
Speaker 1: Started thinking about this and then thought, yeah, I'll have
25:19
Speaker 1: to do that at some point, but I'm not ready
25:21
Speaker 1: to do it yet. And yeah, I mean not even
25:24
Speaker 1: on the plane.
25:25
Speaker 3: Like.
25:25
Speaker 1: That's typically something that will put up the day before
25:27
Speaker 1: the game, so ask again. Good news. We'll have about
25:30
Speaker 1: seventeen live shows between now and December thirty one or so, so.
25:34
Speaker 2: Our staff picks up on our Thursday or Friday of
25:36
Speaker 2: game day. I don't know what that makes whatever day
25:38
Speaker 2: we're on because I don't know what day of the
25:39
Speaker 2: game is or what day today is.
25:41
Speaker 1: The day is Wednesday, The game is on Wednesday the first,
25:44
Speaker 1: so the picks will probably go up on Tuesday the thirty.
25:47
Speaker 1: There you go, So, yeah, I punched it down.
25:50
Speaker 4: But M Chickens is happy that Tony is wearing a
25:53
Speaker 4: red shirt taking advice.
25:55
Speaker 3: So I've never taken his advice.
25:56
Speaker 1: Tony wearing a red shirt. Yes, I pulled a green
26:00
Speaker 1: shirt out of the closet and then thought, no, people
26:02
Speaker 1: will be angry that I'm wearing a green shirt now
26:04
Speaker 1: because they are playing organ Those are the two colors
26:07
Speaker 1: that I have the most of them in my closet.
26:08
Speaker 1: So you can choose whether to be angry about blue
26:11
Speaker 1: or green, but you will have to pick one because
26:12
Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to be able to bring solely other.
26:16
Speaker 3: Colors to California.
26:18
Speaker 4: See all right, Odysseus, Well we see another burger war
26:23
Speaker 4: between Kevin and Tony in and out versus what a
26:25
Speaker 4: burger do they have?
26:27
Speaker 3: Do they have?
26:27
Speaker 1: What a burgers in southern California? I think they do? Right?
26:31
Speaker 3: No daring?
26:33
Speaker 1: No? Okay, so well that could be Maybe that's a
26:36
Speaker 1: cotton bowl thing.
26:37
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I know cotton ball Jerry, I'm nicely brought
26:44
Speaker 2: waterburger for everybody because we were stuck at the They're
26:47
Speaker 2: study Jerry well for lunch and we couldn't get anywhere,
26:49
Speaker 2: so they.
26:50
Speaker 1: Brought Jerry in the building.
26:51
Speaker 3: Yes for sure, and the only one that spends money.
26:54
Speaker 1: Yes, yes on others.
26:58
Speaker 3: Uh m, chickens.
26:59
Speaker 4: Hoping the game doesn't come down to us being a
27:01
Speaker 4: field goal, even a chip shot.
27:03
Speaker 1: I have zero faith in the kicking game well, and
27:06
Speaker 1: I've seen questions about that on our board as well,
27:08
Speaker 1: and we have we have listener questions that we have
27:12
Speaker 1: at least three Buckhie weekly listener question shows, maybe four,
27:15
Speaker 1: depending on how long we go on some of them.
27:17
Speaker 1: And I know I saw that was one of the questions,
27:19
Speaker 1: and so we'll get into that probably in a little
27:20
Speaker 1: more detail later, but I think you know that it's
27:24
Speaker 1: reasonable to have questions about that. And now the kicking
27:27
Speaker 1: conditions in Pasadena should be better than they were in
27:32
Speaker 1: in Columbus on November thirtieth, so that should be helpful.
27:37
Speaker 1: You saw teams have special teams issues all throughout the
27:41
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs, and a lot of those
27:43
Speaker 1: cold weather sites and it was cold in Columbus on
27:46
Speaker 1: November thirtieth as well, And so yeah, I mean I
27:50
Speaker 1: think it's reasonable to have questions. I think you got
27:52
Speaker 1: to look at you know, how are things going to
27:54
Speaker 1: you know, how is he doing while he's out? You know,
27:56
Speaker 1: how is that all going while they're out in California
27:58
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. You know, he's been
28:02
Speaker 1: a consistent Jaden Fielding has been a very consistent performer.
28:05
Speaker 1: Who was the who was the kicker who missed a
28:08
Speaker 1: couple kicks against was it Durban? Tyler Durbin he Michigan
28:12
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and you know you forget now, but
28:15
Speaker 1: oh boy, because they because they wont but he missed.
28:18
Speaker 3: A couple and they had to make a clutch one.
28:20
Speaker 1: He had to make a clutch one at the end.
28:21
Speaker 1: So you know, you can't. I would advise against writing
28:25
Speaker 1: someone off forever because of a couple of misses in
28:27
Speaker 1: chili weather, because special teams have shown that they can
28:30
Speaker 1: be difficult in uh, you know, in in cold weather
28:34
Speaker 1: in the last week or so.
28:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a pro college kicker, So I mean, this
28:40
Speaker 2: is this is what he's here for.
28:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so we're going to wrap it up
28:43
Speaker 1: right now. Buck guys are going to be out here
28:45
Speaker 1: for practice and just a little bit so we are
28:47
Speaker 1: going to head on out. But one of the first
28:49
Speaker 1: of all, let you guys know we're about to head
28:51
Speaker 1: on out to California. That's going to be we're doing
28:53
Speaker 1: that in stages, but we're gonna have we'll have plenty
28:56
Speaker 1: of coverage kind of throughout the day today and tomorrow
28:59
Speaker 1: as we make our way out to California. Buck guys
29:02
Speaker 1: will arrive on the evening of the twenty ninth, so
29:06
Speaker 1: that's on the evening of Sunday. They're supposed to arrive.
29:09
Speaker 1: Organs supposed to arrive about seven pm Eastern and the
29:12
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29:16
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