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Cut Off at the Root with Bekah Martinez · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio, and we could have been more excited
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  Speaker 1: to be here. I'm telling you what. We're pumped up,
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  Speaker 1: jacked up, ready to talk about everything Bachelor. Ashley. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is getting insane. Some people hate this season, some
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  Speaker 1: people love it. Everybody's on edge. Are you ready to
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  Speaker 1: break this down? Because I am. I'm really into this episode.
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  Speaker 1: It was good for being three hours and me being like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tackle three hours now after the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed pretty much every minute of it. It's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Just be We're not going to break it down right now.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it later. We have a special
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  Speaker 1: guest today, Becka Martinez and her co host Jess Ambrose
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  Speaker 1: are coming on the podcast today to talk everything Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: and their podcast. So in a second, welcome then them in.
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  Speaker 1: But before we do, Ashley, I want to just make
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  Speaker 1: a statement and see if you agree or disagree. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this season has not been bad. I will never categorize
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  Speaker 1: as bad. I like Peter. He is a nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't until this episode that I was I feel hooked.
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  Speaker 1: I could have cared less. The first couple weeks to
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  Speaker 1: watch or not. Now I cannot wait till the next
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  Speaker 1: one comes out. Okay, So I guess like I'm less
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  Speaker 1: interested in who he ends up with this season, but
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  Speaker 1: I am always latch John to the drama. Interesting. Well,
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  Speaker 1: here in a little bit, we have some really passionate
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  Speaker 1: folks in studio today. Our producer Tori has just blown up.
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  Speaker 1: There is gonna us with her passion speech on how
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  Speaker 1: much she hates this season. So we're gonna bring her
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit. You really hate it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it. Really. I don't think any girl is like great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like trying to picture every time once the episode ends,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, who would I want to see? Have
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  Speaker 1: be like the next step as like the Bachelorette. I
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  Speaker 1: can't pick one. Okay, so every girl comes with a caveat.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of agree with that. That blogger girl, um
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  Speaker 1: McKenna is. They're giving her a big storyline right now,
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  Speaker 1: just like I'm so sad. I want him to see
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  Speaker 1: how amazing I am. So I'm like, maybe it might
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  Speaker 1: be her because it's very self deprecating, but I just
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  Speaker 1: can't with her. You guys know that, Like I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: stand McKenna for a while. This this episode, maybe be like, Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: I like her, you know I well, I don't. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say like like, but I can
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  Speaker 1: watch her now, I can watch her see things the
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  Speaker 1: same way when she goes I want him to see
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  Speaker 1: how great I am. I put my hand in my
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  Speaker 1: face and I'm like, what are you talking about? Why
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  Speaker 1: are you trying to show him how great you are?
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you just show him who you are and
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  Speaker 1: see if he thinks you're great? Oh? Then you you
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  Speaker 1: were things so beautifully. The most time I really liked
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  Speaker 1: McKenna is when she goes, I'm just so tired, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I really relate to that. The
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  Speaker 1: one time I was like, okay, mcganna, we're on the
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  Speaker 1: same page. I liked her this episode because she was
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  Speaker 1: just like I am a hot mess and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna show you guys. But then why can she say
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  Speaker 1: that and not get ripped to pieces about being emotionally
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  Speaker 1: in able? But there's Kelsey being like, I'm so sad anyway,
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  Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up this thought
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  Speaker 1: pause this thought tory. We're gonna bring you back on
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  Speaker 1: in a few minutes. We talked back to give our
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  Speaker 1: opinions on all the madness, and let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: it is madness. Hey, Ashley, I spent some time in
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  Speaker 1: here a second ago researching how to live on a
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  Speaker 1: tour bus, because in two days I start to move
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  Speaker 1: on to a tour bus for four months. You want
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  Speaker 1: to hear something wild and potty jokes are never fun.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a potty stuff is fun and relatable.
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  Speaker 1: It's never that good, but it's relatable. Did you know
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  Speaker 1: that the number one tip on a tour bus is
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  Speaker 1: that you have to stop the whole bus get out
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in public to go number two? Yes, I did
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  Speaker 1: know this. There's ten people living on my bus. You're
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  Speaker 1: telling me I have to go to the front of
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  Speaker 1: this bus every morning at nine o'clock knock on the
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  Speaker 1: driver's door and say hello, sir. I'm struggling to evacuate
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  Speaker 1: my but I need I need to. I need to
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  Speaker 1: change everybody's life. I need to allow you to sit
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  Speaker 1: and not continue to progress forward on our next location
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  Speaker 1: because I need to take a break, and not just
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  Speaker 1: a break. Now, every single relaxing moment of my mornings
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  Speaker 1: has to be rushed. Why do you guys love their
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  Speaker 1: pooping moments? It's like such a weird thing. So here
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  Speaker 1: I am with Tori, And before we started recording, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Tori, I don't know if you're with me,
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  Speaker 1: But the last time I had like a girl versus
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  Speaker 1: guy conversation about like pooping time, um, the girl was
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  Speaker 1: on my side and the guy was on Jared's side.
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  Speaker 1: So like, Jared like likes having his like moments right,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently Ben like also needs like apparently what did
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  Speaker 1: you just call it? What time? Like relaxing time? It's
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  Speaker 1: it's enough time to read two articles on and on,
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  Speaker 1: like my sports interrap. Never read anything on the toilet
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  Speaker 1: because oh, if my body is telling me you gotta go,
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  Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom and it it happens immediately
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm out of there. That minds me quick.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not much different of a time between p
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  Speaker 1: and poop. And then I talked to Jade and Tanner
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  Speaker 1: about this. Tanner needs like a full hour in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: Jade is like, no, I can just go and get out.
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  Speaker 1: And what the heck is this a girl versus guy thing?
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  Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, maybe listeners, just a good listener question. Listeners,
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  Speaker 1: please email us at Ben and Ashley. iHeart media dot
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  Speaker 1: com or hashtag guess it's almost from his podcast? What
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  Speaker 1: is this all about? Is this scientific? Is this preference?
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  Speaker 1: Has society moved this in a direction that is unfair
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  Speaker 1: to equal sexes and that neither side should have the
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  Speaker 1: amount of time they have in the bathroom. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is, hey, but here's something else cool.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, Okay, I was just gonna say, but Ben, um, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I was aware of the tour bus rules and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry you have to go through that. They should definitely
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  Speaker 1: upgrade update tour buses of that like it can hold
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of storage. So yeah, when all you
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  Speaker 1: out there that are listening are seeing me at one
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  Speaker 1: of these sixty six locations, just realized that my life
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  Speaker 1: has been so stressful over the sixty six stops. There's
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  Speaker 1: just a lot going on. Hey, two quick stories before
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  Speaker 1: you started, both kind of revolving around this situation. One
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  Speaker 1: to close up this topic. As I'm looking at Google
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  Speaker 1: on how what the options are for me, uh to
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  Speaker 1: not have to stop the bus, There's something called the
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  Speaker 1: hot old bag, and it's a grocery bag that you
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  Speaker 1: can stick in your toilet, and then you're tied up.
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  Speaker 1: It's a thing you claim it's not. It's a thing
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  Speaker 1: on tour buses that people do. And then you politely
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  Speaker 1: go up to the front of the bus. You tell
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  Speaker 1: the driver, Hey, can we just stop for one second
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  Speaker 1: as I throw my trash out. That's a good option.
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  Speaker 1: You can look it up. It's called the hot old bag.
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  Speaker 1: Then the driver knows that you have a bag of
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  Speaker 1: poop in your hand. Okay, well, that's gonna still a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things about me by the time this is done. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Second thing is uh Brandy Cyrus, Yes, the beloved Brandy
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  Speaker 1: Cyrus co host with Wells Adams on their podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: was living at my house last week while I was
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  Speaker 1: in Orlando, Florida. I get a text from Brandy Cyrus
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  Speaker 1: that says, Been, something's leaking in your basement. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound good. I'm called the plumber. Plumber comes out,
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  Speaker 1: says Been, your main line has broke at your house.
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  Speaker 1: Everything at this point is going to back back up
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  Speaker 1: into your house. Oh oh yeah, the whole It's real
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  Speaker 1: beautiful downstairs right now. We have gotten it cleaned up.
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  Speaker 1: But let me tell you team, this is a funny
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  Speaker 1: little thing I put on my Instagram on like Thursday
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  Speaker 1: or no. On Sunday, I am knee deep in my
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  Speaker 1: main line trying to get things cleaned up, cleaning up
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  Speaker 1: everything that's gone the basement. On Monday, I am hosting
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  Speaker 1: g m A and walking a red carpet. If you
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  Speaker 1: think life is funny, that's how real it still is.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty real, let me tell you. So. Hey. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: that's my life right now, and I'm getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: hit the road for the Batchel Live on Stage. Please
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  Speaker 1: come see us at one of our sixty six locations.
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  Speaker 1: Go to Batchel Live on Stage dot com for more info. Ashley, Yeah, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to be at the One
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  Speaker 1: Reno making a special guest appearance. You guys, if you care, man,
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  Speaker 1: it just sold out within seconds, I'm telling you right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet. It's Ben, me, Jess, Jared and
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  Speaker 1: Kaylyn and Dean. We're all spending Valentine's Day together. So
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  Speaker 1: a triple date. How do you feel about that, your
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  Speaker 1: first as a married couple. Well, I don't really care.
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  Speaker 1: That's as a married couple. I think it's like really cool,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really fun. We can do Valentine's Day
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  Speaker 1: like day date anytime, Like we had a nice date
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  Speaker 1: this week, so you can make your Valentine's say any day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pumped for. We're gonna have a great day. Chef's
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  Speaker 1: coming into the house in to that, we're staying at
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  Speaker 1: word of a Blast. That's what we do for you listeners,
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  Speaker 1: because we host this podcast. We into our Valentine's Day
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  Speaker 1: together with friends and we're pumped about it. Hey, Ashley
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  Speaker 1: Becka Martinez has been is rolling up in the studio soon,
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  Speaker 1: So let's get through some of these hot Bachelor trending
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  Speaker 1: news stories. But before you do, let's take one break
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  Speaker 1: talk about some of our favorite people that support the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll come back with the Batchel training news. Actually
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from here, but I do
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  Speaker 1: want to say this first story makes me very sad.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's so sad. We love Joe and Kendall. I
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  Speaker 1: love hanging out with them together. Joe is such a
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  Speaker 1: cool guy. Like Jared just was able to relate to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he could like he hated l A
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  Speaker 1: and that all he wanted to do was be back east,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Chicago, you know what I mean, the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the country. So Joe and Kendall broke up,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know if it's been clear,
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  Speaker 1: but pretty sure the main reason for the breakup was
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  Speaker 1: that she never felt like she was going to want
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  Speaker 1: to leave l A. She was born and raised here,
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  Speaker 1: and her family is all still here. Her identical twin
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  Speaker 1: sister lives here and they are unbelievably close, and so
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  Speaker 1: she didn't want to move. And then Joe was just
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  Speaker 1: so unhappy here that he couldn't. He didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: spend much longer here, let alone the rest of his life.
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  Speaker 1: So this is one of those reasons. This is this
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  Speaker 1: is one of those distance truly or not distance, but
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  Speaker 1: like location really broke up the relationship from the information
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  Speaker 1: that I got. I mean, I get it. I've been
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  Speaker 1: in it before, Like I've had past relationships that one
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  Speaker 1: person wants to live somewhere else and you can't figure
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  Speaker 1: it out neither side is necessarily like compromising, and when
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  Speaker 1: you do tier compromise, it doesn't feel any better. That's tough. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But we love Joe and Kendall and UH wish him
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  Speaker 1: both individually the best as they moved forward. I really
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  Speaker 1: do feel like they'll remain good friends because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was a distance or it was a location thing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So our next piece of news is that Jordan Kimball.
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  Speaker 1: You guys remember Kimball. You know, the male model is
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  Speaker 1: following jared footsteps, will be following in Jared's footsteps, and
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  Speaker 1: and it will be one of Chippendale's newest celebrity guest host.
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  Speaker 1: Jared did this last year. It was only one show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure Jordan's doing much more, but you guys,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan's or not. If you are in since city, go
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  Speaker 1: see Chippendale's because it is a hilariously entertaining show. We
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  Speaker 1: were there with Jay Tanner, Nick Um and our agent
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  Speaker 1: and the guys had so much fun. So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of just like a parody and it's a very
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  Speaker 1: enjoyable show. Jordan's will probably make it better if you're
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  Speaker 1: a Bachelor fan, So check them out. Hey, really really
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  Speaker 1: big article that came out about Ben Higgins. Yes, it
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  Speaker 1: says who really gets up? Hannah Brown with from Batchelor Nation.
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  Speaker 1: This is from cheat Sheet. This is a funny, funny
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  Speaker 1: article to read because they had a nowhere go, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: who should hand a Brown date from Batchel Nation? So
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  Speaker 1: I started going through all the single people. There isn't
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  Speaker 1: a lot of single men in Bachelor Nation right now
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  Speaker 1: that like would even be able to, you know, stand
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  Speaker 1: up with Hannah Brown. But I said Sean Booth, I
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  Speaker 1: think Nick Vile obviously would be somebody. You don't think
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  Speaker 1: Nick's down to date Hannah? Why not? He has a
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  Speaker 1: little he doesn't he doesn't want to dat or I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you that he doesn't want to date. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Sean Booth does either. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing is like, and I said, there, I haven't talked
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  Speaker 1: to Sean about this. I was just in an interview.
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  Speaker 1: They threw it at me. I started just spouting out names.
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  Speaker 1: I was just with Derek Path and Wells the night before.
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  Speaker 1: I was like this, you know Derek, he was on
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  Speaker 1: our live podcast. People seem to love him. Maybe him,
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  Speaker 1: but other than that, actually, was there anybody I am missed? No,
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  Speaker 1: Derek definitely is probably the best single option. I like
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  Speaker 1: the idea of Sean, but again, long distance is relationship there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about how that's going to really form
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  Speaker 1: And if you guys want to listen, if you guys think,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to know more about you know, Nick's
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  Speaker 1: feeling swords Hannah, you can listen to his podcast. He
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  Speaker 1: hasn't like said like if there's not like dirt or anything.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't think that they'd be compatible, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that he's interested. So Derek Paith is
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  Speaker 1: obviously out there. He's a good one. I didn't you're
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  Speaker 1: saying I didn't miss anybody, right, Um, I think I
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  Speaker 1: think thinking like all the guys are kind of taken
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  Speaker 1: h yeah, not wild. Wow, we're all getting so old.
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  Speaker 1: There so much love going around people are you know,
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  Speaker 1: people are going to be like, I can't believe you
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  Speaker 1: guys didn't comp with so and so. I know, Well
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  Speaker 1: that's good. Let us know, why don't you she can
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  Speaker 1: She should go back to Mike Johnson. Give that a whirl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can try that out. M see how that goes. Hey. Also,
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  Speaker 1: there's a picture of Peter's mom's that is blowing up
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  Speaker 1: the airways. His mom is saying, bring her back, bring
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  Speaker 1: her back. Who could this possibly be Ashley? Early in
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  Speaker 1: the season, we thought this was Hannah. By right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking that Hannah By does not show up again. Um,
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  Speaker 1: this is referencing some other women, and I still feel like,
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  Speaker 1: if it's not Hannah, it's Maddie. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what I said week one, gonna stick to it, You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna stick to it. Well, hey, it is fun to
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  Speaker 1: see how much involvement, Uh, you know, Peter's family has
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  Speaker 1: had so far this season. I always loved to see
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  Speaker 1: the family side of things because I think it brings
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  Speaker 1: a reality and it makes us feel more involved in
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  Speaker 1: the whole story. His His parents obviously don't mind it either.
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  Speaker 1: They've gone on podcasts and they've willingly go on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and they'd go on podcast Oh what podcasts they did?
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  Speaker 1: They did podcast Warner Brothers, the Happy Hour podcast. So
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  Speaker 1: like they obviously enjoying this, but so did my parents.
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  Speaker 1: They were involved in the whole process and it made
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  Speaker 1: it better for me. I think Peter's mom is passionately
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  Speaker 1: passionately still speaking about Hannah Brown, she's passionately, I still
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  Speaker 1: think so. I think I think that you're just trying
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  Speaker 1: to make this a good story. Actually, actually it's not
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing at all. I really think Hannah Brown
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  Speaker 1: comes back. I will stick to it until we watch
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  Speaker 1: this thing. I really I just get a sense based
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  Speaker 1: on press, based on interviews, based on what we've talked
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  Speaker 1: to people about. I get a sense that this season,
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  Speaker 1: even though it feels dramatic, now gets even more dramatic later.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a happy ending. I think there's love,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it gets really really dramatic, all right,
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  Speaker 1: And I can only I can only think that Hannah
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  Speaker 1: Brown would add that drama. I don't know how these
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  Speaker 1: women get any more dramatic than they already are. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they're doing a pretty good job on their own. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're doing it fantastic. Ben. Um, you know we
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: are next guests. You've had a little drama with I think,
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  Speaker 1: or she's a little drama with with you. So Becca Martinez,
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  Speaker 1: little Becca or young Becca from ARI season, we'll be
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  Speaker 1: on with us next to break down the episode. I
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  Speaker 1: love that she's here. I love how blatantly honest and
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  Speaker 1: real and raw she is. She's always been one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorites, but apparently has had some beef with my
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  Speaker 1: co host, So you guys can address that when she
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  Speaker 1: comes on. We're going to take a break and then Um,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: welcome Becca and her podcast co host Jess into the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: studio Becka Martinez and Jess amber Cerain Studio. We're gonna
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: break down the Badgelor, but also talk about Chatty Broad's,
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  Speaker 1: their new podcast that is taking over. Okay, before we
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  Speaker 1: get started, Becca, We've we've got to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: elephant in the room. Um, you've never been a fan
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  Speaker 1: of me, and I want to know why that's not
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  Speaker 1: even that's not even true. The one that I said
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  Speaker 1: I never liked was Nick, and then I changed my
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  Speaker 1: mind and I never didn't like you. Then then why
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: do I feel like there's always been tension? We've got
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: to talk this about because tension, tension there is Well,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: this is the Bachelor focused podcast. Drama just changes to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: suck us back in. Okay, okay, okay, wait, okay wait.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Jess and I always make fun of you because you're
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: on every season of the Bachelor we have, we make
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: we make fun of you that because we're like this.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Jess calls you Chris Harrison's love child. I have Chris
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Harrison's and that's why we think you're always That's why
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: we think you're always on the show. And we give
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you about that, but that's the only I give like
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: what I haven't been on a season of The Bachelor
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in like years actually, like Colton season, you had two
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: appearances and they cut one, or that you have like
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a three appearance is cut one Paradise. No, he didn't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: do no. I mean he went to the wedding though,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: skit was last year, a year and a half ago
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to the wedding, but here it was. It was the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: live shows, some of the like after the final rows things.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point. I didn't think about that,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: but just you know what muched him. And it's fine.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: We all know why they are because he is the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: perfect representation of bachelor. You're the last kind of bachelor,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: uh that we had, like Peter before Peter, absolutely Peter
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the true bachelor stereotype. Yeah, when they found Peter, they
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: were like, this is our bend second coming geez, until
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: he just stuck a glass in his face and they're like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: you ruined it all that goofy? Why else do I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: hate you? He's going with production too much. I'm gonna
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: say it. I just have always felt I don't know
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: what it is. I've always felt, uh like maybe just
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: nervous around you or like that you didn't like me
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: based on Twitter or response to things, and I just
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: felt like we were always miscommunicating, which is why I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: wanted to come on here and squash it right away
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and say Becca, I respect you, I appreciate you. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: think you're a great mother, and I'm glad you're here,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and I hope we can get over this so we
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: can have a blast and talk about everything that's meaningful
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in life, which is the Bachelor. Oh Ben, I'm so
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: down for it. There's no beef here, but I'm going
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to keep making fun of you if you keep coming
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: on the back game. Let's do food on the table kids.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Let's introduce JUSTS and Jess.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: How did you guys get together for a podcast which
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't just talk about the Bachelor? Right? You talked about Well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it started like don't you hate Ben Higgins too? That's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: how it started. Yeah, exactly, Well, we could do this work.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: We have this in common. Um, it was just kind
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of a random thing because we actually didn't really know
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: each other very well at all. Um, we each other
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a few mutual friends and we were virtually acquaintances, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: then we just both had the idea, like I want
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to do a podcast, you want to do a podcast.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We have good conversation, and she got pregnant and I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: have a little one, and she's like literally one of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the only people I knew in Los Angeles that was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in a similar age range to me. I'm still quite
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a bit older, but I'm like, oh, hi, you're not
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: forty with a child, Like, let's talk, you know. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: then it just kind of came from there. Yeah, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: she has her husband is in music industry, so they
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: had like a recording studio in their backyard, so it
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: was like, let's show up and let's just talk and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: record it and see who happens. And then fourteen months later,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about months there ago. Jaffer always a Bachelor fan. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: missed some seasons, but I started young. I started watching
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: with my mom first season. Okay, so yeah, of course
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you missed a few seasons. I missed a few here
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and the boys distracted me the real life, you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: he distract me. But back in business, all right, So
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I want to go just a logically through the episode.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You guys watch alright, three hours, but I said it
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was a speedy three hours. It was a trauma to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I was at a junior high girls lunch table throughout
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the whole episode. It was like, I mean, these girls
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: are these girls are like Caddie like I've never seen. Yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they feel they start crap over things that I feel
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: like that that are ongoing crap over nothing. Yeah. Is
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it just me? Or is I feel like this is
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the first in seasons that I've seen this kind of
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: drama between the women, Like it's always something I don't know.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It feels exhausting to me. It feels like I I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning as I was prepping my
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: notes here, and like, you have this Peter who is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: laughing and like happy, and he feels like I'm so
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: excited to be there, and He's dancing around. He just
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: wants to have fun. And it feels like as soon
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: as he starts to smile, it's like sends up like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the radar for anybody to run out and be like, hey, Peter,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: let me ruin that a little bit, like let me
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: just take you down a notch, let me make this
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: hard for you. And that's how I feel. Every episode
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: has been this poor man's age like twelve years and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: three weeks. He's like, can I just say he's probably
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the most producible bachelor. He's so yeah, I guess you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know what a bachelor. I think he's such a good bachelor.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think he is too, but he's so naive. He
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is in the sense that he keeps saying like, you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: guys know, I believe this works more than anyone. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you and your mom are like the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: most hardcore Bachelor fans. We believe sweetie Pete is just
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like genuine and he's the most luminous. He was like
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: human I've ever met, but completely naive. There's this moment
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: where he really shows his naivete in this episode, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about when we get there. So let's let's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: start off with a la drama. So you know, well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I thought last week he guaranteed Ala was going to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: stick around for another week with that Rose. Apparently that
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Rose camped around for like twelve hours. I did not caring.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: No one is safe with the Rose. Apparently nobody is
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: saying that was crazy to me. Rose ever been taken
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: back before in our memories. I can't remember when, but
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I do think it points Like you say, we can
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: say all those things about Peter, and I think Peter
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is going to do great. I would just continue to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: reassure him, like, this is gonna be great for you, man,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: all this is gonna end. Well, it's gonna hurt for
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a while, but like you're gonna end on a high
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: note here. I think what it points to is he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: so confused and he just wanted to He thought it
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: was going to be a good decision. Then it becomes
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a bad decision. Then he has to take it back
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and now he's lost again. And I think we're what
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we're seeing is we can watch it from TV and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: go I'm following the storyline. I don't think Peter is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: following anything right now. And I think he thought he
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was going to squash the drama by getting her off
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: again and then nope, there's still or there's a thing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this on the podcast
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: last week, but he definitely thinks micro not macro. He's like,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: what is going to be like good for me and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: her in this moment, without thinking about how it's going
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: to work out for everyone and like the bigger like
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: when he takes the girls aside and like asks them
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: or when he oh it's later in the episode, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: when he brought up to Kelsey like, yeah, so some
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: girls said you were mentally unstable. Just wanted to check
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in on that. Why would you, like, you have no
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: idea the drama you're bringing upon yourself when you're doing this, man, Like,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: nobody's going to get defensive when somebody calls you crazy crazy,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: press off, no problem if you were an alcoholic and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: mentally unstable. Big just wanted to check with you on
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that and your perspective. For I think he really doesn't
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know what he's doing when he like communicates with the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: women sometimes Yeah I feel okay, so but yeah Lah,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: so he lets orgo and I think for her, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: felt bad for her too. I mean, but she was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: taking her beating. Man. It was it was And we
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: talked about this on our podcast that we're not a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Leah fans, but we think that, I mean, none of
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it was valid except that they personally didn't like her absolutely,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: So that's what I keep saying. She definitely wouldn't be
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: friends with Becca and I in the house, not our
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: cup of tea. But the thing is, she never really
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: did anything. It was all hearsay and it was all
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: just vibe. It was like vibes and it was all
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: personal Sydney, which we see again Sydney. Sydney is a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: good carniver. You know why because she um, she hasn't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: done anything wrong. And yet I'm still very worried about her,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Like I'm worried I would not she would worry me
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in the house, like she was going to try to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: get me into something without implicating. Yeah, exactly when I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: opened around Sydney. Truly, even here as a host in
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: this podcast, I don't know what to say to her.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Is like worrying me
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: about her because I'm a little afraid that I'll get
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: myself in trouble because I have nothing to go off well,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: because she goes, because she goes on the attack, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: when she goes on the attack, she doesn't back down.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: She is like, yeah, I don't know. They found the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: right word to use, the one word that's like not
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: super offensive. But yet we can look at it a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: couple different ways as mysterious. And then he tells he
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: calls her mysterious and she goes. I get told that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: all the time. I know, I think I'm so mysterious too, right,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Like just just shake it up a bit. Okay, here,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: let's organize your thoughts a little bit. We've got to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: walk through this episode one one time because we have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to make a story at the end. And I have
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a question for all of you. Actually included that I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: think I've unlocked the key to trying to figure out
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: how Peter gets better here and what happens um we
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: see le go home, Peter Cracks's head open, the girls
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: are are fighting, Sydney goes on on on one on
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: one day, and then we're back in the house. Kelsey
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is venting the Tammy and this really sets the tone
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the episode. This scene here is
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: really the way that this rest kind of the rest
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of the episode of shakes out from. When you see this,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I know that you all have your opinions. I'm gonna
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: let you take it over. Actually, I know you're you're
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: saying that she's not crazy, she's not drunk, she has
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of here. How do you know
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: about to say that he apparently knows me too well
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and my interpretations of people in the episode. Okay, well
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you know what I was just about to say that,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So obviously I'm on Kelsey's side. Here, I was the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: crier in the house, the very emotional person in the house,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't stand being emotion shamed, and she is
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like being emotion shamed like no other. Like I can't
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: believe that she's crying, like really minding her own business.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, sure, maybe she had too much drink, but like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: is that also a crime in the house or anywhere? No,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: So then like Tammy makes it like she has a problem,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: one a drinking problem. And then there's like the whole
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: pill popping problem. Oh my god, what she she's seen
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: at night taking her like nightly birth control and like she's,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so horrible. But then, um, but
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: like why would Tammy. Tammy really thinks this is a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: red flag that she needs to bring up, Peter because
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: she's overly emotional, are you kid? Here's the other issue,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this is the almost the bigger issue that I have
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with it. One, she doesn't own up up to it
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: when Kelsey says who said something? And she just sits
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: there minding her own business, like not owning up to it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And secondly, when Kelsey finally confronts her about it, like
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: did you talk about me? She says she turns around says,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about you. That is such. She says, I'm
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: concerned about you, but then later says Mike Concer scerns
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: about you are infringing on my relationship with people. Both
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of those is trash. I'm not giving my heart and
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: headspace enough to Peter. I'm giving it to you. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was like, mother Ef, So yeah, I don't think I've
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: ever seen you so impassionate. And the thing is we're
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: emotional emotional. Most shaming shaming is where Ashley gets passionate.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just really, this is the thing I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: have with the girls these seasons. This season, they just
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: keep bringing up stuff that's not just shut your mouth.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It's they're making it just personal, like you don't like someone,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go tell Peter that they're a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: bad person because of this reason, this reason, Annister like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I just stay away from them in the house. You
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: don't need to be their best friends. Just like. What
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: also bothers me is they keep we we talked about that,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we were texting about this last night. They keep saying
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Peter's not respecting us, or we don't trust Peter. They
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: are not respecting Peter because they did not respect his
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: judgment with a Leah first of all, which I always
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: think trust the person's judgment that they're going to figure
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: out about this person's character. I said, Okay, of course
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: we say that, and that tattling is always a bad
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: look show. But for Peter not to make like that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: decision to take it on for himself that early on
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: in the season, right weird to me? Yes. Well, then
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: when he turned it around and said, like when he
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: actually gave the rose back to her, like, I understand
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: how they were pissed because all of them wanted her gone,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: but I was also like what he was asserting was
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be swayed by petty drama and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: this is what I want and this is what my
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: heart wants. And I thought that that was actually admirable
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of him. I don't think he should have sent her
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: home in the first place if he didn't want to,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: but like I thought, it was even more wishy washy
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: than when he sent her home after and then like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and then and then they're also now
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: still tattling about Kelsey, about her being emotionally unstable all this,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sure he'll figure it out on his own.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Why is her crying affecting them? It? It's not, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they can't keep to themselves about other people's business. Ben
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the thing when all of you there in the room
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: are in committed relationships and if you're not currently then
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you've been through them. I don't know about you, but
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: there's one thing that happened to me this week where
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I was watching it and I was trying to mirror
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: into my own life. And I have a girlfriend now
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: who it's a very healthy relationship, and I've never heard
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: her intentionally like bring down somebody else that's not in
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the room. Like if she has a problem, she'll confront
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that person and say, hey, I don't understand where you're
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: coming from, Like you don't make sense to me right now,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like I want to understand this better. But she would
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: never come to me as her partner and be like
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that girl is crazy, she's a drawn from her, stay
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: away from her. She would never murder somebody's name like that,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And if she did, it would be a red flag
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: for me because I know that's not making me a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: better person and making me love people anymore. While So
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: my point here is if Peter has all these women
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: coming to him all the time, bad mouthing somebody else
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: in the house, at some point he has to look
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: around and go, there is not like a woman here
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: who could be totally okay. Well then, Ben, did any
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: women come to you on your time as the Bachelor
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: talking about talking about another woman and you actually appreciated it? Honestly?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get this wrong, and one of
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the super fans out there will probably tell me my
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: life more than I remember it. I can't remember. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: don't think so there there really was never. I mean,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the one villain on my season was Olivia. But Olivia
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't like a villain. She wasn't mean to be. She
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't a bad person. One of the girls, I know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: one of the twins came to me at some point
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, like Olivia like hurt me. And I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: remember her crying. But it was a big moment. That
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was maybe the only time it wasn't Olivia sucks, it's hey,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Olivia hurt me, which is different, Like I'm in paying
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I need to talk about it with somebody um outside
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: of the girls, and I get that, Like that's fine.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: She was confiding in me, but I don't remember that,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: or I was thinking, like Hannah season with Luke, I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: think some of the guys came forward to her saying that,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: like Luke is lying about this and that, and like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: if I was the lead and someone said like, hey,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: this person is telling you this and they're directly lying
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and saying something completely different with us, I would want
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to know about that. But just being like we don't
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: like her and we think she's fake, or we think
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that she's emotional, it'd be like, stop wasting my time. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: if you find out that, like someone has a boyfriend, like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: please let me know. But if you're like, she bothers
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: me because like she wears too much perfume in her
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: voice is too high, Like, don't talk to me about it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to go about my way and choose.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to choose. Well, he is kind of indulging
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: in it too, which is a little bit part of it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I know that I'm critical here because I've definitely calm
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to people on the show. I've been like I don't
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: like her. I don't know, I don't know how you
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: like her. Why did you do that? Actually? Because I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: get you. Yeah, but um, well, I think there are
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: different circumstances. Um. I think that it was more I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't do I have to get into the past now,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: how I want to know your thought process? Um it
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: was I guess it was kind of like what Kelly
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: was saying, or it was like, how can you like
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: me and also like her at the same time when
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: we're completely Kelly said that on her one on one
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: about who she like, brought hannah An out as an example,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but she was like, don't make it a big deal.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: She don't make it's just like like like a different place. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So I think it was more like that. It was like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: how can you get along with something like that and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: then also get along with me? And and me also
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: saying he's like because she's tall. I don't know, because
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there's like the fake thing, and I'm like, I'm all
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: about like calling people out from being fake too, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: because that's because I think they're not being genuine in
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the in the circumstance that is the Bachelor. I say,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: waited out though, like there's thirteen girls he's gonna start cutting. Really,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I do think this is too early to be doing all.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It's like once you get into the top like six
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: or seven or that kind of thing, and then you're
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like seeing this their relationship really deepen and maybe if
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: there's some serious red flags. There's so much to say
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: about this episode, well hey we do. We have to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: move forward into the group date. The girls are doing
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a photo shoot with Peter for cosin Paul and I'll
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: start this conversation now by saying, there's never been a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: date more awkward in my opinion than this one here
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you take it from there. Horrible. We
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: are going to revisit Kelsey though, right, We're definitely gonna
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: be too much. So yeah, there's um it's a weird date.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: The Cosmo day is definitely like I would be, oh girl.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I like how Cosmo is trying to rebrand too. They're
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like We're all about empowering women, like that's our mission.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, really, because I think it's just like seventeen
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: ways to suck as you know what. I will say, No,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Cosmos different, and yes, I do right for Cosmos, so
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I know I have to. I do have to defend
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: them though, because I feel like Cosmo has changed a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: lot over the past couple of years. Here to the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: fact that I even like, I'm like, where are those
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: sex tips? Like, I'm like I need them now? Where
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: are they for them? I know? And now I can't
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: find them? And now it's all about like doing great
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: in your career and moving ahead and beating the boys.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like darting. I'm like, I'm like, I need the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: other stuff as well, please, but I have questions. Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: so yeah, they take pictures. Um, It's just it's I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: felt like this day was much stubb substance to it,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Like there's not much to talk about except for the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: fact that it was. No one made a big deal
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: about Victoria kissing him, which with us, I was going
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to say, we have to stick on this. Yes, I'm
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: with you. I feel like I feel like this date
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: was very on brand to the dynamic that's been going on.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Let's make it a competition about what girl gets to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: be on the cover of Cosmopolitan. That's vicious. That's the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: only group date competition I've ever truly wanted to win.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's football or like, you don't
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: want revolved clothing. Actually that was a good one, Really wasn't.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, here's the thing though, I had one rule
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: really like I did a lot of things wrong during
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: my time in the batchelor. I do tell anybody, this
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: is a good rule to keep if you're gonna be
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the lead. At one rule that I stuck to, don't
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: kiss any of the other contestants in front of the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: other contestants. Ever. That's what I'm saying, no matter what
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the scenario, never do that, That's what I'm saying. He's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like oblivious to the drama that he's inciting between the women.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It's really not aware of it. And he was kissing
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the favorites, so like, of course it's going to spark
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: issues like I don't know how you do that, which
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it surprisingly didn't that we didn't. It didn't. I think
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: he's just been doing it so often they're like, oh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: this is part of the competition, I guess. So normally
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it would be like, oh, I am accidentally walked by
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: that room while they were having their one on one
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: time and they were kissing. But nothing like on a podium,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like except for like you know, Karen and Nick that
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. But that was like sort of on brand. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So later at the cocktail um hour, I love Natasha.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Natasha because you kill it. She's just so funny because
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: she's always she's always just basically like f Peter. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: think any time her and Peter have had a conversation,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it's her confronting him. I don't think it's a preparting conversation,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: not involving a confrontation talking about like talking about other
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: people during your time. But sometimes you have to just
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: say sometimes like you don't know what the heck else
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to talk about because you don't have any friends outside
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of this thing. You'd have no commonalities like in front
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of you. You're not like on a regular date where
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you can be like this beer is good. Um, Like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: have you watched that show like on the TV, Like
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of things that don't come up
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: naturally and every you know how You're like, I know
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: this is random, but like on the show, everything is random.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Every conversation you just like context out of air. That's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: so interesting. I haven't thought about that. Yeah, oh, I've
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: fully spill all the team in Sure there's somebody we
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: can talk about that we both know. I would almost
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: keep her around too, just for accountability. I almost feel
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like at this point, he's like, I don't think you
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: like me that much. For whatever reason, you've stuck around, Like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep you here because it keeps me a
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: better person for you if you stick around a little while.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So like, let's make it work. At this good day,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Kelsey says that she's falling in love with him and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Hannah Ann gets the group date Rose he really feels
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: like she's been giving. It's so funny because we couldn't
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: stand to Hannah and at beginning this is fine. Now
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: she's pretty much the only one that I have neutral
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to positive feelings about. I would say my most neutral feelings. Yes, yes,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that's a really really don't just bypass that thought. We
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: will for the stake of this podcast for time, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: just mark that in your history of your life and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: remember that as the season goes on that at one
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: point you said the only one I'm can see am
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I appreciate seriously? All Right, So then there's more Kelsey stuff,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but we will that's where like the hell kelsey emotional
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: unstability comes in, but we'll we'll address that when she
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: goes to have her one on one time and he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, So the next date is Kelly's day,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and I again love Kelly because she is like so
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to me real, she's just not going to giggle at
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: things that aren't funny. She's also not that into him.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: She's not that she was when they first met, that's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: for sure. I think that's why she's been kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: like spiraling, Like when she got the one on one day,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh shoot, like oh yeah, so awkward. Even
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: when he asked her to accept the rose, I feel
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: like she would have been okay if he said, I'm
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: actually not going to give it to you. She's over it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think she's been like all these girls are fighting
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: over this guy, and she's like, yeah, he's cute and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: he's very very sweet. But I and I think that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Peter is a smart guy and he's a great conversationalist.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anything about his intelligence whatsoever, um,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: but I think that he she probably just wants somebody
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: who will be like a little bit more cerebral. Well,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and he's naive, like you said, like she's not. Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: like she wants to talk about law and politics and
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I don't know if that's what
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: he may want to talk about that. But in demonstration
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of like how he is, and when he talks about
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: with the other girls, it doesn't like it doesn't come
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: across to her, probably like he does, because his conversations
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: with the other girls are so classic Bachelor. From what
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: we're seeing, it's like, I'm feeling great about us? Are
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you feeling good about us? Oh? That's awesome. I really
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like the way that like we're doing and like you're
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: showing me like a beautiful heart and soul. And that's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: why I loved watching their day because it was like, oh,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: this is an actual conversation. We are like going back
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and forth about our opinions. I feel like, sorry, go ahead. Then,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: well I was just gonna say, let's too, but as
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you search a ship, I thought, here, I want to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: just preface this with with understanding where Kelly's coming from. Yes,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I don't love the fact that she told him she's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: how mature she is. Well you all listening. Yes, that
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: drove me up the wall and it was my first
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: thing that really made me angry. But I also get
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: where she's coming from because we just kind of skipped
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: over it, which was good that we did, but we
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: have to bring it back. Now that we're talking about this,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: there's a context here where Tammy and everybody's arguing right,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and these girls are watching this. Some girls are giggling,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Some girls like pull out their popcorn and are watching.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Other girls are like witnessing from afar. This gets wild
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: fast as Kelly sits there within it as somebody probably
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is a little more mature, is pretty smart, like really smart,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: and it's going, this is crazy. I don't fit in here. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: she definitely doesn't fit in there not And I get
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: where she's coming from when she does bring up like,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't see myself being like any of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: these other girls, so like, do we have a future together?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: What you want? And maybe it's problematic if someone says
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that they're more mature if they're not, But she seems
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: so clearly more mature, like you're saying, demonstrate thing that
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: she's never getting involved in any of the drama. We
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: haven't seen her involved in any of it yet, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she feels like on an overwhelmed basis more mature.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I mean I would never today. I would also feel
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I hope I haven't said that about myself.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I would feel uncomfortable saying about that myself like, I'm
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: very mature for my age. But that's why. That's why
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: when I say that I'm as you were the one,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: isn't it crazy being attacked for it? So that's different.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how at twenty three you were you
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: were the young one. Now it's like the average age
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I know. And it's also that's the thing. So I'm
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: sitting here watching it and I'm like, oh, I feel
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: so mature for my and this is just such. It's
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: just all dumb. It's just all dumb. It just sucks.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: They do so many of them suck this season. I'm sorry,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Like they really screwed Overpeat with this grapp of women.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I really think. So they're really pretty. I mean that's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: what every time, like somebody says that, like I get
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the response it's like, they're really pretty. That's what I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: get from guys. But I'm finding myself so much less
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like attracted to that. I thought that they were so
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: physically attractive, and I'm finding them so much less physically attractive.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: As I'm watching this stuff play out, I can understand
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: they don't find them as pretty as I did at
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the beginning, and understand and Colton had a lot of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: young women, but it wasn't the same kind of drama
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: or the level of it, or the pettiness we've talked
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: about many times on the podcast. Just how as we
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: get to know the contestants at first, everybody's beautiful, Um,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I want you to know how more their stories start
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to show when you start to have your favorites. Here's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the thing, and we'll get into it in a second.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Uh right now, Favorites are a plenty on this season.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: We come back, we're gonna summarize the ending of the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: episode that's definitely wild and crazy. We're also going to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: talk favorites. I have a question for these three that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I think might help us understand Peter a little bit better.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: But let's take a break and come back. Okay, So
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: here's the scenario. Everything's chaos, riots are ensuing, Peter's confused.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Cars are being flipped, and glasses are being slammed into
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: our faces. And now we get to this point in
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the episode where Kelly's one on one happens and it
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: goes well. We like Kelly, we don't know if there's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: anything there for them, And we get back to the end.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Kelsey sneaks over to the house. They have a really
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: good conversation. I'm just gonna summarize this quickly. They have
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a great conversation. I felt like she was open and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: honest with him, which is what you want in a relationship.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: He responded, well, they have a great time, but it
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: brings about drama that we need to talk about. So,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and this is where my question for you three come in,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you loose here. So we know
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that chaos has happened this season. We know there's a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: lot of little fire starters that are talking about everybody else.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So what you would think to do as the lead
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: would be to cut off the dry mama at the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: root totally. So are you referring to roses? Is that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a great like a little like that? Here's my question
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: for you, not intended. Where do you cut off the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: drama this season? If you're Peter and everything's chaos around you,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: no wonder he cancels the cocktail party because he can't
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: probably take any more of it. Where do you cut
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: off the drama? It's unclear to me. I want to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: hear from you. I think it's in his position. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: don't think it'd be clear to him. But me watching
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I know exactly who where are we going to say him?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: He's the one that starts at all, just remove your season.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Look in that conversation, he was the one that started
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: up the drama by being producible and naive by extending
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Kelsey the rose in that moment, not seeing that by
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: doing so that was going to create far more drama
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: than if he were to just hold back and give
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: her the rose a couple of hours later. Because sure
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: he may have been thinking that moment, Oh, what a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: relief she's going to be able to go into tonight.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Just chill, relax. It's a great feeling. It is a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: great feeling going into a rose ceremony with a rose.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I never did. It seems like a great feeling. Um,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: But she would have been for when she came back
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to that. She's just holding it like it's like she
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: would have been far more relaxed if she didn't have
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to come back, and she could have had with the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: sense of their their conversation meant that she was through
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to another week and she wouldn't have to explain to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the other girls that she got a rose early because
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: she went over there. She was rewarded going over there.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It's very true. It's true. Actually, it's quite a good point.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I see that I'm seeing a little trio of a
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: little of little Catty Catty junior high girl kind of
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: trio going on, and it's looking like Victoria pe City
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and Victoria F. Wow. Not sure if I put Victoria there.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I want to hear your thought I want to hear
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: your thoughts. This is why I think Victoria F is
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a huge red flag because virtually every time they have
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a conversation, I actually so, you know when they had
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a one on one talk this time and she was like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you forgot my birthday. I thought she was going to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: do the thing she does every time where she runs
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: into the corner says that she's going to live until
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: he begs her to say and says they have a connection.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I I half expected her to do that. Every single time.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It's always this thing of like, but I'm ruining this
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: for you, or like but I can't do this, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: then oh wait, actually I'm amazing. Like that's how she
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: during the photos. Yes, two weeks ago, she couldn't get
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: on stage during the like you know, she's so nervous
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and so shy, and she's like she's sports illustration. She's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: on a Cosmo cover now, yes, and with the heights thing,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and then she how she blew the in my opinion,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: blew the chase things so out of proportionate. She just
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: always seems like a little bit like playing this manipulative
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: game where it's like I'm gonna and then he's like, no, don't.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: She's like, okay, that would get me to the right now.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I think it works. It would work. Oh, I would
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: be all about. I'd be like, no, please stay girl,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: do whatever you need for a tame to see. I
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: think it totally would work. But I just did that
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: thing you just did when you're like, I'm not good
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: at this and you threw your arms up there a
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: second ago. I'm good at I've never found Beckham. I'm overcoming,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of like her thing. And then Victoria Pete,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's not addressing how she I don't know. No,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I don't trust Victoria. First of all, there's the Alia thing.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Second um in this situation. Now, Victoria Pete is now
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: admittedly the one who brought up the pill popping, and
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: for some reason she's able to cross her arms and
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I admitted it, So now I don't
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: take any fault and everyone just let's appreciate that about her.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And then of course Sidney is just always like on
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the attack, super like aggressive in people's faces, like she
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: is like yelling at people's faces. And when she confirmed,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: when she decides to tell Tammy like I would never
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: consider talking about other girls to Peter, and it's like,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: where were you, like three days ago, what were you doing?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And so Tammy said that back to her, he was
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the starter she started. There's a lot of amnesia happening
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in this season. It's like, I remember, like last week
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Peter said, Kelsey was like so drama free and low key,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and we're like, Peter, do you remember champagne Gate? This
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: happened like that was really I still think it's really
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: weird that he has it. So it's it's a tense
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: relationship with Kelsey, but like doesn't remember how like apparently
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: she was a bully a couple of weeks ago, and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: he was so disturbed by the bully occusation. I still
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: can't get over this. So then Tammy throws it back
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: at Sydney and it was like you started the alaa stuff.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And then and then um, Sydney just totally deflects and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: she's like, this is crazy, crazy crazy, she is nuts,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. But it's like, whoa, Okay. I thought
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that they were going to make it like I thought
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: they were going to actually show no support for Kelsey
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: this this episode. I thought like all the girls were
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: going to be like against Kelsey, and I was because
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: they had talked a bunch of crap on her behind
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: her back before. But I was so relieved to see
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: them turn on Tammy because Tammy really was the root
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of this problem. Just seven though drama, Like we're talking
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: about drama. Kelsey last week was the least dramatic, but
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: like because she doesn't because the environment you're living in,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Like if everybody's dramatic and you just say a few
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: things that cause a fight, right now, you're looking pretty good,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Like this is a pretty easy season to make it
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to the end. Look at Maddie made a word, same
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: was Hannah and Hannah Ann has been really good too.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And then then Kelly is the other one who hasn't
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: really touched anything. Kelly's like, has her bagpack, She's ready
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to dip in any second. She's like, I'm out, Yes,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: we didn't hear from you. I really want to know
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: who you would cut off the route. I mean Sam
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: as Becca. To me, it's Victoria Pe and Sydney for
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: sure right now, because are that she's not going to
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: see the Sydney thing for I don't think he's ever.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I don't like he's going to the Sydney thing. Like
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I said, she makes me very nervous. She makes me
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: scares me a little bit too, But she's the girl
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that scares you, and you still you're like, I don't
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to go after her because I think
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: she's going to win the argument, even though I don't
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: know how she's going to win the argument. She's going
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: to It's Sydney, but it's Sydney. I would love to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: see that. I would love to But Sydney and Victoria
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Pe are the two to me that I'm just like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: baffled every episode who caused drama and somehow get away
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: with everything. And the thing with Kelsey, which I appreciate
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: is though yes there is is drama, everyone in the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: house seems to like her because they forget about the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: drama quickly. She just hasn't done anything to anyone else,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: right The only time she talked crap was with Hannah
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Ann and the whole champagne bottle, which you know that
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: was a little bit of an exaggeration, but whatever. And
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: before we move on from Kelsey, I have in my notes,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be clear as the girl the spokesperson
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: for the crying girls. Emotional doesn't mean insecure. Emotional doesn't
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: mean that you're emotionally unstable. It doesn't mean that you're
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: having an emotional breakdown when you're crying, even if you're
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: crying every day, and an environment, even environment like The Bachelor,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's perfectly normal. Yeah, um, are you talking
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: about Victoria f called her out and said this is
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: a show for secure women, so like figure it out.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: She did say that that was bad, and then, um, like,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: being emotional doesn't mean that you're nuts. Um drinking, you
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: can't call don't call her out on a drinking problem.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: You have absolutely no idea whether she hazard doesn't have
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: way out of line. Her emotions are not infringing on
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: anybody else's relationship with Peter, and that's basically all I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: have to say. There was a moment and it reminded
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: me a lot of one week that I had in
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the batchel and it was the same week it was
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: week five. She was like, you guys think that I'm
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the crazy one here for crying. Why the hell aren't
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you crying. You guys are being ridiculous for not crying.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't believe you guys like him.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're not this emotional said that. She was like,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I actually believe that. I think the only two people
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: who are actually like, really in love with Peter are
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: McKenna and Kelsey at this point. I believe Y hasn't
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: talked to him yet. But she so honest, Like when
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Tammy said, like, did you talk about me? And Kelsey
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: was honest. Kelsey said, yes, I brought up and I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: said that you said this and this, but that's all
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I said. And she was truthful one confronted about it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And I really don't love this part and team. We're
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: gonna get into your podcast here at the very end,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: so stick with us here. But I really want your
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: honest feedback here. All this is funny games. This whole
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: show is funny games. It can't work. I think we
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: all agree, like, hey, this could possibly work. You know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: we have a successful relationship sitting in the room from it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: But you have to be really careful on the show.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: And I wish people would take this responsibility when they
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: get casted for questioning somebody's character and saying something that
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: could last with him outside of the show. In the show,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you know, do your thing. They get mad at each other,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: argue whatever, little tests, little fights. But the pill popping part,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I don't understand to me why this wasn't a bigger
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: deal for everybody stopped in the room and go time out.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: This is a conversation and a serious conversation for us
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: as we're just spouting it off when we're sitting at
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: a cocktail party about somebody having a pill addiction that
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: we're just going to pass over and argue about, Like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: how did nobody step up and go time out? Guys?
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: This is a big deal, Like this could really hurt
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: somebody for a long time, and she doesn't have to
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: disclose her out of all prescription, which she was also
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: talking about really private information. That was a really serious
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: moment for me, Like that was I was watching this,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I was saying, this is all funny. I'm laughing up
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: until this point, and now somebody's back there going yeah,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I just said she had a politiction because I said
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I saw her taking some pills. I know, it's so crazy.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: You should have seen the drug store that I have.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: But not for emotional stuff, right, Ashley, No, not at all.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it's true, like this is sad and from
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: somebody from me personally, who have who has struggled with
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: pills in their life at different points in times like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: that to me was like you gotta be like this
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: is this is not funny anymore. And but and then
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: then it gets funny again, so then it gets out
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of it because then it kind of moves on to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: whatever else you're arguing about. And I do want to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: just highlight and so everybody should go watch this stuff
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: as good again. Rewind it to this point. You have
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: like three girls I don't know their names at this
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: point that are sitting on the couch like in the
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: back with their eyes wide open, just watching this go down.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: And I know these moments and I would love for
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the people have been on the show and jes for
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you they love this show to speak to this those
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: moments where like everybody wonders how edited this is, these
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: are the moments that cannot be edited this is this
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is beautiful. Yeah, that was fun. It was It's so true.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: And also it's like, I don't know why people think
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: it has to all be so produced. It's like, look,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: this season is a perfect example. Throw like twenty girls
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: in a room throwing some alcohol with it and like boom,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: just stand back and let the fire, let the fire
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: blow out of control. Yeah. Absolutely, So let's talk about
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the Rose ceremonies. The cocktail party was canceled. Um, which
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: is the perfect time, you know, perfect scenario for a roast,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: a rosy meremony cocktail party to be canceled. And Tammy
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: can't um. So she interrupts and says, can I talk
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to you? She says, from what we saw, very inconsequential stuff, right,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: McKenna interrupts, and I didn't even really take note of it.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is no, she didn't say anything. Well,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: what I think is like what we said before, what
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: we noticed in the beginning is it seems like like, um,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you know how on the first episode, a lot of
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: times the batchelor will just cut the people they didn't
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: talk to, like you know, they're like I didn't get
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: a chance to talk to her. So if she's going home.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Peter did the opposite, where it's like he actually kept
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: all the girls like the first night who he didn't
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: talk to, and so it seems like now this time,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: it seems like if he has any like feelings at
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: all and he still feels like he needs to test
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: it out, he's going to give that person a chance.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's what happened with Tammy, like
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: he wanted to see her side of this because he
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: sent him Shannon and Lexie and it doesn't seem like
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: he connection. There's never been any mentionable moments for them,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and I guess like he and Tammy have kind of
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: had some fun moments, so that's probably where he was like, Okay,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I know there's no hope there, so we'll just move
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: on from them. That seems to be more of his
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: m O. I also wonder too, if it's like, at
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: some point he's smart enough to go. I'm so confused
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: right now. Everything is so chaotic. I'm not getting clear
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: answers from anybody. At least. Tammy's like trying to like
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: talk to me about stuff like, yeah, it's not pretty,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: She's probably not the one for me. This is not
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: getting any better. But at least she's trying to communicate
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: with me where some of these other women aren't at all.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Even though the only community Asian is bad mouthing other people.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: That's not good either. Yeah. Question for you guys, do
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you think that those conversations that he was pulled aside
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: for did anything and changing his mind? Or do we
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: think that that was the roster he was going to keep.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think it changed his mind. I don't think
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: it did either. No, I'm going to agree with that
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: they were just they were always, like you said, in
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: consequential conversations. Yeah, and really time wasting. Yeah. I mean
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: maybe they were longer. Maybe they did come across as
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: being very short, but I think he kind of already
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: had his mind made up for sure. I bet they're
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: really short. You think about how awkward this is. He's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: sitting like fifteen ft away from the women. They're standing
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: up there for god knows how long. At this point,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: they're all a little anxious and ready to get out
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: of there, like he's probably going to keep those really
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: really really short. Hey, um, team, I'm gonna go around
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the circle here. We'll start with Jess and end with Ashley.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Thoughts so far on the season. We'll keep this short
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and concise. Thoughts in the season, Thoughts on this last episode,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take a break and we'll come
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: back and talk all about Chatty Broad's with Becca and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Joe jess Um thoughts in the season, Thoughts in this episode. Um,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I think this season is a hot mess, but I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: love it, And um, I do really really love Peter.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really genuine guy and I feel
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: for him because I feel like it's going to just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: keep getting Messire. Who's your favorite? Do you have favorites
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: right now? I mean I thought I did, but at
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: this point people who weren't my favorites are starting to emerge,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: like Hannah and and God. I just hope McKenna gets
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a one on one next week. Give the girl a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: one on one? Okay, give the girl one. Uh. You know,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I love hate this season because I think it's um crazy.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: But it's also sometimes like this episode is really infuriating
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: for me to watch and kind of like triggering. When
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I was watching someone like Tammy was doing some gaslighting
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and Sydney was doing this whole deflecting thing, and it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: was just like frustrating. I wanted to be there and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: be like I don't want to see you be there
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to like, no, you need to be held accountable, owed
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: up to it. Like there's that kind of thing that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: just really grinded my gears and frustrated me. There's been
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of injustice this season that's really bothered me.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Uh that being if you're speaking in justice, I felt
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: like a Leah did, she's already gone. Um. And then
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: now I just feel like there's injustice with women staying
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: that I don't think should be staying, who are being
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: consistently rewarded for behavior that is bad, and uh yeah,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: so that's frustrating. And then I think I think that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm kind of wondering, like what if Hannah Ann
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: takes it all the way? I don't know. And then
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I see Madison being the bachelorette, so we are actually
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: totally unspoiled, but they're not really giving us now we
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: don't really know much about she will come back around
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: once all the drama's gone in like Top six. But
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: then then again, I don't know, because with all these
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: super teases looking super crazy, like at the very end,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: it seems maybe it's like one of the bad girls
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: goes all the way. I don't know, but I can't
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: wait to see. My opinion is that it's been a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: really good season from a viewers perspective because it's been
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: so dramatic. But I also don't think that Peter is
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: going to find his wife in this bunch, and if
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: he does, I think it might be it would be
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Maddie because yeah, yeah, because that's like I feel like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: he's been blinded by a lot of beauty, a lot
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: of sexuality. I don't know how deep he's getting with
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: some of these girls or he's being yeah yeah, I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: think he's getting like a little blinded by it. Out
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of all the bachelors to have to deal with this,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I do feel bad. I really to really think he
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: just wants his wife. I know, I really Webber. I know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I know Mrs Webber. I know he wants his Mrs Webber,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: And before this whole thing started, I knew he wanted that,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: and I do think that's why I think he's starting
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to catch up with it. But I really do think
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: he walked in this season naive. Um. He had a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: fairy tale, a fairy tale like perspective of what this
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: could be like he wanted everybody have such a good
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: time that he thought everybody's gonna get along and and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: that changed quickly. But hey, it is The Bachelor. Listeners, Um,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and we come back. Chatty
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Broad's Uh is a podcast that we've got to talk
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: about with two of our very special guests who just
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: broke down the whole episode with us. Thank you for that.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: We'll come back with Becca and Jess here in just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a second. Chatty Broad's with Becca and Jess is all
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: about balance. They chat all about The Bachelor, reality TV
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and spill the t half the week. The other half
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: of the week, they discussed topics transparently like sexuality, spirituality, relationships, motherhood,
• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:47
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• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: us about Chetty Broad's. First of all, you're such a
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: good mc ben, I know coming back, I know what
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a host I like. I'm like, you take all the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: intros and outros, so it at it. I wonder right
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: come back on The Bachelor that no wonder why he's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: hosting Bachelor Live. Yeah, seriously, I'm actually really curious about
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: how that's going. But enough about you, more about us.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: What was the question? So, like, tell us about this?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm we obviously just broke down the episode. You're
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: great at that, and we understand that about you too.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: You're gonna talk pop culture and all those I really
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: want to know about the sexuality, spirituality and relationships, mental
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: health part of this, the stuff that's real, the stuff
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: that your fans are listening to for an escape in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: a place to feel less alone. I imagine you to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: do that well, but I want to hear how you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: walk into those conversations and why you two as hosts
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: are worthy to be listened to honestly. I mean, I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: feel like I'll tell us, um, I do feel like
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Becka and I are really We've made a commitment to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: be as vulnerable as possible, Like you're going to get
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the honest opinion and the honest truth about both of us,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Like we're going to tell stories about ourselves that are
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: not flattering and we'll be honest about it. And I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: think as of that, we've been able to really connect
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: with our listeners on topics like sexuality. When we're having
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: a rough go, We'll talk about it on motherhood. We're
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: talking about how it's not easy, how it's tough. I've
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: shared a lot about some of my mental health struggles,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of our listeners have been
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: able to feel connected that way because they don't feel
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: alone hearing us talk about our struggles pretty openly, and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: also like a lot of the topics happened to be
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: topics that a lot of people can relate to. We
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: both come from super conservative evangelical backgrounds. Both of us
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: were home schooled at one point, and you know, it's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: something that we really connected on and talked a lot
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: through the podcast. And cooling about the podcast is that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: we've gotten to know each other while recording it, which
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: means that our listeners have joined in as we've developed
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: our friendship and have kind of been a part of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that friendship as it's evolved. But yeah, navigating that and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: just navigating the things we don't know, navigating UM, our
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: relationships with our respective husband and boyfriend, and navigating our
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: identity UM alongside personal identists, identity alongside motherhood, navigating our
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: belief systems, and then also it's like, you know, every
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: once in a while we'll have like a quote big guest,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the times people were having on
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: are just people that were interested in hearing from experts
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff that we're curious about, and even just some
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: of our listeners coming on to share their stories. And
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: so I think we've created a pretty cool, diverse community
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: in our little chatty broad's podcast world. That is so cool.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: And can I say how much you educate me back
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: on your Instagram is so good. I have become so
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: much more like environmentally mental. That started with the podcast
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Thank You Conscious. The podcast, we had a friend on
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: the podcast who was just really broke down a lot
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: of stuff that I had never even thought of, and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: that kind of kicked me off on my journey. But like,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: that's the cool thing about podcast that we are learning
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: so much and then get to share that with other people.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: So it's really inspired me personally, just us having the podcast,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: your compost pile and all the less trash you have
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: this week, I've been like, oh man, I can't I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: can't believe how much trash Jared and I accumulate as
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: just two people living in a house. Hey, but the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: awareness is like that's the first place, like once you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: start realizing it, then you know whether it's changed now
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  Speaker 1: or like two years from now, somebody start thinking about
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  Speaker 1: like even paper towels, like I'll like try to keep
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: one on the counter, Like if I just wipe something
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: up really quick and there it's totally not fully absorbed,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I'll just keep it there for the next time. I suppose.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: It's like small things like that. Once it starts coming
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: into you, awareness is so important. That's really cool. So
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: thanks Vecta for telling me. Yeah, I know you really
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: There's many things that I've learned from from your Instagram.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you, and which I knew came from the podcast,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: which is why I bring it up because those are
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the kind of things that I know you guys do
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: talk about the There's this interesting trend and I was
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: just speaking about it at a workshop I spoke at
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: this last week, and there's this trend in vulnerability that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: is coming out and it's awesome, right, I Mean, vulnerability
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: has been something that we've always claimed we've been a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: part of, but you know, we we're learning more and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: more what we've been suppressed by. And as a Christian myself,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I get the whole like I come from a conservative
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: evangelical upbring. I understand what you're saying when you talk
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: about that the sexuality part of this is really interesting.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: And the part of the workshop I was doing was
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: talking about this the new show on Netflix with the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow on the Goop and then UM where they
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: bring a bunch of women into the room UM and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: they all get naked, and the whole purpose of this
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: is to help everybody know that they're not alone. That
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: when they look at their bodies and they say, oh,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: this is a weird thing growing off of this, or
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: is you know, are my parts all looking like other
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: women's or if they don't look like other women's in
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: my abnormal or whatever that is. And they show this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: whole thing and it's beautiful because you have women for
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the first time and sometimes fifty sixty years breaking down
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: going I've always thought there was something wrong with me,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: and now I'm realizing that there never was. For you all,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I will send off with this. This has been something
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: like this is something I don't want to say'm passion
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: because it makes it sound like I'm an expert. I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: just like I listen to those stories and you want
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to break me down. Tell me somebody's sixty years old
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: and just finding themselves for the first time. How heavy
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: is that? And just like but also how beautiful is that?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: So thank you Um, Rebecca and Jess for chatting about
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: everything that matters and helping people feel less alone. I think,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: no matter what you're up bringing, no matter where you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: come from, what your religious belief system, no matter if
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: you believe in God or not. Uh, I personally believe
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: as a Christian that if we can feel less alone,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: we're doing something really right. Thank you, guys, appreciate that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you and Becca. We can't let you go without
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: talking about the fact that you're pregnant. Also, are so
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: real about pregnancy and all those struggles that go along
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: with it. You don't don't do like the whole like
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: it's like a mommy blogger thing where everything just seems
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I could be like that, but it
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: just doesn't work out for me. But everybody loves the real.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, so when you do, June, I feel
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: like I'm always pregnant. Now this is my new life.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost been two years since I've
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: been drunk, and I can't wait. So I've just been
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: aching to go out with her. But it's it's cool.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: It's a new season and one where I'm learning so
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: much about myself. And uh, I love a good challenge,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: so being a mom is pretty cool challenge. And uh,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just it's it's illuminated so many different
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: aspects of myself that I didn't know existed, and that's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: been really cool. And I'm gonna state right now where
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just very like chill and mellow and fine with
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: just being like a recluse and just I don't know.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a new aspect and dynamic of my
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: relation of my Yeah, I guess my relationship with myself
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: and my personality that I hadn't explored before. Um, as
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: somebody who will end up trying to get pregnant without
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: within the next twelve months, give me it's it can't
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: It's not that much of a secret. I'm during thirty
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: two next month. Do you have to come off? I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: gotta get off spirit of lack tone. I got it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I got something to help me so bad with my skin. Um,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later. Your whole podcast about pregnancy
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: skin on one of our other podcast my pregnancy skin
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: was horrible. Your skin looks amazing. Right now, give me
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: some words of encouragement because like so often I just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: get like so many people tell us to wait, Like
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: so many parents tell us like, well, you know, there's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: some people who are like, don't wait too long, because
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: you know you need like you know, the youth. But
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: then there's some a lot of people will come up
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, wait as long as you can,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and I'll be like, oh god, why why we welcome
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to l A. First of all, also, just and I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: both had unplanned pregnancies in very different scenarios. Her married
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: and on birth control getting pregn yeah, that's a whole
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: other that's a whole other story, swimmers, Yeah for sure.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, my storage is very different. But but
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: you tried this time. No I thought I was planned. Okay, No,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that's okay. You're a fertile woman. Nothing's planned in my
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: life anymore, you know what kind of But what we did,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we had had conversations about wanting to have
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: more children, and so it wasn't like like it just was.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: It was a different scenario and we're very excited and happy,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and it was very like, oh, well, we weren't expecting that,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: but how exciting. And I guess it's going to happen
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: now versus like a year or two from now. Um,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, people always have advice on
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: how you should do things, and don't listen to him. Okay,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I mean not to any of it. Take it with
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: a grain of salt for the people that care about
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you and have a lot of wisdom. But also, like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I think Jess can agree, I mean, it's such a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: cliche that there's no perfect time to be a parent,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: but there's no perfect time to be parents. You're never
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: going to know all the things, you're never going to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: be like in the perfect financial state, So it's not
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: as scary as people make it, saying no, not at all.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like the first week of finding
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: out that I was surprised pregnant, I cried for a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: week just because it wasn't it was just out of
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: my control, right and I'm a control freak, so that
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: like waged me out. Um. But just like Becca was saying,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: it just feels like like every individual is different, Every
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: pregnancy is different, every parenthood, like journey is different. So
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: when someone says a definitive. You know you should get
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: pregnant at this point, or that's too later, too early,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: or you should do this or that. It's just also
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you're being in a place where you're wanting to consider
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: make be so considerate and make the very best choice.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: That means that you're ready to parents, right And you're like,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I mean you see, I think you guys, Yeah, I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: do it always to hear all these kind of topics
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: more Jess and Becca, where can they find the Chetty
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  Speaker 1: all that, Jess, Becca, thank you for coming on our
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  Speaker 1: podcast today. It's almost famous podcast welcomes you, thanks for
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: everything you did for us and breaking down the episode. Listeners,
• 1:13:46
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  Speaker 1: when I say everywhere, I guess everywhere you can listen
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  Speaker 1: to podcast in The Bachelor Live on Stage is about
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  Speaker 1: We leave this week for Mesa, Arizona, Beca and I
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait to help sixty six bachelors find a connection
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• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: us guide him to handing out the final rows of
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  Speaker 1: may see a little special number that Becca and I
• 1:14:23
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• 1:14:34
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• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: as he calls them, donut a donut, he doesn't say donut,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: it's a donut. Big things to Becca and Jesser coming
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: on our podcast. Actually, you're right, they're really good at
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: breaking down the episode. Yes, they're great. That was fun.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. They have good perspective.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: They're also funny. Um, and I feel I feel like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Beca likes me now she does. That was definitely just
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: like that's her just being honest and like, you know,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: that's like what I wish we could do more of
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: it is and be like we could talk a little smack,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: but like we don't mean it in our hearts, you know,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: we we mean it like as far as like just
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you know, that was a big out there. I just
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: mean a new friend today and you heard it. It
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: was nice. It makes me I'm gonna bet it rest
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: and easy and night. Do you want to go through
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: some emails? Yeah, let's do it. There's like you want
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: to address. Yeah, I think it's funny. Right, let's do
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: the one email here? Um, it's from Natalie. It's called
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: TikTok shays I became famous on TikTok because of you
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: when she says you mean you mean you really? Yeah?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I think so. This has thirty five thousand views in
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: two hours, So thank you for letting me know. Peter
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: was in a commercial. Oh it was me. I love
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: you guys both and listening to your insight on all
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: the Batchelor episodes. Hey Natalie, Hey, fame, fame is a
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: is a burden not worthy to be carried, but we're
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: glad that you're carrying it for a bit. Um. Thanks
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: for sending us an email. Actually, this has been a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: fun podcast. It's here's how I want to close this though. Okay, okay,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: what and I said at the beginning, but I want
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: to put a little emphasis on this. This season has
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: not been that fun for me. It's more it has
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: been more fun past bachelor seasons that I can like,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you know that I've we've been a part of, We've
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: talked very openly about it's been years since we've really
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: been able to get into a bachelor's season. We can
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: necessarily figure out why this season kind of felt like that.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: But this week and I get where there's you know,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: this episode five was so big. I can't wait for
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: this next big episode to come out. This week was
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: the first week where I'm on the edge of my
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: seat going I cannot wait to watch more. Yeah, I'd
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: love me wanting more so much more that I don't
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: mind that we have another two hours this week Wednesday night,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: there will be another episode of the Bachelor, and we
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: will be here right after the show, so you know
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Um, it's wait, it's eleven o'clock if you
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: want to listen to and after the episode airs, we
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: will be here talking about it on Wednesday late night.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a late night. Hey. Actually, one question
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: we haven't done yet this year, and I think it's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: time to start doing it. We started with Colton about
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: this week, and we're gonna start with Peter about this week.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: A scale of A to F. What are you rating
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Pete as the Bachelor? That's This involves performance, This involves
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: um liability, It involves handling of controversy, This involved just
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: swag like everything as a bachelor. When you look at him,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: F you gave him a B plus a couple of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think that was like week to Um.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I think that he's a bee because I agree. I
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: think that he like has the potential of being an
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: a and he's like everything that a girl probably wants.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: But I just think it's the way that he's like
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: not realizing that so many of his moves create more drama. Yeah,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the one thing I give him a be on and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think he can go much farther than be
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and this is why, in my opinion, like he's always
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: going to be likable, like we're always going to cheer
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: for him, unlike some past Batchelors who have been like, oh,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: this is just annoying to watch him, Like this is
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: just terrible, Like he's driving me up the wall. He's like,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: there's been no points this season that I've watched Peter
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: and been like I just don't like that guy. Oh yeah,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: there's like nothing unlikable about him. He's so likable. He's likable. Yeah, hey,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: we'll stick with a beef right now. I have a
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: feeling he'll go up in our page. Ashley, You're great,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. We're talking like a day. It feels
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: like two days after another three hour episode of the Bachelor.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: With that, I've been been, I've been Ashley by guys.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: See you Wednesday night. Follow the Benn and Ashley I
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