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Ohio State vs Michigan Preview LIVE: Countdown To The Game · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to a very special live episode of
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Saturday, November thirtieth. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Moore. The game against Michigan is today. It's the
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  Speaker 1: only day all year that I really don't even have
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  Speaker 1: to think about it. I know what day the Michigan
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  Speaker 1: game is. I know how many days there are coming
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  Speaker 1: to it. We are just hours away from kickoff of
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes and the Michigan Wolverines. Joined by
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman of Buckeyeheddle dot com. Tony, this is the
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  Speaker 1: day we spend all year counting down to. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: even looked yet. I will have to look tomorrow to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. Okay, how many days is it till the
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  Speaker 1: next Ohio State Michigan game? But man, Oman, it's after
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  Speaker 1: saying three hundred and sixty whatever last year, it's nice
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  Speaker 1: that it is finally, finally, finally here, Tom.
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  Speaker 2: You say you'll have to look tomorrow, don't you mean today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the show that's for Sunday, So no, that'd
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  Speaker 1: be tomorrow, Tony.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's after the game is done. And then you're like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if three hundred and sixty or whatever, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, wow, that seems like forever, But it seems
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  Speaker 2: like yesterday we were in Ann Arbor and preparing for
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  Speaker 2: that game and picking against the Buckeyes in that game
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  Speaker 2: and getting some grief for it. But I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't keep accounts of things like that, Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember stuff like that. I just let it brush over
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  Speaker 2: me and I move on the hurt forwards. The hateful
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  Speaker 2: comments doesn't bother me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, and we're there are people out
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  Speaker 1: there who feel like you need to be stroked and
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  Speaker 1: petted and told that everything is going to be great
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  Speaker 1: at all times. And that's not what we do. If
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  Speaker 1: you want that, that's out there. But if we think
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State's gonna lose, we'll tell you we think Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State's gonna lose. If we think that there's something wrong,
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  Speaker 1: we'll tell you that something wrong. If we think that
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  Speaker 1: something's right, we'll tell you something's right. And hopefully by
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  Speaker 1: this point you have figured out like, hey, we we'll
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  Speaker 1: shoot you straight, and sometimes we're right and sometimes we're wrong. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what we think, Tony. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: neither of us is going to pick against Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: this year. I think that this might be a year
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  Speaker 1: when the Buckeyes set things set things back headed in
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  Speaker 1: their direction.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the buck guys are ten to one this year
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  Speaker 2: when I picked them to win, So you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: they're doing well enough, and at this point, there's no
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  Speaker 2: reason to pick them to lose this game other than
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  Speaker 2: fear and loathing in Columbus basically. And you know, and
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  Speaker 2: we've both experienced upset wins by Michigan in this series.
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  Speaker 2: But as we'll talk about throughout the show, so many
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  Speaker 2: things would have to happen for that to happen. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying it can't, because we know crazy things happen
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  Speaker 2: in this series, but it would take more than one
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  Speaker 2: crazy thing. It would take several crazy things to happen,
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  Speaker 2: and then to capitalize on those things. So, yeah, we've
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  Speaker 2: already got our staff picks out there, so you can
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  Speaker 2: check that out at bucke Huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll run through those probably later in the show.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, one of the things that would have
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  Speaker 1: to go right for Michigan in order to pick up
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  Speaker 1: an upset here is you probably have to not have
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  Speaker 1: two of your best players out and you know, right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's at least at least safe to say that the
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  Speaker 1: status of Will Johnson cornerback and Colson Loveland tight end
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  Speaker 1: is up in the air. There have been reports from
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  Speaker 1: people who generally are right about this kind of things,
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  Speaker 1: including Pete Dammel, that Will Johnson is out for the year.
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  Speaker 1: That's a turf toe thing, and that's not I've seen
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  Speaker 1: people calling it a stub toe, like, no, that's not
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  Speaker 1: That's not what it means at all. Turf Toe is
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  Speaker 1: actually pretty painful and has caused a number of players
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  Speaker 1: to be out for an extended period of time. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, Will Johnson is not ducking Jeremiah Smith, if
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's not. He's not out with a hangnail
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  Speaker 1: like it's if he misses the game, it's a fairly
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  Speaker 1: substantial injury. Loveland is a different issue. We've you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have that in a reportable format, but we
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  Speaker 1: have a sense for what the injury is and his
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  Speaker 1: status might be a little more legitimately up in the
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  Speaker 1: air right now. There was someone on our board who
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  Speaker 1: put out what we had been hearing, So if you
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  Speaker 1: want to go find out what we're hearing, or one
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  Speaker 1: of our members through that out there as a on
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  Speaker 1: the on a thread on our board at Buckeheele dot com.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Tony, if Colston Lovelin doesn't go, how
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  Speaker 1: much you know to to Austin's question here, how much
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  Speaker 1: is that different point differential worth for them? Do not
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  Speaker 1: have Will Jones and and not have Colston Lovelin in
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  Speaker 1: that game?
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  Speaker 2: Well, and people think of Colston Coulston Lovelin as you know,
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  Speaker 2: this all American tight end, but he's also their best
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  Speaker 2: outside wide receiver and that's where they would use him
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  Speaker 2: a lot as matched ab outside like an X receiver
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  Speaker 2: and use him to move the chains. And without him,
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  Speaker 2: they've lost their if he's not playing, or he's not
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent or what have you. Like, he is
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  Speaker 2: their best wide receiver. He is also their best tight end.
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  Speaker 2: He is their best passing threat. So when he is
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  Speaker 2: out there, you're able to then use Marlon Klein at
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  Speaker 2: tight end, who's a very good tight end in his
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  Speaker 2: own right. When he's not, then you lose that ability
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  Speaker 2: to have I don't want to say a mismatch against
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  Speaker 2: a corner, but a maybe a favorable matchup or a
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  Speaker 2: matchup that you can win against the corner because there
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  Speaker 2: are other receivers, aren't that they they they don't have
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  Speaker 2: his size, his strength, that maybe the fear factor that
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  Speaker 2: he provides. So if he's not able to go, that's
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  Speaker 2: a that's a huge loss. But you know, even even
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  Speaker 2: if he's not there, there's still it's still a short
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  Speaker 2: passing game. So it still comes down to tackling and covering.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we we saw how the Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: defensive line got after Curtis Work last week. I do
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  Speaker 2: you expect Michigan to hold the ball as long as
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  Speaker 2: Curtis Work did, because they don't. They don't need don't
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  Speaker 2: even look downfield, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: No, they don't. It is a get the ball out
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  Speaker 1: quickly kind of thing. And so I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm expecting a ton of sacks. I'm expecting buck Eyes
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  Speaker 1: in the backfield, and I think that might be an
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  Speaker 1: issue in the run game to a certain degree more
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  Speaker 1: than in the past game. If you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. If Ohiate picks up a bunch of sacks,
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  Speaker 1: that's you know, obviously good news for the buck Eyes.
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  Speaker 1: If the buck Eyes don't pick up a bunch of sacks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that tells me anything other than
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  Speaker 1: Michigan's getting the ball out. It just doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 1: it feels like it feels like how many passes. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've been charting it all year, I mean, what what percentage?
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  Speaker 1: And you don't have to have the exact number, but
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  Speaker 1: it feels like, what fifty percent of Davis Warren's passes
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  Speaker 1: have been behind the line of scrimmage and another about
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  Speaker 1: thirty percent have been about three yards downfield? Like this
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  Speaker 1: is not a lot of this is not an offensive
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  Speaker 1: relies on double moves. It's just if they're going to
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  Speaker 1: take a shot downfield, they'll run a flea flicker or something.
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  Speaker 1: It just it's just not that complicated.
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  Speaker 2: How often do we even see them just drop back
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  Speaker 2: and throw deep. You don't see it, and I would
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  Speaker 2: expect to see it this week, just because do you
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  Speaker 2: need to change up some tendencies by the time. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if anybody else saw this, because I tweet I was
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  Speaker 2: tweeting about Michigan sack numbers off. So I tweeted this
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  Speaker 2: last night, and I think I wrote it on the
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  Speaker 2: border I also posted it on Twitter. But so Michigan
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  Speaker 2: has been sacked. Their quarterbacks have been sacked fifteen times
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  Speaker 2: this season. On those two of those sacks came on
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  Speaker 2: the same drive against Illinois. Of those fourteen drives, Michigan
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  Speaker 2: scored one touchdown, so and that came against Arkansas State.
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  Speaker 2: So they've only scored three points on I think, let
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  Speaker 2: me see here, one, two, three, four, I think twelve
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  Speaker 2: twelve sacks against Power four opponents. They've scored three points
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  Speaker 2: and that was the fifty six yard field goal last
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  Speaker 2: week against Northwestern on a drive where they have given
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  Speaker 2: up a sack. And they've only converted two first downs
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  Speaker 2: on drives where they've given up a sack against Power
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  Speaker 2: four opponents, and both of those came on the same
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  Speaker 2: drive against Illinois and a drive that ended in an interception.
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  Speaker 2: So if they can get to Davis Warren, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's generally that's the end of the drive. Because they can't.
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  Speaker 2: They can't. It's hard enough for them to get ten
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  Speaker 2: yards on three plays. For them to have to get sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: that's a bridge too far. And then especially you know
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  Speaker 2: most of these are either third down or first down,
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  Speaker 2: and so the first down sacks. They've got a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more time to get it done. But man, if
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  Speaker 2: you get to Davis Warren, this offense is done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you get Michigan off schedule, they are really
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  Speaker 1: in trouble because the run game relies on just sort
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  Speaker 1: of hammering it ahead at three yards of pop. And
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  Speaker 1: if they break a tackle, if you can, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you get someone who misses a tackle, then sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can turn three yards into fifteen or six yards
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  Speaker 1: into thirty or something like that. And you're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: for Michigan to move the ball. They're gonna need Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State to miss tackles. They're gonna need some of those
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  Speaker 1: three yard runs to turn into twelve yard runs and
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  Speaker 1: the six yard runs to turn into thirty five yard
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  Speaker 1: runs because they can. They don't have the passing game
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  Speaker 1: to be able to just sort of methodically go down
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  Speaker 1: the field. They don't complete eighty percent of their passes
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  Speaker 1: like Will Howard does more or less every game. It's
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  Speaker 1: very very hit or miss. And if you get Davis
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  Speaker 1: Warren where he's got to throw the ball downfield, he
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  Speaker 1: misses high a lot. Those are balls to get tipped,
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  Speaker 1: those are balls to get picked off. It hasn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: happened a lot against them this season, but generally, if
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  Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball down the middle and it gets tipped,
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  Speaker 1: that's a ball where everyone in the stadium is holding
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  Speaker 1: their breath, so you're setting yourself up for big trouble.
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  Speaker 1: You get pressure on him, he throws off his back foot,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't step into it. A lot of those balls
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  Speaker 1: sail high. There's just a lot of bad things, you
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  Speaker 1: know the old Woody Hayes three things that can happen
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  Speaker 1: when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's especially true for Michigan. And the third thing is
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  Speaker 1: generally they complete at three yards downfield and then maybe
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  Speaker 1: something good happens after that, but not necessarily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just not a lot of I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: mostly yards after the catch, but even then, it's still
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of yards after the catch, and just
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  Speaker 2: the idea of stepping up and throwing twenty five yards
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  Speaker 2: downfield on a deep end or anything like that, it's
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  Speaker 2: just not what they do. The longest throws of the
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  Speaker 2: season have generally been on scramble plays where routes are
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  Speaker 2: being broken off, and then Davis Warren or Jack Tuttle
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  Speaker 2: back in the day would find somebody open downfield and
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  Speaker 2: that's where they would get some big chunks. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see that that's possible for sure, because Davis
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  Speaker 2: Warren can escape a little bit. But it comes down
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  Speaker 2: to the defense being very, very disciplined, and if they're disciplined,
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  Speaker 2: then I think they should be able to handle the
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  Speaker 2: play after the play basically, once things break down, just
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  Speaker 2: be ready for that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the Ohio State run game,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like the Ohio State run game, what
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  Speaker 1: the what they're able to do in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be the single biggest determinant
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  Speaker 1: in terms of what that game know, what comes out
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  Speaker 1: the battle between the Ohio State offensive line the Michigan
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  Speaker 1: defensive line. That feels like that's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: single biggest determinant in terms of is this a big
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State win, a small Ohio State win, or a
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  Speaker 1: Michigan win. So much of that comes down to can
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State run the ball enough three and a half
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  Speaker 1: four yards of carry? Can Ohio State pass protect Will
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  Speaker 1: Howard enough to let him get the ball out? Because
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't want to just dink and dunk and
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  Speaker 1: have Will Howard get the ball out. In the second
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  Speaker 1: and a half, they want to run some stuff least
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  Speaker 1: mid range. You're not bombs away all the time, but
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  Speaker 1: they want to be able to use that effective mid
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  Speaker 1: range passing game. So much of that comes down not
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  Speaker 1: to how the Michigan defensive backs matchup against the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State wide receivers, but how the Michigan defensive lineman matchup
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  Speaker 1: against the Ohio State offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would expect it to be slowed growing
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  Speaker 2: early on, and then maybe Ohio State grows and grows
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  Speaker 2: and grows over the course of the game, where maybe
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing in the second half is the yard better.
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  Speaker 2: Your yard are two better than what you did in
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  Speaker 2: the first half, and your adjustments that you make at
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  Speaker 2: halftime for the third quarter start showing more and more.
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  Speaker 2: I just wonder if at the start of the game
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  Speaker 2: they're just going to see how soft is this Michigan middle,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be like, I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be soft. So you might want to try not to
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  Speaker 2: do that. Unless you're looking to get some putting action going.
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  Speaker 2: You might want to stay away from between the tackle
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  Speaker 2: stuff against the defensive front there. But if Michigan does
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  Speaker 2: have trouble stopping the run, and I keep going back
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  Speaker 2: to the three game stretch against like Oregon and Michigan
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  Speaker 2: State and Illinois, where Michigan gave up Abou about one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five yards rushing a game. If O
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  Speaker 2: hire States at one hundred and seventy five yards, that's
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  Speaker 2: what they've been in the few games recently where they've
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  Speaker 2: run the ball well enough and the possessions have been
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  Speaker 2: shorter and the number of snaps have been lower. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not expecting like a two hundred and fifty yard
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  Speaker 2: day would require so many carries. They almost wouldn't have enough.
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  Speaker 2: They barely have enough snaps to do that if they
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  Speaker 2: ran it just every single time. So you know, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five yards, If they can do that
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  Speaker 2: and that's you know, the four and a half five
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  Speaker 2: yards of carry, I think that's a comfortable win for them.
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  Speaker 2: But I still think I'm expecting at least one big
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  Speaker 2: hit in there from a Trevion Henderson to maybe fudge
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  Speaker 2: some of those numbers. But it's all of the other numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's the the other twenty seven carries, you know,
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  Speaker 2: are you are you getting fifty four yards out of them?
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  Speaker 2: Or are you getting one hundred and twenty?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the mood is the median carry the average.
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  Speaker 1: When you're talking about the averages, everyone always talks about
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  Speaker 1: the mean, which is just take them all and divide
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  Speaker 1: them up by the number of carries that can be
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  Speaker 1: skewed by the one fifty yard er or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: If the median number, which is just the middle number
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  Speaker 1: in there, if that's a three, If the median numbers
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  Speaker 1: are three and they're getting three or more on half
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  Speaker 1: of their carries, they're probably in pretty decent shape. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's another number that we typically get in the box
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  Speaker 1: of or but we can calculate that after if we
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  Speaker 1: want to. But yeah, it's a it's a spot where
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  Speaker 1: if it's just consistency, it's just can they stay on schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Staying on schedule is just get four yards on first down,
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  Speaker 1: get half of what you need on second down, and
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  Speaker 1: get it on third down. If you just stay on schedule,
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  Speaker 1: then you're probably fine. You're probably you know, you're probably
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  Speaker 1: moving the chains because they Ohio State doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: do it. All on the ground. They have to do
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  Speaker 1: enough on the ground to hold Michigan honest. To keep
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  Speaker 1: Michigan honest, if Michigan has to run the ball on
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  Speaker 1: the ground because they can't consistently throw the ball, the
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  Speaker 1: Michigan has to be able to run the ball. Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State could win the game without running the ball. That
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  Speaker 1: is not typically how these games have gone. But typically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Ohio State is just running a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: they can hit the big place to the air. Because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they need to get you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is not a game where you need to get forty points.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know this is a game where you need
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  Speaker 1: to get thirty points to win. What's the what's the
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  Speaker 1: magic number in your mind, Tony, Do they have to
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  Speaker 1: get twenty one, twenty four, twenty eight, thirty one? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the number? Where If all I tell you is
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  Speaker 1: this is Ohio State's final score, you go, I bet
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  Speaker 1: they won.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say twenty one would be a four or five
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  Speaker 2: point win in there. I would feel comfortable that Michigan
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to score three touchdowns in this game. I
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  Speaker 2: just they would require a lot of help. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of this is just Ohio State first, doing no
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  Speaker 2: harm to themselves and doing what they can, and there
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  Speaker 2: will be mistakes, but both teams will make mistakes in
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  Speaker 2: this one. Ohio State just can't help Michigan along. If
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  Speaker 2: Michigan gets no help, as I've been saying all season long,
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  Speaker 2: they will lose. And if Ohio State does not help
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  Speaker 2: them in this one, they will lose badly. So how
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  Speaker 2: much does Ohio State help them? How many short fields?
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  Speaker 2: They scored fifty points last week? Only one of those
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  Speaker 2: drives against Northwestern for Michigan was over sixty five yards,
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  Speaker 2: So make them move the ball seventy five yards and
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  Speaker 2: you'll find out that it's not that easy for him.
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  Speaker 2: Will Michigan move the ball seventy five yards on their
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  Speaker 2: first drive? Maybe it tends to happen against this Ohio
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: State defense. Will they move the ball seventy five yards
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: for the next eight drives total? Perhaps? I mean we've
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: seen that as well also, where things get shut down
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: at once, that script runs out for the opponent, and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: then they have to react on the fly and deal
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: with what Ohio State's doing. And Ohio State starts to
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: dictate stuff, it's a lot more difficult for offenses. So yeah,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I think if Michigan can get out to a fast start,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: but then they have to withstand it. We saw Penn
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Stake get out to a fast start ten nothing at
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: home and couldn't hold it. What was it? Was it
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen when Michigan get out
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: to a fourteen nothing start in this game and couldn't
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: hold on to it? So twenty seventeen maybe.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: What year is that? Yeah, twenty seven, twenty seventeen. Can
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: you hear me by the way I got you? Okay?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: And it sound a little bit a little bit better.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It just time better everybody, now you're muted.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Well this is what you got. So hopefully
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: hopefully it works because that's it. I'm not changing it anymore.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So hopefully this works better for you. Yeah, yeah, it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you have seen Ohio State, you know, Michigan. If Michigan
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: falls behind fourteen nothing, game is over. Drive home safe.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: If Ohio State is down fourteen nothing, They've done it
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: before on the road. They've been you know that. They
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: were like, as you said, down ten at Penn State,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and they were down ten at Penn State, and it
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: was fourteen ten Ohio State before you could blink, it
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: was they just were right back. It was just well,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you know, all right, well that was unfortunate and now
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and now you're back on top. And then that was
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: really functionally it for the game for the most part.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, twenty fourteen nothing in twenty seventeen there you go.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was a game where Ohio State
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: had lost its quarterback.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: That no.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I think that that's that's one of the more forgotten
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Ohio State games because twenty sixteen you have the double overtime.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen you have the sixty two points and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the cross olave punt block and all that kind of stuff.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen was just kind of like oh and also
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: they won that year and that was it was a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: year where it wasn't a particularly great game, but it
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was one of those games where Ohis to just sort
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of grounded out in one on the road. So that's yeah,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that's a you know, it's certainly certainly a possibility that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: we will see Ohio State having to come back tomorrow,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: but I very much doubt that Michigan is going to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: be able to dig dig out of a hole without
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a defensive score or a special team score or something
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like that. It's funny we talked about special teams like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: three weeks ago as a boy. It's a shame Ohio
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: State doesn't even try on special teams anymore and hasn't
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: for multiple years because you just haven't seen anything positive
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: on special teams for years and years and years. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: then they block a punt against was that against They've
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: blocked upon against Purdue? And then they had a dropped
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: snap which they turned into a block punt against Northwestern,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And then they had another drop snap which they turned
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: into a big tackle for loss against against Indiana last week. Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: so you have three straight weeks in which they've given
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the offense the ball inside the What like, did they
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: score touchdown on the block punt against Perdue or did
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: they set themselves up with a short field.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: The one that was out at the one?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one at Northwestern. Northwestern was the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: one that was the one unless Yeah, I don't remember.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: They might have scored a touchdown against Perdue. But either way,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it's you've all of a sudden had three enormous plays
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: on special teams, and you also had the Caleb downs
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown. We've seen special teams swing
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: games in this series before. Is that something you're looking
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Well, you know we saw Chrystal Lave do it in
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen as a true freshman block in a punt.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: We remember the two touchdown catches, but getting that punt
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: block in there, I think that's another way that Michigan
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: can make an impact in this one. The the percentage
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: of when you block a punt and score on it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: is like ninety percent win percentage. So if Michigan wants
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to even things out, that would be one way to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: get it done. Will we see some fake punts that
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we have seen or attempted to see in this series
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that would have perhaps changed some things that I With
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Michigan already securing bull bid, there's nothing that they can't
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: do that should surprise anybody. They should pull out every
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: single stop that they have, go all guns blazing at
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: all times and see what happens. It should just be
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: whatever they've got, whatever they thought, you know what, let's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: try this. Every single nap can play that they've drawn up.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: They should be looking at this week and saying, what
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: would Ohio State not expect because what you can't do
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: is just do what you've been doing all year long,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: because that's not good enough and it won't be good enough.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You need more, You need something different, You need the
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: element of surprise. We talk about, well, what wrinkles are
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they saving? This game needs to be entire wrinkles for Michigan.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: This needs to be a fat, fluffy, wrinkled dog that
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: just you know, is just all wrinkles and then maybe boom,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: here comes klau Mullings for sixty yards.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a game where every time Michigan lines
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: up per kickoff, you have to assume it's going to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: be an on side kake attempts like like what Oregon did,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: just try and steal a possession in the middle of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the game somewhere. Every time Michigan lines up for a punt,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you have to assume it's going to be a fake punt.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: The only thing I wouldn't expect is dominic z Evada.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Michigan's field goal kicker is so good he's automatic from
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: basically anywhere inside of about fifty five. So that's the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: only place I wouldn't necessarily expect it, Which means, therefore,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: if they're supposed to do it where no one's expecting it, Well,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: then maybe it is going to be a fake field call.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: It just feels like this is a kitchen sink game
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: because what do they have? What do they have left
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this season? You're going to play in a who cares?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, a who Cares Bowl game is sponsored by
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: nobody dot biz and that's so you know, if they
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: win that game, great whatever. That doesn't do it, that
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any impact on them at all. I think
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: back to the twenty thirteen season where Michigan plays Ohio
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: State and runs the most telegraphed two point conversion play
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to try and win the game in the final minute
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and they gets picked off by Tyvas Powell to seal
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a one point win for Ohio State. And then Michigan
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: in their bowl game, which was the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: which was it's like the Junior Varsity Fiesta Bowl, which
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: later was the cheese At Bowl and now is the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the Arizona Bowl or something. It's it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the one that's played in the Diamondbacks Stadium and they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: were playing Kansas State and they were down like thirty
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: eight seven or something in the fourth quarter of that
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: bowl game and they ran it was like the Philly
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Special or something on a two point conversion when they
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: had scored to make it like thirty eight to thirteen
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the final minute of a Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and they ran the Philly Special. Then, like it doesn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: do you any good to save it for then, like,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you throw it all out against Ohio State this weekend,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, what's the worst thing that happens. You're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: gonna lose by three touchdowns if it doesn't work. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: guess what if you don't do it and you just
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: try and play it straight up, You're probably gonna lose
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: by about three touchdowns to Ohio State this weekend. So
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you might as well shoot your shot and you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: take the proverbial puncher's chance.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Ohio State was favored by sixteen in that game.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: By the way, for in twenty thirteen.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen, and it went down to the final score,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and that one was a shootout. Devin Gardner threw for
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: what almost four hundred yards or so and was ununstoppable
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: force in that game after being very stoppable against other
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: defenses that year. But yeah, that one was That one
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was an interesting one. I don't know how often Urban
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: actually covered against against Michigan, because they didn't do it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen either when they were yeah, twenty one
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: point favorites, they went forty two.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Didn't they win forty two twenty or was it forty
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: two twenty eight that year?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Forty two twenty eight? And okay, both both of those
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: games thirteen and fourteen, the games were tired at the half.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, Michigan was up I believe twenty one
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: twenty at the half. Twenty fifteen, Ohio State was up
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: fourteen ten at the half one forty two to thirteen.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen, Ohio State was down ten seven at the half.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen was fourteen fourteen at the half, twenty eighteen
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: was twenty four nineteen at the half for the Buckeyes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, Ryan Day finally steps in. He's like, Urban,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to show you how to win and win
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: comfortably at the half, twenty eight sixteen at the half,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and then of course twenty twenty at the half. Michigan
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was having a donuts and coffee twenty twenty one. Last
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Ohio State trailed fourteen thirteen at the half.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, Ohio State led twenty to seventeen the half,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and then last year Ohio State trailed fourteen ten at
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the half. Only once in the last ten plus years
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: has this been more than a one score game at
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the half. So I don't care what Ohio State is
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: favored by. They've been favored by a bunch before, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to matter in the first half, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't matter in the second half. So if
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: this is thirteen ten at the half tomorrow one way
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: or the other, thirteen thirteen, that's the way it goes. Man.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because it doesn't feel like that because
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: there's been a bunch of years when they've won by
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a million. I mean twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen was that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was the year that they had. It was like they
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: gave up two scores and in like eight seconds or
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: something like that, right at the end of the first half,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Michigan scored a touchdown and then was it to Mario
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: recall muff to kickoff or something like that, and Michigan
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: immediately got the ball and scored again. It was like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Ohio Stated dominated the first half, and then Michigan scored
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: fourteen points in ten second or something like that, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it was just like, oh boy, here we go again,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: because that was the year that was a good Michigan team.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Everyone now looks back and goes, that was the Michigan
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: team that gave up sixty two to Ohio State. It
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but up until that point, it was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: boy that this Michigan team is really good. Boy, this
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Michigan team is thumping everyone. This is this is a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you know, this is this team's the real deal. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Ohiostate gets out to a huge lead in the first
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: half and then just craps it away in the span
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of fifteen seconds, and it was like, oh boy. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: then they they had plenty more for the second half,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so it worked out okay, But yeah, twenty twenty two.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I go back to twenty twenty two. There were moments
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: where it looked like Ohio State was gonna run Michigan
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: out of the stadium in the first half, and it
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: just never quite happened. And you know, there's some context
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: around that game that we were not aware of at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the time, but it was one of those you know, boy,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: if you have a chance to step on someone's throat.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: You should step on their throat to put them you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: put the game away and not leave it into the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: second half. But well, you know, that's that's some interesting
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: interesting context there for folks. So maybe if it is
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a game into the second half, maybe this is just
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: kind of how these games go. Hang on. I had
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a couple I had a couple of things I wanted
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to get to real quick.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You real quick. That twenty twenty two game, Ohio State
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: had three hundred and fifteen yards of total offense at
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that half.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were going up and down the field on Michigan.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And then the second half it just it was like
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a switch flipped and yeah, well they had three hundred
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: yards of total offense in the first half. How many
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: points did they have twenty twenty? Yeah, that was one
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: where they it felt like they could have had twenty
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: eight or thirty one or something like that, and they
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: did and it was like, well, they're still winning, so
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: as long as as long as nothing changes in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: second half. And then something changed in the second half.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So that was you know, we have seen missed opportunities overcome,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and we have seen missed opportunities come back to haunt
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you in this series over the years. Jordan Kaplas says, Tony,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: can you do me a favorite and hide Tom's gloves
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Let me tell you, friends, I was just outside.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I just took the dog to go run around a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: little bit, and I just I just went outside in
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: a sweatshirt. I was outside for maybe twenty minutes or so.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you it is brisk outside right now.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I am not someone who gets cold very easily. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I did not have gloves on, I didn't have a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: hat on. I was cold after about twenty minutes, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it was The real field temperature is something like twenty
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: degrees right now, like the wind chill where you know
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's snowing just a little bit, but it's thirty maybe
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: degrees high twenties and some wind, and boy, it is cold.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And this is about what it's supposed to be about
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: this time tomorrow. So the morning real field temperature I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: looked up, by the time we're looking at getting to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the stadium on Saturday morning, toning, the real field temperature
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: is nine degrees and it's going to get all the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: way up to about twenty four during the end of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the game. So it's going to be cold, So yes,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: we're layers. If you're going to the game, gloves, those
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: little hand warmers would probably be a good idea. Throw
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a couple in your in your shoes. You don't need
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to worry about it, Tony, you'll be at the nice
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: toasty breast box. But for those of us, for those
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of us toughing it out in the elephants, Tony, it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be. It might be. It might be a multiple
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: pair of gloves day.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: They might try to crack the window, so I might
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I might need some handwarmers, if you have any spare
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: gloves or spare spare I did go around, like where
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: are my gloves? Where is my stocking hat?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And so I did find everything. And I'll have my
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: my spring jacket and my fall jacket and I'll combine
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: them into my winter coat. And I will be cold.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, walking from the car to the stadium,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I should manage. And if I don't remember me.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's not that it's not that far of a walk.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: How often have we seen any of the was will
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Howard Warren gloves yet this year? And I should go
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: back and look at the the game last year? Did
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: he wear gloves in the Iowa State game, in that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: snow game.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: That I don't remember. It just it hasn't been that
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: cold at any of these games. I mean last last weekend,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were wearing coats down on the sidelining.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Someone looked at me and gory, aren't you cold? And
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I just had a T shirt and a sweatshirt on,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and it was It's fine. I wasn't that. It was
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: probably forty something like that. This is this is gonna
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: be the coldest it's been in Columbus all season. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that's you know, this is a temperature that feels completely
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: fine in February once you're sort of acclimated to it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: When you're not, it's gonna feel pretty chilly. It's uh,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: this is probably going to be the coldest Ohio State
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Michigan game, probably just because it's last year. It was cold,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: but it was sunny so it warmed up. But during
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the course of the game it was you know, it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was in the twenties in the morning, I remember. But
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you know, this is this is gonna be overcast and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: probably a little bit of breeze. Not gale force wins
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: or anything, but it's gonna be it's gonna be cold
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: enough that it'll it'll probably impact some things in the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: passing game, at least a little bit. Probably won't feel
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: great to get hit either.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: No gloves for Will Howard is, I'm all right looking
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: at the game last year in the snow, about a
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: year ago today, no gloves, all bare hands. He's fine,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: short sleeves, it's snow and it's cold.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: He did, okay, Warpok says, bets on whether there will
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: be Buckeye fans with no shirts on. That's that Vegas
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: has taken that one off the board. The answer is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: obviously yes, not not even a question.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Zero points for that bold prediction. These are still college kids, right,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, act like Robert Howard says, Wait, you'll be my prayers, Tony.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Way to be a hero for your loyal fewers. Listen,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: if there's a little bit of a breeze coming through,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: it's only going to like average out the fact they've
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: got the heaters cranked a little too hot. They'll probably
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: cut in a nap time a little bit in the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: press box. But that's it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That's uh well, And here here's the thing, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: with the with the smoothies. Is it going to be
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: too cold for a smoothie do for the And I'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: not a coffee person, so uh an iced drink will
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: make things even colder. So then you know, you got
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to think, you know, what should I do here? What
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: should I do here? And then you just maybe I'll
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: put a coat on and have a diet coke.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds wonderfully refreshing. Yes, And there there
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: was a question at Halvor once and it wasn't twenty
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: eighteen the revenge Tour. Yes, it was. It was until
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. That was that was That was definitely the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: narrative coming in and I remember doing pregame shows about
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that and you know, boy, this is this Michigan team
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and you know, ken Ohio State hold them off, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: then it was just that was that was a decided
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: schematic advantage game for Ohio State, no question where Don
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Brown wanted to blitz and play man coverage and Ohio
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: State went, okay, let me introduce you to my friend
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Mesh and and they lived happily ever after. Here's here's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: an interesting one from Robert prediction Michigan on a forward
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: pass with four different players barely forward but forward. So
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a forward pass with four different players, now, that's that
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to me. Davis Warren's again, yep, alex Org is almost
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: certainly a given. I got one running back getting to
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: another one, you know, I mean we've seen throw. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: well the double pass, only one can be forwards. Only
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: one is going to be you know one.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: All right, But I'm saying, don't look for another running
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: back to do it. Look for one of the receivers.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Because they throw, there's some wide screens. Maybe then they'll
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: try to mask it that way. So yeah, that's that's
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a pretty good one. I like that one, and it
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't I mean, I don't know how often you have
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to go back to see four quarterbacks throw a pass
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: in the game for Michigan. I know, I think I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: did this a while back for Ohio State in terms
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of maybe touchdown passes in the season. Four quarterbacks and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you had to go back to like the fifties. But
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: four guys during a pass forward you could see two quarterbacks.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't happen, I will be surprised if Donovan
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Edwards or Club Mullings throws a pass. They've done it before.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That won't be a surprise. I think the biggest surprise
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: would be the double pass. And since that is the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: one thing they haven't really done, then maybe that that's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the one that we should expect most time, other than
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: of course Davis Warren, Yes, and yeah, frankly, that might
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: be their best shot for a downfield pass.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well that's it. You try and get you
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: try and get the defense to suck up and then
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: take a shot downfield. The throw, you know, the throws
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: downfield have just not been there in terms of arm strength,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of arm accuracy, in terms of receivers being
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: able to get open. So if you can get a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: guy wide open because the defense is sucked up on
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a on a what looks like a screen pass or
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: what looks like a you know, an end a round
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: or something like that, that's, you know, that's not a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: bad not a bad way to kind of work around that. Glassmen.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Butterfly wants to know the temperature difference at field level
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: when it's about thirty two degrees out, because when it
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: was a ninety five out, it was one hundred and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: twenty or something. I think it was one hundred and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: forty something. The Big ten networked for the said for
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the Marshall game. So the temperature difference on the field
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is really not substantial from where it is elsewhere on
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the field or outside the stadium. The only thing that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: really makes a difference at field is because the stadium
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: is relatively tall and closed in. You don't get as
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: much wind at field level as you do if you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: were sitting in the top row of d deck or
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: standing outside next to the stadium. You know, standing outside
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in a field or whatever near there, temperature wise, it
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't make that much of a difference. The reason it
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: is a big difference on a sunny like a sunny
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: hot day, is because the sun beats down and there's
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: all that's between those little pieces of fake grass on
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the field. It's all chopped up, old tires, it's all black,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so it all absorbs a ton of heat from the sun.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So what happens is during a hot day, a hot
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: sunny day, there's a huge difference between the temperature of
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: like you know, if you're standing in a field half
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a mile from the stadium and standing on the field
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: in you know that on that artificial turf, it makes
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a huge difference on a hot day when you don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: want it to make a huge difference. It really doesn't
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: make a particularly big difference on a day like Saturday,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: where I think it was supposed to be mostly overcast,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: which means you're not going to get a lot of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: sun beating down. Also, the sun is much lower in
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the sky, it's come up much later in the morning
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because they're much later in the fall. All of that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: adds up to No, there's not a huge temperature difference.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me and a lot of other people down
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: on the field. There is not a huge temperature difference
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: on the field when you get to this time of year.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Also, not a big temperature difference in the press box,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: where in the summer these nude kicks are hot and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: blinding into press box. I've tried to explain this to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: people before. It's not you can't work in these conditions.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: You can't see your screen. The sun comes to the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: windows like a magnifying glass. Almost it's too hot in September.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It's dangerous, frankly, these conditions that they put us in.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But it's just fine when it's overcast and you get
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: into the winter.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't believe you, Paul, I can't believe you
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: made it all the way through that answer without using
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the word hero. I thought, I thought, for sure here
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: it comes.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: But no, that's not for me to say. That's for
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: everybody else to recognize me for being a hero. Am
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I going to say I'm a hero?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: No?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Do I have to?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: No, it's understood, strongly implied. Yes, yes it is Glasswing.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Butterfly says, thanks Tom, good luck. I feel worse to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: fall for Tony. Of course, listen, we all do, we all.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Do I will. I hope to manage.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: GJ says, weather means nothing in this game, tough man,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: French game. It's our moment, our time, go bucks. I think,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is not weather that should substantially impact things.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: This is not eighty mile on hour winds like we
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: saw at Northwestern a couple of years ago. This is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: not you know, this is not snowing sideways, This is
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: not pouring down rain. This is you know, this is
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: mildly con inconvenient Midwestern weather, which is kind of normal
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: for this time of year. And frankly, unless something really
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: shocking happens, this will or you know, if I have
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to it loses in the big championship game. Yes, they
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: will play one more weather game this year. Outside of that,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they're probably done with weather games after this because you're
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: playing in a dome in Indianapolis next week, assuming they win,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and then you're you're either playing a home game in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Columbus or you're playing then your next game in the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl after that, so you know you're and then
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the semi finals are in Miami, which is you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: warm ish, but it could potentially rain there, and Dallas,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and then the championship game is indoors in Atlanta. So
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you know, outside of if they if they handle their
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: business the next two weeks, the only chance for a
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: weather game after that, it doesn't really rain in Pasadena,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, it doesn't really rain in you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't. The only other place it could rain is
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: in the Orange Bowl, and I don't know that they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: would even necessarily be in there. I haven't done the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: mileage calculation between Cotton Bowl and Orange Bowl. I would
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: guess they would probably, I mean, it may determine on
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: who be determined on who is in their half of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the bracket. If Ohio State's the number one and Texas
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: is the number you know, on their side of the bracket,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: they may put Ohio State in the Orange Bowl, or
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if Miami's in there half of the bracket, they may
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: keep Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl. Well, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of factors that
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: go into that that that we don't know yet. All right,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So here's one. And I wanted to address this because
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Sam asked to spuck out how to cover basketball anymore?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Kind of a big game today against Pitt So here's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: how coverage decisions get made. What are people watching, what
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: are people talking about? What are people reading? What do
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you think people are talking about and reading and watching
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in Columbus, Ohio this week? Like kind of a big
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: basketball game and the Ohio State Michigan game is tomorrow. Like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: if you want us to cover basketball, tell tell five
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: thousand of your friends to watch when we do a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: basketball show, because we see how many people watch when
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: we do a basketball show, and we see how many
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: people we do a big basketball game recap, or we
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: can do a here's a twenty twenty six quarterback who
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: might be interested in Ohio State and we see what
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the numbers are.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: So well, Ohio State trailing nine to seven in the
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: first half. I will say in terms of football coverage
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: versus basketball coverage. I was was on Mark Rogers show
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: yes or Wednesday, and a Michigan podcaster who has his
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: own channel on Mark Rodgers' network. There they did an
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: eleven hour stream after Bryce Underwood committed because that's because
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: people just wanted to keep talking about it. And so
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's what we're dealing with in terms
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of football versus basketball. And the running joke with college
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: basketball is it doesn't start until January for the majority
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of people, and the majority of people doesn't start until March.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: But in terms of like the ramped up coverage, it
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't start until after football season. So and so that's why,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Plus well in terms of like why am
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I not at the basketball game right now? I've got
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: too much football stuff to do today. Sorry.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, It's just that, you know, it's it's not like, oh, well,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: we we have something against Jake Diebler. It's just like, no,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: this is this is determined by the audience. So uh,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: those are the decisions get made. I would love to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: go cover more hockey. I would love to go cover
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: more hockey in the fall. Men's hockey, women's hockey, men's basketball,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: women's basketball. Absolutely, I would absolutely love to do it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's football season in Columbus, Ohio until further notice and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: uh following following this weekend and next weekend, it will
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: be football season in Columbus, Ohio until Ohio State loses
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: another game, and then it will probably be football feed
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: season for another week or so after that win or
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: lose in that last game, and there will be lots
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: of talking about that, and then, you know, don't worry,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of basketball seasons still to come. The other
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: thing that doesn't help basketball is outside of this game,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the home non conference schedule is awful. Play some good
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: non conference home games and you have a better chance
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: of having more interest. All their interesting games other than
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: this one. All their interesting games in non conference are
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: on the road or neutral site this season.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: So time football update. Nutson is in the red zone
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: now and they're trailing twenty one to seven and early
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: in the fourth against me trying to make this one
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: interesting for Paul Bunyan's acts. After Minnesota get out to
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: a twenty one nothing lead against Luke Fickles guys.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Well McChicken says we need a twelve hour Bucke Hudle
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: live stream. We we have done extended live streams in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the past.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: We did a six hour one.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think six hours is
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the longest we've done. We did a early Signing Day
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: live stream a couple of years ago that was I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: think eight it was six or eight hours, and we
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: kind of had people, different people popping in and out
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: during the course of that span. You and I did
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: a long one after. Was it for the Rose Bowl
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago? We were just sitting in
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a hotel at an airport somewhere, well, I think it
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: might have been the Rose Bowl. That might That might
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: have been like three or four hours. Listen, if there's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: if there's stuff to talk about, we'll we'll we'll do
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a long live show. Listen, get all your friends to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: watch the postgame show after the Ohio State Michigan game,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and we'll go. As long as you want us to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: keep those super chats rolling in, We'll go as long
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: as you want us to win, win or lose. It'll
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: be there will be plenty to talk about tomorrow, both
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: about the game and then you know, based on what
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: happens in the game, the what happens next is going
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to be real different and real interesting if they win
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: or lose, so it'll be plenty to talk about there
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: We talked about captive audiences with live streams. It's basically
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a cap tour audience. You'll keep us there as long
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: as you want us there, and at some point it's like,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: can we go? Like, can we go? Can I go
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: home and get some dinner and watch some football?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: No, it cannot. So that's fine.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're in a spot where generally we can
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: just kind of go as long as we want to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: go more or less because we're not generally. We have
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: found a spot finally where for home games anyway, we're
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: not in anyone else's way. We're not really annoying other
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: people by being loud in the press box or any
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. So uh, and then if
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you want a reminder for the uh, if you want
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: a reminder for the postgame show, you can click on
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the link that was just thrown in the chat. Go ahead,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and oh, go ahead and open that up right now
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: in a tab on your computer. It'll just sit there
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: until it's postgame show time, and then you can open
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: it up and you can go. So we will have it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll have plenty to talk about tomorrow
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: after the game. You know, roll through a couple of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: these questions, Lisa says, uh, that's what I respect about
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you as you shoot it straight, tell us the truth
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: about the state of the buck eyes love that because
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they don't like not being told about the truth, truth
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: about the team. So thanks, So we appreciate that, Lisa,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate you all of you guys who have been popping
• 44:50
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• 44:52
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• 44:55
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• 44:57
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• 44:59
  Speaker 1: The more you guys hit the thumbs up button, the
• 45:01
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• 45:03
  Speaker 1: like people are in here. So the more you hit
• 45:05
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• 45:08
  Speaker 1: of times, but the more of you who hit the
• 45:10
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• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the longer these shows, it's like that the small
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Domino Big Domino meme, Like small Domino is I hit
• 45:19
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• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have to sit there and you can see their beards
• 45:23
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• 45:26
  Speaker 2: So the other thing is time. If you tell somebody
• 45:28
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• 45:30
  Speaker 2: they're actually only hitting it once.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, thumbs up.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, So you have to hit thumbs up, and then
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you have to open it on your spouse's device and
• 45:40
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• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And if your kids your kids, yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I do that. Yeah, listen. However, whatever you got to take,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, we appreciate it. Jack's Taco says
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: score prediction of Michigan places like it did against North Northwestern,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and if Ohio State plays like it did against Nebraska,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I start that one time I saw that one.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, it's interesting one.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: That is an interesting one. So if Michigan plays like
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: it did against Northwestern and Ohio State plays like it
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: did against Nebraska. So the issue that Ohio State had
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: against Nebraska was they were keeping things real, real vanilla
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: in the run game, like they ran a lot of
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like I think it was inside zone that they ran
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a bunch of times in that game, and you had
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Zen Mahowsky playing left tackle who was not having a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: good day, and the offensive line was sort of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: reshuffled offensive line. And it wasn't like Nebraska was just
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: marching up and down the field against the defense. It
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: was just the offense just couldn't get out of first gear.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: You know, if the way that looks against Michigan is
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the Michigan defensive line has a dominant day and you're
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: completely shutting down the Ohios date run game and you're
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: getting to Will Howard and you're shutting them down. Michigan
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: playing like they did against Northwestern. I mean, we rewatched
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that game for the Michigan Monday segment this week. They
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: scored fifty points and I'm like, man, I can't wait
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to watch this game. I wonder how differently they played,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and it was like, no, it was just the same game.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: They just had a bunch of short fields because Northwestern's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: offense couldn't do anything and Northwestern's defense isn't particularly great
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this year, and they just they scored what was the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: stat they had what one drive over sixty yards? And
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: they scored fifty points.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, one drive over sixty five yards and like
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: several drives of between like forty five and sixty five.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: And really the only difference in that in Michigan in
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: that game was that they had a couple of big runs,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: one over fifty from Kalal Mullings because that had kind
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: of gone away. Donovan Edwards's last two carries went for
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: forty four yards total of twenty four to twenty, so
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: they were able to do that even the Tavier Dunlap,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: their fourth string running back, scored on a twenty yard
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: touchdown run at the end. So this was this was
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: something we haven't seen from them in a while, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's easy enough to chalk that up to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Northwestern rather than Michigan. So basically, if Ohio State just
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: tackles the first time, then they should be okay. And
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: but if they played like they did against Nebraska, which
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: was even against Nebraska, the defense gave up like two
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards of total offense. If they hold
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Michigan to two hundred sevent yards of total offense and
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: like four point seven yards per play, I think is
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: that Nebraska had. That's fine, and the offense won't need
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: The offense would just need the same twenty one that
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: they got against Nebraska to win that one.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's a very nerve wrecking game
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State. If they play like they did against
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Nebraska and Michigan plays like they did against Northwestern, that's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: still a game Ohio State could win. It's not a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: game Ohio State's guaranteed to win. It's probably a very
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: close game. And when you have a close game, those
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: are games that you know you're one bounce away from losing,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: or one call away from losing, or one whatever from losing.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: But it's still a game that Ohio State, you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: that's not a oh yeah, Michigan definitely wins this game
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: if those two things happen, and it's a yeah, that
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: game's close, and it's a game that goes either way.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And you could certainly see that. I mean, you and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I did a show about what would it take for
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Michigan to win the game, and it's like, I mean,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: there's a plausible path for Michigan to win this game.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It's there are three touchdown underdog, which is you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the implied odds on that or are in the you know,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: mid nineties or so. Really it feels like with this
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: game being this game, it's probably not quite that high.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: It's probably more in the eighty five to ninety ish range.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: But if you're a ninety percent chance, you know, a
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: ninety percent favorite to win the game, that still means
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that one time out of ten, a bunch of stuff
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: goes the other team's way and they win the game.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Like it's not there are no one hundred percent games
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: in college football, no matter what anyone wants to tell
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: you so. And that kind of goes to Sue's question here,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: which is I have to ask do you want to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: win the Big Ten and that have to play Georgia
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: in round one or lose and get the easy path
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: fifth seed. I'm presuming the field state as it stands.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's a hypothetical, So this is an interesting question. This
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is actually something we got asked about on our board earlier,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and it was more of that was more of a
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: broad conversation. Generally, your answer is always going to be
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you want to play fewer games just because if you
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: play a team, you have a chance to lose. Even
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: if you're a three touchdown favorite, you have a chance
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to lose and Ohio State against like I think, in
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the field as it stands right now, they would play
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Arizona State in the first round and then Boise State
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in the set and the quarterfinals in the Fiesta Bowl
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: as the as the field stands right now. Obviously that's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: not going to be how it actually plays out. But
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: would you rather play Arizona State at home and Boise
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: State in the in the Fiesta Ball or would you
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: rather play No. One and then play Georgia in the
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl? And you know, this one's a little more
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of a complicated answer because I did the I ran
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the numbers just based on sort of general you know,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: general matchups. If you're a twenty one point favorite, or
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: know it's about a twenty one point favorite against both
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Boise State and Arizona State, if you run the you know,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: if you run the numbers, you're north of a ninety
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: five percent win probability there. And you know, I think
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: whatever extra credit you want to give Michigan for it's
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the Ohio State Michigan game, I think you're probably giving
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Arizona State less credit for it's a team from Tempa
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Arizona playing in Columbus Ohio in December, so it's probably
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: better than ninety five percent. But Arizona, you know, Arizona
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: State and and Boise State give them both a ninety
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: five percent win probability. For Ohio State, that's about a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: ninety percent win probability that you win both of those
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: point ninety five times point ninety five is point nine
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: zero and some change. So figure out about ninety percent
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to win those two games. The win probability for a
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a you know, to get to a ninety percent is
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: about a seventeen point favorite. So if you're just looking
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: purely on paper, would you rather play, you know, two
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: games or play one game? Two games? Is a twenty
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: one point favorite or one game as a what favorite?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: The you know, the point where those lines cross is
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: about a seventeen point favorite. So is Ohio data seventeen
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: point favorite against Georgia this year? Probably not? What are
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they a ten point favorite? I mean more not that much.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: It's seven I don't takes a half.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Seven and a half, okay, So you know at that
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: point you might want to just play the one. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: think the actual answer is somewhere south of seventeen because
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: there's an advantage to not playing an extra game and
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: risking people getting hurt. You know, if someone breaks their
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: leg in the Arizona State game and then you don't
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: have them moving forward, guess what you're better off having
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: not played that game. So you know, there is a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: point somewhere somewhere probably between a seven point favorite in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that in that second round is a number one versus
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the number eight and a seventeen point favorite. Like there's
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: there's probably a point at which that line crosses for
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: every individual coach and where their risk tolerances. I know
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that was a lot of numbers, but the answer for
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Georgia is yeah, if you know, if you tell me
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: right now, one ertainty of the field is going to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: stay as you know, as exactly as it is. You'd
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: probably rather play those two games, probably because you're more
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: likely to beat both of those teams than you are
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: to just beat Georgia having to just play one game
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: head to head. But there's a million different ways. You know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: in Indiana could be the eight seed, or Tennessee could
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: be the eight seed, where you probably are a thirteen
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: fourteen point favorite something like that, and at that point,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's a much much more involved conversation whether
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you're going to have that you know, that match which
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: which side of that matchup you choose. And here's the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: other thing. If you lose the big ten championship game,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee you're the fifth seed, Like if they lose,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: if they go in and they lose close, you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: you lose to Oregon by you know, you lose another
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty eight game, Yeah, you're almost certainly
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the five seed. They're not dropping you behind anyone else
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: at that point. If you go in and lose by
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: ten points, you might be the sixth seed. And if
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you're the sixth seed all of a sudden, well then
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: that those matchups are no longer quite so advantageous. So
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you're playing a you're playing a dangerous game if you're
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: trying to really you know, like you're being OK, I
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: would rather have the five seed, like, well maybe, but
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of ifs and hands there.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Well, and if people are wanting to avoid the SEC,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that you're not going to have one
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: of those free, lost talented SEC teams sneaking there at
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: twelve and somehow that's now that's who you're opening up with.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I also think there's there's something too if this were
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: to stay the way it is, and I don't I
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: don't know that it even can, but the idea of
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Georgia and Oregon having your face off against each other,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: in the Ohio State having the opportunity to play one
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: of those teams after those two teams have played, I
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: think not only does it give you great film other
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: than the fact that the Ohisted already has some good
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: film on Oregon, but those are gonna be two tough,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: heavyweight bouts. You're talking about two of the three most
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: talented teams in a nation facing off against each other,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: and Ohio State just sits back having played two games.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: But essentially it was like, Okay, we'll see who comes out,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: and whoever comes out probably will be a little bit
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: banged up for having one won the game. So I
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: think there's also a sneaky benefit to that kind of thing,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: where sure, you know you have to play an extra game,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: but I think the opponent that you get coming out
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: of that eight to nine, then one is that that
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: could be a favorable matchup for Ohio State as well.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I just this is the only bracket that we've gotten
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to see with Ohio State like at five, Oregon at one,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and then that eight to nine thing. It's like, I
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: don't I don't think that's how it's going to end up.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And ken I want to can Ohio State and Oregon
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: separate themselves and get on opposite sides of the bracket
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: because they're just continually being married to each other and
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: all of these projections, and maybe that takes in Ohio
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: State losing and going to six, because I think if
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Oregon loses there at five, barring barring a fifty two
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: to nothing or something like that, which which I don't
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: see because I don't think, you know, they will penalize
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: a count Force Championship game loss. I don't know that
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Oregon is going to be overly penalized for losing in
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis to Ohio State or Penn State. I don't even
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: know who is.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oregon is already in so right, yeah, so
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Ohio State or I think Penn State is ahead of Indiana,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: So it would take Penn State lose it, you would
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: take for Indiana get there. I think Ohio State and
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Penn State would both have to lose. I believe in
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: order to get Indiana into the MAG ten Championship game. So,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and then if all three teams lose, I think Ohio
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: State might still go. If Ohio State loses to Michigan
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and Penn State loses to Maryland and Indiana loses to Purdue,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and if you think that's going to happen, I would
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: strongly encourage you to put a three team money money
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: nine parlay on Purdue and Maryland and Michigan. I don't
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: know what that We need to get the wait guys
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: from wager wire on here to tell us the three
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: team parlay for Tony. Tony is hard at work. Three
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: team parlay. I'm going to guess plus five thousand. We'll
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: see if I'm right. Terry says, Terry is hoping Georgia
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Tech beats Georgia. I mean that's certainly a you know, boy,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about changing what the playoff looks like.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: If Georgia Tech beats Georgia, Georgia is still in the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: in the SEC Championship game. But boy, if they don't,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you know, if they win, then they're going to be
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: probably the two or the three seed. And then if
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they lose the SEC Championship game, they're out. I mean,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: there's no way you could keep them in. At that point,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you have, you have the possibility of a complete anarchy
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: weekend in the SEC. If Georgia Tech beats Georgia, if
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Clemson beats South Carolina, if Auburn beats Alabama, I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: you have all these different teams and there was someone else.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, if if Ole Miss loses to Mississippi State,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you've got all these teams playing these rivalry
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: games this weekend, and if some of them, you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: if a bunch of them go against the SEC, you
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: could theoretically have as few as two SEC teams in there.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I'm certainly not expecting that that's a Mike Ferguson says,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Tony is running numbers from his days as alone Shark.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: No, So, Tom, do you want to know what that
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: would pay out? Just the three teams money line parlay
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: of Michigan winning mm hmm, Maryland winning and pretty winning
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: on a ten dollars bet.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'll say five hundred dollars.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Forty one and fifty dollars.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: So, friends, if I'm not advising you to do this,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: but if you do bet it, you are contractually obligated
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to give me half of your money if you win.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: So that's just I mean price.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: That I'm looking at this now. I can't afford to
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: send this bet in now, Like I've already got the
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: ten dollars right there, just waiting. And that's without applying
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: any like bonuses or whatever your probably jackets up. I'll
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: make this a five dollars bet and jacket up to
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: sixty thousand or something. But let's go ahead and get
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: rid of that.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a boy. Yeah I'm not I'm not
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: expecting that. But if it does, if these trends continue, yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: there are certainly some interesting games to watch this weekend
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: outside of the Buckeyes and Wolverines. But you know, this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: is this goes back to what we've talked about, where, oh,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the new college football playoff format is going to kill
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: all interest in the sport and it's going to be terrible.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And it feels like a lot of people are interested
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: in watching college FOOTBA right now. Feels like there's a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: lot more team for whom there are things on the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: line this weekend than there were in previous seasons.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: We don't even know what we I mean, we know
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: what we don't know. It's like, we don't know what
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: this bracket is going to look like, Like every game
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: affects the standings, and it's like, well, now this team
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: is the favorite. Now this team needs this to happen.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what the what all of the
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: conference championship game situations look like at this moment in
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: terms of like is Colorado in are they have they
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: wrapped up a bid in the Big twelve championship game
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: against Arizona State? Is Arizona State have they wrapped them up?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Or do they have to? I assume they have Arizona
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: this weekend, Like is Arizona going to be able to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: keep them out of it? There are so many of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the rivalry games right now, where those.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Tony? Good news? Good news, Tony. I still have the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Big twelve flow chart on hand, So here's if if
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: if Colorado wins, there are way that Colorado still does
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: not make the Big twelve championship game. I don't even
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: know which of these games has happened yet and has
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: not happened yet, but yeah, I mean, if you look
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: at the Colorado side of it, there are one, two, three,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: four different scenarios four different combinations of results from the Colorado,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the Kansas Baylor, West Virginia, Texas Tech, Arizona, Arizona State,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Kansas State, Iowa State, and Houston and BYU games. There's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: four different combinations of results from those that would result
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: in Colorado winning this weekend, still not making it into
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: the College Football into the Big Twelve championship game. So
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: that's I haven't even looked at the score of that game.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Goodness that is happening today? Which one Colorado is that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: today they're up for nothing in the fourth. Oh, so
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: they're probably going So it feels like they're probably going
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: to win. Okay, Boise State up twenty seven to eighteen,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: They're up two scores in the fourth, So yeah, a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: couple of games there. Goodness, Yeah, it's a boy Colorado.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Colorado is one of those teams Tony that if Colorado
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: is the four seed, that's one where personally at that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: point I am rooting for Ohio State to get the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: five seed because then we get to go cover a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, Shudoor Sanders, Travis Hunter hypefest there. And let
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: me tell you, if you've watched Colorado along the lines,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I think that might be a favorable matchup for Ohio
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: State in the places where those games, where games tend
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: to get decided. So you know that that's a game
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: where we get a week of exciting press conferences and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: lots of big audiences and probably also get to cover
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: a college football playoff semi final and as well, man
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: we get.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: To meet some Colorado fans that Colorado does pretty well
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, putting in the tags on the on the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: back end of YouTube videos and you'll see would you
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: like to suggest would you like to mention that you're
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: talking about Colorado? And here it's like I'm not, but
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I could. Colorado pretty popular idea and pretty popular on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: the all YouTube there.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: M Mike Ferguson says that was just the inside of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: my brain as a floor chart. Yeah, I mean there's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of college football rattling around in there. That
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: is certainly true. And yeah, and you know, one of
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: our viewers would prefer to see Michigan beat Ohio State,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to beat Michigan Oregon and either Tennessee or Georgia and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: whoever in the national championship game. I mean, listen, if
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: you if you tell Ohio State fans you're going to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: win the national championship. Who would you like to go through, Like,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a path of you beat Michigan, you win
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and you beat three SEC teams in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: a row, boom bom boom in the College Football Playoff.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that would be the path that people would choose,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: just because just for the opportunities to chant SEC SEC
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: multiple times at the end of a bowl game. But also,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's if you have Frankly, it's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: more interesting to see teams play when they haven't already
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: played that season. We're going to see potentially Ohis State
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and Oregon played twice. There is a certain amount of
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: intrigue around a team. You know, I don't know that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: anyone's ever played three times in a season, so that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: would be kind of interesting. But also, you know, I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: also would kind of not mind seeing someone else at
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: some point. The other thing that goes into this, and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about this in the context of
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the playoff, is are you going to be fresh if
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: you are the team that has to buy and you're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: going into New Year's Day without having played since the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game, or are you going to be
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: rusty in the team that played ten days before. Are
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: they fresh? Are they are they are they ready to
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: go and really in rhythm? Or are they beaten up
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and battered and bruised. And we've never seen this format
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: before where one team is going to have ten days
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: off and one team's going to have twenty something days off.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is all very new. And you know
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: that's when we have this one versus five conversation. There
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of information that we don't don't have.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of those things where if you watch baseball,
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  Speaker 1: how often does a team cruise to the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: they get a buye there and they're off like five days,
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  Speaker 1: and then they come back and they look like they've
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  Speaker 1: never played baseball at before, and then they get knocked
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  Speaker 1: out of the you know, NLDS or alds. It happens
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I'll tell you from what we've heard, Georgia
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  Speaker 2: wants no part of the SEC championship game. So they
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  Speaker 2: don't mind playing in that first round and not getting
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  Speaker 2: that buy and just going through that. They a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams don't want to be. Well now, Georgia being
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  Speaker 2: in a situation where if they lose in the SEC
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  Speaker 2: Championship game, they might be done entirely, so that might
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  Speaker 2: cloud their thinking. But I think it just depends on
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  Speaker 2: the team where you're at. What what do you need
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  Speaker 2: you need to get healthy? Do you need a week
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  Speaker 2: off because you still get time off, it's like ten
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  Speaker 2: games between between games if you're playing or I just
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  Speaker 2: think that that might be a long layoff for a
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  Speaker 2: team that would that would get a buye. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think a coach is going to turn it down.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, ah, you know what, somebody on our spot
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  Speaker 2: will take it. We'll go play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, That's that's one of those things where the coach.
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  Speaker 1: Coaches are always going to default to. I would rather
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  Speaker 1: not play that first round yet get just have a
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  Speaker 1: buy into the second round and not put yourself at risk,
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  Speaker 1: put your players health at risk, put your team at
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  Speaker 1: risk of a loss in that first round. That's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of what coaches are always going to default to
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  Speaker 1: for the most part. So yes, and that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that's important context around the Georgia the Georgia thing. Georgia
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  Speaker 1: knows they're in right now as long as they beat
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech today, but if they lose in you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they lose to Georgia Tech, they're out, then they
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  Speaker 1: then they really will want to play in the SEC
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  Speaker 1: championship game. There's just there's it feels like that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Top conference championship games are like seven days and some
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  Speaker 1: hours away at this point, and there's still so much
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