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🍊 RHOC "Caviar Bump and Friendship Dump" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling, Yello. Everybody, welcome back
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  Speaker 1: in It's Drama Darling and we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: recapping the Real Housewives of Orange County. Diana Chang is
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  Speaker 1: here with me to do that, right, Diana, Good morning,
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  Speaker 1: for additions there as well as also more recaps. Today
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  Speaker 1: we're doing Real Housewives of Orange County. As I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to bat down the hatches here because I'm recording.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've got a house full of you know, parents,
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  Speaker 1: and Maddie's not in school, and Brett hadn't left for
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  Speaker 1: work yet, and you know, my dad was on speakerphone
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  Speaker 1: with some sort of customer service as per usual. Maddie's
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  Speaker 1: down to it, oh yeah, trying, and my mom is
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  Speaker 1: you know, got her morning shows at full blast in
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  Speaker 1: the living room. Maddie is just gaming with her friends
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  Speaker 1: on her iPad. Brett surprisingly was you know, quiet as
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  Speaker 1: a mouse, trying to sneak out. Yeah, I had to
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  Speaker 1: really tell everybody to quiet the h down. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what Deanna said. I I was saying, my dad's
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  Speaker 1: on speakerphone and I needed him to like leave the
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  Speaker 1: room and go somewhere. And she was like, well, he
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  Speaker 1: made it your business, you know. So I videotaped him.
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  Speaker 1: I videotaped him, and I I went ahead and sent
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  Speaker 1: it to Katie's husband, you know. But that's all I
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  Speaker 1: showed it to, is Katie's husband. That's it. No one else,
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  Speaker 1: not no, and certainly.
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  Speaker 2: Not obviously Jen. Not Jen.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we begin at the beginning with a scalp massage,
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  Speaker 1: red light therapy, and you know, a SPA day with
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  Speaker 1: Gena and Katie, which was just a delight to see
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  Speaker 1: all this happening, you know, you Orange County. Last week
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  Speaker 1: we were basically straddling some sort of apparatus. Nice to
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  Speaker 1: see that we're not doing that this week, and we're
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  Speaker 1: just getting scalp massages and some wonderful light BA treatments.
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  Speaker 1: And then we move on to basically a Tamera versus
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  Speaker 1: Jen split scene. We've got two of the different pairs.
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  Speaker 1: They're aligning with each other. And so we've got Emily's
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  Speaker 1: house with Tamera. So Tamra and Emily are talking about Jen,
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  Speaker 1: and then Shannon, Heather and Jen are talking about Tamera,
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  Speaker 1: and we're seeing the back and of course, which is always,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a fun way to hear the different sides
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  Speaker 1: with the Tarmra situation. She is like, Jen can't move
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  Speaker 1: on from like from last year. She just can't move on.
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  Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, Gretchen's now come in and she's taking up.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, Jen, can I pull you? And basically Jen's like, Gretchen,
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  Speaker 1: can I pull you? Can we pull each other and
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  Speaker 1: go against Tamra te Yeah, which is a pretty phenomenal
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  Speaker 1: execution of a storyline here because it takes a gaggle
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  Speaker 1: of gals to go against Tarmra for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so with that being said, Tamra is like, I
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  Speaker 1: listened again to the podcast and I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: said anything bad, And I'm like, wow, you know, wow,
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  Speaker 1: we you know she was like that. Tamra accuses Gretchen
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  Speaker 1: of going on her daughter's Facebook page when her daughter,
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  Speaker 1: Sidney was a minor at the time, and then commenting, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: totally mess totally weird, completely messy. But Tamra went on
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  Speaker 1: her podcast talked about the funeral, the services for Slade's son,
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  Speaker 1: and we get a flashback of them listening to the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a bunch of them. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who was anyone who's on Tamra's side. Right here we
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  Speaker 1: have Tamra saying, you know what she said on to
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  Speaker 1: Teas in a pod, and Emily and Gina are like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's not that's not really that good, and Gas like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that does.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound good at all, Tamara.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where we landed, and Tarma's still sticking to
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  Speaker 1: it's not that bad you really think about it. And
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  Speaker 1: when Gretchen laid on that line last week, it's not
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. It really isn't. I mean, Tamar went
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  Speaker 1: for the jugular. She goes so hard, and and the
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  Speaker 1: fact that, like she talks about how she's crying so
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  Speaker 1: much lately because of what's going on with Teddy and
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with Sydney. It's heartbreaking, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you want to have all the empathy in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well you do. I mean, it's okay, we
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  Speaker 1: can compartmentalize, but for her to not actually have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to see how that could be so hurtful is
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  Speaker 1: such a bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's where she loses so many people,
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  Speaker 2: because she genuinely has like an inability right, and that
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  Speaker 2: just is impossible to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know how there was a conversation with Heather
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  Speaker 1: and who was it? They was saying, are you scared
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  Speaker 1: of Tamera who said that to her?
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  Speaker 2: Was it Jen?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because it was when Jen when she was like, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't I'm not asking, this is not throwing this out there?
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  Speaker 2: Would you consider leaving her husband at home? Like she
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  Speaker 2: was just like.
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  Speaker 1: That, She's like, I'm in a pickle and I just
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  Speaker 1: I really want you both to be there, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to be there, like you to be
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  Speaker 1: there you singularly alone without I don't know, Oh, just
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  Speaker 1: throw any name out there. I don't know, sounds like
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  Speaker 1: sounds like buying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was uh, you know, well, I could This
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  Speaker 2: show brings a lot up for me. Amy, Heather wears
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  Speaker 2: me down, Erica, Erica, Emily, and Gina Like I can't
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  Speaker 2: figure out their names until like halfway through the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Every time, we're so many seasons in with.
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  Speaker 1: Them, you don't remember their names?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's really rough. I don't know what that's because
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  Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the show for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's like I I mean, I mean, it just
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  Speaker 2: brings up a lot, you know, like Emily and Gina.
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  Speaker 2: Do I know who they are? Obviously, but when we
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  Speaker 2: restart a season, I go through the same questions, why
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  Speaker 2: are they here? What are they bringing?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: How have they lasted this long?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, well, I'm not at all. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see it. I mean, I really like both of them.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean I think, well, to your point, if
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  Speaker 1: I were to go down that road, if I I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a whole other thing, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to go on a retreat, you know, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to go to the mirrorbell, I'm gonna have to go
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  Speaker 1: wherever they went to think about this. But if I
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  Speaker 1: were to go down that road, you know, first things,
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  Speaker 1: the first thing out of my mouth would be because
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  Speaker 1: we have Tamra and we have Shannon. Who are you know,
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  Speaker 1: who have carried the show for years upon years upon years,
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  Speaker 1: Shannon alone, Shannon Badore, Shannon Storms Badour, Storms Badour is
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  Speaker 1: a star and she will always be because the drama
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  Speaker 1: is there all the time, Darling. Drama, darling, so you
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  Speaker 1: know when you have such a kingpin like shot and storms,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean I would say the same, I mean
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  Speaker 1: with Heather, Like I see your point with Heather, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and getting back to is she afraid of Tamera? Well,
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  Speaker 1: when she was like, I'm not afraid of Tamera. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she's afraid of Tamera, but she absolutely I
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  Speaker 1: mean if you were to ask her at a lie
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  Speaker 1: detector test, which maybe we'll get to, do you actually
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  Speaker 1: like being around Tamera? The answer would be no. There
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  Speaker 1: is a work relationship. They have no real friendship chemistry.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel that way?
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  Speaker 2: Heather has to like get out her time card, clock
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  Speaker 2: in and then can you know, and then the relationship
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  Speaker 2: will commence, you know right, It's definitely not an organic
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  Speaker 2: like let's grab a crossong you know tomorrow?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, you see it so clearly like they have
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  Speaker 1: a meeting I think in this episode and Tamra, well
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  Speaker 1: when Tama's like all I'm doing is crying and how
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  Speaker 1: there's just like, well, you know, you've been through a lot,
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  Speaker 1: You're showing up, You're doing the work and how much
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  Speaker 1: more time do we have in this scene? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and Tarma's really at the bottom. You mean,
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  Speaker 1: she is really struggling. This is intense stuff she's going
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  Speaker 1: through right now. I mean, I believe she's been crying
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  Speaker 1: like one hundred percent. That's why it's so hard to
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  Speaker 1: believe that she doesn't have compassion in situations or have
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  Speaker 1: the ability to see certain things that she's done bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: You know. But I don't know where this season will
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  Speaker 1: lead us. Perhaps she won't see the light.
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  Speaker 2: No, that would be amazing, I mean I would I'm
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  Speaker 2: staying open. I just can't imagine.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: She has those I think she will con listen, I
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  Speaker 2: do I think that she will become more connected and
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  Speaker 2: dropped in with her emotions. Yes, do I think she
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  Speaker 2: She is. She doesn't like she's old school with this show.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's an old school housewife who's like I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna I was kicked off and I'm gonna stay on
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  Speaker 2: this show come hell or high water, and that means
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  Speaker 2: doing the most, doing the worst, you know, Like she's
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  Speaker 2: just a housewife, beast.
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  Speaker 1: A housewife beast, house wife. Yeah, well, Tarma basically tells them, like,
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  Speaker 1: my lawyer says, to stay away from Ryan because they're
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  Speaker 1: baiting me, they're bidding me and disgusting and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so now her lawyers like, don't be around them, which
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  Speaker 1: then of course puts Heather in a pickle because her birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Great advice, because here we have Ryan that's just like
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  Speaker 1: posting up over on wherever he's posting up on social media.
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  Speaker 1: The lawsuit is waiting. You know, I've got I'm I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good, just like with a cup of coffee,
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  Speaker 2: just firing it off. Yeah, with his freaking hooty white
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  Speaker 2: and little jack suit coat.
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  Speaker 1: Why why this is a mockery look. It's actually in
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  Speaker 1: line with who he is with his wardrobe. But they
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  Speaker 1: walked in and you know, everyone is. She looks like
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  Speaker 1: she's trying to do like a Kim Kardashian Marilyn Monroe
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  Speaker 1: dress at the met Gala, and I mean that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what she was trying to do. And then he's popping
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  Speaker 1: in with a hoodie behind her. And then he had
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  Speaker 1: the nerve to put a kerchief a pocket square in
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  Speaker 1: his soup coat. Yeah, he did dance balls. No, it
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  Speaker 1: is as if that's gonna make up. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't have a pocket square erase what's happening with the
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  Speaker 1: rest of what you have going on. It just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work that way.
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  Speaker 2: It can't work that way. And it's chill. It's like
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  Speaker 2: chills up the spine. To see that heavy, white, bulky
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  Speaker 2: hoodie hanging over his shoulders. I was like, I would
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  Speaker 2: swing him by it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It really had me making sure that I had an
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  Speaker 1: eye on every other man at that party to see
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  Speaker 1: if anyone else is showing up in this ridiculous wardrobe,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, it is La. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: is California. People do not dress they acted up. You know.
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  Speaker 1: The men are never dressed up. They're just not They're
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  Speaker 1: not wearing a proper, you know, suit coat. It's not
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  Speaker 1: Southern charm. Okay, so right, they're coming in with it.
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  Speaker 1: It's always going to be a gene and some sort
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  Speaker 1: of suit coat with a T shirt. Maybe Slade seemed
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  Speaker 1: to be fine. Slade looked like nice.
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  Speaker 2: Matt always looks nice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Matt looked great.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so we lost from we went. That hoodie
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  Speaker 2: just took us because you were saying he's posted up
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  Speaker 2: and Tamra can't actually be with him because it's good advice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's great, it's great. It's great. So
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  Speaker 1: now Jen is really taking offense to Heather, asking about
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe can Ryan not come? And Jen, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't expecting this pop off here. And then when they
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  Speaker 1: revealed how close the tables were to the other people
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  Speaker 1: in the restaurant and she was at an eleven, I
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  Speaker 1: almost lost my.
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  Speaker 2: I liked it though, it was so I loved it, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my gen's here, she's here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm you welcome in. Jen, I honestly was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I really see her side to this. I absolutely yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got it. You know when she was like to
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  Speaker 1: have to now go through and prove that my house
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  Speaker 1: was not rated by the FBI and that I have
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  Speaker 1: a safe home for my kids to live in, because
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  Speaker 1: I immediately thought that when this happened Deanna, I was like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: he's such bad news. And then the FBI raided their home.
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  Speaker 1: She has all these kids, this is bad, like bad.
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  Speaker 1: She has now exposed them through through him, to a
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  Speaker 1: horrific traumatic experience and that's immediately what I thought I
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  Speaker 1: thought about the kids, and to now find out that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case, that they weren't rated, I mean right allegedly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see.
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  Speaker 2: I'm lost in this part. I can't weigh in because
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little lost as to like exactly what went
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  Speaker 2: down with him.
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  Speaker 1: And well, now I believe that they were not raided
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  Speaker 1: by the FBI. I do not belie that that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to believe that. I really do believe
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  Speaker 1: Jen in this speech, and she's like, and now I
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  Speaker 1: have to pay attorneys that I never thought that I
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  Speaker 1: would have to that I can't afford. Thank you for
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: at least being honest about that. And then I would
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  Speaker 1: also say, well, Jen, you also it's not all Tamor's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what, you hooked up with a man who clearly
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: is not on the up and up, not on the
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  Speaker 1: up and up and periods stop. So she is definitely
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  Speaker 1: deflecting and projecting all of this onto Tamra, all of it,
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  Speaker 1: and she really needs to be angling a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that towards Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, right, oh that you want her you want
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  Speaker 2: to angle it over there? That ain't gonna happen. Not
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  Speaker 2: sure other season or two, it will eventually. Obviously, he's
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  Speaker 2: not for the long haul. He is a ne'er duell No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a vagrant as we.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He's a vagrant, I say, using the wrong word. He's
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  Speaker 2: a vagrant. He's literally a vagrant.
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  Speaker 1: So I get her anger, and I understand what she's saying. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: of course I can't feel.
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  Speaker 2: Good to go back at Heather. That still feels good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's she's definitely showing us her side of it,
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  Speaker 1: and she's staying with this man and they're planning a
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  Speaker 1: freaking wedding and that's that. But on the flip side, Deanna,
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, there were a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: in this episode that Ryan said that I was pleasantly surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions about Jen's ex husband. What is happening. When
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  Speaker 1: Ryan says he chooses, you know, you know, he chooses
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  Speaker 1: to not be as involved as he could be. I
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  Speaker 1: really wish he'd be more involved. All of the kids
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  Speaker 1: are living under our roof now. It seems weird to
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  Speaker 1: say that, because like the kids may hear that eventually.
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  Speaker 1: So Ryan not a good look, I think he did.
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  Speaker 1: I think he bit his tongue. He could have said
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  Speaker 1: a lot more, but there's a lot more to be said.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm really curious as to what's going on. And
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: then that whole situation with I sound like Gina, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: Hos leguation with the kids and the signing, the co
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: signing of the loan. So the dad had the older
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  Speaker 3: son who's eighteen co sign for college for the younger son. WTF.
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  Speaker 3: And when Ryan was like I would never do that
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  Speaker 3: to a child and put that on them, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: good for you, Ryan, you know, I happen to obviously
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  Speaker 3: agree with him, and I was happy.
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  Speaker 1: That your kids are.
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  Speaker 2: It's very strange, right, I don't get it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It feels almost like somehow he's getting back at Gen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Oh interesting, I don't even can't
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  Speaker 2: even like dot those eyes, but like it feels so wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It is it's so extremely wrong. And then for them
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  Speaker 1: to be exposing this and it is about the kids,
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  Speaker 1: that is really all bad. Again, this is a reality show.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, I mean it's great to hear, but
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  Speaker 1: they are really they have to tread a lot more
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  Speaker 1: lightly in their world, and I feel like they are
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: just stomping down this reality brick road and you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna give us a lot of drama, but
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of shrapnel casualties. You know.
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  Speaker 1: She's got her child on camera, which I'm sure they
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  Speaker 1: already knew that he had signed that loan and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure the other child when they Okay, So when they
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: were filming that and Jen had two different scenes where
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: she was setting up this information, I was like, well,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: is she just repeating the scene for the cameras, because
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: if she is, this is just like so dirty. But
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: she seems so authentic when she does it, you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: like is she the greatest reality star? You know? Because
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  Speaker 1: she was like, did you get that loan figured out
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  Speaker 1: with your dad? And then the her youngest Harrison, I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think it was like yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's all good. And then in another scene she asked
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  Speaker 1: her older son, wait, did you you didn't did you
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  Speaker 1: co sign with your dad for that loan? He's like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so it was sort of repeated. If
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was the first time that they
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: had talked about it. So for them to perhaps reenact
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that and give it to us. I was like, this
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: is really messy.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Wow, I appreciate you Again. Sometimes I have radical acceptance
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and I don't think about the behind the curtain type stuff.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But you're so right, like, yeah, they've sat down and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: said to each other, we're gonna blow his shit up.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah on a right platform. Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And that maybe because he, you know, they need to
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: prove that he is also not doing things right and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: they want to get more money from him. I don't.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't really know because he's not paying her right.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Didn't we learn that she's not getting proper.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not much at all, which is why she's pretty
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: broke right. And it's just that when she does these scenes,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: it seems so real and authentic that I have to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: part of me is like, like you said, radical acceptance,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I really feel like it is happening for the first time.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, so, I mean, I really don't know, but
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I definitely think they're definitely trying to expose her ex
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and is he deserving of it? Is he really like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a bad guy? Is he sketchy with money? I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: what is happening? Because it's starting to sound like that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and for Ryan to be speaking up about finances and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the ethics of finances is very bizarre this season, especially
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: after we learned it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jen is probably one of the most
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: likable just and we did for a little bit.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: No, but I think she's very like, she's.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Very very like easy on camera. You know, I never
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: feel she's pushing. I never feel you know that she's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: although so agree.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That's what's so hard of it. And that's why I'm like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is she like the greatest reality star that she doesn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that she's doing this for the show or is she
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: really just perfect to be on a show? And I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: it might be the latter, Yeah, because this whole thing
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: about her and what Tamra's kind of trying to position
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in the light of Jen, that she has like planned
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: being on the Housewives. She's trying she kind of single
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: white female, Tamra tried to live next to her and Simon,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and I think this is really the long game to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: be on a show and for somebody, and that's possible,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: how it is for someone to now be on the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: show and have such authentic scenes. It's not reading to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: me like somebody who has plotted for this long because
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: she does seem very real, very naive, ignorant.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, you know, she's all so fighting for her life.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: There's so many things I think she's pushed to the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: side to go forward in her life. This guy, the allegations.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It's like she got her plastic surgery, she got her body.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: But we have seen it, like Monica from Salt Lake
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: City plotted to get on the show. We're seeing Janet
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: from the Valley. You know, there are now several gals
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: have built in roads to get themselves on the program.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So it's not you know, it's not impossible that that's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: what happened.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think, Okay, it is. It takes a lot of work.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I mean we're talking city planning, you know, we're talking
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like grid, We're talking start from scratchlists. Let's work on
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the electrical grid of California. You know, That's where I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: kind of at. I'm like, what how did she do this?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: If in fact it was so plotted and you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it just all kind of works out too perfectly. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she's extremely desperate because
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: she's in a hell of a position in her life
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: with finances with her ex and now with all this
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: weird legal stuff with Ryan, who we haven't He hasn't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: gone to jail, you know, I mean, we haven't heard
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: anything else about that. So that's been quiet. Now we're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: shifting to the ex husband, which seems very strange, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you're involving these kids. It is one heck of a situation.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But I do really like Jen and I love that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in that restaurant she spoke up for herself and she's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: ready to fight. Okay. So then we go to Katie
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: at home and she's talking about how she's emotional because
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: she's got her kids kind of all together again, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we revisit her story, which is very intense that eleven
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: years ago she had three kids and no home, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: so she gave up custody in order for those kids
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to be you know, have a house, being in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: right school district, all that stuff. And then as they
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: got older, then she allowed her kids to choose where
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they yeah where they wanted to live, and I believe
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: her daughter chose to live with her, and her two
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: sons chose to live with the ex husband. Then she
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: got married to Matt and then they had a son,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: so she has four kids. So and Gavin is with
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: them now part time, so it's these are strides in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the right direction. It's really nice to see that she
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that there isn't any ill will here because I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: there's just a lot of questions and mystery behind the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: kid's situation with her ex and the custody and where
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: they are. And I did appreciate her saying in her confessional, like,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you know, typically women are celebrated for conquering and overcoming struggles,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: but in this case, they're weaponizing it against me, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I just think that the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: problem is is that there isn't enough information and so
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: people are going to make their judgments and they're going
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to be reckless about it, and they're going to think
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the worst. And that's hard because you've got a lot
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of people watching the show and judging, and you've got
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of real housewives that you're surrounded by that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: are going to be judging, and if you're not giving
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: them all the answers, they're going to paint you in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a bad light.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie has made some major mistakes, I think in
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: terms of how she has, you know, having her say
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: last episode that she sort of thought to herself, I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: getting on this show, and I think you need to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: go balls to the wall and kind of, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: go hard. Seeing that, I'm like, I believe her that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: she is recalibrating all of that this season.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree, she's recalibrating because she went in so
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: hard last season. But now, unfortunately she's now in another
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: pickle because she went and made a bad decision. Before
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  Speaker 1: We're talking Orange County. I'm with Deanna Chang and we
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  Speaker 1: have a bowling night with Shannon and Gina and Emily.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And now we get the Revolving Door of Love Hotel.
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  Speaker 1: Gentleman Callers starts. We've got Adam. Later we see Phil Phil.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: This, that's so weird. I find it strange that they're
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: all rolling through.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's just parading them through. She needs an
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: escort and I mean, bring him in.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I kind of loved it. I kind of loved it
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in a weird way. I was like, Wow, this is
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: so odd. But Adam showed up in a bowling shirt
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and there he is, and that's that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: There we is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was dying when they were sitting
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: at that table and Shane came over and he was like, Hey,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you're gonna crash when you go home, crash, crash when
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you get home. And he was like, no, sleep, sleep,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: are you gonna because Shannon crashed on her way home.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So I die. And he realized what he said, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: she just kind of skirted over it and didn't answer.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: She was like, this is going out party. We're going yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: but we didn't see her face, damn it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: It was covered so true. I enjoyed just seeing the reaction,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you know. I enjoyed that. And I also enjoyed when
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Travis pulled Gina to the side and was like, could
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you you're like a freaking dog with a bone, like
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: ease up. Babe, relax. It was like she was grilling
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the dude.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she just would not stop.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: So tell me five things about yoursel.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing was definitely comedic, you know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I think she was trying to be a little clownish.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: So Heather and Tamra have a lunch and I have
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to say, I do love those parrots that are out front,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and we got that flashback of the parrot who called
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: her well, she says it called her old. She's like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you're mean, You're the mean one. She just called me, Oh,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: your disgusting parrot. I did love it. This is when
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Tamra's crying to Heather and we talk about Ryan coming
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to the party, and Heather's like, well, I mean I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: can't not invite Ryan. And now Tamra's starting to feel
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the same way that Jen is, which is like, you know, no,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you have to you have to like tell me can't come,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: or you know, why aren't you prioritizing me? Why are
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you taking that side? And so Heather's just like, why
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: don't you just you know, have a drink and come
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: on over and like forget about it. You know, She's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: just trying to smooth it over and Okay. So Heather's
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: birthday celebration, second day observance is what they're calling it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Perfect for Heather.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: If you go to a Heather joint, if you go
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to a Heather gathering, everything she has done, the caviar bumps,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the gong, throw your shot glass at the gong, the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: rolling joints, the girls in the champagne glass, it's all
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: filtered through. Look at me, what did I do for
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: this party? And that is just the worst way to host.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Like, have you ever seen a Housewives party that Isn't that?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Because I have?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I actually feel like I have because there's just a level.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yes it is, look at me, I've thrown this thing.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But then once you've done that, you have to just
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: enjoy the party. And Heather cannot. At no points, is
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Heather ever settle into a party?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Well necessary?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Like ever just have fun? I mean, I don't you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, she's not showing up for fun.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Never And I looked, am my girl, can you do
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: less or do the same? I don't care. Have your
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: all those stations? Knock yourself out?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I like station then release because you're saying like she
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: basically was like, okay, have a shot glass, throw it
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: at the gong, and then we've got these ladies up
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in here, and then we also have this you're saying
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that she's basically presenting and explaining. Okay, yeah, the bump
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: of caviar that Gina did. Bump.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: She does a bump and then she's like, that's very
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: good caviar, schooling her on the caviar and then taking
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: off like it just never ends.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Wait were they calling it a bump or you calling
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: it a bump?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: It is an I went to a restaurant a year
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: ago in Studio City that they did. It's it's like
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: an instagrammable moment. They call it a bump of caviary.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Is very weird to glorify a drug term for the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: elite food desirings of people. That's insane and I hate
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: it so much.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, it's goofy and it's like it's goofs. It's
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like it's like the hoodie, you know what I mean.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: It's too much.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: What was that place that they were in? Because when
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: we got taken down, how can you not love Emily
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and Gina, Like I mean, at least at this point
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: they are running around this place that is. If it
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: weren't for them, we would not have understood the overall
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: perspective of this venue, like it being in the weirdest
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: place on earth. It felt like it was out of
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like a cult documentary that they took over this building,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you know, like it was you know, keep sweet, what
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: was that, you know, whatever that documentary was. It looked like, yeah, yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: like more of an more a tabernacle. I don't know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that was like shut down years ago and now is
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: haunted because they're going through and they're finding these bathrooms
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and we're seeing the mosaics, and it was so strange.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I did not expect Heather to have something at a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: venue like that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: No, and quite frankly, it looked empty because there were
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: only about fifty people there. So it didn't make sense
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: to me period to have it at that location. I mean,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: yet we went into the studio set where they film
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: like the live services. It was. It was wild and
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like it also does if you're gonna find
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: your way there, have it be two hundred people.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Have it at the house, you know, go back, have
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: it at your penthouse, have it at the asbestos filled
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Hollywood property. Anything. But this, I thought this episode was
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: really good with the gen and camera stuff. It's pretty
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: sisily and now we have this explosive Shannon and Katie situation,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: which we should talk about because yes, so Shannon and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Katie finally talk at this odd party, and you know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I have not seen we have not seen Shannon this
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: angry in a really, really long time. I mean, wow,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I was like starting to get uncomfortable with the things
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that she was. She was saying things that she's also
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: said before, though she's always said nothing you say is
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: ever going to be enough. I'll never speak to you again.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: No apology will do it. You know, we're done. She
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: said all these things of trust. She said that to Vicky,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: she said that to Tamra. I was, frankly, I think
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in the reunion we're going to get a montage of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: her being like, I will never speak to you again.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: We're done, you know, because she said it to so
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: many people. But she really went the extra mile by saying,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you know, if you've gone to the evil really next level, well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: she said, I've gone to the bottom of the barrel
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: with these women, and no one has ever sunk this low.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: That she's worse than a Lexus Tamra, whomever else, John Jansen,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And so the question is, and Darlings, I'd love for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you to weigh in, because when Katie videotaped her at
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the gallery shoot, she's coming with a lot of excuses.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not if she would have said, Shannon, I should
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: have never done that. I am so sorry. No matter
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: if I only showed it to my husband, it doesn't matter.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I should have never done it. I had like a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: lapse of judgment. I kind of was thinking, this is
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: sort of funny, and I would send it, you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: if she would have gone that, because I think that
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: was her motivation. It wasn't to expose her to a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: blog I don't think. Oh no, I know it either possible.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's possible because she she was talking to bloggers. But
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: but nothing happened with that footage you see.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: So yes, I think Katie did not have her apology
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: game together at all. I would because I would do that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I would do that, and I would not if someone
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: was acting crazy. I'm close to me, I would be like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I got the whole picture.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: We see it every day, people are filming, people put
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: about it, but it's different in this realm of television
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and that's where I think it's a little bit different.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's not I don't think it's great.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: It's not great. But I also just think Katie didn't
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: come in clean, like you know what you were just
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: you were on your speakerphone. It was so obnoxious, quite frankly,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: and I and I just was sort of laughing at
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: how intense you came in and how loud and how
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I couldn't take the call. And I said that to
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: my husband. I get that based on what you've been through,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: this feels like this same thing. But I promise you
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: it was just a one off sort of joke that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: now has spirals. I had no ill intentions exactly.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: You hit it on the head, and I completely agree
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: with you. I if she wanted to do something with
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that footage, she would have that would have surfaced, just
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: like everything else has surfaced with the Bravo Babe blogger.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So that proves that she had no intention of hurting
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: her with that. But it was probably the worst thing.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what I honestly don't know what
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: she was thinking by doing that, because like if that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: hadn't happened with the John Jansen videos, and if like
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Shannon didn't have so many lawsuits, and like, if she
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: didn't know Shannon being in a vulnerable state all the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: time and being if she didn't know any of that
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and did that, it would have been a lot more excusable.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But the problem is is that she did. And we
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: know that she kind of like sort of stirs up
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: things to be on the show and kind of was
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: clunky about it first season. So then it's like, we're
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season and we're at this
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: gallery shoote and now you're still doing these antics. What
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: else will you do? That's a misstep now if you
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: haven't figured it out by then, And so I think
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that is the problem. And you know, Shannon, really she
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: really reamed her. It didn't feel good. I didn't like
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: how hard she reamed her. I wish she would have
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: walked away sooner, because Shannon's been really good about walking away,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately Katie kept doing the butt. She kept saying but, but, but,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And the bottom line is now we know well I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: think we know, we haven't quite gotten to the bottom
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of it. Alexis has seen this video and quite possibly Jen,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: although I do not think Jen has seen it, so
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: if Katie showed this to Alexis, I mean game over.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: This is this is this is bad, Like she can't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: be friends with her and anymore, and she should be
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: dead to her and she should be done. So that's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: where I'm going, Yeah, this is And I don't even
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: know if Shannon knows at this point. No, she does.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: She knows, yeah, she does, because they had that lunch.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So did Alexis see the video? We don't know, Heather says.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: She called Alexis and Alexis was like, yeah, we met
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and it was you know, it was the three of us,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and she showed it to me, and then Jenna was
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of course there go ahead.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Now is Alexis And I'm sorry, I don't know this.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Are Katie and Alexis currently friends, yes, active friends?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, right now in presence? I'm sorry, I don't know.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: See that's where it gets interesting because of course Alexis
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: is like so pissed at Shannon. I think Alexis feels
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Shannon's the reason why she's not back on the season
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: this year, and she was reason why she was there.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: She's the reason why she's not there, you know, And
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: so she may have just felt like, oh, there's some
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: way I can hurt Shannon. I'm gonna say, yeah, she
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: showed it to me. I don't even know what we're
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: talking about, but I'll say she showed it to me.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: You know. I'll say Katie showed it to me to
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: get back at Shannon back in the storyline. And if
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I lose my friendship with Katie, so be it. I'm
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: gonna stick with it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I believe Jen when she says I didn't see the video.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I really do. I don't know why, but Jen. I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: don't know why Jen is so believable to me this season.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: She can't be that good of an actress, Like you
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She just seems very sincere. Is
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: she lying? I don't think she's lying, But.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Why couldn't Katie and Alexis have been without Jen.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: That's what's strange is that Katie said in her confessional,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I've never met with Alexis by myself. Jen's always there,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So it's the game of telephone.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And now is there a world in which she's so
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: freaked out by the reaction to even having this video
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that she is making one lie Like.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: It seems like she would just say, yeah, I saw it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, Shannon's right there. It wouldn't be Jen's fault
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: if it was just shown to her.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's possible that they had a meeting and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that Katie talked about the video, that she didn't show
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the video, but she talked about the video, and then
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: in a game of telephone, Alexis told Heather, oh, yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: she talked all about the video. Yeah, I know about
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the video. And then Heather thought she heard I saw
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the video she showed me. I mean, it could just
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: be a game of telephone.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did feel for Katie because I just felt like, God, Katie,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't look good because you've made a
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: lot of wrong moves here and this one. Although personally
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I don't see it as I really genuinely don't see
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: it as bad. I really don't, and I don't know
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: if I'm off and I'll look inward. But I once
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Shannon said that she was on speakerphone, Yeah, yeah, that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: changed it for me.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I mean when she said you made it my business
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: by putting it on speakerphone, I agree with that one
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Anyone who you know, you're in line at
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the bank and someone's talking on the phone. You're making
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it my business. I'm hearing your conversation, so yes, but
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to record it is illegal to do that. That is true,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And I mean we are so passed that concept in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: these times, literally, like I don't know, I mean sure,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Like you know, we also have so many things that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: are legal at this point that are being done that
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I can't sure.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: But well, you know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: The other thing is that Shannon has been Katie's friend,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and I think that's what's really stinging her up right now.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: That's what's really she She was bamboozled by this. She
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: never would have thought Katie would have done this, especially
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: now beginning the season, and she's been trying to have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: her back. So I think that's why she's absolutely irate,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: is because she really liked Katie. She really was trying
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: out her Katie, and now she's like, I don't know
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: who you are, why you would do this to me.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: You know, it is really a double edged sword because
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, Shannon, if you are talking about things that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be heard by other people, but you're expecting privacy
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in a glam room, Yeah, that's just ridiculous. That's a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: reckless decision because not only should you not be talking
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: about private issues in front of your Glam team, because
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Glam is quintessentially responsible for, you know, letting the cat
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: out of the bag time and time again. Should you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: trust another housewife? Absolutely not. But would you expect to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: be filmed?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And that's where I have Shannon's back, and I think
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: that Katie was absolutely wrong in doing that and also
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: with her apology. But there's some glitches on the other side.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: There are, and people have, I mean, Shannon drove into
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: a house, you know this idea everybody. I guess I
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: was really my back was pushed against the wall with
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: everybody seeming to co sign at the party that this
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: was the worst thing that's ever happened and that Shannon
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: should never talk to her again, and of all the
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: things we've seen go down in Orange County, Jen, your husband,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: all of this, I just am not putting this up
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the ladder as the worst thing that anyone's ever done.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: And I was just like thrown by.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I think also if we had seen the footage as
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the public and who knows what that footage was Shannon
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: talking to her lawyer about John Jansen, about the settling
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: about who knows what that conversation was. And if we
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: would have seen that footage and it was personal and
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: it was legal, and that would have been we may
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have seen it in a different light, like, whoa, you
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: did this and you put this on video? Like what
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: if somebody got your phone and somebody exposed that? What
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: if anything could have happened? Yeah, yeah, anything could have happened,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and that could have gone out there. I think that's
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: what's scared Shannon. But again, don't be talking about very
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: important stuff on speakerphone in the glamor room with around
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a bunch of housewives and.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Your team speaker phone.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it's absurd. It's absurd. It's absurd.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: So so all in, you know what, I'm getting closer
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to understanding how bad it was, but I'm also still
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: feeling like it's not that bad, right.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I understand, I totally get it. You know what's worse
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: is what I think we've come down to is Ryan's
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: hooded sweatshirt, Houddie under a suit coat, and that's.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Yon Like, that's like, that's what we can can't recover from, can't. Well,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of questions around this cast right now.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: For me, it's like I don't know who Ryan is,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I don't one hundred percent understand who Jen is, and
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know who Katie is. These are three people
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: that are real mysteries to me, in real wild cards.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And that's why I think this is a really interesting
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: season because we've got a lot of drama. You've got
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: these veterans who are not afraid to swing for the
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: fences and they're going to put up a fight against
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: these new gals, and so that's really what we're looking
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: at and like and then you've got Gina and Emily
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: just bonking around like you know, Frick and Frack essentially,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: like who's gonna deal with Katie right now? Like who's
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be her ally?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe Jen, because Jen's been there for her. And
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: then Gretchen will probably come into that too, because that's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: right thing like Gretchen and Jen. Now, Jen knows that
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: she can form an army, a small army with Gretchen
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: against Tamra, And if you get Katie on that side,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: then you've got these kind of new girls, meaning Gretchen
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: coming back, but she's just a friend of right now.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: But if they form their alliance, essentially you've got three
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and then against the new Guard.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Against the Suard. Yeah, that is exciting. What I have
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: missed so much about Gretchen is the way she always
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: takes like her hair is gorgeous and she's always swooping
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it to the side and like pushing it back up
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: to get the height and and you know there's some
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: sort of hold in there and she's I have missed
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: seeing her do that.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so much, Yeah, so much.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just and she looks phenomenal like her slave
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: don't look like they've aged one day. It's been so
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: it is. It's amazing, truly amazing. They are like the
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Hi and Spencer. You know, no one thought that they
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: could make it, and yet here they are.
• 55:05
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