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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 082626 - From Storytelling to Sovereignty: A Roundtable on Power and Persuasion · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Well, there's our
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  opening familiar lyrics from an Englishman, Alvin Lee, a band ten years after, forty years or fifty years ago and we got one of our English friends on the line with us today.
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  Of course,
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  those lyrics very prophetic, very far ahead of their time. We're
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  quite quite telling on the things that surround us today. That's the kind of things we like to discuss.
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  So,
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  welcome to the Radio Ranch. Roger Sales, your host, the People's Patriot Network, our fledgling little platform.
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  Paul is with us today. Robert is already hooked up and Chris is in there too. So, we start with almost a full compliment, guys. Good morning.
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  Unknown: Good morning. It's like going out to breakfast together, isn't it? Yes, kinda. Really?
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  Unknown: Well, you know, Paul, you're that's the way I've kinda over the years
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  formatted the show.
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  Okay? Instead of like, we're
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  going have this and this and this guy and we're going to cover. It's like, look, we're a small group. We have incredible insight into things that are incredibly important
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  and we have a platform now where we can discuss this and as new people come to our group and wake up, we can help grab their hand, walk em down the garden path of intentional confusion,
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  and hopefully come out on the other side.
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  Now, Chris is an old hand. Paul's been around a while, myself. Now, Robert, however, who's with us this morning from Reno, I guess now. You're relatively new to this. When did you wake up, Robert?
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  Unknown: To the fourteenth amendment? Probably a couple years ago when I first heard you. Oh, by the way, do y'all sound better now? Yes, you do.
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  Okay. I've got my earbuds in. Probably when I heard you for the first time on Joyce Riley when you were sitting for when she was battling cancer. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
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  Unknown: That showed that I got the whole three hours that day and did the timeline presentation.
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  Yeah. Exactly. Uh-huh. Good.
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  Well, you know, a lot of our core illnesses got talking about. Yeah. Well, listen. Everybody that that gets
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  addressed with this pretty well comes away with that same impression.
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  You're not the first and buddy, you won't be the last. What they have woven here. Probably not. A tapestry
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  of incredible,
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  sophisticated
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  fraud and deception.
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  I mean, the deeper you get into this, the more you marvel at it and
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  I, you know, I say this, you don't have to like somebody to respect them.
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  I can hate the some bitches, which I do, okay? But yet I can respect them for what I see that they've accomplished here and how they've done it. It's absolutely
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  an incredible feat.
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  Sheer genius. It it absolutely is. I mean, you know, credit where credit is due is the old cliche.
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  So, anyway, we talk about those folks. Paul's pretty well versed in dealing with these guys but it always interest me on when people
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  got exposed to this and their reaction. I mean, I've told y'all before, Ben, one of our good listeners out in Texas
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  and he listened to me, start found me somehow over on ex wife number two
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  and he said, man, I listen to you every day for six months and I thought you were the craziest SOB
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  that ever come down the road.
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  And then, as with everybody that gets exposed to this, some point in the process and it is a process. At some point in the process, it's like somebody comes up and bangs you with a sledgehammer
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  on the side of the head and you go, holy
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  smoke and see the the problem at that point is that you're just embarking on something. It's like eating liver.
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  You know, every bite, every time you chew it, it gets bigger, okay?
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  So,
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  welcome all of you that have somehow found us or we found you or whatever and we have a day on Wednesdays with our friend Paul and just kind of to discuss. Here he is point of view from across the pond over there and just check-in internationally
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  here on a weekly basis. Paul, what's going on with Brexit, man?
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  Unknown: Tumbleweed.
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  I think it's tumbleweed moment here.
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  The
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  there's a sort of I think we've hit peak ennui,
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  peak
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  apathy around the whole thing.
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  The communication
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  Unknown: is Could that have been that's I'm sorry to override you. Could that have been their motive here? Because it's been two years since you voted on it and and it's just like it's like a tug of war over a rope over old mud puddle. You know, with one side pulling, the other side pulls back and is do you think that was designed to put apathy into the picture here?
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  Unknown: You are so cynical, Rogers Day.
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  Yes, that's me. I think so. I I think so. I don't think it takes too much blinding insight on this side to think that that's the case. I I was actually thinking the other day, I thought wonder if they have a chart you know the wearing down chart, the chart of psychological attrition they go, oh yeah this is gonna take about twenty months if we keep doing it, if you speed this up and then they'll be just completely pliant. I'm convinced that these things exist because I just think that there's a huge
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  there's a huge chunk of sort of hidden
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  cogs, levers, and gears that they tend to pull, know Well listen bring about the the state of foolishness. Anybody that doesn't think that they're really heavy barren sophisticated
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  Unknown: psychological
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  techniques is just doesn't have an idea what's going on.
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  So,
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  yeah, I look at the headlines and I know it's important. It doesn't directly concern us but I know that it concerns you and those folks over there and that's a very pivotal part of this whole thing
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  and boy, I'll tell you, it looks like it they couldn't have kicked the can down the road to a worse time.
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  For the EU?
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  Unknown: Well maybe not, I don't know I'm
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  continually every now and again because it's not far away from my mind, I'm reminded of those little sections in
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  the protocols of the learned elders
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  of Zion, which I know some people say is a fake and this that and the other, but I'm kind of in the Henry Ford camp in that you know everything that's in it, I don't know what it is, but everything that's in it seems to have been rolling out pretty true and there's a bit in it isn't there, where they
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  talk about
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  bringing public figures into
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  these are all my words by the way, it's so long since I read it I can't even paraphrase it properly, but the gist of it was that they would they would bring public figures into such a state of ridicule and disrepute
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  that the people would basically kind of disown them, they would be shamed and shown to be the obnoxious bumpkins that they really have been appointed to be, know, they're playing a role in all of this and then and then these guys turn up from around the back of the curtain and hooray everything is saved.
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  It's
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  the ongoing communication, I mean the communication process around it
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  is
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  rewarding in a small way and a waste of time in the vast bulk of it. Reason why it's a waste of time is that most people are still
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  psychologically going around in circles about what's going on. There's still this attempt to let's communicate with this person if you write to that MP this will happen. None of those things are going to Of course not. They're not gonna happen and then there are others that are it's not so much that they're resigned, I use the word apathy, it's not quite that although there's obviously quite a bit of that, but I think it's that people are actually getting quite clear now, which is a good thing in my view, that democracy
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  doesn't exist,
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  which is good because I don't like it anyway, but the people are actually beginning to understand that it doesn't exist, that there's no point having it, and if they do go to this
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  second vote,
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  if they manage to put it it through, I can't see it happening, that's the end of democracy. They will know this on their sort of psychological barometer, they'll know that
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  if they take the decision yeah it's finished, mean because then that means that any decision ever taken from this point forward would always be open to review,
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  Unknown: or it wouldn't be a decision, so what would be the point of doing it? It's very self defeating for them in one respect, actually they're backed into a corner they're damned if they do and damned if they don't aren't they?
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  Unknown: Well maybe but I mean really from that's to do with the side that they're batting for this is getting clearer as well they're not batting for the people they're not on our team. So that needs to be understood and then people get cross about it, I said why are you getting cross? Why are you getting angry? This is self evident that's the case,
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  save your energy, don't express it in anger against them, we have to look at what we do for ourselves and we have to find ways, platforms to communicate that disengage
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  us mentally and spiritually from
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  this nonsense,
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  this drama of a communication
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  that has got nothing to do with what any of us want or the bulk of us, we don't want it.
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  Unknown: Original vote
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  has made them take part of the mask off.
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  Unknown: Yeah it's hard to know quite why they did it actually, I don't even know what the causative reasons are for why they even asked for it unless they're playing sort of
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  deep level tenth dimension interdimensional
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  chess or something with our heads, which is possible because they've got the brainpower on that side to work it all out you know, if they do this then they'll do that then they'll react like this then we get them to respond like that, then we feed them a carrot here, then three months later we kick them up the arse there. It's that kind of stuff you know, so I don't want to spend too much time on it because it's their world, it's their wacky world of manipulation. Well we got to understand it because we're we're influenced by it and we have to navigate out of it. The only way you can navigate out of it is to understand how it works.
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  Unknown: I want to go back to a point you were talking about. Maybe. The protocols.
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  Well, that's what I found with my with my body of work here.
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  With the protocols and of course, what happened,
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  the protocols were first came to the surface.
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  You know the background of this a little bit, don't you, Paul? Back around the Bolshevik Revolution that I remember and they were written in Yiddish
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  and
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  someone got em to England and a guy named Victor Marston.
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  I remember his name from the one of the big. The Tide. It was. One of the. It was the Times News thing. Yeah. Well, it was the he worked for one of the big
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  museums there, Natural History or something and
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  but he knew Yiddish and he got that Yiddish manuscript
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  and this was in the forward part of the book that I read on it, you know, with that contained him and he went, his office was in the basement
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  and he could only work on him thirty minutes a day without literally becoming physically ill and wanting to go puke
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  and so that's how they got translated.
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  Now in Bolshevik Russia,
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  if you were
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  found to have a copy of that document on you,
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  you were executed
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  on the spot,
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  no questions asked.
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  That sounds like a hell of a forgery to me.
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  Now, let's go back to this importance on words,
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  okay?
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  The
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  word that they use evidently they got one of their crooked judges at some court in Bavaria to rule that it was a forgery and that's how they got that cover, okay?
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  But let's go back and look and parse these words. It's like god's chosen people. All this stuff they throw at us. They say it's a forgery, right?
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  Doesn't a forgery by its own definition have an original?
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  Unknown: Oh, it does.
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  It does.
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  Okay. I mean, it's not so it's not a doggy. I mean, there are I've I've heard people sort of really go into a detailed way to dismiss it as being a fake,
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  but as I said it doesn't really matter, you see the thing is it's like we say,
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  you say well that book of fiction is a fake, no isn't it? Yep. It's not. Imagination is real, it's as real as anything else out there and it determines a great deal of people's decisions, thoughts, and feelings about things.
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  Films are colossally influential,
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  books probably even more so. I was talking to someone the other day, they were saying there's never been a film made that's as good as the book and I think that that's the case and the reason is the case is that obviously when you are reading a book, given that you commit to it, which is a time investment,
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  you end up becoming absorbed in a world of which you are a great co creator of in your own head,
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  and therefore it's a reflection of where you were at that time in your life and your ability to imagine scenes and scenarios and settings,
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  and so it has more permanence it seems to me inside you,
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  and of course people have been reading for a long time so you know it's not as if just because we've got this modern technology it makes us better equipped, in many ways we've been more easy to distract.
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  We've got on top of that as well but we have and still remain relatively easy to distract away from what it is that we're supposed to be focusing on because
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  Unknown: sensationalism can get in the way. Did you ever hear the Steven Spielberg quote on the interview that was this is in the 70s I think in the Dallas Morning News was the I believe whatever the main Dallas paper was or is
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  and he said That would be it. Celluloid
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  is the world's most powerful
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  weapon.
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  Unknown: Well, might be right.
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  I suppose, know, they've invested a great deal in it.
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  They've invested a great great deal in it and
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  obviously,
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  if you look at the history of film in The States
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  with Edison, it gets dragged off to Hollywood and
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  Hollywood
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  I mean it makes sense that the technology of the time would result in Hollywood being the center of films purely because of the sunlight. It's little things like this that make all the difference. So given the nature of camera technology and the exposure rates of film, makes complete sense that from a cost point of view, you could film obviously in California I guess three sixty five days a year. So that makes that makes a lot of sense. So it's understandable it probably would have ended up there whoever took it. But
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  Edison kind of lost control of the whole thing, didn't he? Yes. And I think
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  Unknown: same way that
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  Tesla lost control of radio and they got Marconi given the credit and then after they got it all on Marconi's
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  under his company and they got the patents registered
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  they transferred everything to RCA.
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  Unknown: You
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  see I think of course all of these technologies are being invented and augmented and created and we know who invents most of the technologies,
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  you know the the way that we have or an aspect of the way that we are hamstrung
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  is to do with the fact that we think and I've thought this most of my life you know prior to getting to grips with actuality as opposed to my own daydream about life, we tend to think that everybody would want to pitch in and make things better,
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  and so the big shock and the big part of the nasty part of the story that we're selling here and that many people in the alternative information world are selling it is
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  that's not true, that's
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  not true. We're not all in this together, we're actually not all working together to the same common goal. There are forces at play that are gonna make use of and abuse you and abuse your energy to gain a hold over you because that's what they're into and of course that's very difficult for normal people to take on board. It is in one conversation. It is. It's probably not too wise to try in one conversation, but you have to begin to sow seeds in some way.
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  Fortunately we're in an era where more seeds have been sown more rapidly than any other point in human history as far as I'm aware because of the technology giving us a stronger hand than we've ever had before, but we still need to use it well. It's a wonderful Yes,
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  Unknown: you can, Chris. It's a wonderful situation in a sense that we find ourselves in because we are at least aware and we're exploring this stuff, and I think we found some of found a way out of it. So, you know, that's what the purpose of this is. Yes, Chris. How you doing this morning, man?
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  Unknown: Well, pretty well. This is a new headset I have on this morning. Sounds. Curious about the quality. The quality is real good. It's almost two full, isn't it, Paul?
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  Unknown: It is. It's too is too good. It's too full. Yeah. It's far too full. But that's okay. It's better than it's It's better
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  Unknown: than the alternative. So continue,
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  Chris.
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  Unknown: Well, what I was going to observe over Paul and benefits is I remember
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  it's probably been four or five years ago, maybe even six,
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  when I heard I think it was called the International
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  Financial
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  Association
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  or something of that nature. I know it was International Financial.
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  And it was a bunch of the stodgy old
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  bankers bankers, if you will, the ones that operate the BIS.
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  Trust and bay BIS.
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  Yes. And the oldest one, it was the spokesman for the panel.
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  He
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  related that they must maintain the course. Keep their shoulder to the wheel, steady as you go, maintain
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  the status quo. I remember was the phraseology.
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  And he counseled that
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  this populist
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  kerfuffle or uprising would blow over and everything would go back as it was.
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  At least that was his skewed view of reality,
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  and I'm not sure it's held
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  water.
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  Although,
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  this is the premise they've been operating from for
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  multi thousands of years on this planet.
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  The Korban kings, the kings of Korban take it because they can. The same ones that steal over those houses
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  that
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  oppress and suppress the people
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  are the Bound King gang.
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  And this is a dangerous group that's fighting against the yellow vest or the
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  whatever else you call them, the yellow jackets
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  in Europe against the new world war, the EU, the central Soviet ties trying
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  to collectivize
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  the whole
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  planet
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  under the one world system.
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  Unknown: Thank you very much. Let's not get them confused with the Georgia Tech bunch over there, Chris.
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  They're the yellow jackets. I agree. The yellow vests, and
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  Unknown: I did see a really much. Interesting video last night about seven or eight minutes by an attorney in France,
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  a 45 year old female,
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  had been practicing law since she was 22,
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  and she started holding up pictures
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  and the stuff that the press is suppressing
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  on how the French police are combating and have taken this at their dictate of their puppeteers,
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  have taken this shut that
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  demonstration
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  crap down,
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  and some of the weapons they're using, and how many people are losing eyes,
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  and she was holding these people up and reading out their names man,
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  and it is dramatic
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  and this yellow vest thing is a big problem for them.
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  Unknown: Well it is and you can tell that it's
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  a key problem in the sense of the intensity with which they're seeking to suppress it.
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  So
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  they're going about dealing with it in a way un western Christian like for obvious reasons.
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  Well they're having And you've got things like
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  Unknown: I'm
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  sorry to interrupt, they're having to resort to their usual tactics,
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  you know.
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  I heard a story of a guy that was up around the New York area and they had a bookstore. This is thirty thirty years ago. So, back in the 70s or the 80s and they had a little bookstore with all this type information in it, right? One day, these two goons walk in with baseball bats and smash the store and beat the crap out of them.
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  You know, this is their way. It's the only way they know. As Janda has said lately and I think it's a lot very accurate.
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  All they know how to do is play offense. They don't know how to play defense.
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  They've never had to.
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  Unknown: No, maybe not. Things are not going to go quite the way that they've ever gone for them before though, I mean it's still, you know, I'm not trying to get overly cocky one way or the other because
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  it's complicated, but they tend to revert to type.
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  Right now in France
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  you've got all these sorts of calls for things taking place from the Jewish community there.
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  They need to outlaw
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  anti Zionism
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  because it's a dog whistle for
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  anti Judaism or whatever you want to call it. So
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  can't outlaw these things. I mean you can, they can say that they've done it, but the fact is that in the actual
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  this is what
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  is why see, this is just my approach, I'm not saying that this is necessarily right, but I was talking to someone just the other day about, and I mentioned it here before, know the whole nature of the mountain of information that these guys have concocted, the subtle structures,
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  all of these so called power centers,
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  you can choose if you want to to spend your life unpicking them and I'm not saying that that's valueless, there are some people who are gonna do that but that's not for me.
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  I'm not interested
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  in unpicking a mess
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  not of my making, not of my choosing and that is being imposed on me. It's not my job to sort out the fact that there are crooks organizing stuff. What my job is, the way I view it myself,
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  my job is to bind with my own people and we redetermine
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  exactly how it is we're supposed to live and we dismiss the others
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  and we need and it needs to be that simple. I need to be able to communicate it very quickly because we don't have enough lifetimes left to unpick
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  the hundreds and thousands of years of guff that they've created, we just dismiss it. It's the Gordian knot thing, we're not gonna unpick it, I'm taking a sword to it but it's a big sword and we need a few hands on the tiller to wield it, but we've got to get really it's over there, what you do is you pick this up yeah and you just give it the most enormous blow and it's over, it's done. And I'm using poor metaphors but you get the idea, we've got to I feel that we have to think in that way because I get involved in conversations with people
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  and you've probably been involved in these similar conversations where
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  it
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  gets so wide ranging,
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  there's so much historical
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  analysis taking place in these multiple hour conversations, I bet we've all had them,
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  and I realized very early on that there's going to be no satisfactory
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  conclusion to that conversation,
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  none.
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  It's as if you can always come up with a more ancient causative reason for why things are oh it wasn't because of the Normans, it was because of these guys, it wasn't because of those guys, five hundred years before that it was these guys, but you know we're the ones that are alive now and a question I tend to ask myself is do I know enough to begin to get clear about what needs to be done?
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  The problem that we have of course is that we need people that we can communicate to
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  that are on that wavelength and that understand it and to try and make it attractive and the way to make it more attractive is to say
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  this is not as complicated as you think because we've de complicated it, but it is pretty savage I'm afraid because there's no avoiding it. It is what it is and
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  you know I understand why we want to George, I'm the same, I want to do it too, I wish there were a way through, it's just that as each day goes by there's less and less evidence to suggest
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  that that's going to be an effective path really, unfortunately. Well, you know Paul,
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  Unknown: after many years in the trenches here for me,
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  and it's been an up and down journey, okay, emotionally,
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  I've just had to face the reality
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  that the biblical
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  basis of this is is so correct and it says, come out of her, you know, and and it's there's only going to be a small
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  remnant left of people that are going to take heed the call and do that.
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  And the rest of them, even though
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  we would like to
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  join arms with them, they're not of that mindset for whatever reason.
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  So the And real thing that's hit me here over the last year, year and a half, especially since we've been doing this,
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  is that, no, the only person you can change in this world is you
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  and
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  you can think about and help and try to change others but you can't do it necessarily but you can change yourself
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  and so,
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  back to the strong individual and a group of strong individuals is the only way I know to do it
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  because it's not going to flash through the population
• 26:41
  like a like a prairie fire and
• 26:44
  I
• 26:45
  draw the analogy in our country with our people
• 26:49
  descended from you
• 26:52
  that only 3% of them wanted to fight the king.
• 26:59
  Unknown: Yes
• 27:00
  Only 3%.
• 27:01
  Unknown: I know. To five, somewhere in that range, five at the absolute most.
• 27:07
  Unknown: It would have been best if you hadn't done that.
• 27:14
  Would all turned out much much better, but you see the fix was in even here,
• 27:18
  the fix was in here long before even that rolled through you see. It's always about dealing with this embedded force that's
• 27:26
  perverting everything and this is you know, even going back to these conversations that span a great deal of history,
• 27:32
  you're involved in a mountain of
• 27:35
  mental the expenditure of mental energy and sifting because
• 27:39
  you realize after some the sooner the better of course that much of the history you're being given is history written by the victors. Yes. And everybody's
• 27:49
  aware of that, but you will often find I do even to this day that I've swallowed something down and
• 27:55
  I haven't had the bullshit detector on at full whack and I needed it because I'll suddenly go oh hang on no no no that's not right. And so
• 28:02
  you have to there's a lot to do with that and of course the other thing a male point of view I would say as well Roger, which is I don't know it's both a weakness and a strength, but this
• 28:12
  proclivity that we have understandably to be analytical,
• 28:16
  to be pragmatic about things and to analyse things is of course needed. You can't put bridges up or build locomotives or do it you can't do it without that sort of type of
• 28:25
  understanding,
• 28:26
  but it can actually work against us when we become mired in what is effectively an infinite line of information and
• 28:35
  you can almost like get bogged down in the whole thing and not see the wood for the trees.
• 28:41
  So it's always a fine line and I think we're always as individuals and as groups having to readjust. Mean what you said about strong groups is obviously true historically,
• 28:51
  it's just that when we also look at it we see that these things they go through a sort of you know an infancy, a childhood, a teenage years, a mature years, old age and they die. A cycle. And that's always unsatisfying,
• 29:04
  yes, I think we don't like that too I'd like to stop that. And I'd like to differentiate between just groups which can have tremendous
• 29:12
  Unknown: group psychology
• 29:13
  imposed upon them and they react to it pretty well and predictably
• 29:17
  versus a group of strong individuals
• 29:21
  where that's not the case because everybody's very discerning.
• 29:24
  Let me also just make an observation on something you said a minute ago, you said we shouldn't have done that.
• 29:30
  You know what?
• 29:31
  I would imagine we would have been in their new world order far sooner if we wouldn't have, because they would have had the colony under their total control from the start.
• 29:40
  Unknown: It would have been better, could let you see a previous generation would have sorted it out for us by now, we could have had a much happier time. Sure, sure. You're not thinking straight Roger. Yeah, yeah. No probably not, it would have matured in a different way but I think
• 29:54
  look I mean the other area
• 29:57
  we can take solace from I think is that you know the Genghis Khan scenario is that after he'd
• 30:02
  shut off everywhere building up this huge empire with pony expresses and everything back at base they all started fighting like rats over the power and it all got destroyed from within.
• 30:11
  That aspect still exists. It definitely exists
• 30:15
  Unknown: and it will take place, I'm sure of it in many, many ways. I've always thought. Look at our group. If we had if there were, say, a $100,000
• 30:23
  on the table and you had me and Chris and here comes Daryl calling in. Okay, Daryl, I'll get you right back, buddy.
• 30:29
  And you had us sitting around and
• 30:32
  there was this $100
• 30:34
  sitting there.
• 30:37
  Some people would be prone to grab it and screw the other guys, okay? So, even at our level that certainly takes place. You can imagine when the whole world's at stake.
• 30:48
  Unknown: Know you're
• 30:50
  reminding me I've got a friend you know, I have a colleague colleague's the right word I think who's just had that scenario play out that he's been working on a project for three years that he wants me to be involved with and I won't go into the details of it because there's no way I'll get involved with it. But just before Christmas he called me up he said he said I'm having a terrible time with these other guys. I said why is that? He said because he said we're very close to having money going on the table and they're all going crazy. I said now come on you've been here before you know exactly what happens.
• 31:19
  Everybody's great talking about ideas and then when it gets real and someone goes right there's £50,000,000
• 31:24
  or whatever it is, people go nuts. People's worst behavior comes out. Do they go, it's not even the fact that they need that money, they just don't want you to have it. It just goes berserk and go, oh, is that all it's about? You know, it's not that they want it, it's that you can't have it. That's what that's the main driver. That's right. You're not getting one over on me and you're going, well, can't we just all sort of divvy up and get on? But no, some personalities are not like that. So you can imagine at that level what goes on at the upper levels. Let me welcome Daryl to the conversation. Hey, Daryl.
• 31:56
  Unknown: Hey,
• 31:58
  Unknown: Roger.
• 31:59
  Roger,
• 32:01
  Paul, everybody.
• 32:03
  Unknown: Good morning, Roger. Hey. Good morning, Daryl. You are
• 32:07
  Unknown: you are dragging up some very
• 32:10
  interesting topics to me today.
• 32:14
  I I
• 32:16
  couldn't really resist.
• 32:20
  So I'll I'll start this off I'll start this off with a sort of obtuse question
• 32:26
  a sort of obtuse question.
• 32:29
  Are are any of you
• 32:31
  fellows
• 32:32
  familiar with how a tapeworm
• 32:35
  interacts with its host and and its body? Are
• 32:39
  you familiar with that? A little bit.
• 32:42
  Unknown: Not personally.
• 32:43
  Unknown: Well,
• 32:45
  yeah. Well, for for those that aren't aware of it,
• 32:50
  here's
• 32:51
  a metaphor for you.
• 32:55
  By whatever means the tapeworm
• 32:57
  is ingested
• 32:59
  into your body
• 33:01
  and
• 33:03
  over a period of time it grows
• 33:06
  and
• 33:07
  most people are unaware
• 33:10
  of
• 33:11
  being infected with tapeworm.
• 33:15
  They tend to typically be sort of on the skinny side over time
• 33:21
  But here's the trick. The tapeworm
• 33:23
  is biologically
• 33:25
  biologically,
• 33:27
  its nature
• 33:29
  has developed a means by which
• 33:33
  as you feed yourself,
• 33:35
  it takes those nutrients
• 33:39
  and
• 33:40
  it grows.
• 33:42
  And as it grows, it secretes,
• 33:44
  biologically
• 33:45
  secretes
• 33:47
  a chemical,
• 33:49
  a drug,
• 33:51
  back into your body
• 33:53
  that
• 33:54
  it
• 33:55
  craves
• 33:57
  and causes you to crave.
• 34:00
  And then it forms this negative feedback loop
• 34:04
  where
• 34:05
  you're constantly craving
• 34:07
  what is good for the tapeworms
• 34:11
  and
• 34:13
  negative effects for you.
• 34:16
  Okay. So that's that's my analogy,
• 34:19
  and
• 34:20
  and it's on a biological level. It's not a it's not a digital. It's it's biological.
• 34:27
  And
• 34:28
  so
• 34:31
  what's happened to us over
• 34:35
  truth seeking transparent people
• 34:38
  over time?
• 34:40
  The parasite has secreted
• 34:42
  things
• 34:43
  that will
• 34:44
  allow it to grow, and you're constantly hungry for what is good for it instead of good for you.
• 34:53
  And
• 34:55
  so this is,
• 34:57
  you know, a
• 34:58
  fairly straightforward analogy,
• 35:00
  I believe, of
• 35:02
  larger condition.
• 35:04
  The problem is with most people that are infected with a parasite like a tapeworm
• 35:09
  is first recognizing
• 35:12
  that they are.
• 35:14
  And
• 35:16
  so that's that's sort of the conundrum I think that that you've been talking about a lot here is
• 35:22
  the critical mass of
• 35:25
  people understanding that they're infected
• 35:28
  Unknown: with the tapeworm.
• 35:30
  Unknown: Yeah. It is. Yeah.
• 35:33
  Unknown: That's a key thing. I also
• 35:36
  I've also become aware more and more aware
• 35:40
  by
• 35:42
  applying some some principles
• 35:44
  that I learned a long time ago
• 35:47
  in aviation
• 35:48
  that
• 35:49
  in order to properly evaluate any situation
• 35:55
  of any magnitude,
• 35:57
  I had to stand
• 35:59
  farther and farther away from it. Yes. And the bigger the problem
• 36:03
  the bigger the problem
• 36:05
  or the more critical the problem,
• 36:07
  the farther I had to become detached
• 36:10
  from the outcome.
• 36:13
  And and people's frustration
• 36:16
  and reactive
• 36:18
  mechanisms
• 36:18
  inside their own biology,
• 36:23
  They you have to be you have to mature and and gain the wisdom of experience
• 36:28
  over time to learn how to stand back
• 36:31
  from things that you're passionate about.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:36
  the reason why I say this is is because,
• 36:39
  well, one, it works.
• 36:42
  And and two, you're dealing with an enemy,
• 36:45
  an adversary
• 36:47
  that is amoral.
• 36:51
  They don't see themselves being right or wrong. They just wanna win.
• 36:56
  They're
• 36:57
  a tapeworm.
• 36:58
  A tapeworm is amoral.
• 37:00
  And
• 37:03
  and and so
• 37:06
  another
• 37:07
  part of this sort of
• 37:09
  biological,
• 37:10
  psychological
• 37:11
  problem
• 37:13
  that manifests itself is
• 37:16
  we're
• 37:17
  all present. We're a lot of people, even those that are asleep,
• 37:22
  are at some level aware
• 37:25
  of a shadow,
• 37:26
  a silhouette
• 37:28
  of an enemy or an adversary,
• 37:32
  and they never see its face.
• 37:35
  They they
• 37:36
  they're aware of the shadow and the silhouette,
• 37:39
  but they never see the face.
• 37:42
  And they stay in silhouette
• 37:44
  so that they can
• 37:46
  mask themselves
• 37:49
  just like a tapeworm does with making you hungry.
• 37:53
  Unknown: Let me give a And let me So buttress one of your points, Darryl. Years ago,
• 37:59
  even before I got into this stuff, I used to watch a lot of PBS
• 38:03
  stuff,
• 38:03
  and they had a inter a program on PBS one night about Armenhammer.
• 38:09
  You remember him, Paul? Do you know who he was? Armenhammer?
• 38:13
  Unknown: Yes. I I know of him. The weapons guy with a funny name. Yes. Especially chosen for publicity purposes. I always think about him as the baking soda guy
• 38:23
  Unknown: because he owned one hammer baking soda.
• 38:26
  But
• 38:27
  after his death, he was
• 38:30
  he had a big art collection that circulated all over the world. I saw it. I went to it in Atlanta when I was in Atlanta one time.
• 38:37
  And they were interviewing
• 38:39
  in a program about oil.
• 38:41
  And this was a segment because he evidently had the lock on the Libyan
• 38:46
  sweet crude.
• 38:48
  Libya's got the sweetest crude oil in the world,
• 38:51
  and so they were interviewing the Chief Financial Officer of Arm and Hammer, his main company,
• 38:57
  and the guy said,
• 38:58
  very very straightforward,
• 39:00
  not not one of the enemy, one of our kind of guys,
• 39:04
  and he's talking about Arm and Hammer, and he said, Arm and Hammer was not immoral,
• 39:10
  He was amoral.
• 39:12
  And
• 39:13
  that stuck with me even from thirty five or more years ago, okay? And and and Daryl just brought that point out and the big, there's a big difference there, okay?
• 39:25
  Some people know when they're doing wrong. These people have no wrong.
• 39:29
  Everything is skewed for them.
• 39:35
  Unknown: Well,
• 39:37
  that's the the reason that stuck with you, Roger, is because
• 39:42
  it's true.
• 39:43
  Unknown: Yep.
• 39:44
  Unknown: And
• 39:46
  so
• 39:48
  we
• 39:50
  sort of have to
• 39:52
  that's that's a part of standing back,
• 39:55
  keeping a distance. You know,
• 39:57
  here's the counterintuitive part. So many things in life are counterintuitive.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:05
  so
• 40:06
  the the the more you invest
• 40:10
  yourself into the outcome of the thing,
• 40:14
  the more it slips away from you. True.
• 40:18
  People that people that chase love are lonely. Mhmm. People that want money are broke.
• 40:26
  People that would want justice are oppressed.
• 40:31
  And
• 40:32
  the reason is because
• 40:35
  they're they're operating
• 40:37
  on lot of times and understandably
• 40:41
  a motion.
• 40:44
  And
• 40:46
  the one thing that you notice if you watch
• 40:49
  our adversaries,
• 40:51
  whatever title or
• 40:53
  they hold politician,
• 40:55
  whatever
• 40:56
  sect, whatever
• 40:59
  company,
• 41:00
  spokesperson,
• 41:01
  NGO, you always notice that they're very cool.
• 41:05
  They're amoral.
• 41:07
  The
• 41:08
  only time they get excited is when it's an act.
• 41:13
  And so
• 41:15
  this is this other counterintuitive
• 41:17
  part of this is that we have to is is we're dealing with a a biology.
• 41:24
  I
• 41:25
  that's
• 41:27
  and
• 41:28
  and we had to stay calm. We had to stay very calm and
• 41:32
  and be very deliberate.
• 41:34
  And
• 41:36
  personally,
• 41:37
  if I might,
• 41:40
  what I've done for the last over the course, it's taken me twenty years.
• 41:45
  But
• 41:46
  piece by piece, I have gained autonomy
• 41:51
  to a degree.
• 41:53
  And
• 41:54
  also along with that
• 41:56
  anonymity.
• 41:59
  And so
• 42:00
  whatever I do, I do
• 42:04
  pretty much on an autonomous level and
• 42:07
  as an individual cell.
• 42:10
  And
• 42:13
  and I don't try to sell anybody anything. Nope. Nope. But
• 42:17
  I I try to ask them. I try to I engage them
• 42:21
  in calm,
• 42:24
  compassionate
• 42:25
  conversation,
• 42:27
  and I admit to using leading questions.
• 42:32
  And
• 42:34
  I do that so that I can take them down paths
• 42:39
  that they'd never even in their wildest dreams ever considered.
• 42:43
  And
• 42:44
  I I find it to be more and more effective all the time. How
• 42:48
  Unknown: is it up there in in
• 42:50
  up in the Gadsden area in the people that you regularly
• 42:54
  have interacted with for some years now like the guys down at the gun shop?
• 42:59
  Are are any of those people now turning and coming and inquiring
• 43:03
  you on any of these things?
• 43:08
  Unknown: That's a great question.
• 43:11
  It's taken me probably about this long to
• 43:15
  gain a certain amount of credibility
• 43:18
  and respect,
• 43:20
  so
• 43:21
  that doesn't happen
• 43:22
  overnight.
• 43:25
  The
• 43:26
  the gun people
• 43:28
  are
• 43:32
  oh,
• 43:33
  they're they're very polite. We have a really very very good relationship,
• 43:38
  but
• 43:39
  they're not
• 43:41
  they're not interested in the the the information at large. I'll tell you who is though,
• 43:47
  is
• 43:48
  my neighbors.
• 43:51
  And
• 43:54
  and my my local post office.
• 43:58
  The two ladies that work in there are
• 44:01
  all over this now.
• 44:02
  Really? They're
• 44:04
  actually
• 44:04
  they're actually working off a
• 44:07
  a list of
• 44:10
  four books that I've given them. And
• 44:12
  I just talked to them yesterday, and they go, well, I ordered the book, but the print's too small. You know? And we started to laugh. Oh, understand that one. There's nothing worse.
• 44:22
  Yeah. So, I mean, this is this but I I do this it it's taken me years to gain their
• 44:31
  Unknown: It's Years. It's a process. And not hammer them. And Yeah. It is. You and you have to be yeah. Go ahead. No. I was just gonna say that's what I keep hammering to the audience. It's not an event. It's a process.
• 44:44
  It doesn't matter what stage that you're at. It's still a process.
• 44:52
  Unknown: Right. Yeah. And that's that's that's a huge point that you just made, Roger. It's it so huge. I I can't even begin to overemphasize. It can't be overemphasized
• 45:04
  is that
• 45:05
  this process
• 45:07
  is why
• 45:08
  our adversary
• 45:10
  can afford to be and has been so amoral and very patient.
• 45:15
  They're deliberate. They're consistent.
• 45:18
  They're patient.
• 45:20
  And
• 45:21
  because they understand something
• 45:24
  that
• 45:26
  the normies
• 45:28
  don't get.
• 45:30
  Normies respond
• 45:32
  or react
• 45:34
  to events,
• 45:36
  and they they they process
• 45:38
  information and in their own lives, they go from event to event with
• 45:45
  incorrect
• 45:46
  assumptions.
• 45:48
  Whereas
• 45:48
  the adversary,
• 45:52
  the tapeworm,
• 45:53
  you know, leads
• 45:55
  the process
• 45:57
  so
• 45:58
  so
• 45:58
  incredibly
• 45:59
  slow that
• 46:01
  it generationally
• 46:03
  isn't apparent or transparent
• 46:05
  to the next. You're right. And, of course, that of course, that's, that's a great,
• 46:12
  strategy.
• 46:15
  And and so if you go if you go back to,
• 46:20
  my favorite
• 46:21
  my favorite whipping whipping boys, if you will,
• 46:25
  the Rhodes Trust,
• 46:26
  and
• 46:29
  look at the documented
• 46:31
  timelines and evidence, you you really start to see
• 46:36
  the
• 46:37
  coalescence
• 46:38
  of the strategies
• 46:39
  of Cecil
• 46:41
  Rose and his his trust administrators
• 46:44
  generationally
• 46:45
  and the NGOs and the organizations,
• 46:49
  the quasi supernational
• 46:51
  political structures that are in place,
• 46:55
  and then the the political players on a large hole. So if you look at you look at Israel, well, who are they in bed with?
• 47:03
  Well, they're they're in bed with the
• 47:06
  UN even though they they
• 47:08
  they they're they're oh, we have all these, you know, we have all these little things,
• 47:13
  these UN resolutions against Israel, but there's no consequences. Right? So it's like, oh, poor Israel. They're being picked on.
• 47:20
  All the while, they're they're pulling the strings.
• 47:23
  Or or are they? Who's pulling the strings? Is Israel pulling its own strings, or are they part of this? Let me. Oh, I I would offer. Go ahead. Address what you just said
• 47:33
  Unknown: this is important point. I heard somebody bring it out on a conversation the other night.
• 47:37
  Israel is the only country in history
• 47:40
  that was given statehood by the UN.
• 47:44
  So, the UN's their daddy,
• 47:46
  okay? But yet the UN comes out with 80 or 90 of these resolutions
• 47:51
  against them and they don't follow any of em. So, they don't even they don't even respond to their daddy.
• 47:58
  Yeah.
• 48:01
  Unknown: Right. Well, I well, that's be that's because
• 48:04
  that's
• 48:05
  because, you know, that just gives them
• 48:09
  it gives the presidency while you're while while Israel's over here kicking and screaming and yelling antisemitism,
• 48:16
  whatever the heck that means.
• 48:22
  Antisemitism
• 48:23
  means anti
• 48:24
  Unknown: Antisemitism,
• 48:25
  Darryl, means anti white.
• 48:27
  Unknown: Well, know what? You remember, this is the great This
• 48:31
  Unknown: is the great line. Ain't the Jewish people. The great line
• 48:36
  Unknown: from Joseph Sobran.
• 48:38
  Okay?
• 48:39
  Antisemitism
• 48:40
  is not someone who hates Jews.
• 48:43
  Antisemitism
• 48:44
  is someone who Jews hate.
• 48:50
  Unknown: That's right. I'm making the small and it may appear to be pedantic point but it needs to be clarified
• 48:56
  Jews are not Semites, never were, never not now, never ever will be. We are though.
• 49:02
  Is what's weird about this. Yet again, so it's a really prime example of the inversion of language The dialect here,
• 49:08
  there, and everywhere to keep keep you off balance. The dialectical
• 49:12
  Unknown: nature of their entire plot.
• 49:16
  Unknown: Yeah. It's very effective. Well, the
• 49:18
  Unknown: the synonym
• 49:20
  the the synonym of dialectical
• 49:22
  is is is simply logic.
• 49:25
  And so
• 49:26
  if I can if I can get you off balance from using
• 49:31
  logic
• 49:31
  or
• 49:32
  get you trained
• 49:34
  in your axiomatic
• 49:36
  thinking,
• 49:36
  axioms of thinking,
• 49:39
  to logical fallacies,
• 49:41
  then
• 49:42
  I can I can control the outcome
• 49:45
  through,
• 49:45
  nuance and pretense?
• 49:48
  And, of course, every every accomplished lawyer learns this early,
• 49:53
  whether you're trying to get a sugar cookie or
• 49:56
  dad accused to your dad's car.
• 49:58
  K?
• 50:00
  And
• 50:01
  so
• 50:03
  but but while while all this hysteria
• 50:06
  is going on about, oh, the
• 50:09
  the poor the poor
• 50:12
  Semites,
• 50:13
  tongue in cheek here.
• 50:15
  What else is going on?
• 50:17
  Okay.
• 50:19
  And and,
• 50:20
  you know, who
• 50:24
  if if you go back if you go back into the early nineteen hundreds, you see that
• 50:29
  Lord Balfour of course, we're all familiar with that name.
• 50:33
  If you go back to Lord Balfour, what
• 50:35
  what secret organization was he a part of?
• 50:39
  Well, he was he was
• 50:42
  a part of a secret organization that has no name and still doesn't.
• 50:48
  And
• 50:50
  they
• 50:51
  this was this was I I call them the the Rhodes Trust.
• 50:56
  And
• 50:58
  so if
• 50:59
  if people if, you know, like, I think you said earlier, Paul, you you have to have this
• 51:04
  something to the effect, you know, if your perspective isn't based upon the historical nature of things,
• 51:11
  then, you know, you're you're gonna reach wrong conclusions. I I kinda butchered that, but you inferred that.
• 51:17
  And
• 51:18
  and and that's a great place to start for a lot of people to really start to get your head around
• 51:23
  even the bigger picture.
• 51:26
  I I'm actually saying this. I'll make a point blank statement.
• 51:30
  Israel
• 51:31
  is the
• 51:33
  is the
• 51:36
  the emotional scapegoat
• 51:38
  to keep people
• 51:40
  and the whole the whole anti Semitic thing is is to keep you keep you focused on that.
• 51:46
  It's a it's a red herring.
• 51:48
  And and the people and they use that
• 51:51
  they use that to leverage the the rest of their their agenda.
• 51:56
  So if you if you go back to the Royal Institute of International Affairs
• 52:02
  set up in the early nineteen hundreds.
• 52:05
  Well, actually, it was I think that was right right around World War one.
• 52:11
  The
• 52:14
  they they wanted a
• 52:16
  they they wanted a similar branch in The United States, but they they figured that, you know, that wouldn't that wouldn't go real well in The United States,
• 52:25
  Royal Institute of International Affairs.
• 52:28
  So they called it the Council for Foreign Relations.
• 52:31
  Same people. It's
• 52:34
  well well, who are these people? Where did they come out of? They come out of the Rhodes Trust.
• 52:38
  Where is the Rhodes prod Rhodes Trust? Well,
• 52:41
  you know, don't take this personal, Paul, but it comes out of Britain.
• 52:45
  Okay? And
• 52:47
  and,
• 52:50
  listen. I I think the I think the English people have been on the leading edge of
• 52:56
  being
• 52:58
  abused for
• 53:00
  a long time. Yep. And
• 53:02
  I think it I think it all really does. At this point, there's been many players over time, and a lot of people don't really understand what role they're playing in it because it it operates in circles
• 53:14
  and and compartmentalize
• 53:15
  information.
• 53:16
  Hence, they don't even have a name.
• 53:18
  But,
• 53:19
  I think you'll find that the center of it actually
• 53:24
  and its agenda
• 53:26
  has been accomplished.
• 53:29
  And
• 53:32
  this are you Paul, have you ever heard of this guy by name of Griffin?
• 53:38
  He wrote the
• 53:40
  creature from Jekyll Island.
• 53:42
  Unknown: Yeah. I've got the book just sat here by my right ear. Yeah. I read that a few years ago. Yeah.
• 53:47
  Unknown: Well,
• 53:49
  for
• 53:50
  to to bring everybody who isn't aware of this aspect of
• 53:55
  the I call these people the silhouette. They are the shadow.
• 54:02
  There's a Geo or Griffin on YouTube.
• 54:07
  If you go to and watch this YouTube with Geo or Griffin,
• 54:11
  it's called the
• 54:13
  the Quigley Formula.
• 54:15
  Quigley.
• 54:17
  The Quigley Formula.
• 54:19
  And
• 54:21
  maybe one of the very best,
• 54:24
  you know, presentations and explanations I've ever seen that is,
• 54:29
  you know, in my opinion, spot on.
• 54:33
  And
• 54:34
  that's just for the listening audience. You know?
• 54:40
  Unknown: You know that
• 54:41
  G. Edward Griffin was commissioned by John Birch
• 54:45
  to write that book to attempt to overshadow
• 54:48
  Eustace Mullins' book?
• 54:55
  I I I wouldn't know. Yeah. Well, I heard Eustace say that himself. Yeah. Okay. So Yeah.
• 55:04
  Unknown: Well, we can't underestimate
• 55:06
  the number of intrigues
• 55:08
  and
• 55:09
  Unknown: that have gone on. I think the other thing the other thing Daryl I was gonna say is that the number of
• 55:16
  I'm not unaware of these groups, you know, having read quite a bit on them, but there's always a new one coming out that you never heard about
• 55:23
  like there's the Pilgrim Society and then there's and there's loads of them, there's the Fabian Society, all They're these
• 55:30
  all true, they do all exist, they're all sort of munching away doing the same old stuff
• 55:35
  And
• 55:36
  and so I but this is just me personally, I've just hit a point where I kinda like don't care. It's not that I'm willfully not For
• 55:44
  me personally, I've looked enough.
• 55:46
  I go, I've got extra days left in my life
• 55:50
  and
• 55:51
  am I supposed to spend that time plowing through
• 55:55
  the CAC that these retards have been putting together? I don't want that. What I'm what I'm personally looking for
• 56:02
  is to try and find people who are ignited,
• 56:05
  who are lit up, that's what I want to bind with those people and
• 56:10
  say do you know how you want to live? This is we know you know, I've said this before, we know we don't want to live because these guys are just you know mucking about with man made plans over and over again and I come back to this thing about the law, the commandments and all this other stuff. This is just
• 56:25
  I'm gonna call it a theory but I think it's a lot more than that.
• 56:28
  That stuff is not designed
• 56:31
  in other words life has not been designed so that to get on in it you have to be a rocket scientist or plot the overthrow of humanity or form a secret society. You don't need to do any of those things
• 56:42
  to lead a really clean minded
• 56:45
  spiritually
• 56:46
  rewarding life. The problem we've got of course is that those little clusters of demons
• 56:52
  have managed to acquire a little bit too much power for our liking and of course we're kind of behind in terms of understanding most people are pretty much behind
• 57:01
  in terms of understanding how that's all come about, although it becomes pretty clear rather quickly. But what I think we can say is how do we want to live? It's the lack of commitment
• 57:10
  by our people to living the good life and being clear about what it is that's the problem. If you say,
• 57:16
  as I do, well you know if I was to pay it's not utopia, I'm not going for that because I expect
• 57:23
  and believe that just like you need mustard in a sandwich to go, you've got to have a spicy bit every now and again, it might not be to everybody's liking but you're gonna have to have it because it exists and it's gonna turn up. But
• 57:35
  if you were to ask me well what's your kind of ideal scenario? I would be saying well I'd be living in a nation
• 57:42
  that was all my own people, that's the first thing, and there might be other people there from different races and cultures, but they wouldn't have any power in my nation, they wouldn't have any voting rights,
• 57:52
  they wouldn't have any they wouldn't have any positions in banking or government or education or the law or media ownership.
• 57:59
  If they were here they'd only be here on a very controlled regulated basis and would be done very civil,
• 58:04
  but they wouldn't be here forever
• 58:06
  and they wouldn't have their religious institutions or buildings here either, don't get that? Just like I wouldn't want mine elsewhere,
• 58:12
  that's the first thing. And then it would be made up of families,
• 58:16
  the bulk of the population would be involved in a family either as a parent or as a child,
• 58:22
  and only people in families with children would get the vote and really only the man, I'm quite serious about this, only the man gets the vote. There are many things about the old way that actually work, they work to our nature, you were talking about biology, they just work right.
• 58:36
  Now these ideas are not even There was a reason for it. There's reason for it. There's
• 58:40
  absolutely a reason, it's like over thousands of years it just worked. Why did it work? Well because
• 58:44
  a man a male to turn into a man needs that type of responsibility
• 58:49
  and a female to turn into a woman needs that type of responsibility and guess what, when you get it going on
• 58:55
  a huge bulk of people become very happy,
• 58:58
  they become very strong, they also become calm,
• 59:01
  they think about things in a simpler way and they don't waste their time having to study
• 59:06
  psychological politics and metaphysical understanding because all that stuff is kind of like to me the more I've looked at it and I've looked at a lot of it, it's like the detritus of the mind it's just human minds
• 59:19
  seeking to do it whereas in fact there's actually some laws that exist here and now
• 59:24
  and when we step this is my
• 59:27
  it's a goal that I've got the moment, I'm stress testing this in my own life, when we move back into those
• 59:33
  laws,
• 59:34
  I believe we acquire like a parasite repellent
• 59:38
  naturally,
• 59:39
  we don't even know we've got it, They just don't wanna be around us. No one does. They go, oh, we don't wanna be around people like that. Good. Yeah. We don't want you around either.
• 59:47
  Unknown: I've Because you do different stuff. I've experienced that I think it's gonna happen. I've experienced that personally.
• 59:57
  Unknown: Yeah. I do. I think that's, you know, I I've I've mentioned it before. I've I've had discussions in the pub. I'll be having some tomorrow night. In fact, I'm looking forward to tomorrow night because there's a guy last week started to recite a poem, and he got stuck halfway through. I said, you're not doing this to me next week. Next week, I want the whole poem all the way through your I said, no pressure. Right. You've gotta get it right. So I'm gonna go to this. It's not a particularly profound poem. It's very silly.
• 1:00:22
  Paul,
• 1:00:23
  Unknown: I I I'm in
• 1:00:25
  I'm in pretty
• 1:00:27
  much agreement with what you just said.
• 1:00:31
  The
• 1:00:32
  for those of us that have gone down these rabbit holes,
• 1:00:37
  if we can
• 1:00:39
  take that and and, you know, like a like a good roux on a stove or a broth,
• 1:00:45
  reduce it down to its essence
• 1:00:48
  and direct people
• 1:00:49
  that are
• 1:00:51
  literally twenty or thirty years behind where
• 1:00:54
  you and I have gone and and others.
• 1:00:58
  If we can if we can give them
• 1:01:02
  the reduced the the concentrated
• 1:01:04
  version of a source to say
• 1:01:08
  here
• 1:01:09
  so they can they can watch an hour and a half video or read four books.
• 1:01:14
  And if their heart
• 1:01:15
  is in the right place, they'll get it.
• 1:01:18
  They don't have to spend the next
• 1:01:20
  ten years of their life reading fine print. I think you've been talking to That's why I bring it up. Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Unknown: No I think you're right because I think like there was an example of something really insane this week, I mean there's an example of something insane every couple of hours around here.
• 1:01:35
  What was the insane thing last week? Alright,
• 1:01:38
  so
• 1:01:39
  Conservative Party don't conserve anything, I mean these are just labels in name only now, the whole thing's meaningless right?
• 1:01:45
  So
• 1:01:46
  these toddlesome fools that are in charge of things, they have decided that five year olds in Britain at school will be taught about transgenderism
• 1:01:56
  and
• 1:01:57
  sodomy,
• 1:01:58
  they've decided and that'll be compulsory and if you try and get out of it that will be deemed to be illegal,
• 1:02:03
  okay.
• 1:02:04
  So right now when you hear something and see something like that it's reported in detail it was actually in Russia today I have to go to Russia. That's the only place you get the real news.
• 1:02:14
  Well it is but then they're controlled as well you have to find out where their money comes from so you know I just go shut
• 1:02:20
  up everybody
• 1:02:21
  you you're all just having a go. But let's look at that for what it is. I was on some email list, everyone's getting outraged and I said why?
• 1:02:29
  What are getting outraged for? I said are they in charge of your life? This is it's an internal decision that's got to be made and we've got to stand with people that are saying okay you want to do that,
• 1:02:41
  my kids are not and my grandkids are not going, you even come near me, I'll kill you.
• 1:02:45
  Or something to that effect. Now me saying it aloud is useless,
• 1:02:48
  this
• 1:02:49
  is why I think it's very much a numbers game, so when now we do get back to this thing about speaking to people and actually igniting them, getting them to stand back in their trousers again and go are you present right? Are you actually are you behind your eyes? Because that's the main problem that we've got with a lot of people that they're not.
• 1:03:06
  But I would say well this is a great opportunity with this, what we need is we need to build now our online video schooling system, so let's build it. Why do we in
• 1:03:14
  other words everything that's coming at us,
• 1:03:17
  I think just about everything, is an opportunity to spin it round 180
• 1:03:21
  degrees, put it in a positive frame and say
• 1:03:24
  we'll do it this way and it's not because I'm permanently positive, honest believe you me, not, I have my dark days of the tea time of the soul just like everybody else does, But it seems to me that that is a path that would work, we take responsibility for the situation even if we didn't do it. It's like okay, you're up to that, we're not doing that, thanks very much, we'll come back to see you in twenty years, you let us know it gets on okay, but we're not doing
• 1:03:48
  this, Because this works for us and we have to get that confidence about our communication. When I see a lot of people writing,
• 1:03:56
  they're not writing with any real personal force,
• 1:04:00
  they're writing from a point of view of oh we've made teams the government's done it to us again
• 1:04:06
  if you say so.
• 1:04:08
  Unknown: They're volunteering
• 1:04:11
  Unknown: into victimhood.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah
• 1:04:15
  and when you do it by personal sort of I'm
• 1:04:17
  stood on this ground, I talk like don't like it go away. That's
• 1:04:22
  Unknown: what I was saying earlier you know the only people that you can change is you.
• 1:04:27
  We've got to do this by people changing themselves
• 1:04:31
  Okay? And then like Daryl, like Daryl's example, then you start living it because you're now changed
• 1:04:38
  and you manifest that manifest that in how you live your day to day life and other people notice.
• 1:04:47
  Unknown: It's really that that is it and of course I would say that the ground rule for that or the guide that will that does and is proven to guide us the best and I had this conversation in the pub a few months ago, I only I only got to the pub once a week and speak to other people once a week, no that's not true, I actually I do try to speak to people more than that.
• 1:05:07
  I was talking to the guy, we're talking about the law and I got around to talking about the 10 Commandments
• 1:05:11
  and he said oh it's a lot of rubbish there. I said no you missed the point,
• 1:05:15
  I said there's only 10 of them right?
• 1:05:17
  Obviously there's the now. I said there's 10.
• 1:05:20
  I said they take about three
• 1:05:21
  minutes to read,
• 1:05:23
  probably even less to understand, I said because it's nailed into you, that stuff, you understand it whether you can even repeat them to me or not. I said your son
• 1:05:32
  you can read them to him and he'll know and that covers 98% of everything you're ever gonna need, think about that. I said, what are you saying that we've got to embrace all this other stuff? I saw a phrase come across my desk the other day, you know these Noahide laws? Yes. I go that's not a law, it's the Noahide whims I call them,
• 1:05:50
  the whims of the bearded ones, the ones that can't shave.
• 1:05:54
  You
• 1:05:55
  you
• 1:05:56
  you know, got some guy in a large house who doesn't even know where one end of a razor from another and he starts talking about Noah Hyde Law, he's got nothing to do with Noah. These people are sort of deranged, go that's a very good comedy act. You see we have to burst their bubble, they need to know, they need to know, but you can't do it a lot because then they pick you off.
• 1:06:14
  So we do need numbers, this is a marketing exercise, we should view it as a business, it's marketing.
• 1:06:20
  And when I used to do marketing stuff, you have all these sort of little acronyms to make sure that when you go and brief with a client, there's nothing rocket science y about this, I'm sure it's evolved way beyond my primitive levels back in the 80s,
• 1:06:31
  but I used to have who, why, what, where, and where you know, who are you talking to, what is it you want to sell them, why should they buy it, where are these people, and when do we get started,
• 1:06:41
  when do you want them to buy it, just stuff like that. Now
• 1:06:45
  we need a marketing brief. Who is it we want to speak to? Other white people, I do. Why? Because they're gonna die if I don't speak to them.
• 1:06:52
  And I don't and why why is that important to you? Because I actually like them being around because without them I'm nothing
• 1:06:58
  and without me they're nothing, although it's not about me, but you know what I mean? That relationship between one and the and the crew.
• 1:07:04
  What is it that binds us together? Well, it's gonna be our blood. We're gonna get into some really serious stuff, and the top of the tree is race.
• 1:07:12
  It's just it's unavoidable whether anybody likes it or not. It's the most potent four letter word in the Anglo Saxon lexicon of them all
• 1:07:19
  without a doubt because everybody shuffles and starts looking down at the floor every time I bring it up, so I know that it's the one to keep going now.
• 1:07:27
  People are just absolutely you know and I was the same ten years ago, we can't talk about that polite company, I do point out that there isn't any polite company left, it's all gone.
• 1:07:36
  It's like me turn up you know and start shouting and hitting the table and going don't you understand what's going on! You know, but
• 1:07:44
  it's to get it across,
• 1:07:46
  it's lively stuff and sometimes,
• 1:07:48
  you know, the other thing, the other principle was that energy does transform
• 1:07:53
  and you only have to look
• 1:07:54
  at mister Hitler letting go behind those microphones to see what happens.
• 1:08:00
  When it's done right, when it's organized, the effect is unbelievable,
• 1:08:03
  it's like a thousand atom bombs going off, and that's available to us and it's always been available to us irrespective of technology. It's available to us, but it's gonna take some
• 1:08:14
  clear thinking and plugging right back in and speaking to the right people in the right hall on the right night at the right time about the right things,
• 1:08:23
  it'll just cut like a knife through butter and people go oh yeah, oh yeah of course they go of course it's obvious and that's what you're looking for, of course it's obvious, here we go, now we're on our way.
• 1:08:32
  Unknown: Well that ability
• 1:08:35
  to do that
• 1:08:36
  is not something that you'll read in a book or
• 1:08:41
  watch a YouTube for or
• 1:08:44
  come out of committee.
• 1:08:46
  No. That's how that's how our adversary
• 1:08:49
  organizes their operations is by committee
• 1:08:53
  and and through compartmentalization
• 1:08:56
  with talking points.
• 1:08:59
  And so you you're you're talking about
• 1:09:03
  a a
• 1:09:05
  an informed number of people
• 1:09:08
  that can spontaneously
• 1:09:10
  and extemporaneously
• 1:09:13
  get on point with the right message
• 1:09:16
  to any given audience.
• 1:09:20
  And
• 1:09:22
  so that's a
• 1:09:24
  a that's human that's a that's a man thing. That's a man and woman thing. That's that's being able to relate, know your information,
• 1:09:31
  but also being able to generally
• 1:09:34
  transparently relate
• 1:09:37
  truths to these people. So for example,
• 1:09:40
  a couple weeks ago, I'm over in Georgia.
• 1:09:43
  I'm having a a business conversation with a guy over there that owns a a trike company.
• 1:09:50
  They they do trike conversions. They turn motorcycles into trikes.
• 1:09:54
  And I'm over there. I'm in his office with his office manager and his wife and
• 1:10:00
  their daughter.
• 1:10:01
  One one thing leads to another.
• 1:10:04
  We're into a conversation.
• 1:10:06
  It's two and a half hours later when the conversation is done.
• 1:10:10
  They're,
• 1:10:12
  you know,
• 1:10:13
  strong believers in the word,
• 1:10:15
  and
• 1:10:18
  and we've done business together for a number of years. And
• 1:10:23
  so through the part of that conversation,
• 1:10:26
  I was I was very calm
• 1:10:29
  and
• 1:10:31
  very compassionate.
• 1:10:33
  And
• 1:10:35
  I was able to
• 1:10:37
  very slowly,
• 1:10:38
  very logically
• 1:10:41
  demonstrate to them that
• 1:10:44
  they don't live
• 1:10:48
  under
• 1:10:49
  law,
• 1:10:50
  that they are actually
• 1:10:53
  living under
• 1:10:54
  the Justiceville,
• 1:10:57
  and
• 1:10:58
  they
• 1:11:00
  don't have any
• 1:11:02
  contact or or access to what they would consider
• 1:11:06
  the constitution.
• 1:11:08
  And I showed them how
• 1:11:10
  their their municipal counties
• 1:11:13
  and local governments
• 1:11:15
  were using
• 1:11:16
  Roman law
• 1:11:18
  and
• 1:11:19
  that they were,
• 1:11:21
  in effect, citizens of Rome.
• 1:11:24
  And this took two and a half hours
• 1:11:27
  and
• 1:11:28
  involved using
• 1:11:30
  a lot of scripture out of the Bible.
• 1:11:33
  And
• 1:11:34
  when I left,
• 1:11:36
  the office manager says
• 1:11:38
  well, Aisha says, have one question for you, though. I go, what's that? She goes, how do we get you over here every Friday afternoon
• 1:11:44
  for a for a couple hours? And
• 1:11:48
  and so now they're they're basically on a reading program.
• 1:11:52
  And
• 1:11:53
  because they didn't really
• 1:11:55
  they could sense the shadow. They could see the silhouette, but they didn't know the face of what they were actually living under.
• 1:12:02
  And nobody had been able been able to ever explain to them that the law they're living on living under is a is a foreign law, is alien to their their values
• 1:12:12
  and and their principles
• 1:12:15
  and and the word.
• 1:12:17
  And
• 1:12:19
  so
• 1:12:20
  it literally
• 1:12:22
  you know, I had the conversation with him about what the bible
• 1:12:27
  at one of it's many things, but at its root level, it's a law book.
• 1:12:31
  And whose law are you going to live under?
• 1:12:34
  And
• 1:12:37
  for it to be law,
• 1:12:40
  Unknown: Daryl, was gonna say for it to be law,
• 1:12:42
  it's got to be
• 1:12:44
  apprehendable
• 1:12:45
  and comprehendable by the vast majority
• 1:12:49
  of IQ. Right. It's got to be. Right. Yeah. It just otherwise it can't be law. Well that's See because what we're looking for is not it's not so much that the law's forcing us,
• 1:12:59
  but that we know that we're stood with our kith and kin who've got it and you go, I am pretty safe amongst my own, which is how we all want to be because I understand that they understand the ground rules.
• 1:13:12
  When we are with others, it's not even I don't even look for them to understand my ground rules, I don't think they should, I don't think they should be obliged to, I'm not interested in working them into my space,
• 1:13:23
  neither should they be interested in me working and them working me into theirs, it's a complete nonsense.
• 1:13:29
  So the whole context was sort of globalism
• 1:13:32
  is basically about sticking two fingers up at nature, that's all it's about, it's saying hey we're some clever blokes who had a privileged life and we have plenty of money, and I'll tell you what, I've got a great idea, why don't we run the world and all this, of course it's not really all English guys, but there are Freemasons from England who've obviously made a hellish contribution to this insanity,
• 1:13:50
  I understand that.
• 1:13:53
  I don't see them as the primary cause but it doesn't really matter, put your back to that grindstone, you're just as gilly as everybody else and they shouldn't be doing it, but that's that's for them to you know, they're gonna have to give an account for themselves I'm sure higher up the food chain as things
• 1:14:06
  things evolve, but for us
• 1:14:08
  simplicity is the key. Why is it? It seems to me you know we we understand the fundamentals of farming I'm not a farmer but I understand that if we don't get farming right you can kiss all this goodbye.
• 1:14:19
  So you know and all the decision making once back in the law is a doddle, you go why is the food bad? Oh, you're sticking these agrochemicals,
• 1:14:27
  right? Well, that's that bad, get rid of that. Right? Why is everybody broke? Oh, because you got a central bank, right? Get rid shut that down, everybody can own that. And people go, no no, what about our business interests? We go, sorry, they're not included, we don't do that. You're in the wrong place, you need to go somewhere else where they do all that stupid stuff, we're not doing that, we don't do that. And these conversations don't exist, I mean we're having we're touching on it a bit here, but this sort of conversation, this framework of
• 1:14:53
  anchoring people into who they are,
• 1:14:55
  not what they're not all this progress done, oh we're progressing, I don't want to progress, I'm not interested,
• 1:15:01
  I want to be what I am, that's much more exciting, why don't we get back to that? Don't want to progress, I want to conserve.
• 1:15:09
  Yeah,
• 1:15:10
  of course we don't have a conservative, I mean I came across the thing with a conservative party here in The UK
• 1:15:15
  and up to the point of Benjamin Disraeli becoming the leader in the 1800s, who's pivotal by the way of course in the run up to all the cluster of demons you've been addressing as well Darrell, but
• 1:15:26
  prior to the arrival of Disraeli at the helm of the Conservative Party
• 1:15:30
  for a hundred and nearly
• 1:15:33
  two hundred years, the Conservative Party had fought against the Bank of England. It was the party against the Bank of England.
• 1:15:39
  When Disraeli came in, know, his chums were, that all changed and it never went back, and they've been useless ever since.
• 1:15:46
  So the fact is that other people are we have allowed them to communicate
• 1:15:52
  in our halls, to stand in our meeting places,
• 1:15:56
  to bend the ears of our forefathers and unfortunately
• 1:15:59
  they listened.
• 1:16:00
  And this is just there's nothing they've got nothing to contribute to us
• 1:16:05
  at all,
• 1:16:06
  nothing
• 1:16:07
  nothing at all. So I think it begins a really basic, you send them to Coventry, that's lovely, you're very clever, I understand all that, it's got nothing to do with us, you need to go away and go away you can do that, bye bye, we don't do that here.
• 1:16:21
  It's about real estate, location, and being with the ones that you're gonna get on with. I'm trying to look this is clumsy, I admit that, but I think it's a matter of boiling it down
• 1:16:31
  to really simple stuff, if this cannot transmit across the wide range of our own people, it has no chance.
• 1:16:38
  Unknown: None. Nope.
• 1:16:39
  Except in individual
• 1:16:41
  circumstances,
• 1:16:42
  like really is the way that our message has been applied.
• 1:16:46
  Look look at what is done for Darryl, the Robert that called in,
• 1:16:51
  that's sitting there, all the other people that are listening that have been touched by this. Okay? And if it if it think about this. What if we didn't have this platform and this program, where would you be with all this information?
• 1:17:06
  Unknown: Well, I wouldn't have as much Well,
• 1:17:09
  Unknown: yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Unknown: And I wouldn't have been detained, you know, to whittle the brain down, it's like sharpening our wits, isn't it? Sorry there, I was just gonna say it's like sharpening our wits and I think part of the challenge is this communications
• 1:17:20
  process is that I'm not saying we don't have intelligent people study the minutiae of the disease, we absolutely do need that, That's exactly what we need. But the area that I I am drawn to, this doesn't mean that I'm right or anything, but the area I'm drawn to is how do we take that? How do we take that rich seam of intense intelligence
• 1:17:39
  and and put it in a way
• 1:17:42
  that everybody can get, and effectively we need to become almost like an advertising agency. I'm quite serious. If you look at advertising,
• 1:17:50
  it takes
• 1:17:51
  it's developed into
• 1:17:53
  synthesis of
• 1:17:55
  mood imagery,
• 1:17:56
  short pithy sentences, posters,
• 1:18:00
  repetition is the key as well which obviously requires a lot money,
• 1:18:05
  but we don't need as much money to do the repetition
• 1:18:08
  as we did. This technology allows us to repeat things at zero cost if we're able to build up a group and that's what we have to do, we are almost like have to you know self promote ourselves back to ourselves and keep advertising the idea.
• 1:18:21
  Very simple fast things you know, because
• 1:18:24
  everybody around the microphone here and most of the listeners have got the time and the capacity to sit with and police their own thoughts and march through the line of understanding. This is fantastic, we're always going to have people that do this, but a lot of people don't have the luxury of that, so what could we do for them? Could we you know stick an advert on the back of a crisp packet or
• 1:18:44
  a cornflakes packet and they go, oh fantastic, I mean that that'd be ideal, I'm not assuming that we could do that, but
• 1:18:51
  that you know it's that area.
• 1:18:53
  Unknown: Cheeky cheery advertising to knock people out of a loop and go, oh, I never thought of that before. Well, can say one thing, you know, what we've been battling at one point is the situation that everybody else is in collectively,
• 1:19:06
  and as a group, are they ready to hear this yet? And
• 1:19:10
  I gotta think that,
• 1:19:12
  and it's kinda tailored my whole approach here lately, Paul,
• 1:19:16
  is instead
• 1:19:18
  of trying to go out and reach them, I'm not saying we shouldn't,
• 1:19:21
  okay? But as for the big net to get cast,
• 1:19:26
  I don't think our time is there yet.
• 1:19:29
  I don't know why but
• 1:19:31
  my
• 1:19:32
  concentration
• 1:19:33
  has been on me and how I can make this message
• 1:19:37
  the simplest and most palatable
• 1:19:40
  that I can make it for when that time and they're ready to hear it comes.
• 1:19:45
  You know there's an old saying in teaching, I know you've heard it. It says, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
• 1:19:52
  Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  And then the rest of that statement was, when the student is really ready,
• 1:19:58
  the teacher will disappear.
• 1:20:01
  Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:20:07
  that's good. That's when you're taking it on
• 1:20:10
  to the next thing.
• 1:20:11
  Unknown: Listen, I've been trying to go out and beat people over the head with this for seven years or a lot longer than that, but in this format with something of substance for seven years.
• 1:20:22
  And I'm astounded at how
• 1:20:25
  and I don't know. Maybe it's just my perception because I don't know where it's happening,
• 1:20:29
  with who, what they're doing with it, how they're applying it, like Daryl's meeting on Friday with those people that he just related to us. I don't know those things are happening. So, you're removed from that, okay? But I would have thought when I started this that it would have been a quick uptake
• 1:20:48
  that we would have seen some real substantial
• 1:20:51
  reaction and we would have had some effect and none of those things happened.
• 1:20:57
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:20:59
  Roger.
• 1:21:00
  Pleasure.
• 1:21:01
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:21:05
  Unknown: With all due respect when I say this,
• 1:21:08
  you had a unreasonable
• 1:21:09
  expectation
• 1:21:10
  Unknown: Yes. I did. People. Yes. I did.
• 1:21:15
  I totally admit it. And and that's
• 1:21:18
  Unknown: that's where we have to
• 1:21:21
  we have to meet people one one at a time
• 1:21:25
  and start with where they're at
• 1:21:27
  and
• 1:21:29
  engage in that conversation
• 1:21:31
  without the purpose of winning it. Yep. Winning a debate.
• 1:21:36
  You can't you can't because
• 1:21:40
  if that's in your heart is to win the debate,
• 1:21:43
  you can have a debate. You can even have an argument.
• 1:21:47
  But at the end of the day,
• 1:21:48
  what will will you achieve
• 1:21:50
  what you wanted to accomplish when that that conversation started?
• 1:21:55
  And
• 1:21:56
  and my objective is to
• 1:21:59
  is to help people reconcile
• 1:22:03
  the contradictions
• 1:22:04
  and the questions that they've had in their own mind. So what you end up doing is giving to people
• 1:22:11
  without forcing it down them and making them feel small in the process of doing that. Yep. And and so,
• 1:22:17
  like Paul says,
• 1:22:19
  everybody doesn't have the luxury or the capacity or the resources or whatever their personal circumstances are.
• 1:22:27
  So
• 1:22:28
  what what is it that people
• 1:22:30
  men men and women are focused on?
• 1:22:33
  Well, you know, their biological needs. It comes back to biology
• 1:22:40
  needs are, I need to feed myself. I need to put a roof over my head. And if there's anything extra, I'm gonna,
• 1:22:47
  you know,
• 1:22:48
  buy my buy my goodies.
• 1:22:50
  And so they want that stability and security
• 1:22:53
  of and the predictability of that that that presumption,
• 1:22:58
  that there is continuity. Of course, we know there isn't in this situation.
• 1:23:03
  And but they they they
• 1:23:06
  have been indoctrinated
• 1:23:07
  into learned helplessness and participating in their own abuse, so they become psychologically and financially extorted.
• 1:23:15
  Even if they have a conscience, they they yield. They acquiesce to the extortion
• 1:23:22
  that's been applied to them.
• 1:23:24
  And
• 1:23:26
  and then, you know, after a while, they they don't even realize that. They just they become
• 1:23:33
  autonomic.
• 1:23:34
  They just
• 1:23:36
  they just
• 1:23:37
  they just go that direction because they
• 1:23:40
  they're anything else. So things like we're talking about,
• 1:23:45
  principles, ideas, and then actions
• 1:23:47
  are
• 1:23:48
  destabilizing
• 1:23:50
  For them. Makes them feel insecure.
• 1:23:52
  Unknown: Uncomfortable.
• 1:23:53
  Unknown: It makes them feel insecure.
• 1:23:55
  So if if you're trying to relay a message to somebody
• 1:23:59
  and it and at some point in that conversation,
• 1:24:02
  what you're describing means that they're gonna have to change.
• 1:24:07
  That is gonna
• 1:24:09
  not always, but in some in a lot of times, that's gonna provoke an insecurity response in them. Sure. And and you've seen it, Paul. They'll attack you
• 1:24:19
  or or have, you know, because
• 1:24:23
  you're you're destabilizing
• 1:24:24
  this
• 1:24:25
  their security or their perceptions of that. So Well, you're taking yeah. You're taking away.
• 1:24:31
  Unknown: You're taking something away when you communicate in this way. Have to be what you said something earlier, you've got to be sensitive about how they're responding, that's the key thing. I come across people who know a lot of stuff but they're like bulls in a China shop when it starts to communicating stuff, you go, will you back off? Can't you see this guy stopped listening to you thirty seconds ago? I mean it's that it's that lack of understanding and that you think well it's gonna take forever, it's not actually if we learn to deal with each individual and just nudge a little, I mean and I don't know what else I'm supposed to use more time for. But it's absolutely true. You must be sensitive to the other person. You know? And if they're really, really Right. Completely hard stony ground, you must cut your losses and run. You gotta go. You gotta move on. You have to do that. Right. You gotta do it. I've been involved in marketing my entire life. Okay? My whole career has been one way, shape, or form of marketing something.
• 1:25:21
  Unknown: And one of the things or a couple of the really important things I learn, I try and apply.
• 1:25:26
  And that is this very simple saying, it's easier to pull a rope than it is to push a rope.
• 1:25:32
  You you can't make people do anything. All you can do is try and assist them in making that decision, okay? Back to the voluntary
• 1:25:42
  nature of everything that we're dealing with all the way back to Vattel's Law of Nations. They've gotta voluntarily make that change. You can't go in and make them make that change and you don't do it by forcing things on people. You do it by asking questions
• 1:25:59
  and and putting a dialectic in their mind causing them to question and making them want to move forward to find answers.
• 1:26:09
  That's where you that's where you make make progress. Yep.
• 1:26:13
  You know, here, the very simple thing. Let's all Daryl, are you a citizen of The United States?
• 1:26:19
  Are you a citizen of The United States Of America?
• 1:26:21
  And you just shut up.
• 1:26:27
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:26:28
  Unknown: the He didn't mean narrow barrel. He didn't mean narrow in the radio show.
• 1:26:32
  Unknown: Questions questions are questions are always better than answers Okay. In
• 1:26:37
  from my point of view. So if we go back to what you were saying
• 1:26:41
  earlier
• 1:26:42
  about
• 1:26:43
  marketing
• 1:26:44
  a marketing a marketing campaign.
• 1:26:47
  So well, in the process of marketing or selling yourself, of course, we all have to do this
• 1:26:54
  at some level, successfully or not,
• 1:26:57
  people get a
• 1:27:00
  perspective on you.
• 1:27:03
  And so it's very critical for the marketer, the seller,
• 1:27:07
  whatever you're selling
• 1:27:10
  that
• 1:27:11
  that seller,
• 1:27:14
  in this case
• 1:27:15
  information,
• 1:27:18
  the individual,
• 1:27:19
  the man or woman that's doing that has to hear how they're being heard in real time.
• 1:27:25
  You I'm being critical I'm being critical of the people,
• 1:27:30
  not
• 1:27:31
  I'm not criticizing. I'm just critiquing. You have to, in real time, in the process of a conversation, whether it's over the phone like we're doing right now and the Internet or standing in front of somebody,
• 1:27:42
  you have to have to adapt and adjust
• 1:27:46
  and and evaluate
• 1:27:48
  in real time and
• 1:27:50
  in milliseconds
• 1:27:52
  how your message is being heard in order to be effective. You know, the the one And and
• 1:27:58
  Unknown: we we lose that. We used to hear in in meetings years ago, people don't care how much you know till they know how much you care.
• 1:28:07
  Unknown: How much you care.
• 1:28:09
  Unknown: And I agree with that. I think there's some I've said there's something else to that as well, Daryl. There's some just jumping in there. There's there's another aspect to that which I
• 1:28:17
  is
• 1:28:20
  you are
• 1:28:22
  one is instinctively
• 1:28:24
  understood
• 1:28:26
  and even
• 1:28:27
  intelligently misunderstood
• 1:28:29
  by members of your own race in a way that can never ever take place with people outside of ever.
• 1:28:35
  It's simply not possible.
• 1:28:37
  Everybody's doing a theater act of pretending to understand and accommodate and take on board, but it's complete junk. The whole everybody's involved in the act of self deception.
• 1:28:46
  Everybody's acquiescing to everybody else because we don't want to be rude. Well I don't want to be rude either, and we don't want to be seen to be hostile and foul and all those other things that come in oh no don't call me that!' you know all that kind of stuff, but the fact is it's like there's a sort of an epidemic of nobody calling out that the Emperor's wearing no clothes. Everybody's doing it, and and the minute you walk in and say it's actually about this, it's like don't point that out,
• 1:29:09
  but we don't need sophisticated communication between us once the ground rules are clear. Once the context
• 1:29:16
  is understood,
• 1:29:18
  you can put all the content in and you can sift it and it'll make sense, but when the context is out of whack,
• 1:29:24
  which is what it is for most white people, most white people are running around with a context in their head, we're all gonna get on. Well we don't and we're not ever because nature doesn't want it and why do you keep on resisting this and just because you don't like that idea doesn't mean that it's not gonna turn out to be good for the vast majority of people because it will turn out to be good because nature's gonna kick you ass if you keep saying, we're blokes and we know better. No. You don't.
• 1:29:51
  You might be able to get away with it for a few hundred years, but I tell you, the piper's gonna get paid. If you don't like it, you know, just don't if you don't like the heat, don't go in the kitchen. It's that kind of stuff. So it's a difficult one because our our minds have been massaged with
• 1:30:06
  the high amplification
• 1:30:08
  of modern media and communication techniques for well the whole of the last century really, know look at it, it's an absolute bombardment. Think with the arrival it's not just the printing press, although that has been immensely powerful and very liberating,
• 1:30:20
  although we know that people immediately began to control that and and the main the main media organizations were controlled last year, I mean sorry last century you know with the radio and the media, but now we've we've had this for twenty years and things are changing massively because of it. And by the way just on that, I'm going slightly off a tangent but I want to mention something today.
• 1:30:40
  I'm on Gab, this is a technical thing but it kind of impinges into the communication space, it's a quite an interesting little development, I thought so anyway. I got an email this morning from Gab,
• 1:30:51
  they're on gab.com
• 1:30:52
  and they are an equivalent to a free speech equivalent to Twitter,
• 1:30:56
  and during the course of last year they got de platformed because certain people didn't like the amount of free speech that was going on there. There's far too much of that free speech stuff going on there, we don't want any of that. So they got deplatformed for a couple of weeks, but they've managed to recover very well, and they've just come out with
• 1:31:14
  a service called DeCenter.
• 1:31:18
  And what it does is it literally bypass every comment sensor system on the Internet. It's very interesting little idea. How cool. I gotta say when I thought it was it's so cheeky. Yeah. It's cheeky. All you have to do,
• 1:31:32
  right, you you the service is free
• 1:31:34
  and basically
• 1:31:35
  any page on the web you can start to run comments on it because you just pick up the URL
• 1:31:41
  and it opens a thread
• 1:31:43
  and so all these sites like the liberal and left wing leaning sites that will literally ban comments of a certain type,
• 1:31:51
  well they can't do it and I looked at this and I thought I love this, this is so
• 1:31:57
  creative whenever they try to squish us in we're like water we just seep back there you know, because that nature of play, it's not even us, it's just gonna come out, they can't have it their way because it's not they can't, they just can't have it, it's not gonna get it their way. And see the only way they know to do is to continue to do things like censor and shut that down.
• 1:32:17
  Unknown: And every time they do, poop, over there another bubble pops up and now you got a total free alternative.
• 1:32:24
  It, man, it's just incredible what's happening and you see it happening all over the place. Robert, you you joined us back in a minute ago. What what are your comments on what we've discussed today?
• 1:32:38
  Unknown: Oh, I think it's a lot of the conversation,
• 1:32:40
  and I think it's
• 1:32:43
  probably very important.
• 1:32:48
  Unknown: Is it's critically. It's not very important. It's critically important.
• 1:32:53
  Okay? And what I try and do is now that there's now that there's some numbers of you, not as many as I would have thought or would like but we got a few numbers, okay? And I know that people are out there again like Darryl in that meeting on that Friday and Robert, I assume that you and your day to day deals occasionally mention it to people. I know Chris lives it on a continuous basis,
• 1:33:17
  but everybody talking
• 1:33:19
  and just taking an
• 1:33:22
  approach that
• 1:33:23
  has a greater probability of success.
• 1:33:27
  Rather than alienating
• 1:33:28
  people, you want to bring people into your sphere and you do that by titillating them and by asking questions.
• 1:33:36
  And
• 1:33:37
  gradually,
• 1:33:38
  they come. You know, the guy called in here, Paul. I don't know if you were, it wasn't on a Wednesday but about two weeks ago, guy calls in on this new system. I gotta call him back. He's never called in before, okay? And he goes, hey, yeah, Roger. I heard you seven years ago. Alright, Doug. I'll get you right back. I heard you seven years ago. I bought your book. I read it and I said, well, I'll just sit back and see how Roger does,
• 1:34:02
  okay?
• 1:34:03
  And here's seven years later, he's found us and he's getting ready to file an affidavit.
• 1:34:10
  Unknown: Okay? Wow.
• 1:34:13
  Now that's consistency.
• 1:34:16
  Unknown: But will it surprise me because here's the guys that I've been following you for seven years to see how you were doing. You know, if this is going to work and okay, well, I've let you lead the
• 1:34:28
  blaze the path far enough. I think I'll fall in behind you, you know, and. I took a while but not quite that while. Well, and that's okay. Listen, I don't put any pressure on anybody to do this. I never have because I understand it, okay? And it's not my place to do it. It has to be voluntary.
• 1:34:47
  For anything to be successful and solid,
• 1:34:50
  it has to be voluntary.
• 1:34:52
  Unknown: Doesn't it, Doug? No pun intended.
• 1:34:56
  Unknown: Yesterday,
• 1:34:57
  well, Roger.
• 1:34:59
  Unknown: Yes. I could have said yesterday,
• 1:35:01
  Unknown: Bob, but since your name's Roger, I decided to say Roger
• 1:35:05
  Unknown: instead of Bob. Well, that's okay. I answer to that.
• 1:35:09
  Unknown: I
• 1:35:11
  Unknown: guess I'm on the right channel then. How you doing? Got the right number. Yeah. Did, man. And one of our good old time listeners, Doug's been with us for a number of years now and
• 1:35:22
  he's always has something interesting to add. So what what do you gotta throw into the pile here today, Doug?
• 1:35:30
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:35:32
  yeah, the smorgasbord.
• 1:35:34
  Well,
• 1:35:35
  what a great show. I thank you all for your contributions
• 1:35:40
  there. It's been very entertaining
• 1:35:43
  and
• 1:35:45
  thought provoking.
• 1:35:48
  What I do with people,
• 1:35:51
  generally,
• 1:35:52
  people
• 1:35:53
  that have a a a
• 1:35:56
  an opinion
• 1:35:58
  that's different than mine
• 1:36:09
  ground. I try to build a bridge Mhmm. Rather than burn one down. Right. Okay? Right. And that's
• 1:36:17
  never failed
• 1:36:18
  because
• 1:36:20
  at the base of all
• 1:36:23
  beliefs that people have in concepts
• 1:36:26
  that they
• 1:36:28
  rely on or stand upon,
• 1:36:32
  there's common ground there.
• 1:36:35
  And so that's what I do.
• 1:36:38
  And I've had I've had people say, oh, that's it. I don't wanna and and get up and try to leave.
• 1:36:45
  You know? And I'll say, wait. Wait. Wait. You know? And then they come sit down again, and I explained
• 1:36:52
  a little further.
• 1:36:53
  Because
• 1:36:55
  as a as a whole, if you look at
• 1:36:59
  forgetting about race,
• 1:37:01
  I think race is important,
• 1:37:04
  common ground just like families are.
• 1:37:07
  There used to be a saying,
• 1:37:09
  blood is thicker than water.
• 1:37:12
  And, you know, I can kind of agree with that, but it was misused
• 1:37:17
  where you have to agree with me.
• 1:37:20
  You know, was like my family as I was growing up and then,
• 1:37:25
  grew up, they were all democrats.
• 1:37:28
  So you had to go with the unions. You had to go with the democrats
• 1:37:32
  regardless.
• 1:37:34
  And
• 1:37:35
  so
• 1:37:37
  that's what I try to do is reason
• 1:37:40
  with people,
• 1:37:42
  try to build a common ground, a bridge
• 1:37:45
  where we can discuss things.
• 1:37:49
  And
• 1:37:50
  but
• 1:37:51
  as this I've been listening to this
• 1:37:55
  expose here from the beginning,
• 1:37:57
  and the thing that struck my mind that
• 1:38:01
  I realized,
• 1:38:03
  and,
• 1:38:04
  a long time ago, decades ago,
• 1:38:07
  as a person that was dealing with,
• 1:38:11
  the Bible and with people
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  because I was blessed
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  to be able to go about the country
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  and as a sort of minister
• 1:38:24
  and talk with people.
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  And
• 1:38:28
  from a biblical
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  basis,
• 1:38:32
  the real problem is sin.
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  And
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  people
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  are
• 1:38:39
  they go along to get along.
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  And,
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  back,
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  you know, when as an example, when Bill Clinton came into, when he was the governor here, he was the governor when I moved here.
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  And
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  when that happened,
• 1:38:56
  I could see at the time
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  that, when he was running for president that if he was elected president,
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  the depravity that was in this man was going to corrupt the country and people, and it did. Yes. Because I could you know, the whole Monica Lewinsky thing went on, and then every you know, I would I was selling insurance at the time, and so I'd be going into this nook and cranny and everywhere, and I would hear a guy saying, man, I wish I was Bill Clinton. You know why? Right? And so it just was like that parasite
• 1:39:31
  just eating away.
• 1:39:34
  What it's doing what it was doing was it was
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  giving an excuse
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  for the masses or those with that inclination
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  Unknown: to sin. You know To do the same thing. Doug, you know what? That whole incident, that Lewinsky incident, I remember my impressions at the time. I've mentioned it a time or two on the air that that's probably, you remember Vietnam
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  War was the first war that got brought to the dinner table?
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  Remember that?
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  You know, when you'd see the daily You mean in that instrument? No. No. No. In the sixties,
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  the Vietnam War was the first war that was brought to the dinner table because people sit there and eat dinner and watch television, and they're watching it on the news every day. Right?
• 1:40:20
  Oh. Well, Monica Lewinsky was the first time that it brought oral sex
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  to the dinner table.
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  Is that when you speak about it, bro? Yes. Exactly. I mean, you're sitting around eating dinner, and there's the TV, and it's Monica,
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  know, all the stuff that went on. But it's the first time that that topic was at that precipice of exposure
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  to get it to the point where you're talking and dealing with it at dinner.
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  Unknown: And and what's that? It's from your kids.
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  Unknown: Do what? Was on their appetite. No. Robert. Right of mine. Robert had some kind of quippy little comment. What was it, Robert?
• 1:41:03
  Unknown: I said, yeah, they kinda hit you right in the mouth. Yeah, right. Yeah.
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  Unknown: Steady. But but you know. It's a family show. But you know what I'm talking about and see, that was a big change in the acclamation
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  of the of the culture
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  to this intrusion of overt sexuality.
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  And
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  Unknown: what that is, what that was biblically
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  as a,
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  a corrupt
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  reprobate
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  theme
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  was
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  lewdness.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  And so,
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  anyway,
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  everybody
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  has to deal with
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  everybody has to deal with their own
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  destiny
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  in a sense. Okay? You shouldn't fear. If if you do everything
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  that you that you know that you should do,
• 1:41:58
  then you should not fear death
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  or judgment.
• 1:42:01
  Okay? Because you're doing the best you can do. The problem with all with the
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  and this has gone on from the beginning
• 1:42:10
  with governments
• 1:42:12
  and dictatorships
• 1:42:13
  and and all this stuff is that
• 1:42:17
  every man wants to be his own god. And when you wanna be your own god,
• 1:42:23
  then you reject
• 1:42:25
  the very simple,
• 1:42:27
  easy to understand
• 1:42:29
  laws
• 1:42:30
  or rules
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  that the creator has set down, like, don't lie. I mean, if people
• 1:42:36
  if nobody ever lied
• 1:42:39
  about anything,
• 1:42:41
  they wouldn't lie to themselves.
• 1:42:43
  They wouldn't lie to others,
• 1:42:45
  and that would eliminate probably 99%
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  of even
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  of of sin because
• 1:42:52
  you'd realize that there is gonna be a judgment,
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  and
• 1:42:58
  you're
• 1:42:59
  whether you believe in in a judgment or not,
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  there is that moral sense
• 1:43:06
  that I believe is
• 1:43:08
  there.
• 1:43:09
  And when people reject it and choose to do whatever they want,
• 1:43:13
  then
• 1:43:15
  whether
• 1:43:16
  well,
• 1:43:17
  then they know they're wrong. They just deny
• 1:43:20
  being
• 1:43:22
  taking responsibility
• 1:43:23
  Unknown: for it. Well, there we are back at the start of the show with Daryl in this conversation about immorality
• 1:43:30
  versus amorality.
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  Unknown: Yeah, I mean this thing about judgment as well,
• 1:43:38
  have a slightly well something to add or something to think about to chew over.
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  I think that judgment begins to occur
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  the millisecond
• 1:43:47
  you begin to start to error.
• 1:43:49
  I think it's like a dynamic force.
• 1:43:51
  If you are awake, if you are connected in,
• 1:43:54
  you will feel that judgment in terms of your conscience will begin to bridle. You'll get it and we all know it when it's going on and we knew it when we were young, that's why we really do know right from wrong, we know it. Now errors are fine, the main problem is I think you said here, there's nothing wrong with an error, it just becomes a mistake That's how we learn. It's the only way we learn. Yeah. You don't learn from It's gotta be two steps forward
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  You know, correct. Right.
• 1:44:21
  Yeah. You don't, and it's gotta be two steps forward and one step back because that gives you the perspective, it gives you a sense of depth of field of whatever it is, your path as you are traveling down this path. The other thing about I think there's a distinction as well that I tend to make between
• 1:44:38
  ignorance
• 1:44:39
  and lack of awareness,
• 1:44:41
  and many one of the things about sort of taking truth to people if you believe that you've just done that or you're about to do it or we're in the business of actually providing them with information that prior to that moment they weren't aware of,
• 1:44:54
  and one of the reasons why people often bridle when you start to communicate like this even though they might not be able to tell you why,
• 1:45:01
  suspect is because
• 1:45:03
  many many of us are in a state of unawareness
• 1:45:06
  of things, a lack of awareness, that's not ignorance, that's you literally don't know that you don't know.
• 1:45:13
  Suddenly something might turn up even at these later stages in life, after all slightly a bit longer in the go, good grief, I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that that was possible, that that existed. There'll be things like that still coming around the corner.
• 1:45:25
  But the thing is once you've been introduced to something like that, like once you've been introduced to the idea that the banking system is a private club and that it wrecks everything and you've know, now you have
• 1:45:36
  now you're in a different position because if you choose to not paying to pay any attention to that,
• 1:45:42
  now you've put yourself in a condition of ignorance.
• 1:45:45
  You've done that, you put yourself ignorance
• 1:45:48
  is
• 1:45:49
  an active stance where you know a thing is going on, you sense it, but you choose to look the other way because you don't really want to have a look, because if you look you're gonna have to keep taking more and more responsibility and then the onus is on you to communicate it and they don't want to do it. That's what we're taking away from people when you speak to them, you're taking away their inner say, you know that lovely world that you live in? Yeah I'm here to wreck it. Sorry. Right. Because
• 1:46:12
  I want the real you, I want you to be you not this fantasy,
• 1:46:17
  not this deluded thing that you think you are, you need to stand here. I don't wanna stand in the cesspit all alone. Get down here with me.
• 1:46:25
  Unknown: Paul. You'd be liking that movie where they fell into it, Paul.
• 1:46:30
  Unknown: Listen.
• 1:46:32
  Paul, what you're talking about is
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  I mean, I
• 1:46:37
  couldn't make this up. I was
• 1:46:39
  in this meeting I had a couple weeks ago.
• 1:46:42
  Yeah. About two hours into it,
• 1:46:44
  I said I looked at them all, I said,
• 1:46:47
  now now listen. I got a question for you guys.
• 1:46:50
  Do you do you think I'm trying to give you guys something or take something away from you?
• 1:46:56
  And,
• 1:46:57
  the guy that I do business with, he just chirped right up, and he says,
• 1:47:01
  well,
• 1:47:02
  he said it kinda gruff too. He says, well,
• 1:47:05
  he goes, you're taking something away. And I go, well, what's that? And he goes,
• 1:47:10
  my ignorance.
• 1:47:14
  Unknown: There you go.
• 1:47:15
  Unknown: And There you go. And
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  Unknown: I had never thought about it. Paul, you sin. Did Doug bring the word up sin? Yes. Sin is this Greek word. It's from archery. I think it means to fall short of the target. To miss the mark. To miss the mark. To miss the mark, think or fall short of you know, your intention wasn't enough to get it there, that's called a sin, it's in archery.
• 1:47:37
  So it means that you you know you missed the point, you didn't get the point, you didn't do it. Ignorance
• 1:47:44
  is a it's like a verb,
• 1:47:47
  it's not. You
• 1:47:49
  are ignoring things. An ignorant person
• 1:47:52
  is a person who's put themselves into a situation of knowing enough to know that they need to know more, but choosing to stop that's a sin and really that's the only sin when you look at it because if you say well there are all these laws you go yeah I know but I don't want to have a look. Now you're ignoring them, you're ignoring them and now you're in an ignorant state. You know, so Gary.
• 1:48:14
  Unknown: Gary. I'm I'm glad it all worked out lovely for you, Darryl, anyway. Darryl shot me a message. Gary shot me a message and and you're gonna like this because it's a Margaret Thatcher quote, Paul.
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  The greatest form of ignorance. The greatest form of ignorance
• 1:48:30
  is rejecting
• 1:48:31
  something you know nothing about.
• 1:48:36
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:48:37
  Unknown: That's right. Okay. That's right. And I just and when you phrased it and this came up, I had never looked at that word with the first part of it separated.
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  Ignore.
• 1:48:50
  Ignoring.
• 1:48:52
  Yeah.
• 1:48:53
  Okay? They're ignoring.
• 1:48:55
  It's not that they're stupid,
• 1:48:56
  they're ignoring something they know is there.
• 1:49:00
  Unknown: Ignorant. Absolutely right.
• 1:49:02
  So they're ignorant.
• 1:49:03
  That's how it needs to be pronounced. It's not ignorant. Right. You're an ignorant.
• 1:49:07
  It's like a noun, you are an ignorant because you have put yourself into a condition, you did this, of ignoring that thing, you know you did, didn't When your house set on fire you ignored the fire didn't you? Yeah I did, I did. Right. Right, but don't tell the insurance that. Right.
• 1:49:22
  Unknown: You know? If you go to if you go to the book of Proverbs,
• 1:49:26
  there's many there. There's many Proverbs there. And one of the Proverbs that caught my attention one day as I was reading through there,
• 1:49:35
  I'm gonna have to paraphrase slightly here. It says, only
• 1:49:39
  a fool answers a thing before hearing the question.
• 1:49:42
  Unknown: And
• 1:49:46
  Unknown: we we get a lot of that. You know? People are programmed to respond with talking points and be reactive.
• 1:49:51
  So,
• 1:49:54
  there's many times,
• 1:49:56
  you don't even get the opportunity to,
• 1:50:00
  address a thing before they they're already answering. They already have a pre a preloaded or preconditioned
• 1:50:07
  reactionary
• 1:50:07
  response.
• 1:50:09
  Right. A stereotyped
• 1:50:10
  response.
• 1:50:12
  And and so this is why this is so powerful,
• 1:50:15
  and I've I've taken to using this question more and more all the time is
• 1:50:20
  in conversations with people. I I just did this with my my best friend's wife here the other day. I said
• 1:50:26
  I said, Sue, do you do you think with this information I'm trying to give something to you or take something away?
• 1:50:34
  And I I said it, you know, actually with
• 1:50:37
  a lot of friendship and and concern. I mean, compassion in my voice. It was sincere.
• 1:50:43
  I I was just curious.
• 1:50:45
  You know?
• 1:50:46
  And but if I walk up to somebody and I'm I I have a I have a two minute conversation with them and I say, well, based upon our two minute conversation here, I see that you're an ignorant bloke, and I'm gonna rectify that. Now how is that gonna work out? Yeah. That's gonna work out real well. Okay.
• 1:51:04
  Right. So I I mean
• 1:51:06
  I I mean but you literally see people doing this.
• 1:51:09
  Okay?
• 1:51:11
  And and then and then and then wondering wondering why wondering why they've had no Success. Not affect, affect. Yeah. I I don't I don't wanna be in charge of anybody's life. But if if I can show you if I can show you how to put your hand on the rudder
• 1:51:27
  and steer,
• 1:51:29
  okay, a different course,
• 1:51:31
  then
• 1:51:33
  I'll I'll I'll leave that at that. And you know what? Sometimes you have to
• 1:51:37
  be
• 1:51:38
  Unknown: under enough self control and self awareness when you're doing this to know when to stop. Yes. K. Very important. You're absolutely right. I would say is one of the ways that we used to do it that we that is instinctive within us, that is very very effective of
• 1:51:55
  nullifying
• 1:51:56
  the vast majority of considerations
• 1:51:58
  and resistant body language that you get, is when you tell people
• 1:52:03
  stories.
• 1:52:05
  Stories bypass the personal, they do it. And what you're doing is you go straight to the subconscious and people get engrossed in the form of a story and yet the carrier message And is put
• 1:52:16
  that's why we have these things told around the campfire for millennia
• 1:52:20
  and they're just as powerful today as the heifer were. That's really we're in round this electronic campfire right now, spread across a very large fire and there's a little flame running up and down the line, that's what we're doing, and that and it's still immensely powerful
• 1:52:35
  for that reason, and we our ability to tell stories, I mean even now I've sort of fallen back in love with certain fiction things, I've not read fiction for thirty years, I've just been too busy
• 1:52:44
  swallowing dictionaries and things like this you know,
• 1:52:48
  and that's what we tend to do, but every now and again I read passages or I read some poetry, it sounds great,
• 1:52:53
  sometimes go Paul you're reading poetry? I'm going yes but it's pretty powerful stuff. When you see what's in it, what's been addressed,
• 1:53:00
  there's a yearning, there's an addressing for something higher and this is what people pick up on whether they're seven or 70.
• 1:53:07
  It goes over all the age barriers that stuff, there's a magical world to be invoked through story and it's one of our greatest allies that we we could use more. I could anyway, it's a little mantra back to myself. Well
• 1:53:19
  Unknown: I I mean, listen. Look at look at what,
• 1:53:22
  what's so wonderful about these forums like this.
• 1:53:26
  Brent Weaver gets on here and he talks about history.
• 1:53:29
  He tells a story with it. Roger will tell a story with it. You yourself, you tell a story with it.
• 1:53:36
  People that I talk to more and more because I do understand a lot of the minutiae and the details and I'm proficient at it.
• 1:53:44
  I can actually string together a very interesting
• 1:53:47
  set of data points and make it entertaining,
• 1:53:51
  and informative at the same time.
• 1:53:53
  And and this is why this woman wants me to come back every Friday afternoon, spend my my afternoons and evenings over there is telling them stories. Why don't you tell her Daryl, did you answer that you can hear me every Friday on the People's Patriot Network?
• 1:54:13
  Well,
• 1:54:14
  you you have to
• 1:54:16
  like I said, you have to know where to stop something.
• 1:54:22
  Unknown: That's something I've never been blessed with. I never knew when to stop.
• 1:54:29
  Unknown: Oh.
• 1:54:30
  When they when they
• 1:54:31
  when when they're when they're moving their head up and down and saying yes, that's when you're reading a credit card. That's right. Okay? No. I'm kidding.
• 1:54:39
  Right?
• 1:54:40
  And
• 1:54:41
  and, you know, so
• 1:54:44
  I mean, you know, we are sometimes our own worst enemies.
• 1:54:47
  Realize
• 1:54:48
  and I mean this with all compassion. Alright? You have to be empathetic to other people because these people have been indoctrinated
• 1:54:55
  in a learned state of helplessness to
• 1:54:58
  participate in their own abuse. Yep. This is what we're dealing with. And demise. And demise. Indoctrinated.
• 1:55:05
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:55:07
  And and and they do it well.
• 1:55:09
  And
• 1:55:12
  so
• 1:55:13
  Unknown: but it's it's it's been fun, guys. Thank you. You know, in our I had some real high level sales training along the way, and about the best was pitting blows, really. And one of the things they taught us in there is when you're sitting in front of somebody you're talking to is you continue to ask a lot of small questions where you know the answer is going to be yes and you ask them all these yes
• 1:55:34
  questions to acclimate them to when you're going to ask them the big question and then they're automatically they've said yes a whole bunch of times. Yes.
• 1:55:43
  Unknown: Okay? There's a lot of I knew you would I knew you would. There's a lot of scientific
• 1:55:48
  Unknown: stuff into this.
• 1:55:50
  Listen, it's been a good show today. We didn't really have a lot on the agenda to talk about and I think that the show that's been produced with a lot of these ideas in this conversation
• 1:56:00
  has been real beneficial
• 1:56:02
  and I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
• 1:56:06
  And a lot of fun. Yep. Good. Thank you, Roger. Well, next Wednesday, Paul, we'll get you slated in, buddy and look forward to it. We'll see what happens.
• 1:56:13
  The black swan may be coming along and it may be coming from somewhere totally unexpected
• 1:56:19
  as black swans do. Watch and see if India and Pakistan
• 1:56:23
  don't start World War three over there. They're right on the verge of it today.
• 1:56:29
  Okay? So
• 1:56:31
  lot of interesting things going on. Venezuela,
• 1:56:34
  India, Pakistan, Trump's in China. Who knows? We'll discuss it and see how it evolves tomorrow. Is that okay, guys?
• 1:56:41
  Well,
• 1:56:43
  it's gonna have to be okay because there's the whistler, alright? So, Paul, thanks a lot, man. Enjoyed your input and your ideas.
• 1:56:51
  Daryl, good to hear from you.
• 1:56:53
  Chris left us but Doug, good to hear from you and Robert too. So, we'll see y'all tomorrow on Thursday and of course, Friday, Brent, the aforementioned Brent will be with us. So, you guys have a good day, okay? And I'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:57:08
  Paul? Ciao. Ciao, amigo.
• 1:57:10
  Thanks for Ciao. Ciao. Thanks for fixing my settings.
• 1:57:14
  Anytime.
• 1:57:16
  Unknown: Good show. Thanks.
• 1:57:18
  Unknown: See you guys.