Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #63: Three's a Crowd (SATC Ep. 8)
Transcript
- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff
- 0:07Speaker 1: I never told to your production of iHeart Radio. And
- 0:18Speaker 1: welcome to our sub sub segment of Sex in the
- 0:22Speaker 1: City Dune. Done done, done, Okay, anyway, we're are on
- 0:25Speaker 1: episode eight and we are sitting with Mimosa's ready to
- 0:29Speaker 1: go drink responsibly if you are so drinking, um A B.
- 0:33Speaker 1: If you're not, still be responsible, you know, if your
- 0:36Speaker 1: life enjoy it, if you have thirty minutes sit with us, yes,
- 0:41Speaker 1: and if you want to hear our reactions of these
- 0:45Speaker 1: episodes of delightful Sex in the City. It is over
- 0:51Speaker 1: twenty years old, these jokes. I know, I feel very old. Yeah,
- 0:57Speaker 1: it's a good thing. Like I kind of wish I
- 0:58Speaker 1: had seen it when it would originally released, would have
- 1:01Speaker 1: been eighteen nineteen. But I feel like, yeah, I would
- 1:03Speaker 1: have been very jaded by how my life did not
- 1:07Speaker 1: look like Yeah, the Sex and the City ladies. Yeah.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I think that's one of the interesting things about this
- 1:13Speaker 1: is there is that kind of fantasy aspect of this
- 1:16Speaker 1: whole thing, and they're kind of their lives, their fashion,
- 1:21Speaker 1: and they're in their thirties at this point, so they
- 1:23Speaker 1: are a little ahead of me, but I would have
- 1:26Speaker 1: expected to be that instead of in my situation of
- 1:28Speaker 1: getting like twenty nine thousand dollars a year as a
- 1:32Speaker 1: social worker, living with roommates, trying to figure out my
- 1:35Speaker 1: life but not in love. More so combating trauma. So
- 1:40Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. This is a very privileged look,
- 1:43Speaker 1: but sometimes privileges nice to see. So we can kind
- 1:46Speaker 1: of escape from our own trauma, you know. Um, and
- 1:49Speaker 1: yes we are on episode eight, Annie, would you like
- 1:53Speaker 1: to do a recap for us? Yeah? Okay. Well, we've
- 1:57Speaker 1: talked about monogamy and the defining the relationship as you
- 2:01Speaker 1: dr educated people know, and exclusivity. Um, we've talked about
- 2:09Speaker 1: single versus married women. We've talked about a lot of
- 2:13Speaker 1: friendship stuff and supporting friendship, having sex with twenty year olds,
- 2:17Speaker 1: having oral sex and anal sex, all kinds of sex, yes,
- 2:21Speaker 1: all the sex, all that, all the specifically that makes sense,
- 2:25Speaker 1: that makes sense. Uh. Yeah, we've gone all over. We've
- 2:31Speaker 1: got all over and talked about all kinds of things,
- 2:33Speaker 1: all the things. And if you do like this segment,
- 2:36Speaker 1: just so you know, we do eventually want to broaden
- 2:38Speaker 1: our horizons. Is that the words? Uh? And bringing other
- 2:42Speaker 1: people on and we're hoping to have some of your
- 2:44Speaker 1: classic people that you've heard on our show before to
- 2:47Speaker 1: come in and have their own take in our conversations.
- 2:50Speaker 1: But we also eventually would like to have one of
- 2:52Speaker 1: you wonderful listeners and maybe a friend that you would
- 2:56Speaker 1: like to bring along and have a conversation and a
- 2:57Speaker 1: watch party with us. Uh So look out on social
- 3:01Speaker 1: media as well as listen to to have yourself entered.
- 3:06Speaker 1: It's not exactly a contest, but you know, we can't
- 3:09Speaker 1: pick everyone. They would be chaotic, but we have about
- 3:14Speaker 1: eighties seven episodes liberal but so listen out for that. Eventually,
- 3:20Speaker 1: we would love to have more people participate, although I
- 3:23Speaker 1: do love our conversation Danny Um. Okay, So let's go
- 3:26Speaker 1: ahead and with episode eight of season one, which is
- 3:29Speaker 1: titled three is a Crowd? What do you think this
- 3:33Speaker 1: is about? This has been hard because the description is
- 3:37Speaker 1: on the television look at it, and I've tried very
- 3:39Speaker 1: hard not to look at it. I haven't, but it's
- 3:42Speaker 1: been a test listeners. I'm imagining after what just happened
- 3:46Speaker 1: in the previous episode, which is about exclusivity and monogamy,
- 3:50Speaker 1: that is about threas I'm guessing with Carrie and Big
- 3:56Speaker 1: after the last one. I'm trying very hard to be
- 4:01Speaker 1: because there's also an image on screen, so I'm trying
- 4:06Speaker 1: in my mind what I think it is. So I
- 4:07Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like and expounding on this idea
- 4:12Speaker 1: of more than not a monogamous relationship or something outside
- 4:16Speaker 1: of monogamy. Yes. Also, I have mentioned this episode before
- 4:19Speaker 1: as well, and I will go ahead and read the
- 4:22Speaker 1: descriptor because I forgot I wanted to do that. We're
- 4:24Speaker 1: going to bring things in, y'all. Be really, that's why
- 4:26Speaker 1: we need the first season, just for us to do
- 4:28Speaker 1: trial and error. But it says Carrie discovers not only
- 4:32Speaker 1: that Mr Big was married before we talked about that,
- 4:37Speaker 1: but that he and his ex participated in a threesome.
- 4:41Speaker 1: So you are correct, there is a threesome involved. I
- 4:44Speaker 1: mentioned this episode and just like that, because I told
- 4:46Speaker 1: you we do get introduced to his ex wives. That's right,
- 4:51Speaker 1: all right, here we go, Okay, you me and another woman.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Come on, serious, Charlotte, you have no idea how sexy
- 5:17Speaker 1: you are, do you? Oh? You're so sex It sounds
- 5:20Speaker 1: like a weird gaslighting thing because he said, you know,
- 5:25Speaker 1: my fantasy is threesome with you. You're so sexy. You
- 5:28Speaker 1: have no idea how sexy are Charlotte or your sexuality,
- 5:32Speaker 1: But it sounds like he just wants to have a threason.
- 5:41Speaker 1: First you start thinking you're hot, then he brings up
- 5:43Speaker 1: the threesome thing. Boom, suddenly you're kissing another woman while
- 5:46Speaker 1: he beats off. Please just make sure that the other
- 5:50Speaker 1: woman isn't a friend. Would you want a friend or
- 5:52Speaker 1: someone random for a threesome? Yeah, this conversation, Yes, I
- 5:56Speaker 1: have had this conversation with a friend with with someone
- 5:59Speaker 1: I could try us like Carrie, so they named Carrie.
- 6:05Speaker 1: But I got with someone who has a little more
- 6:07Speaker 1: experience like Sam. Okay, pass it onto going Sam is
- 6:12Speaker 1: experien like Charlotte. And then she goes back to Charlotte
- 6:17Speaker 1: saying that you know something like bad first timer? Right
- 6:20Speaker 1: forgot about me and poor Mariana doing with you out
- 6:27Speaker 1: It's like picking teams for Dodgeball all over again. Maybe
- 6:37Speaker 1: she's more your taste. Stop it and he's now trying
- 6:40Speaker 1: to find women for their Yeah, I will say there
- 6:45Speaker 1: is a couple that I think was trying hard to
- 6:47Speaker 1: get me to be a threesome. Yeah, I had that
- 6:49Speaker 1: a couple of times X file spanaddic two songs seeks Scully,
- 6:59Speaker 1: look like, this is what I was talking to me about,
- 7:04Speaker 1: the Scully, the Scully refie. That's what I was talking about.
- 7:08Speaker 1: What we were talking about, Scully and the women around
- 7:11Speaker 1: the world, fictional women around the world. So there's a
- 7:13Speaker 1: there was a couple and Verry Nerdy and golden showers.
- 7:19Speaker 1: So she talks about being in golden showers. I did
- 7:21Speaker 1: not know what that was until way later because I
- 7:24Speaker 1: have another episode about them, Like, oh, I really pictured
- 7:28Speaker 1: a literal golden shower. I thought you was like imagined,
- 7:33Speaker 1: like imagining the shower was made of gold and they
- 7:36Speaker 1: were going to she I thought she was referencing that
- 7:38Speaker 1: as like she wanted a rich guy. Did not realize
- 7:41Speaker 1: what that was. Yea, and it was fine, wasn't. But
- 7:44Speaker 1: like I, as a naive person, I was like, what
- 7:48Speaker 1: assuming I knew right, I wanted to interview someone what threesomes?
- 7:59Speaker 1: Every good one? Sure? Who hasn't really with who? My
- 8:06Speaker 1: ex wife? Oh? My column was the last thing on
- 8:10Speaker 1: my mind. You were married? Yeah? Yeah, what I told you? No, No,
- 8:19Speaker 1: you didn't. Charlotte was right, we don't really know the
- 8:28Speaker 1: people we sleep with. After all, what did I really
- 8:31Speaker 1: know about Mr Big except he had an ex wife
- 8:34Speaker 1: named Barbara, who I quickly discovered worked in publishing stock
- 8:38Speaker 1: I'm picturesque. I guess this is pretty social media. You
- 8:43Speaker 1: got to go to the place, you got to find
- 8:46Speaker 1: them out. What I'm hearing is that you're still very
- 8:53Speaker 1: upset about being sexually rejected by your friends something brand Yes,
- 9:00Speaker 1: would you do a threesome with man? I love so okay?
- 9:05Speaker 1: So that Miranda needs to ask other people for validation
- 9:09Speaker 1: for about threesome and she does it with a therapist
- 9:11Speaker 1: and then she does the wed shake to be sexy.
- 9:15Speaker 1: It was one of those like when you're trying to
- 9:16Speaker 1: be sexy, when overly trying to be sexy and you're
- 9:19Speaker 1: obviously not doing great being thing. I've done this like
- 9:25Speaker 1: I'm being sexy and fall off a soul. So I
- 9:33Speaker 1: guess you couldn't avoid a threesome because even if you're
- 9:36Speaker 1: the only person in the bed, someone has always been
- 9:39Speaker 1: there before you. They're in the middle of having sex.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Big and Carrie. She started imagining the ex wife, which
- 9:47Speaker 1: I've done before, not the ex wife, but the eggs,
- 9:49Speaker 1: and just like I can't compare. I give up. It
- 9:54Speaker 1: is weird. It's one of those things where somebody can
- 9:56Speaker 1: be so close to you for so long, they know
- 9:59Speaker 1: you so well, and then they move on and there
- 10:01Speaker 1: was someone else right, and then you start wondering, what
- 10:05Speaker 1: is this or what was that? Or how do they
- 10:07Speaker 1: do they do the same thing? Was that just me?
- 10:09Speaker 1: What was the turning point? What went wrong? What it rights?
- 10:16Speaker 1: Do you miss them? Yeah? You think? Do you think
- 10:20Speaker 1: about them? I don't know who you are, but Ken
- 10:28Speaker 1: and I love each other very much. Of course you do,
- 10:32Speaker 1: and we have an unshakable bond. Whatever it takes. I'm
- 10:36Speaker 1: going to keep this marriage together. Good for you. Now, listen, Ruth,
- 10:40Speaker 1: this was a huge mistake. It didn't mean anything. It
- 10:42Speaker 1: was just sex exactly, and it being sexually adventuresome. We'll
- 10:49Speaker 1: keep this marriage together. Then I am prepared to join
- 10:52Speaker 1: you with him in bed. So the one thing I
- 11:00Speaker 1: would have a problem with, no, no, no, with this
- 11:04Speaker 1: like sideline, because I I'm not gonna lie. Maybe I'm
- 11:07Speaker 1: too old fashioned when it comes to cheating and hurting
- 11:10Speaker 1: an individual and and breaking someone's trust. I'm not cool
- 11:13Speaker 1: with that. And so this blase fair level of Sam
- 11:18Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I knew he was married, it's not
- 11:20Speaker 1: a big deal. And then having that come back to
- 11:24Speaker 1: buy her in which he wants to be committed to
- 11:26Speaker 1: her Sam instead of the wife, and the wife is
- 11:29Speaker 1: like I'll do whatever, and Sam just feels inconvenienced by it.
- 11:34Speaker 1: That's like, I'm not cool with this. This is not
- 11:36Speaker 1: one thing because if I was cheated on, and the
- 11:40Speaker 1: way they make ruth sounds so pitiful and it does
- 11:43Speaker 1: seem like it's her fault because Sam's a bigger star,
- 11:46Speaker 1: and of course it's supposed to be centered around Sam.
- 11:48Speaker 1: It just felt a little disrespectful, like any wives in general. Whatever.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Then Charlotte did the unsinkable Oh threesome, Charlotte, Oh three
- 12:06Speaker 1: some Charlotte. Oh my god, Oh my god, she winked
- 12:09Speaker 1: at me. Weins. I need to get out of it.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Did winks ever get you into? Yeah, baby, come over.
- 12:17Speaker 1: I need to know that's a thing, because I feel
- 12:19Speaker 1: like I have never been winked at and felt like yes, yes, daddy,
- 12:23Speaker 1: take me. And I'm so sorry I made that fright.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen winks that are cute and affectionate,
- 12:31Speaker 1: but it's never been like I usually wink at my
- 12:34Speaker 1: friends to like implicate that I'm just joking or this
- 12:37Speaker 1: is just a joke or whatever, but never like, hey, sexy,
- 12:40Speaker 1: I'm winking at you. Can I join you? Oh? Woman
- 12:45Speaker 1: coming in asking to julize that this was her moment
- 12:49Speaker 1: if she was going to take the plunge, it was
- 12:51Speaker 1: now or never, Charlotte says yes, Wow, threesome Charlotte awkward
- 12:59Speaker 1: sit together and bypassed, and Charlie gets pushed out, and
- 13:15Speaker 1: now we see Miranda in a bugle issous dress loving it. Hi.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Most of the women who answered our ad, well, they
- 13:26Speaker 1: were you know, she answered an ad. Graces didn't exist
- 13:31Speaker 1: at that point, right, It was all on newspersons. That's
- 13:35Speaker 1: a good way to go. I wonder does this work?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Has any of our listeners used either chrislist or or
- 13:44Speaker 1: newspapers to meet up with someone? I know we are
- 13:47Speaker 1: all in the age of dating apps, but I mean,
- 13:51Speaker 1: did this work out because people used it and there's
- 13:54Speaker 1: a level of trust. M H, All right, so you
- 14:18Speaker 1: got it right? Ish scores high as the last time
- 14:23Speaker 1: I would. But you were in the boat, okay, you
- 14:28Speaker 1: didn't see the affair thing coming. I know that's hard
- 14:31Speaker 1: to predict. Um, so I would give you. I haven't
- 14:36Speaker 1: given you any scores but in less than last one.
- 14:42Speaker 1: But to be fair, yeah, this is a little complicated
- 14:45Speaker 1: over the top. And by the way, the next episode
- 14:48Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. What did you think about this episode? Yeah?
- 14:50Speaker 1: I was again like I could really relate to the
- 14:53Speaker 1: ex is and always thinking about like that's plagues me,
- 14:57Speaker 1: not only the exes but the futures bone stocks still see.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll I don't do that. But I always
- 15:05Speaker 1: think of like what if I when am I going
- 15:06Speaker 1: to be invited the wedding? Am I gonna be invite
- 15:08Speaker 1: the wedding? What am I going to do with a wedding? Like? Well,
- 15:10Speaker 1: I laugh because recently there was a techtok video about
- 15:13Speaker 1: sign doing specific things and one of the big so
- 15:16Speaker 1: like it was like people forgetting you exist and we'll
- 15:19Speaker 1: cut you out and liberal was a big one and
- 15:21Speaker 1: that is my sign. I was like, yeah, you don't
- 15:23Speaker 1: exist to me. If I can help it, at any point,
- 15:26Speaker 1: I'll cut you out. And I think you should not exist.
- 15:30Speaker 1: And so seeing that, so I would never be invited
- 15:33Speaker 1: anybody's wedding. That's funny. You're living my You're living my head.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Canaid universe and Star Wars choosing, picking and choosing what
- 15:42Speaker 1: exists and what doesn't exist. That's funny. I'm just saying,
- 15:45Speaker 1: just like for me, I need you not to exist,
- 15:48Speaker 1: and if I can help it, then great. If not,
- 15:50Speaker 1: I will find a way to cope and hopefully we
- 15:52Speaker 1: ended in a good route. If not, I'm just going
- 15:53Speaker 1: to ignore you. Yeah. I feel like most of my
- 15:56Speaker 1: relationships I had a pretty good as sad as it was,
- 16:00Speaker 1: I had a pretty good break up last time, but
- 16:03Speaker 1: most of them have ended with like never again, Shall
- 16:06Speaker 1: I see you? Never again? Um? And that was more
- 16:11Speaker 1: just why we broke up instead anything else. But I
- 16:14Speaker 1: do think about it. I do. It just feels odd,
- 16:16Speaker 1: like I said, to share so much of yourself with
- 16:19Speaker 1: somebody and then for them to not be around anymore.
- 16:22Speaker 1: I will say, like, for me, part of my fear
- 16:26Speaker 1: and being in relationships and when we break up, what
- 16:29Speaker 1: can you use against me? Yeah? Like I have I
- 16:31Speaker 1: told you about these things about my friends, and then
- 16:33Speaker 1: you're gonna go tell my friends this is what they
- 16:34Speaker 1: said about you? Right? Yeah, I had that conversation with
- 16:38Speaker 1: my ex rights like, I feel like I've given you
- 16:40Speaker 1: so much that you could destroy me with um and
- 16:44Speaker 1: and he said like, no, I think he was basically saying,
- 16:48Speaker 1: what you think is a weakness is actually a strength,
- 16:51Speaker 1: which was very nice with him. But I remember thinking like,
- 16:54Speaker 1: I've just opened myself and I've shared all this with you,
- 16:56Speaker 1: and I've been so vulnerable, and now I feel like
- 16:58Speaker 1: you could really wreck me if you wanted to. I mean,
- 17:01Speaker 1: that's what friendships could be too, like taking something and
- 17:04Speaker 1: using against you and hoping that they wouldn't and then
- 17:08Speaker 1: but I have I've had friends who would like take
- 17:10Speaker 1: my worst twisted and tell someone else that's not what
- 17:13Speaker 1: I meant. I don't understand what just happened. Um, But
- 17:16Speaker 1: we've seen that in many A plot points. But it's
- 17:19Speaker 1: true too, people can really take that. I've also thought
- 17:22Speaker 1: that physically, like if I wanted to murder you, you're
- 17:25Speaker 1: to sleep in your bed, I could I like how
- 17:28Speaker 1: you're looking at me as you say that you sleep
- 17:32Speaker 1: too lightly? Yeah, poison you could. I could easily be poisoned.
- 17:37Speaker 1: That's a whole different we're not having right now plotting
- 17:44Speaker 1: my murder. Look, there are things I'm like, could I
- 17:47Speaker 1: destroy you? Yes? Could you destroy me? Yes? We have
- 17:52Speaker 1: to figure out how and if I mean that's the
- 17:57Speaker 1: thing though, is I know we talked about this in
- 17:59Speaker 1: a recent episode, but so much of what I think
- 18:03Speaker 1: we worry about is I was worrying about it. So
- 18:06Speaker 1: like when when my ex said that, when he said, like,
- 18:08Speaker 1: I think what you see is a vulnerability as this strength,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I think he meant that, but to me it was
- 18:14Speaker 1: it's a weakness, Like to me, it feels that way,
- 18:17Speaker 1: So I feel like he'll use it that way, even
- 18:19Speaker 1: though I don't think we can trust people better than that.
- 18:22Speaker 1: But we know that sociopaths and narcissists exists, and so
- 18:25Speaker 1: therefore that's a concern in itself. And we've seen it
- 18:27Speaker 1: in like work structures, and those are like who do
- 18:31Speaker 1: you trust? And I've met many of people who are like,
- 18:33Speaker 1: I do not talk to them because they will use this,
- 18:34Speaker 1: this and this, And I was like, oh, damn, okay,
- 18:37Speaker 1: And I'm not even enough to think that it's not
- 18:39Speaker 1: a thing. But then I'll watch people like you're right,
- 18:41Speaker 1: they sure did. So, like people are so guarded because
- 18:45Speaker 1: they've been burned so often in workplace settings that it's
- 18:48Speaker 1: kind of interesting. But when it comes to sex in
- 18:51Speaker 1: the city is a whole different level. A threesome is
- 18:54Speaker 1: a whole different level. And yet not that polyamory is
- 18:57Speaker 1: not a thing, not that being in an open relationship
- 18:59Speaker 1: is not good, and as long as you have communications,
- 19:01Speaker 1: it's delightful. But what does it come to when he
- 19:04Speaker 1: said again, this could be one of those moments of like, yeah,
- 19:07Speaker 1: you're being a little uh, closed off, judgmental for more
- 19:11Speaker 1: open relationships, they can and deal with threesoms and and
- 19:15Speaker 1: like can do it, but like the old school idea,
- 19:17Speaker 1: especially when it's driven by a patriarchal need to dominate
- 19:21Speaker 1: women and to say that they have knees that need
- 19:24Speaker 1: to be fulfilled. That's the dangerous conversation. That's the dangerous portion.
- 19:28Speaker 1: And when we see the sexiest level of conversation when
- 19:30Speaker 1: it comes to that, which is what they play on
- 19:33Speaker 1: by being sex in the city, which is the very
- 19:36Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands way to be. Doesn't accuse it
- 19:41Speaker 1: so culturally probably not the best in this conversation, but
- 19:47Speaker 1: does open up to the fact that he still has
- 19:50Speaker 1: a relationship with the next they're still game playing. Yeah, yeah,
- 19:57Speaker 1: I mean that would I guess they haven't known each
- 20:00Speaker 1: other on carrying big But I actually didn't find out
- 20:04Speaker 1: my dad at a first wife until like it was
- 20:09Speaker 1: a college like that's the first question I asked. I
- 20:11Speaker 1: think that as we get older, my assumption as every
- 20:14Speaker 1: someone you have been with someone you may probably marry
- 20:17Speaker 1: someone tell me about that we had a long term
- 20:19Speaker 1: relationship with someone and up until this relationship that wasn't
- 20:23Speaker 1: me though, So I'm like, well, I guess that could
- 20:25Speaker 1: be more of me. But is there? But he is there?
- 20:29Speaker 1: That's the question. The question I end up always talking
- 20:33Speaker 1: up with guys who just freshly got out of long
- 20:35Speaker 1: term relationships. That is awful. Yeah, I mean that's something
- 20:39Speaker 1: we should come back and talk about. It's kind of
- 20:41Speaker 1: rebound being the I was always a rebound. I was
- 20:45Speaker 1: always a secondary scened h really irritated me. Yeah, and
- 20:50Speaker 1: it's hit myself name, oh for sure. Anyway, keep talking
- 20:55Speaker 1: about relationships because that is what sex in the City
- 20:57Speaker 1: does do well and that it brings conversation. But yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 1: let us know what your thoughts are. Yes, please do
- 21:05Speaker 1: you can emails that stuff need your mom stuff at
- 21:07Speaker 1: I hurt me dot com. You can find us on
- 21:08Speaker 1: Instagram at stuff I Never Told You or on Twitter
- 21:11Speaker 1: at mom Stuff Podcast. Thanks as always to our super
- 21:13Speaker 1: producer Christina. Oh you know, we've never had a talk
- 21:16Speaker 1: with her about what her thoughts are. Christina. Yeah, Christina,
- 21:21Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening stuff I never told
- 21:23Speaker 1: you this production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast
- 21:25Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio visity I Hear Radio app app
- 21:27Speaker 1: a podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows.