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#237: Phantasm (1979) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The ice cream is going to be flying fast and furious.
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  Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, about the ugly and the
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  absurd and all of our favorite. And least favorite?
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  Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jessie. And welcome everybody.
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  Today we're talking about Phantasm.
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  Yes, we are. Yeah, this is the movie that I
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  picked for Jessie for October, and it's one that she has not
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  seen before, so gonna get into something a little new today.
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  You we're getting into something, yeah.
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  Yeah, that's a, that's a understatement for sure.
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  But before we do, do we have any announcements?
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  Oh, this weekend is to be or not to be.
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  OK. So, you know, tune in for that.
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  All right. I guess also if it sounds a
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  little bit different, we're recording out in our living room
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  today because Talia had some kind of thing that we're having
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  to monitor. Yeah, so.
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  She seems mostly OK but we're supposed to try and limit her
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  activity and she runs the house when we're shut away recording
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  so that's true. We really we relocated for this
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  week, so it should be temporary. Yeah, so different mics.
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  We're using our WAV mics and you know, obviously different
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  settings since we're out in a completely different room.
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  So just to give some context for everything in case it sounds
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  like a little bit different. Yeah.
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  So I've got her pole. OK, so on last week's episode we
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  covered We Summon the Darkness. Indeed we did.
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  Which features a lot of metal nerds.
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  Indeed it does. So we figured we'd ask, Are
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  metal fans nerds? Yeah, that was the that was the
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  thesis that I levied at all metal fans.
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  So. So it's time to see if you guys.
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  Agree. Took it up to you guys.
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  So over on Instagram 80% say hell yeah OK, 20% say hell Nah,
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  and over on Twitter 86% hell yeah and 14% hell in a.
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  OK, metal heads know they selves, good job.
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  I think it's funny that some of them are like, no, fuck that.
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  I'm not a nerd. It's funny.
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  Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think that they are,
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  which there's nothing wrong with it.
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  You know, everybody's like. Everybody's nerdy about
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  something. Yeah, if you're to the point
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  where you classify as like a fan of something like that, you're
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  kind of already a nerd. Yeah, if you use any kind of an
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  identifier to say I am a fan of this particular thing.
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  You're a nerd. Nerd.
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  That's how it works. I'm sorry, Dane McBride said.
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  So that's how it goes. Yeah, and when Dane McBride says
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  it. It's.
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  True. It's codified OK.
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  Good, good. Good word.
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  Vocabulary. No, thank you.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I did a Dumber version
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  of that. I almost said good thesaurus and
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  that's not what I wanted. To say I would have understood
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  that more, yeah. Well, you would have understood
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  it because we say not the right words but with the general gist
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  all the time to each other. Yeah, pretty much I.
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  Got that Married shorthand. Yeah, Alright, so that's it.
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  That's it for polls. That's it for everything.
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  Alright, let's get into Fantasm. OK, alright.
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  Do you want me to explain why I chose this one first or is that
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  a later thing? Go ahead and explain what why
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  you chose it for me. OK, well this is a movie that I
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  saw a long time ago without you and it's one that I see a lot of
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  people mention is like a cult classic type deal.
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  OK, so. In a couple of different ways.
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  Yeah, I suppose so. Yeah.
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  But it was, I had a good time with it.
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  I watched it on the last drive in their first Christmas special
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  and it was really fun and it seemed like it had potential to
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  be a really fun series. I have not watched any of the
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  sequels. OK, because 2 is a little bit
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  more different or difficult to find due to their rights, but we
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  own it now so we can jump into the sequel after.
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  This, it was funny because you bought it and you're like, I
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  know you haven't seen the first one yet, but it's so hard to
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  find this one anywhere. So while it's available to us,
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  we're buying it. Yeah.
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  I mean, you'd be able to rent it, but I don't want to do that.
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  Yeah. So, yeah, it was a fun movie.
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  It's a trippy movie. It's a weird little classic.
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  So I wanted to, you know, I wanted to expose it to you.
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  And also we have people from this movie, Don Cascarelli, and
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  like 90% of the core casts of this series are going to be a
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  scare fest this year. So yeah, important to.
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  See them? Yeah.
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  So yeah, that's why I chose it. Fair enough.
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  OK. OK, so Phantasm released March
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  28th, 1979. We watched it on Peacock.
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  If you want to watch it anywhere, you can watch it just
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  about anywhere. You can watch it on Fubo,
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  Peacock, Roku Channel, AMC Plus, Toby, Pluto, Plex, Freebie, and
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  Zumo. Yeah, I don't know what zumo is,
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  but it's spelled with an X. Yeah, I don't know either, but
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  you know, if you have it, there you go.
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  If you absolutely have to rinse it, don't know why you.
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  Would none of those free streaming services were
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  explored? I almost just refused to write
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  anything down for this section because there's so many free
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  options here, but if you have to, maybe they.
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  Want to send their money to to them to Don Cascarelli
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  somewhere? Well, maybe.
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  I don't know. I don't know how much he gets
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  from the from the rental, but. I don't know either way.
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  You got Amazon, you got YouTube, you got Apple TV and you got
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  Fandango at home. So.
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  It would be a really wild move to rent it from Amazon when it's
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  on freebie. Well, like like you said, you.
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  Know. If you got to if you absolutely
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  have. To rent it, yeah.
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  There you go. That's your option, all right.
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  Written and directed by Don Cascorelli.
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  Music by Fred Miro and Malcolm C Grave.
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  Special effects makeup by Paul Pepperman.
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  Starring Michael Baldwin as Mike, Bill Thornberry as Jodie,
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  Reggie Bannister as Reggie, and Angus Scrim as the Tall Man.
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  OK, all right, time for our favorite game budget or Button
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  I. Don't know, those orbs were
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  probably expensive. Not really.
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  I'm just kidding. I think this is a bucked head.
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  Yeah, it's bucked head. I actually do have a dollar
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  figure on the orbs. Really.
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  Yeah, somebody mentioned it. The guy that made it, he was
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  like a metal worker. That's there's a bed at the.
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  Source for that one? Up there, but he made it for
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  them for like $1100 and he died before the movie screen so he
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  didn't get to see his work on the big screen.
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  Yeah. So were they like fully
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  functional like the little like those pop out?
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  Well, no, I don't think so. I mean kind of like, you know,
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  there's like some stage ones. I was also reading, I guess
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  we're getting into a little bit of the fun facts earlier, but
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  the way that they got the shots for the ball going through the
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  hall as they had a baseball pitcher throw it and they just
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  like reverse the reel. No.
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  Well, that's cool. Yeah, it is kind of cool, yeah.
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  Was it a baseball pitcher from a team you like?
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  They didn't say. They just said a baseball
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  pitcher. Probably not.
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  If he's, you know, doing stunts for a movie, he's probably not a
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  professional anymore. OK, I just thought I'd ask.
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  I know you're in an emotional state still right now.
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  Yeah. I'm dead inside.
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  I really don't care. All right, So the budget is
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  300,000. So you are correct.
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  It's Buck Ted, the opening box office I don't have a figure
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  for, but I make up with that by having three figures for the
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  worldwide gross. OK?
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  So it's either 6.8 million, 11.9 million or 22 million, OK.
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  And the weird thing is they all had sources.
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  So which one is the correct source?
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  I can't tell you. Yeah, I guess it would depend on
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  what they're counting for the different like.
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  I do know it made more than 6.8 million.
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  I can tell you that one for sure.
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  So that one's wrong. This feels like at trivia night
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  when you get one of the random like multiple choice and you're
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  like, is it a trick question? Yes, in this case, I guess kind
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  of because we don't know. Yeah, OK.
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  So IMDb 6.6. All right, yeah, good for
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  Phantasm. Yeah, people like it.
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  Ish OK so I've got 3 movies from 1979.
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  OK, I will say 1979 is a pain in the ass to find any theme for
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  because. There are just random years like
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  that where it's like, I know movies came out around this
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  time, but I guess not this specific year, you know?
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  There's not a lot of horror movies, but there's a lot of big
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  ones. OK, so I've got 3 here and I
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  guess the theme is not what it seems, kind of.
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  So the first movie is Alien. Which big movie?
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  Yeah. The whole premise of that movie
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  is they went to go check on like a mysterious signal, then they
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  just thought it was going to be like a.
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  The whole premise is that nobody listened to Ripley except for
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  Jonesy, and like how that worked out for them.
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  Yeah, it was just basically not what it seems.
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  So that movie came out June 22nd, 1979 with an $11 million
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  budget worldwide gross. By the way, not the year that
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  was Morgan's birthday. Oh, happy birthday Morgan and
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  the Year You Were Not Born. Budget $11 million Worldwide
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  Gross 108 million IMDb 8.5. Yeah.
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  Damn, that's a big one. All right, next movie, The
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  Amityville Horror. OK.
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  It's not what it seems. Because that's a good deal in
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  the house. Yeah, it can't be too good.
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  Can't. Be that good.
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  Really, what you're expecting when you get a good deal on the
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  House is like black mold. Yeah, exactly.
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  Not ghosts. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So that released July 27th, 1979
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  Four point 7 million Budget $86 million gross 6.2 IMDb OK.
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  Yeah, I think I've seen the original Amityville.
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  Where one time I. Don't think I ever have.
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  Yeah, we should probably watch it together.
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  Yeah, there was a remake that came out when we were in school.
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  Yeah, I saw Ryan. Reynolds One.
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  Yeah, I saw that. They showed it cuz they used to
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  do movies on the football field. Yeah, and I watched it like
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  freshman year. I like college.
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  I was talking about high school. But yeah, they, well, they
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  showed. It yeah, they showed it in
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  college. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, I don't think EKU was shelling out like exclusive
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  rights for an in theaters movie. Maybe they would have like that
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  one weird thing every now and then.
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  That is true. They'd be like, hey, do you want
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  to see Jerry Seinfeld on campus? Is that weird?
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  Maybe. Yeah, I would.
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  It was OK. That's a whole other thing.
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  So the final movie Tourist trap, that one's multi wave for me.
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  It's not what it seems because, well, you know, it's a little
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  place and you know, it seems like a quiet little town with
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  this guy with his bubby. But, you know, if you don't know
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  the movie, then I won't ruin anything.
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  But it's not what it seems to me, because it seemed like it
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  would have been a really cool movie, but it wasn't.
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  Yeah, it's, you know, we talked about last week how like they're
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  Jessie movies can be very hit or miss.
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  The same is true for Travis movies at times I guess.
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  That's true, yeah. You know.
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  And tourist trap is everything I would expect for you to like in
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  a movie. Me too.
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  Yeah. There was a lot of right things
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  there that just didn't really work out in my favor.
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  I understand why people like it though.
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  Yeah, I know a lot of people really love that movie and I'm
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  very happy for them. I God, that's I'm going to work
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  on something else. If this absolutely has to be on
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  the TV right now. That's that's where I'm at with.
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  It yeah, I've given it several shots.
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  I just, every time I walk away, I'm like just, it wasn't that
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  great. I TuneIn for the interesting
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  parts. Yeah, So I give it.
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  It's like a total of maybe 20 minutes.
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  Yeah. Well, a lot of people kind of
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  say the House of Wax movie is kind of a remake of that.
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  Yeah, which I could see that, Yeah.
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  And House of Wax I feel like did better if you asked me, but I
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  know that I'm definitely in the minority.
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  Controversial yet brave. Yeah, obviously we're a big
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  House of Wax fans, and it's not just cuz of JPADS.
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  No, it's not. It's a.
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  Good thing, although it's not because of JPADS, it doesn't.
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  Hurt to have. Him.
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  I know that that was impossible back in 1979, so I won't fault
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  this movie for that. I'm.
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  Going to say this is really nice because like we can look at each
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  other while we're talking this time it's true being like side
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  by side it's. A little nice.
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  I also feel a little bit out of my element because I'm not in my
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  usual scene with like a microphone in my face right now.
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  I feel comfy. I've got my fuzzy blinky on my
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  cider. Yeah, Talia snoring in the
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  background. She is, Yeah.
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  OK, so God, what did I say? You've read about.
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  That OK? No, I don't think I gave any of
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  the information yet. So it released March 16th, 1979.
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  So it was playing at the same time as Phantasm budget 350,000.
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  So it's like $50,000 more than Phantasm, but I don't have the
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  gross IMDb 6 out of 10. OK, all right, I got some tag
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  lines. All right, I hope they're silly,
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  because this maybe deserves some silly tag lines.
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  They are kind of silly a little bit, yeah.
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  So the one on the poster is If this one doesn't scare you,
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  you're already dead. Oh yeah, I forgot that the 70s
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  are mostly tag lines about like accusations towards the
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  audience. Yeah.
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  Well, this one it turns more into the silly territory.
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  If you're looking for a horror that's got balls, it's found to
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  you. I love that.
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  I love that. I'm never going to be mad about
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  a ball pun. It's.
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  Pretty funny this ball wants to play with you for keeps.
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  It had me until the for keeps. Yeah, I don't get that.
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  That one kind of confused me a little bit.
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  OK, beware the ball. Beware the tall man.
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  Beware the never dead. Never.
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  That's a cool term for that. Yeah, I like that.
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  Did we ever hear it anywhere in the movie?
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  Maybe sequels? OK.
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  I don't know. All right, Final one where the
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  dead are no longer that way. OK, that's kind.
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  Of cool, yeah. I mean, it's cool, yeah.
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  You have to stop and think about it.
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  And then you're like, that's one of those.
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  Ones where like you say, and you could register as deep, but also
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  like if you just look at it at face value, it's kind of stupid,
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  you know? But that's, that's what I like
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  about it. Yeah, that's how I say most
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  things. I'm glad you said it so I didn't
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  have to. It's OK, I saw your face.
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  OK, it's. Because we're looking at each
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  other. Let's do fun facts.
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  All right, so the initial idea for this movie came from a
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  nightmare that Don Casarelli had where he was actually being
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  chased by orbs through a hallway.
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  And they, well, he was afraid that they would drill his head,
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  which is exactly what happens in this movie.
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  That's what those orbs do. He chose to make a horror movie
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  for his next film when he did this because of the poor
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  performances that his previous movies said, which I think that
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  they were more comedies. Maybe he did like 2 before this
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  I think, but they didn't. They didn't do too well.
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  Are you looking this up right? Now yeah, I want to see what his
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  other movies are. Oh dude, he wrote Babajotep and
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  John dies at the end. Ding Dogs. 1-2 they did.
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  Oh, I haven't even heard of these other two.
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  Jim, the World's Greatest and Kenny and Company.
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  OK, yeah, Kenny and company was the one that he did for this
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  movie. Masters of Horror, Shawn dies at
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  the end and then just a bunch of Phantasm movies.
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  Yeah, yeah. He's working on that movie
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  series like, I think from the start to the end, which is kind
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  of actually one of the cool things about this movie is the
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  whole cast and crew has stuck throughout except his one weird
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  thing in Phantasm 2, they didn't want to cast Mike.
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  They want like, Universal got the rights for it and they like,
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  blew it up and like, all right, let's turn this into like a big,
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  you know, Hollywood production thing.
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  And I guess one of the things I read was they didn't want the
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  kid. They're like, all right, we'll
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  do it, but I don't want that fucking kid.
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  I mean he was the only like definitive survivor in this.
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  Yeah, I guess the only one we didn't see die.
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  Yeah, that's what I mean. Although I guess you could
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  interpret it like what if he actually did die when he fell
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  into the portal? Oh Dang.
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  Yeah, you don't know. Yeah.
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  But either way, they've all been consistent throughout.
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  But OK, so he chose to do a horror movie after all that
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  stuff, That last one something. Jim, the world's Greatest and
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  Kenny and Company. Kenny and company, yeah, he, he
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  wanted to do horror for his next one because he he knew that they
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  had better, they tend to do better performance wise, lower
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  budget people tend to go out for horror movies.
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  But also, he saw the reactions that he got from a jump scare in
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  that movie, and that kind of got him interested in making
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  something that is, you know, scary.
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  There were some legitimate jump scares in this movie for me too.
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  So in order to get this thing funded, it was funded partially,
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  I think mostly actually by his dad.
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  Papa Costco? Really.
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  Yeah, he he did most of the funding they had like other
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  professionals that did it too, but it was kind of low budget.
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  Obviously. He also has his mom helping.
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  She did special effects for something I'm.
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  At classical. Really did some costumes and
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  also did some make out. That's sweet.
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  Yeah. I like that both his parents
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  were involved. Yeah, it was actually.
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  A lot of the cast and crew were working on it.
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  They were all small, from what I was reading.
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  They're all a bunch of people that are amateurs trying to
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  become professionals, so it's just like a lot of people
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  working together. I mean, that's how a lot of low
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  budget indie horror movies are even in 2024.
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  Yeah, they did filming on weekends, mostly because he was
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  able to rent the equipment on Fridays, which means you got to
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  keep them for Saturday and Sunday without being charged
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  those days. Smart, so you game the system.
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  They barely had a scripts. Oh, you don't say.
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  Yeah. So it was, they said that it was
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  basically they're flying off of the seat of their pants.
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  Is that the term? Flying by the seat of their
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  pants. Flying by the seat of their
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  pants, they were just kind of riffing with it.
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  He had a lot of ideas. He, he had like a solid idea of
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  like where he wanted the movie to come from, but he didn't
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  really know how to play out. So really they ended up
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  improvising a lot of scenes. Yeah.
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  Let's see, I got a quote here. Actually, if anybody's confused
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  about the movie, about what it is or why it is, this is like
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  basically the theme for the movie.
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  This is a quote from him. I had a compunction to try to do
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  something in the horror genre, and I started thinking about how
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  our culture handles death. It's different than in other
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  societies. We have this central figure of a
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  mortician. He dresses in dark clothing, he
• 20:26
  works behind doors. They do procedures on the bodies
• 20:29
  we don't know about. The whole embalming thing.
• 20:31
  If you ever do any research on it is pretty freaky.
• 20:34
  It all culminates in this grand funerary service production.
• 20:37
  It's strange stuff. I mean, he's not wrong about
• 20:42
  literally any of it. And if you think about it, even
• 20:44
  going back to things like The Mummy, one of the earliest
• 20:47
  Universal horror monsters, right, it's a similar kind of
• 20:50
  premise because once again, think about the process of how a
• 20:54
  mummy is mummified. You know, they're like pull out
• 20:57
  the brain through the nose. They like they're they're, you
• 21:01
  know, rights for the ancient Egyptians was was very much, you
• 21:08
  know, something we're not familiar with.
• 21:10
  But even if we are familiar with like, thinking about it in
• 21:12
  detail feels kind of gruesome, so.
• 21:15
  Yeah, a little bit, yeah. It was weird because my mom is
• 21:19
  always weirdly a part of the process of that whenever like
• 21:23
  she would have a customer and I would pass away.
• 21:25
  Oh, did she do their hair? For them, yeah, they, they do
• 21:28
  like they do all this stuff and even like.
• 21:31
  Grim but sweet. Actually, yeah, it's kind of
• 21:33
  cool. Like their family would be like,
• 21:36
  hey, like, can you do their hair one last time?
• 21:39
  So it does get weird. And yeah, when you see the
• 21:43
  people, they often don't even look the same.
• 21:46
  Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, so that was a big part of
• 21:51
  it. He also had the whole thing of
• 21:53
  like, being a kid and how kids handle that stuff.
• 21:56
  Like one of the central themes about this is basically how, you
• 21:59
  know kids get scared and nobody believes them about the things
• 22:02
  that they get scared. Of yeah, especially like when
• 22:05
  you're going through things that like adults do understand, it's
• 22:08
  so easy to be like, Oh well, you're just like taking this
• 22:11
  thing and projecting it on to something else.
• 22:13
  Like, it's so easy to, you know, push that, like, push that aside
• 22:19
  for your child. I don't want to say gaslighting
• 22:21
  because it's not like intentional, Yeah, but.
• 22:23
  There's a way that people handle those conversations with kids
• 22:26
  where you're kind of just lying to them just to try and save
• 22:30
  them. And then when they get on,
• 22:31
  they're like, yeah, I was fucking lying.
• 22:33
  Yeah. That wasn't real.
• 22:37
  Yeah, so actually that's part of the reason why.
• 22:41
  So the weird not having a consistent vision is part of the
• 22:45
  reason why dream logic is a thing in this movie, is because
• 22:48
  he didn't really have an idea. The editing process got weird.
• 22:52
  They filmed several endings. This movie was actually over
• 22:55
  three hours long originally. She's his age.
• 22:58
  He had to cut a lot of it because he was afraid that it
• 23:01
  wouldn't hold audience's attention at that level.
• 23:04
  It would not have held mine. It wouldn't have mine either,
• 23:07
  but then again, we watch movies like Midsummer and those movies
• 23:10
  fly by. That yeah, well, that's a very
• 23:12
  specific kind of narrative. That's true.
• 23:16
  Dream logic is a very different kind of narrative and it lends
• 23:22
  itself to a shorter format I think most of the time.
• 23:25
  So not really having a clear vision, like just kind of made
• 23:29
  editing kind of weird for him. They filmed several endings,
• 23:32
  like I said, but one of them actually makes a return in
• 23:36
  Phantasm 4. So if you're watching Phantasm
• 23:40
  4, a lot of that stuff is the result of this movie, one of the
• 23:44
  unused bits of footage that they have.
• 23:47
  So Don Cascarelli paid an audience for a test screening
• 23:50
  just to see how people felt about it.
• 23:53
  It did not go well. Apparently he's courted as
• 23:55
  saying it was a disaster, but he did get some positive reactions
• 23:59
  from it. So he kind of took a win from
• 24:01
  that. And the only reason this thing
• 24:03
  actually got purchased for distribution is because of
• 24:06
  Halloween's success. It came out the year before.
• 24:09
  It did really well. Horror movies were kind of
• 24:11
  booming, so people were taking gambles on them.
• 24:13
  So somebody's like, fuck it, let's do it, let's roll with it,
• 24:15
  let's roll the dice on this one. And yeah, clearly it didn't do
• 24:20
  amazing, but it didn't do badly. It did enough came a whole
• 24:23
  favor. Most recently was had a release
• 24:27
  in 2016, so. Yeah, it's a cult favorite.
• 24:30
  Yeah. You know, which is usually
• 24:32
  movies I don't do well, but I think this one did OK enough.
• 24:36
  Yeah. Anyways, I feel like my
• 24:37
  information on this was as jumbled as the vision for this
• 24:39
  movie, but that's all I've got. I feel like I learned a lot.
• 24:43
  OK. Well, I hope everybody else
• 24:45
  thank you. All right, so that's it for my
• 24:47
  stuff. So let's get into the good, bad,
• 24:50
  ugly and absurd. Jesse, you kick it off.
• 24:53
  What did you like about it? Man, so I said after we watched
• 24:57
  this that I was glad that we had a day longer than normal between
• 25:02
  watching the movie and recording the episode so that way I had
• 25:05
  time to process. Did it actually help?
• 25:08
  I do think it helped because I've had time to like kind of
• 25:11
  ruminate on bits and pieces of it.
• 25:13
  Also, I'll get into it in a second.
• 25:17
  It did kind of put me in a weird headspace yesterday, so I like
• 25:22
  that. I read a lot of fantasy novels,
• 25:26
  and with fantasy novels, you just kind of are immersed in the
• 25:30
  world and they don't explain shit.
• 25:33
  So you're just kind of like, OK, this is a thing that's happening
• 25:37
  and I appreciate it when movies do the same thing when they're
• 25:41
  like, weird enough and you just have to accept it as part of the
• 25:45
  universe. So like, we've got these flying
• 25:47
  orbs. We don't really get an
• 25:49
  explanation for why, but it's creepy and it's a cool effect
• 25:53
  and I'm OK with it. It's part of what they do.
• 25:57
  I'm cool. We get like half an explanation
• 26:01
  for the dead being like shrunken down because of the gravity on
• 26:04
  the planet. Like, OK, cool.
• 26:08
  Don't really explain how that's happening other than barrels.
• 26:12
  I, you know, like we're, we have basically as much information as
• 26:16
  the main characters and I always think that's a little bit more
• 26:18
  fun, you know what I mean? Yeah, I I also just, I guess to
• 26:22
  ride with you on this. It's a grounded world in a way.
• 26:27
  But at the same time, supernatural stuff isn't
• 26:30
  uncommon because it opens with Mike seeing like like a fortune
• 26:35
  teller or I don't know what she is.
• 26:37
  She's just this woman that like. Yeah.
• 26:39
  Has magical abilities, yeah, but it's like for him, well, maybe I
• 26:45
  guess it goes into the part like is it because it's from the kid,
• 26:49
  the kids imagination, right. You know, like he's like, well,
• 26:53
  it makes sense to me because I'm a kid.
• 26:55
  I went to see this woman. She told me don't be afraid.
• 26:56
  So I'm like, OK, I won't be afraid.
• 26:59
  She made a box appear. Yeah.
• 27:02
  That's why like every kid deals with that shit right there.
• 27:04
  Yeah, and then I think also the ending is very realistic and
• 27:09
  heartbreaking. You know, it makes it hard to
• 27:13
  understand what did and didn't happen in the movie.
• 27:17
  You know what I mean? Spoilers, obviously, but like,
• 27:20
  we think Reggie's dead and that Mike and Jody survived, and then
• 27:24
  Mike wakes up and Reggie's taking care of him because Mike
• 27:27
  had actually died a year prior. Yeah.
• 27:30
  And I've been having constant dreams over the past year of
• 27:37
  somebody that I have lost still being alive, and then I have to
• 27:41
  wake up and process all over again.
• 27:45
  And I think this movie triggered that in me that night.
• 27:48
  So like yesterday, I was like in a weird space with it.
• 27:52
  And I think that, you know, if he's trying to touch on those
• 27:55
  themes of like the gruesomeness of death, you know, going beyond
• 28:01
  just the funeral stuff, but like how people process it, He hit on
• 28:05
  a very real thing that I don't think really gets talked about a
• 28:09
  lot. You know, people talk about like
• 28:10
  dreaming of people that they've lost, but it they don't talk
• 28:13
  about how like it. It's like an additional
• 28:16
  processing thing. I don't know.
• 28:18
  It was, it was just. Struck a chord.
• 28:22
  Yeah, I got you. Yeah, Yeah.
• 28:23
  It hit a very raw nerve and not in a way that like it was like.
• 28:28
  It's like in the way it hits. If you can't, it's oh, what the
• 28:31
  fuck ending, You know what I mean?
• 28:33
  I guess it yeah, I get your mileage may vary based off of
• 28:36
  your experiences with how you process that stuff.
• 28:39
  Yeah. Cuz yeah, for me, like, you
• 28:42
  know, it was just kind of, I guess it surprised me again
• 28:46
  seeing it with you. I'm like, oh fuck, I forgot.
• 28:50
  He like is I knew Reggie was back, but I just thought he like
• 28:54
  showed it was like, hey, I'm Reggie.
• 28:56
  I'm back because like, you know, that's like 90% of his movies.
• 29:00
  Like don't worry, wreck my ice cream truck back there.
• 29:03
  I went into another dimension. It's OK.
• 29:05
  I'm Reggie. That's, you know, that's what I
• 29:07
  thought we were getting. But now he's like, dude, your
• 29:10
  brother died, you know, you're just having a hard time
• 29:14
  processing this shit. And I'm going to take you and
• 29:17
  we're going to go on the road. And I don't know what we're
• 29:19
  going to do, but I'm going to play this guitar right now.
• 29:21
  Yeah. Everybody needs a Reggie.
• 29:24
  Yeah. In their life.
• 29:26
  Honestly, Reggie is one of the best parts about this movie.
• 29:28
  All right. Do you have any more to go?
• 29:31
  That's it. Like, I mean, the whole movie is
• 29:33
  just kind of a vibe. Yeah.
• 29:37
  It probably depends on what kind of a person you are and what
• 29:40
  kind of a headspace you're in on.
• 29:41
  If it's a good or a bad vibe. It was very much what the fuck?
• 29:45
  But I was OK with the what the fuck if that makes sense.
• 29:49
  Yeah, it's weird. It's a weird movie.
• 29:51
  Yeah. So I guess my good things.
• 29:55
  I really like this cast that we have, the core group of people
• 29:59
  that we have. I thought that they worked
• 30:01
  really well together. Like I said before, I love
• 30:03
  Reggie. I like the kid, the kids, cool.
• 30:06
  He's like, I don't even know, man.
• 30:09
  Like he behaves like a kid, but he also behaves like an adult at
• 30:13
  time. So like, he'll be there.
• 30:14
  He'll be fucking driving the car with a Jodie in the passenger
• 30:17
  seat, and then he gets out and he works on the car while Jodie
• 30:19
  just goes over and plays guitar and shit, you know what I mean?
• 30:22
  Yeah, it's like a weird dynamic that.
• 30:24
  And Jodie stands right over the the hood of the car saying,
• 30:28
  yeah, I'm going to ship the kid off to our aunts.
• 30:30
  Right in his fucking face. Yeah, he's he's bold for that.
• 30:35
  Yeah. I like the imagery in this movie
• 30:37
  a lot. I think that they do a lot of
• 30:39
  cool shots, especially when we're in the mausoleum.
• 30:44
  What's the place called again in Mosgrove Morningside.
• 30:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, Morningside. Like the marble interior and
• 30:52
  stuff in like the hallways. Yeah, like a mausoleum is a real
• 30:55
  thing. I know.
• 30:56
  That's the. Actual term for the.
• 30:57
  Place but then. I was thinking of the actual,
• 31:00
  the name of the building itself. Yeah.
• 31:03
  But yeah, I know those shots are really cool.
• 31:05
  I like the flying orb thing a lot.
• 31:07
  It happens like twice. But like, and we don't get any
• 31:11
  explanation for why we have flying orbs in there.
• 31:14
  But you know, that's kind of one of the things I like about
• 31:16
  certain horror movies is you get into a weird place and it's a
• 31:20
  lot of what the fuck? And you don't know why, and the
• 31:23
  not knowing why and no reasoning or logic behind it kind of adds
• 31:28
  to the uneasiness, Especially when you have the tall man.
• 31:32
  The tall man is such a fucking cool idea for a villain just
• 31:36
  like this tall older dude. Yeah, he cuz he is like really
• 31:40
  fucking tall and honestly like he's got, he's a good lurker.
• 31:46
  He is. He's got a good face.
• 31:47
  Yeah. Yeah, he he plays the part well.
• 31:50
  It's just he's a good presence on screen.
• 31:52
  He's a good enemy to have for Mike.
• 31:55
  Yeah. Apart from the things that you
• 31:57
  said, those are my goods. OK.
• 32:00
  OK, bad. Like, like I said, I'm fine with
• 32:04
  the what the fuck, miss, but I do think that there are a lot of
• 32:08
  elements just kind of thrown in, yeah that don't really make a
• 32:15
  ton of. Like we get a bunch of random
• 32:17
  characters that are cannon fodder but they're so tied to
• 32:22
  the main characters like storyline that their endings
• 32:27
  feel like undeserved and how they happen, you know what I
• 32:32
  mean? See, my bad is I think the same
• 32:34
  as yours. It's so I like having movies
• 32:39
  that like I said, are weird and they don't have explanations.
• 32:43
  But this movie didn't feel like it was intentional.
• 32:46
  It just kind of felt like it was a mess when they were trying to
• 32:51
  figure it's like they didn't know.
• 32:54
  And I feel like that's easy to see when you watch the movie
• 32:58
  because yeah, if I'm watching something like one of those
• 33:01
  weird Adult Swim things where it's weird and like they don't,
• 33:05
  you know, it's, it's like weird and all over the place.
• 33:08
  But like, I feel like there's a purpose.
• 33:10
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 33:12
  Whereas this like and hearing you explain the background
• 33:16
  behind it, I was like, well that explains about 90% of the
• 33:19
  questions I have. Yeah.
• 33:21
  And I think the the worst part of it for me is the opening
• 33:25
  because it goes so many places. Yeah, and see, and like there's
• 33:32
  things like, so Tommy is lured out to the cemetery to be
• 33:35
  killed. So I guess he's like, people
• 33:37
  aren't dying fast enough in this small town.
• 33:38
  Whatever. He's got to recruit them.
• 33:41
  That's my interpretation of it. I have no clue that's the
• 33:43
  correct interpretation. But like, what happens, like
• 33:46
  that little girl that comes in, the granddaughter, the
• 33:49
  grandmother's granddaughter, and she's just killed.
• 33:52
  We don't see if she's ever turned into anybody.
• 33:55
  Like why, you know, Morph himself.
• 33:58
  I'm just confused about the victimology of it all and why he
• 34:04
  needs to lure people out. Like I'm just I don't
• 34:07
  understand. Yeah, I don't either.
• 34:09
  I can't give you any answer. I've seen this movie like three
• 34:14
  Times Now, maybe 4:00, and yeah, it's just a weird fucking movie.
• 34:18
  OK, so ugly. What's up?
• 34:23
  I mean, I guess a lot of what Mike is going through, you know,
• 34:28
  like whatever his interpretations of Jodi are seem
• 34:33
  to show a lot of his like, inner fears.
• 34:36
  So like the whole, I'm gonna ship him off to his aunts and
• 34:44
  you know, then his like dream, is it real?
• 34:46
  Is it not? Is he still alive?
• 34:48
  You know, things like that. I think just like a lot of his
• 34:51
  life is ugly, he's also having like he's being targeted by the
• 34:56
  tall boy again. Tall boy, you doing that
• 34:59
  intentionally? Yes.
• 34:59
  OK, internally, counting how many times I could say it before
• 35:08
  you got frustrated and I got too, so that's fun.
• 35:11
  I did write Tall Boy all the way through my notes.
• 35:13
  I don't like. That but yeah, so again, it
• 35:19
  comes back to like what is his victimology?
• 35:22
  You know what I mean? I'm so like as he just after
• 35:26
  Mike because Mike's on to him, but like nobody is believing
• 35:30
  Mike, except then Jody does start to believe Mike because of
• 35:33
  his fingers. And then, Oh my God, his fingers
• 35:35
  turning into a giant bug. Bug.
• 35:39
  Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:43
  So I'd say that's that's the gist of my ugly.
• 35:46
  OK, yeah, this is a weird one to, you know, I guess like
• 35:50
  turning these people. They say that the dwarves in the
• 35:57
  movie are becoming slaves, which I guess that's fucked up if
• 36:02
  you're just learning people to, you know, have sex with them and
• 36:07
  then turn them into slave dwarfs.
• 36:10
  That's not, you know, that's not good.
• 36:14
  I don't think that that's a good thing.
• 36:16
  Yeah, but do we know if that's the case?
• 36:18
  I don't know. Mike just, like, saw a bunch of
• 36:20
  them. He's like slaves.
• 36:22
  And like, here's a gun. It feels like it's mostly only
• 36:25
  men. Yeah.
• 36:26
  And I'm confused. Like I I'm just.
• 36:29
  I'm. I think we've only saw like
• 36:30
  what, 2 divorce faces? It was Tommy, and maybe it was
• 36:36
  just Tommy. Yeah, well, and like they see
• 36:38
  that their father's body is not in the casket, so they have an
• 36:41
  assumption they're they don't check for their moms.
• 36:43
  That's true. They don't.
• 36:45
  I don't think they had enough time at that point.
• 36:47
  They had flying orbs to worry. About yeah, that's true.
• 36:50
  Yeah. Yeah, been orbed.
• 36:52
  Yeah, OK, absurd. OK, besides the fingies.
• 36:58
  Yeah. And I go with how often closed
• 37:01
  captioning use the word warbling.
• 37:04
  Yeah, it's not the terminalities, but I'm not mad
• 37:07
  that they used to. Also, whenever the warbling is
• 37:10
  strange versus normalized, I again I I want some internal
• 37:15
  consistency. I'm OK with not having the rules
• 37:17
  explained to me, I just want there to be consistency in them.
• 37:20
  I think it's funny that this movie, that's the thing that you
• 37:24
  was like, and that's the weird part about it.
• 37:26
  Well I feel like it would be a cop out to say like everything.
• 37:31
  No, you can get very specific. I got 3 examples right here.
• 37:33
  OK, let's hear your examples. All right, first one bullet
• 37:38
  hammer. Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
• 37:43
  Mike busts out of his room because Jodi locks him in his
• 37:47
  bedroom by taking a hammer. And.
• 37:50
  Taping a bullet, A screwdriver. I was saying Jodi locks him in
• 37:54
  there with like by shoving a screwdriver into the like
• 37:57
  wedging it into. The door?
• 37:58
  No, this is the construction of the hammer.
• 38:00
  Weapon I feel like Jodi should be the child's name and Mike
• 38:03
  should be the adult's name, so I'm having to be very careful
• 38:07
  during this conversation. So yeah, he did that and he
• 38:11
  busts out by just banging it up against the door, which created
• 38:14
  a hole. So, you know, I like the idea of
• 38:16
  it, but that's weird. Yeah.
• 38:19
  The second one is the tall man fucks his victims.
• 38:22
  You didn't have to do that. You didn't have to turn into a
• 38:26
  woman to where these people over there and fuck them.
• 38:28
  No, you know. What I mean, he could have just
• 38:30
  like, you know, gotten them when he had them isolated, but he
• 38:33
  like he waits until they finish. Is that a kindness on his part?
• 38:38
  I think that's a kink on his part.
• 38:41
  I think he's into it. Yeah.
• 38:43
  Which is weird. It's like adding that extra
• 38:46
  little bit like do you think it's good for him?
• 38:49
  Do you think he likes it if he like turns into the old man and
• 38:52
  then that's when they finish? Or does it like mid finish he
• 38:56
  turns into the old man to like jolt them into like, oh, because
• 38:59
  that's going to be one of the most confusing finishes that
• 39:02
  you've, you know. That if he does it mid finish
• 39:05
  like where does their pee pee go?
• 39:07
  Dude, I don't die, but you know the.
• 39:13
  From the angle that seems unrealistic, but.
• 39:16
  I don't know, man. I don't know.
• 39:19
  I don't care to get into the details either.
• 39:22
  You opened this can of forms. OK, let me close it and I'll
• 39:26
  present my final bit of when they are in the house and a
• 39:32
  random woman I can't even remember her name comes down.
• 39:34
  She's like hey, where have you all been?
• 39:35
  And like Jesus, what are you doing here?
• 39:36
  You almost gave me a heart attack.
• 39:38
  No, hold on, I wrote it down where I just have to figure out
• 39:42
  where it's at. I think it's misses Casey.
• 39:46
  No, it's not. No, it's Myrtle.
• 39:48
  So I wrote. Who the fuck is Myrtle?
• 39:49
  Yeah, and she is never to be seen again.
• 39:52
  She shows up for one scene to scare Reggie.
• 39:55
  And that's it. I want the Side Story of Reggie
• 39:59
  and Myrtle it seems. I want their buddy cop movie.
• 40:01
  Was this in Reggie's home? I don't think so.
• 40:05
  I won't think it was in Jodie and Mike's home.
• 40:08
  But maybe they've been in Reggie's home this whole time
• 40:11
  because Mike was actually living with Reggie.
• 40:13
  Because Jodie's dead. I don't.
• 40:15
  It's weird. Yeah.
• 40:17
  Maybe that's just like a weird part of, you know, the kid
• 40:21
  nightmare dream where it's like, oh, and Myrtle's here.
• 40:24
  Like, yeah. Whoa.
• 40:25
  OK, that was a weird detour we took.
• 40:26
  Yeah, like. All right, that's good.
• 40:29
  Maybe we unpack this in later Phantasm movies.
• 40:32
  I hope she. Arrives.
• 40:33
  I hope. Yes, I hope.
• 40:35
  We have Myrtle for five seconds in each movie.
• 40:38
  Yeah, scaring Reggie. But in one of them, Reggie
• 40:42
  scares Myrtle. Which is a fake out because and
• 40:48
  so it's not actually Myrtle. And then Myrtle scares him.
• 40:51
  OK. OK.
• 40:55
  So what do you rate it? I think right now I'm going to
• 40:58
  give it a 6.75. OK, that's where I'm at.
• 41:03
  I think for me 7 1/2 is where it's at.
• 41:06
  That's where it's at. I'm not going to do this math in
• 41:09
  my head today. It's just not happening. 7.125,
• 41:14
  starting average, OK. That's solid.
• 41:16
  Yeah, OK. All right, let's do this thing.
• 41:22
  All right, so we begin in the cemetery with two people
• 41:26
  fucking. My first note says moaning and
• 41:29
  boning. Moaning and boning, Yeah, that's
• 41:31
  true. So it's like we were just
• 41:33
  talking about. Oh, Tommy, dude, he just, he's
• 41:38
  just laying there. He's like the he's doing the
• 41:42
  dude version of star fishing. Yeah.
• 41:44
  Yeah. That was great.
• 41:47
  And that lighting is not kind to his very 70s facial hair.
• 41:53
  Yeah, neither is his very 70s facial hair kind of him.
• 41:57
  All right. So they're having sex, and right
• 42:01
  whenever he's done, they just keep zooming in on the woman's
• 42:05
  face, and then it turns into a tall man.
• 42:08
  Yeah. With a scowl.
• 42:10
  He's not happy. No, you know what?
• 42:12
  It wouldn't kill him to smile after this, you know what I
• 42:16
  mean? Yeah, like, dude, if this was
• 42:18
  your kink, I don't know. Enjoy your moment.
• 42:19
  Like, you didn't have to take it this far, man.
• 42:22
  You didn't have to if you didn't want to.
• 42:24
  If you're not having a good time, don't do this.
• 42:26
  Yeah, like it's really not necessary because just the
• 42:31
  thought of having sex appears to be enough to get most men in
• 42:35
  this town out to the cemetery. Yeah, right.
• 42:38
  Yeah, they don't question it. Yeah, what What they should be
• 42:41
  questioning is Tommy's two best friends, Jodi and Reggie.
• 42:44
  They are there for the funeral some undisclosed amount of time
• 42:48
  later. And I think that he has killed
• 42:50
  himself. Which stabbing yourself in the
• 42:53
  chest. Odd decision, Yeah.
• 42:56
  I mean, I mean, maybe they don't have the details.
• 42:58
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were all weird
• 43:01
  things, suicides all the time. Also like, what was his home
• 43:04
  life like? Because yeah, because if Reggie
• 43:09
  and Jodi are his two best friends, like, how often is he
• 43:14
  saying that? Who supposedly found the body?
• 43:17
  I guess whoever worked at the cemetery.
• 43:19
  Yeah, but like, what's the cover story?
• 43:21
  Because obviously, like, we know that the tall boy has.
• 43:24
  Were they? Yeah, I don't know.
• 43:26
  Whoa. The thing is, I think they all
• 43:28
  end up there anyways because he's the mortician, I think.
• 43:33
  Yes, that I understand, but like, what is the cover story
• 43:36
  for the rest of the town? Oh, I don't know.
• 43:39
  That's what I'm saying. Like the people that show up to
• 43:41
  the funeral, what do they think happened beyond supposedly he
• 43:44
  killed himself? I think if we're really wanting
• 43:47
  to get this deep into it, it was probably, oh, he died.
• 43:51
  Cops are saying word in the street is maybe he killed
• 43:54
  himself. Still an ongoing investigation.
• 43:57
  Cops are like all right boys, back it up.
• 44:00
  Good job take. Them away toys.
• 44:03
  All right, so yeah, they're doing that.
• 44:07
  Meanwhile, Mike has followed them there.
• 44:10
  He wasn't supposed to be there because, you know, Jody didn't
• 44:14
  want him to see Tommy dead. I guess he wanted to protect his
• 44:17
  13 year old brother from this. Yeah.
• 44:21
  So he decided to take upon himself to dirt bike over there,
• 44:24
  Yeah. And just kind of watched from a.
• 44:25
  Distance of stalking methods. Yeah, you know, So he continues
• 44:33
  watching after the fact, after everybody leaves.
• 44:35
  And then he watches as the tall man is by himself, and he takes
• 44:39
  the casket that had Tommy and then picks it up by himself and
• 44:42
  loads it back up in the hearse. But also like this casket, we
• 44:45
  saw it get lowered into the grave, so that means at some
• 44:49
  point he had to watch it get unlowered before the tall boy.
• 44:52
  Just like shoves it back in the hearse.
• 44:55
  Yeah, you're no logic in this movie, OK?
• 44:58
  You can't bring logic, because if we do that, we're going to
• 45:01
  stop and question every single thing in this movie.
• 45:03
  Also, I'm sorry once again, the hearse is literally coming down
• 45:09
  from the mausoleum to the graveyard.
• 45:12
  A total of maybe 400 feet. It's not that far.
• 45:16
  Yeah, but do you want to carry it all the way from there to the
• 45:20
  grave? Because that's a big carry.
• 45:22
  It it feels like it's not that much more than getting it into
• 45:25
  the hearse. Have you ever?
• 45:27
  Have you ever carried one of those?
• 45:29
  No Heavy. Very heavy.
• 45:32
  I know that, I'm just saying it feels very decorative.
• 45:35
  Yeah, Yeah, maybe it is a show like he said in his little thing
• 45:40
  there. Yeah, it becomes like a whole
• 45:43
  little performance, basically in the the mind of a child, which
• 45:48
  if we're watching this from a mind from a child, I mean, it's
• 45:52
  gonna be weird, weirdly exaggerated.
• 45:55
  So he sees, he freaks out. He's just to hear some warbling.
• 46:00
  He's just got normalized warbling inside where Jody is
• 46:06
  looking at his parents resting place.
• 46:09
  He gets strange warbling, yes. So yeah.
• 46:13
  Mike. Distinction.
• 46:14
  Yeah. Mike gets warbling.
• 46:16
  Jody gets strange warbling. So it cuts to Mike now visiting
• 46:21
  a friend's grandma. Yeah.
• 46:24
  Assuming she's a psychic, they don't say it I.
• 46:28
  Don't think it's. I don't think the girl is his
• 46:30
  friend either. They don't.
• 46:32
  There's no connection. He just shows up to this place
• 46:34
  and he's like I. Need to talk to your
• 46:35
  grandmother? Yeah, OK, So they go over there.
• 46:38
  She see this is a weird thing. It's just, like, it starts
• 46:44
  cutting back and forth, and it's a little bit jarring, and it's
• 46:48
  hard to tell what's happening. So it cuts back to, like, at the
• 46:51
  house. He's working on the car.
• 46:54
  Meanwhile, Toby stops by to chat with Jodie.
• 46:58
  And he's like, hey, man, just stop by wanting to say, I heard
• 47:01
  about your all's parents. And I wanted to say, I'm sorry
• 47:03
  to hear that. And he's like, yeah.
• 47:05
  He's like, So what are you doing in this town anyways?
• 47:07
  You know, I thought that this place would be too small for you
• 47:09
  after, you know, whatever you were doing beforehand.
• 47:12
  Yeah, what is Jodie's life? I.
• 47:14
  Don't know, maybe there's a musician because, you know, this
• 47:17
  whole thing is playing guitar here later on.
• 47:19
  But yeah, he's like, yeah, man, I'm not gonna be here long.
• 47:23
  I'm about to ship the boy, my brother over here off to the
• 47:27
  ants. He doesn't even say my brother,
• 47:28
  he says the kid. Yeah, the kid gonna give him
• 47:31
  over to the ants and I'm just gonna go and move out and pick
• 47:34
  it back up and cuts back to Mike meeting the grandma psychic and
• 47:41
  she's like, yeah, he's gonna leave you, but he's.
• 47:44
  Not gonna leave you. Yeah.
• 47:45
  So he'll take you with him. Yeah, no, yeah.
• 47:47
  Mike was telling her like, yeah, I think that was Mike telling
• 47:50
  her the story of her hearing that.
• 47:52
  She's like, don't worry, wherever he goes, you're gonna
• 47:55
  be going no matter what. So then she's like, here, put
• 47:59
  your finger in this box and a black box appears on the table.
• 48:04
  So he does, and it immediately locks itself on his finger and
• 48:08
  he starts to freak out. And then they just encouraged
• 48:11
  him to be calm. She's like, don't panic, don't
• 48:14
  fear. Fear is the killer.
• 48:15
  And he's like, but it hurts. She goes, it's all in your head
• 48:18
  now. She is gaslighting.
• 48:20
  A little, but she's also telling the truth because as soon as he
• 48:23
  calms down the box, let's go, and then he takes some money,
• 48:28
  it's like, oh, OK, thanks. And he puts it on top of the box
• 48:31
  and the box and money just vanished.
• 48:32
  See, that's why I'm thinking like they're like, they're the
• 48:36
  town, like psychics, like this is their business.
• 48:39
  Yeah, that's what I was saying too.
• 48:40
  Yeah, I think that they're psychics, yeah.
• 48:42
  They just never say. It's just a weird like Mystic
• 48:45
  grandma. Yeah, Mystic Grandma.
• 48:48
  OK so Jodie and Reggie are having a porch jam session and
• 48:53
  Jodie's hat is like perched atop his head in the manner that a
• 48:58
  hat does not normally fit ones head.
• 49:01
  I like this because it tells you everything you need to know
• 49:04
  about these two without saying anything it.
• 49:07
  Reggie pulls up in his ice cream truck.
• 49:10
  He sees Jodie out on the front porch just jamming.
• 49:12
  He's like, hold on, I've got my guitar too.
• 49:15
  It just goes over there. They just start playing
• 49:17
  together. This is going to be our nephew
• 49:19
  someday. Yeah, he put on an entire show
• 49:22
  for us yesterday. He complete with an impromptu
• 49:26
  mic stand, some Little Rock star moves laying on the floor,
• 49:31
  little whispers. That way you became iPhone for
• 49:35
  the next part of the song. Yeah, I think his is gonna be a
• 49:38
  little bit more. Yeah, less chill than this right
• 49:41
  here. This is a jam session.
• 49:42
  Yeah, that's not a jam session. Yeah, no, but I just, it'll be
• 49:47
  that same kind of like 5 always ready to pull out the
• 49:51
  instrument. Yeah, always ready to rock.
• 49:53
  The nephew in question is not even 3, by the way, just to put
• 49:58
  that in context for everyone. Yeah.
• 50:00
  OK, so they jam. That's basically the entirety of
• 50:04
  the scene here. Cuts back over to the psychics
• 50:07
  grandkids. She goes to the mansion.
• 50:10
  Yep. And she opens the door and then
• 50:14
  she screams. She screams.
• 50:15
  Yeah, that's basically it. That's it.
• 50:17
  That's the end of her. That's it.
• 50:18
  That is the last. We get no resolution on her.
• 50:22
  So we cut over to Mike, who is now watching Jody pick up a girl
• 50:26
  at the bar. Dude, OK, look, I get his.
• 50:30
  I guess he's following his brother.
• 50:32
  Do none of the other adults around ever go?
• 50:36
  This kid's kind of a creep. No, I don't think anybody's
• 50:41
  really paying any attention at all, really.
• 50:44
  It's it's just wild because he's just like perched at the bar
• 50:47
  window. Yeah, he is.
• 50:49
  Yeah. I don't know, maybe it's like so
• 50:50
  common that like they just don't even recognize it anymore.
• 50:53
  He like he looks like Zoe when we're late to feed her and she's
• 50:56
  perched in the front window just staring.
• 50:58
  But yeah, I think it's just everybody's like it's a normal
• 51:01
  thing. Like Jodie even like pretends
• 51:02
  like he doesn't see him all the time.
• 51:03
  He's like, I know you're there, Mike.
• 51:06
  So he's getting he's picking up the woman from the bar that.
• 51:10
  I think the woman is picking him picking him up cuz that woman is
• 51:13
  actually Angus Scrim. It's the woman from the opening
• 51:16
  that killed the guy. So they get out of there and
• 51:20
  they head over to the cemetery. Mike follows.
• 51:22
  Where I wrote that they get busy getting busy and Mike doesn't
• 51:26
  look away fast enough. I'm gonna say what?
• 51:29
  Are you talking about? Like his brother's pants are
• 51:32
  off. He definitely saw Jody's butt
• 51:34
  hole. He doesn't look away at all,
• 51:36
  doesn't he? He watches the entire.
• 51:37
  That's what I'm saying, He should have looked away.
• 51:40
  He saw them titties and he said whoa, that was the part that he
• 51:45
  was focused on. I'm sure he saw the titties, but
• 51:47
  I'm sure he also saw his brother's balls.
• 51:49
  But he does run screaming because one of the minions
• 51:54
  suddenly appeared and Jody is like, oh man, what is up?
• 51:58
  So he chases him and he goes, MMMM, you got to stop this here,
• 52:10
  take the keys, drive back to the house, have a couple brews.
• 52:13
  I will come talk about this after I've gotten off.
• 52:19
  Yeah, more or less. And Mike's like, OK, cool, but
• 52:21
  watch out because there's like a little guy out there that Mike
• 52:23
  Kewing. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 52:24
  warbling. I get there.
• 52:25
  Yeah, yeah, strange warbling. And Mike's like, no, it's just
• 52:28
  warbling. Yeah, which caption did you get?
• 52:34
  But when he gets back, the woman's gone, so that ruined his
• 52:36
  time. Meanwhile, back at home, Mike is
• 52:41
  dreaming of being in the cemetery and surrounded by the
• 52:44
  tall boy. That's one of the best shots.
• 52:47
  It is terrifying, actually. It's really cool because he's
• 52:50
  he's in there and he's like having a dream.
• 52:51
  He's in his bed so and it just teleports to his bed being in
• 52:56
  the cemetery and then a bunch of people reach out from the ground
• 53:00
  and the tall man is just standing above him.
• 53:02
  And then the next day he's about town, he's getting his little
• 53:04
  ice cream cone. He's like, that sure was a weird
• 53:06
  dream. And he looks over and the tall
• 53:09
  boy makes eye contact with him. Yeah, this is see this movie.
• 53:14
  It just like jumps from here to here without without any
• 53:17
  reasoning it it. It kind of is jarring with how
• 53:21
  it is. Yeah, because then we cut to
• 53:25
  Mike working on the car in the garage and he's like hearing
• 53:29
  sounds and instead of getting out from under the car, he lets
• 53:33
  the Jack get knocked out for it. And I'm not saying like.
• 53:36
  Victim when he let the jacket. He was under the car for like 30
• 53:40
  seconds while they were shuffling around.
• 53:42
  He could have scooched out. Yeah, I guess, Yeah.
• 53:45
  Either way, Yeah, the jacket falls out.
• 53:47
  Yeah, go on. What were you saying?
• 53:49
  Well, then he sees feet and he hits it with the wrench and it's
• 53:52
  Jody. No, they said.
• 53:53
  Here's the thing. I thought you were going to
• 53:55
  break something down for a say. No, because you said I was
• 53:57
  victim blaming and I was like, he could have scooched out from
• 53:59
  under there. Yeah.
• 54:01
  That's what I was trying. To say yeah, I guess so, yeah.
• 54:04
  So yeah, it like lands on top of him.
• 54:07
  It does not kill him. Surprisingly, he's.
• 54:09
  A tiny boy. Yeah, he's, he's good.
• 54:12
  Jodi's not concerned enough about this.
• 54:14
  Yeah, Jodi's like, why did you hit my foot?
• 54:17
  And Mike's like, why did you let a car fall on me?
• 54:20
  And I'm like, OK, well, we'll just call it even.
• 54:22
  Mike puts a knife in like a leg strap, and then his pants are
• 54:27
  just like a little bit too tight.
• 54:28
  Like he has to fight to get them over top of the knife.
• 54:31
  So I feel like it's not going to be good for him in an emergency.
• 54:34
  It's just like port planning, you know, he goes into the
• 54:38
  cemetery and then he like, he like climbs over the to get into
• 54:42
  it and he breaks into the mausoleum and he sees a man meet
• 54:50
  with the tall man. It's the caretaker, is what he's
• 54:54
  credited. As okay.
• 54:56
  Yeah, they don't give any explanation for who this is.
• 54:59
  No, he's just a guy there. Yeah.
• 55:02
  And then he is attacked by an orb and so he goes running and
• 55:07
  then when he's escaped the orb he is attacked by the caretaker
• 55:11
  and Mike bites him and gets away just in time for the orb to
• 55:15
  like. Yeah, I guess it's a little
• 55:17
  prongs that they deploy and then it gets right in his forehead.
• 55:21
  And honestly, the effect for that was pretty well done.
• 55:25
  It starts drilling right in his forehead and then boy, I just
• 55:28
  start shooting at. The other end, it's nasty.
• 55:30
  Yeah, it's a little cool effect. I like.
• 55:32
  It then the tallman is chasing after Mike and as he like runs
• 55:37
  through the door, Mike slams the door and the tallman's fingers
• 55:41
  get like cut off. He put a knife, He takes his
• 55:45
  knife. Yeah, handy dandy knife, which
• 55:47
  actually was good in an emergency situation.
• 55:49
  And he cuts off the fingers. And then he runs out and is
• 55:55
  chased by some of the minions. And then sometime in the
• 56:00
  morning, Jody finds Mike asleep on the stairs with a shotgun.
• 56:03
  And he's also got, like, a little trinket box that's
• 56:07
  jiggling. And it's jiggling because it's
• 56:09
  got the tall man's fingers. Yeah, they're alive.
• 56:14
  Yeah. Yeah, and my Jody's like, you
• 56:18
  know what? Yeah.
• 56:21
  All right. He's like, all right, I believe
• 56:22
  you. Yeah, he was like that.
• 56:24
  That is messed up. So let's go to the cops.
• 56:28
  Except when they are going to do that, the bug, because the
• 56:33
  finger becomes a bug and it's like a bagel beetle.
• 56:37
  And it's proportionally similar to the beetles in Animal
• 56:41
  Crossing. Yeah.
• 56:43
  So they take like a sack and. Yeah, cuz it like attacks.
• 56:47
  It attacks Mike and it's like a denim shirt.
• 56:51
  I think that he like pushes over it and then they shove it into
• 56:55
  the garbage disposal and you know, they're like out of breath
• 57:00
  and Reggie pops and he's like, hey, who wants to help me sell
• 57:03
  some ice cream? Kids are coming out of Sunday
• 57:05
  school. We're going to be busy.
• 57:07
  Whoa, what is wrong with you guys?
• 57:09
  And then the bug flies out of the garbage disposal and
• 57:11
  Reggie's like, okay, you. Know if I could have made one
• 57:14
  adjustment to this movie I would like to have like the sitcom
• 57:18
  applause track play anytime Reggie enters the scene.
• 57:21
  Like Kramer. Yeah, exactly.
• 57:23
  Yeah. Everybody's whistling and clap
• 57:24
  and then stuff like yeah, Reggie, yeah.
• 57:27
  Yeah, yeah. And, like, they have to, like,
• 57:32
  pause for a minute and wait for the pause to die down.
• 57:35
  And he, like, awkwardly picks the scene back up.
• 57:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:38
  So Jody gives Mike a gun and then a safety lesson that I
• 57:42
  think more people need to understand with guns, that you
• 57:46
  don't point a gun at somebody unless you intend to shoot them,
• 57:50
  and you don't shoot somebody unless you intend to kill them.
• 57:53
  Guns are change your wrists. Like we said, no warning shots.
• 57:59
  Warning shots are bullshit. They are.
• 58:02
  Yeah. Both in the fact that, like, if
• 58:06
  somebody is coming in to do you harm, they're like, ready to do
• 58:09
  you harm. Also, like a warning shot could
• 58:12
  so easily hit like a random unassociated person.
• 58:17
  Yeah. So the point is, he's going to
• 58:19
  stay home and be armed in case anything happens.
• 58:22
  Well, that's that's Jodie's plan.
• 58:25
  Well, yeah. Oh, OK, hold on.
• 58:27
  Meanwhile, Jodie is going to the the place the building.
• 58:32
  I was calling it a Funeral Home. The Funeral Home and he's going
• 58:36
  to go investigate everything himself and check out the things
• 58:38
  that Mike was telling him. Yeah, he climbs in the same
• 58:41
  busted window that Mike had busted out for him before, and
• 58:45
  he immediately gets attacked and he shoots the minion that
• 58:50
  attacked him and runs out. I can't read this note.
• 58:54
  He should. That car pulls up with Mike
• 58:56
  driving. His car pulls up with Mike
• 58:58
  driving. Yeah, OK.
• 59:00
  Yeah. So, Mike?
• 59:01
  Mike pulls up with the car. He he thinks that it might be
• 59:04
  somebody there that's trying to get him because, you know,
• 59:06
  obviously Mike wasn't supposed to be there and he took the car.
• 59:09
  So Mike followed him somehow and got there that fast.
• 59:12
  So he hops in the car with Mike and they start to drive off.
• 59:15
  Meanwhile, as they're driving away, they're being chased by a
• 59:17
  car that has no driver. So in order to deal with that.
• 59:23
  They crash. Well Jodie gets the shotgun from
• 59:27
  Mike and he starts shooting at it.
• 59:29
  He shoots out the ending and then they crash.
• 59:32
  Yeah, and when they get to the car, they find one of the little
• 59:36
  minions in the car, and it's got the face of Tommy.
• 59:41
  It's Tommy. So they're like, oh, shit, OK,
• 59:44
  well, we need to get this thing. We need to escort it back
• 59:47
  somewhere. And they're like, oh, let's get
• 59:48
  Reggie. He's got an ice cream truck.
• 59:51
  Yeah, it's. Perfect for escorting bodies.
• 59:53
  Raise the body I do like Reggie's practical like question
• 59:56
  of like is this going to infect my ice cream looks like a.
• 1:00:00
  Pause for a second and they're like Nah, like come on, Reggie,
• 1:00:04
  this thing is like got blue or yellow goop going left and
• 1:00:08
  right. Every between just call it.
• 1:00:10
  Call it a little like butterscotch topping, it's fine.
• 1:00:13
  It's going to be exactly like the ice cream and ice cream man.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:00:17
  Well, eyeball here and there never hurt anyone.
• 1:00:19
  No. OK, so then they get back to the
• 1:00:24
  house. Myrtle's there.
• 1:00:25
  Hey, Myrtle. Myrtle's there.
• 1:00:28
  Then they try to figure out, like, what it is that they're
• 1:00:30
  gonna do. They're just like, this is so
• 1:00:32
  weird, and who's gonna believe us?
• 1:00:34
  And Mike is worried about their parents bodies.
• 1:00:38
  And Jody is not ready to have that conversation.
• 1:00:41
  He's like, I want Mike to be safe.
• 1:00:43
  So Reggie, take him to Sally's antique shop.
• 1:00:46
  Sue is also there. We learned her name after, she
• 1:00:48
  said. Is that the girl?
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, there's. The grandma.
• 1:00:54
  No. OK, whatever.
• 1:00:56
  She looked a lot like her. I think that Don and Coscarelli
• 1:01:01
  only hired blonde women. Possibly, yeah.
• 1:01:05
  That seems to be the case. So yeah, he's gonna, Reggie's
• 1:01:09
  gonna drop him off at the antique store and come back to
• 1:01:11
  help Jody tackle at the Tommy situation.
• 1:01:14
  And while he's at the antique store, he's looking through some
• 1:01:17
  old photos and he finds a very old photo a la it.
• 1:01:22
  Yeah, I got it vibes from. This which?
• 1:01:24
  Means it got this fantasm. You know what?
• 1:01:29
  And not just further ties our connection cuz after watching
• 1:01:32
  this, we watched Maximum OverDrive on Friday night.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah. So Jodie is like back at the
• 1:01:39
  house, he falls asleep and he also has a dream of the tall man
• 1:01:44
  like Mike did before. Yeah, and he's like, dreaming
• 1:01:48
  that he's being attacked. Meanwhile, Mike is freaking out.
• 1:01:51
  He says he's gotta be taken back.
• 1:01:54
  And so while they're driving back, Mike and Sally find
• 1:01:58
  Reggie's truck overturned on the side of the road.
• 1:02:00
  And the back of it is unlocked. And Tommy's body is gone.
• 1:02:05
  And Mike is like, we need to, yeah.
• 1:02:07
  And so is Reggie's. And Mike is like, we need to
• 1:02:09
  leave now. And then a minion attacks and
• 1:02:12
  Mike gets thrown out the back of the car.
• 1:02:14
  Dude, they like reach in, they bust out the back window and
• 1:02:17
  drag him out of the back. Meanwhile, everybody just
• 1:02:20
  drives. Off He doesn't get dragged out
• 1:02:22
  the back, he gets tossed out like Uncle Phil tossing out
• 1:02:26
  Jeff. DJ Jazzy Jeff.
• 1:02:28
  Yeah. So yeah, he's just left behind.
• 1:02:32
  Mike runs back home and makes it back to Jodie and tells him what
• 1:02:36
  happens. So Jodie's like, all right, I'm
• 1:02:39
  going to go out there and look for Reggie myself.
• 1:02:41
  I'm going to. You're not coming with me, Mike.
• 1:02:43
  So he takes Mike, puts him in his bedroom, grounds him, puts a
• 1:02:47
  screwdriver in the door. That way he can't get out.
• 1:02:50
  I wonder how many times he's done this to his old.
• 1:02:52
  Brother, right, like like you were real quick.
• 1:02:55
  You knew exactly where to wedge it and Mike is sitting there and
• 1:03:00
  he's got 1 shotgun shell. He puts a thumbtack in it and
• 1:03:03
  then tapes it to a hammer. Pro tip, if you're going to lock
• 1:03:07
  a child in a room against their will, maybe don't leave them
• 1:03:10
  lots of weapons. Don't give them a shotgun.
• 1:03:12
  Shell. I also feel like he didn't need
• 1:03:14
  the shotgun shell because these are very much hollow doors.
• 1:03:17
  Like he could have just like, burst through it on his own
• 1:03:20
  anyway. I like the imagination that went
• 1:03:22
  into it. I do appreciate that.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah. I'm just saying it could have
• 1:03:25
  been. Boring.
• 1:03:26
  Like, oh, I've got this hammer, I'll just bust out.
• 1:03:28
  No, I'm going to take a shotgun show.
• 1:03:30
  I'm going to tape it to a hammer.
• 1:03:32
  I'm going to bust my fucking way out of here.
• 1:03:34
  You know what? I'm never going to see the
• 1:03:36
  Darrell Isaacs the Hammer commercials the same way again
• 1:03:38
  because they could be so much cooler.
• 1:03:40
  Bang, bang, I'm the hammer. That's that.
• 1:03:44
  Tune out all this commercial thing.
• 1:03:46
  That's all I hear all over it again.
• 1:03:49
  OK, so he is now out. You know, we didn't talk about
• 1:03:55
  one thing though. When Mike ran home, Jody was
• 1:03:58
  like what the fuck is wrong with you?
• 1:03:59
  And Mike just like, grabs his beer and like, chugs it before
• 1:04:02
  explaining what happened. Yeah, they clearly he's got like
• 1:04:07
  a you're 13 year old enough to do everything.
• 1:04:09
  Yeah, he's like, I don't understand childhood
• 1:04:12
  development. I wasn't supposed to be raising
• 1:04:13
  you. Really.
• 1:04:14
  He's. Kind of like he's to him, like
• 1:04:16
  13 is the new 18. He's like, yeah, kids, 13 now he
• 1:04:19
  can go out on his own and I'm gonna go be a rock star.
• 1:04:21
  Yeah, Reggie. With Reggie.
• 1:04:24
  Yeah, big ass. All right, so Mike is going to
• 1:04:29
  go out and chase after Jodie, but the tall man's at the front
• 1:04:32
  door. Yeah, and he just like smashes
• 1:04:34
  right through that window and then grabs him and cuz we've
• 1:04:38
  established he's super strong. He just like, tosses him in the
• 1:04:41
  hearse. He's super strong, but all that
• 1:04:43
  strength must be in his arms because he is slow.
• 1:04:46
  He gets, he gets outranned by this little kid.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah. So anyways, yeah, he's in the
• 1:04:50
  hearse. And again, nobody checking this
• 1:04:53
  kid for weaponry, so he takes the gun and shoots out the back
• 1:04:57
  of the window. And once again flashed through
• 1:05:00
  the window. Yeah, I've.
• 1:05:01
  Done this shit before. Yeah, and the car crashes.
• 1:05:03
  So, Joey. Explodes.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah, well, he left one of his thumbtack shotgun shells in the
• 1:05:10
  back. Yeah, he had, like the whole,
• 1:05:11
  like, band of ammo. Yeah.
• 1:05:14
  Yeah, Can you imagine this kid teaming up with Kevin McAllister
• 1:05:17
  and Home Alone? I can't I I would like for that
• 1:05:21
  to. Happen OK Jody's at the Funeral
• 1:05:25
  Home and he's being he's trying to look for his parents bodies
• 1:05:28
  in the caskets and he is attacked by a flying orb.
• 1:05:31
  Mike arrives and he finds that finds their dad's coffin in the
• 1:05:36
  middle of the floor. He doesn't see Jody anywhere,
• 1:05:38
  but he also doesn't see his dad in the coffin, so he's like
• 1:05:41
  panicking about that. Right when he is like.
• 1:05:45
  Attacked by another orb, Jodie shoots the orb.
• 1:05:49
  Reggie, he says he found. Oh, he found Sally and Sue and
• 1:05:57
  some other women and released them.
• 1:05:59
  Which must have been the daughter.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah. I I assume they, I like how he
• 1:06:03
  just kind of hand waves everything away.
• 1:06:04
  He's like, yeah, there's this creepy old dude and I I was
• 1:06:07
  hiding at a casket. Yeah.
• 1:06:08
  It's like he like was just like describing a wild night.
• 1:06:11
  Like, oh man, you. Should have been there.
• 1:06:13
  I was so wasted, man. At one point I was in a casket.
• 1:06:16
  There were women in a room. I love them out.
• 1:06:18
  Yeah. Freedom, you know, still dressed
• 1:06:22
  in my ice cream. Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Suit. Still in very white pants.
• 1:06:27
  How weird is that, right? Yeah.
• 1:06:30
  So they find a brown, they enter the room and there's a bunch of
• 1:06:33
  barrels along the wall. And guess what?
• 1:06:34
  Those barrels have dwarfs. Tiny minions.
• 1:06:37
  Yeah, so there's these two poles that are just vibrating inside
• 1:06:42
  the room, too. And it was cool before, because
• 1:06:46
  when we had that little jam session of Reggie and Jody, we
• 1:06:50
  saw Reggie bust out his little guitar tuner, which looks
• 1:06:53
  exactly. Like this?
• 1:06:54
  Yeah, so he to him, he sees everything as instruments
• 1:06:58
  apparently. So he's gonna make a move on
• 1:07:01
  that here in a minute. But meanwhile Mike is curious so
• 1:07:05
  he like puts his hand in between the two poles and it just
• 1:07:09
  vanishes. So he decides to peek his head
• 1:07:12
  in there and what happens as he gets sucked in, starts falling
• 1:07:16
  and he sees all of the little minion slaves on like a planet.
• 1:07:22
  Yeah, it's like a different planet or dimension or
• 1:07:24
  something. Yeah, they're like in Hawaiian,
• 1:07:27
  and it's not really clear what's going on, but Reggie and Jodi
• 1:07:32
  reach in and pull him out, and he's come to the conclusion that
• 1:07:35
  it's slaves. Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  And that the gravity from the planet is crushing them and
• 1:07:40
  making them tiny. I thought it was that they had
• 1:07:44
  to be made to be tiny because the gravity on the planet was so
• 1:07:49
  high. It could be.
• 1:07:51
  I thought that that's where they were being turned into.
• 1:07:54
  See, I thought they were being turned tiny in the barrels.
• 1:07:58
  I thought that they were just storing the finished product in
• 1:08:01
  the barrels. I don't fucking know, you're
• 1:08:02
  probably right. You're sounds like it makes a.
• 1:08:04
  Lot more sense in mind because I'm picturing that episode of
• 1:08:07
  Futurama where the episode is called Branigan Begin Again,
• 1:08:12
  where ZAP works for the Planet Express and they go to the
• 1:08:15
  planet with the really high gravity and they go like Bender
• 1:08:19
  gets squished. Yeah, that's what I'm like
• 1:08:22
  picturing. See, that's what I was thinking
• 1:08:24
  too. I go, let's take them to there
• 1:08:25
  and let's get make. Them, yeah, but they just like
• 1:08:26
  pre squished them so that way they didn't have to worry about
• 1:08:28
  the squishing. Process.
• 1:08:29
  You guys are already squished. Don't worry about it.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. Don't have to worry about your
• 1:08:32
  bone, itis. This isn't funny that they like
• 1:08:36
  keep their normal face, their head, but like their body, their
• 1:08:40
  torso is what's completely changed.
• 1:08:45
  See we always see them in robes in like quotes.
• 1:08:48
  We always see what do you all look like with your clothes off?
• 1:08:52
  Well, actually never mind. I don't want to see a naked menu
• 1:08:55
  that. Was a That was a weird question.
• 1:08:58
  It was a weird sentence that just came out of your mouth.
• 1:09:00
  Well, this movie started with the tall man fucking his prey
• 1:09:04
  and then turning old. So yeah, I mean, he's a Black
• 1:09:08
  Widow. Yeah, I guess that's exactly it.
• 1:09:12
  All right, so this is where the movie gets kind of weird and
• 1:09:16
  disjointed again, so. This is where it gets weird and
• 1:09:20
  disjointed. It gets really weird and
• 1:09:22
  disjointed right here. So the lights turn out, Jodie
• 1:09:26
  disappears, Mike disappears, Reggie remains in the room.
• 1:09:31
  Lights come back on. Reggie sees the poles vibrating
• 1:09:34
  and he sees them as a guitar tuner.
• 1:09:37
  So he's like, I'm going to stop the vibration and puts his hands
• 1:09:41
  on both of them. And then doing that causes some
• 1:09:45
  kind of like. It makes like the portal open.
• 1:09:48
  It causes it to like implode. I don't even know.
• 1:09:53
  I guess it's like it's sucking everything in.
• 1:09:56
  Yeah. And so it starts to suck him in,
• 1:09:59
  but he crawls his way out. Well, and that's what like, I
• 1:10:01
  think the portal was like open with this because of the
• 1:10:04
  difference in gravity. It was like pulling them in.
• 1:10:09
  But Reggie is super strong because of all that ice cream
• 1:10:11
  flinging. Yeah, I can't wait.
• 1:10:13
  He actually crawled his way out of there because it was like
• 1:10:15
  giant barrels of dwarves were being just like falling off the
• 1:10:20
  shelves. Yeah, but the problem is he
• 1:10:23
  climbs out, runs out of the building and then gets stabbed
• 1:10:26
  by a tall woman. Yeah, a tall woman man.
• 1:10:31
  And it's so it's like cutting back and forth, like Jody is
• 1:10:35
  randomly outside hollering for Mike.
• 1:10:37
  Mike is randomly outside hollering for Jody.
• 1:10:40
  Who's hollering for Reggie? Nobody.
• 1:10:43
  Until they look over there and they see Reggie's been stabbed.
• 1:10:47
  I'm like, oh shit, Reggie's dead.
• 1:10:49
  Not nobody shot it for Reggie. Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  So yeah. And then the Funeral Home goes.
• 1:10:56
  Yeah, and they like they drive away just in time.
• 1:10:59
  Yeah. And Jody was like, OK, So what
• 1:11:01
  we need to do is we need to lure the tall man over to the
• 1:11:04
  abandoned mines that we've definitely talked about.
• 1:11:06
  And yeah. You know, the abandoned mines,
• 1:11:08
  the one that's very the key to this, Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Right here. Very important that we've
• 1:11:11
  referenced many times. Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  So we're gonna go to the abandoned mines that we
• 1:11:16
  definitely set up for later, and we're gonna just remove the
• 1:11:20
  warning signs and that'll surely trick him.
• 1:11:23
  And that'll get him, then we will show.
• 1:11:27
  It is so fucking Scooby-doo and the insane thing is that it
• 1:11:30
  works. It does.
• 1:11:32
  It does. So yeah, Mike stays behind while
• 1:11:37
  Jody goes to the mine shaft that we all know and love.
• 1:11:39
  Yeah, and that we've spent a majority of the movie talking
• 1:11:42
  about. Yeah, and I guess while he's
• 1:11:47
  there, the tall man shows back up at the house and chases Mike
• 1:11:51
  again. So they chase throughout town.
• 1:11:55
  But it's almost so perfect that I'm like, was this part of the
• 1:11:57
  plan that we just didn't hear about?
• 1:12:00
  Apparently, because as he shows up at the maybe, they're like
• 1:12:04
  talking really loud like that. They saw the tall man like like
• 1:12:07
  Mike peeking through the window of the bar.
• 1:12:11
  He's like, all right, So what? We're going to do is.
• 1:12:16
  Yeah. So yeah, they chased there and
• 1:12:19
  he runs over a little booby trap that Jody sat, which causes him
• 1:12:25
  to fall into the ground, which causes a bunch of boulders to
• 1:12:28
  fall. And if you're if you're
• 1:12:30
  picturing something, I can to say Scooby-doo or Looney Tunes,
• 1:12:36
  wherein it is a hole in the ground with a canvas tarp
• 1:12:42
  explicitly thrown over top of it and a handful of branches to
• 1:12:47
  camouflage it, yeah, congratulations.
• 1:12:50
  That is exactly how they hit it. That's exactly how it is.
• 1:12:54
  And I like it. Like, they seal him and he,
• 1:12:57
  like, falls in there and like, all the boulders fall on him.
• 1:13:00
  Mike hooks up at the top of the hill, and Jody just looks up
• 1:13:02
  there and like, has a triumphant, like, old fist pump.
• 1:13:05
  And then it's like, all right, everything's OK.
• 1:13:08
  So then we get back to the house.
• 1:13:09
  Mike wakes up in a panic because he's like, I'm just so terrified
• 1:13:14
  that those rocks didn't hold him.
• 1:13:15
  And he's telling Reggie about it.
• 1:13:17
  And we're like, but wait, why is Reggie here?
• 1:13:18
  We saw Reggie died. Why is Reggie here and why is he
• 1:13:21
  wearing not his ice cream outfit?
• 1:13:24
  Yeah, right. At this point he is wearing the
• 1:13:26
  ice cream outfit for so much of the movie that it feels weird to
• 1:13:30
  not see him in it. That's how you know that this is
• 1:13:32
  real, man. I'm wearing like casual.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah, he's like I am in my Pacific Northwest rocker chic.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah, so basically Reggie's like, hey man, you're just
• 1:13:43
  having a bad nightmare. You're having a hard time
• 1:13:46
  processing. Jodie's death and where y'all
• 1:13:50
  go? I like how like if he knew this,
• 1:13:56
  I like that he explains it like you're just having a hard time,
• 1:13:59
  you know, experiencing Jodie's death.
• 1:14:01
  You know he died in a car crash. Yeah, so we see a flash to his
• 1:14:06
  grave. So their parents supposedly died
• 1:14:09
  in 77. He died in 78 in a car crash.
• 1:14:13
  In two. Years.
• 1:14:14
  He's lost his entire family and now Reggie is just taking care
• 1:14:18
  of him in between driving his ice cream truck.
• 1:14:20
  Yeah, that's not cool. That's not what I was going to
• 1:14:22
  say. But the really cool thing is, I
• 1:14:25
  don't know if this is intentional, but I feel like
• 1:14:28
  something that kind of gives more credit to that being a
• 1:14:31
  dream is you get a shot of the grave in the tombstones.
• 1:14:36
  We've been seeing the graveyard and the tombstones of that place
• 1:14:39
  the entire time, and they're all like the classic tombstones that
• 1:14:41
  are above ground. All of the tombstones in the
• 1:14:43
  graveyard of Jodie's are flat, like the little plaques there.
• 1:14:47
  Yeah. So it seemed like, oh, that was
• 1:14:50
  all actually in this the entire time.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah, because they were much more like the archetype of what
• 1:14:55
  you. Yeah, that's why he would
• 1:14:57
  imagine. Yeah, just like a normal, like,
• 1:14:59
  stereotypical gravestone. It's cool.
• 1:15:02
  It's a nice little touch. But anyways, like, Jody's like,
• 1:15:04
  Reggie's just like, look, man, I'm going to take care of you.
• 1:15:08
  I know I'll never be as good as Jody, but I'm going to do my
• 1:15:11
  best. And you know, how about we just,
• 1:15:13
  like, we pack up and we hit the road for a few weeks and Mike's
• 1:15:16
  like, oh, where are we going to go?
• 1:15:17
  He's like, I don't know, go get your stuff.
• 1:15:20
  And then he, like, grabs his guitar and starts playing it.
• 1:15:22
  And Mike's like, OK. And Mike goes up and he grabs
• 1:15:25
  his little canvas drawstring bag, and when he closes the door
• 1:15:30
  in his bedroom, he's got a little mirror.
• 1:15:33
  Yep. And the tall boy is in there.
• 1:15:35
  And he goes, boy. Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  And then the minions grab him from the window and pull him out
• 1:15:42
  of the house, and that's how that goes.
• 1:15:47
  So if you want to know something, the movie picks up
• 1:15:50
  immediately right there. And fantastic, too.
• 1:15:52
  I've seen like the opening 10 to 15 minutes of that movie, so
• 1:15:56
  yeah. That's.
• 1:15:58
  So this is all actually real here.
• 1:16:00
  So we're gonna have questions answered.
• 1:16:02
  Maybe. Yes.
• 1:16:03
  OK, that's good to know. I still think this is a very
• 1:16:08
  silly movie. Yes.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah. But it's fun.
• 1:16:13
  I feel like 6.75 is the right one for this.
• 1:16:17
  I am very excited to explore the rest of the franchise because I
• 1:16:20
  think this feels like one of those that it's so strange that
• 1:16:23
  it's either going to get much better or much worse to the
• 1:16:26
  point that it's like really fun how much worse it is.
• 1:16:28
  So I'm here for the ride. It seems to have a pretty good
• 1:16:32
  falling. People seem to really like the
• 1:16:35
  whole franchise. I think it benefits having the
• 1:16:38
  core stay throughout the entire duration of the.
• 1:16:42
  Entire. Series which I think that's
• 1:16:44
  really cool. I think and those are some of
• 1:16:47
  the things that we've talked about with like some of the
• 1:16:49
  strongest franchises on this show is having like that core
• 1:16:53
  element that sticks with it because you look at like, you
• 1:16:56
  know, we're covering Child's play right now and we've got so
• 1:16:59
  many of the same people that stick with it throughout, right?
• 1:17:02
  Don Mancini is involved in every single one of them.
• 1:17:05
  When we covered this Saw franchise, it's a lot of the
• 1:17:11
  same people behind the scenes, like we've got the same editor
• 1:17:13
  throughout, like the entire thing.
• 1:17:15
  We've got all the same special effects people throughout most
• 1:17:19
  of it the. Same composer.
• 1:17:21
  It's a lot of the same people sometimes, which in different
• 1:17:24
  roles, but a lot of the core remains the same.
• 1:17:27
  Same with like the screen movies up until you know, unfortunately
• 1:17:31
  the death of Wes Craven, which that forced to change in some
• 1:17:35
  things, but it I think having that consistency helps keep a
• 1:17:41
  more cohesive vision and storyline.
• 1:17:44
  I think so too. Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  I'm gonna keep mine at 7 1/2 also.
• 1:17:47
  OK, so what's your change? I guess like I really just wanna
• 1:17:53
  see like I want to, I want to understand more of why he's
• 1:18:00
  picking certain people and like why they have to be lured
• 1:18:03
  specifically to the cemetery. Like I get his thing of like I'm
• 1:18:06
  going to kidnap Mike and take him there because like he's
• 1:18:09
  meddling and he wants to stop him.
• 1:18:11
  That makes sense to me without it being spoon fed but like.
• 1:18:14
  We don't know the process I guess.
• 1:18:16
  Yeah, like it's just, it's confusing.
• 1:18:19
  Yeah, that's the only thing that you would change.
• 1:18:22
  Like that's the biggest thing I would change, OK.
• 1:18:25
  What would Talia think? Talia was restless throughout
• 1:18:29
  this whole movie. Talia is somebody that she she
• 1:18:33
  wants to understand the movie like she doesn't like.
• 1:18:38
  She doesn't like the dream narrative.
• 1:18:40
  Talia was the person that was like 5 minutes since this movie
• 1:18:44
  was like what's happening? I'm confused.
• 1:18:45
  And then just like makes it a problem for everybody else
• 1:18:47
  around here because she was just like on her.
• 1:18:51
  Yeah, the entire time she, she really was like, I even took
• 1:18:55
  video of it at one point because she just wouldn't stop.
• 1:18:59
  So she she was not, she was not loving this.
• 1:19:03
  I think she is unfortunately going to give it a four.
• 1:19:06
  OK. I think that's fair.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah, who's who's Zoe's ultimate warrior?
• 1:19:12
  That's a tough one. I think, hear me out, I think
• 1:19:17
  it's Reggie. OK.
• 1:19:20
  He drives an ice cream truck, first of all.
• 1:19:24
  Second of all, always ready to join a jam session.
• 1:19:27
  You know, is always all about the music.
• 1:19:28
  And when we're singing, she comes running, reaches out and
• 1:19:32
  touches the tuning fork prongs. That's true.
• 1:19:35
  She's always fucking with shit, sometimes to catastrophic
• 1:19:39
  results. I like that.
• 1:19:41
  I was going to say Mike, because Mike is the youngest but is
• 1:19:46
  still probably the most competent.
• 1:19:49
  Yeah, of them all. She's the youngest here and I,
• 1:19:52
  she's the most active when it comes to killing things.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah, I like the Reggie one better, though.
• 1:19:58
  I think that's more fitting for her.
• 1:20:00
  All right, now here's the tricky question for us.
• 1:20:04
  Who do you relate to? I related a lot to that scene of
• 1:20:11
  Reggie and Jody when they were just jamming on the front porch,
• 1:20:15
  because I've done that with friends before.
• 1:20:18
  You just pull up and you just, like, start playing guitar, OK?
• 1:20:21
  I don't know which one it would be, though.
• 1:20:24
  I thought, you know, I'll say Jody, because my guitar teacher
• 1:20:31
  looked exactly like Reggie. Also, you have the same guitar.
• 1:20:35
  I do have the same guitar. Yeah, also you wear hats.
• 1:20:39
  Not that type of hat. Also also you don't have a
• 1:20:42
  tuning fork. I do have a tuner but.
• 1:20:45
  You don't have a tuning fork. No dude, that's old school.
• 1:20:48
  I know. He's going to do that anymore.
• 1:20:50
  Reggie, which is? Why?
• 1:20:51
  I think he still does it in the twenty 20s.
• 1:20:53
  Yes, we'll ask him. He's going to be here in a few
• 1:20:56
  weeks. Reggie, do you have your tuning
• 1:20:59
  fork with you always? I would love it if he, like
• 1:21:02
  whipped it out and was like, yeah.
• 1:21:04
  I was like, well, you and Jim, yes, fuck yeah, let's do it.
• 1:21:09
  Who'd you relate to? I guess I probably related to
• 1:21:18
  the bartender because he's just like sitting there trying to
• 1:21:21
  mind his own business. Like he's, he's just like, you
• 1:21:26
  know, the small town. I know everybody's business, but
• 1:21:29
  I'm not going to. I'm not going to snitch on
• 1:21:30
  anyone. Like that kid over there, I see
• 1:21:34
  him, he's peeking in here every single night whenever you're
• 1:21:36
  here. But that's clearly his brother,
• 1:21:38
  so he's not doing any harm. He's going through some heavy
• 1:21:42
  shit. He's 13.
• 1:21:43
  He's practically an adult. Yeah, if he came in, I'd give
• 1:21:47
  him a beer. I'm the house.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah, I like a lot of the main characters.
• 1:21:55
  I just like. Here's the thing too.
• 1:21:57
  I've said it before, if I was in a horror movie, I would not do
• 1:22:01
  well unless I was in a situation where I was like Jigsaw trap.
• 1:22:04
  You have to react to that type of thing.
• 1:22:06
  But like if there's if there is something to be investigated,
• 1:22:09
  I'm staying out of that shit. I don't want to find out the
• 1:22:13
  scary thing. I want to avoid the scary thing.
• 1:22:16
  You're just willing to live in that world.
• 1:22:18
  Yeah, yeah, the world is fucking scary already, man.
• 1:22:22
  OK, so there's a new level of war.
• 1:22:25
  Whatever. Same shit, different day.
• 1:22:27
  I guess it's true. Yeah, OK.
• 1:22:33
  So on that light note, we can do a tagline or dream sequel.
• 1:22:40
  Let's do a dream sequel first. Yeah, Talia was correct.
• 1:22:43
  We should do Dream sequel then tagline.
• 1:22:45
  Dream sequel I want I want it to be a road movie like a with
• 1:22:55
  Reggie and Mike. They're on the road.
• 1:22:57
  Do you always think that they're taking Reggie's personally owned
• 1:23:02
  vehicle or is it his ice cream truck?
• 1:23:04
  And like, that's how they're going to make money along the
• 1:23:06
  way They. Take an ice cream truck.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah, but they're making a pit stop at the Mortuary where
• 1:23:17
  Reggie doesn't understand why, but Mike's like, trust me on
• 1:23:20
  this. And they get Jody's body from
• 1:23:23
  there and put it in the ice cream truck to preserve it and,
• 1:23:28
  and. Reggie's like, is this going to
• 1:23:30
  infect my ice cream? And Mike's like, you've got to
• 1:23:33
  stop asking that question. And Reggie's like, I've never
• 1:23:35
  asked this question before. And he's like and another time
• 1:23:38
  you have. He doesn't say that.
• 1:23:41
  He just looks up the camera and, like, winks.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah, but like, he ends up like Jody.
• 1:23:48
  Jodie becomes alive again inside the ice cream.
• 1:23:50
  The ice cream brings them back. I don't know.
• 1:23:52
  Something does. But I wanted to be a road movie
• 1:23:54
  where Angus, the tall man is just chasing them on the road.
• 1:24:00
  They're trying to escape him. I'm picturing him like on foot
• 1:24:03
  though and like his legs are just so like he's just like
• 1:24:06
  poop. Poop like like 32 or T1000?
• 1:24:11
  Yeah. Just like or sprinting.
• 1:24:14
  Yeah. Start action.
• 1:24:17
  Yeah, yeah. All right.
• 1:24:20
  OK, now tagline. Balls to the wall.
• 1:24:26
  They're all having a ball in the afterlife.
• 1:24:33
  There's no ice cream in hell. I'm out.
• 1:24:41
  I'm trying to think of something that's not.
• 1:24:43
  I see my mind got hooked on the ball thing for a minute or two,
• 1:24:46
  and now I'm trying to get away from that because I thought that
• 1:24:48
  that was like taking too much energy.
• 1:24:52
  OK, the ball puns have been done.
• 1:24:55
  OK, although we can use one of yours there.
• 1:25:00
  I don't know. This is stupid.
• 1:25:01
  I'm back on the ball thing. Killer balls for your eyeballs.
• 1:25:08
  He's tall, he's got balls and he makes house calls.
• 1:25:18
  He makes house calls. He's tall, got balls, Makes
• 1:25:23
  house calls. He.
• 1:25:26
  Rides. Yeah, OK.
• 1:25:31
  OK. That's, that's good.
• 1:25:33
  That's as good as we're gonna. Get Yeah, I think we're
• 1:25:37
  emotionally tapped out at this point.
• 1:25:38
  I can't handle those. Yeah, good job, Talia.
• 1:25:43
  That was a good one for me. All right.
• 1:25:46
  So are we done with that part or are we ready to move on to
• 1:25:50
  reviews? We are.
• 1:25:51
  OK, so when it's in on IMDb, it's time.
• 1:25:54
  Why is this a classic? I finally saw a Phantasm, a film
• 1:25:57
  that is regarded as a classic. I could not for the life of me
• 1:26:00
  understand now. Anyone could love this film so
• 1:26:02
  much. The acting is terrible, the
• 1:26:04
  story makes no sense at all, and there seems to be a complete and
• 1:26:07
  total disregard for continuity from start to finish.
• 1:26:11
  And imagine my disappointment when I were in that the tall
• 1:26:14
  man, who was the least frightening horror villain ever,
• 1:26:17
  has just was just making people into dwarves to be slaves on his
• 1:26:21
  home planet. That's the dumbest thing I've
• 1:26:24
  ever heard. The special effects are decent,
• 1:26:26
  and the Chrome sphere drilling into that one guy's forehead was
• 1:26:30
  the only worthwhile thing in the entire movie.
• 1:26:32
  Oh my God, we put the fear in sphere.
• 1:26:35
  Perfect. OK.
• 1:26:41
  Let's see, where was I? Chromosphere Drilling.
• 1:26:44
  The chromosphere drilling into that one guy's forehead was the
• 1:26:46
  only worthwhile thing in the entire movie.
• 1:26:49
  Michael Baldwin looks like an ugly little girl with a speech
• 1:26:52
  problem, and everyone around him, especially the character of
• 1:26:55
  Jody, shows about as much emotion as a rock.
• 1:26:58
  Yeah, that was kind of. Hard, Really.
• 1:27:00
  Cruel man. This is an incredibly
• 1:27:02
  disappointing film. Many reviews on here say that
• 1:27:05
  once you get past the bad acting, worst script,
• 1:27:07
  nonsensical parts, lack of scares, lack of continuity like
• 1:27:10
  a dude, they don't say this. Come on.
• 1:27:13
  Except for one scene as yellow blood is Harley core, etcetera,
• 1:27:15
  etcetera. That is that it is a true
• 1:27:17
  classic. But really, once you get past
• 1:27:19
  all that, what's left? Dude, you just listed all the
• 1:27:21
  things you don't like. Nobody has said, dude, nobody's
• 1:27:24
  ever went into a movie like all right.
• 1:27:25
  Once you get like bad past all the bad parts and like the parts
• 1:27:29
  that you hate and like, you know, like the 120 minutes of it
• 1:27:33
  just not being fun, but like you get that one minute, man.
• 1:27:35
  And then, Oh my God, it's a classic.
• 1:27:37
  It feels like the meme of like once I lose weight and clear up
• 1:27:41
  my skin and get a better word and get my mental health
• 1:27:44
  together, it's over for you bitches.
• 1:27:45
  It feels like that, like. I I don't look man, you all saw
• 1:27:49
  credibility when you started attacking Michael's actor.
• 1:27:51
  Yeah, that's like fucking rude. Yeah, he's like an actual 13
• 1:27:55
  year old. Yeah, you started off like I, I
• 1:27:57
  understood where you were coming from right from the beginning
• 1:27:59
  there, because it is weirdly disjointed.
• 1:28:01
  It's it's hard to follow at times.
• 1:28:03
  It doesn't make a lot of sense. I could see it not being scary
• 1:28:06
  for some people. But yeah, I just, I think it's,
• 1:28:10
  you know. Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:28:12
  I like, and that's the thing that I find with a lot of the
• 1:28:16
  reviews where like people don't like movies, they get just kind
• 1:28:20
  of like make personal attacks. And I think the separate the art
• 1:28:25
  from the artist has to go both ways.
• 1:28:27
  Like if you like something that's made by a shitty person,
• 1:28:30
  like you can acknowledge that their work is good, but also
• 1:28:35
  like they're maybe not necessarily a good person.
• 1:28:39
  I think it can go a bunch of different directions too.
• 1:28:42
  If you don't like something, that doesn't mean that you have
• 1:28:45
  to hate the person. Yeah, the people involved.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah, that was just out of nowhere, man.
• 1:28:50
  Uncalled for. And some people like the
• 1:28:53
  silliness of it. Like I said, I'm OK with the
• 1:28:56
  general what the fuckness of it? I want it to make a little bit
• 1:28:59
  more sense, but I'm OK with it being as odd as it is.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah, this is a cult classic. It's not like a classic classic.
• 1:29:05
  Yeah, I don't think this thing has like wide mass appeal, you
• 1:29:09
  know what I mean? Yeah.
• 1:29:10
  OK, so over on Instagram, listen to reviews.
• 1:29:15
  First off, we have Cube saves. Who says one of my favorite
• 1:29:18
  movies ever. You know, Reggie Fox.
• 1:29:24
  That might be one of my favorite movies, yeah.
• 1:29:26
  Dude Reggie totally fucks. He couldn't.
• 1:29:29
  That's why he was not in the movie half the time.
• 1:29:32
  Yeah, he was all fucking. Yeah, he probably fucks more
• 1:29:35
  than the tall. Man, why do you think he's an
• 1:29:37
  ice cream man? Everybody knows ice cream, man.
• 1:29:41
  Get it? They get on the rag.
• 1:29:44
  All right, Next up, Michael Lee Howard says Phantasm is a fun
• 1:29:48
  ride, Killer warps, the Tall Man, questionable acting, a
• 1:29:51
  version of Hell, an Ice Cream Man, Fluez, guitar jams, and an
• 1:29:54
  ending that is so confusing your head spins like the orbs lol. 8
• 1:30:00
  out of 10. That's essentially is that we
• 1:30:02
  went out to dinner and one of the servers was just like, So
• 1:30:06
  what are you guys getting into? And we're like, oh, we're going
• 1:30:08
  to go watch a scary movie, he said.
• 1:30:09
  Which one? Travis's Phantasm.
• 1:30:12
  He's like, what's that about? And they basically Travis said
• 1:30:15
  Michael, where do I start? Yeah, he basically said
• 1:30:18
  Michael's review verbatim. Yeah, it's like a kid.
• 1:30:21
  He, you know, is following his brother.
• 1:30:23
  He's this tall man that's still in bodies and making a little
• 1:30:26
  minion. There's orbs, there's an ice
• 1:30:29
  cream man. Yeah.
• 1:30:31
  Yeah, like, really like how? How else can you describe this
• 1:30:33
  movie? That's probably the synopsis.
• 1:30:37
  OK, Final review we have. Oh wait, no, I think we have two
• 1:30:44
  reviews actually. All right, Over on Twitter, MC
• 1:30:48
  Aquila Boobs says. Honestly, this one is just OK
• 1:30:51
  for me. I'll admit though, nothing's
• 1:30:53
  scarier than a creepy old man and his balls.
• 1:30:58
  Very true you. Saw the opportunity and took it.
• 1:31:01
  I appreciate it. Yeah, that could have been
• 1:31:03
  another stack line. Yeah, I get it.
• 1:31:06
  I I can totally get this one not working for people, for all the
• 1:31:10
  weirdness of it and the just not really cohesiveness of it.
• 1:31:15
  All right, Final review movie for Movies for Days says yay.
• 1:31:18
  Well, this one, I've really got affection for the whole
• 1:31:21
  franchise. But Part 1 is the only one I'd
• 1:31:23
  recommend to a garden variety horror fan.
• 1:31:26
  Interesting. You know, if you're a horror
• 1:31:28
  fan, I'll point you towards this movie generally.
• 1:31:31
  I think everybody should always check it out.
• 1:31:33
  I think that's one of those that like, you know, I talk about the
• 1:31:36
  ones that you can recommend to a more casual horror viewer versus
• 1:31:40
  like people that are into horror, you know what I mean?
• 1:31:44
  This feels like one that would be more for people that are into
• 1:31:47
  horror. Yeah, same.
• 1:31:48
  Like if you're a horror fan and like you're plugged into that
• 1:31:51
  whole thing and you're like looking for shit, obviously, you
• 1:31:54
  know, check out Fantasm, you know, it's a 79 weird ass movie.
• 1:31:59
  And usually whenever I hear those words, I'm like, oh hell
• 1:32:02
  yeah. Yeah, that's that's got you
• 1:32:04
  right from the jump. Yeah, so if you're into that
• 1:32:07
  shit, check this out. That's what I say.
• 1:32:11
  OK, all right, that's it. That's it for the reviews.
• 1:32:14
  So that means that's it for this week's episode.
• 1:32:16
  And next week we are going on to something new, and this was
• 1:32:19
  voted by our bubbies over on Patreon.
• 1:32:22
  Hey by the way, I wanted to say I put on the Patreon that this
• 1:32:25
  was our Halloween movie because it was originally, but we
• 1:32:28
  learned that there is another Thursday this month so we had to
• 1:32:31
  scramble and figure out something else.
• 1:32:32
  So yeah. And it was not and ever before
• 1:32:36
  seen. But it was also a hey, Thursday
• 1:32:39
  falls on actual Halloween, so we took the opportunity to plug in.
• 1:32:43
  It's too late. Yeah.
• 1:32:44
  So you all chose the mid month? Yeah, film, which is still new
• 1:32:50
  to both of us. Yeah.
• 1:32:52
  And there's a whole night. With the Devil, yeah.
• 1:32:55
  So that is currently streaming on AMC, Philo, YouTube Prime
• 1:32:59
  Time, Sling TV, Prime Premium, YouTube TV Premium where you can
• 1:33:04
  rent it through Google Play and Fandango at home.
• 1:33:06
  Dude, you didn't even say shutter.
• 1:33:07
  I'm sorry shutter doesn't come up on Google and I read the
• 1:33:10
  that's how I get the list. Well, 90% of the things you just
• 1:33:13
  listed there is if you subscribe to Shutter through those
• 1:33:16
  services. So this is a Shutter movie and
• 1:33:19
  on AMC Plus because AMC is Shutter or Shutter is AMC, I
• 1:33:23
  should say so, yeah. Bring it on Shutter's SEO.
• 1:33:28
  Yeah, I mean, that's it. So that's where you can watch
• 1:33:31
  this thing if you don't wanna rinse it.
• 1:33:32
  Yeah. But yeah, I've heard a lot of
• 1:33:34
  good things about this. Maybe you had a lot of buzz.
• 1:33:37
  I'm excited, check it out. Yeah, it's been, it's been on
• 1:33:40
  our list for a little while and I'm glad we're doing it.
• 1:33:43
  The same guy at the restaurant that we explained Phantasm to,
• 1:33:47
  he's like, oh, you all should check out right now with the
• 1:33:49
  devil. I'm like, oh, we're going to in
• 1:33:50
  a few weeks, man. As a matter of.
• 1:33:52
  Fact. He said no, that's weird.
• 1:33:52
  Why wouldn't you do that today? Except he didn't actually say
• 1:33:54
  that. But I knew that he was actually
• 1:33:56
  thinking that to himself. Yeah.
• 1:33:57
  Michael McMahon, I don't have to tell you the life story.
• 1:33:59
  Yeah. I don't have to watch it on your
• 1:34:01
  schedule. And that's how I finished that
• 1:34:04
  conversation. In my head and he just threw
• 1:34:06
  down his pen and walked away. Yep.
• 1:34:09
  OK, so that's it. That's what we're gonna be
• 1:34:10
  doing. So I guess we will catch you all
• 1:34:13
  next week on Late Night with the Devil.
• 1:34:15
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• 1:34:26
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• 1:34:55
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• 1:34:59
  Yeah. Talia's rootin for you guys.
• 1:35:02
  Yeah, you guys. She woke up just in time for the
• 1:35:04
  end of the episode. You want to say?
• 1:35:05
  Yeah, Really. Excited.
• 1:35:07
  OK. Do you want to give your
• 1:35:09
  thoughts on Phantasm? While you're awake, go ahead,
• 1:35:11
  give us your review. All you got to say.
• 1:35:18
  You bashful now? Anything else?
• 1:35:25
  Final closing arguments. OK, All right, That's the she
• 1:35:32
  she said her piece. She's like, you heard me.
• 1:35:35
  Here we go. That's her final review.
• 1:35:41
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• 1:35:44
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• 1:35:46
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• 1:36:02
  Share the episodes or whatever. Yeah, I love it when people give
• 1:36:05
  little mini reviews of our episodes.
• 1:36:07
  That makes me real happy. So yeah, I appreciate y'all, you
• 1:36:11
  know, doing the things that you do.
• 1:36:12
  I, you know, it helps a lot. I promise it does.
• 1:36:16
  Yeah, it makes a big difference if nothing like it makes us
• 1:36:19
  happy, but it also like gets other people interested in the
• 1:36:21
  show, OK. So we really appreciate you all
• 1:36:23
  doing that for us. So Talia's currently eating my
• 1:36:27
  hand right now. Yeah.
• 1:36:28
  So I gotta get out of. Here.
• 1:36:29
  Yeah, we gotta go. All right, we'll see you all
• 1:36:33
  next week. Until then.
• 1:36:35
  Bye. Really Cascarelli doing that?
• 1:36:52
  It's Casco, Really. I know it's Costcarelli but.