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Nats rally in game 1 vs Giants, series review with FP Santangelo · District Territory

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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Special edition is splash Hit Territory. It's a crossover show.
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Speaker 2: We got the San Francisco edition, we got the DC edition.
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Speaker 2: The Nats are in town. And the broadcaster for the
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Speaker 2: Nats former San Francisco Giant, Anaheim Angel Philadelphia, Philly. I'm
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Speaker 2: probably leaving something out in current broadcaster from the Washington Nationals,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Franz and Frandy.
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Speaker 1: What's going on? Man, Thanks for coming on. You forgot
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Speaker 1: the teams have fired me. So yeah, we're good. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: not like a crazy trip, but you guys had We
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Speaker 1: finally hit our first West coast trip Arizona kind of
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Speaker 1: hot and then you get here and it was raining
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Speaker 1: last night. I swear to God, born and raised here
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Speaker 1: right in San Jose. Been to so many games at
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Speaker 1: you know, at the phone booth, and I think I've
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Speaker 1: experienced one game where rained. Last night it rained. I
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Speaker 1: was like, what the hell are we doing here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was freezing too. We had a homestand last
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Speaker 2: time where people were freaking out because there was rain
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Speaker 2: in the forecast and I didn't even know they had
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Speaker 2: a tarp here. But I guess every LB team mask
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Speaker 2: to avatar.
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Speaker 1: You have to have a tarp. You have to have tart.
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Speaker 2: The weather's been weird and the game was weird last night.
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Speaker 2: You guys are swinging the bats, you're playing really well.
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Speaker 2: It looked like the Giants figured things out last night.
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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, the ninetheend happened. Just talk
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Speaker 2: about what you saw from the booth last night. I
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Speaker 2: was kind of surprised that CJ got a chance to
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Speaker 2: hit there with the game on the line, with his
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Speaker 2: runners and scoring averages through the roof, he's what does
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Speaker 2: he leading the league in RBIs and he got a
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Speaker 2: chance to hit.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of things that stood out. Number one,
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Speaker 1: I thought Tony like managed Big Tony by telefan, So
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Speaker 1: it goes back all the way to college, like he
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Speaker 1: was a coach against me in summer ball. But that's
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Speaker 1: besides the point. We saw something different from him last night.
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Speaker 1: Like you look up and down and there's like no
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Speaker 1: sack bunchs, no sack bunchs, no sack bunds, And you
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Speaker 1: get the sack punt and then you get safety squeeze,
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Speaker 1: the great play ever right after the sack punt last night,
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Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I think you're different here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you're like, I feel like you go into a
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Speaker 1: series against the Giants and you're not expecting the pressure, right,
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Speaker 1: Like you're not expecting crap, like really like you're expecting
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Speaker 1: them just to go out hit and they've been banging.
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Speaker 1: We know that, and next thing you know, the bunch
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Speaker 1: are laid down. You're like, uh, all right, that's not
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Speaker 1: that's not good. But then it came to the point
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Speaker 1: of where I feel like this needs to take a
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Speaker 1: little bit of time on, you know, decision making, because
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Speaker 1: Logan Web was the guy that was just absolutely dealing.
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Speaker 1: They had no shot against that. It was a woof
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Speaker 1: of ball last night that he was throwing. I mean
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Speaker 1: you talk about you know, the everyone talks with him
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Speaker 1: east west, I mean it was east west, north, southwest.
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Speaker 1: You're like, how is this possible? How are you getting
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Speaker 1: the hit? And really the lack of of you know,
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Speaker 1: heard contact against them made me think like, oh, there's
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Speaker 1: no way they're gonna take him out. But I don't
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Speaker 1: This is stuff that you know, fans don't know. We
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Speaker 1: don't know. Did Logan was he on the flight with
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Speaker 1: you guys? Was he on you know, a flight earlier?
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Speaker 1: Did you go back earlier? Do We don't know that
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Speaker 1: stuff like on our side, and I think that takes
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Speaker 1: an account of it. Now. Number two, the relievers are
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Speaker 1: going on that flight, right, So you had what four
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Speaker 1: guys that had back to backs already, you have inexperience already,
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Speaker 1: and you're looking you're going. I thought Caleb Killing would
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Speaker 1: have been the only one because he only threw six
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Speaker 1: pitches the night before on a back to back. That
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Speaker 1: would have been the only one he would have gone
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Speaker 1: with for three time er. And next thing you know,
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Speaker 1: it's Keaton Wynn, who you know, talking to Kreuk. He's
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Speaker 1: been the best and what he thinks is the most
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Speaker 1: closer like and you could sense the urgency like so
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Speaker 1: all these things go in the factor and then you
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Speaker 1: listen after the game and Logan's like, yeah, he asked
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Speaker 1: me what I thought, and I was like, whatever you want.
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Speaker 1: And the moment a pitcher says whatever you want to
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Speaker 1: do as gone, right, Like usually we hear from Logan,
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Speaker 1: especially Logan web the nah man, I'm good, I'm good
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Speaker 1: to go and fight for it. And maybe that was
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Speaker 1: a little understanding of what was going on right there
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Speaker 1: for Logan. Maybe he wasn't feeling it third start off
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Speaker 1: the il and then you know the pass ball, which
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Speaker 1: is egregious in that situation that gets first and second
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Speaker 1: and second third, and and you know, I said it
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Speaker 1: right there at the moment of my open bays, there's
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Speaker 1: no reason to pitch to him right here, and they
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Speaker 1: pitched him, and it was like, yay, all right, they
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Speaker 1: pitched the CJ who has now fifty one RBI and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, special player this year especially, And I just
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Speaker 1: I didn't understand that that was the one that if
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Speaker 1: there's something that really threw me off more than anything,
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Speaker 1: it was it was pitching to him in that moment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what Kevin's talking about is the Giants played the
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Speaker 2: night game, the NBC Night Game in San Francisco. Everyone
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Speaker 2: on here probably knows, but maybe what you don't know
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Speaker 2: is that I think it was wheels down about three
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Speaker 2: forty in the morning. By the time we got back
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Speaker 2: to our place, it was almost five o'clock. Logan Web
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Speaker 2: did fly ahead of the team, so he was the
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Speaker 2: fresh guy in there, but there.
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Speaker 1: Still no right, that's stuff that you don't know how
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Speaker 1: everything reacts on that.
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Speaker 2: And I also don't know what Logan Web told Tony Vaitella.
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Speaker 2: What you say to the scrum after the game might
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Speaker 2: be different than what you said to him in the dugout.
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Speaker 1: Here's the only thing is that it's like what.
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Speaker 2: Kevin, what if he said, like, yeah, I told him
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Speaker 2: I wanted the ball? Like he's kind of throwing his
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Speaker 2: manager under the bus. So he's not going to tell
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Speaker 2: the media that maybe.
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Speaker 1: We've heard him be honest before.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very he is very honest, very very honest.
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Speaker 1: That's the one that was when I heard that, because
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Speaker 1: I feel like he's he's the least uh PC on
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Speaker 1: anything right when it comes to you know, decision making
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Speaker 1: and stuff. He just lets it known. And I find
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Speaker 1: because it's refreshing with him with Logan, it's like when
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Speaker 1: it's your ace, you listen to anything and everything he says.
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Speaker 1: And and not only your ace, one of the aces
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Speaker 1: of top you know, five pitchers in the game. You
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you guys are playing some good baseball.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's a fun team to watch. It's whether
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Speaker 2: it's James Woods, cj Abrams, you know, watching from afar. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: pitching has been an issue with you guys, but the
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Speaker 2: road has it. Your road record incredible. Your er at
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Speaker 2: home is above six. Your er and the roads and
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Speaker 2: the fours. Maybe that's the reason that you're playing better
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Speaker 2: on the road. You're there every day. You could tell me.
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Speaker 1: I just I think it's a lot. I think there's
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Speaker 1: a lot involved. There's the places they've played early on
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Speaker 1: this year have been some tough places, right Like when
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Speaker 1: you go to the Cubs, you go to Philly right away,
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Speaker 1: you go to Chicago White Sox, who've been playing great.
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Speaker 1: You go to Atlanta, you go to Milwaukee, you go
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Speaker 1: to really really quality teams. I feel like your feelers
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Speaker 1: are up, like we've we've been there, right Like, you
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Speaker 1: know that you just don't want to get embarrassed. And
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Speaker 1: I feel like with that comes, you know, a sense
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Speaker 1: of urgency. With the way they played on the road.
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Speaker 1: They've played from ahead on the road a lot thanks
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Speaker 1: to James a lot of the times. But it's it's,
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Speaker 1: you know, a full, full blown effort. It's the pitching
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Speaker 1: goes along with the defense too, because the defense has
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Speaker 1: been you know, subpar for most of the year. To
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Speaker 1: be where they're at record wise with the defense they've played,
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Speaker 1: it's surprising, right that's just how much they've cleaned things
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Speaker 1: up on the offensive side, and they score a ton
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Speaker 1: of runs first innings, like what fifty one fifty two
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Speaker 1: runs all year and the first in it's it's you
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Speaker 1: know when when you score one or two runs a game,
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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, they lack energy, they have no energy.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's every sport. It's like it's always about
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Speaker 1: the offense. It's really fun to cover these games because
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Speaker 1: they're they're exciting, but yeah, they're they're athletic as hell.
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Speaker 1: I kind of liking it to like a Diamondbacks team
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but with less pitching. Remember
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Speaker 1: how much like chaos they just created on the bass pass,
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Speaker 1: whether it was a base hit, scoring you know, from
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Speaker 1: first you know, stealing bases and doing all that. It's
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Speaker 1: just they're fast. They put the pressure on you and
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Speaker 1: it's never like a one off like they don't have
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Speaker 1: that like ground ball. They're jogging it out and not
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Speaker 1: creating that pressure. They're always doing it. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I love that. And back to your point about the Giants,
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Speaker 2: button they've been John who's been stealing his first two he's.
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Speaker 1: So when they took out files Michaelis last night, I
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Speaker 1: was like, whoever you bring, it doesn't matter. He's giving
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Speaker 1: up a hit like he's like Jimmy Lee's gonna get
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Speaker 1: a knock.
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Speaker 2: You just throw them out there, left and right. And
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Speaker 2: they've been Buntymore and they've been steely Moore, and they
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Speaker 2: were so stagnant in April and it was stationed at
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Speaker 2: station and maybe guys not running the ball out hard enough,
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're playing super hard. And
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Speaker 2: maybe you get to a point, Kevin, if you've been
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Speaker 2: there as a player where you got nothing to lose.
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Speaker 2: And their brand of baseball has been exciting, whether it's
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Speaker 2: jung u Lei, whether it's Bryce Eldridge, the kid who's
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Speaker 2: swinging the bad hot and all of a sudden, that's
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Speaker 2: coming on now. And Adamas is playing well, so they're
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Speaker 2: playing better baseball. But you know, the back end of
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Speaker 2: the bullpen has been a situation all season long. And
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Speaker 2: you've been on teams, and I've been on teams where
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Speaker 2: when you lose games late, that's the quietest clubhouse, right,
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Speaker 2: that's the quietest playing ride or the quietest bus ride
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Speaker 2: to the airport. The Giants have had some heartbreakers last
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Speaker 2: year lately this year, i should say, and that's that's
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Speaker 2: been an issue. But the team has been playing much
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Speaker 2: better baseball. It's been a fun brand to watch, where
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Speaker 2: maybe Giants couldn't say that. In April and early May,
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Speaker 2: Devers had a good May. He's quieting down in June
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Speaker 2: right now a little bit. But you know, when you
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Speaker 2: talk about the way they're playing, it's a different Brand's
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Speaker 2: the kind of ball you and I played, the kind
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Speaker 2: of ball you and I had to play, had to
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Speaker 2: stay in the big leagues.
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Speaker 1: The o The other thing that I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you saw this last night, but like Lilia Damas and
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Speaker 1: Luisa Rise, I know they they're energy guys anyways, but
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Speaker 1: they took it to a different level last night, and
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Speaker 1: I felt like I hope fans understand, like having veteran
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Speaker 1: guys do that on after a road trip or after
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Speaker 1: a landing, like they were like Bryce Elders hits that
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Speaker 1: double down left field line to put them on top,
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Speaker 1: and it's like they erupted and they were on the field,
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Speaker 1: and it was like, that's what you're supposed to do,
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Speaker 1: Like that's the energy you have to play with on
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Speaker 1: these games, right because today's the day that he usually
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Speaker 1: hits you, but yesterday was that day where you just
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Speaker 1: play like with like no abandon on the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: And I love that part of it because the energy
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Speaker 1: part is what you miss sometimes here in San Francisco
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Speaker 1: was energy just energy in general. But yeah, I mean nothing,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to build a pen. I think we we've
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Speaker 1: all learned that it doesn't matter. You know how good
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Speaker 1: uh your Hall of Fame catcher in in Buster posey
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Speaker 1: you you've done it. I think he's done a really
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Speaker 1: good job at just like building certain parts of the roster.
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Speaker 1: But the bullpen is never an easy one to do.
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Speaker 1: It's so vouatile, right. You got to have guys that
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Speaker 1: are going to be you know, you don't have the
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Speaker 1: the old you know, the hobbies in the in the
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Speaker 1: Romos and the Wilson's, uh the NFL SE you know,
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Speaker 1: you go on and on about all the guys Casie
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Speaker 1: and all that. You don't have those here yet. But
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Speaker 1: they can make that and it just takes time. It
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Speaker 1: just sucks that, you know that people have to deal
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Speaker 1: with it, you know, with the NATS, I mean we
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Speaker 1: deal with it a lot. There's a lot of up
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Speaker 1: and down in that pen. And especially early on you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: uh the numbers in the uh you know, at home.
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Speaker 1: A lot of that's in the bullpen too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty nineteen when the Nats won the World Series,
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Speaker 2: the bullpen was a huge issual early. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 2: and then Doolittle and and Ryan Madson and some guys
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Speaker 2: fell into a Rizzo's lap. And then they used all
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Speaker 2: the starters as relievers throughout the playoffs, right, Yeah, some
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Speaker 2: of those guys that gave the career for that, to
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Speaker 2: be honest, But yeah, the bullpen's always are working. I
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Speaker 2: always felt like, Franny, there's some guy in double A
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Speaker 2: or triple A that throws a hundred, it's a starter,
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Speaker 2: and you just say, oh, hey, let's bring him up
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Speaker 2: as a reliever. I'm not sure who those guys are
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Speaker 2: on the Giants organization right now because I don't pay
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Speaker 2: close attention to the minor leagues, but I always felt
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Speaker 2: like it's hard, but you can tinker and figure things out,
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Speaker 2: whether it's on the market or in your own organization.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And at the end of the day, like, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's funny because we've been talking about this a lot.
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Speaker 1: First time in five years I've looked at the minor
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Speaker 1: leagues because they've actually been doing a bunch of stuff.
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Speaker 1: This year. Top two teams in wins in the minor
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Speaker 1: leagues have been the Giants and Nats, which is pretty
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Speaker 1: cool to see. They take pride in that right. Well,
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Speaker 1: a lot of it is at velocity that how are
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Speaker 1: you going to get more velocity and create those pens?
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Speaker 1: And like you said, there could be the guy in
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Speaker 1: double A, could be that starter in double A that's
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Speaker 1: doing something that you know, we don't have a slot
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Speaker 1: for you in the staff, but we have it in
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Speaker 1: the bullpen. And who knows who that is for them?
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Speaker 1: But I still think like they the Dlon Smith kid
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Speaker 1: like thirteen appearances in the big leagues. He looks good man,
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Speaker 1: But is that one where you like if I like, honestly,
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Speaker 1: if it's anybody tell them in that situation where you
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Speaker 1: know you were hunting to win last night, but do
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Speaker 1: you go to that right away? I don't. I believe
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Speaker 1: he did the right thing as far as who he
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Speaker 1: wanted to go to, because we don't know how those
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Speaker 1: guys reacted after coming off the the plane. Right like
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Speaker 1: everyone could, everyone could bitch and moan about all they
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Speaker 1: want like I have. When did when did the giant
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Speaker 1: fan become like an angry fan? Well? So that's what
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Speaker 1: I want to know, April. It does makes sense to me.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense, no, but.
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Speaker 2: Kevin I tweet something out about defendive Buster Posey. I
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Speaker 2: said something on here about Buster Posey, and I just
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Speaker 2: didn't understand how mean it was. I do think criticism
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Speaker 2: is fair right now. I do think that's the line
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Speaker 2: of the nature of the beast, right if you're not
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Speaker 2: for me at the highest level. But it's been it's
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Speaker 2: been a little bit intense lately, and I stayed out Twitter,
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Speaker 2: which is not a fun place to be on right now.
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Speaker 2: But you understand the fans frustration that that you know,
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Speaker 2: ten twelve and fourteen, as you know, spoil a lot
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Speaker 2: of people around here, and rightly so that was that
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Speaker 2: was an epic run by the Giants, and there has
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Speaker 2: been a lot of five hundred baseball here. So I
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Speaker 2: think fans want greatness, and if fans care, that's the
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Speaker 2: most important thing. How they care is not for me
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Speaker 2: to tell them, and how they come at people is
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Speaker 2: not for me to tell them. But you're glad they care,
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Speaker 2: and you're glad they're passionate, because the worst thing that
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Speaker 2: could happen is Giants fans all of a sudden, don't
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Speaker 2: care and that's been your trouble. So yeah, I love
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Speaker 2: the passion. Sometimes. You know, it's a little bit keyboard
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Speaker 2: career where you know you're taking some really mean and
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Speaker 2: cruel shots at players and at front office personnel and
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Speaker 2: maybe a guy that does a podcast, But you understand
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Speaker 2: where it's coming from because we're all frustrated.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: The stuff I say behind the scenes with my friends,
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Speaker 2: the stuff I say off the air, we're all cranky
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Speaker 2: right now, we're all frustrated. But I'll say this, they
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Speaker 2: won four out a five before last night. It seems
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Speaker 2: like they turned the corner. That was just to hang
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Speaker 2: with them to me, And there's a lot of things
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Speaker 2: to question from last night. And I'm glad they're mad.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad they're cranky, and I'm glad they want a
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Speaker 2: better product out there. But I thought they had turned
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Speaker 2: the corner. Last night was a gut punch. But talk
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Speaker 2: about your organization for a little bit. I mean, since
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Speaker 2: I was there, you got a whole new front office.
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Speaker 2: Your manager's like sixteen years old. He's doing a great job.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, and you guys are all hitting with
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Speaker 2: that vest on that says, all the analytics stuff and
15:50
Speaker 2: you got the pads, But it seems like a very
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Speaker 2: analyticly driven organization all of a sudden, where Mike Rizzo
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Speaker 2: was old school, not that he did like analytics, but
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Speaker 2: he was more of the out the old school, the
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Speaker 2: field guy. But things have changed drastically over there and
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Speaker 2: it seems to be working.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's up and down the organization. Look,
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Speaker 1: sometimes it just needs to change. And you know, Riz
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Speaker 1: did his job for such a good job for twenty
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Speaker 1: plus years, and I think at some point you had
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Speaker 1: to move on. You had to get into the age
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Speaker 1: of I think it was Dale and Lyle who said, like,
16:21
Speaker 1: we're not in the dark ages anymore, because you know
16:24
Speaker 1: the technology all these guys use in the off season,
16:27
Speaker 1: they didn't have it at their disposal, right, And then
16:29
Speaker 1: you see the traject machine is I know the Giants
16:32
Speaker 1: were one of the first teams to have it as well,
16:34
Speaker 1: Like that's where one of the last teams to have it.
16:37
Speaker 1: Now they have it a couple of them that they
16:38
Speaker 1: have throughout the organization. Wait, what is that?
16:40
Speaker 2: Explain what that is?
16:41
Speaker 1: So a traject machine is a it's a it's an
16:48
Speaker 1: image of the picture that you're going to face of
16:51
Speaker 1: all big league pictures that has all the data that
16:53
Speaker 1: has like the same spin rates, same movement on the pitches,
16:56
Speaker 1: but you get it like he's throwing it on a
16:58
Speaker 1: video board right in front of you. It comes out
17:00
Speaker 1: a little hole. Now we'll give you the same release points.
17:03
Speaker 1: So it moves on the track left and right, so
17:06
Speaker 1: you're gonna get release points. You get Chris Chris Sale.
17:08
Speaker 1: You're getting it from the second basement right like, it'll
17:11
Speaker 1: move over there and give you his sequencing. It'll give you.
17:15
Speaker 1: You can just look at all fastballs from him. You
17:17
Speaker 1: can look at all fastballs from logan web all you
17:20
Speaker 1: want to see how he mixes and matches that he
17:23
Speaker 1: chriss crosses, you know, his cutter and syncre at times.
17:27
Speaker 1: Last night the sweeper was just disgusting. You can't cannot
17:30
Speaker 1: mimic that. But it's something that is not only just
17:36
Speaker 1: for hitting right like it like our catchers use it,
17:39
Speaker 1: and they've gotten so much better just by you know,
17:41
Speaker 1: being able to get more reps in there and be
17:43
Speaker 1: able to see visually like instead of a machine, they're
17:45
Speaker 1: actually catching what visually looks like their guy. And I
17:49
Speaker 1: think that was a huge part the you know, the
17:52
Speaker 1: track man stuff everyone has that hit tracks, all the
17:54
Speaker 1: stuff that you know you could hit in the cage
17:57
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, it pops up. As far
17:59
Speaker 1: as all the stuff that you could see, these are
18:01
Speaker 1: you know, any ballpark that you're at. These are all
18:04
Speaker 1: things that guy's hitting the offseason or even on the
18:07
Speaker 1: pitching side, you know, being able to dive in and
18:09
Speaker 1: and and show the the analytical side of it. Now,
18:13
Speaker 1: Haul Tavone, He's done a fantastic job. He's the new
18:16
Speaker 1: president of Baseball Ops. He's thirty five, thirty six. He's
18:18
Speaker 1: thirty six years old now. He's from born and raised
18:21
Speaker 1: San Francisco, San Francisco kid. He went to SI. That sucks.
18:25
Speaker 1: He and I know I talks too much crap about
18:27
Speaker 1: it being Jesuit kids, me from Bellarman and him from SI.
18:31
Speaker 1: But that's besides the point. He is a leader that
18:34
Speaker 1: I really just enjoy being around. He has a lot
18:41
Speaker 1: of people around him that he you know, bounced his
18:43
Speaker 1: ideas off of. Everyone is pretty much young in the
18:46
Speaker 1: way that they do things. And really what they have
18:49
Speaker 1: shown to me is that all their investment is on
18:51
Speaker 1: each each player, each kid it is not about like
18:54
Speaker 1: the me me me. It is like they're heavily invested
18:58
Speaker 1: in each player, whether you're your player, what one, twenty
19:02
Speaker 1: in in you know, the minor leagues, or you know
19:04
Speaker 1: you're James Wood. Like, it is invested in tailored to you,
19:09
Speaker 1: which is phenomenal and it needed to change. Now. The
19:15
Speaker 1: coaching staff side of this in Washington, they're all young
19:19
Speaker 1: except for Michael Johns, who's the bench coach. He's fifty
19:21
Speaker 1: years old and Bobby Wilson who's forty three. Bobby is
19:24
Speaker 1: a former big league catcher. Uh, those are the only
19:27
Speaker 1: guys in the forties. You know, you got a lot
19:28
Speaker 1: of guys. You got some drive line guys. You got
19:31
Speaker 1: some guys that are newbies into the coaching world or
19:35
Speaker 1: like you know, a couple of years into it. And
19:37
Speaker 1: the one thing that has been very apparent with them,
19:40
Speaker 1: they know it's the show, but they care about the player.
19:44
Speaker 1: And that has been the alignment part from top to
19:46
Speaker 1: bottom is that it's gonna be about the players, and man,
19:51
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's refreshing to be honest with you.
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Speaker 2: Let's a preview tonight's game A little bit. I remember
20:57
Speaker 2: in April when Andrew Alvarez came in against the Giants,
21:00
Speaker 2: he was shoving. I think he went four or five
21:02
Speaker 2: innings the scoreless ball, gave up four hits, struck out
21:05
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys, didn't walk anybody. Is he Is
21:07
Speaker 2: he a length guy now or is he just gonna
21:09
Speaker 2: go a couple of innings? What is he going to
21:11
Speaker 2: be tonight for the Nationals?
21:13
Speaker 1: Well, he went four and a third I think last
21:15
Speaker 1: time out against the Marlins, it was like eighty seven
21:18
Speaker 1: pitches and thirty five balls. He's gonna throw a lot,
21:23
Speaker 1: a lot of sliders, a lot of curve balls. Just
21:25
Speaker 1: he just has a pretty damn good feel about spin.
21:30
Speaker 1: You know, it's a different look. It's a it's for him.
21:33
Speaker 1: It's all about if he attacks the strike zone, he's good.
21:36
Speaker 1: If not, if he nibbles, it's gonna be a short
21:38
Speaker 1: outing for him and they go from there. But yeah,
21:42
Speaker 1: you know, they they came into this early on with
21:44
Speaker 1: him as more bulk guy, right, like having an open
21:49
Speaker 1: in front of him, go to the bulk. But I
21:51
Speaker 1: think this is you know, the Giants haven't shown that
21:53
Speaker 1: they crush left. They do a good job, but they
21:56
Speaker 1: don't crush left these so they'll let them, you know,
21:58
Speaker 1: early on go against those guy doesn't matter, Like Rise's
22:01
Speaker 1: gonna get his hits you have to like go into
22:03
Speaker 1: these things knowing Rise is gonna get his hits and
22:05
Speaker 1: Jungle Lee's gonna get his hits. It's like, what do
22:06
Speaker 1: you do after that? You know, and and I feel
22:09
Speaker 1: like Jasey Schmidig gets left, He's like you just it's
22:12
Speaker 1: almost the obviously not the years yet in there, but
22:17
Speaker 1: you like feel like he's can tell like ca tell
22:19
Speaker 1: Marte from the right side rightly. You just don't throw him.
22:22
Speaker 1: Don't throw them anything middle because he'll crush it. But
22:25
Speaker 1: for Andrew, it's all about, you know, being able to
22:26
Speaker 1: control strike zone with the spend because the the fastball
22:29
Speaker 1: plays up if he lands at if it doesn't, it's
22:32
Speaker 1: ninety one ninety two, you know, and and then you're
22:35
Speaker 1: sitting on it and you're destroying it. But uh, you know,
22:38
Speaker 1: I think this is a good, good opportunity again for
22:41
Speaker 1: him because his second look a team as against him
22:44
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had much against. And then on the
22:47
Speaker 1: flip side, is that you know, they had a decent
22:49
Speaker 1: approach against Adrian Howses the first time.
22:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been O two to three two a lot lately,
22:54
Speaker 2: isn't that's crazy?
22:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sees such.
22:56
Speaker 2: A ground ball guy. I mean, and when I've seen
22:58
Speaker 2: him against the Giants in in the past, he just
23:01
Speaker 2: he just pounds the strike zone. But with something's a
23:04
Speaker 2: little bit off maybe in the mechanics. We'll see how
23:07
Speaker 2: it goes tonight. You got some patient hitters on your
23:09
Speaker 2: team that will take it their walks. You got some
23:10
Speaker 2: aggressive hitters too. We got a lot with the last
23:13
Speaker 2: night was ef regret. What was it, five outs on
23:16
Speaker 2: like eight pitches. At one point I was like, what
23:18
Speaker 2: the hell are we doing?
23:19
Speaker 1: Well?
23:19
Speaker 2: You know this, when the guy's established and he's throwing
23:22
Speaker 2: strikes and he's a strike at guy, which Logan Web
23:24
Speaker 2: was last year, you don't want to get to two strikes,
23:26
Speaker 2: so you first hit aable thing in there, you let
23:28
Speaker 2: it rip, right.
23:30
Speaker 1: I mean, I just carried that philosophy. No matter what,
23:34
Speaker 1: what's it like, We'll end it with this.
23:35
Speaker 2: What's it like for you being home? Have you got
23:37
Speaker 2: to see the family something? Mom?
23:40
Speaker 1: Mom?
23:40
Speaker 2: Yeah? When you come home, Like when I was in
23:42
Speaker 2: DC and I came to San Francisco, it's nice to
23:45
Speaker 2: an extent, but then it becomes an s show because
23:48
Speaker 2: everybody wants your time and you're you're running around like
23:51
Speaker 2: a crazy man. And I know Chip our director, you're
23:55
Speaker 2: director now, my former director. I just used to show
23:57
Speaker 2: up for the open because I was all over the
23:59
Speaker 2: place all the time. Is it like that for you
24:01
Speaker 2: when you come home.
24:02
Speaker 1: I've done a better job of late of just saying,
24:06
Speaker 1: like not even telling people I'm home. I'll go I'll
24:12
Speaker 1: go see mom. No, I just go see Mom and
24:15
Speaker 1: then you know, I'll see some of my buddies you know,
24:18
Speaker 1: here and there. But it's like, because it got stressful,
24:20
Speaker 1: and it hurt me that I'd made people upset if
24:23
Speaker 1: I didn't see everybody. And it's not how you're supposed
24:27
Speaker 1: to feel, right when you go home. You're supposed to
24:29
Speaker 1: be like, this is home, and so get into a
24:32
Speaker 1: joy a little bit. One of my best friends and
24:34
Speaker 1: his family, my god daughters coming up to game today,
24:36
Speaker 1: one of my godsons yesterday, came to the game, some
24:39
Speaker 1: family friends tomorrow. But I mean, you know, it matters
24:43
Speaker 1: when it comes to the fam, right, like as long
24:45
Speaker 1: as they're there and without Dad being here. Now it's
24:48
Speaker 1: a little harder to go home sometimes, but get to
24:50
Speaker 1: see mom and you know, spend some time there. I
24:53
Speaker 1: get that.
24:54
Speaker 2: It took me a month as a giant player to
24:57
Speaker 2: like realize I can't leave everybody tickets all the time.
25:00
Speaker 2: And it was like my sixth grade biology teacher, everyone
25:03
Speaker 2: in your whole life.
25:05
Speaker 1: I was trying to tell people like, uh, Tiboni was
25:09
Speaker 1: as he goes, hey, Julie tickets all the time. Was like,
25:11
Speaker 1: you know what, the funniest thing is my debut? Like
25:15
Speaker 1: my I felt like I left like five tickets and
25:18
Speaker 1: nobody else asked for them. It was like the day
25:21
Speaker 1: after the debut, everyone just started like, hey, I took
25:24
Speaker 1: it. It was like can I just have a debut day again?
25:27
Speaker 1: Like as far as like people not asking because it
25:29
Speaker 1: was amazing.
25:30
Speaker 2: Wait, I was there. You did you had a great
25:33
Speaker 2: first game? What'd you do again?
25:34
Speaker 1: Uh? Three hits? Yeah, because Susak was the only one
25:38
Speaker 1: that he was the first one to do it since me,
25:41
Speaker 1: h three Knox and hit my pitch. That's right.
25:43
Speaker 2: That graphic came up on the broadcast the other night,
25:45
Speaker 2: and I think I texted you. Uh.
25:48
Speaker 1: It was funny because I was like, man, I because
25:50
Speaker 1: you think about all the debuts that have happened since
25:53
Speaker 1: and all the great players that have happened since. Uh,
25:57
Speaker 1: And he was like that still stood. That's weird.
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Speaker 2: That was cool. All right, Franny, I'll see you over
26:02
Speaker 2: at the ballpark today. Thanks for coming on the show.
26:04
Speaker 1: I hope you're there.
26:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had an absent, Yeah, that was absent.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yesterday I was I was banged up. I was bagged
26:14
Speaker 2: up from Chicago and the flight, laying on my couch
26:16
Speaker 2: watching the game, saying, how are these guys doing it
26:18
Speaker 2: right now? I can't even get on my scooter and
26:20
Speaker 2: go over to the ballpark. But yeah, you're right. The
26:23
Speaker 2: second day in today, they're gonna feel it and they
26:27
Speaker 2: have no help.
26:27
Speaker 1: Now what are you talking about?
26:29
Speaker 2: Like that? Let it unleaded the coffee? All right, Fanny,
26:34
Speaker 2: see it. Thanks for coming on. Say on the way out, well,
26:37
Speaker 2: hello to all the Nats fans watching this. To miss
26:39
Speaker 2: you guys, And like I say, on the way out,
26:41
Speaker 2: every single time swing art in case you hit it
26:43
Speaker 2: on splash hit territory.