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John Tabacco - Purple People & Bridging The Divide · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 2: This is the Cats in Footing podcast melting and now
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  Speaker 2: here's Jen.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon everyone, and welcome to this episode of Cats
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  Speaker 3: and Pudding and today.
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  Speaker 4: I have a great, great, great guest, my friend Johny Tobacco.
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  Speaker 4: Here he is, look at him, Look at.
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  Speaker 5: This super great sound drunk.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't say I didn't use his other.
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  Speaker 5: Huge Well, I don't want you to call me. You
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  Speaker 5: you know I.
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  Speaker 4: Has all the contexts right.
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  Speaker 5: Not in my way, but call me.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing them?
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  Speaker 2: So happy to have you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 6: I heard so much about the cats and Footing and
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm the cat pull what.
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  Speaker 5: Does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's like if we talk about everything from
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  Speaker 3: cats to pudding. And basically the book name came about
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  Speaker 3: because I.
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  Speaker 7: Was just sitting in my house one night, eating pudding
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  Speaker 7: out of a pot and like sitting with my cat
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  Speaker 7: on my lap.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm like, this is what my life has, bets
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  Speaker 4: and pudding. So I'm like, you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to call my episode and call my.
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  Speaker 6: Podcast kill a title, and you know, like the psyche
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  Speaker 6: of America right now if you ask me, is you know?
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  Speaker 6: I think the governmental apparatus and the media is trying.
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  Speaker 5: To de live people so much. But I think people.
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  Speaker 6: Who just connect with other people that are like them
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  Speaker 6: and say like normal ship like yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 6: think that's kind of at the hard way people need
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  Speaker 6: to be when you try to talk to audience to
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  Speaker 6: say I'm the regular.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, don't you feel like that?
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  Speaker 8: Now?
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's it's you want to.
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  Speaker 7: I think most people are in the middle right or
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  Speaker 7: the way of thinking, don't you don't you agree with that?
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  Speaker 4: And it's just each shot.
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  Speaker 7: I think that one side is at the point where
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  Speaker 7: it's like you have to agree with them, agree with them,
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  Speaker 7: agree with everything they cite, or you're canceled.
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  Speaker 5: No, totally agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: As you know, I am on a center right cable
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  Speaker 6: news network.
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  Speaker 4: And what network is that we could.
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  Speaker 5: Talk well Newsmax TV. I don't know if they're allowed
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  Speaker 5: to say.
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  Speaker 6: You can say whatever to show call wise guys, and
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  Speaker 6: we kind of take a lighter look at politics. And
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  Speaker 6: one of the great things that news Max lets me
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  Speaker 6: do is go out and do a lot of man
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  Speaker 6: on the street and I go.
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  Speaker 5: To the Bronx, I go to Nashville, I go to California.
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  Speaker 6: I go all over the country and talk to people
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  Speaker 6: red envelope right and get.
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  Speaker 5: The point of view. And then you know, no matter
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  Speaker 5: how you slice it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a half Irish, half Italian kid from Staten Island,
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  Speaker 6: so I think my father was a cop who was
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  Speaker 6: a union member. Do call a family. I feel like
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  Speaker 6: I understand people, you know.
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  Speaker 7: And you understand regular people, you know, not even middle class.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I've been working on Wall Street for thirty years. I
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  Speaker 6: was president of a public company. I understand billionaires tools,
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  Speaker 6: but then I followed fifty Section eight tenants, so I
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  Speaker 6: understand the plate of poorer people, you know, upper lower
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  Speaker 6: middle lower middle class, upper lower class.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But I would just say to the agenda. I always
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  Speaker 6: say this, I'm a libert. A lot of Americans are
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  Speaker 6: probably libertarians too.
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  Speaker 5: They just don't know it. You know, libertarians are kind
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  Speaker 5: of like I'm just going to.
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  Speaker 6: So libertarians are like socially liberal, right, So you want
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  Speaker 6: to smoke weed weed, you want to be gay, We're
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  Speaker 6: flying the rainbow flag.
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  Speaker 5: All the time.
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  Speaker 6: You want to have a transgender with reason, with parental support,
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  Speaker 6: do whatever you want, right. But on the other side
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  Speaker 6: of the coin, we want borders, we want safety, we
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  Speaker 6: want good schools, and we want lower taxes and access
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  Speaker 6: to capital for businesses.
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  Speaker 5: Right. So it's like no one talks about people like
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  Speaker 5: me because.
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  Speaker 6: The government doesn't want us to realize that there's more
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  Speaker 6: of us who are socially liberal and fiscally.
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  Speaker 5: They don't want us to be libertarians. Right.
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  Speaker 6: And I always say like, I actually ran for New
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  Speaker 6: York City Controller year in twenty one wow.
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  Speaker 5: As the libertarian candidate.
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  Speaker 6: So I knew I had no shotow win, right because,
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  Speaker 6: like you said, most people.
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  Speaker 4: Don't even know what back is, right, But it's a
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  Speaker 4: good definition.
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to.
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  Speaker 6: Get a set of ideas out there, which I did,
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  Speaker 6: and I got three percent of the vote. I was
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  Speaker 6: right underneath Curtis on the ballot. He got twenty six
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  Speaker 6: percent of the vote, but I was the libertarian, he
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  Speaker 6: was the Republican right.
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  Speaker 8: But for my show on NEWSMACS, I have this little
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  Speaker 8: ship that I do, and I say that in my view,
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  Speaker 8: like ten percent.
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  Speaker 6: Of people out thet are like all blue, right, like really,
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  Speaker 6: and ten percent of people out there are like all right,
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  Speaker 6: you know. So those twenty I put in my mind
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  Speaker 6: as the zealous right, and I think the other eighty
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  Speaker 6: of us have some spots of red and some spots
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  Speaker 6: of blue. And I always say, like, if you watch
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  Speaker 6: my show, you better be purple because my people are
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  Speaker 6: purple people.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like shades.
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  Speaker 6: Right, you could you could.
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  Speaker 5: Have like you could be Listen. I'm Catholic, I was
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  Speaker 5: raised Catholic. I went to Catholic high school or boys,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 6: But I also was like strongly against vaccines, right, And
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  Speaker 6: if the government's trying to force a vaccine into you,
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  Speaker 6: then they're taking away my body, my choice.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that's true, which makes those senses that is that
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  Speaker 7: they're talking about abortion. It's your body, of your choice,
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  Speaker 7: and then they're forcing you a vaccine on you.
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  Speaker 5: Agree, it's all right, you can't be both.
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  Speaker 4: You can't you can't be my choice, and then you.
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  Speaker 6: Kill babies, kill babies kill babies and then.
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  Speaker 5: Say whoa you know?
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  Speaker 6: So I always say ten percent is wacky on the left,
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  Speaker 6: ten percent is wacky on the right. Eighty We have
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  Speaker 6: different shades of purple, this beautiful studio purple. But to me,
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  Speaker 6: I can be like, I could be pro weed right
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  Speaker 6: and pro gun. I'm Catholic, but I respect a woman's
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  Speaker 6: right to reproductive help and to choose right.
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  Speaker 5: So I respect that. I'm not like, never be like
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  Speaker 5: against it right, and I could be pro I could
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  Speaker 5: be pro choice and pro gum. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean that you have. It's it's red
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  Speaker 4: or blue, and that's it.
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  Speaker 7: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: That's what they want. And I think if you really
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  Speaker 5: sat down.
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  Speaker 6: Like we are right now, and that's why cats are
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  Speaker 6: putting so amazing purple, if you have, if I would
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  Speaker 6: say most people we know that are right are probably
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  Speaker 6: closer to the purple people.
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  Speaker 5: Than they are to the all red.
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  Speaker 4: And all blue, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: So I always say, if you watch wise guys, you
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  Speaker 6: better be a purple.
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  Speaker 5: People, because I like both sides of the coin.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I go to the Israel, the pro
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  Speaker 6: Israel protests and I go to the pro Hamas protests, and.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with Trump.
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  Speaker 6: Trump's the most pro Israel president ever, and I know
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  Speaker 6: Israel's our greatest ally in the Middle East. But when
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  Speaker 6: I go out to these things for my show, I
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  Speaker 6: want America to know that I'm willing and able to
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  Speaker 6: hear both sides of the coins.
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  Speaker 5: Then I throw all that crap out. Dam Yeah, another
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  Speaker 5: American side.
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  Speaker 7: Don't you feel that that's been a problem over the
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  Speaker 7: last ten years that I feel that we used to
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  Speaker 7: be able to talk to one another, and now over
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  Speaker 7: the last ten years, it's like that nobody can sit
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  Speaker 7: and listen. And it comes from both sides. It's not
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  Speaker 7: just it's most I mean, the left is worse than
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  Speaker 7: the right. But there's no you can't sit and have
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  Speaker 7: a conversation with somebody anymore because if you don't agree.
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  Speaker 4: With what they say, if it's like you're not with me,
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  Speaker 4: you don't agree where you're not with me, and that's it.
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  Speaker 9: There's no debate, there's no change of ideas anymore.
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  Speaker 4: It's just black or white, or red or blue.
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  Speaker 6: I should say I agree with you, Jim, And you know,
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  Speaker 6: is that frustrating? It's massively frustrating, And I would you say, like,
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  Speaker 6: I know you're married, I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: You might have a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: Well not, well I'm not married anymore.
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  Speaker 5: But all right, well you've been mad, I've been married.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm over too all white. But both of
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  Speaker 6: them are fantastic people, have three amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Kids with.
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  Speaker 5: Well doing is actually share an age?
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  Speaker 6: I can't, but I would say, like in a relationship, right,
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  Speaker 6: if a topic comes up with the other person.
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  Speaker 5: That you have to resort the same. You know what,
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  Speaker 5: let's not talk about that, but let's see that out right,
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  Speaker 5: and you guys are probably.
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  Speaker 6: Dead in the long line if there's something you can't
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  Speaker 6: talk about.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like.
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  Speaker 6: The media, the mainstream media, the legacy media, they want
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that our conversations between red people and
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  Speaker 6: blue people and purple people they get dead to at
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  Speaker 6: let's not talk to that anymore because.
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  Speaker 5: They want to destroy those relationships.
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  Speaker 6: They don't want us to go out and commits.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit and have a few drinks and say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, I never really thought about it that way, Jen,
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  Speaker 5: But I see your point of view as a Democrat,
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  Speaker 5: and I know you're not a craft but you know what, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, they don't want us to meet in the middle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they want us to be.
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  Speaker 4: Napoleon.
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  Speaker 5: I would say.
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  Speaker 6: Divided is a is a word that's used, but I
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  Speaker 6: would say segregated.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They want to.
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  Speaker 6: They want to put us quarantine, stay away from each other.
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  Speaker 5: Don't listen to that ship, and don't let them hear yours.
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  Speaker 4: And they want to break up the family because it's
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  Speaker 4: easy for them to take control.
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  Speaker 6: Well in the UH in the communist manifesto which Antifa
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  Speaker 6: and Black Lives Matter followed, and they were outwardly honest
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  Speaker 6: about it, one of the top things is to break
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  Speaker 6: up the nuclear family.
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  Speaker 5: They don't like the nuclear family isn't way into them,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And I'm half a Tinian.
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  Speaker 6: I got two right off the boat Italian grandfathers, and
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  Speaker 6: I got to right off the boat Irish.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm Italian. In Irish, I can drink with
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  Speaker 5: the best.
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  Speaker 4: The best, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yah, But I'm just saying I'm proud of both. I
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  Speaker 6: always say, you know, people, you know you're illustrious.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: Colo's also said that my name sounded like a mob nickname,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Johnny Tobacco you know, is
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  Speaker 6: that a real name is the name, but what.
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  Speaker 4: Is your tobacco? That's your real Yeah? I mean no,
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  Speaker 4: it's not.
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  Speaker 5: My suits. What hell is my name in the suit?
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  Speaker 5: My my name is in this suit somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: But that's your real tobacco.
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  Speaker 5: It sounds like, look do you can you see that?
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  Speaker 5: Don't know?
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  Speaker 4: You know, but you could just put it in the.
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  Speaker 5: You Okay, so you you want to see my drivers? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: here we go. I want to Yeah, there's my fastball card.
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  Speaker 5: That's even better than my dressing.
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  Speaker 4: They got you and paid for the ship.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever. It's good to have when you're abroad.
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  Speaker 6: You know, broad that the one word broad I don't want.
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  Speaker 5: To say, is that good? You want that? You want that?
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  Speaker 5: You want? You want to zoom.
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  Speaker 6: I don't give out my dress and myself secret. But
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  Speaker 6: now listen, my name is John Tobacco.
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  Speaker 5: I'm proud of it. But what I was saying, I'm iverson.
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  Speaker 6: I always say I got the oh at the end
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  Speaker 6: instead of the beginning. Yeah, but a lot of people say, oh,
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  Speaker 6: this guy, and this is how I dress. Working on
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  Speaker 6: Wall Street for thirty years, a Whippins stripe suits. I
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  Speaker 6: will window pain, you know, I like to get dressed.
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  Speaker 6: I leave my house in the morning, I get dressed,
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  Speaker 6: I fix my hand, I shave, and then I go boom,
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna go out and do something good today. Like
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  Speaker 6: I feel like kids these days don't even know how
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  Speaker 6: to get dressed. I got that bangs down to it.
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  Speaker 6: It knows and even my son, he's nineteen. I go,
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  Speaker 6: get ahead, cut. I want to see your eyebrows. You
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  Speaker 6: want to wear this cloth, just hang it down to you.
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  Speaker 6: It's downfit your eyebrows.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, cut, But.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you feel like that? Also happened after COVID.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody was home during during COVID and working from home,
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  Speaker 7: and everybody lost that want to go to go into
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  Speaker 7: the office, to go to work, to get dressed, to
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  Speaker 7: go mingle with with with co oppers. That's that that
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  Speaker 7: I feel affected the society so badly.
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  Speaker 6: Also part of the communist manifesto the people to rely
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  Speaker 6: on government, right, they want you to stay home, delays
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  Speaker 6: and do whatever the government says so that you check
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  Speaker 6: cashes every month. So I think, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 6: want to go crazy because I love kats and pudding.
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  Speaker 5: There it's not all about politics.
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  Speaker 7: But but it's okay it's we're talking about social issues.
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  Speaker 7: But I agree with that, and I think that we're
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  Speaker 7: more alike all of us that we're dislike, and what
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  Speaker 7: the government's trying to do would be like board's out
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  Speaker 7: our differences more than are likenesses.
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  Speaker 4: You know, because I.
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  Speaker 7: Consider myself but I don't like to talk about my
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  Speaker 7: political background.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't because I have a business. But I
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  Speaker 4: consider myself in the middle. I consider myself in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: I'm for common sense. I'm for somebody speaking the truth.
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  Speaker 4: I'm for facts.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not for you know, I'm not I'm not for
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  Speaker 7: craziness all the way to the left, and I'm not
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  Speaker 7: for craziness right people.
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  Speaker 5: I have a whole I think most of America are perfect.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with that if you just sat down people
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  Speaker 6: who had the balls to say how they really feel.
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  Speaker 5: I think most.
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  Speaker 10: People are like you know, onlike simple issues like not simple,
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  Speaker 10: but you know, in simple like choice and woman's reproductive health,
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  Speaker 10: and like spoke in.
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  Speaker 6: Marijuana, being gay or even being trained.
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  Speaker 4: In Hey, you know, I'm fifty six years old.
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  Speaker 5: I know plenty of trained gender guys or girls, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Who when people literally went both.
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  Speaker 6: Ways but you know, I know people overdy is that
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  Speaker 6: decided that's what they are, right. And in my neighborhood
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  Speaker 6: in Stanton Island, the kids that were a little faggy
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  Speaker 6: and the kids that were like dressing up like girls
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  Speaker 6: when we know they were boys.
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  Speaker 5: When the kids from.
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  Speaker 6: The other neighborhood came around and bullied them, we chased
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  Speaker 6: their asses out of our town, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 6: Like there was a different time we had. I grew
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  Speaker 6: up in a white area of Stanton Island, in middle
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  Speaker 6: class areas that but we had black kids, we have
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  Speaker 6: Spanish kids, we had Chinese kids, and.
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  Speaker 5: All click was everyone. Yeah, we played stickball, we played
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  Speaker 5: so you know what I mean. And yeah, but what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, we.
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  Speaker 4: Would were helping. We would we would kick the ship.
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  Speaker 6: Out of the guys from the other neighborhood if they
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  Speaker 6: picked on wanted a wanted the nerdy you know, like
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  Speaker 6: little bit of fairy kids or something. We'd go after
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  Speaker 6: them to beat their ass in. You know, we would
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  Speaker 6: stick up for those kids.
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  Speaker 5: So my mind is, you know, my my parents, we're
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  Speaker 5: very connected to the community.
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  Speaker 6: My mom runs a nonprofital The World of Women for
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  Speaker 6: like twenty five years, which he founded.
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  Speaker 5: My dad was a cop who was the president of the
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  Speaker 5: local litera league, president of the local pev football league.
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  Speaker 5: And they told us, listen, we're all the freaking same.
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  Speaker 4: And we're all born alone with and we dialogue.
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  Speaker 5: We're blessed.
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  Speaker 6: So everything you do that brings you in more blessings.
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  Speaker 6: Make sure to get back to the community. So I
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  Speaker 6: kind of want to get tears of my ass because
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  Speaker 6: my father's passed.
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  Speaker 5: But my father was a tough ass cop.
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  Speaker 6: But he always used to tell us, like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: peewee football, you got like some black kids on the
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  Speaker 6: team and stuff.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: They just throw the water bottles out there on a
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: time out, and you know, when you're young, you're like, oh,
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: can I drink out of that water bottle?
• 17:48
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: My father said, hey, when that water comes out there,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: you drink it. You guys are all the same. Just
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: shut up, you know what I mean. So, and cops
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: is sometimes.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Predisposed to, you know, not love the naughty people.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: But my father went out of his way to tell
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: us that, hey, we're all the same India, And thankfully
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: I grew up. I'm blessed that he never wanted He didn't.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Want you to be a coup.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Was he let's he?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Let's he?
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: He wasn't a upset that you went I actually took.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I really wanted to be like my dad. He's my
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: idol in life, and I wanted to be like him.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: I actually took the cops test when I was like nineteen,
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: when I was in college and Saint John's University. And
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: then my father was like, all right, trust me, I
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: tell you that's not what you want to do. This
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: job and this is like, you know, thirty seven years ago.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: My father was like, the job ain't the same. You
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: don't want to be a cop.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: So that was short of them.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: But I thought about it because I always idolized my
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: father and all his friends. And I used to be
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: the back boy for the NYPD softball team when.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I used to play against the fire Department.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Can I tell you once?
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: So my follow was in the sixth precinct in the village, Okay,
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: and they had the precinct had to kill a softball team, right,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: and there was a gay softball league right down.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: There in the park right in the village and everything.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: And all these teams and they had some great plays,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: like former college players or women.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: But they were like lesbians and men, but they were
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: like gay.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: And every year they used to have a game with
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: the guy the cops from the Precinct against the all
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: star team from the Gay League, right, And I'll never
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: forget this.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I talked about this at the Blue Lives Matter at dinner, and.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: The Precinct used to put flyers out that said come
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: to the park on Saturday, Cops versus clears. That's what
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: the game was gold the cops versus the queers. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: all the gay bars had these play plans dirty in
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: their windows and there was a whole.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Thing and they would play.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: They would have a great game, a great game, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: then afterwards they would go I'll never forget bad Lands ever.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Here of bad Lands in the village.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: It's like so low down dirty as the bar, like
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: you know, and all the cops and all the queers
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: used to go to bad Lands and drink beers, pretzels,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: hang out, and it was always like that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Could never happen today.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: The game to be called the Cops Queers, but everyone
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: will go crazy, you know what I mean.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: So well, they wouldn't want they don't they wouldn't want
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: them to try to get one.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And they want to separate. They would want to separate them,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: the cops a bed.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: You know, that's what I mean.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: Community doesn't like them or doesn't or they're prejudice or
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: whatever it is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: So that's what happens.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: And it's funny that we've we've went backwards instead of forward,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: and and and it's not.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Not because of the people. It's because of the.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Media did that and then and they and they implanting
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: it on people on people on people.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I feel like that that's that's what's going on.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: You know that they're they're the ones who are who
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: are you know, perpetuating you know, Morgan Freeman, I was
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: watching I don't know if you saw the interview with him,
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: and he was the guy's the guys you're seeing and
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: he was interviewing was like talking about racism.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: And he goes, well, how do we stop this? He
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: stop talking about it? He goes, Jesus, I'm a man,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: you're a man, He says, stop talking about it. You're
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: perpetuating it. What are you doing here?
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: And it's so true, you know, And and I feel
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: also and every everybody who've come to this country.
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: Had had a hot time coming here. It wasn't easy
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: for anybody. It wasn't easy for Italians. It wasn't easy
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: for Irish. It wasn't easy for anybody who came over here.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: You know, I nobody. It was easy for my father.
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: I'm second generation in America. You lived in tenements.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: He had no running water. It was the lower Lower.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: East Side, I mean, you know, and you know what,
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: he was proud. Then he became an American and he
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: went for about the war before Korean War, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: and he was built in a generation.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: He went from having nothing in the family or nothing when.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: They came here, to successful children that had a successful business.
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: So it's who doesn't want the American dream?
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: And it is possible for people they're trying, they're want
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: to kill the American dream.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: My grandfather, Angelo Archipoli, immigrated year from from Italy, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: my old family and myself grew up on the Lower
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: East so I joined grew up with Nikoboca bility, which
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: was you know, all Italians and Irish.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: People twelve about four.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, I never felt poor, you know
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: what I mean. Like even my grandfather was in the
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Printer's Union. My dad was in a policeman.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean, my mom was a private
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: investigator and then she had like a side party business.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: So even you know, I'm third generation, I guess, you know.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: But my grandfather, I always felt like we're in the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: better half of the people that were even in our
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: class because my grandfather was smart.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: He saved, he was it was responsible, you know what
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: So I don't know, I never felt for you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: some people go on and say, wow, we had one
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: can of beans for a time.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: To go to school.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I walked to school uphill both tho.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I'm blessed.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: Me, my two brothers, and all the siblings and children
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: that we spawned since then were blessed.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: You know. My grandparents and my parents did that for us.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the way I mean, I feel like that
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: we're blessed to my father, you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Know, always wanted us to a have an education. He
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: never went to school, so it was a big deal
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: for having Foster College and we all did, and we did.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I was the first kid in my family to go
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: to college. I went to Saint John. I'm a red storm.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: I used to be a red Man, but ye know
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: that became politically in correct.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Now I'm a red storm.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: But what you did you play Did you play spats On?
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: I played in high school, I played football and hockey,
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: But in college I pretty much.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Worked working on Wall Street in nineteen eighty seven, wow
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: in school.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: So every time I think of my todays, I've been
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: boarding Gecko, I think of that. I know, do you
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: miss Wall Street? You're still there?
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: But no thing is that's my full time. The Newsmax
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: thing is like.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so how do you like? So how did
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: you get involved with the newsbacks like how did this? No?
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I've been on Wall Street most of my life,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: and you know, my particular area of the market is
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: kind of nuanced. And CNBC reached out to me one time,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: like in two thousand and.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Five, and they were like, hey, we need a guy who.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: I knew, someone there who could talk about this, this, that,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, all right whatever.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I was actually.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Hosting a community television show and standing down with sometimes
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: w ABC favorite.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, right, fine, I could I
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: could do. I think I just TV.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: I started going on CNBC as a business contributor right
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: and started doing well, and I was not liberal enough
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: for them, so I booked up with Fox Business and
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: then it was on Fox News for like seven years
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: and then Chris Ruddy's News Bank, so I started to
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: bump up and they just getting started in you know, fifteen, and.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Chris Rody said, hey, I will give you, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: if you're.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: A contributor, I'll give you a shot to having one show,
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: which they were even unknown then.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, well now they're big now they but I.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Left Fox to go to Newsman. You know, since think
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: and it's a good.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: It's a good, it's a it's a big network now.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people have.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: The it's got I think we're making an impact on
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Fox's ratings. We're one of the only capables networks who's
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: rating whose ratings and Hodiens are.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Going up and you know, people you ain't.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Ready capable most yeah, you know what I mean.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: So news Max and you know they can't creative.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: They're streaming stuff now and you know, to me, I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: in it to win. And what do you want to
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: do on Saturday nights at ten o'clock. I'm on Sunday
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: nights at eleven thirty and I do you know five
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: or six kids throwing the week on different stuff.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: You go into the studio and do you do it
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: from all.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: No, my wise, guys, show me take the Sparks Steakhouse.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Oh that's so cool.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Able to do that?
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: All love that on Wednesdays and there on Saturday.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Yes, and you do and so so what so I
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: know you would have talked about also about you interested in.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: Maybe we're talking about the beauty business that you might
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: be interested in.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, Well look I'm working on.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I'm working on my own line of hair products.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: We know secret that I got some wop of products
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: about to come out. This may look like, this may
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: look like I have a decent amount of hair, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I don't. But TV magic is in play, and I've
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: learned things over.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: The years from being on TV that you know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Not every guy wants to put all this hair product
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: in his hair every day, but if you don't a
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: wedding or reunion, in a party, you want to look
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: super good. I'm coming out with you know, the way
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: guys could easily you know, soup themselves something.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: But but that's okay, And I think guys now today
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: are doing more for themselves like women. I know we
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: had the discussion about women how they're like, do some
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: of them get crazy with and I'm in the beauty business,
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: what the lips and is?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: And then that I know I have to charm people away.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Believe it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: I see their lips are out past and those they
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: got the Brazilian butt lift, you know what I mean.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: I knew they years ago they had a flat ass.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Now their three feet, you know, they got junkers and
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: trump the lips, fastshole. And then all of a sudden
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: like what you know, and like.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't do anything.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: And now then you get that from squads about all
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: my brethren, and I would say, well, but a lot
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: of guys now, like I know guys that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Are on epic, Yeah, and they'll lose the weight.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: And then I hear like from these little clicks of
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: chicks with that I hang out with that, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: they said, oh he's on I was at that, He's
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: on Ozama.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, so are you no.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Number one? They should have to wear like the skull Atletto.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: They should have to wear a pin with the one
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: it like.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: But like they're knocking guys for being on exam. Their
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: lips are out, the hear it, butts are out, the
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: the bras are out the here right, But look, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: think men have just as much right to soup up
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: their appearance with their lips out. And I'm joking around,
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: but if they feel good with their lips out and the.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Outs I mean, for me as a person who's injecting,
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: I don't want somebody to walk out looking like that,
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: because that's why I work, you know, I kind of
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: tell people this is good enough, this looks good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I give them a little and I want to give you.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, when you look at this
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: train wreck right what do you see? Do you think
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I need a little give me, give me like a quick,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: give me a quick console, and then I'll come see you.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Well if I if you like, if I like your
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: console right now, I'll consider it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know what would you do to me?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: What I well, I don't like to do a lot
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: on guys. When I say to guys, we do brotox
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: botox protos. So it's lighter, and.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: If you're gonna still have some movement, it's gonna be
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: swafter like the lines on the far a little bit
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: around the eyes, but it's gonna look natural. You're not
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: gonna look like the wind blow like John Riffer is.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: You're gonna look nice and just a.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Little telling me you want to take care of the line.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, you want to take care of.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: The crows on the side. That's all you see. Maybe
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: maybe you want to al right here and just a.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Little swapping it, and I think that will look great
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: on you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm willing to I'm will think about how about
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: this my show wise, guys, I'm completely open with my audience.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: They know I have replacements, they know that I'm somewhat
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: out of shape, but I've got fast thing.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: You know I'm saying. But I'm honest, audience, hop out.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: If I come for a consolation, I bring my camera, love,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: give me the console.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: And then if I decided to do it, we we
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: record it and then I show my audience from before,
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: and then your.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Journey, your botops journey, your brot, my.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Pros journey might stop that podcast, my bro I love it.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I think it would be great.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I'm going to do it. I mean, you will set
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: it up. I love, I love. I'd love to see
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: what you think could make the better.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And just a little that's it, just a little refreshed.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You just I know we gotta go. You just define
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: is a little is.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: A little spring on. It's just a little refresh on.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: So somebody looks at you and did you have a
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: good sleep, did you go on vacation? That is that's it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Just somebody will look at you. They won't know what
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: you did, but they like look good.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: They don't know why they you know, sleep could be
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: just you know, just not work, maybe taking a vacation.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: I'm willing to come in console and I have a
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  Speaker 6: feeling that everybody is going to come.
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  Speaker 5: I have a feeling you're going to talk to Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Media and I know you're going to say, give myself security. Listen,
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  Speaker 6: you can find me on Twitter at Johnny Tobacco.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: I'm out there. If you go to my Twitter, you'll
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  Speaker 5: figure out everything else I'm not. I'm not here. If
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  Speaker 5: shameless rich this promotion. I came to as your friend.
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  Speaker 5: I love to be part of your show and if
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: anyone out there learned anything from.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: A show from me, and I love that you came
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: here today to spend a little time with me.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I know that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: By the way, my girlfriend was like, what you're.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Driving into Manhattan to be on a girl who does
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: botox podcast.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: And I'm like yeah, and she's like, why why didn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: you zoom it? Why are you driving?
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: He said, up already, I'm driving because she's my friend
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: and she Sid's friend, and I got other meetings that
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: I set up because we scheduled it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I so appreciate she's supportive. I'm sure.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: I'm sure she is. If she's with you, she's a
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  Speaker 7: supportable woman. She's supportable.
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  Speaker 5: You do.
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  Speaker 6: If you want to come in with the former bl
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  Speaker 6: who loves boxes, so I can never say any of
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• 33:55
  Speaker 4: She's got you. Well, I'm so glad you came on
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: my show today. She ate it and I love to
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  Speaker 4: have you back again.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited to be on.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: As you knowed you last Monday I said one time
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: today You're like, no, Johnny, that's the next guy, Okay, because.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: I thought I told you.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: I didn't want to miss it. My schedule gets so
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: crazy sometimes and I just had Monday.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad you came, and I'm glad you're being
• 34:21
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  Speaker 7: school Italian Cafe and the heart of ridgual Quans.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: You want to try a Dulce Being Cafe. They serve
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: the best espresso cappuccino a lot to day. You gotta
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: come by the way Johnny's great panie. I would love
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: for you too.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: We're gonna do We're gonna have Johnny Tobacco your wise
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: guys from there, so you come get to the lotto
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: delicious delicious canolage from Big John's. You're gonna love Adultchate
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: Being Cafe. Everybody, have a great day, as said Pep
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