Latest / Hell and Gone: Murder Line / Hell and Gone Murder Line: Shannon Lee Collins Update
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- 0:08Speaker 1: School of Humans.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Earlier this year, we covered the case of Shannon Lee Collins,
- 0:16Speaker 2: a forty eight year old veteran who vanished without a
- 0:19Speaker 2: trace from his family home in Pottsville, Arkansas. Shannon had
- 0:23Speaker 2: been married to his wife, Teresa for over twenty years.
- 0:26Speaker 2: They had a son named Josh together, who also lived
- 0:29Speaker 2: in the home. Teresa also had a daughter named Brittany
- 0:33Speaker 2: from a previous relationship. Shannon had helped raise Brittany since
- 0:36Speaker 2: she was a little girl. I am thrilled to report
- 0:39Speaker 2: we have a major update in this case because federal
- 0:42Speaker 2: fraud charges have been filed against Shannon's wife, Teresa and
- 0:45Speaker 2: her daughter Brittany. We talked to Shannon's brother, Blake, who
- 0:49Speaker 2: has been working tirelessly ever since his brother disappeared and
- 0:53Speaker 2: trying to do anything he can to get justice and
- 0:55Speaker 2: get answers. They also have a younger sister named Holly.
- 1:00Speaker 2: After Shannon disappeared, Blake claimed that Shannon's wife, Teresa misled
- 1:05Speaker 2: their fan and told them that she had been talking
- 1:08Speaker 2: to Shannon when she hadn't. He claimed Teresa had conflicting
- 1:12Speaker 2: stories about when and how Shannon supposedly left his home
- 1:16Speaker 2: wearing just the clothes on his back. And not only that,
- 1:19Speaker 2: Blake claimed that Teresa stole Shannon's VA money over thirty
- 1:23Speaker 2: two thousand dollars that had been deposited into their joint
- 1:26Speaker 2: account since Shannon went missing. We talked to Blake about
- 1:29Speaker 2: what's going on now with those fraud charges, the explosive
- 1:33Speaker 2: claims that had been made in that lawsuit, and also
- 1:35Speaker 2: what could happen with potential other charges now that the
- 1:39Speaker 2: Feds have followed the money and uncovered the fraud, could
- 1:42Speaker 2: murder charges come next. I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past
- 1:47Speaker 2: five years of making my true crime podcast, Telling Gone,
- 1:50Speaker 2: I've learned that there is no such thing as a
- 1:52Speaker 2: small town where murder never happens. I've received hundreds of
- 1:57Speaker 2: messages from people all around the country asking for help
- 2:00Speaker 2: with an unsolved murder that's affected them, their families, and
- 2:03Speaker 2: their communities. If you have case you'd like me and
- 2:06Speaker 2: my team to look into, you can reach out to
- 2:08Speaker 2: us at our Helen Gone Murder Line at six seven
- 2:11Speaker 2: eight seven four four six one four five. That's six
- 2:15Speaker 2: seven eight seven four four six one four five. This
- 2:19Speaker 2: is Helen Gone Murder Line. I'm just gonna give you
- 2:54Speaker 2: a brief recap of the case. If you want to
- 2:56Speaker 2: hear all the details of the work we did on
- 2:59Speaker 2: Shannon's disappearance, you can go back and check out the
- 3:02Speaker 2: past episodes. Shannon had been in the military for twenty
- 3:08Speaker 2: four years. He was in the Army National Guard, and
- 3:11Speaker 2: then due to an injury, he was eligible to receive
- 3:14Speaker 2: VA disability benefits. Blake told us that Shannon was in
- 3:18Speaker 2: constant contact with his family, and he specifically mentioned his
- 3:23Speaker 2: brother was a talker, not really a texter. He liked
- 3:26Speaker 2: to call his family. He said there had been a
- 3:29Speaker 2: recent minor disagreement between Shannon and Shannon's parents because remember
- 3:35Speaker 2: this was during COVID when everything was in lockdown. They
- 3:38Speaker 2: are older and not in great health. Blake said Shannon
- 3:42Speaker 2: was upset when his parents said they could not attend
- 3:45Speaker 2: Shannon's stepdaughter's wedding they didn't feel comfortable traveling. But a
- 3:49Speaker 2: few weeks later things were pretty much back to normal.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Blake and Holly were still talking to and texting their brother.
- 3:56Speaker 2: The last time they heard from him was at the
- 3:58Speaker 2: end of February twenty twenty one. So then came that
- 4:02Speaker 2: night in March, when Shannon was away on a work
- 4:04Speaker 2: trip in Tennessee, came home, and since then no one
- 4:08Speaker 2: ever heard from him again. When they didn't hear from
- 4:10Speaker 2: him for months, Shannon's parents and the rest of his
- 4:13Speaker 2: family started getting worried. There was an additional complication we mentioned.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Shannon had told his family that he was ending his
- 4:22Speaker 2: marriage with Teresa and that he had a girlfriend.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Shannon said Teresa.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Knew about his girlfriend and about his plans to end
- 4:29Speaker 2: the marriage. So at first, when Shannon disappeared, his family
- 4:36Speaker 2: told themselves maybe he was just taking a breather. They
- 4:39Speaker 2: knew he was planning on ending his marriage. When Shannon's
- 4:42Speaker 2: family couldn't get a hold of him, of course, they
- 4:44Speaker 2: called Teresa, and when they would ask Teresa about Shannon,
- 4:49Speaker 2: she would tell them that he just wasn't around then,
- 4:52Speaker 2: he couldn't talk. Then. At first they believed her, but
- 4:55Speaker 2: after a while they started to ask a lot more
- 4:57Speaker 2: questions about exactly what happened. On March eleventh, twenty twenty one,
- 5:03Speaker 2: after all this went down, police talk to Blake, He's
- 5:07Speaker 2: been able to piece together from what he learned from
- 5:09Speaker 2: police and what he's done on his own his own
- 5:11Speaker 2: investigating some facts. Electronic daya verified Shannon did return from
- 5:17Speaker 2: that work trip to Tennessee. He flew into the Little
- 5:20Speaker 2: Rock Airport, drove home, and entered his house at around
- 5:23Speaker 2: ten pm. Shannon, his son, and his wife, Teresa were
- 5:28Speaker 2: all in the home when he got back. Shannon's stepdaughter
- 5:31Speaker 2: Brittany came to the residence the next morning. On that morning,
- 5:35Speaker 2: Shannon was scheduled to go out for another job, but
- 5:37Speaker 2: he never showed up. Eventually, after a few weeks of
- 5:41Speaker 2: them asking what was going on with Shannon, Teresa told
- 5:44Speaker 2: Blake that Shannon had left her.
- 5:46Speaker 1: She said he just walked out.
- 5:49Speaker 2: She told Shannon's sister Holly something similar, saying that Shannon
- 5:52Speaker 2: had walked away from the family. She told them that
- 5:57Speaker 2: Shannon had literally left on foot, didn't even take his
- 6:00Speaker 2: own car. By now, Blake said, Teresa was telling everyone
- 6:04Speaker 2: what seemed to be a different story. One day, she
- 6:07Speaker 2: would say Shannon was on pain medications and may have
- 6:10Speaker 2: checked himself into a hospital, while another story that came
- 6:13Speaker 2: out later had Teresa saying that he was going to
- 6:16Speaker 2: work on an overseas contract. None of it made any sense,
- 6:21Speaker 2: and during all this time no one reported Shannon Collins missing.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Blake finally reported him missing on November thirtieth, twenty twenty one,
- 6:31Speaker 2: and by now he's publicly calling out Teresa. He's asking
- 6:34Speaker 2: why it took nine months to report someone missing. Shannon's wife,
- 6:39Speaker 2: Teresa told police and Blake that Shannon had gotten a
- 6:43Speaker 2: new cell phone number. This was a different phone from
- 6:46Speaker 2: the one that he'd had for the past twenty years.
- 6:49Speaker 2: We talked about how police discovered that the person who
- 6:53Speaker 2: bought the new cell phone, the one that Shannon was
- 6:55Speaker 2: supposedly texting from, was Teresa. Blake's theory was that it
- 7:00Speaker 2: was Teresa sending messages from that phone posing as Shannon.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Blake told us that police knew Teresa had bought the phone,
- 7:10Speaker 2: She had shown the police text messages from the phone,
- 7:13Speaker 2: and that it had to be someone in the house
- 7:15Speaker 2: who was sending those text messages. Police had a lot
- 7:19Speaker 2: of those messages, and by the way, police knew where.
- 7:22Speaker 1: The phone was.
- 7:22Speaker 2: They knew that that phone that was supposedly Shannon texting
- 7:25Speaker 2: was in the Pottsville area from March of twenty twenty
- 7:29Speaker 2: one through November of twenty twenty one. Then, once Shannon
- 7:32Speaker 2: was reported missing by his family, the phone suddenly goes dead, silent,
- 7:37Speaker 2: No one gets text from that phone ever again. Meanwhile,
- 7:42Speaker 2: Teresa seemed to be sticking to her story. She told
- 7:45Speaker 2: the police that she and Shannon went to bed that night.
- 7:48Speaker 2: On the night he came home, everything was normal, and
- 7:50Speaker 2: at some point he left home and did not come back.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Blake and the rest of Shannon's family insisted he would
- 7:56Speaker 2: have never left everything that he had behind. And by
- 8:00Speaker 2: the way, one of the biggest pieces of evidence in
- 8:02Speaker 2: this case was the money, because, in addition to Shannon
- 8:06Speaker 2: not being the type of person who would leave his
- 8:09Speaker 2: entire family in his entire life, Teresa was asking everyone
- 8:12Speaker 2: to believe that he would walk away from his VA
- 8:15Speaker 2: disability payments more than three thousand dollars a month. Blake
- 8:18Speaker 2: said that he wanted to see Teresa brought to court
- 8:23Speaker 2: and charge with his brother's death, but in the meantime,
- 8:26Speaker 2: his plan was to follow the money. We said we
- 8:29Speaker 2: would do everything that we could to help him get answers.
- 8:32Speaker 2: The new case is called US versus Teresa Collins and
- 8:35Speaker 2: Britney Collins, Shannon's wife and stepdaughter, and according to the lawsuit,
- 8:40Speaker 2: Shannon started receiving the disability compensation via payments on May
- 8:44Speaker 2: twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, then honor, about March eleventh, twenty
- 8:49Speaker 2: twenty one, Shannon Collins traveled from Tennessee to his residence
- 8:52Speaker 2: in Pottsville, Arkansas, and from that day quote, Shannon Collins
- 8:57Speaker 2: has had no contact with his immediate family, has not
- 9:00Speaker 2: attended any physicians appointments, and has not opened or used
- 9:04Speaker 2: any financial account end quote. The lawsuit also states during
- 9:09Speaker 2: that same time period, from March of twenty twenty one
- 9:12Speaker 2: through December twenty twenty one, a total of thirty two thousand,
- 9:16Speaker 2: four hundred and four dollars and forty nine cents and
- 9:19Speaker 2: VA disability payments were deposited into a joint bank account
- 9:23Speaker 2: that was in Shannon and Teresa's names, So this was
- 9:26Speaker 2: one that Teresa had access to. And further, if the
- 9:30Speaker 2: VA had known that Shannon Collins was deceased, it would
- 9:33Speaker 2: not have paid that money. Blake mentioned the last time
- 9:37Speaker 2: we talked to him that even if Shannon wanted to
- 9:40Speaker 2: walk away from his marriage, it would be insanity to
- 9:43Speaker 2: walk away from that money and leave it in an
- 9:44Speaker 2: account where his strange wife could access all of it.
- 9:47Speaker 2: All Shannon would have had to do to access his
- 9:49Speaker 2: money is walk into a financial institution produce his ID
- 9:53Speaker 2: and he could have accessed his money, but he didn't.
- 9:57Speaker 2: The lawsuit alleges that Teresa and Britney quote voluntarily and
- 10:01Speaker 2: intentionally conspired with each other to commit wirefraud end quote.
- 10:04Speaker 2: And so now we have a definite timeline for that phone.
- 10:08Speaker 2: It alleges that on March twelfth, twenty twenty one, Teresa
- 10:11Speaker 2: called AT and T she wanted to unlock the cell
- 10:14Speaker 2: phone that Shannon used. Now we're talking about his regular
- 10:17Speaker 2: old cell phone number, the one he used for the
- 10:19Speaker 2: past twenty years, but apparently Teresa couldn't unlock it. Then
- 10:25Speaker 2: the very next day, on March thirteenth, she withdrew two
- 10:27Speaker 2: hundred dollars in cash and purchased a cell phone with
- 10:31Speaker 2: that cash from a Walmart in Dardanell, Arkansas. Now, remember
- 10:35Speaker 2: Blake walked us through all this. He told us Teresa
- 10:38Speaker 2: bought a new phone and then tried to tell everybody
- 10:41Speaker 2: Shannon had changed his number. So the lawsuit goes into that.
- 10:45Speaker 2: It says from that day, from March thirteenth through November
- 10:48Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, when Shannon was reported.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Missing, Teresa used that new cell phone.
- 10:54Speaker 2: She used it to send text messages, that she claimed
- 10:57Speaker 2: were coming from Shannon, including one stating, thank you for
- 11:01Speaker 2: talking with me today. I picked up a cheap phone
- 11:04Speaker 2: till I get mine back. This is my temporary number.
- 11:08Speaker 2: On April seventh, Teresa falsely told Shannon's sister that Shannon
- 11:13Speaker 2: was working on building his business so he was traveling. Then,
- 11:16Speaker 2: on April sixteenth, Teresa sent another text message from the
- 11:20Speaker 2: new phone, again pretending to be Shannon. She sent that
- 11:24Speaker 2: message to her son. The message falsely said that Shannon
- 11:28Speaker 2: was quote in a VA program. She also sent a
- 11:32Speaker 2: text message from that fake phone the new phone to
- 11:36Speaker 2: her phone, stating, quote, I have not needed to pull
- 11:39Speaker 2: anything out of our joint accounts. I know you will
- 11:41Speaker 2: spend wisely so you'll be able to keep the bills paid.
- 11:44Speaker 2: I trust you and know you want to keep the
- 11:46Speaker 2: house for our son at least until he leaves next year.
- 11:50Speaker 2: We will talk more about that later end quote. So
- 11:56Speaker 2: this completely backs up what Blake told us in our
- 11:58Speaker 2: previous episodes.
- 12:00Speaker 1: It seems as.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Though Teresa was trying to cover her tracks, trying to
- 12:04Speaker 2: make it seem like there was reason why Shannon would
- 12:06Speaker 2: not access his own money, and making it appear as
- 12:09Speaker 2: though Shannon left voluntarily. In May, Teresa told Shannon's sister
- 12:14Speaker 2: that the kids were talking to Shannon regularly, that he
- 12:17Speaker 2: was texting them, which of course was also not true.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Of course, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and we'll
- 12:23Speaker 2: have to see what happens with these charges.
- 12:25Speaker 1: But if Teresa's story.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Was true, if Shannon left voluntarily, why would she buy
- 12:31Speaker 2: a new phone and pretend to be her own missing husband.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Then on May.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, Teresa sent another text message
- 12:40Speaker 2: to her own phone from the new phone which she
- 12:43Speaker 2: had bought, pretending that it was Shannon's new number. It
- 12:46Speaker 2: read quote, I'm thinking of signing up for a two
- 12:49Speaker 2: year contract to work overseas as a contractor. I would
- 12:52Speaker 2: be gone the entire two years and maybe longer. I
- 12:55Speaker 2: plan on leaving the center that I am at in July.
- 12:57Speaker 2: I would leave in August. If I'm approved to go,
- 12:59Speaker 2: I will leave the money coming to the bank like
- 13:01Speaker 2: it is now, but I will keep all the contract
- 13:03Speaker 2: money so that way we will both be okay.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Again.
- 13:08Speaker 2: This completely points to this pattern of deception, her inventing
- 13:12Speaker 2: reasons why Shannon would not be accessing his own money,
- 13:16Speaker 2: trying to keep the family placated so she can keep
- 13:18Speaker 2: that money train rolling. She continued throughout the summer to
- 13:23Speaker 2: lie to Shannon's family to tell them that she was
- 13:26Speaker 2: communicating with him, that he had this new phone, which,
- 13:28Speaker 2: of course she knew that she had bought herself at Walmart.
- 13:32Speaker 2: On November thirtieth, twenty twenty one, after Shannon's family reported
- 13:36Speaker 2: him missing, police interviewed Teresa Collins, and during that interview,
- 13:42Speaker 2: she told them she had been communicating with Shannon through
- 13:46Speaker 2: this new phone number, that Shannon had told her he
- 13:49Speaker 2: hitched a ride and accidentally left his cell phone in
- 13:52Speaker 2: a truck, that he had gotten this new phone, and
- 13:55Speaker 2: that he told her in a phone call that he
- 13:57Speaker 2: was working in Mexico. Now, of course, this is the
- 13:59Speaker 2: complete opposite of what he had allegedly texted her, which
- 14:04Speaker 2: was that he was at some point kind of va
- 14:06Speaker 2: center or in a hospital. She just kept coming up
- 14:09Speaker 2: with all these different stories and none of them were true. Now,
- 14:13Speaker 2: Britney comes into this a little later, because remember Blake
- 14:16Speaker 2: said Teresa told Shannon's family that he walked away from
- 14:20Speaker 2: the house. But then on December twenty eighth, twenty twenty one,
- 14:23Speaker 2: police talked to Brittany and Brittany apparently had an entirely
- 14:27Speaker 2: different story.
- 14:28Speaker 1: According to the lawsuit.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Britney told police that he had left their home with
- 14:33Speaker 2: a friend on March twelfth, which was completely different from
- 14:36Speaker 2: what her mother had said. She said that she had
- 14:39Speaker 2: talked to Shannon since then, that she had facetimed him
- 14:42Speaker 2: in October of twenty twenty one. Of course, this was
- 14:45Speaker 2: later proven to be completely false. So the bottom line
- 14:49Speaker 2: is from March twelfth, twenty twenty one, through January of
- 14:53Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This suit alleges that Teresa took out
- 14:58Speaker 2: the VA money that had been deposited in that joint
- 15:01Speaker 2: account for Shannon and used it. Teresa and Brittany are
- 15:07Speaker 2: facing a total of twenty one counts of fraud if convicted.
- 15:12Speaker 1: According to the federal sentencing.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Guidelines, each one of these charges could carry a maximum
- 15:17Speaker 2: penalty of thirty years in prison, so she could be
- 15:21Speaker 2: facing life in prison. There's still a lot of unanswered
- 15:26Speaker 2: questions in this case. Even though Shannon's family faced an
- 15:30Speaker 2: uphill battle and had a lot of frustrations along the way,
- 15:33Speaker 2: the work that Blake and his family have done in
- 15:37Speaker 2: keeping Shannon's story out there has been amazing, and while
- 15:41Speaker 2: it's great that the fraud charges have been filed, Blake
- 15:43Speaker 2: and the rest of Shannon's family, of course, ultimately want
- 15:47Speaker 2: to know what happened to Shannon and for those responsible
- 15:51Speaker 2: to face justice in criminal court. Blake says he will
- 15:55Speaker 2: continue to share updates on the Facebook page share Shannon's story.
- 15:59Speaker 2: On that page, he states that Brittany has retained counsel.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Teresa's trial date has been set for Monday, November eighteenth,
- 16:07Speaker 2: at nine thirty am. Helen Gone Murder Line is a
- 16:12Speaker 2: production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts. It's written
- 16:15Speaker 2: and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Special thanks for the research assistance provided by Amy Tubbs.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Music contributed by Ben Sale.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Executive producers of Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr, and LC Crowley.
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