Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Na'im Lynn Puts A Button On The Kevin Hart Roast Conversation
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day, Click up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done morning everybody. It's DJ Envy,
- 0:09Speaker 2: Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne and the guy we are the Breakfast
- 0:12Speaker 2: Club Laurla Roses here as well. We got a special guest.
- 0:15Speaker 1: In the building.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Indeed, comedian Naim Welcome brother was good up.
- 0:20Speaker 3: One thing that's constant conversation is the roaster Kevin Hart.
- 0:23Speaker 3: And the thing that people talk about other than the
- 0:25Speaker 3: BS is how great Naim?
- 0:28Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Now you did your thing. And
- 0:30Speaker 2: the one thing I loved is if you follow him
- 0:33Speaker 2: on Instagram, you kind of led up to what you
- 0:35Speaker 2: were doing, like documenting you trying jokes out, seeing what works,
- 0:38Speaker 2: seeing what didn't work. But my question to you was,
- 0:41Speaker 2: were there once a couple of things that you said,
- 0:42Speaker 2: now I'm not gonna do that's too far or was
- 0:44Speaker 2: there a too far when you came to writing jokes
- 0:46Speaker 2: going a cav Nah?
- 0:48Speaker 4: Now, everything I did was pretty much like what you saw.
- 0:51Speaker 4: I had to take out a couple of things because
- 0:52Speaker 4: of time, but it was nothing that was too far. Yeah.
- 0:56Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna throw my man under the bus like that.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Do you really feel like you know, forty five years
- 1:00Speaker 2: and he could have put you in a bunch of
- 1:01Speaker 2: movies and you've written like that come from your heart.
- 1:03Speaker 2: It was just like I felt that little bit like, yeah,
- 1:06Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:06Speaker 1: That man a long time.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I ain't really sitting now. I even known of the movies.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's been a narrative for a while.
- 1:11Speaker 4: People like to talk about that, you like, you know,
- 1:13Speaker 4: you let the chit chat get in your head and
- 1:16Speaker 4: all that. But I'm in that space now of gratitude.
- 1:19Speaker 4: I just focus on what he has done for me
- 1:21Speaker 4: instead of what he hasn't you know what I mean,
- 1:22Speaker 4: Like people get to decide what they want to do.
- 1:25Speaker 4: And the fact that I've been working with him for
- 1:27Speaker 4: all these years, and I mean he put me in
- 1:29Speaker 4: the roast. It's a lot of good stuff.
- 1:31Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:31Speaker 4: You know, you got to get it yourself too, So
- 1:33Speaker 4: it is what it is.
- 1:34Speaker 3: I always felt like you were the person that kept
- 1:38Speaker 3: everything I guess grounded in reality in that crew though.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like I always took
- 1:44Speaker 3: from it saying not saying you got yes being around
- 1:46Speaker 3: himcause you don't. But you always were one hundred percent
- 1:49Speaker 3: honest about everything.
- 1:50Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, you know, I mean, I think most of
- 1:53Speaker 4: the guys are If you ever listen to our radio
- 1:55Speaker 4: show Straight from Heart, we all we all get on
- 1:58Speaker 4: each other. They there are some, yes, man, but I'm
- 2:01Speaker 4: definitely I'm definitely.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Not one of them.
- 2:05Speaker 4: I'm not one of them, and not necessarily in the
- 2:07Speaker 4: like the immediate crew. But you know, when you're at
- 2:10Speaker 4: that level, you're going to have those people that say
- 2:11Speaker 4: everything you do is great. I tell him, like yod,
- 2:13Speaker 4: that was some book.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Well, what are some of the biggest misconceptions that came
- 2:16Speaker 1: from the roast? You think?
- 2:18Speaker 4: Man? I feel like people just a roast is a roast.
- 2:21Speaker 4: You know, people are going to say some off color things.
- 2:26Speaker 4: And I just feel like anybody that says something that
- 2:29Speaker 4: you don't agree with, which they should receive that energy alone.
- 2:32Speaker 4: It shouldn't go to anyone else. You know, everybody's overshadowing
- 2:37Speaker 4: the good stuff about the roast because of the couple
- 2:41Speaker 4: of negative things that were said, like Cherylondow would destroy.
- 2:45Speaker 1: That He's got a special out of it.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and that's Kev's doing. You know, Like people
- 2:51Speaker 4: keep talking about the Tony Hinchcliff thing. I feel like
- 2:53Speaker 4: this in the moment. I wasn't even really he was
- 2:56Speaker 4: going so fast. I didn't really like listen to it
- 2:58Speaker 4: like that. But the joke it was corny. More than
- 3:02Speaker 4: it being offensive, it just was corny. It was a
- 3:05Speaker 4: corny ass joke. If anybody has negativity, it should go
- 3:08Speaker 4: towards him. But Cheryl Underwood came in and packed all
- 3:12Speaker 4: of them up, so anything that we were feeling in
- 3:15Speaker 4: the moment, it was like, oh, maybe, like oh, that
- 3:16Speaker 4: was kind of disrespectful, there was rude. She came in
- 3:20Speaker 4: and handled that for everybody. So by the end of
- 3:23Speaker 4: the night, I don't think anybody was even thinking about that,
- 3:26Speaker 4: you know, I know I wasn't.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I was.
- 3:28Speaker 4: When I was sitting there, I was like, damn, I
- 3:29Speaker 4: was thinking about the standing though that I didn't get
- 3:34Speaker 4: this supposed to be a moment. You know, everybody talking
- 3:36Speaker 4: about how Nikki Glazer did the time Brady Rose and
- 3:39Speaker 4: her career took off from that, So everybody's looking for
- 3:42Speaker 4: this moment. I know I was, and I had a
- 3:44Speaker 4: good set. I was like, ain't nobody stand up for
- 3:46Speaker 4: me at this? That for Cheryl, Cheryl had the moment,
- 3:51Speaker 4: but Cheryl's already established Cheryl's already been on a daytime
- 3:54Speaker 4: talk show. She's been a comedian for forty years. She's
- 3:56Speaker 4: already been doing not things, So it was but it
- 3:59Speaker 4: was a refresh her for her, for her for sure.
- 4:02Speaker 4: You know, she came up there, she got three standing nose,
- 4:05Speaker 4: all of that racial stuff. She handled that in five minutes.
- 4:09Speaker 4: And then people are attacking keV for not standing up
- 4:13Speaker 4: for black people. I guess in that moment, but he
- 4:16Speaker 4: did something for Cheryl, So we need to put more
- 4:18Speaker 4: energy on that, on this this black woman that was
- 4:21Speaker 4: being attacked more than anybody on that stage. She now
- 4:24Speaker 4: walks away with a special And then she did her
- 4:27Speaker 4: little victory tour the week after, and she did these
- 4:29Speaker 4: interviews and she's like, you know, it's a roast. She
- 4:31Speaker 4: wasn't offended by most of the things. She's like, it's
- 4:33Speaker 4: a roast. It's no hose barred. You see what you want.
- 4:36Speaker 4: But everybody wanted keV to come on here and condemn
- 4:41Speaker 4: that joke, and shit he had her. I mean, I
- 4:45Speaker 4: guess he did in the way, but I guess it
- 4:47Speaker 4: was the tone and everything. Yeah, he said he.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Did say he would never make a joke like that.
- 4:53Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he did say it was tasteless. It was tasteless,
- 4:55Speaker 4: and it was corny.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yourn I was gonna say, you said it was corny.
- 4:58Speaker 2: You know, you don't ever really hear comedians say other
- 5:02Speaker 2: comedians jokes is cornya whack. But during this case, not
- 5:06Speaker 2: too much us. The comedians right ride with each other
- 5:08Speaker 2: or they did whatever. But during this case, I've seen
- 5:10Speaker 2: a lot of comedians say, Nona, I was trash, it
- 5:12Speaker 2: was whacked.
- 5:12Speaker 1: He was racist, he was just that and the other.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I love racial humor, but this got to be funny.
- 5:17Speaker 4: And if it's not funny, then you know, you're just
- 5:19Speaker 4: saying some just to say it. And he has to
- 5:24Speaker 4: receive all that. And I feel like Kevin is getting
- 5:28Speaker 4: more negative energy than the person that said it.
- 5:32Speaker 1: And also that's not racist humor.
- 5:33Speaker 3: That is trying to make a joke of somebody's violent,
- 5:36Speaker 3: tragic death at the hands of the poland right.
- 5:39Speaker 6: Because I saw a Spink post yesterday that like.
- 5:43Speaker 5: There were other jokes said about like his mom, Kevin
- 5:45Speaker 5: Hart's mom and dad, but we supposed to be upset
- 5:47Speaker 5: about the joke about George Floyd because he was killed
- 5:48Speaker 5: by a white cop, Like do you understand the frustration
- 5:52Speaker 5: that people have with Kevin.
- 5:54Speaker 4: I understand the frustration of the joke. The moment. It
- 5:59Speaker 4: wasn't fun with him. I know, people he didn't say
- 6:02Speaker 4: anything until he came on here. That was the first
- 6:05Speaker 4: interview he did, and people want him to simply come
- 6:08Speaker 4: on to condemn the joke and say I don't support that.
- 6:11Speaker 4: But he had other things to say about it that
- 6:13Speaker 4: didn't seem like maybe it came off like he didn't
- 6:16Speaker 4: care as much. I don't know, but you got to
- 6:18Speaker 4: understand that this is a guy that's been bullied over
- 6:21Speaker 4: and over again. You know, they took away the oscars
- 6:24Speaker 4: from from him years ago, then he had to go
- 6:26Speaker 4: on an apology tour. So you got a guy that
- 6:29Speaker 4: just really frustrated. And you know, when you've been bullied
- 6:33Speaker 4: into these apologies and you can't you feel like you
- 6:35Speaker 4: can't do anything right. Then sometimes you're just like that's
- 6:38Speaker 4: type of energy you have.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Because people will bring that up too though, they'll be like, oh,
- 6:41Speaker 3: so you can apologize to the LGBTQ.
- 6:43Speaker 4: He didn't want to.
- 6:44Speaker 3: He didn't want to, but he did. So you can't
- 6:49Speaker 3: do that for you know, family of George Floyd and
- 6:51Speaker 3: black people.
- 6:52Speaker 4: But what's the apology?
- 6:53Speaker 3: And I also I do I will say I think
- 6:54Speaker 3: the difference is he actually made the jokes with the
- 6:58Speaker 3: LGBTQ community.
- 6:59Speaker 4: He didn't say that, right, he didn't say And he
- 7:01Speaker 4: was also there to support when George Floyd was murdered.
- 7:05Speaker 4: He was there. So what is he apologizing for. He's
- 7:09Speaker 4: apologizing for what somebody else said. You know, I don't
- 7:13Speaker 4: I don't really understand that. I think we can all
- 7:15Speaker 4: agree that it was a tasteless joke. It wasn't funny.
- 7:18Speaker 4: And you know, people say, well, why did he have
- 7:21Speaker 4: Tony Hinchliff on the show?
- 7:22Speaker 1: Well that's a valid question.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Yeah, but nobody knew he was going to say that.
- 7:28Speaker 4: You know, he's he's good at roasting. He's done roast
- 7:32Speaker 4: in the past and and people have enjoyed it. Crazy
- 7:36Speaker 4: thing is he has a black writer, and I think
- 7:38Speaker 4: the black writer wrote that joke. Yes, Lucas, uh, yeah,
- 7:47Speaker 4: I think he's he's one of Tony's writers.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Understand.
- 7:53Speaker 5: Yeah, because coming out talking about what did and what
- 7:57Speaker 5: didn't make it, I don't know why we didn't hear
- 7:58Speaker 5: from this black writer, like know what I mean?
- 8:01Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I don't know if he wrote
- 8:03Speaker 4: that joke. I heard that he possibly did, but I
- 8:06Speaker 4: know that he writes for Tony, he was part of
- 8:08Speaker 4: that writing team. But he's a controversial comic, you know,
- 8:11Speaker 4: that's like kind of what he does. So I think
- 8:14Speaker 4: if when it comes to Tony Henchcliffe, let's say he
- 8:18Speaker 4: is racist, right, this energy is giving him what he wants.
- 8:23Speaker 4: The fact that we're still talking about him three weeks
- 8:25Speaker 4: later is just helping him with his career. So instead
- 8:29Speaker 4: of just like condemning him totally and not mentioning him anymore,
- 8:32Speaker 4: people keep bringing him up and he's just going to
- 8:34Speaker 4: continue to succeed because there's people that are racists and
- 8:37Speaker 4: want that that's why he's blown up. I feel like,
- 8:41Speaker 4: you know, you got to just move on from that
- 8:42Speaker 4: talk about the good stuff from the rods. There was
- 8:44Speaker 4: plenty of good things to walk away with, you know,
- 8:47Speaker 4: like me, So what happened?
- 8:49Speaker 1: Did you feel like that was coming out more with you?
- 8:51Speaker 4: First of all, I don't like that very bitch, Nah,
- 9:04Speaker 4: it was. You know, my career is it's been like
- 9:07Speaker 4: a steady incline, and I feel like that was a
- 9:10Speaker 4: good moment for me. Definitely helped with my my tour
- 9:13Speaker 4: that had a weekend in Orlando last week and helped
- 9:15Speaker 4: with taket sales for sure? Was it what I wanted
- 9:19Speaker 4: to be? I don't know yet, but I know I
- 9:22Speaker 4: was looking for a moment. And although a lot of
- 9:24Speaker 4: people are saying that I was their favorite, uh, there
- 9:27Speaker 4: was just so much other stuff going on that took
- 9:30Speaker 4: away from that moment for me. But you know, I'm
- 9:32Speaker 4: happy with what I did. That joke out to me though, Okay, okay,
- 9:36Speaker 4: we talked about that.
- 9:37Speaker 2: What I was gonna say, I was gonna say, what
- 9:39Speaker 2: are you looking for?
- 9:40Speaker 1: Though?
- 9:40Speaker 2: Because you tore with keV, you open up with keV.
- 9:43Speaker 2: You're hilarious. People always say you Larus have been a
- 9:44Speaker 2: bunch of your shows.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Loves you.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Yeah, she's making money off my joke.
- 9:51Speaker 2: So what is now you're looking for? Like, because you're
- 9:55Speaker 2: getting I feel like what you want?
- 9:57Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:57Speaker 4: Yeah? I just want I want more active work. You know,
- 10:00Speaker 4: I have a show we seven seasons in. It's called
- 10:03Speaker 4: Assistant Living is Tyler Perry Show. I want more acting work.
- 10:06Speaker 4: I want to be able to do theaters. I don't
- 10:10Speaker 4: even want I don't want the Kevin Hart career. I
- 10:12Speaker 4: want a career that works for me, and the scrutiny
- 10:16Speaker 4: that he has to take every day because of shit
- 10:18Speaker 4: like this, I don't want that. I'm glad I got this,
- 10:20Speaker 4: witness it firsthand, you know what I mean. But I
- 10:23Speaker 4: just want to be able to, you know, maybe do
- 10:27Speaker 4: two movies a year and tour when I want to.
- 10:30Speaker 4: I can spend time with my daughter, all of those things.
- 10:33Speaker 4: That's what I want. That's an ideal situation for me.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Just more and more work and more you know, respect
- 10:40Speaker 4: and notoriety for what I do. You asked about the
- 10:44Speaker 4: Dave Schapelle jokes, So I'm glad you asked about that.
- 10:46Speaker 5: I feel like more people should have been like, like,
- 10:48Speaker 5: that should have been a conversation about your part of
- 10:50Speaker 5: the show too.
- 10:50Speaker 6: That didn't happen either.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Well, people made videos about it, first and foremost. Dave
- 10:56Speaker 4: Schapelle's my favorite comedian, all right, So when I made
- 10:59Speaker 4: the him, it was really like, you know, I'm roasting
- 11:03Speaker 4: this person. I'm paying homage to them because I'm a
- 11:05Speaker 4: fan of him. It seemed a little bit out of
- 11:08Speaker 4: nowhere because he wasn't out there, but he was at
- 11:11Speaker 4: the show, he just wasn't out in the arena. And
- 11:15Speaker 4: I took it out then I put it back in.
- 11:17Speaker 4: The writers wanted me to do it so bad because
- 11:19Speaker 4: they thought it was you know, it was funny and controversy,
- 11:21Speaker 4: which is what you're looking for on his roast. So
- 11:25Speaker 4: he was there, but he was like somewhere in the back.
- 11:27Speaker 4: I didn't even see him. So I thought it was
- 11:30Speaker 4: a funny joke. I thought that he should be able
- 11:32Speaker 4: to laugh at it because he has a lot of
- 11:33Speaker 4: transgender jokes and everything, and it's like, yo, no, if
- 11:36Speaker 4: you're gonna come for somebody to come for the king.
- 11:38Speaker 4: But I'm a fan. It was really no disrespect, no
- 11:40Speaker 4: disrespect to his wife. It was just a joke.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was a trans jo.
- 11:43Speaker 3: I think it was a joke about his wife that
- 11:45Speaker 3: probably if he was upset, it.
- 11:47Speaker 4: Was, well that was part of the trans joke because
- 11:49Speaker 4: I said he mart at a Filipino lady boy. Yeah oh yeah. Yeah.
- 11:56Speaker 6: So you didn't see him after you got off the stage.
- 11:59Speaker 4: No, I didn't. I didn't and see him. I didn't
- 12:00Speaker 4: see him at all, but I knew he was there
- 12:02Speaker 4: and he was just kind of it was kind of
- 12:04Speaker 4: like back and forth whether he was going to actually
- 12:06Speaker 4: be out in the audience, and he decided not to
- 12:08Speaker 4: that next.
- 12:08Speaker 5: Specially you're gonna get two cigarettes, you said, he said
- 12:11Speaker 5: something just not that interesting.
- 12:12Speaker 3: You said that when you said with the writers, the
- 12:14Speaker 3: writers wanted you to do the joke because it was controversial.
- 12:17Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're looking for that. They want to start
- 12:19Speaker 4: some shit.
- 12:20Speaker 1: So somebody probably heard that. George Floyd joking was like.
- 12:24Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. We had to submit our We had to
- 12:26Speaker 4: submit our routine before the show, and it kept. It
- 12:29Speaker 4: had to be five minutes, like if you're speaking with
- 12:32Speaker 4: no laughter, it's five minutes, and then if his laughter,
- 12:35Speaker 4: it can be seven or eight minutes. So we all
- 12:37Speaker 4: had to cement on material. They knew what we were
- 12:39Speaker 4: going to say.
- 12:40Speaker 1: But who knew because keV keV said he didn't.
- 12:42Speaker 4: keV did not know. The producers of the show, the
- 12:44Speaker 4: writing room, those people knew, So I think that they
- 12:50Speaker 4: were they didn't care. Like, yo, if you say what
- 12:52Speaker 4: you want to say, that's on you. That's how That's
- 12:54Speaker 4: how I looked at it. But with that joke, and
- 12:57Speaker 4: it was a couple of jokes I did that they
- 12:58Speaker 4: thought were not funny. They're you shouldn't want to I like, yeah,
- 13:01Speaker 4: I want to keep this. They thought that dreamond Green
- 13:03Speaker 4: joke wasn't funny, and I got a applause break on that,
- 13:06Speaker 4: like you should, I'm like, yes, I've been working on
- 13:08Speaker 4: this ship. I know what's funny because you was in.
- 13:09Speaker 1: The comedy club. Somebody told me, oh, you put it
- 13:11Speaker 1: up on somebody.
- 13:14Speaker 6: Factor.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I was going to ask, you know, you just said
- 13:17Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle is your favorite comedy right, Why is Dave
- 13:20Speaker 2: Chappelle your favorite over Let's say keV Hart, who you
- 13:22Speaker 2: work with wright and on going the road with and tour.
- 13:25Speaker 4: So I'm fans of comedians for different reasons, right, I'm
- 13:28Speaker 4: I'm a fan of keV not only because he's funny,
- 13:30Speaker 4: because his work ethic, you know, like you got to
- 13:33Speaker 4: admire somebody that really really put the work in. People
- 13:36Speaker 4: call him a plan and they say he was giving this,
- 13:38Speaker 4: But I witnessed all of this ship. You know, you
- 13:40Speaker 4: you know.
- 13:42Speaker 1: The work absolutely.
- 13:44Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle. People don't realize that after he left the
- 13:49Speaker 4: Chappelle Show and he people said he was crazy and
- 13:52Speaker 4: he took his hiatus, he came back as a completely
- 13:55Speaker 4: different person. He would get on stage and he would
- 13:58Speaker 4: just talk. He would talking then he I think he
- 14:01Speaker 4: discovered a new confidence within that because people were just
- 14:04Speaker 4: so enamored by him they wanted to just hear what
- 14:07Speaker 4: he had to say. So he would get light of cigarette,
- 14:09Speaker 4: get on stage and talk, and then he realized like, oh, like,
- 14:12Speaker 4: I'm really that guy. And now he doesn't have any
- 14:16Speaker 4: TV shows. Everything he does, he does is just stand up,
- 14:18Speaker 4: so he's he doesn't have endorsements, he doesn't have to
- 14:21Speaker 4: worry any of those things. He's a free black man
- 14:24Speaker 4: and he can get on stage and say whatever he
- 14:25Speaker 4: wants to say and people hold on to every word.
- 14:29Speaker 4: So I said that especially wasn't funny, but especially was brilliant.
- 14:32Speaker 4: You know. It was probably in his top three, and
- 14:36Speaker 4: he's done a lot. I think Sticks and Stones is
- 14:38Speaker 4: maybe his best one.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and then killing me Softly.
- 14:42Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's just he's funny as hell. I admire
- 14:49Speaker 4: that level of confidence to just get up there and
- 14:52Speaker 4: just work on your shit and go to the club
- 14:54Speaker 4: not having anything to say. I can't do that. They'd
- 14:56Speaker 4: be like who this dude? Like, bro, you got two minutes?
- 14:59Speaker 4: You know you got thirty actually to make us laugh
- 15:01Speaker 4: or we we tapped out. So I think that it's comedy,
- 15:05Speaker 4: and a lot of times I hear his comedy, I'm like, man,
- 15:08Speaker 4: I kind of thought of something like that before, Like
- 15:11Speaker 4: I feel like with the right work ethic, and then
- 15:15Speaker 4: if I start to get into political stuff that I
- 15:17Speaker 4: feel like I could be like a mini Chappelle. That's
- 15:19Speaker 4: how I feel about myself, you know.
- 15:21Speaker 3: But I wondered about that, right, because it seems comedy
- 15:24Speaker 3: seems to be one of the last places where people
- 15:26Speaker 3: still expect complete honesty. So is that why comedians sort
- 15:30Speaker 3: of kind of got to become these cultural commentators, because
- 15:33Speaker 3: you know, if you started doing politics and stuff.
- 15:36Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it depends on what type of comedian you know,
- 15:38Speaker 4: are some comedians are just straight observational, like Tony Robbers.
- 15:42Speaker 4: Tony Robbers, he's just like funny stuff. And then you
- 15:44Speaker 4: have some comedians that want to go political like Chris Rock.
- 15:47Speaker 4: And then you got comedians that are personal talk about
- 15:49Speaker 4: family and stories and stuff like that, like keV, and
- 15:52Speaker 4: then you got Chappelle. It's just like, you know, it's
- 15:55Speaker 4: just a mixture of stuff. He don't really talk about
- 15:56Speaker 4: his family, but it's just he just talks about a
- 15:59Speaker 4: lot of current stuff. And I appreciate I appreciate his
- 16:03Speaker 4: pen game, man, so I think he's he's this generation's goat.
- 16:09Speaker 5: But that's why I thought that that moment even you take,
- 16:11Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't think there was real smoke with
- 16:13Speaker 5: char nothing. I knew that, like he's one of the great,
- 16:15Speaker 5: so I understood what she was doing. But that's why
- 16:16Speaker 5: I thought it was so great of you even thinking
- 16:18Speaker 5: to do that there on that stage when you're wanting
- 16:20Speaker 5: people to be like, well, who was nin even once
- 16:22Speaker 5: he walks off that stage, I thought that was like
- 16:24Speaker 5: a great joke selection, so hopefully you get what you want.
- 16:28Speaker 3: You think comedians are being asked to be too much, though,
- 16:30Speaker 3: like to be an aster, replaced journalists in a lot
- 16:33Speaker 3: of ways. Like you said, you gotta talk politics, people
- 16:37Speaker 3: want you to be therapist. Is it because people trust
- 16:39Speaker 3: comedians more?
- 16:42Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't. I think that you gotta
- 16:46Speaker 4: It's like a like a podcast or a self help book.
- 16:50Speaker 4: You gotta go to the person that gives that instead
- 16:54Speaker 4: of expecting everyone to just fall under that. You know,
- 16:58Speaker 4: if you want stuff, then you go to Chris Rock,
- 17:02Speaker 4: you know, if you want to hear about just some
- 17:04Speaker 4: regular funny stuff and family stuff. And animals. You know,
- 17:09Speaker 4: keV always got to talk about an animal experience and
- 17:11Speaker 4: it's special. Then you go to that. So it's really
- 17:14Speaker 4: about what resonates with you. I don't feel like we
- 17:20Speaker 4: have the expectations of doing that. I know that with
- 17:24Speaker 4: this whole thing that's going on. You know, when you
- 17:27Speaker 4: are a famous person, then people just expect stuff out
- 17:30Speaker 4: of you. They want care to be Dick Gregory, you know,
- 17:34Speaker 4: and he's not that. Like you got to know who
- 17:37Speaker 4: you're dealing with. He's just not that. But he does
- 17:40Speaker 4: so much for black people. And in this moment, I
- 17:43Speaker 4: think where he could have came on and just say
- 17:46Speaker 4: I don't agree with it. He didn't want to do
- 17:48Speaker 4: that because he's tired of being bullied. And you know
- 17:53Speaker 4: what's the saying heavy is the where's the crowd? Yeah?
- 17:57Speaker 1: What comes first for you? Is it comedy of being black?
- 18:01Speaker 4: For me, being black, being a comedian is just what
- 18:05Speaker 4: I do. That's my career. I'm a black man for sure,
- 18:10Speaker 4: That's that's what's most important to me. What about you,
- 18:16Speaker 4: I mean, you don't really have a choice.
- 18:19Speaker 3: I think I got I got no choice. I don't
- 18:21Speaker 3: have the choice but to present black first. But comedy
- 18:23Speaker 3: has different laws and different rules, right, because there's certain
- 18:27Speaker 3: things that a comedian, especially a white wan, will say
- 18:30Speaker 3: on stage about a black person. I don't think they
- 18:32Speaker 3: would say just in regular everyday conversation.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Give me an example, Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.
- 18:40Speaker 3: You wouldn't say that in regular everyday conversation around black people.
- 18:43Speaker 3: But if he says it on stage, I guess it's
- 18:47Speaker 3: I guess it's people, it's accepted.
- 18:48Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know.
- 18:50Speaker 4: But even what he said on stage in a regular show,
- 18:52Speaker 4: or is it just that the roast is this moment
- 18:54Speaker 4: where we finally as comedians get off we can say
- 18:57Speaker 4: whatever we want because cancel call doesn't allow you to
- 19:00Speaker 4: say the things you used to say. Excuse me. So
- 19:04Speaker 4: now when it comes to this roles, it's like, all right,
- 19:07Speaker 4: we're gonna we can say these words, we can say
- 19:09Speaker 4: talk about gay people, we can do all these things
- 19:12Speaker 4: because it's just okay for this one night. So I
- 19:15Speaker 4: don't I've never seen him do stand up, so I
- 19:17Speaker 4: don't know what his stand up is like.
- 19:19Speaker 6: But well on it's killed Tony platform.
- 19:20Speaker 5: He I feel like he gets he said, he says
- 19:23Speaker 5: to me what he wants to say he doesn't hold
- 19:25Speaker 5: back like I just I just.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Question the why because you know, once again, being black, right,
- 19:28Speaker 3: there's certain things we don't do.
- 19:30Speaker 1: I'm not clown in the day, you.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Know, like even whether it's Cheryl Underwood's husband committing suicide
- 19:35Speaker 3: or Pete Davis's dad doing nine to eleven Charlie Kirkage.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Iin't like George Floyd. I don't like why. I guess
- 19:42Speaker 3: my thing is, why would you want a joke about it?
- 19:45Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I made a joke about
- 19:48Speaker 4: keV his dead father too before, so uh his.
- 19:51Speaker 6: The one you throughout his I think it was his grandma.
- 19:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, yeah, that's different. But but actually I
- 19:57Speaker 4: actually knew his father and when he he did the
- 20:00Speaker 4: Mark Twain he got the Mark Twain Prize a couple
- 20:03Speaker 4: of years ago. I made a joke. I said, your
- 20:06Speaker 4: mother's looking down you smiling. I said, your dad's looking
- 20:09Speaker 4: up burning you know. So it was. But I'm his.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Friend, his friend, his friend, you know his dad.
- 20:16Speaker 1: You knew the family. But that's what a road should be.
- 20:19Speaker 3: And Kevin is on stage with y'all, so any if
- 20:23Speaker 3: he says yo, y'all can make jokes about my dad.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Then mom and y'all have at it. That's fine.
- 20:27Speaker 3: The Floyd family, the Kirk family, they ain't nothing to
- 20:30Speaker 3: do with it. Cheryl's husband ain't.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Got nothing to do it. But she was on stage,
- 20:32Speaker 1: so I guess one.
- 20:34Speaker 4: So the good thing about Cheryl because they were going
- 20:38Speaker 4: so hard on her, she started to hear like some
- 20:40Speaker 4: things that people are going to say, and then Shane
- 20:44Speaker 4: said he had a conversation with I don't know. I
- 20:45Speaker 4: guess that's true. I don't know. But she was really
- 20:48Speaker 4: ready for the moment. She was prepared, man, and she
- 20:51Speaker 4: went up there she killed it. I was so happy
- 20:53Speaker 4: for her, man, Like I was happier for her than
- 20:55Speaker 4: I was for myself.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Wow, I was First of all, you asked me am
- 21:00Speaker 2: I Black or DJ first?
- 21:01Speaker 1: But do the mini stuff.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Second of all, I was gonna ask, you know, how
- 21:06Speaker 2: often do you and keV argue because it seems like
- 21:08Speaker 2: you're that one person that's just hard headed, You're gonna
- 21:10Speaker 2: say what you want and regardless at the kitchen table
- 21:13Speaker 2: at Christmas dinner things, given that you're gonna say that,
- 21:15Speaker 2: how often do you argue.
- 21:16Speaker 4: I'm not hardheaded, I'm just I'm holding him to a standard.
- 21:20Speaker 4: You know you're not gonna just pull that bullshit on me.
- 21:22Speaker 4: But we actually haven't argued in a long time because
- 21:26Speaker 4: I have no sense of entitlement with anything. I appreciate
- 21:30Speaker 4: Kevin as a friend. What he does for me career
- 21:32Speaker 4: wise and who he is as a friend is two
- 21:35Speaker 4: different things, and I appreciate them separately, but we don't argue.
- 21:39Speaker 4: The last argument we had was probably around the Mark
- 21:42Speaker 4: Twain shit, and that's why I was the only one
- 21:45Speaker 4: out of all the guys on the rost because with
- 21:48Speaker 4: the Mark Twain prize, he didn't even really know what
- 21:50Speaker 4: that was. And I seen Chappelle get, I saw Eddie
- 21:53Speaker 4: Murphy getting. I'm like, yo, this is a dope thing,
- 21:55Speaker 4: and they're gonna have people speak for you, and I
- 21:57Speaker 4: want to be one of those people. Next thing, I
- 22:00Speaker 4: know all of us up there, I'm like this, they
- 22:03Speaker 4: didn't even asked to do this shit. So he not
- 22:10Speaker 4: only are the comedians but the other guys in the group.
- 22:13Speaker 4: So I'm like and I had to I had to
- 22:16Speaker 4: dial it back, like all right, I'm getting upset over
- 22:20Speaker 4: a moment to honor him, and I was wrong. I said, look,
- 22:24Speaker 4: this is this is your moment. I'm looking for a
- 22:26Speaker 4: moment within your moment, and that's not okay. So I
- 22:29Speaker 4: conceded on that, But that's probably like the last argument
- 22:33Speaker 4: we've had. We don't argue.
- 22:35Speaker 2: And why wouldn't the other the other members, the other
- 22:37Speaker 2: guys on the roast because you said you're the only one,
- 22:40Speaker 2: just because it was that? Was that a problem with
- 22:43Speaker 2: the crew?
- 22:43Speaker 4: Like, nah, they all look, my guys, they they wanted
- 22:46Speaker 4: that for me. As soon as he decided he was
- 22:49Speaker 4: doing it, he called me said, look, I'm not having
- 22:51Speaker 4: the plastic couple boards and I'm having you on it.
- 22:54Speaker 4: And he knows that's what I do, Like I'm capable
- 22:57Speaker 4: of doing the roast stuff, the writing and all of that.
- 22:59Speaker 4: So the guys supported me. They were they were happy
- 23:04Speaker 4: as hell for me.
- 23:05Speaker 6: I love that for y'all.
- 23:06Speaker 5: I love the synergy and I think too, like when
- 23:09Speaker 5: people one thing I would say, when people are giving
- 23:11Speaker 5: Kevin Hart pushback about this role, he says something here
- 23:13Speaker 5: where he was talking about what he does for black
- 23:14Speaker 5: other black comedians, and like a lot of people learn
- 23:17Speaker 5: who you guys are because of Kevin. In the fact
- 23:19Speaker 5: that that hasn't stopped. You'll been at this for years
- 23:21Speaker 5: with each other and having those real ego based conversations
- 23:24Speaker 5: sometimes but getting through it.
- 23:25Speaker 6: Yeah, but nobody talks about that.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Man, you know, when it's a hot topic and everybody's
- 23:33Speaker 4: coming down on you, do you forget about the bigger
- 23:35Speaker 4: picture and all the things that he's done for black
- 23:38Speaker 4: people period? You know? But he's just I think you
- 23:42Speaker 4: got just lower your expectations out of him. He's just
- 23:45Speaker 4: he's an entertainer and he's a good guy. And I
- 23:51Speaker 4: almost admire how he didn't come on here and throw
- 23:54Speaker 4: Tony Henschliff under.
- 23:56Speaker 1: The bus because he didn't want to throw comedy under.
- 23:58Speaker 4: The buck, right, because it's supposed to be you know,
- 24:02Speaker 4: freedom of speech. And he had the opportunity because that's
- 24:05Speaker 4: what Chelsea did. She threw him all the way under
- 24:07Speaker 4: the bus. And Kevin could have came over here and said, yeah,
- 24:10Speaker 4: fuck him. You know, that was a terrible joke. But
- 24:13Speaker 4: he didn't do that, and I respect him for that,
- 24:16Speaker 4: even though you know that he may have felt like that.
- 24:19Speaker 4: But just like, I'm not gonna come on here and
- 24:21Speaker 4: publicly trash this person that I had on my show.
- 24:25Speaker 5: So I was gonna ask you, would you have advised
- 24:27Speaker 5: him not to do that now, cause you talked about
- 24:29Speaker 5: him being frustrated when he came here.
- 24:30Speaker 6: Do you feel like he should have waited before he
- 24:32Speaker 6: came out.
- 24:32Speaker 4: I didn't know he was gonna come in here and
- 24:33Speaker 4: crash out like that.
- 24:36Speaker 6: Said the same thing in TMC. Know you said he
- 24:38Speaker 6: you think he was just frustrating.
- 24:39Speaker 5: People didn't hear the right tone from him, cause that
- 24:41Speaker 5: was a lot of response to our interview.
- 24:43Speaker 4: I when I watched it, I was like, Oh, I
- 24:46Speaker 4: I know how he's feeling right now, cause I know
- 24:48Speaker 4: him personally and he's just like he's in that space
- 24:51Speaker 4: like I can't do shit right, you know what I mean?
- 24:54Speaker 4: He's just like Yo, this just was a roast him.
- 24:57Speaker 4: His energy on the stage was him was supposed to
- 24:59Speaker 4: be be a good sport. He's been a good sport
- 25:02Speaker 4: throughout it and people can pare compare him to Tom Brady.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Tom Brady's not a comedian. Tom Brady stopped Jeff Ross
- 25:08Speaker 4: in the middle of one joke. It was talking about
- 25:10Speaker 4: a massage or some shit. I don't I don't even
- 25:12Speaker 4: know what the joke was, but I was serious.
- 25:15Speaker 1: I don't like everybody reported it like it was serious.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I thought it was just on some like.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Again like, yeah, I didn't. I don't know if it
- 25:23Speaker 4: was serious or not. I think they may have taken
- 25:25Speaker 4: it out. If they I think they took some stuff out,
- 25:28Speaker 4: and maybe they took out the stuff about his family
- 25:30Speaker 4: and his kids.
- 25:31Speaker 3: But uh, did they cut jokes out of Kevin? Because's
- 25:35Speaker 3: what everybodys saying, they cut eighteen jokes.
- 25:37Speaker 4: I don't know. They didn't cut any of my ship.
- 25:38Speaker 4: I don't know, but I was just I was looking
- 25:42Speaker 4: at him. I was like, damn, my bros. He's frustrated
- 25:45Speaker 4: and this energy is just it's probably not being received well.
- 25:49Speaker 4: But he has good intention, he's a he's a good
- 25:52Speaker 4: dude man. But sometimes you just got lower your expectations
- 25:56Speaker 4: out of certain people. But you know, also I understand
- 26:01Speaker 4: how people feel too. Though it was a tasteless joke.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Most importantly, it wasn't funny, and it was just like
- 26:08Speaker 4: a moment for him to just say some controversial ship
- 26:12Speaker 4: And if that was the goal, it's working because we're
- 26:15Speaker 4: still talking about it three weeks later.
- 26:19Speaker 1: You said, graduated with old you some money?
- 26:21Speaker 3: Why so, Gretcha Wi Moore is the governor? Yeah, yeah,
- 26:26Speaker 3: she loves your shock a joke about periods, right.
- 26:31Speaker 4: And that joke was old as hell and she but
- 26:33Speaker 4: one thing she she gives me credit. She sucks my
- 26:36Speaker 4: name up every time. She's like, yeah, now I'm leaying. Yeah,
- 26:40Speaker 4: he said the shark week joke at the Kevin Hard
- 26:42Speaker 4: Show and then she just made like a slogan out
- 26:43Speaker 4: of it.
- 26:44Speaker 1: She said about it in her book. Really, that's why
- 26:47Speaker 1: I read it. I read it in her book before
- 26:48Speaker 1: we even interviewed it. I read it. She writes about
- 26:50Speaker 1: it in her book.
- 26:51Speaker 6: That she mentioned him in the book. Yes, that's what makes.
- 26:57Speaker 1: She had a great comedy to open form named naim Let.
- 26:59Speaker 1: She told the holes. It's a whole damnar sub chapter
- 27:03Speaker 1: in her book.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Yeah, she was on a late night show. I think
- 27:06Speaker 4: it was Kimmel or something. And she's also did she
- 27:10Speaker 4: mention on here?
- 27:11Speaker 1: Yep.
- 27:12Speaker 4: Yeah, she keeps giving me credit for this joke, but
- 27:14Speaker 4: no money.
- 27:18Speaker 1: You never met her though.
- 27:20Speaker 4: No, I've never met her.
- 27:21Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 27:23Speaker 4: People speak highly of her though, you call it big
- 27:25Speaker 4: gretch or some shit.
- 27:25Speaker 1: He says.
- 27:26Speaker 3: She tells that joke to herself before she gives speeches
- 27:30Speaker 3: or debates, because she said it calms it down.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah, I helped a white woman.
- 27:40Speaker 3: What's the biggest lesson you think you've learned from being
- 27:43Speaker 3: around I guess shit, just success for so long, especially
- 27:48Speaker 3: at that level.
- 27:50Speaker 4: A man of course, work ethic, I've learned, and what
- 28:00Speaker 4: it takes to be a celebrity. He's so good at that,
- 28:06Speaker 4: that's why, you know, and you've interviewed him a million
- 28:08Speaker 4: times in Kevis, Like he's so polished. He doesn't really
- 28:12Speaker 4: make these mistakes and interviews and not that he made
- 28:15Speaker 4: a mistake, it was just like, you know, he was
- 28:16Speaker 4: just frustrated. Yeah, yeah, he was upset and it was real.
- 28:22Speaker 4: Yeah you saw, yeah, you saw like just the rawness
- 28:25Speaker 4: of it all. But I've learned that, you know, being
- 28:30Speaker 4: a celebrity is extremely difficult. It takes a lot to
- 28:35Speaker 4: get to where he is, and I just appreciate the
- 28:39Speaker 4: journey of it all. Also, I've seen that black people
- 28:45Speaker 4: sometimes like when they when they first if they like
- 28:49Speaker 4: discover you or they feel like they discover you and
- 28:51Speaker 4: then you're not theirs anymore. Then sometimes they like they
- 28:55Speaker 4: make turning it back on you because before he was
- 28:57Speaker 4: like a huge star, they was. You know, people are
- 29:00Speaker 4: always want to say I knew him when he did this.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my guy.
- 29:03Speaker 4: Yeah, or like perfect analogy, a boxer comes up right
- 29:07Speaker 4: and then he gets it belt and he's like, I
- 29:09Speaker 4: wasn't watching him since the Olympics, so since since his
- 29:11Speaker 4: first fight. So once he really really became this mainstream star,
- 29:17Speaker 4: then people turn it back on you a little bit.
- 29:19Speaker 4: But thankfully he's a movie star, so he still does
- 29:22Speaker 4: well with the comedy shows and everything. But the fan
- 29:25Speaker 4: based that the original fan base, they were also coming
- 29:28Speaker 4: for us. They knew who we were. And I think
- 29:30Speaker 4: these new people because when you come to the show,
- 29:32Speaker 4: y'all was at the show, was at the show last tour,
- 29:34Speaker 4: It's like seventy ft kicked out.
- 29:36Speaker 2: I got kicked out the years years ago.
- 29:38Speaker 4: Okay it's white, yeah, yeah yeah, And those are the
- 29:43Speaker 4: movie star fans, black people like Man, I'll watch that
- 29:45Speaker 4: sh it on Netflix. I was gonna ask you, do
- 29:47Speaker 4: you does it ball V?
- 29:48Speaker 2: That keV cares so much because it feels like he
- 29:52Speaker 2: cares like he cares what people say, he cares what
- 29:54Speaker 2: the critics say, he cares what Instagram says.
- 29:56Speaker 4: Does that ball you?
- 29:57Speaker 3: Though?
- 30:00Speaker 4: I think he tries to avoid it but when it's
- 30:03Speaker 4: stuff like at his level, you gotta post ghosts. You
- 30:07Speaker 4: can't read the comments. You know, people waiting to destroy you.
- 30:10Speaker 4: No matter you could say it's a beautiful day, something
- 30:13Speaker 4: gonna say fuck you. Right, No matter what I say
- 30:18Speaker 4: on here, somebody's gonna be in the comments saying negative shit.
- 30:22Speaker 4: I don't think that it bothers him that much. I
- 30:25Speaker 4: think when he tries to do something good and he
- 30:30Speaker 4: shows that I can take a joke and whatever whatever
- 30:33Speaker 4: he does, he think is a good thing, and it's
- 30:35Speaker 4: met with negativity, I think that's what frustrates him. But
- 30:39Speaker 4: the average everyday stuff is like whatever it comes with it.
- 30:43Speaker 4: You know, That's that's just part of being entertainer. The
- 30:46Speaker 4: more famous you become, the more negativity you're gonna receive.
- 30:50Speaker 4: You gotta just ignore it.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Have you ever a struggle with comparison, not even just
- 30:53Speaker 3: with Kevi, but just in general, like with other comedians.
- 30:57Speaker 4: Like from from inside Myself? Yeah, nah, I don't. I
- 31:02Speaker 4: don't care, bro, I'm not a hater. I want to
- 31:04Speaker 4: see everybody succeed. I'm more focused on what I got
- 31:08Speaker 4: going on. Because when you spend time and energy talking
- 31:11Speaker 4: about other people, then that's taking away from what you're
- 31:14Speaker 4: trying to do. You know a lot of people try
- 31:16Speaker 4: to get famous off of talking about somebody else, like
- 31:19Speaker 4: what are you doing? What are you doing to get
- 31:21Speaker 4: further in your career? So, nah, I don't compare myself
- 31:25Speaker 4: with anybody. I'm my favorite comedian, you know, I think
- 31:29Speaker 4: I'm great. It's just a matter of finding my tribe.
- 31:34Speaker 4: You know. You see a lot of comedians right now,
- 31:36Speaker 4: the Josh Johnson and Dion Cole like they found their tribe,
- 31:42Speaker 4: so people are coming to see them. The problem is
- 31:44Speaker 4: the most shows I do, they're coming to see Kevin
- 31:47Speaker 4: and then I steal a few fans, but some people
- 31:50Speaker 4: may not like my humor because it's completely different than his.
- 31:53Speaker 4: So it's just I'm in that space of like, all right,
- 31:56Speaker 4: what do I do to find my tribe? It's hardy
- 32:00Speaker 4: have like a city that I'm from. I'm from New Jersey.
- 32:03Speaker 4: I'm from Hillside but no, no, I'm from Hillside, New Jersey,
- 32:11Speaker 4: born and born and raised, went to high school there,
- 32:13Speaker 4: and it's a small town right next to Nork. And
- 32:16Speaker 4: I never wanted to claim Nork because I'm like, nobody's
- 32:18Speaker 4: from Hillside. But I started doing comedy in Philly when
- 32:22Speaker 4: I was in college, so they embraced me a little bit.
- 32:27Speaker 4: I embraced them a little bit, but that ain't where
- 32:29Speaker 4: I'm from. Like I'm from New Jersey. I'm proud to
- 32:32Speaker 4: be from New Jersey. So it's really about finding my tribe,
- 32:36Speaker 4: my supporters, and they just you know, tag along for
- 32:39Speaker 4: my career.
- 32:40Speaker 1: You ever did a show in Hillside?
- 32:42Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it show. We did a show at
- 32:44Speaker 4: the high school one time. Them boy right, Hey, he's
- 32:47Speaker 4: a comedian, Jonathan Martin. We did a show at our
- 32:50Speaker 4: high school years ago. It's fun show.
- 32:53Speaker 5: But what are you actively doing? Like, I mean, I
- 32:55Speaker 5: see you're active on social media. How are you trying
- 32:58Speaker 5: to find that tribe? Because it is like Kevin is
- 33:00Speaker 5: such a big star and Plastic Cupboys has become kind
- 33:02Speaker 5: of its own brand, right.
- 33:05Speaker 4: So now I'm just doing solo dates. I'm doing solo dates,
- 33:10Speaker 4: just testing. And I was doing solo date. I was
- 33:12Speaker 4: a headliner before Plastic Cupboys. But then because we were
- 33:17Speaker 4: getting so much attention and popularity from TOYM and Kevin,
- 33:20Speaker 4: me and Spank decided let's toys Plastic cup Boys. We
- 33:23Speaker 4: can sell more tickets and it was working at first,
- 33:26Speaker 4: and then after a while I was like, yeah, I
- 33:27Speaker 4: can do this shit by myself, you know, ain't something
- 33:32Speaker 4: like that. So but I'm just I'm writing. That's what
- 33:39Speaker 4: I'm doing. Snoop Dogg dropped a gym on me. You know,
- 33:43Speaker 4: he came to our show in Australia. He's like, yo,
- 33:45Speaker 4: your pen is your gift. So I'm like, all right,
- 33:48Speaker 4: I received that Snoop. And I never wanted to just
- 33:50Speaker 4: be a writer because I feel like I always want
- 33:53Speaker 4: to be in front of the camera. I want to
- 33:54Speaker 4: be an actor. So I feel like if you've become
- 33:58Speaker 4: a writer, then people only look at you as that.
- 34:00Speaker 4: So yeah, that's one of the things that's listed about me.
- 34:03Speaker 4: I'm a writer. I've written this, I've written that. But
- 34:07Speaker 4: I'm really locking into that. Writing scripts, writing shows stuff
- 34:12Speaker 4: for me to start in and I think that that's
- 34:16Speaker 4: gonna help with my with my career.
- 34:18Speaker 1: But do you like the grindwork?
- 34:19Speaker 2: Do you like the you know, we all see Kevin
- 34:22Speaker 2: start off right, but do you like the do you
- 34:24Speaker 2: think you're too big to do some of the stuff
- 34:27Speaker 2: that the eleven PM shows and pop in and pop
- 34:29Speaker 2: out the eight o'clock shows and do that type of
- 34:31Speaker 2: stuff is or you said like, now I ain't doing that.
- 34:33Speaker 2: I'm too mai for that.
- 34:34Speaker 4: I love doing that. I do free shows all time.
- 34:36Speaker 4: When I come to the city, I go to the cellar.
- 34:38Speaker 4: I love. I love doing stand up. It's now I
- 34:42Speaker 4: do the small shows, the big shows or whatever, because
- 34:45Speaker 4: I just want to work on my craft and I
- 34:47Speaker 4: gotta stay fresh because I feel like if I missed
- 34:49Speaker 4: two weeks off stage and I'm rusty. You know, I'm
- 34:52Speaker 4: in Sacramento next week at the at the Punchline, so
- 34:56Speaker 4: I'll probably go up tonight because I don't want that
- 34:59Speaker 4: we in between why they didn't go on stage. I
- 35:02Speaker 4: don't care about the money, bro. I care about it
- 35:05Speaker 4: because I need it, But I'm more I care more
- 35:09Speaker 4: about the art of it all and being a solid comedian,
- 35:14Speaker 4: and I care about being a good actor. So I'm
- 35:18Speaker 4: getting my reps in on the show on Tyler Perry Show,
- 35:21Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm like right there at the cliff.
- 35:26Speaker 4: I just need one little push and the I'm gonna
- 35:29Speaker 4: be where I need to be.
- 35:30Speaker 3: You you were supposed to be a writer on the
- 35:32Speaker 3: Rose Right, I heard that you was supposed to be
- 35:34Speaker 3: a writer for the whole rose.
- 35:35Speaker 1: But you said, Nah, I just want to focus on myself.
- 35:38Speaker 4: No, I was right on the Tom Brady Rose on
- 35:41Speaker 4: this ros. No. I actually asked them if they wanted
- 35:45Speaker 4: me to write, because I had a zoom call with
- 35:48Speaker 4: the writer's room and they're, like, I thought they were
- 35:51Speaker 4: going to ask about my jokes, they were asking about keV.
- 35:55Speaker 4: They realized they didn't really know shit about them. So
- 35:58Speaker 4: I realized a couple minutes in to the conversation, like, oh,
- 36:01Speaker 4: y'all need me, like y'all trying to grill me about
- 36:02Speaker 4: some stuff with Kevin. And then after I got the call,
- 36:05Speaker 4: I told my agent, I said, I got extra material.
- 36:09Speaker 4: I wrote like fifteen minutes worth of stuff. If they
- 36:11Speaker 4: want it, they can pay me and I'll give it
- 36:14Speaker 4: to them. Crickets, I'm all right.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Because there was that whole controversy that Michael Chay said
- 36:19Speaker 3: that there was no black writers, even though I mean,
- 36:21Speaker 3: I know it was black writers, but he posted that
- 36:23Speaker 3: it was just like six six white writers.
- 36:26Speaker 4: That zoom call I had was twenty middle aged white people. Damn,
- 36:31Speaker 4: there was no black people in there. I think now,
- 36:34Speaker 4: if you had your own writers, then you might have
- 36:36Speaker 4: had somebody black. But as far as the Netflix writers,
- 36:40Speaker 4: it was just I thought they were executives. They're like, no,
- 36:43Speaker 4: this is the writers. I'm like shit.
- 36:46Speaker 1: On the credits it was mad black writers listed though.
- 36:48Speaker 6: Explain that Pencer too.
- 36:51Speaker 4: Those were Kevin's right.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:53Speaker 4: As far as the if you came on the show
- 36:56Speaker 4: as one of the people on the day is then
- 36:59Speaker 4: you were able to bring writers in with you. But
- 37:02Speaker 4: as far as the Netflix writers all white people.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Well no, I ain't gonna tell it. All you did
- 37:08Speaker 1: was in and up, back in and back up again.
- 37:11Speaker 4: But you can't blame nobody for that. That's Netflix.
- 37:14Speaker 5: Who would use the jokes from the Netflix writers because
- 37:17Speaker 5: the people sitting on the stage can come with their
- 37:18Speaker 5: own writers, but it's not they depend on the Netflix writers.
- 37:21Speaker 4: Well, they kept trying to give me stuff. I was like, nah,
- 37:23Speaker 4: I don't need y'all. I wrote my own ship. Me
- 37:25Speaker 4: and Big J I think are probably the only people
- 37:27Speaker 4: that wrote their whole set and that's it. The people
- 37:31Speaker 4: that may have needed writers were Tianna Taylor. Maybe she
- 37:36Speaker 4: didn't use it because that ship was trash. Uh. I
- 37:42Speaker 4: love Tianna. She's a great actress and that's not going
- 37:44Speaker 4: to affect her career. But who else you do didn't like?
- 37:52Speaker 2: Who was funny to you doing that?
- 37:53Speaker 4: Listen, you don't have to you don't have to do
- 37:56Speaker 4: that to try to pull it out of me. I'll
- 37:57Speaker 4: say it the Williams senses. I don't know what the
- 38:00Speaker 4: funk they were talking about. They weren't even talking in
- 38:03Speaker 4: the mic.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even see that. I checked out by this.
- 38:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 38:08Speaker 6: For Tom Brady, he was good.
- 38:10Speaker 4: They probably wrote for him. Tom was Tom was great.
- 38:13Speaker 4: They probably wrote for him.
- 38:14Speaker 3: And I was in and out of the rock to Paul,
- 38:17Speaker 3: like I felt it just felt like it was too long,
- 38:18Speaker 3: Like Paul again again, Yes.
- 38:21Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know.
- 38:24Speaker 2: What your hands man, We got what you said.
- 38:26Speaker 1: He didn't feel like it was going on, was dragging
- 38:28Speaker 1: on a little bit.
- 38:29Speaker 4: I thought the rock was incredible. It was like a yeah,
- 38:34Speaker 4: like he really sees the moment and yeah, he got
- 38:36Speaker 4: a little weird with it.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Nipple was crazy.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a little weird with it, but it
- 38:41Speaker 3: was like like some of the weird I like when
- 38:42Speaker 3: he was like I gotta tattooed Kevin Hard on my dick. Yeah,
- 38:45Speaker 3: he was like no, no, he was like your wife,
- 38:48Speaker 3: you want to see it.
- 38:50Speaker 1: It was funny.
- 38:51Speaker 4: I thought the rock was great. It was like really like,
- 38:54Speaker 4: uh just showed why he is who he is. Uh yeah,
- 38:58Speaker 4: he got a little gay, but it was was funny.
- 39:00Speaker 4: I thought Regina was Regina was so okay. So Regina
- 39:04Speaker 4: sat next to me, and people kept thinking that Regina
- 39:06Speaker 4: was just not laughing at things. But I think she
- 39:09Speaker 4: was just locked into this character of the whole show. Yeah,
- 39:12Speaker 4: like she was the psychic.
- 39:14Speaker 6: People thought she was so white people, Nah, she was.
- 39:17Speaker 4: She kept talking to me. She I got all she
- 39:19Speaker 4: was like, that was great, you know, she kind of
- 39:21Speaker 4: like was She's like that was great, and she was like,
- 39:23Speaker 4: who do you think is doing the worst? Right? So
- 39:26Speaker 4: I'm like I'm like wow. She was like, you'll see.
- 39:29Speaker 4: I just need to know who's who's the worst? And
- 39:31Speaker 4: then uh, Tianna went up and I was like she
- 39:34Speaker 4: was the worst. And then and then she goes up
- 39:38Speaker 4: there and she said, your mother also told me that
- 39:40Speaker 4: Tiana Taylor was going bomb tonight. That's why she she
- 39:44Speaker 4: was locked. Yeah, that's why she wanted to know who
- 39:46Speaker 4: was the worst. Regina is the ship man. She was great.
- 39:50Speaker 4: I thought she was funny as hell too. I thought
- 39:52Speaker 4: Pete Davison was funny. Yeah, I thought most of the people
- 39:55Speaker 4: did did great. And it's just not being talked about
- 39:58Speaker 4: because we're talking about Yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 3: You had a moment where you know, they do you.
- 40:05Speaker 3: They said you called Lamar Oldham to leave. That's the
- 40:07Speaker 3: people in the room told me. They said, you the
- 40:08Speaker 3: joke he made about Lamar Oldham caused him to leave
- 40:10Speaker 3: the rod Yeah, he walked out.
- 40:13Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't see that ship he was
- 40:14Speaker 4: at that party though.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we were told people that was in the
- 40:19Speaker 3: room was like he got up and got up and left.
- 40:22Speaker 1: I don't know how true.
- 40:23Speaker 2: That he was upset. Lamar would have stepped to you.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Tho Lamal would have said something if he was upset.
- 40:26Speaker 4: I think, what are you gonna say? He said the
- 40:28Speaker 4: ship in this in the fucking documentary? He was smoking crack.
- 40:32Speaker 4: So what I just said? What you said? I know
- 40:34Speaker 4: that because you said it. What are you mad about?
- 40:38Speaker 3: And there was that I saw one headline that said
- 40:40Speaker 3: Lamar Oldham looks visibly annoyed his comic makes brutal joke
- 40:44Speaker 3: expense on Netflix.
- 40:45Speaker 1: That was on mirror.
- 40:46Speaker 4: What I heard is he mouthed, what did he say
- 40:48Speaker 4: like he didn't really hear what I said, but I don't.
- 40:52Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't care. It was a joke
- 40:55Speaker 4: about the rock, and I said, I said, I don't
- 40:58Speaker 4: want to smoke with rock. That's what almost kill them
- 41:00Speaker 4: all with him. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a Lakers fan.
- 41:10Speaker 4: So I just made a joke off of something that
- 41:13Speaker 4: you gave to the world.
- 41:17Speaker 1: So that's why he spoke you.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Nah, after party has gotta be awkward after y'all all
- 41:24Speaker 3: these people.
- 41:25Speaker 4: I don't know if he saw me. He had on shades.
- 41:27Speaker 4: I saw him walking through, you know, the slow bop,
- 41:29Speaker 4: and I just like, oh, there's marm If you would
- 41:32Speaker 4: have said something, what are you gonna What is he
- 41:34Speaker 4: going to say? I don't appreciate that ship. You said that,
- 41:36Speaker 4: I said, what were you talking about?
- 41:41Speaker 1: Was there any joke he was nervous to tell in
- 41:43Speaker 1: those moments.
- 41:47Speaker 4: If anything, the Chappelle joke, because only only because he
- 41:52Speaker 4: wasn't out there, Like I wanted him to see that ship.
- 41:54Speaker 4: I want him to be there and be like, oh
- 41:57Speaker 4: that was you know, that was good or whatever. But
- 42:00Speaker 4: I heard that he wasn't mad about the joke. He
- 42:02Speaker 4: was maga I said it specially wasn't funny.
- 42:04Speaker 5: That's the part too, that I thought that would get
- 42:06Speaker 5: you a little like not a conversation a bit, that's.
- 42:09Speaker 1: The word thing you can say to a comedian.
- 42:10Speaker 4: Yeah, but once again, it was in jest. I think
- 42:13Speaker 4: that its special was amazing. I'm a fan.
- 42:16Speaker 1: I don't believe it.
- 42:17Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I thought it was good. But I don't.
- 42:21Speaker 4: You know, you're not a liar.
- 42:23Speaker 1: You're not gonna just say something like that.
- 42:24Speaker 4: I don't, right, I'm not a liar, So why would
- 42:26Speaker 4: I say that if I don't think it was good?
- 42:27Speaker 1: Because even if.
- 42:28Speaker 5: It's punching up as a comedian, you know, like Dave
- 42:30Speaker 5: Chapelle's want to be best right, and you're saying you
- 42:33Speaker 5: don't even be telling jokes?
- 42:34Speaker 6: Where basically where you go? Where's Dave Chappelle?
- 42:37Speaker 4: I said what I said was I saw your last special.
- 42:40Speaker 4: Some jokes would have been nice, And it's because there
- 42:43Speaker 4: was a lot of it was speechy, yeah, but it
- 42:46Speaker 4: was still engaging. I watched the whole thing. It's hard
- 42:50Speaker 4: to watch somebody special top to bottom. Like, you know,
- 42:53Speaker 4: I think Special should be back in the half hour
- 42:56Speaker 4: range that our shit is, Like, yo, you got so
- 42:58Speaker 4: many distractions and your phone. You know you're doing this,
- 43:01Speaker 4: doing that. I think specially should be a half hour.
- 43:05Speaker 4: But Dave, I love Dave Chappelle. He's my favorite comedian,
- 43:09Speaker 4: hands down him than cav No. I'm sorry me, Chappelle.
- 43:17Speaker 3: What's something at twenty five you wanted that you don't
- 43:19Speaker 3: even care about no more, you don't even care about
- 43:21Speaker 3: having it?
- 43:23Speaker 4: Whole bunch of bussy? I mean, is that not real?
- 43:31Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, absolutely, I was speaking on a professional level.
- 43:37Speaker 5: That's did you get all of it that you wanted?
- 43:40Speaker 5: Or are you just more disciplined?
- 43:41Speaker 6: Like what?
- 43:42Speaker 4: Yeah? Man? Yeah, I have my run. I had my run.
- 43:45Speaker 4: You know I still I still like. I'm not like
- 43:48Speaker 4: I don't like men or anything now. I still like
- 43:52Speaker 4: but you got to put that out there. You know,
- 43:56Speaker 4: people think things. But at twenty five, ship, I was
- 44:01Speaker 4: a starving artist. I wanted a car, a home, money,
- 44:08Speaker 4: the things that I eventually got. But nah, that's about it. Yeah,
- 44:15Speaker 4: I can't think anything else.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Was worth it in his totality for me.
- 44:21Speaker 3: Just yeah, for you, but also I guess for the
- 44:23Speaker 3: for the for the brand of Kevin too as well,
- 44:26Speaker 3: because that still impacts you.
- 44:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess it remains to be seen. But
- 44:31Speaker 4: he said he got a lot of a lot of
- 44:32Speaker 4: good things in the work. So what they have happened
- 44:36Speaker 4: without the roads, I'm sure the backlash. The good thing
- 44:41Speaker 4: about social media is something else is going to happen tomorrow.
- 44:44Speaker 1: Yeah you get about it Breakfast Club, well.
- 44:50Speaker 4: But you know things are going to happen and people
- 44:52Speaker 4: will forget about that. But for me, yeah, it was
- 44:56Speaker 4: it was worth it. This is my fifth time up here,
- 44:59Speaker 4: and every time I've come up here, I really it
- 45:01Speaker 4: was just conversation. This first time I came up here
- 45:03Speaker 4: and had something to actually talk about that was current.
- 45:06Speaker 4: So yeah, it's beneficial to me. I've sold some tickets
- 45:10Speaker 4: after this, I'll sell a few more tickets, and yeah
- 45:13Speaker 4: it was a plus.
- 45:14Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us, brother Lan.
- 45:18Speaker 2: You can check check them on to it. How can
- 45:20Speaker 2: they follow you? I have one last question.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Let's just say, fifteen years from that, right, when people
- 45:28Speaker 3: talk about this era of comedy, what do you hope
- 45:30Speaker 3: they say about naim Lynn That has nothing to do with.
- 45:33Speaker 4: Kevin as a comedian or as a person comedian. As
- 45:38Speaker 4: a comedian, he didn't want to I think in fifteen years,
- 45:43Speaker 4: people would just be like Yo. I always wanted to
- 45:46Speaker 4: be a comedians comedian the person that when I get
- 45:49Speaker 4: on stage, the other comic stop what they're doing to
- 45:51Speaker 4: see what I have to say now, And I feel
- 45:54Speaker 4: like I've achieved that, and I just want to be
- 45:56Speaker 4: just respected over and over again. The most what's love
- 46:00Speaker 4: that I got off this roast was from the other comics,
- 46:03Speaker 4: even comics that we don't even really like each other.
- 46:05Speaker 4: They're like, Yo, you fucking killed that shit. So I
- 46:09Speaker 4: appreciate my peers and their opinion. So in fifteen years
- 46:14Speaker 4: from now, I want people to be like Yo. He
- 46:17Speaker 4: holds his own. I don't really care about somebody saying
- 46:19Speaker 4: I was the funniest of the group or anything like that.
- 46:21Speaker 4: I don't care. That's all subjective. But like Yo, he's
- 46:24Speaker 4: a headliner within his own right. He holds his own.
- 46:27Speaker 4: We saw where he came from. At this point fifteen
- 46:29Speaker 4: years later, he's doing all the things that he wanted
- 46:32Speaker 4: to do, and I respect his grind. That's it, because
- 46:36Speaker 4: I've never tried to just live off of Kevin what
- 46:39Speaker 4: he has going. I've always simultaneously been working on my
- 46:41Speaker 4: own career. So and the people know that because especially
- 46:45Speaker 4: the other comedians. So when they look back, I'm like, yo,
- 46:48Speaker 4: he did it. That's what I want to happen fifteen
- 46:51Speaker 4: years from now.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Wow. Oh.
- 46:53Speaker 2: And also our first guest on Netflix.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Netflix. You know we start live on Netflix today.
- 47:00Speaker 2: That our first guest.
- 47:02Speaker 1: On that coming on Netflix, shooting on Netflix, p Tony.
- 47:08Speaker 4: Cliff that's right.
- 47:09Speaker 2: And the writers and the white writers with people.
- 47:12Speaker 5: See he wanted to know people that support you to
- 47:13Speaker 5: you get to the place and then boom, look now
- 47:15Speaker 5: all of the headlines support.
- 47:17Speaker 4: Okay, yeah that's my brothers. But yeah, I mean that's
- 47:20Speaker 4: what's up. I didn't know that. So Gretchen old men
- 47:23Speaker 4: check and now y'all old me in checking.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Its ladies and gentlemen.
- 47:28Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Every day a week ago.
- 47:34Speaker 1: Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
- 47:36Speaker 4: Finish for y'all.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Dump