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Matt Postins talks Big 12 basketball & football, Vinnie Iyer on the NFL & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi Mary Connor welcome back. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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  network wherever you're listening in the state of I
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  would glad that you are bottom of the hour.
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  We'll speak with Vinny I recovers the NFL for the
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  pics circus sports sponsor those that's coming up about oh 10
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  minutes or so before 2O clock. But we start our number 2 and
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  before we go to break in our number 2, just by the way, we've
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  been talking about those hams, those Thanksgiving hams.
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  Trent Guy, Bruce Lambert from 4hams.com is going to jump on
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  for just a couple of minutes because there are deadlines if
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  you want one delivered to your home in time for Thanksgiving.
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  So Bruce coming up here in about 15 minutes.
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  But right now, Matt Postons, he covers the Big 12 for Heartland
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  College Sports, Heartland College sports.com, and he joins
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  the program. Hello Matt Postons, how are you?
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  I'm good and I'm excited that I am the lead in for him.
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  How about that? You know, you know, I you, you,
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  you worked last night. Call it that.
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  I I love that description of watching sports as I do.
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  At least my wife's convinced that that's what I'm doing.
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  You watched Iowa State and Mississippi State, so let's
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  start there. I thought, you know, just
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  personally, I thought, wow, this can be a hell of a fight because
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  both teams came out just slugging each other defensively
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  and then Iowa State pulled away and it's their senior guard and
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  Trent and I spent some time on this just, you know, hoping he
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  gets the best of health in his senior year because if tame and
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  lips he can stay healthy. What a difference he makes.
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  How he was so good last night. Your thoughts on TJ squad?
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  Yeah, he lips, he had a great game.
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  And I think that's really that's a nice confidence boost for the
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  entire group because of the, you know, he had the offseason
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  issues from a health standpoint. He didn't get cleared until
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  right before the opener. So you're you're kind of
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  wondering, well, how quickly is it going to take him to get, you
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  know, ramped up and ready to go? And he looked like he was ready
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  for Big 12 play last night. I mean, he was fantastic, but
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  you know, the star of that show is the defense.
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  You force 26 turnovers, you do that every game, you're gonna
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  win practically every game. And that's what Iowa State's
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  defense has always been geared to do.
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  I, I thought they did a fantastic job of just kind of
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  squeezing the vice throughout the game and just making things
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  harder and harder for Mississippi State.
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  And you know it. There's a typical Iowa State
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  game and, and they needed a, they needed a good test, a high
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  major test to kind of show everybody in college basketball
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  that they're the same team they were a year ago.
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  Not everybody played high major games last week.
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  Obviously Arizona, BYU did, Kansas did, Oklahoma State did,
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  but they needed a win like that against a team that went to the
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  NCAA tournament last year and lost to Baylor in the first
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  round. So a solid win for them.
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  They played great, but I think the big take away is how well
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  lips he played in that game. A career high 25 points, 6
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  assists, 3 steals. They only turned the ball over 9
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  times. That's a big deal when you're
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  talking about turnover differential.
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  When you can force 26 and turn that into 29 points and only
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  give out the ball 9 times you you got a pretty solid recipe to
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  win a lot of games. Matt one of the surprises of the
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  first week of the season, I think in the Big 12, it's just
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  been Houston hasn't hit the ground running.
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  I mean, they were struggling with Townsend deep into the
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  second-half of that one. Lehigh they couldn't get much
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  separation. I mean, not exactly the who's
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  who of college basketball. We'll see him Sunday against
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  Auburn and definitely a no look team but I just figured with
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  Yuzon and Toddler coming back in and sharpen along with the news
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  comers, they were just going to be dominating right from the get
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  go. Hasn't been the case any concern
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  at all with the Cougars. I honestly don't.
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  I mean, the three guys you mentioned right there, that's
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  their core. All three of those guys played
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  on the national finalist team last year.
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  They've all improved. I think Tugler has the chance to
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  make a a Juwan Roberts type of improvement from year to year
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  now that he's going to be the number one guy inside.
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  But you know, they held on to a lot of young guys.
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  You know, they had a really good freshman class last year.
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  None of them hit the portal. They all stayed.
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  They have a tremendous freshman class this year.
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  You know, it looks like Kelvin Stanton has committed to to
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  starting Chris Cenac and giving him run there.
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  There's going to be, I think they're going to have little
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  dips and valleys kind of like they had two years ago early in
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  non conference. But I think once they get into
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  conference play, knowing Kelvin, you know, they're they're going
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  to have their rotations down. Their freshmen are going to be
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  in very defined roles and should be in very good shape.
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  He's admitted this is a different team than a year ago
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  and he's treating it like a much different team.
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  But the the fundamentals of what they do right are still there.
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  They're a defense first team. They're going to play very much
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  1/2 court game. They're going to look to grind
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  you out because all those guys committed to playing the type of
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  defense they like to play. I'm really not that worried
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  about that. I know there was a lot of talk
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  on social media when they moved up to #1 on Monday.
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  They probably should have been number one in the first place,
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  to be honest with you, even with all the newcomers they had.
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  But now I'm not worried. I'm really not this.
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  This team is built for the long haul.
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  And when you're built for the long haul, you're not
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  necessarily going to look like a a great team right out of the
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  gate. One of the stories I think of
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  this conference just going to be the elite freshman talent,
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  Peterson from K, You saw them against North Carolina.
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  What it did till the two halves that game was was that Friday,
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  whatever night it was obviously Pete with Arizona, Debansa with
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  BYU you mentioned seen active at the big at at Houston.
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  There is an incredibly I really like tour 8 Iowa State.
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  There's some incredibly talented freshmen as there always are.
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  But it just seems that this group is off to a terrific start
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  as we as the Big 12 Conference play gets underway, but the
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  season overall gets underway. No, there's a bumper crop in
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  this conference this year of high level guys who have, you
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  know, bought into the idea of playing high level college
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  basketball at least for a year. Many of these guys could be 1
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  and done guys. Certainly Peterson appears to be
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  that kind of player, but I think Pete kind of made it look like
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  he might be that type of player this year too.
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  But you know, there's a half dozen 8 freshmen that are going
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  to make immediate impacts once you get into Big 12 play.
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  And the fact that you see Pete and the bounced and Peterson
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  playing well so early and and got a great freshman who's
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  played well too, you know, the fact that they're playing well,
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  right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's really
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  good. Yeah, he's really good too.
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  He had a great game against Washington.
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  The fact that they're playing so well right now and that they've
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  become so integrated in what their what their teams are
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  already doing, it really bodes well for where they can be once
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  they get the conference play. Because you know, last year,
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  when you think about Igor Demen, really good player, but he just,
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  he wasn't quite ready for high major basketball in certain
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  places, especially with the shooting as a tremendous passer.
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  But he just wasn't, you know, where he needed to be from a
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  ball handling and a shooting standpoint.
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  These guys are all ready. And you, you're saw it this past
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  week. If you watched enough games, you
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  saw how ready these guys are to make a contribution, to make an
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  impact. Yeah, it's it's it's really.
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  This is the best freshman class I can remember in quite.
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  Some time. How about that?
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  So we go over to football with you, Matt, and with it, Texas
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  Tech already 9 and one inside track to that conference
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  championship game. They wrap up at home against
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  UUCF and then at West Virginia. We'll see about West Virginia at
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  the end. We know tricky things can happen
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  up there at the end of the season, but it looks like cruise
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  control from here. 11 and one conference championship game.
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  Do you feel they're a lot to be in the College Football Playoff
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  regardless of what happens in Arlington?
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  Or still more hay to get in the barn.
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  If they're 11 and 1 going into the title game, they're a lot.
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  Regardless of what happens, you got to think about the playoff
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  field from last year. Every team that made it had
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  every power conference team that made it had at least 10 or more
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  wins going into championship weekend.
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  Going into the selection show, one team got left out, that was
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  Miami. There were ten and two.
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  So if you have ten wins going into conference championship
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  weekend, regardless of whether you are in the championship game
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  or not, you have a chance to be considered.
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  You have a right to be considered.
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  So if Tech is 11 and one and let's just say Baylor or I'm
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  sorry, BYU is 11 and one, for instance, or Cincinnati is 11
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  and one because they have to play each other in a couple
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  weeks. If those are the two teams
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  playing in the in the in the Big 12 title game, they're both 11
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  and one. Both have legitimate chances to
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  make the playoffs regardless of what happened in that game.
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  This isn't going to be like TCU and Kansas State where, you
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  know, TCU was probably going to go regardless in Kansas State
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  was not going to get in even if they won the title game.
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  This is a totally different situation.
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  So for me, you know their tech as a lock at their 11 and one
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  and they're playing in Arlington.
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  The fun thing right now is with three weeks left, there's only
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  one team in the country right now with 10 or more wins in a
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  power conference and that's Indiana.
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  But that's sinking for a minute. It's November 11th, and the only
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  team in the country with 10 or more wins of Indiana, there's a
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  distinct possibility that we might have fewer than 11 power
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  conference teams with 10 or more wins, which opens the door, I
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  think, for more SEC teams to get in because they just seem to be
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  pummeling one another. And I could see a lot of those
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  teams being nine and three and, you know, thinking they're on
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  the outside looking in. But if you have fewer than 11
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  power conference teams that had 10 or more wins, a couple of
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  those teams are going to slip in.
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  You know, you just mentioned an incredibly important game.
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  Assuming everything goes to play this week, Cincinnati and BYU
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  when the schedule came out, did anyone circle this on the
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  penultimate week at the regulars?
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  Well, there's a must win. There's a must watch game.
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  This is a big, big spot for both of those schools.
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  And very few people that other than their fan bases that, you
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  know, they cover the sport from a far type of thing, thought,
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  well, this game is going to have something to do with whoever
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  gets to the championship game. And it's going to in all
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  likelihood. It's going to be a huge game
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  ascending. Both teams win this weekend
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  because, you know, BYU obviously hasn't played in a conference
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  championship game since they've been in the Big 12.
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  I'm not even sure they played in the conference championship game
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  when they were in the Mountain West that I'd have to look that
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  up to be sure. Cincinnati last played in a
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  conference championship game in 2021 when they were playing in
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  the American that winner defeated and then Sauce Gardner
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  and they got launched into the CFP that the only Group of Five
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  school to make it into the CFP in the old format.
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  So, yeah, I I'll be honest with you, in July, at this time of
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  the year, I thought that BYU might be contending.
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  And this was before Jake Retzloff and all the other stuff
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  quarterback happened. And I thought Cincinnati would
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  be looking for a new head coach, honestly.
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  Well, they might be because he's going to have options, yeah.
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  Yeah. So the fact, the fact that we're
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  talking about this game potentially being the game that
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  decides who Tech, most likely Texas Tech, plays in the Big 12
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  championship game, it's kind of jarring, to be honest with you.
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  And that game is in Cincinnati. Yeah, Speaking of jarring, it's
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  crazy. And it's crazy.
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  We gave Matt Campbell's group no shot going to take on TCU.
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  I mean, the the secondary just absolutely decimated, banged up
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  up front. Obviously TCU could throw the
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  ball around. Hoover's a terrific quarterback.
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  And yet somehow, someway, the Campbell seemingly does it every
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  year when it seems like you don't get out, the spade gets
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  ready to throw some dirt on this cyclone group.
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  He did it again. I have no idea how other than
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  the fact that's a, you know, you come to expect one of these a
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  year. Maybe this was it gave him no
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  chance and they somehow prevailed.
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  Matt. Yeah.
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  And we're at the time of the year now where these teams that
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  are seemingly out of the race. And if you if you have three or
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  more losses right now, you're you're basically out of the
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  conference title game race unless something just insane
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  happens that the next three weeks with the teams above them.
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  So we're at that time of the year where I don't think the
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  records matter nearly as much as they do.
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  Maybe a few weeks ago, you're going to have games like that,
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  you know, West Virginia going to Houston, to Houston.
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  What in the world? What in the world?
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  What in the heck? I mean, Houston would be right
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  there if not for that loss. I mean, they still have the
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  tiebreaker lost to Texas Tech, but they would be, we'd be
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  talking about them this week too if they hadn't lost that game.
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  Weird things happen in November. Like you talked about Texas Tech
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  having to go to West Virginia. Texas Tech should win that game,
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  but it's West Virginia and it's November and you just never know
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  what you're going to get. So I feel like that Iowa State
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  TCU game was another one of those.
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  You just never know what you're going to get in November.
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  But in those kinds of games, when you have teams that are
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  seemingly at that at this point, either average or or slightly
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  above average, and you put them on a field together, weird
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  things happen. The fact that that game was in
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  Fort Worth led me to believe TCU would win.
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  But Iowa State winning and pulling that off?
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  Nice feather for them as they try to get ready for a bowl
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  game. Final week of the regular
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  season, we'll get to see Iowa State against the Cowpokes,
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  Oklahoma State, who was just getting throttled week after
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  week after week. Who are some of the candidates
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  that are realistic? Because I'll be honest, I've
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  completely checked out. I mean, we've seen the Domino's
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  fall. So many big, more prestigious
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  programs have job openings right now.
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  The the dream of like an Alex Golish, he's not going to take
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  that job. There's going to be certainly
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  higher ones there. Who are some of the names that
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  are realistically out there for Okie State?
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  Yeah, this is a bad time to be looking for a head coach given
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  everything that's happened in the SEC and all these other big
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  time jobs that have opened up. You know, I think Golish will
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  probably, I think he'll probably still take an interview with
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  Oklahoma State just because, you know, he was there for a little
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  while. But yeah, he's going to have
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  bigger opportunities. I, I, I, I still say go offer
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  Jeff trailer the moon down at UTSAI think he's very frustrated
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  with the NIL situation there. I think he is somewhat
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  frustrated with the, the, the fan base situation down there.
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  It seems like he's saying things weekly that just seem kind of
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  odd to me in terms of the guy who was signed a long term deal
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  to be there. I think this might be the time
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  where he says to himself, this might be a time for me to go to
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  a power conference job. He's seeing what his buddy Joey
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  McGuire is doing at Texas Tech. They're both former high school
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  football coaches. They both went the college
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  assistant route to get in position to be head coaches at
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  the college level. He's staying with Joey McGuire
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  is doing. Obviously he's a competitive
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  dude. He won three streets, 3 state
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  titles at Gilmer before he became an assistant coach of
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  Texas. I could see, I could see him
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  being a leading candidate by the time the season's over just by
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  virtue of his Texas ties, the ability to recruit in the state,
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  the fact that he turned UTSA around so quickly and the fact
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  that, you know, this might be the right time for him to
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  finally pounce on a high major job.
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  Right now. I think he's I think he's the
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  guy that has the best shot to get it.
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  Because you're right, Oklahoma State's not going to have their
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  pick of, you know, any high major or, or other power
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  conference coaches at this point.
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  They're going to have to go to the group of five route.
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  And right now he's probably the most attainable.
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  I don't think John Summerall is attainable because I think he's
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  going to go to an SEC school. I think Ryan Silverfield is
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  going to end up at an SEC school.
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  Like you said, Golish, I think he's going to have his pick of,
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  of options. I think I think Jeff Trailer is
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  going to be their best option. Yeah, fascinating stuff.
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  By the way, you mentioned Joey McGuire, and I read the piece at
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  Heartland College Sports, and I couldn't agree with you more.
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  I love the fact that he threw shade at Notre Dame without
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  naming them, but went to bat for BYU, who they just dispatched
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  over the weekend for taking the path that they did as opposed to
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  Notre Dame. That was I thought that was
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  really well done and Joey Mcguire's earned the right to do
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  that with the season he and his group are having.
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  Matt Postons Heartland College sports Heartland College sports
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  recovers the Big 12, both basketball and football.
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  Matt, love the relationship. Thanks for doing what you do and
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  we'll talk to you down the road. Thank you.
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  Matt Postons. Sounds good guys, go get some
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  ham. Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's next. We're going to have good stuff.
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  Matt Postons, Heartland College Sports.
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  You can follow Matt at Poston's postcards at Poston's postcards
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  for Matt's as Matt Poston's covers the Big 12.
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  He's right. The group of freshmen in this
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  conference, I think that's going to be one of the stories of the
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  year. Just how many?
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  Probably 1. And donors?
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  Probably 1. And Pete Peterson is for sure A1
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  and done, no doubt about that. All right, as we said, we've
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  been talking about this for the last 10 days or so.
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  The the hams that appears on my Thanksgiving table each and
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  every Thanksgiving. And we thought, you know what,
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  let's go right to the guys, Bruce, Lambert, Lambert and
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  yours. You can find them online for
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  hams, the number for hams.com, for hams.com.
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  And Bruce joins us. Bruce Trenton, Ken, thanks for
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  coming on. Good to talk to you.
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  Thanks for having me. Yeah, Well, I want to come right
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  to you because I know there's deadlines out there because you
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  guys ship these all over the state and obviously we're all
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  over the country, right? But tick tick ticking to towards
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  Thanksgiving. Why don't we start there?
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  Central Iowa deadline to go to 4hams.com and order your ham and
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  to to make sure to ensure that it gets to your place on time.
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  You know, we're all, first of all, let me stop and I want to
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  thank all of our veterans out there guys for keeping it,
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  keeping us free and safe. So I want to I want to shout out
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  to all of them right off the bat, but in Iowa, guys, you
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  know, it's one day UPS. So you know, we're already
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  prepared for the last minute guys.
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  So you can probably call us the weekend before Thanksgiving on
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  that 800 number or online and we could still get you taken care
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  of out of state. You know, it's probably the
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  weekend before. So we're probably looking, you
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  know, you should let us know. So we get those out the 17th and
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  everything up and make sure they arrive nice and cold this the
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  weekend before Thanksgiving. But locally we can still.
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  And if you're in the metro area, you know, you, you know, hell,
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  I'm hungry. Oops, sorry, Pression said that,
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  but I'm hungry. So, you know, you call us the
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  night before and I probably stay up all night and throw one in my
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  Toyota and get it out to you for Thanksgiving.
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  As you've done. Before so I have done it.
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  I have done it before. You are correct.
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  So yeah, it's that time though it's and you know, we always I
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  mean, I hate the winter. I hate the winter more than
• 18:22
  anybody, but the sooner it snaps cooler, the people start
• 18:25
  thinking about their ovens and they start thinking about ham
• 18:27
  dinners and it helps us out. So it's been a pretty nice fall
• 18:31
  and people are finally starting to realize, hey, holidays are
• 18:33
  coming and you know, it's time to stick a ham in the oven.
• 18:36
  So let's get on. Let's get on the website and get
• 18:39
  it ordered so. Bruce, it's time.
• 18:42
  It's time and Bruce, you know, also in our audience there are
• 18:46
  plenty of guys that are really good cooks, but there's also
• 18:49
  someones that struggle just a little bit.
• 18:52
  So Phyllis in all right, you're thinking about having some
• 18:55
  people over. Maybe it's friends, maybe it's
• 18:57
  family, doing it for the first time.
• 18:58
  How difficult of a process because it's cooked, it's done.
• 19:02
  Oh, man, that's I'm you know, I'm so excited to deal with
• 19:05
  these millenniums and just Sears, you know, because they,
• 19:08
  for one, they like stuff delivered.
• 19:10
  They don't want to talk to me. They don't see me.
• 19:11
  They don't want to smell me, you know, they just want something
• 19:14
  ordered. They want to deliver.
• 19:15
  They want people to tell them, hey, it's in, it's in South Des
• 19:18
  Moines now it's going north, you know, now it's in, you know, and
• 19:21
  God bless them. That's the way, you know, that's
• 19:23
  way the future and that's the way we handle our deliveries.
• 19:26
  But the ease of cooking a ham, I mean, we can take, you know, we
• 19:31
  can take the you know, we can almost have a three-year old
• 19:34
  make a make a Thanksgiving dinner with our ham.
• 19:37
  You know, it's that easy. They're fully cooked.
• 19:39
  They're already pre sliced, they're glazed or you just warm
• 19:42
  it. The matter of fact, the only way
• 19:44
  you can ruin it is to over warm it.
• 19:46
  So how about you know, you can't undercook it.
• 19:48
  You can eat a cold. Forgotten.
• 19:49
  I do. Have to, you know, so, yeah.
• 19:51
  And, and actually, I probably, you know, I actually sometimes
• 19:55
  warm mine a day and then, and then chill it and then rewarm
• 19:59
  it. I think you could leave a little
• 20:00
  bit better flavor. I don't want to be responsible
• 20:02
  for ruin anybody's refrigerator, you know, But yeah, it's, it's
• 20:07
  so easy to serve. I mean, it's so easy.
• 20:10
  The only thing you can do is overwarm it and that, you know,
• 20:13
  and go from there because it's just so easy.
• 20:16
  Sizes turn anybody into a cooking chef.
• 20:18
  You really, you really can. And as I said, I I I pick it
• 20:21
  right off and just start. I'm full but the time it goes
• 20:24
  into the oven. It's so good, you gotta be.
• 20:26
  Careful, you do, absolutely. So what about sizes, Obviously
• 20:30
  everybody's got different size of gatherings etcetera.
• 20:33
  Why don't you talk a minute about that?
• 20:35
  Sure, exactly. So we sell the ham two ways by
• 20:37
  the full ham, obviously that's the way it comes out of the
• 20:39
  smokehouse. You know, the leg falls off and
• 20:42
  we, we do our magic to it and there's a full ham going to
• 20:45
  weigh 15 to 16 lbs. You know, we buy them, you know,
• 20:48
  so that they come out that size almost every single time.
• 20:51
  It's, you know, meat science, you know, it's not really
• 20:53
  science, but it is science, you know.
• 20:55
  So we, you know, we've got our smoke houses formulated for the
• 20:58
  certain size of ham. So we sell that full ham, 1516
• 21:02
  lbs going to feed about 1/2 a pound per person with that bone
• 21:06
  in it. So you're talking, you know, 30
• 21:08
  people, you know, you just cut that in half.
• 21:10
  You got the average size Thanksgiving, you know, dinner,
• 21:13
  you know, 10/12/15 people, you're going to get a nice size
• 21:16
  half ham and, and you'll be good to go.
• 21:18
  And you can order on the website.
• 21:20
  There's different, you can even order a little bit smaller half
• 21:23
  ham and average size half a little bit bigger half ham.
• 21:25
  The whole hams are about the same always, but because if we
• 21:29
  put a too small one in there, it gets a little too dry.
• 21:31
  If we get too big, it doesn't dry out enough, you know?
• 21:34
  So we hit that sweet spot with that 15 LB ham coming out of the
• 21:37
  smokehouse. So yeah, you got two options,
• 21:40
  1/2 in the hole and we can take care of about anybody.
• 21:43
  Yeah. And you do it so well.
• 21:45
  It's phenomenal. Thank you.
• 21:47
  It's. Been doing it a long time and,
• 21:49
  and, and we like to think, we like to think we got it down.
• 21:53
  Yeah, you, you. It's perfect.
• 21:55
  Really is. It's been on my table.
• 21:56
  I've been saying it. And I can't imagine Thanksgiving
• 21:59
  without a spruce. Best of luck brother.
• 22:02
  Yes, thank you, Sir. Yep, anywhere in the state of
• 22:04
  Iowa. Anywhere.
• 22:05
  Anywhere but check them. Out anywhere, we can't.
• 22:07
  We can't go overseas. We have a lot of people say,
• 22:09
  hey, can I send one to my son serving over in Guam?
• 22:12
  We can't do that. We can get him.
• 22:14
  We can get him anywhere else, guys. 4hamsthe#4hams.com.
• 22:18
  4hams.com. 4 hams. Dot com Thanks Bruce.
• 22:21
  Happy Thanksgiving. Talk to you.
• 22:25
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  Miller and Condon on a Tuesday, Vinny Irenext Trents plays of
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  Sports Radio Network. I'm Hillary Condon, welcome
• 23:00
  back. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 23:02
  Network. Wherever listening in the state
• 23:03
  of Iowa. Glad that you are or anywhere on
• 23:05
  the I Heart app. Vinny Iyer, he covers the NFL
• 23:08
  for the Sporting News, sportingnews.com for Vinny also
• 23:12
  does his daily Locked on fantasy foot football podcast, part of
• 23:16
  the Locked on network. And Vinny joins us.
• 23:19
  Vinny Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on.
• 23:20
  Good to speak with you, you know, before we get into the
• 23:23
  NFLI, watched your, I watched your cats against USC on Friday
• 23:27
  night. I hadn't seen them.
• 23:29
  I don't think all year. Northwestern.
• 23:31
  They're a decent football team this year, Vinny.
• 23:34
  Yeah, they're decent. I think just the expansion of
• 23:37
  the Big 10, I mean, it's so huge now that you're going to have a
• 23:41
  wide range of styles of teams you play and look at that game,
• 23:47
  they just didn't have enough offense and they can win.
• 23:49
  That version of grinding away games, the running game and all
• 23:53
  that, it can take you pretty far, right?
• 23:55
  I mean, it's still a thing. If you play good defense, you
• 23:58
  can run the ball, you're going to have a chance in every game.
• 24:01
  But sometimes getting there, you're getting the explosive
• 24:04
  players you need is harder. And USC is kind of built on
• 24:07
  explosive players versus kind of the same parts of their game.
• 24:10
  So I think the Big 10 is going through a little bit of a
• 24:14
  culture shock. I think Ohio State is the
• 24:16
  exception because they've kind of played like a wide open West
• 24:20
  Coast or SEC team for a while now.
• 24:22
  So that's kind of the team that can adjust easily.
• 24:26
  But everyone else has been in an adjustment there with Oregon and
• 24:29
  Washington. And I know Washington's a little
• 24:32
  bit down, but Oregon is right up there.
• 24:34
  USC is having a pretty good season still at the playoff
• 24:37
  hunt. So it's just something to get
• 24:39
  used to. It's still odd, but that's a Big
• 24:42
  10 game. But it's really hard to believe
• 24:44
  that was first time since the Rose Bowl those teams have bet.
• 24:48
  Yeah, indeed, to the NFL, your primary beat, you know, it
• 24:52
  wasn't too many years ago. The trend I'd be talking about
• 24:54
  just how much powers in the AFC in the winner of the AFC is
• 24:57
  going to be definitely the favoured, whether it be the
• 24:59
  Patriots, obviously the Chiefs, the run they've had somebody in
• 25:02
  the AFC North and Vinny, I go through I, I think four teams
• 25:06
  before, you know, making a power rankings before I finally get to
• 25:09
  an AFC team and I just by default put the Chiefs down
• 25:13
  there. But the Lions and the Rams and
• 25:16
  the Seahawks and the Eagles, I think those four, you can put
• 25:19
  those four names in a hat. Where are you when it comes to
• 25:21
  the NFC and just how deep it is this year?
• 25:26
  Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of wide open.
• 25:28
  We don't still know who's going to win the West.
• 25:31
  We still don't know who's going to win the North, so that's a
• 25:34
  lot of stuff going on here. I think we feel good.
• 25:37
  The Tampa Bay and Philadelphia are going to win their division.
• 25:40
  So at least we know two playoff teams will be returning.
• 25:43
  But then it's wide open. Seattle's had a good season, but
• 25:46
  the test comes down. The couple with the Rams, one
• 25:48
  more with the 49ers. The 49ers will be able to
• 25:52
  overcome their injuries to rally here the second-half of the
• 25:55
  season. That's getting something to
• 25:56
  watch. Can the Bears keep it up here?
• 25:59
  I think you feel a lot better about Detroit going forward,
• 26:02
  what they're doing. So it could end up being full
• 26:05
  circle to what we used to recently with Philadelphia,
• 26:09
  Tampa Bay, Detroit, and then figuring out, hey, who's going
• 26:14
  to be that 14 that really competes here?
• 26:17
  And it's going to be the Rams or the Seahawks or 49ers, somebody
• 26:21
  else. If we got some new flavor in the
• 26:24
  Super Bowl out of the AFC, and I'm thinking specifically
• 26:27
  Patriots, Colts, Broncos, all of them eight and two, all of them
• 26:31
  on their way, potentially at minimum of hosting a playoff
• 26:34
  game. Who do you think for this year,
• 26:36
  and this year only has the most upside potential, the one out of
• 26:39
  that group of three, Colts, Patriots, Broncos, you could see
• 26:43
  actually getting to a Super Bowl.
• 26:46
  Yeah, that's a tough call because again, I think let's
• 26:49
  take out Denver. Let's take it about I know they
• 26:51
  have a defense, but I don't think they have enough offense.
• 26:54
  I don't. Need they got Bonex.
• 26:55
  They got Bonex. Yeah.
• 26:57
  Then you look at the Patriots, of course, I think both of those
• 26:59
  are legit, but teams, I think the Patriots are pretty complete
• 27:04
  here. And the quarterback, I think you
• 27:06
  would trust them a little bit more than Daniel Jones in a
• 27:09
  bigger moment. But Daniel Jones, keep in mind
• 27:11
  he won playoff games with the Giants.
• 27:14
  He did, yeah, on the road. So yeah.
• 27:16
  Yeah. So I think you can say, look, I
• 27:19
  think it's a tie between those two teams.
• 27:21
  I think the Colts are probably in a better position to get that
• 27:24
  number one seed still and the Patriots still have to deal with
• 27:28
  the Bills, even though it's opened up a little bit that
• 27:30
  lead. So I don't know.
• 27:32
  It's going to be, again, traditionally, it's tough to win
• 27:35
  in Foxborough in the cold months, though.
• 27:38
  I think whoever gets the home field there is going to be
• 27:40
  interesting. I don't believe in Denver, not
• 27:44
  just as the team that's going to be the number one seed or win
• 27:48
  the division, but just as a team that I think is going to maybe
• 27:52
  fade a little bit and be more of a wild card team in the
• 27:54
  second-half, if that. Because again, there's some
• 27:57
  teams charging there. I mean, we figure the Chiefs and
• 28:00
  Chargers are going to have something to do with it.
• 28:01
  I think the Jaguars are fading. So that might open the door up
• 28:05
  again for three SUS teams to make it.
• 28:08
  Yeah, I'm I'm with you, Vinny. Let's go to the North, however,
• 28:11
  and try to decipher this thing because Joe Burrow sounds like
• 28:15
  he's going to be back for Thanksgiving and if he is, what
• 28:18
  a huge boost that will be. Baltimore very much alive.
• 28:22
  They've won for the last three games.
• 28:24
  Now they've got their quarterback back.
• 28:25
  Pittsburgh. I never was a believer.
• 28:27
  I'm still not a believer is since Cincinnati out of this
• 28:31
  thing. I mean, I think you're going to
• 28:32
  have to win the division to get in.
• 28:34
  I don't see a wild card and I agree with your scenario that
• 28:37
  the two of the wild cards are coming out of the West.
• 28:40
  Is Cincinnati a live to win the AFC North?
• 28:43
  Assuming Borough is back, say Thanksgiving.
• 28:47
  Well, the schedule has really opened that door, right?
• 28:50
  I mean, the Bengals, if they can sweep the Steelers, they'll be a
• 28:53
  big part of that this week, get the job done.
• 28:56
  And they're still got one more game with Cleveland to the 2
• 28:59
  with Baltimore. So there's a lot riding on this
• 29:02
  and he's going to get back in time.
• 29:05
  Look, I think that game that they're going to look back on
• 29:07
  that they blew, really they blew two games.
• 29:09
  But the Bears are a tough team. The Jets game is the one that
• 29:13
  themselves about if they lose the division.
• 29:16
  But everyone has one of those, right?
• 29:18
  I mean, Baltimore's had plenty of those.
• 29:20
  I think Baltimore's schedule opens up better.
• 29:22
  But what might be interesting is I know the Steelers are in the
• 29:27
  top spot, but again, if they lose the Bengals this week, I
• 29:31
  think the power is going to shift to the Bengals and Ravens
• 29:34
  being the two team race at this point.
• 29:36
  I mean, the Bengals can win. And The funny thing is the
• 29:39
  quarterback is not for the problem ever since they acquired
• 29:42
  Joe Flacco, it's can they stop anyone?
• 29:44
  That's the concern for the Ravens.
• 29:46
  Defense also was not playing well and the Steelers will also
• 29:49
  not play well. So ultimately offense could
• 29:51
  still decide this division, which is where it say.
• 29:55
  Vinny are joining us from The Sporting News and Locked on
• 29:57
  Fantasy football. Got a fantasy question for you
• 29:59
  here in just a little bit. Continuing through some of the
• 30:02
  nuts and bolts though, we have a firing Dable gone Jackson Dart 4
• 30:07
  concussions. How big of a component was that?
• 30:11
  I mean, I think it's hard to blame a coach for concussions,
• 30:15
  but he kept going out there. Was it too?
• 30:18
  I mean, there's AI know there's a lot of layers to all of this,
• 30:21
  but does that go hand in hand with this firing and what we've
• 30:23
  seen from Jackson Dart and the injuries?
• 30:27
  Yeah, I think there's a lad. I think they were just looking
• 30:30
  for an entry point of like, OK, when are we going to cool off
• 30:33
  here? I think, I mean, I think you
• 30:35
  can't totally forget about that Broncos game from a few weeks
• 30:39
  ago with the lead and they had all the momentum.
• 30:42
  They were feeling good. They got those wins against the
• 30:45
  Chargers and Eagles, right. They were feeling like there
• 30:47
  might be a turn around and then that game looked like, oh, the
• 30:51
  giants might be pushing in the right direction when they melted
• 30:54
  down in the fourth quarter. Then you had the bears game well
• 30:58
  in hand and they'll start going down and help, but they still
• 31:01
  have a lead to protect from the way they played the late night
• 31:04
  game was not very good. So maybe just all things
• 31:07
  consider was building up for a while.
• 31:09
  Then they realized, OK, when we have the worst record now in the
• 31:12
  NFC with the winning a game dart maybe having a missed time, this
• 31:18
  might be time to get us a head start on looking for head coach.
• 31:22
  Are they trying to tank by playing Russell Wilson over
• 31:24
  Jameis Wilson? Not that Jameis Winston's going
• 31:26
  to Canton. Russell Wilson's been washed for
• 31:29
  years. He's absolutely disgraced and is
• 31:31
  stealing money every time he straps on his helmet or shows up
• 31:35
  in the building. I have no idea what teams
• 31:37
  continue to see in this Guy's been a long time since he's been
• 31:40
  in Seattle. Why?
• 31:41
  Why is Russell Wilson still on a still on an NFL Phil roster?
• 31:44
  I don't get it, Vinny. Yeah, I don't know.
• 31:48
  I mean, he's definitely lost something there.
• 31:51
  I think the loss of all this just started maybe in Seattle.
• 31:55
  He used to be a very durable quarterback when he had some
• 31:57
  injuries. I think even in mind, this
• 31:59
  dude's taken a lot of hits over the years too.
• 32:02
  Backs and hits have really piled up over the years for him.
• 32:06
  And he's not the same type of athlete and runners the way he
• 32:08
  was as a younger quarterback as well.
• 32:11
  That was his big deal, right? He's jaw-dropping plays.
• 32:14
  He would make off improvisation and just be out there, make
• 32:18
  these plays. Now.
• 32:19
  The funny thing is like if you just put his decade in Seattle
• 32:22
  by itself, you say Hall of Fame. This is a whole career, right?
• 32:26
  So, and I, I still think when we pull back in time to say look at
• 32:31
  all the stuff he did in Seattle, we're going to look at that.
• 32:34
  So it's basically 2 careers. Look, the second act doesn't
• 32:38
  always work for everybody. It worked for Bill Flacco.
• 32:41
  Overall, second act in some ways has been more impressive than
• 32:45
  the first act. But like some people just can't
• 32:48
  do it right. I mean, sometimes they're just
• 32:50
  best off being a starter and when they lose it, they have to
• 32:53
  be a backup there. It's not going to be the same.
• 32:55
  So I think Russell Wilson is just one of those quarterbacks.
• 32:59
  And again, we'll see if let's be on the line.
• 33:01
  We'll see if the Raiders still let me give him a shot here.
• 33:06
  Breakdown with Gina Smith, I don't know.
• 33:08
  That would maybe be a last last resort, or otherwise it looks
• 33:12
  like he might be on the lead. Just one more thing on this, and
• 33:15
  I thought you had a really poignant and made a great point.
• 33:19
  Russell Wilson Hall of Fame career in Seattle.
• 33:21
  I agree with you. Is he playing his way out of the
• 33:23
  Hall of Fame? Can you do that?
• 33:26
  I'm not sure that can happen too much.
• 33:28
  I mean, it just really is a time, right?
• 33:30
  He may have played himself out of maybe being like an early.
• 33:34
  Yes, good point. Like Matthew Stafford's part of
• 33:37
  playing himself, even though he doesn't have a lot of
• 33:39
  credentials that would traditionally look at in terms
• 33:43
  of the Pro Bowls and all pros. And he's the highest he's ever
• 33:46
  finished MVP 8. I know he's having MVP like
• 33:50
  season. I don't think personally he's
• 33:52
  the Rams MVP. I think it's a very complete
• 33:55
  loaded team. Like I don't think he's carrying
• 33:58
  the Ram, so I'll just say that. An offensive line to the
• 34:01
  greatest receivers we've seen and running back.
• 34:04
  So I mean, yeah, I think he's just executing a very good
• 34:07
  offense. And really, Sean McVeigh, should
• 34:09
  we get any more buzz for coach of the year?
• 34:12
  But when you look at it like I don't know what MVP is anymore,
• 34:15
  Like I didn't think Alan was better than Lamar Jackson last
• 34:18
  year. So whatever you want to look at
• 34:20
  it, I think he can surge in being in the Hall of Fame and
• 34:23
  that's what I'm more interested with that Stafford again, but
• 34:26
  this type of season late in his career, I think he's going to
• 34:29
  stamp it because again, he doesn't have the accolades.
• 34:32
  So everyone else is a regular season plus contemporary have
• 34:37
  that line is a good example. I think Ryan has Hall of Fame
• 34:40
  credentials. If he wins the Super Bowl, I
• 34:43
  think he's a stone cold lock. But I still think you've been
• 34:46
  back there with Stafford. I think if they make one more
• 34:49
  run here and he keeps playing well and Trump based offense for
• 34:53
  another couple years, that's going to be in there as.
• 34:55
  Well, yeah, another Super Bowl go a long way.
• 34:58
  Excellent point. Vinny Iyer from The Sporting
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• 35:06
  Vinny, as always, thanks for doing this.
• 35:07
  Appreciate it. Thanks guys.
• 35:10
  Good to talk to you, Vinny Iyer, as we check in on the NFL.
• 35:14
  All right, Trent, not a Russell Wilson fan.
• 35:16
  Did you notice just? A little bit.
• 35:21
  It's personal. It is.
• 35:22
  Yes, it is. You're 1000% right.
• 35:24
  Yeah. He leads to the Denver Broncos.
• 35:27
  They had to be willing. To give the.
• 35:29
  Money, they wrote the check willing they.
• 35:30
  Didn't have a gun to their. Head.
• 35:31
  No, True, true. But he is a salesman.
• 35:35
  He's a con man. You know who he is?
• 35:36
  I said all the time. And if you watch movies, I don't
• 35:39
  watch many of them, but I watch Josie Wales.
• 35:41
  He's the guy in the white tuxedo selling the elixir that Josie
• 35:45
  Wales spits tobacco juice all over his white tuxedo.
• 35:48
  That's Russell Wilson 1/4 before 2.
• 35:52
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• 36:42
  There's college hoops aplenty. Where will you be putting your
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  wagering dollars? Well, we're already firing and.
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  There's games already, Terry. Oh yeah, we got a big match up.
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  The team that always screws you up on the bottom line, Iona,
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  they're down in Kansas City taking on the ruse.
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  A 17 point lead for the Gales in that one.
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  But 7, seven games and I went through.
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  I got too many underdogs again. I don't, I don't know.
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  I got 7 plays. They're probably going to be
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  terrible. 7 plays any football, no wake.
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  Forest plus 15 1/2. Against Michigan.
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  At Michigan, want to see and I want to see Omaha Blue tonight
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  as he plays for Wake. Forest I forgot.
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  About him Big 12 teams, Cincinnati, the Battle of
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  Ohio's. They host Dayton, my lone
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  favorite of the night. Gonna lay the five and a half
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  with the Bearcats and then we get into the battle of
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  Connecticut. No Yukons not involved.
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  Quinnipiac against Yale. I'll grab Quinnipiac in the
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  seven and a half. I mean, how can you say no to
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  that with an in state rivalry game?
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  How about Wofford getting 27 1/2?
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  Kind of a look ahead spot here for Auburn.
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  That's the way that I handicapped this one.
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  Look ahead for Auburn as they got Houston on deck this
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  weekend. Grab the 27 in the hook with the
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  Terriers of Wofford. All right, back to normal games.
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  We got three decent ones to wrap things up.
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  Now you got Creighton Gonzaga in there, yes.
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  Good. Give me the points all day long.
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  Hell yeah. 11 1/2. That's too many.
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  Yes, Memphis get 9 1/2 in a quasi rivalry game against Ole
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  Miss. Yeah, I'll grab all those points
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  and I'll do the same because this team's going to win out,
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  right? Oh, tech's going to throttle
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  Illinois. Are you saying the wrong team is
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  favored? Wrong team favored.
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  Give me the Red Raiders plus the four and a little a little
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  sprinkle on that money line. All right, good stuff.
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  That's the plays of the day. Circus Sports sponsor those
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  losing day yesterday to start the week for you One.
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  And one one was the money go. Well, but still not as bad as it
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  could have been. Well, what do you expect to hear
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  on the TV show tonight? What?
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  Will you? I will hear nothing.
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  About what will you be pissed off about that you read?
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  But I will see what the I don't know, will they sneak in a group
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  of five team? Well, they weren't even in the
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  top 25 last week. Well, does that mean?
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  But who would sneak in there? USF, right?
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  They are and they're and they've got some really good wins early
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  here. I hope it's them.
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  I hope it's them. Just put them in there.
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  Yeah, make it easier. Yeah, I'm with you.
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  We'll see where it goes. Good stuff.
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  All right, nice. Just talk to USC tomorrow.
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  They got so many skilled guys. Trent, this is not going to be
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  easy. But Kyle Lemon is so.
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  Good. He certainly is.
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  So is King Miller. They're both.
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  They've got 2 running backs. Yes.
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  And my Eve is a good has good quarterbacks.
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  This is a Phil Parker special. It has to be for the Hawks to
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  have a chance. Good luck.
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  What's the number 6 1/2? All right, that'll do it for us.
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  We'll be back tomorrow at noon. Coming up next, as we mentioned
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  off the bench, Lucas and Sean, every day starts at 6:00 AM.
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  The first quarter gets underway with Heather Burnside and Alec
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  Bussey. Thanks for being with us.
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