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S5 125. Ali Siadatan – The 1000-year Reign & UFO'S Angels and gods · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Welcome back to the Millennium Mustard Seed.
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  I am your host Rod, and thanks for being here with me for
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  another awesome episode. I'm joined by Ali Sietatan and
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  we have a fascinating conversation.
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  I've been waiting quite some time to have Ali on the podcast,
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  just if you guys do not know who he is.
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  Ali had a UFO encounter in the deserts of Iran a very long time
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  ago that actually led to a documentary that he produced
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  called UFOs, Angels and Gods, and he even worked with minds
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  like the late doctor Chuck Missler.
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  On that documentary that was released back in 2006, Ali has a
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  fascinating testimony. We jump into some deep questions
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  that I have as we start to accelerate in this recording
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  regarding the millennial reign of Christ.
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  Ali takes the floor and literally just has me falling
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  out of the chair with some of his responses.
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  I feel like this is very edifying.
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  This is a deep and thorough, very well done episode with Ali
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  just because the information he lays out, Most of you may have
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  never heard it this way before. I'm not insinuating.
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  For those of you out there who are going to the church and
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  challenging your pastors, why haven't you told us what we've
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  heard on Rod's podcast? Listen, that's not the goal
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  here, you guys. Pastors get taught a certain way
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  in seminary. Not everybody wants to jump into
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  ancient Sanskrit and to ancient. Hebrew and Greek.
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  A lot of the times they get a mile wide understanding of the
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  Bible. That's about an inch or two.
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  Deep. And pastors are a job title in
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  the five fold ministry. So we cannot beat up on pastors
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  because they don't understand things that I may talk about,
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  but challenging the narrative and allowing the body to work as
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  a unified member where we actually all start to fit
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  together. Prophecies can be prophesied.
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  Teachers can teach, evangelist can evangelize, right?
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  We we need to have this completed mindset where this
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  stuff fits together. And that's why I believe the
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  content God has allowed me to create is actually helpful for
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  the body. It's not to discredit or
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  dismember the body. I don't want to hurt the body.
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  I want to build the body. So I had to.
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  Get that off my chest. Just because a lot of ground has
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  been covered, a lot of breakthroughs, and I just want
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  to make sure that we have this common bond of humility and
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  understanding that not one man or one organization is going to
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  have the answers to all of your questions.
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  We need to take people off of a pedestal and actually start to
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  just honor and in humility understand the gift that's being
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  presented. If you have the spirit like
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  that. So when I had this conversation
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  with Ali, I understood what was happening and it's an honor to
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  be able to capture this kind of conversation for the edification
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  Hello everyone. This is Ali.
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  Sietatan from Think Again productions.com and welcome to
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  the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast with Rodsmith.
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  Ali, it is an honor to be here with you, man.
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  Thank you for being here. You're welcome.
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  Glad to be here and I look forward to our conversation.
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  I've been waiting for a couple years to find the right person
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  to ask about the millennial reign of Christ.
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  I mean, we know it's right there in the word, but I've heard you
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  speak about it before, and let's just say I I'm ready to fall out
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  of my chair with you tonight. Man, this is gonna be good.
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  Praise the Lord. Well, for those of my listeners
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  who may not know who you are, just give us a background story.
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  How did you become the alley that you are today?
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  What exactly is it that you do? And you produced a documentary
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  quite a few years back. Fill us in on that too.
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  Yeah, so I have. Essentially a a teaching
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  ministry that's focusing on revealing mysteries from
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  scripture that are being revealed to this generation.
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  We are living in a unique time. You know the the cycles of
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  biblical history. There's a lot of patterns, but
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  there is a climax that leads to the the the Kingdom of Christ,
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  the millennial reign like you're saying and I believe that we are
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  living in in, you know in in the years leading to that.
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  How long We'll have to find out together.
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  And there's a lot of mysteries that were hidden in plain sight
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  in scripture that have been revealed by the Holy Spirit that
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  I think this generation needs to understand, to live through
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  what's ahead of it and to and to, to make sense of the world
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  that that's emerging around us. And my ministry is here to, you
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  know, pray, fully receive word and unveil these mysteries for
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  this generation. So it happens through
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  audiovisual. There's the documentary that was
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  released in 2006, which really launched the ministry.
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  And the purpose of that is to was to unlock the UFO
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  phenomenon. What is this thing?
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  Is it real? How does it relate to the Bible?
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  And that really, you know, was a very vast research that opened
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  up. I I had no expectation that it
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  would go in that direction. But one mystery after another
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  popped open and finally a cohesive picture emerged that
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  really brought the cosmic tale of the Bible to life.
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  And I would have never thought in a million years that that's
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  where I was going. And so many of these
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  foundational concepts they're revolutionary.
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  We we tend to be set in our ways and our understanding.
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  So it's taken years and many other researchers that have come
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  up and explained the same things.
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  It's the word that's coming from God.
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  And so it's it's it, it's finally taking root in the
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  hearts and minds of of people who follow the Bible and follow
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  Jesus. Now we are continuing to build
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  the audio visual ministry, adding animation as well as
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  adding writing. So I'm working on a novel right
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  I I hope that it's going to hit a nerve and and be used as an
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  instrument by God to the masses and masses of people that are
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  curious about these things and really bring the biblical
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  when we when we're going to Israel.
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  Amazing. So OK, let let me just start
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  with with a couple questions like this.
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  All of this UFO disclosure, there's a lot of information
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  floating around out there. You're kind of like an OG in
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  this area. Back in 2006, you created the
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  the documentary UFOs Angels and Gods, right?
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  And did you work directly with Chuck Missler on that?
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  Like, did you get to meet? Him in person.
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  I, I, I met him. Yes.
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  I met him in person to interview.
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  Yeah, actually it was, it was interesting when it was a series
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  of incredible events that came together, even the making of the
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  documentary. I mean, there was only two of
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  us, me and my editor. But suddenly, you know, and
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  music came and voice over came, A lot of things came together,
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  but it all started, you know, once it was on my heart to do
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  it. It started with a prayer.
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  And I said, Lord, if you give me Chuck Missler as a guest, I will
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  take that as a sign that you want.
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  Me to do this? I I don't know if it's a good
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  prayer or bad prayer, but that's that's that's where my mind went
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  and it was a. Great prayer, it.
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  Worked, It worked and and so, you know, he had a
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  representative in Canada where I live.
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  I called him and he said, OK, let me talk to Chuck and I'll
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  get back to you. And then he called me back a few
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  days later and he said he'll do it.
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  And so yeah, see, at that time he had written a book called
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  Alien Encounters, which I have right here.
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  And you know he. Tells the story that he went to
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  Harvest House Publishing, the president of Harvest House
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  Publishing, which was the largest Christian publishing
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  house in the world. And he knew him.
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  He invited him to his house and he said, look, I've written a
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  new book and I want you to publish it.
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  And so he told him the story and the story was that these fallen
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  angels, the sons of God were having relations with human
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  females and creating offspring and and and he said the harvest
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  house publisher said no, we can't publish that because it
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  says the Lord said that angels don't marry or give into
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  marriage. So this is not this is not
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  biblical. And so Chuck had to publish it
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  himself and and became a great selling book on you know the
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  newly emerging Amazon website. But it but at the end of the day
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  it was something that a lot of people didn't want to talk about
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  and it was difficult to to get this information out.
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  So I think Chuck was also happy to hear that someone else out
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  there was also now taking steps to help people understand a
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  biblical perspective into all this stuff.
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  That's amazing. Yeah.
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  Chuck Missler was the first guy I ever heard that really tackled
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  questions that were burning deep down inside of me and kind of
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  felt like he, you know, through just listening to his, you know,
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  Bible in 24 hours and he had, you know, all kinds of
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  different, believe it or not, CD sets back then for the younger
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  listeners. Yeah, you go back 6-7 years ago,
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  CDs were still a a big thing and.
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  Well, I have. I have a whole box of cassette
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  tapes from him. Yeah, there we go.
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  Now we're talking. Oh, I love it.
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  I love it. My wife, every once in a while
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  wants to throw away and I'm like no, no, no, do not throw away.
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  They're going to be worth a lot of money someday.
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  This is history. This is a piece of history.
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  Oh jeez, It's so crazy how times change.
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  Yeah, yeah. Keep up with technology now,
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  man. My The digital age is here now.
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  Yes, it is. I mean you had mentioned you
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  know you're bringing in animation into, you know, your
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  set of of skills and things for the production network that that
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  you started, which is a very good thing.
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  We look at what's going on today and I get I I've been a magnet,
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  right. So I've gotten people that have
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  come to me for for quite, quite a number of years to tell me
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  that they've experienced something weird, right.
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  I didn't start this podcast thinking that that's exactly
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  what I would do and I don't really do that.
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  It's it's we get testimonials, right.
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  But the premises of what I do here is I'm capturing my own
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  growth journey that is many people's growth journey of faith
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  and understanding these things. So it's kind of like we're all
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  moving together by going down all these different rabbit
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  trails, if I can say it that way, and just covering the
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  diversity to different topics. I think we're living in a day
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  and age where there's a million messages and signals that caused
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  a lot of confusion and chaos. You're the perfect person for
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  some of the bigger questions I have regarding the millennial
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  reign. But before we kind of move
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  there, I do want to ask, like just at a surfing's glance,
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  right? What is the connection in from
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  your research and from what you see between, you know, the
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  accounts of modern day UFO abductions and antidotical
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  evidence to what the Bible has to say?
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  Can you just give us like a little bit of understanding
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  there? Yeah, the heart of the UFO
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  phenomenon so far is the creation of hybrids.
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  I mean it's even moved beyond that now it's about the hybrids
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  live among us, believe it or not.
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  And and and it is anecdotal, but it's not like you're you're just
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  like you know going around talking to to to just somebody
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  here and there and coming up with a great conclusion.
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  This is thousands of people who've come forward who had
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  nothing to gain. I mean the first book really of
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  there was one book published in 1982 that coined the word hybrid
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  actually by Budd Hopkins. But it was.
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  Really the the next book that was, you know, of great
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  importance was written by the head of psychiatry at Harvard
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  Medical School called abductions.
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  And he says, look, I'm a specialist of really analyzing
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  and knowing when people tell the truth or just are lying.
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  And the people are telling these stories, they have no reason to
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  lie and they're using the kind of speech that a person uses
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  when they speak the truth. And of course, David Jacobs,
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  last time I met with him, he had 1200 accounts.
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  And these are people that don't know each other at a time where
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  there was no books or documentaries about these things
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  all. Telling the same stories and and
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  if you meet someone you know, you realize they're just your
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  neighbour. They're professors, police
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  officers, judges, people that we trust with important
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  responsibility and they're telling something that would
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  discredit them. So they're anecdotal, but yet
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  there is a weight of of the character of the person who's
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  speaking. There is a pattern and it's a
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  consistency. The information is very
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  consistent. So when you follow the trail, it
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  takes you to the creation of hybrids as being really the
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  heart of it. There's more to that.
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  It seems to be deceptive because it's hidden, it's clandestine.
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  They're not landing on the lawn of the White House and saying,
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  we're we've arrived, let's become friends, let's make
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  contact. So there's something, there's
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  more to the story than the creation of hybrids.
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  But that is a huge landmark of the research.
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  And that, of course, brings to life all the ancient accounts of
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  hybrids or demigods from the entire world.
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  And in the Bible, in the page of the Bible, if you see the Bible
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  as a lens that you put in front of your eyes and through it you
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  see reality. But now you're seeing reality
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  through the revealed word of God.
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  They were called the Nephilim. And like you have to understand
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  that when I first discovered this, Google didn't exist as a
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  search engine. Yahoo existed And so I I went
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  into Yahoo and that's because I had access to to the Internet.
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  It wasn't like you had Internet at home.
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  I went to not everybody did and if you had it, it was dial up.
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  But I went to, I had, I had access to the Internet through
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  the university system and when I put in nephalem it said zero
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  search results found and that was it.
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  Now I had to go into books and then I found I couldn't find a
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  lot of books about it, you know. Yes.
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  I found the Hebrew word. What it meant.
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  I realized that hey, this is the wasn't just in the book of
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  Genesis. It was throughout the Bible.
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  I could now I found out all the biblical passages where these
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  things you know existed Goliath. There was Nephilim in the land.
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  But you know what? What is all this?
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  And. And and then it was really when
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  I came across Chuck's book that he suggested there could be a
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  connection between the modern day abduction film on these
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  ancient accounts. And that really is the
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  connection is that hybrids are not new.
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  They have existed throughout the ages, they have been recorded by
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  all civilizations, they have been worshipped and they are
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  also recorded in the in the Bible as the Nephilim.
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  And they have a lot of different roles.
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  That they play in the different ages of biblical history, But
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  it's always against God, against God's people, against God's
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  will, and often is contentious and warlike their ways.
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  You know the the the first person that interviewed me after
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  I made a documentary was Richard Syrett.
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  This was in 2006. And at the end he kind of
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  surprised me with the question I hadn't thought about it was
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  like, well, where's all this going?
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  You know, what's the purpose of these hybrids?
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  And then he thought for a second, he said, could this be
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  the army of Armageddon? And I thought, oh, that's an
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  interesting idea, 'cause often they are warriors in the Bible,
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  you know, they the these, these ancient Nephilim.
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  So who knows where where this is going?
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  But it's a it's it's a common thing throughout biblical
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  history, the history of the nations, and it's not a new
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  thing. It's actually makes sense that
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  these things exist because it seems that all of our ancestors
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  collectively have recorded these stories, including the word of
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  God. Yeah, I think I I couldn't agree
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  more. And you said something so key in
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  the beginning, just at the way that you said it, to help the
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  audience, somebody out there really just to hone in on the
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  fact that, you know, looking through this through the Bible
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  as like this lens, it's the the unrevealing.
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  You know it, it's actually helping to make sense of these
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  things because all of it fits together.
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  I mean, I couldn't just agree more with what you just said
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  about, you know, the enemy has a math problem on his hands.
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  Warriors are noted all throughout the word of God being
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  cannibalistic, being chimeric, being.
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  You know, there's there's the proof is there's ancient
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  documents and now we have modern day accounts and the credibility
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  of people that really it's anecdotical.
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  But when you actually look through the lens of the Bible
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  and like I think Chuck would say, you pull on these threads
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  and you see, hey this is interconnected.
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  How could we come to another conclusion?
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  And so to see how God has used you to really bring this to, I
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  mean, I would imagine millions and millions of people at this
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  point in time, Ali, but it's it's just fascinating to see how
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  God is bringing it all together, you know and for such a time as
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  this. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  No, exactly, exactly. the IT it's it's interesting that all
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  the earlier researchers, it all started with actually trying to
• 23:04
  figure out things we were seeing in the world around us.
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  Yeah, you know, it didn't start with some ancient, the study of
• 23:12
  ancient things, sorry, that was very modern things.
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  So I think, to your point, God is really bringing his light to
• 23:17
  bear on the realities that concern our generation.
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  So, well said, if you're OK with it, let's move into this big
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  question I've had, I've, I, I didn't name the show for the
• 23:30
  reason of the millennial reign of Christ.
• 23:32
  People ask me, they're like, oh, the millennium's probably coming
• 23:37
  soon, right? The signs are there just that
• 23:39
  way. You never sure that.
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  And I'm like, no, unfortunately it seems to be that it's working
• 23:43
  out that way because I have a really amazing testimony on how
• 23:47
  I got the name because I I was arguing with God, saying no, I
• 23:50
  don't want to name the podcast that it's a mouthful.
• 23:53
  Nobody likes it. I was being laughed at.
• 23:54
  I'm like, this is like, this is not working.
• 23:57
  I can't possibly talk about Dog Man and Sino Safali with Gary
• 24:01
  Wayne and have a podcast called The Millennial Mustard Seed.
• 24:03
  They're not going to get it, you know?
• 24:04
  So I like anyway, there's this huge wrestling match.
• 24:06
  But I was obedient. I listened.
• 24:08
  I I felt it and pressed heavily upon me that that was the name
• 24:12
  for this podcast. I had the intentions and I I had
• 24:16
  the head nod the agreement. Ali, because I'm like, I'm a
• 24:19
  millennial. Honestly I feel like a small
• 24:22
  little tiny seed forgotten, rejected and disregarded by my
• 24:26
  family, by my generation, you name it.
• 24:29
  And then I started to realize when I came to the Lord a little
• 24:32
  10 years ago, roughly a little more.
• 24:34
  I'm really bad with precise timelines but I fell in good
• 24:38
  dirt and I believed in the Lord Yeshua.
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  And I knew that there's a purpose and a calling on my
• 24:44
  life. And anyway the story goes on
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  right? But so I call it the millennial
• 24:49
  mustard see. But it seems to now becoming
• 24:51
  multi layered, which the more I understand about God and I walk
• 24:55
  in a relationship with Jesus, everything's multi layered.
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  Yeah, it's not so simple. Yeah.
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  Absolutely. So do you want to comment on
• 25:04
  anything I said and then I'll drop the big question on you
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  that I really have. No, I mean it's it's key to
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  answer the calling of God over one's life and the word in
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  Hebrew to hear and to obeys the same word.
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  We have two English words, but in Hebrew there's only one.
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  So when it says hear O Israel, it actually means obey O Israel.
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  So it's it's to hear the word of God and to hear the calling of
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  God of your life and obey it leads to much blessing.
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  So it's a wonderful thing. Wow.
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  Ali the big. Question that I have for you,
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  that I've been waiting years to literally get a hold of you and
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  and and figure this out is the millennial reign of Christ.
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  I mean, it's right there in the word of God.
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  We can read about it. There's a lot of people out
• 25:52
  there that do teachings on it. But when you had spoken briefly
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  about it, I think it was with chalk over a fire theft radio.
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  I just kind of was listening to the episode.
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  It hit me like a ton of bricks. I felt the weight of it in the
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  spirit. Well, I I finally developed
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  enough courage to reach out. Well, I'm glad you did.
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  The disciples of Jesus When the Lord is ascending, this is the
• 26:17
  last time we see the Lord and Acts, chapter one.
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  They come to him and even though he's now come back from dead,
• 26:24
  you think they have and they thought he was dead.
• 26:28
  You think that they have some other questions for him, but it
• 26:33
  seems that no, for them He's the Messiah and they and they see
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  him ascending and and they say to him so when they had come.
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  Together. They asked him.
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  Lord, will you at this time restore the Kingdom to Israel,
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  so. That's what they ask him about
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  what you and I, in Christian language call the millennial
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  reign. Because in the Book of
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  Revelation, we're told it's 1000 years, but it.
• 27:04
  But you know, this was simply the way it was this there's
• 27:08
  going to be this Kingdom. When Gabriel comes to reveal to
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  Mary Miriam the birth of Jesus, he says to her that he will
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  inherit the throne of his father David and rule over Jacob, which
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  was again, what the understanding of this Messiah
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  was. When Nicodemus is talking to him
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  about about this, he says to him.
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  Look, Rabbi, we've. Seen the signs?
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  You know you've performed all these miracles and.
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  Are you good? Essentially going to bring the
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  Kingdom. That's what he's asking him.
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  That's the conversation that Nicodemus and Jesus are having
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  there. It's about the Kingdom of the
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  Messiah. And then the Lord says, well,
• 27:54
  you have to be born of the Spirit 1st, and he uses the
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  plural. You guys have to be born in the
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  Greek. It's clear that it's using that.
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  He's using the plural. He's talking to a teacher of
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  Israel about Israel and that kind of.
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  Throws a wrench in some people's minds.
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  Perhaps it's one of the passages.
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  Wait a second, be born the spirit, and then, you know, he
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  says to the woman by the Well, you know soon you're going to be
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  worshipping me in spirit and truth, not in Jerusalem,
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  etcetera. And so it kind of creates it
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  maybe confusions, the beginnings of confusion.
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  That is he suggesting something else than what the Scriptures
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  had proclaimed until now. Is he changing the nature of
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  this Kingdom? He's simply saying that it's an
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  eternal Kingdom, and if and to enter it, you have to be made
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  eternal and to become eternally. If they have your sins forgiven,
• 28:50
  that's what's really holding you back from full communion with
• 28:53
  God. It's it's the forgiveness and
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  atonement. He's not.
• 28:57
  Changing the nature of reality. So when His disciples say to
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  him, will you at this time restore the Kingdom to Israel?
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  He said, He said to them, it is not for you to know times or
• 29:09
  seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.
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  So he's not telling them. No, He's not saying I'm not
• 29:18
  going to restore the Kingdom to Israel.
• 29:20
  The the plan has changed. Now it's a celestial Kingdom.
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  I go to the Father, I will receive the crown from him and
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  I'll rule from heaven. He's not saying any of that.
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  He's He's, He's agreeing with them.
• 29:30
  He's simply saying the timing and season will be determined by
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  God. He said to them, it is not for
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  you to know times or seasons of the Father has fixed by his own
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  authority, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has
• 29:47
  come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and
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  all Judea and Samaria into the ends of the earth.
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  So he's first of all, he's quoting the Book of Daniel.
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  It is not for you to know the times or seasons.
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  The Father is fixed by his own authority.
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  He's quoting literally the Book of Daniel.
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  And he's quoting Daniel chapter 2, where there's the famous
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  dream of King Nebuchadnezzar. And Daniel prays at night to
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  receive the revelation as to what this dream meant because
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  his head is on the chopping block.
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  He's got one night to figure it out, and finally God reveals it
• 30:25
  to him. And the moment God reveals this,
• 30:28
  what the dream is about, which is about the sequence of gentile
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  empires until the coming of the Messiah and the establishing of
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  his Kingdom, that's what the dream is about.
• 30:39
  There's even the Pebble that destroys the empires and fills
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  the whole earth, the messianic Kingdom.
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  And so when God reveals the meaning of the dream to him
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  spontaneously, it seems under the influence of the Spirit of
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  God, Daniel blurts out, Blessed be the name of God, forever and
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  ever, to whom belong wisdom and might.
• 31:04
  He changes times and seasons, He removes kings and sets up kings.
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  He changes times and seasons, He removes kings and sets up kings.
• 31:16
  So the all the authorities, angelic and human, are under the
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  authority of God, and it is God that decides the rise and fall
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  of kings. That's what Daniel realizes.
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  And that God is about to now reveal this very structure
• 31:36
  prophetically to the King of Babylon, but also to Daniel and
• 31:40
  to us through scripture. So Jesus is literally quoting
• 31:45
  Daniel chapter 2 when he says to them it is not for you to know
• 31:50
  the times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own
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  authority. You know for.
• 31:55
  The changing of the Kingdom from Rome to Israel, because Israel
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  was under the jurisdiction of the Roman Empire.
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  So if you're going to reestablish the Kingdom to
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  Israel and be the son of David and be the Messiah and be the
• 32:08
  king, and now bring the instructions of God to the
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  nations, that was part of it. The Temple would be where the
• 32:15
  Messiah would rule from and he, you know the presence of God
• 32:18
  would be over him. And then he would then.
• 32:21
  Bring the Torah, which means the instructions, the written
• 32:26
  instructions of God, that the to the to to the nations and and
• 32:32
  Rome would submit to this divinely appointed king.
• 32:35
  This. So there would be a change of
• 32:36
  authority. Essentially the statue would
• 32:39
  fall and the and the Pebble would destroy it.
• 32:41
  This would be the implication of the question that the disciples
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  ask. And so the Lord doesn't deny any
• 32:48
  of it. He simply says the timing is not
• 32:50
  for you to know the timing. This is God's timing.
• 32:53
  This is the next thing on the on on the planet.
• 32:56
  You're going to go and receive the Holy Spirit in Jerusalem.
• 32:59
  And when they do receive the Holy Spirit in Jerusalem, and
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  they are fully now enlightened and awakened, because they have
• 33:08
  now discernment into the. Scriptures.
• 33:10
  Through the light of the Holy Spirit.
• 33:12
  Now they understand the fullness of what the Messiah was all
• 33:16
  about. He was also the Suffering
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  Servant, the atonement. He was also a prophet.
• 33:21
  He was also a priest. And he's also a king.
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  He's got, you know, he's also a man and he's also God Incarnate.
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  So he's got all these dimensions that were in the Bible encoded,
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  but perhaps hidden not only from men but from fallen angels
• 33:36
  because we see Satan quoting the Bible to the Lord.
• 33:39
  So he's he's. Writing it in plain sight and
• 33:44
  hiding it so that the enemy will be tempted to kill the Lord,
• 33:48
  thinking they're taking out their competition rather than in
• 33:54
  igniting the atonement clauses of the Levitical law of the
• 34:00
  Bible's you know, system. Because the story on Earth is a
• 34:04
  cosmic tale. The Earth is the birth place of
• 34:08
  the immortal children of God. And so these laws are, are
• 34:13
  cosmic laws that affect the destiny of the human race and
• 34:17
  the destiny of the universe. And so the enemy is actually
• 34:21
  suddenly, you know, turning on the mystery that is their own
• 34:26
  undoing. But since God had written it in
• 34:29
  in plain sight, but hidden it from the mind of men and angels,
• 34:32
  that's how powerful, you know, in His might, they couldn't see
• 34:36
  it. And the Spirit comes and opens
• 34:38
  it up. And now they know.
• 34:40
  And then the Lord says, go and make disciples of all nations.
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  And you know, it doesn't come through, I think, to us, because
• 34:49
  we are seeing it as more as a call to global evangelism.
• 34:54
  But you have to put yourself. In the shoes of the Jewish
• 34:57
  disciples of Yeshua, when Peter goes to Cornelius, they chastise
• 35:03
  him for having walked into the House of a Gentile, and he's got
• 35:06
  to give a whole explanation. Know that it was preceded by a
• 35:09
  vision where God presented the kosher foods and said no they're
• 35:12
  not and their don't call unclean what I've made clean and and got
• 35:16
  nothing to do with food that vision nothing to do with food.
• 35:18
  It had to do with the Gentiles. And so Cornelius, why is it
• 35:24
  because the Orthodox devout Jews like Peter, they didn't go into
• 35:28
  gentiles homes because they would offer you maybe something
• 35:32
  to drink or eat and they tended to sacrifice their foods to the
• 35:36
  gods. They would maybe sacrifice some
• 35:39
  of the food to an idol, then mix that with the rest of the food
• 35:42
  for blessing. Or they would, you know, do a
• 35:45
  wine offering in their backyard or in front of their house.
• 35:48
  They'd pour out some wine as an offering and then they would eat
• 35:52
  the drink the rest of the wine. So the gentile, the Jews just
• 35:58
  that were devout. How to rule, don't go in a
• 36:00
  gentile home. You don't want to find yourself
• 36:03
  sinning against God by eating food sacrificed to idols.
• 36:07
  And so they really are you know very hard on Peter.
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  And this is some people say anywhere between 5 to 8 years,
• 36:20
  maybe nine years after Pentecost.
• 36:25
  Everyone is a Jew at Pentecost and and so the this idea of go
• 36:32
  and make disciples of of all nations meant the non Jewish
• 36:37
  nations. The end.
• 36:40
  The implication was go and announce that the king has
• 36:44
  arrived and that there is a chance that other people can be
• 36:49
  invited to the wedding feast of the king and so he will.
• 36:53
  He blinds a portion of the Jewish people so that the
• 36:57
  fullness of the Kingdom doesn't come in and he creates an
• 37:01
  opening. And again, the nature of the
• 37:05
  Kingdom is not at all the question and at any point any of
• 37:10
  all of these things, because all the prophecies of the Bible are
• 37:15
  literally fulfilled from the book of Genesis forward.
• 37:20
  The entire structure of the Bible which makes it unique
• 37:23
  among the religious texts of the world is that it's in
• 37:26
  intertwined between history and prophecy.
• 37:29
  God speaks the future and his will over his creation,
• 37:34
  including man and angels and the gods of the nations.
• 37:38
  And it then it occurs on the stage of history, unbeknownst to
• 37:42
  the characters that are involved in it.
• 37:45
  And then God records it. You know, the scribes then
• 37:48
  record that wow, what God said actually occurred.
• 37:51
  And and so this interplay between prophecy and history is
• 37:55
  the foundational narrative structure of the Bible.
• 37:59
  God says to Abraham your children are going to inherit
• 38:01
  this land after a period of slavery and then the Exodus is
• 38:05
  is the story of the fulfillment of that promise.
• 38:07
  And then it just continues from there.
• 38:09
  Whether it's the history of Israel that's toward told
• 38:11
  beforehand and the rise and fall of empire or the messianic
• 38:15
  prophecies, the prophecies about fallen angels, about the nations
• 38:20
  of the earth who will receive the light about the spirit.
• 38:23
  So when you look at prophecies like the virgin birth.
• 38:28
  Well, it was literal. With hindsight, you know, if you
• 38:31
  imagine if you were kind of a rabbi looking at that prophecy
• 38:34
  centuries before the birth of the Lord of Christ of the
• 38:39
  Messiah, you might think to yourself, I wonder what this
• 38:42
  means. I mean, if even if you clued in
• 38:45
  that this was about the Messiah, you might think maybe it means
• 38:48
  he's very clean or it means, you know, it means that he's very
• 38:54
  supernatural. But surely it doesn't actually
• 38:57
  mean that he's actually born of an actual virgin, because births
• 39:01
  don't happen that way. Or even Psalm 22, that clearly
• 39:06
  describes a man, you know, on being crucified, looking down at
• 39:11
  a time where the crucifix wasn't yet invented as a method of
• 39:14
  execution, and all of these things really were literally
• 39:17
  fulfilled. There is no prophecy anywhere in
• 39:20
  the entire Bible that is not the literal fulfilled on the stage
• 39:26
  of history. Literally.
• 39:28
  Because the idea of prophecies that the future of the past or
• 39:36
  of the present of the prophet's life world is given.
• 39:40
  It's it's about the world in which the prophet lives.
• 39:44
  And it is the future of that history, of real history of real
• 39:48
  people, real cities, real empires, real problems like what
• 39:56
  happened in the Garden of Eden, like what happened at the Tower
• 39:59
  of Babel, like what happened in Genesis 6.
• 40:03
  It's the real problems in real history.
• 40:05
  And now God is going to talk about things that happen in the
• 40:08
  future that are going to be the answer to that.
• 40:10
  So you look at the story of the New Testament and you think, why
• 40:14
  is it that only the birth of the Lord, and even in his childhood,
• 40:17
  in three years of his life are recorded?
• 40:19
  Why not more or why not less? Because the Jewish believers,
• 40:28
  who were the first people to receive the Gospel, first the
• 40:30
  Jew and then to the Gentile, the Jewish believers, they had a way
• 40:35
  of already of understanding things which was, if it's not an
• 40:38
  agreement with the Torah, with the book, with the word of God,
• 40:42
  they will reject it. They already had this
• 40:46
  understanding that the Bible is the measure, the Canon through
• 40:49
  which you know you understand things.
• 40:52
  And so the idea with the New Testament gospels is to say the
• 41:01
  things that the prophets had said about the Messiah were
• 41:05
  naturally fulfilled in the life of this one man.
• 41:09
  And here is the recorded proof of that.
• 41:13
  Therefore, this is the Messiah and so the things that are
• 41:17
  recorded about the. Lord and the New Testament.
• 41:19
  Are essentially the things that fall within the scope of
• 41:22
  biblical prophecy fulfillment. And so once again, the Gospels
• 41:27
  are historical books that record that God's prophetic word
• 41:31
  occurred on the stage of world history.
• 41:34
  The book of Acts tells the story of the coming of the Holy
• 41:37
  Spirit. Why?
• 41:39
  Well, because there are many prophecies in the Old Testament
• 41:42
  about the coming of the Holy Spirit, about it being given.
• 41:46
  And so again, the book of Acts is there as a historical book to
• 41:50
  record the the fulfillment of an Old Testament prophecy and the
• 41:56
  birth of the regenerated man and the idea that the light of God
• 42:03
  the the Messiah would be offered to the nations.
• 42:04
  And we see that starting with Cornelius in the book of Acts.
• 42:07
  So you really, you see that this is the foundational structure of
• 42:15
  the Bible. There is the use of figures, of
• 42:22
  speech in the Bible, metaphors, similes, allegories, all of the
• 42:30
  the literary things, structures, using rhetoric to speak, to
• 42:36
  convey stories. You know, you know, he, he was,
• 42:42
  he was as thirsty as a parched a land.
• 42:46
  Well, yes, you know, he was in the parched land.
• 42:48
  He was as thirsty as a parched land.
• 42:50
  So, so this idea that these things are used in the Bible to
• 42:56
  speak of actual reality is a consistent structure of the
• 43:01
  Bible. So when the Lord ascends and
• 43:04
  receives the throne of God, because there are many Thrones,
• 43:09
  there is plural. In the in the prophecy of Daniel
• 43:11
  Chapter 7 where we see the Son of man ascending, it says they
• 43:16
  were Thrones in plural and so he goes and he's sitting in the
• 43:22
  right hand of God. But the throne of King David is
• 43:24
  still his and the Messianic Kingdom is still there.
• 43:31
  One of my favorite prophecies is Zechariah chapter 14 and I.
• 43:39
  So just that anyone who is wondering about the nature of
• 43:42
  the millennial Kingdom read this.
• 43:46
  It talks about how a day the behold the day is coming for the
• 43:49
  Lord which is the Old Testament. Where Hebrew Bible Tanakh way of
• 43:55
  talking about what we call the second coming, the great and
• 43:57
  terrible day of the Lord. Behold, the day is coming for
• 44:00
  the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your
• 44:02
  midst. I will gather all nations
• 44:04
  against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the
• 44:07
  house is plundered and the woman raped.
• 44:10
  Half of the city shall go out into exile, and it's entering
• 44:14
  that E Jerusalem is a land of contention.
• 44:17
  A lot of Arab Palestinians live in in East Jerusalem, but the
• 44:24
  rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
• 44:27
  Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as
• 44:31
  when he fights on a day of battle.
• 44:35
  On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies
• 44:39
  before Jerusalem. So the Lord then descends on the
• 44:43
  Mount of Olives, which ironically is where he ascended
• 44:46
  from. And if you come with us to
• 44:47
  Jerusalem, we will go to the Mount of Olives.
• 44:50
  It's fairly small. You can see all of it and walk
• 44:53
  through it and know that you're pretty much there.
• 44:58
  Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations as
• 45:00
  when he fought fights on a day of battle.
• 45:03
  On that day, his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives that lie
• 45:06
  before Jerusalem. And it talks about how that it
• 45:08
  splits in two. There is an earthquake and by
• 45:12
  the way, there is a fault line there that goes all the way into
• 45:15
  Kenya, into Africa. It's a very important fault line
• 45:18
  and there's one that goes into Syria, into Damascus.
• 45:21
  And this prophecies about the destruction of Damascus has
• 45:24
  never been fulfilled. And and it continues to describe
• 45:29
  things in great, great detail. And then it says that this will
• 45:35
  be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people
• 45:38
  that wage war against Jerusalem. Their flesh will rot while
• 45:41
  they're still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in
• 45:43
  their sockets, their tongues will rot in their mouths.
• 45:47
  And it goes on, which, which is very interesting by the way, is
• 45:50
  it looks like, is it radiation? Is it nuclear?
• 45:53
  I don't know. But there is some sort of a
• 45:55
  death. And then it says then everyone
• 45:58
  who survives of all the nations that has come against Jerusalem.
• 46:02
  So the survivals of this great battle, they're going to go year
• 46:06
  after year to worship the king, the Lord of hosts, and to keep
• 46:09
  the feast of booths, Tabernacles Sukkot, which is the final feast
• 46:14
  in the cycle of feasts that God ordains through Moses.
• 46:19
  And it's interesting. It begins with Passover.
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  Which is coming up in in the month of April.
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  This year in 2024 and it's the story of the beginning.
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  The story of Israel begins at Passover in Egypt, which is
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  again real place even though all the Passovers, including the one
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  the Lord attended which we call the Last Supper, where he lifted
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  1/3 cup of wine which talks about the the blood of the lamb
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  in the ritual of the Passover that remembers the events of
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  Exodus. And he said this is my blood.
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  So he inserted himself into the Passover.
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  He became the lamb. All of those are essentially
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  ritual meals that are ordained. Every year there's a sacrifice
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  of the temple, a lamb is sacrificed.
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  There are a lot of overlaps between the Passover ritual and
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  and the story of the cross. And the timing of it?
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  But the first Passover was actually a historical event.
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  It wasn't a ritual out of Egypt. And the you had the doorpost,
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  the blood on your doorpost. So it's like, you know, you walk
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  through the blood of the lamb into the resurrected life and
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  into fellowship with the living God and the defeat of the gods
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  of Egypt and the king of the pharaoh of Egypt.
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  And the salvation, redemption and resurrection from the dead
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  of of of a nation that was, you know, left in slavery and
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  bondage. This was a real event.
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  And the final feast, these are all rituals that they were doing
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  year to year. But the last one, the feast of
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  Tabernacle, the last of the in the cycle of feasts happens to
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  also prophetically correspond to the beginning of the millennial
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  Kingdom. And if any of the families says
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  that everyone has survived this battle comes to Jerusalem to
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  worship the king of the feast of Booth.
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  And if any of the families of the earth do not go up to
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  Jerusalem to worship the king, the Lord of hosts, there shall
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  be no rain on them, which I think it's it's it's a metaphor
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  for blessing. I mean it could also be rain.
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  So it seems that people will read a passage like this and
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  they'll say, oh, this was fulfilled when the Romans
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  invaded Jerusalem and then God send the Holy Spirit and the
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  Gospel out. But really, virtually anyone who
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  reads Zachary chapter 14 will, will be suddenly convicted by
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  the reality that these events have never occurred.
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  There's all these nations have never come against Jerusalem.
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  And then the Lord descending on Mount of Olives because he just
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  ascended from the Mount of Olives.
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  Actually, in the book of Acts that I read originally at the
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  beginning of this conversation, now we see him descend in the
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  Mount of Olives and defeats these nations.
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  There's earthquakes. The defeat is very specific.
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  Then he established the Kingdom and the final biblical feast,
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  the one that's in the fall at the time of the ingathering of
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  the harvest. The, you know, is the one that
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  corresponds to the ingathering of the people inside of his
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  Kingdom. So it looks like the final feast
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  in the cycle of feasts is also something that will be a
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  historical event on the stage of history in Jerusalem, the same
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  way the first one was a historical event in Egypt.
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  Now the Book of Revelation comes along, and the Book of
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  Revelation has 400 verses but over 800 allusions to mainly the
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  Old Testament. Because the New Testament was
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  just taking form. Jesus understood this Kingdom to
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  be literal on the earth. So did his disciples.
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  We see that in the letters and then the Book of Revelation
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  comes and adds a precision. It gives us the time, the length
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  of it. So now we know it'll be 1000
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  years. And it's interesting because
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  1000 years is a is is 1 celestial year it seems or
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  something because it says that 1000 years is about a day to the
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  Lord. Both Moses and Peter say that
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  and I, and I assume Peter is quoting Moses.
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  And when you look into the story of of the days before the flood,
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  no one ever lives 1000 years. Even Methuselah dies in his nine
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  hundreds. So it looks like no one in the
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  fallen world in the Bible makes it to 1000.
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  But in this Kingdom we live 1000.
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  So something that was lost is restored.
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  It's as though 1 celestial 1 cosmic day you know happens in
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  this Kingdom. So it's a Sabbath history and
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  the Sabbath represents many things in the Bible and it is a
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  symbol of this millennial Kingdom.
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  It's the 7th day. Some people say history has been
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  6000 years from the flood or others say 6000 from Adam.
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  And now we are going to have the 7th, 1000 here, which is the
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  millennial reign. And this is the throne of King
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  David and he will rule over Jacob and over the nations from
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  Jerusalem. This idea is consistent with the
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  fact prophecies always fulfilled literally.
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  But as church history takes off and we kind of like a log that
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  wanders away in the sea. Both Jews and Gentiles distance
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  themselves from Jerusalem in this 2000 years of of of the
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  gospel going out and the Jews leaving the land.
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  They adopt ideas from the nations in their thinking like
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  secularism. And the Christians add their all
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  kinds of ideas, Greek ideas, spiritualization especially, or
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  Augustine, Saint Augustine, foundational character in the
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  thinking of the church, starts to see the millennial Kingdom as
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  being, hey, look all around me the Rome is converting to
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  Christianity. This is it, you know, because
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  his idea of the world is small. Rome is like a lot of it.
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  And so if Romans are converting to Christianity, then that means
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  the Kingdom of Christ is coming to earth, which is not, you
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  know, incorrect, but it's the beginning.
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  The Lord send out his emissaries to declare to the nations.
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  The King of Kings has arrived, and he asked people everywhere
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  to pledge allegiance to him in expectation of the full
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  redemption of the earth, which is a healing of the world, a
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  physical world. An establishing of this Kingdom
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  prophesied over 1000 verses everywhere.
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  Nothing more is talked about. In fact, it's the chief gold
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  topic of the whole Bible. And so in the imagination of the
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  Church, the nature of this Kingdom begins to change and
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  becomes more spiritualized. It becomes more something that
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  never happens on the earth in the Catholic period in the
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  Imperial Church. When the Catholic Church was
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  ruling over the kings of Europe, the idea was, Oh well, the Pope
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  is the Vicar of Christ and therefore any Kingdom that's
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  under the papacy is inside of the Kingdom of Christ.
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  That was thou, the millennial reign.
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  Others saw the 1000 years allegorical, even though there
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  is no reason to see it that way, because even the 70 weeks of
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  Daniel's prophecy are literal. All the prophecies in the Bible
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  are are are literal. If it can be taken literally and
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  could the rule world, could the Lord rule 1000 years, especially
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  when we get a new body easily. And so in fact as I said it
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  seems to rectify something from the book of Genesis that that is
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  the origin of fallen world which is no one makes it to 1000 and
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  it's in alignment with not only the literal fulfillment of of of
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  prophecies in the Bible that are in a tradition of always being
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  fulfilled literally. In fact, this is the
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  foundational structure of the Bible, but also it's in harmony
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  with other teachings like the Sabbath of history.
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  And so there's a lot of weight to it.
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  I think that the church slowly wandered away.
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  And that's why when the disciples asked the Lord, are
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  you going to establish the Kingdom of Israel, he didn't
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  say, no, that's not the way it's going to be.
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  That plan that was planned, that was the old plan.
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  There's a new plan and the new plan is a spiritual Kingdom.
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  So people start to even question the the length, the allegorical
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  though they go 1000 years. Not really.
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  It just means, you know, a long time.
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  Some people saw it that to be the first 1000 years of the
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  church. It becomes fashionable to
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  relegate the story into a spiritual world where a war of
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  angels which are spiritual beings is happening.
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  And that's not a conversation. Are angels only spiritual or are
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  they also physical? Cause in the Bible they're
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  physical and and so the idea that that becomes very popular
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  is the preterite amillennial idea, which is that hey, you
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  know what, everyone in the world eventually over time just gets
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  converted to Christianity. This is the Kingdom of Christ.
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  There's a spiritual battle. It's in another realm, and in
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  the end of it, there is a confrontation with the devil
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  that is now bound. Even though, you know, as one
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  teacher told me, who the pastor who's was going through this
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  transformation of thinking, he said, you know, if the devil's
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  really bound, he's got a very long chain.
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  And so the idea is that, oh the the the devil's bound, the
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  battle's in a spiritual realm. The 1000 years is allegorical
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  and at the end of it suddenly the devil is released for a
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  brief time where there is a confrontation.
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  The Lord wins and comes and takes us into directly the
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  heavenly Jerusalem where he is a spirit and we're all spirits.
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  Even though the Lord already has a spirit version, it's the Holy
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  Spirit. He is the son of King David.
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  It says in the Bible he comes back with his wounds and and
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  they watch and they see him whom they've pierced and they mourn
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  for him. So So there's a lot of, you'd
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  really have to may change so many things from the simplicity
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  and power of what the Bible is clearly saying in order to go in
• 56:46
  all of these things. But after the printing press
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  comes and the Bible is read again by more people than just
• 56:53
  some Catholic teachers and and and and nothing, you know,
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  Catholics are many of them are great believers in the Lord.
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  I'm just we're talking about simply traditions.
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  Protestants also don't have a perfect understanding of the
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  Bible. But at least the Bible is now
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  printed in red. And as that occurs, teachers
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  start to say, wait a second, it looks like there's there's a
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  series of prophecies that are not fulfilled that lead to the
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  second coming and it involves the Jewish people being present
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  in the Holy Land and and in the city of Jerusalem.
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  So let's say for instance, Spurgeon, who's a Baptist
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  teacher in the 19th century in a very clear minded man concerning
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  Scripture, he starts to say, no, no, they're going to come back.
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  They are going to come back to to Israel.
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  And of course, as people start to speculate on this, like even
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  the Scofield Bible that I have and he's talking about saying,
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  you know, there's some early indication because he's writing
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  it at the very beginning of the 20th century, and he's saying
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  there's some indication that there's a movement.
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  The Jewish people seem to be coming back.
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  We'll see kind of where this goes.
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  But if this really happens, then all of these battles of the end
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  of days that lead to the Second Coming could be taken literally
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  on the stage of history because they would be again a a Jewish
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  presence in the holy and controlling the city of
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  Jerusalem. The nations would be contending
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  with with it. It wouldn't be any more
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  allegorical or spiritual. And it would also mean that God
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  has not done with the Jews that they still have a role in
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  prophecy like Paul says it. You know the promises made to
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  the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are irrevocable in
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  Jeremiah. Interestingly, in chapter 31
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  where the prophecy of the new covenant is given says God says
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  if the sun and moon and the stars were to disappear and then
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  Israel would cease to be a nation before me.
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  So it seems to to have God admit has put that verse in the same
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  place where he announces the new covenant because I think he's
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  he's going ahead of the fact that once a new covenant comes
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  the story of Israel becomes an issue to the church and people
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  try to dismiss the Jewish people and I think God put that there
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  right there to say wait. By the way, also this when you
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  every time you come to read about the prophecy of the New
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  Covenant, then you will also be reminded of of the Trinity of
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  the Jewish people throughout the ages of history.
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  And so they're blinded so the Gentiles can receive sight and
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  join them in the Kingdom, but there will be sight given to
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  them. And that's what we see with the
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  messianic movement that begins in 1967, the same year that
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  Jerusalem becomes part of the Commonwealth of Israel.
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  The mass awakening of the Jewish people to who the Messiah is
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  begins. And so it becomes more and more
• 59:45
  impossible really to the thinking mind, I think, to not
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  take these prophecies literally. Wow.
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  It's actually, it's no longer a theory from the 19th century.
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  Oh, some teachers are saying this could actually be
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  happening. It's actually happening.
• 1:00:01
  And not only that, but the UFOs show up in the same year in 1947
• 1:00:06
  and the hybrids show up as we were talking about it, and and
• 1:00:11
  more and more the world becomes clearly apocalyptic.
• 1:00:15
  And so, so suddenly it's clear that the the birth pangs have
• 1:00:20
  begun that are going to give. Birth to the next age of
• 1:00:24
  history. And we are going to transition
• 1:00:27
  from the age of empire to the Kingdom of of Christ.
• 1:00:30
  And so the Messianic age started at the cross, at the ascension
• 1:00:35
  or when he came to the Father and sent the Holy Spirit.
• 1:00:37
  He's sitting on the right hand of God until God makes his
• 1:00:40
  enemies a footstool for him like it says in Psalm 110.
• 1:00:44
  And the Messianic age began. He sent the Holy Spirit.
• 1:00:46
  We have become in a way, the new temple, but there will be,
• 1:00:50
  there's also a temple in heaven. There also used to be a temple
• 1:00:52
  in Jerusalem and there's going to be, you know, a temple out of
• 1:00:56
  which the Messiah is going to rule in returns and there's
• 1:00:58
  going to be a temple, It seems what the Antichrist goes into.
• 1:01:02
  So there's there's several temples in the story and so the
• 1:01:06
  one doesn't have to replace the other, and we can be in a period
• 1:01:08
  where we worship Him in the Spirit, but then we can also be
• 1:01:11
  in His presence. So it becomes impossible to not
• 1:01:14
  really see the events of today as being the continuation of the
• 1:01:19
  fact that the prophecy of the Bible come through literally.
• 1:01:23
  And now it's becomes very easy to remember like the early
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  church and like like the Old Testament prophets and like the
• 1:01:30
  disciples of Jesus clearly understood that the Messiah will
• 1:01:33
  rule on this earth from the city of Jerusalem.
• 1:01:38
  And the events of Zechariah 14 are ahead of us of Joel three,
• 1:01:43
  of Ezekiel 38 of, you know, Revelation 19.
• 1:01:46
  And then after the millennial reign is completed, there is one
• 1:01:51
  more brief confrontation where the enemies are released.
• 1:01:55
  And there we even hear about Gog and Magog one more time, that
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  which are clearly spiritual entities since they're here 1000
• 1:02:05
  years later. And the Father arrives and he
• 1:02:09
  purifies the earth, destroys these.
• 1:02:12
  And I imagine that in this period of 1000 years, we will
• 1:02:17
  have an eternal body, the glorified body.
• 1:02:20
  But the people that survived the apocalypse, that never came to
• 1:02:23
  faith in this age will live and die and bear children and will
• 1:02:28
  live under the law of the instructions of God.
• 1:02:32
  It's it's very possible that the Old Testament laws actually
• 1:02:36
  become the legal system of the Messiah's Kingdom, and so they
• 1:02:43
  will. They will now have to undergo
• 1:02:46
  the White Throne judgement. It says that those who have had,
• 1:02:49
  you know, who've already been saved were not experienced as
• 1:02:53
  the second death, which means that we don't have to be brought
• 1:02:56
  back to life. But the guys that have lived and
• 1:02:59
  died without the knowledge of the Lord, I think both in His
• 1:03:02
  Kingdom and outside, they are brought back to life.
• 1:03:06
  And if their name is written, the book of life, they join us.
• 1:03:08
  And if not, they're thrown in the lake of fire and destroyed.
• 1:03:10
  So that happens at the end of the millennial reign.
• 1:03:14
  And then we all enter the heavenly Jerusalem.
• 1:03:17
  If you see, the universe is God's creation.
• 1:03:21
  The earth is just a planet and the universe is vast beyond,
• 1:03:24
  beyond the vastness of the we see this heavenly Jerusalem.
• 1:03:30
  This cube, I hate to call it, but it looks like a cube to me.
• 1:03:34
  Big is the holy of Holies, you know.
• 1:03:37
  The same with the temple of Jerusalem was God showed
• 1:03:41
  heavenly things and there was a replica of heavenly things.
• 1:03:45
  The Holy of Holies is in the middle of it.
• 1:03:48
  And of the temple in Jerusalem, the architecture, it was
• 1:03:51
  symbolic of the architecture of, you know, God's creation and and
• 1:03:56
  many other things. There's a lot of symbolism in
• 1:03:58
  it. The the path of a believer from
• 1:04:00
  the outside world to the outer court to the inner court to the
• 1:04:03
  holy of holies. The the curtain is torn.
• 1:04:05
  You you know, you receive God. So it's like in your inner
• 1:04:08
  temple. Sin removes the separation.
• 1:04:11
  Your consciousness becomes aware of the presence of God and the
• 1:04:14
  spirit of God and your spirit melt together.
• 1:04:17
  So these were all like embedded in the architecture, but it's
• 1:04:20
  also, I think talking about the cosmic architecture where the
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  universe is the God's creation. It's like a giant temple.
• 1:04:29
  And the holy of holies is where the father dwells.
• 1:04:33
  And now the Son with him at the end of the millennial, he's
• 1:04:36
  there right now but he's going to ascend back and we are going
• 1:04:38
  to ascend with him in there. And we will now know God face to
• 1:04:42
  face, which is something that you can't until you're you're
• 1:04:45
  perfectly pure and right or he'd be obliterated.
• 1:04:48
  And he gives us a name that no man knows which is a function in
• 1:04:51
  Hebrew thought names or functions.
• 1:04:53
  And there we serve him as royal priests bringing his
• 1:04:56
  instructions as his image bearers to the creation.
• 1:04:59
  The earth is the birth place of the sons of God.
• 1:05:02
  Like it says in. I think it's in Romans that the
• 1:05:05
  entire creation moans and groans in expectation of the revelation
• 1:05:10
  of the sons of God, they're waiting for us.
• 1:05:12
  It's like the angels are like our nannies but we're in the
• 1:05:15
  royal family eventually we grow up and and we we govern them.
• 1:05:21
  And right now we're in the you know you were kind of in the
• 1:05:24
  womb and then when you receive the Holy Spirit you're born
• 1:05:27
  again. It's like you just it's the
• 1:05:29
  regenerated nature begins and now you study the word of God
• 1:05:33
  and you walk the path and you mature.
• 1:05:36
  And then when the Lord comes to get your new body and you kind
• 1:05:38
  of enter your teen years. So the millennial Kingdom is
• 1:05:41
  kind of like training, you know, for how to be a royal priest.
• 1:05:47
  You know, we are going to have instructions to carry out from
• 1:05:50
  the Lord. We are going to be governing
• 1:05:52
  different parts of the planet, even if everyone who's ever
• 1:05:56
  believed in the Lord is brought back to life.
• 1:05:58
  Remember the planet was empty for like you go back to Middle
• 1:06:01
  Ages, the planet is empty. So most of the peoples, most of
• 1:06:05
  the souls are born really since the 19th century when the
• 1:06:09
  planet's population start to explode.
• 1:06:12
  So when we come to life and we we serve him, the Lord will then
• 1:06:19
  have us doing things and governing in this over.
• 1:06:22
  You know we we represent the Kingdom of David one and and
• 1:06:27
  then of course when we enter the heaven in Jerusalem we're now
• 1:06:30
  trained and that that expands to to the angels.
• 1:06:34
  One last story. The first time I went to
• 1:06:36
  Jerusalem I've been there twice. The first time I went there.
• 1:06:39
  Every time I go there I get revelations from God.
• 1:06:42
  It's very fascinating to be there.
• 1:06:45
  It means something. And I was walking this was the
• 1:06:49
  day that they were, they're going to take us through the
• 1:06:53
  what happened to Jesus? So he was arrested.
• 1:06:57
  OK. He was, you know, brought to
• 1:07:00
  where was Herod exactly? Where was the governor of Rome?
• 1:07:04
  Pontius Pilate. Where where was it that they put
• 1:07:08
  the crown of thorns on his head and did the things you do to a
• 1:07:11
  Passover lamb? Where where was all that?
• 1:07:15
  So we kind of started to to walk and start to see those places.
• 1:07:18
  Cause Jerusalem is very small, the old cities like a city
• 1:07:21
  block. And suddenly this idea came to
• 1:07:25
  me, which was why didn't Abraham, when he came here with
• 1:07:32
  Sarah, why didn't God just give him the land then why is it that
• 1:07:37
  he had to go down to Egypt? Why does that?
• 1:07:39
  His children went down to Egypt, became slaves.
• 1:07:42
  And then I realized because they were not numerous enough, they
• 1:07:47
  couldn't take on all these tribes.
• 1:07:49
  Yes, their time hadn't come, yes these.
• 1:07:52
  But there was also a practical nature to it.
• 1:07:54
  They were not numerous enough to to defeat all the tribes and to
• 1:07:58
  inhabit the land. So the first day a nation had to
• 1:08:02
  be born, and in the same thought, in as I was having this
• 1:08:07
  thought, the second thought came right in, which was why didn't
• 1:08:12
  the Lord establish the Kingdom the first time he came?
• 1:08:14
  Because it the Jewish people, you know, governing the entire
• 1:08:20
  planet and all the souls in it. Now there's enough followers.
• 1:08:26
  Tomorrow Jesus comes back and he says rise and stand with me.
• 1:08:32
  People from all nations suddenly will rise and stand with him.
• 1:08:36
  Now there is a structure, an infrastructure to establish the
• 1:08:40
  millennial Kingdom and and to run it on the scale of, you
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  know, 7 billion people or how many will be alive when he
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  comes. Because it seems that some of
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  these apocalyptic prophecies of judgement over the Antichrist's
• 1:08:54
  Kingdom, you know, there's some of them are heavy duty.
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  So we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
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  But still, I suspect that there'll be billions of people.
• 1:09:03
  And how many of these billions will actually know the Lord?
• 1:09:06
  You know, we all pray for revival.
• 1:09:08
  I certainly do and pray for end time revival.
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  So I hope that more and more people will will come.
• 1:09:14
  Yet it's clear to me that it won't be the entire planet.
• 1:09:17
  It won't be the every individual and certainly not so that
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  everyone has ever lived. But but that's not important
• 1:09:23
  'cause they don't come back to life, but the ones that are here
• 1:09:25
  when he establishes the Kingdom. So what happens to them?
• 1:09:29
  Well, if you, if you don't skip the millennial Kingdom, now an
• 1:09:33
  entire government has to be established.
• 1:09:35
  And there's so much detail given about this in the olden
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  testament, the New Testament in the Book of Revelation that it's
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  virtually impossible when you take all of that into
• 1:09:45
  consideration to spiritualize, allegorize the entire thing and
• 1:09:50
  throw it away. So I'm confident that one more
• 1:09:55
  time, as Chuck Misters to say, if you can take the Bible
• 1:09:58
  literally, if you can take prophecy literally, do.
• 1:10:02
  And I certainly can take the millennial reign of Christ
• 1:10:06
  announced the Book of Revelation as far as the timing, literally
• 1:10:10
  because to understand it, I have to connect it to all of these
• 1:10:13
  passages throughout the Bible to talk about it.
• 1:10:16
  And when I do that, I see, wow, it's always literal.
• 1:10:19
  The Lord understood it that way as well.
• 1:10:21
  The Book of Revelation is finally giving us, you know,
• 1:10:24
  more precision about the length and the fact that we'll be given
• 1:10:28
  a crown and and things like that.
• 1:10:30
  It's. It's adding to it, but it's not
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  replacing or rethinking the way it was always understood.
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  Superlative, Ali. I mean it's it's always multi
• 1:10:41
  layered and just sitting back and listening to how you
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  delivered this information here to me tonight and, you know, to
• 1:10:51
  the audience when this gets aired, it's sobering, it's
• 1:10:54
  exciting. There's still a bit of mystery
• 1:10:57
  for me, you know, just like a longing of when exactly you
• 1:11:03
  know, Does that begin? Do I get to participate?
• 1:11:06
  You know, there's just it's complex, but it's also not
• 1:11:08
  complex. It's very hard for me to try to
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  explain how I'm feeling about what I'm hearing and what's
• 1:11:15
  inside of me. The longing to taste of that and
• 1:11:20
  it's it's good. It's OK and good to live with
• 1:11:24
  mystery. Yes, I think you're right.
• 1:11:29
  We don't have to know everything.
• 1:11:32
  I know our mind wants to figure it all out, but it's OK to live
• 1:11:35
  with mystery and and it is hard to understand and see because
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  it's a very different reality from anything we've ever
• 1:11:43
  experienced. So it is like we're touching it
• 1:11:45
  through these promises and prophecies.
• 1:11:48
  But it's hard to actually have an experience as far as the
• 1:11:52
  timing is concerned. So the in the book of in the
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  book of Acts when Peter speaks of Pentecost, he Shavuot, that's
• 1:12:05
  the biblical feast. He quotes the book of Jewel Joel
• 1:12:09
  and he says that in the end times the Akhari Taimim which
• 1:12:14
  was a concept of of the Old Testament that the Holy Spirit
• 1:12:18
  would be given and so he says this is what you're living.
• 1:12:21
  So at Pentecost he declares the end times.
• 1:12:24
  So the end times is the period of history because there are
• 1:12:28
  cycles and ages of history in the Bible.
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  It's the period of history that is sandwiched between the first
• 1:12:37
  and second coming of Jesus. It is sandwiched between It's
• 1:12:40
  the end of the age of empire. But yet the actual messianic
• 1:12:44
  Kingdom hasn't begun. There is another age, in a way,
• 1:12:47
  mysterious aged in the dream of Nebuchadnezzar.
• 1:12:51
  You see, the Pebble comes, hits the hits the foot of the clay,
• 1:12:55
  and the whole thing collapses. And you think, oh, it's just
• 1:12:58
  like that. But then Peter comes and says,
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  no, no, well, we've entered now this end time.
• 1:13:03
  And he's like, OK, you know, in the letter that people write to
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  Paul in Thessaloniki from the Greek town of Thessaloniki,
• 1:13:12
  they're concerned that the messiahs come and they've missed
• 1:13:15
  it. And he says to them, we don't
• 1:13:16
  have that letter, But it's implied in his response.
• 1:13:19
  He says, no, don't worry about it.
• 1:13:21
  Don't let people fool you. First, the son of Perdition has
• 1:13:24
  to come. You know there's going to be
• 1:13:25
  heresies. The son of Perdition is going to
• 1:13:27
  come. He's going to, you know, call
• 1:13:29
  himself above all that is called God in the temple.
• 1:13:32
  There's going to be a mass delusion.
• 1:13:34
  So he says don't worry, these things haven't happened yet.
• 1:13:36
  So the you haven't missed it. And so it's clear that as it
• 1:13:43
  starts to go on, these guys didn't expect that this age of
• 1:13:46
  history, the end times would go on for 2000 years.
• 1:13:50
  But many things have happened in these 2000 years.
• 1:13:53
  So now we see that this is this in this period of history called
• 1:13:56
  the end times. There would be a partial
• 1:13:59
  blindness of the Jews. There would be an awakening of
• 1:14:02
  the Gentiles. There would be a dispersion of
• 1:14:04
  the Jewish people. The gospel would go out to the
• 1:14:07
  fore. The spirit of the Antichrist
• 1:14:09
  would be released, which would then compete with the Holy
• 1:14:12
  Spirit and wrestle with it. And and as it wrestles with it,
• 1:14:15
  it's the DNA of of 2000 years of history.
• 1:14:18
  Not enough time to really open that up, but it's it's
• 1:14:20
  foundational how history has, has, has unfolded.
• 1:14:24
  So we didn't realize that this was so jam packed, this period
• 1:14:28
  of history called the end times. But then what has happened in
• 1:14:34
  the Lords describes the birthing of the messianic Kingdom to the
• 1:14:40
  birthing of a child, a woman goes in labor.
• 1:14:43
  So it's like you have nine months of pregnancy, but then
• 1:14:46
  your water breaks. And So what happened in 1947,
• 1:14:49
  nineteen 48 was the water broke and we entered into what many
• 1:14:55
  people refer to as the birth Pang years.
• 1:14:59
  So now we are in the in the final stage of the final age
• 1:15:04
  that bridges the age of Empire and the Masonic Kingdom.
• 1:15:08
  Where the Masonic age has begun, the Holy Spirit has been given,
• 1:15:11
  The Son is sitting with the Father on a heavenly throne.
• 1:15:15
  All that is happening in this age, he's sitting on the throne
• 1:15:17
  right now. He's in charge.
• 1:15:19
  All, all power and authority has been given to him.
• 1:15:22
  It's very important to understand that, very important
• 1:15:24
  to understand that that all power and authority on heaven
• 1:15:28
  and earth has been given to Jesus by the heart of the
• 1:15:30
  Father. He is on the throne.
• 1:15:32
  He is ruling. He is the governor of men and
• 1:15:34
  angels. It's He is in charge.
• 1:15:37
  So this is the age we're in. And now the birth pang years
• 1:15:41
  begin in 19748. And when you look at birth pangs
• 1:15:44
  from the time the water breaks to time the baby comes, it's
• 1:15:46
  pretty quick. Some people say that, hey, it
• 1:15:49
  was gonna happen in one generation because the Lord
• 1:15:52
  seemed to suggest in the Gospels that it would happen in a
• 1:15:54
  generation. And people go, well, what was
• 1:15:57
  that generation? Was it the generation that lived
• 1:15:59
  2000 years ago? How do you understand the
• 1:16:01
  generation? Well in the Bible, in the book
• 1:16:05
  of Psalms, it says that a person will live 70 years and if
• 1:16:08
  they're healthy 80. And and it's interesting that
• 1:16:14
  sorry, that's you may hear a Ding sometimes I'm receiving
• 1:16:18
  emails so basically a generation 70 to 80 years and if you look
• 1:16:25
  at actually human history you see that that is usually a
• 1:16:31
  lifespan. Sometimes people live longer and
• 1:16:35
  sometimes people will live shorter.
• 1:16:36
  Even though the Bible says we've got to 120, but not a lot of
• 1:16:39
  people seem to make it to 120, but 70 to 80, that that is kind
• 1:16:44
  of, you know, a normal lifespan. Some people live a bit longer
• 1:16:48
  and some people live a little bit shorter, but that seems to
• 1:16:50
  be the case. And so a generation is counted
• 1:16:53
  from the time that a person is born.
• 1:16:58
  When you look at, let's see if you right now look at the people
• 1:17:00
  that are born and are newborns and are and and are walking on,
• 1:17:04
  you know, four legs and and arms like you know, they're crawling.
• 1:17:07
  The kids that are crawling right now, they are the beginning of a
• 1:17:10
  generation. And when those kids turn 80, you
• 1:17:13
  can say that a generation of right now we're seeing, for
• 1:17:15
  instance, the end of the baby Boomer generation and they're,
• 1:17:19
  they're passing the baton to the millennials.
• 1:17:21
  And so this is kind of where we are right now.
• 1:17:24
  And usually when we get to these moments where one generation is
• 1:17:28
  dying and and passing the baton it, it always corresponds to
• 1:17:32
  periods of great upheaval in history.
• 1:17:33
  So if we say, OK, it's one generation now, do we count it
• 1:17:37
  from 1947 or do we count it from 1967, which is when Jerusalem
• 1:17:44
  becomes part of the Jewish Commonwealth and the Messianic
• 1:17:49
  movement begins the awakening among the Jewish people as to
• 1:17:51
  who the Messiah is. And so by the way, I don't think
• 1:17:56
  they're converting to Christianity.
• 1:17:58
  I think that that the Gentiles have converted to the Judaism of
• 1:18:02
  Jesus Christ. You know the Gentiles have
• 1:18:04
  accepted Jesus as their teacher, as their rabbi and his
• 1:18:07
  interpretation of the Torah and the Old Testament as the real
• 1:18:11
  one. The Jews are not converting.
• 1:18:14
  They already are in the faith of the worship of the God of
• 1:18:16
  Israel. Everybody else is is letting go
• 1:18:18
  of the gods and and joining them.
• 1:18:20
  So, so just the minor thing. But regardless to come back to
• 1:18:24
  the generation 7080 years. Now what I find interesting is
• 1:18:30
  that there are another biblical principle of the the the
• 1:18:33
  Jubilee. So in the Bible it says in the
• 1:18:37
  Old Testament that every 50 years all debts are forgiven,
• 1:18:41
  all slaves who are indentured slaves who have to work because
• 1:18:45
  they have debt are are returned less set free and and their
• 1:18:50
  lands are returned. Like if if someone owes money to
• 1:18:53
  someone else, like if I owed money to someone in ancient
• 1:18:56
  Israel, I couldn't pay it. I would have my lands would
• 1:18:59
  become his and I would work on my own lands who are free for
• 1:19:02
  him and pay him through the harvest.
• 1:19:05
  But if it was the year of Jubilee, which is counted every
• 1:19:08
  50 years, because 7 year cycles, the land has to rest.
• 1:19:14
  You cultivate the land for the six years and let it rest for
• 1:19:17
  seven. It will you count seven of those
• 1:19:20
  sevens and add 1. You get the 50th year and there
• 1:19:25
  everything is reset. All debts are forgiven.
• 1:19:29
  I would my land would be given back to me.
• 1:19:31
  You'd have to forgive my debts. And this was called the year of
• 1:19:34
  Jubilee. And so when you look at it from
• 1:19:37
  that point of view, it is interesting to know that in
• 1:19:40
  1917, Lord Balfour gives the declaration that this land is to
• 1:19:47
  a Jewish homeland is to be built and then 50 years later is 1967
• 1:19:52
  when Jerusalem is returned to the Jewish people.
• 1:19:55
  So as though inheritance is being gradually returned, first
• 1:19:58
  the land, then Jerusalem, and 50 years after 1967 you get to to
• 1:20:01
  2017 where? The most important leader of the
• 1:20:07
  most important country of the world.
• 1:20:08
  You know President Trump declares Jerusalem the capital
• 1:20:11
  of Jewish people and moves the embassy there.
• 1:20:13
  So it it again confirms the idea of inheritance as being
• 1:20:17
  returned. And of course the ultimate
• 1:20:18
  inheritance is the Messiah. So.
• 1:20:21
  So if you look at also look at it from that point of view, I do
• 1:20:24
  find it interesting that if I start counting the generations
• 1:20:30
  from 1967 and I go OK, if I if I count from 1967, so how do you
• 1:20:38
  count the generation, Do you choose 70 or do you choose
• 1:20:41
  eighty? Well, you actually are dealing
• 1:20:43
  with real people in this case. So you actually have to pull up
• 1:20:47
  the how many how many years does an A person in Israel live?
• 1:20:53
  Because that's how a generation is calculated ultimately is you
• 1:20:57
  look at the lifespan of people from birth to death and so their
• 1:21:01
  lifespan right now is around 83 years in Israel.
• 1:21:06
  So if I if I take 1967 and I add 80 to it since the Bible says 7
• 1:21:11
  to 8 years that takes me to 2047 which is the 100 year or double
• 1:21:16
  jubilee of 1947 which was the year when Israel was born as a
• 1:21:21
  nation. So I find that that is
• 1:21:25
  interesting that that the if I count the generation from 1967
• 1:21:29
  which is the IT it in and it's 80 years it corresponds to the
• 1:21:35
  to a double jubilee of 1947. So the the the United Nations in
• 1:21:41
  November of 1947 said OK there will be a country here the the
• 1:21:46
  the whole world voted it's a legal thing it has legal status
• 1:21:51
  overnight a nation was born which is a fulfillment of
• 1:21:53
  prophecy from Isaiah 66 then they it was declared that the
• 1:21:57
  mandate of the British would would be over on in May of 1948.
• 1:22:01
  So that's when the transition happened but really it was 1947,
• 1:22:06
  the nation was born and so if you say 50 is is an important
• 1:22:10
  cycle of biblical history where inheritance of return double 50
• 1:22:15
  is even you know it's it's double Jubilee.
• 1:22:17
  So suddenly 195047 double jubilees 202047 and and that
• 1:22:25
  corresponds to the 80th year from 1967 a generation.
• 1:22:31
  So the people that were born at the time where the 6th day war
• 1:22:37
  happened, which was a miraculous war that gave the nation
• 1:22:42
  Jerusalem back in fulfilment of biblical prophecy, it was the
• 1:22:47
  most important thing Chuck Mr. is to say, you know, he was the
• 1:22:50
  CEO and they're sitting in the cafeteria of a company watching
• 1:22:53
  the news and they're thinking the shit that we're going
• 1:22:56
  through our bibles to understand what this war was about and if
• 1:22:58
  they had any biblical significance.
• 1:23:00
  And then he said suddenly in the third day of the war, Moshe
• 1:23:03
  Dayan, the general was walking in the streets of Jerusalem and
• 1:23:06
  he went on the radio and he broadcasted and he said we have
• 1:23:11
  Jerusalem And he said Chuck's like, I mean you right then and
• 1:23:15
  then that moment what this war was all about.
• 1:23:19
  And so the the entire thing that that we're getting closer to to
• 1:23:24
  the time where the Lord will rule out of the sea of Jerusalem
• 1:23:27
  and God is summoning Jerusalem from the hand of the gods and
• 1:23:31
  from the hand of empire backed into the hand of his covenanted
• 1:23:35
  people in preparation for the second coming.
• 1:23:38
  But half of Jerusalem is still a contentious land in Zechariah
• 1:23:41
  14. You see this going to be be a
• 1:23:43
  source of of of where the enemy strikes.
• 1:23:46
  So or I don't want to get ahead of it.
• 1:23:48
  You know, I I can't detail the prophecies get to it.
• 1:23:53
  So that's possible that it's just an idea, this is a
• 1:23:57
  conjecture that's possible that you know 2047 and if you go 100
• 1:24:04
  years from 20 from 19672067, these are two years 2047 and
• 1:24:10
  2067. I like, 'cause if if you go from
• 1:24:12
  20, from 1967, the people that were born on that year when
• 1:24:18
  Jerusalem became part of the Jewish Commonwealth would be 80
• 1:24:22
  years old in 2047, it would be one generation.
• 1:24:25
  Exactly. And the Lord said that a
• 1:24:27
  generation wouldn't pass, so they wouldn't be dying.
• 1:24:29
  And so they're kind of living till 8384.
• 1:24:33
  So these are these are kind of things that I look at is the
• 1:24:37
  Jubilee year, the patterns that that have already taken shape
• 1:24:41
  around this people in this land since they're coming.
• 1:24:45
  So the Jubilee seems to be a pattern.
• 1:24:47
  The generation seems to fit if you count it from the 67.
• 1:24:50
  So 20472067 these are two years that I that that I think are
• 1:24:55
  good. I think when the Lord said no
• 1:24:58
  one knows of the season and time is because the father is hiding
• 1:25:02
  it from the enemy, it's going to be a surprise.
• 1:25:05
  But of course as we get closer and closer and closer to it and
• 1:25:08
  we start to see the signs, you know, so it becomes possible to
• 1:25:15
  start to see it happen and and to understand it.
• 1:25:18
  Like when we know there's going to be a seven-year period called
• 1:25:22
  the tribulation, as as you know, Bible scholars have called it
• 1:25:25
  that, it's because there shall be great tribulation.
• 1:25:29
  And so that's it's clear, it says that the the Antichrist is
• 1:25:34
  definitely going to a rule, especially for 3 1/2 years.
• 1:25:38
  There's so many passages that say that so, so now we know.
• 1:25:42
  Let's say the 3 1/2 year point of the Antichrist reign where he
• 1:25:46
  seems to go full cultish and declare himself as like the
• 1:25:51
  representative of a new religion.
• 1:25:53
  Like he's the Messiah and and and maybe AI and hybrids and and
• 1:26:00
  things that you know that that are needed to understand that
• 1:26:05
  all of this are are not coming to life in our imagination.
• 1:26:08
  So you know if you're here and you see that well you know the
• 1:26:10
  Lord's coming in 3 1/2 years. So, so, so definitely you know
• 1:26:15
  there is there are biblical weeks.
• 1:26:18
  There are seasons and times and as we get closer to it we we can
• 1:26:22
  start to see it. And maybe that's why the UFO
• 1:26:25
  phenomenon started in 1947 and with with Kenneth Arnold,
• 1:26:29
  because that was the year that the Lord appointed for the birth
• 1:26:33
  of Israel. And they also are following the
• 1:26:36
  story of the Bible because Satan quotes it to Jesus.
• 1:26:38
  And I think at that point, the bell rang in their minds too.
• 1:26:41
  They're like, it's time now, of course, the Lord could make it
• 1:26:46
  last another 200 years, for he really can and and it could
• 1:26:50
  happen in the 21st century sometime or not.
• 1:26:55
  You know, you don't want to, like put, you know, you don't
• 1:26:58
  want to make these conversations into religious statements.
• 1:27:02
  But I don't think, I don't feel it's forbidden to, you know, to
• 1:27:06
  to consider these things. You just don't want to kind of
• 1:27:09
  be like a cult leader. That creates A cult where it's
• 1:27:11
  like everybody in your cult believes.
• 1:27:13
  That the Lord's going to come on this year.
• 1:27:15
  Now it's like you're. You know, you're the leader of
• 1:27:17
  this cult that believes this. It's like, who are those guys?
• 1:27:20
  They're the they're the 247 guys.
• 1:27:22
  They're the two, you know, OK. No, you know, I mean, you know,
• 1:27:25
  when I get silly, you know, But but it's OK, I think, to to
• 1:27:30
  freely ponder these things. And the Lord wants us to have
• 1:27:33
  these thoughts. It's OK.
• 1:27:35
  Yeah, I think that's such an important point that yes, we
• 1:27:38
  kind of come to the end of this episode and everything that's
• 1:27:41
  been laid out. We shouldn't have confidence to
• 1:27:45
  say this day this is the hour. The the Bible actually tells us
• 1:27:49
  against that. And I like how you kind of wound
• 1:27:51
  down with the idea that not everybody has to be on the same
• 1:27:55
  page. I think one of the things that a
• 1:27:57
  mature Christian can understand is like, man, I was wrong about
• 1:28:00
  some stuff. I was thinking five years ago.
• 1:28:02
  So in five years from now, I might be wrong about some stuff
• 1:28:06
  I'm thinking today, right? And it's like, so once we have
• 1:28:09
  that humility that is like, man, we we are really growing and
• 1:28:13
  expanding and understanding and and God is moving.
• 1:28:17
  And there's the stages being set.
• 1:28:20
  The stage is being set. The signs are there but staying
• 1:28:24
  away from like trying to get other people to agree with you.
• 1:28:28
  I I agree with that, Ali, because one of my whole things
• 1:28:31
  is, is like hey, the information's here.
• 1:28:34
  If people don't like it, they don't have to listen.
• 1:28:35
  People do listen. That means it's helping certain
• 1:28:38
  people and out of that I can't control the ripple effect of
• 1:28:41
  what people decide to do with this information.
• 1:28:44
  So why even try to get people to to you know what I mean?
• 1:28:47
  Be narrowed into a very controllable, manipulated
• 1:28:52
  mindset. Yeah.
• 1:28:53
  No, it's just kind of like work out your own salvation with fear
• 1:28:55
  and trembling. The Bible says, right.
• 1:28:57
  And then there's this fivefold ministry aspect that I see.
• 1:29:00
  The Prophet should be working with teachers.
• 1:29:02
  We should be working with the servants.
• 1:29:04
  Like, we're a body. Jesus calls us a body.
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  So that's another thing that like I am always kind of looking
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  through the lens of like the compassion of like, you know
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  what Lord, like you you bring Ali along to to talk about all
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  this tonight and it's stirring me up And your spirit, it's one
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  spirit, one truth, one baptism. So but the diversity of gift,
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  what you have done tonight, the ripple effect can go out and
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  actually cause other positions to start to come into order.
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  I've seen it on a smaller scale, but God says it's going to
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  happen on the grandiose scale of his every yacht and title coming
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  to pass exactly as he's ordained.
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  So we're we're capturing it moment by moment, and it's just
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  beautiful, man, I I'm really thankful for you coming on
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  tonight. I hope this is not the last
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  time. I want to just invite you back
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  right here on the spot. What are you doing next Tuesday
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  at 4 now? I'm just kidding, but I I want
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  to get an e-mail sent and literally get you locked in,
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  'cause I feel like the audience is going to say, hold on, whoa,
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  whoa, I got questions on this. What does Ali think about this?
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  So it just would be an honor to have you back in the near.
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  Future I'd be glad that to to come back, Rod.
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  It's to share any insight that the Lord may give me from
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  scripture. And I'm enjoyed the conversation
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  very much as well. You know, I was watching a mini
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  documentary someone sent me recently about the people that
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  live in Judea and Samaria. It's called the West Bank.
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  The settlers, you know, the people who live in those very
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  contentious settlements, and they're Orthodox Jews,
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  essentially. And it's.
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  Kind of a a. Closed world and they don't know
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  what we believe in and and Christians don't know what they
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  believe in. But this documentary maker, who
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  is a Christian woman, lives among them.
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  You know, she was allowed to film and she was talking to them
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  and it was interesting how what they were saying, they were
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  saying, look, there's a prophecy in Ezekiel chapter 37 about the
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  value of dried bones coming to life.
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  Yes. And they said, you know, for
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  them the dry bones was the dry bones of the Holocaust, 'cause
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  they all looked like bones at the end of the Holocaust, and
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  they were left for dead. And then they said these towns
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  that we're building in the Judea and Samaria, these are like the
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  different parts of the body. Once it's complete, they said
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  they feel this is what the Lord is doing through them.
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  Once all the towns and settlements are complete, they
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  will connect together and form the body.
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  And then they said the breath of life will be breathed into it.
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  So. So they really feel like
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  literally their settlements and towns are like the bones of this
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  body. So it's interesting how the the
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  perspective they have being right there and doing this.
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  And so definitely you're right there is a interconnectivity in
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  the body of the Messiah in the body of Christ and and we all
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  have a role to play and a calling to answer and and we may
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  not see the full body he does but we definitely by obeying fit
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  in the structure and and edify the whole.
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  So I think, you know, we're right about that.
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  So people want to watch my documentary.
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  They can just go to thinkagainproductions.com and
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  watch it right there. And then sign up for the Patreon
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  page. And you can leave a donation on
• 1:32:28
  a monthly basis on Patreon if you want to support my ministry.
• 1:32:31
  And if not, you know, that's fine.
• 1:32:34
  But you can join the Patreon page anyhow and listen to the
• 1:32:37
  audio series in the revelation. And they look forward to our
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  next conversation. Thank you for having me.
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  It has been an honor and just a pleasure and it's been eye
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  opening and edifying to have you.
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  So I really do look forward to you appearing here for another
• 1:32:53
  edifying and deep, thorough conversation in the near future.
• 1:32:58
  Well, that is it. That's the show you guys.
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  I'm going to ask you to share this with your friends, your
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  family members, with your Co worker.
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  I want you to share this with your pastor coming to you from
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  southeastern Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye you.
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  Are the reason I'm grateful you're worthy.
• 1:33:30
  You are the reason I'm grateful. Before I finish up the song, I
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  gotta give credit. Lord, you help me put my ATM and
• 1:35:50
  that's a debit. I'm purchasing things now.
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  I gotta sneak a fetish. I like them Pumas over there.
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  Yeah, they look reddish. To whom much is given.
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  Also when I was required. Your word is going to stand.
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  I gotta press through the fire. The economy is messed up but I
• 1:36:04
  still gotta hire. If it fits your plan, one day I
• 1:36:07
  can hire you. The reason I'm grateful you're
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  worthy. You are the reason I'm grateful
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  you're worthy. You are the reason I'm grateful
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  you're worthy. You are the reason I'm grateful
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  you're worthy.