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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow morning for Thursday, June twentieth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game in seventy two days, the game against
- 0:06Michigan in one hundred and sixty three days. When that Akron game rolls around,
- 0:10we will get a chance to see year three of the Jim Knowles defense.
- 0:14Expectations safe to say, pretty high for that defense this year. But
- 0:19obviously there's a lot of returning talent. Obviously there's some new talent and guys
- 0:22like Caleb Downs, But what is that defense really get to look like?
- 0:26How aggressive are they going to be? Well, we're going to be talking
- 0:28about that today with our buddy Tony Gerdaman a fucke huddle dot com. He
- 0:31just wrote about that on our site. You can read that. You can
- 0:34have a be part of the very interactive conversation about that article on the Huddle
- 0:38Word, presented by Jefferuby Steakhouse. But Tony, the reason is the genesis
- 0:43of this article was a question to Ryan Day. We got a chance to
- 0:46talk to him earlier in the week. He was asked about, you know,
- 0:49how aggressive of the defense going to be? And what did he have
- 0:52to say? Yeah, it's a question I've had, so I asked him
- 0:56and he said they're working on that right now. And basically the example is
- 1:02Jim Knowles's first two years very contrasting styles of aggression and having those as maybe
- 1:07two baselines or two examples where you're going to fall into your aggression levels this
- 1:12year, And he said, that's what they're talking about right now. And
- 1:17you kind of have an idea of what you'd like to do, who you
- 1:19have that can do it, as he said, you can draw out blitzer
- 1:23as it doesn't mean you have guys that are effective blitzers, And so they've
- 1:26got to decide who those guys are, who does what best, who fits
- 1:30in what roles best. And then the other factor into all of this is
- 1:36who are you playing as you don't need to throw out you know, you
- 1:38don't need to go crazy against Akron. You know you might want to go
- 1:42crazy against Oregon and throw some stuff out there. But also they've got a
- 1:45veteran quarterback. So all of these different factors come into play about who you
- 1:49should attack, how you should attack, and who is good at attacking on
- 1:53your team. And when you look at this year's Ohio State team. You
- 1:57can make a you know, the reason they're in this conversation is because you
- 2:00could make a case that, you know, hey, maybe you have so
- 2:04much talent you might want to play it safe. And you can also make
- 2:07the argument that, hey, you have so much talent, you can be
- 2:09more aggressive. So I guess let's state the case for being less aggressive,
- 2:15because in some ways, you know, it's not just the opponent, it's
- 2:17also what's the offense doing. How do they feel like the offense is doing.
- 2:21How do they feel, you know, do they feel they can make
- 2:23up, you know, make up for you know, can they compensate for
- 2:27being less aggressive just because of the pure talent on that defense? Oh yeah,
- 2:30and that's you look at what Iowa has done over the years. They
- 2:34don't do a ton of blitzing. They're just really good at playing their base
- 2:37defense and doing what they do. And so you have to assume when you
- 2:40don't have to assume. You know, when Ryan Day was watching Jim Knowle's
- 2:44first defense in twenty twenty two with plenty of talent, more talent than Iowa,
- 2:50and they're they're attacking and missing tackles and out of position, and you're
- 2:54like, why are we doing all of this? What is it accomplishing?
- 2:58And it was nine percent of the time worked. Every time. It was
- 3:02that other five percent that would lead to big plays. And so like,
- 3:07if we just keep everything in front of us, and and you have J.
- 3:12T. Twohim all the while going against a left tackle or right tackle,
- 3:15Jack Sawyer going against left tackle, right tackle, those guys are going
- 3:17to win some win, win some battles. The interior is going to keep
- 3:21the those guys occupied. You have fantastic corners on the outside. And if
- 3:25you've got defensive ends that can get after the quarterback, and you've got defensive
- 3:30backs that can cover receivers, and then you have a Caleb Downs as your
- 3:34last line of defense, you can afford to just relax and play everything straight
- 3:39up because you're gonna win more battles than not. It's just a matter of
- 3:45do you know, do you are you comfortable just giving up a little bit
- 3:47here and there kind of the the the dink and dunk type of stuff and
- 3:52eventually they're not going to pick up that third and six. Yeah, And
- 3:57that that is, you know, typically a pretty reliable strategy, especially against
- 4:00lesser competition, where you know, if the quarterback is not particularly consistent,
- 4:04and you're asking him to hit two to three passes every set of downs,
- 4:09you're going to miss some. I mean, these are these are college quarterbacks.
- 4:12Some mother is not a hashtag college quarterbacks on Twitter, the way there
- 4:15is a hashtag college kickers for a lot of guys. There might as well
- 4:19be, because that is asking a lot for guys to make consistent brows and
- 4:24get the ball down the field like that. And you know, there certainly
- 4:28was a case to be made in twenty twenty two when OHI to give up
- 4:31a lot of very big plays. You take away the big plays against Michigan,
- 4:34you take away the big plays against Georgia. That team is probably undefeated,
- 4:39but the aggressiveness is part of why they were successful at time. So
- 4:42now let's talk about the case for being more aggressive, because you probably could
- 4:46for the vast majority of the season just sit back and just out talent people,
- 4:50keep things pretty vanilla, and you're going to win at least ten games
- 4:56on your schedule, probably just based on the pure talent of your team being
- 5:00greater than the talent on the opposing sidelines. But then there are gonna be
- 5:03the games where you can't. The talent is equated games that Ryan Day talks
- 5:06about all the time, and it feels like you can't just go double a
- 5:12gup blitz on every play. Obviously you have to be you know, smart
- 5:15about how you're aggressive, but you're gonna have to be mixing it up and
- 5:18being more aggressive against some of those teams too, yeah, for sure.
- 5:23And you also have to figure when you have very talented pass rushers who are
- 5:30already causing issues for an offensive line, you would think a blitzer here and
- 5:34there is going to be more effective because the offensive line is gonna be very
- 5:40preoccupied, quarterback's going to be maybe looking into rush a little bit, and
- 5:44so blitzing can be more effective. And then it also always depends on what
- 5:48do you have behind the blitzer, and do you have if you've got a
- 5:54Caleb Downs back there or you know, a life and ransom. If Caleb
- 5:57Downs is blitzing, they've got guys and secondary that can cover ground and are
- 6:03very good at being at coverage, at not missing tackles, at just being
- 6:09sound. And really, if you've got to sound back end, then you
- 6:13can be more aggressive in that front seven. And then you look at what
- 6:17they've got to work with. And Jim Knowles has said repeatedly you look at
- 6:21CJ. Hicks, who was the number one will linebacker all spring, but
- 6:25also said he's he's better as a blitzer than anything else at this point,
- 6:29so they like to do that with him. And you look at a Sonny
- 6:32Styles playing the same position, can do some different things. Two very athletic
- 6:38guys. Can they play together the different ways that you can use them.
- 6:42Sunny Styles is accustomed to coverage and is still probably underrated or underutilized as a
- 6:50pass rusher, and maybe we'll see some of that this year. But you
- 6:55know, Jordan Hancock likes to blitz from that nickel spot. We've seen Lathan
- 6:59Ransom do it. So they've got guys that can do it and want to
- 7:01do it, and they also have the guys that can be behind them and
- 7:05help them out, and there won't You would think there'd be fewer coverage busts
- 7:11with this Now, you're not going to eliminate all of them because you're playing
- 7:14some pretty decent teams too, especially when as you said, their talent is
- 7:16equated. But it's just a matter of you get the quarterback off of his
- 7:21timing, you get the routes screwed up a little bit, with the quarterback
- 7:26maybe being forced to get rid of the ball quicker, and you're just trying
- 7:30to change the pace and trying to make the quarterback just never, never comfortable.
- 7:35And that's one of the I think the downsides to just playing things straight
- 7:39up. Yeah, And I think a big part of making that quarterback uncomfortable
- 7:44is really mixing up those looks and mixing up the coverages and mixing up the
- 7:48level of aggression. Because if you have the luxury of having, you know,
- 7:55being able to be aggressive, but you also have the luxury of being
- 7:57able to sort of play it a little more straight up the Iowa style defense
- 8:01where you're just kind of you do what you do and you're going to just
- 8:03out execute them. That's the stuff that makes you predictable where you can do
- 8:09you know, it's a pitcher who has four pitches that he can throw for
- 8:11strikes. All four pitches, you don't know what's coming, you can you
- 8:15know, and and if you're looking fastball and you get the change, or
- 8:18maybe even more problematically, if you're looking change and you get the express,
- 8:20well that's pretty hard. And that makes it hard for your posing play callers,
- 8:26that makes it hard for opposing quarterbacks. That's the stuff where you're going
- 8:31to get. You get the silly mistakes, you get the oops, Hey,
- 8:35I you know, what did you think you were going to see out
- 8:37there? I thought this guy, you know, I thought this was going
- 8:39to come and then all of a sudden, boom, it's coming from a
- 8:41different angle, or you're expecting a blitz and they drop or vice versa.
- 8:45That's the stuff that creates mistakes and that leads to turnovers. Yeah, And
- 8:50it's very similar to the pitcher that can throw all four pitches for strikes on
- 8:54any count. And if you've got a defense that can effectively blitz on any
- 8:58down and diss since, then you truly have no idea what to expect.
- 9:03And so that's what they're working on. That's what they'd like to have.
- 9:05And I know with the offense that they have as well, you figure they're
- 9:09going to score more points than last year. So then that kind of begs
- 9:15the same question, Does that mean they can be more aggressive on defense?
- 9:16Yes? Does it mean they need to be? No? So what do
- 9:20you want to do? Probably? Ryan das sided on ONTs to be aggressive
- 9:24in all facets of the game, or at least that's what he says.
- 9:26We have not yet seen it on the special teams. We've seen it routinely
- 9:30in defense, and then last year they kind of backed off of it,
- 9:31and we're one of the best defenses in the nation. So the proof of
- 9:35concept that he's always looking for is they were really good on defense last year
- 9:39and they did not do as much blitzing as Jim Noles normally does, and
- 9:43not nearly as many bells and whistles as Jim Noles nearly does. So to
- 9:48why fix what isn't broken, Well, they did not. In fact,
- 9:54you were unbeaten last year, so it was at least it was at least
- 9:58occasionally from Owens where it could have been a little less broken. So yeah,
- 10:03we'll we'll see how they do this year. It's you know, it's
- 10:05gonna be an interesting year because there's so much talent and the third year of
- 10:09Jim Knowles being at Ohio State. You know, certainly they have installed just
- 10:13about everything that Jim Knowles has at this point. So he always talks about
- 10:16the toolbox and having the tools and toolbox between the between the Jimmies and Joe's,
- 10:20and the x'es and o's. I think this is probably the most tools
- 10:24that Jim Knowles has ever had in his toolbox, so we will see how
- 10:26he chooses to use them this fall. We'll be there for all those games,
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- 10:45all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.