Latest / Sports Allegedly / Ep105 The End Is Near For Football & Other Happenings In Sports
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- 0:49Speaker 1: Keviny line from Guinny's basement.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Apartment, where we are going to be rebranding to the
- 0:54Speaker 2: new Tangiers.
- 0:57Speaker 3: It Smarts allegedly.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Welcome, Coome, Welcome. Thank you all for joining us for
- 1:01Speaker 1: this episode. On this Happy Veterans Day, eleven eleven, twenty
- 1:09Speaker 1: twenty four, I want to thank all our veterans right
- 1:11Speaker 1: off the bat for all the service you do current.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Past and the ones.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Projected and the projected and the projected so in future one.
- 1:20Speaker 1: So thank you all for joining us for this episode
- 1:23Speaker 1: of sports Allegedly. So what I can't imagine what we
- 1:27Speaker 1: want to start with?
- 1:28Speaker 2: Well, I want to start with so I watched Casino
- 1:31Speaker 2: and realize that we are the the the poor man's casino,
- 1:36Speaker 2: the negative casino.
- 1:38Speaker 3: You're de Niro and I'm.
- 1:41Speaker 2: And where de Niro got everything right on Sports bets it.
- 1:46Speaker 1: We're so close, you get everything run We're so close.
- 1:49Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's start with the Oklahoma State Cowboys.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Tulsa had the week off. This week off probably a
- 1:55Speaker 1: good thing for them. It probably didn't matter for them.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Oh you needs a bye week. So let's start with
- 2:02Speaker 1: FIM thirty eight thirteen final.
- 2:05Speaker 4: It was twenty four nothing and a half. Oh issues
- 2:08Speaker 4: given up?
- 2:10Speaker 1: All right?
- 2:11Speaker 2: Did I saw the article where they did the quotes
- 2:15Speaker 2: from the TCU game, and uh, Gundy said something about
- 2:23Speaker 2: it is about the defense, and he goes, you don't
- 2:25Speaker 2: change things midstream, and I'm.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Like, you know, if you're pissing off the side of
- 2:30Speaker 1: the ball, you do change things midstream. Well, I think
- 2:32Speaker 1: that's a problem. I mean, we will talk about OU
- 2:34Speaker 1: later OSU. There's zero adjustments by either coaching staff when
- 2:38Speaker 1: you come out of halftime. They look worse as you
- 2:41Speaker 1: move on. You know, we used to talk about Bob
- 2:43Speaker 1: Stoops and even some of the coaches that were there
- 2:45Speaker 1: with Mike Gundy before that, and honestly, he's just got
- 2:49Speaker 1: he's not got good coordinators. I mean, why don't we
- 2:52Speaker 1: just say it had is? And then now as Gundy
- 2:54Speaker 1: is he you know, we've talked about him being kind
- 2:56Speaker 1: of lazy on the recruiting trail.
- 2:58Speaker 4: We talked about this last week.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Is this this mode into retirement or is he going
- 3:02Speaker 1: to kind of come back out of his shell and
- 3:04Speaker 1: try to win one? But three and seven I don't know.
- 3:07Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do and seven and
- 3:11Speaker 1: winless in the Big Twelve without Texas in Oklahoma.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I know they did so much better with Texas and
- 3:17Speaker 2: Oklahoma still in the Big Twelve. And it's not like
- 3:21Speaker 2: you you you you're not against teams that you haven't
- 3:23Speaker 2: played before because they played Colorado back in the past
- 3:26Speaker 2: and and they've been playing Arizona's in the Arizona States
- 3:32Speaker 2: as at a conference and I don't know what's going
- 3:36Speaker 2: on with that.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I know they've got some injuries. But at the same time,
- 3:39Speaker 1: now they have a bye week next week along with
- 3:42Speaker 1: the you same bye weeks again or for Oklahoma, then
- 3:45Speaker 1: they'll come Texas Tech will come to them, and then
- 3:48Speaker 1: they'll finish their season strong at eleven AM against Colorado,
- 3:53Speaker 1: which that game was probably set up to be a
- 3:55Speaker 1: precursor for maybe getting into that championship game. I would
- 3:59Speaker 1: have said that that was both those teams either way.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that that would have been.
- 4:03Speaker 1: That would have been a not a Big Noon, but
- 4:06Speaker 1: like a well that probably could it could be the
- 4:10Speaker 1: Fox Big noonor or what they were planning on, because
- 4:13Speaker 1: that should have been, you know, the the two teams
- 4:18Speaker 1: that were vying for that Big Twelve championship, or even
- 4:21Speaker 1: the two teams that were.
- 4:22Speaker 3: In it let his sun go.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Uh.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I don't know if that was probably a good idea
- 4:28Speaker 2: because it seems like a sudden Oh.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I think Bowman was a stop gap last year and
- 4:32Speaker 1: then they kept him for another year. And it's just
- 4:34Speaker 1: not it's just not working.
- 4:36Speaker 3: And we know, I know there's injuries on the defense,
- 4:38Speaker 3: but that that.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Well, we've also known different We've also known Gundy to
- 4:41Speaker 1: not play the right quarterback at the time. I mean,
- 4:43Speaker 1: Alex Kate was third second string and Brandon Wiedam his
- 4:46Speaker 1: third string in his second round.
- 4:48Speaker 2: PA bring in recently, he's brought in another guy recently, didn't.
- 4:51Speaker 1: He Well, he's got rang Gel And then they've got
- 4:54Speaker 1: the kid from Nebraska who's got an injury apparently.
- 4:56Speaker 4: So all right, let's move on.
- 4:59Speaker 1: So off week for them, let's move on to the
- 5:02Speaker 1: bigger debacle of I thought him go was was Oh
- 5:08Speaker 1: you Missouri, Oh you travels to Missouri. Missouri's got their
- 5:10Speaker 1: third string quarterback. Oh you actually went in as a
- 5:12Speaker 1: three point favorite before closed. You're you're up by seven winning.
- 5:17Speaker 3: All you gotta do is is hold under the ball.
- 5:19Speaker 4: Up by seven points.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Control the ball and listen.
- 5:26Speaker 3: And and you get a fumble return.
- 5:29Speaker 4: I'm I'm over the Jackson Arnold.
- 5:32Speaker 1: You you yeah, you texted me though you're definitely you're
- 5:35Speaker 1: over the Hawkins. The Jackson Arnold.
- 5:37Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily not sold on Hawkins yet.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But but you sent me. You sent me the but
- 5:41Speaker 1: every you know, his stats are fifteen to twenty four
- 5:45Speaker 1: seventy four yards. The punter threw you so longer pass. Well,
- 5:48Speaker 1: so did Taylor Tatum.
- 5:49Speaker 3: But you sent me the text.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Uh for and I'm sorry my voice is I was
- 5:54Speaker 2: screaming at people and at work. Uh you you sent
- 5:57Speaker 2: me the text about two lanes off in coordinator and
- 6:00Speaker 2: the quarterback that.
- 6:01Speaker 1: They well that's just been some rumors, not saying that
- 6:04Speaker 1: that's actual.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Right, Well, we don't know what's gonna happen. We don't
- 6:07Speaker 2: know that Venables is gonna be here next year.
- 6:10Speaker 4: Venables will be here next year, I know that.
- 6:12Speaker 2: But we do know that changes on the offense need
- 6:15Speaker 2: to be fixed.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Well, you know, and and the offensive line played a
- 6:20Speaker 1: little bit better. I thought, you know, you had no barns.
- 6:24Speaker 1: You had no barns, so Tatum, you know, uh, he
- 6:28Speaker 1: had only had eight carries.
- 6:30Speaker 3: For I know, but you gotta look at we had
- 6:32Speaker 3: the leading rusher in the game.
- 6:34Speaker 1: But was Xavier Yes, yes, a freshman, so I'm not
- 6:37Speaker 1: sure where the he's been. He's been on the bend
- 6:40Speaker 1: because they don't want to burn his red.
- 6:41Speaker 4: Shirt, and that's what they're doing.
- 6:42Speaker 1: They've already burned Jackson Arnold's and now you're looking at
- 6:45Speaker 1: other people. But one thing about can we stop throwing
- 6:47Speaker 1: to the fucking tight end? Bower Sharp's ain't good, He's
- 6:51Speaker 1: not any good.
- 6:52Speaker 3: He's just checkdown.
- 6:53Speaker 1: He's no. I mean, I really think I think Joe
- 6:56Speaker 1: John Finley is trying to prove some sort of point
- 6:59Speaker 1: that I wouldn't recruit a tight end, and I'm just
- 7:01Speaker 1: gonna keep throwing the ship.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Was that good?
- 7:04Speaker 1: That's the point of fans are watching these they know this.
- 7:08Speaker 1: They're not dummies. Oh you fans are season We've.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Had great tight ends come through, but still they were
- 7:15Speaker 2: not they were not the first read they were they
- 7:19Speaker 2: were not always the first read, or they were on
- 7:22Speaker 2: a slant.
- 7:23Speaker 3: You know, you got you got a tight end.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Going across and you're throwing five yards four yards every time.
- 7:31Speaker 3: You're hoping that.
- 7:32Speaker 1: He gets free. I really don't want to talk about it.
- 7:35Speaker 1: You're hoping that he gets free, and it was it
- 7:38Speaker 1: was a third down there you're facing a third down
- 7:40Speaker 1: quarterback your bet, you know, and then you let you
- 7:44Speaker 1: let burden who you lost the recruiting battle two three,
- 7:48Speaker 1: let transferred beat you and the defense blew.
- 7:52Speaker 2: I need you to reenact the Dylan Gabriel fumble like
- 7:56Speaker 2: you did from me earlier, Jackson Jackson Arnold.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Yeah, can you read act that like you did from
- 8:01Speaker 1: me earlier? Just like he just he's just running and
- 8:03Speaker 1: just drops stand you know, I mean, I'm not gonna no,
- 8:06Speaker 1: he just drops the ball.
- 8:07Speaker 4: It's like, are you on the take?
- 8:09Speaker 1: Well? Someone?
- 8:10Speaker 4: I mean, what is going on?
- 8:11Speaker 1: Are you that bad? I know?
- 8:12Speaker 2: But whenever we were the Old Mess game and one
- 8:14Speaker 2: of the sacks that he took, the guy just put
- 8:16Speaker 2: his hands.
- 8:16Speaker 1: On and that was a question, not a statement. Are
- 8:19Speaker 1: you in the take so before? Yeah, sideways about.
- 8:23Speaker 2: That, but like one of the sacks, that's what one
- 8:25Speaker 2: of the one of the nine sacks of Old Miss.
- 8:27Speaker 2: The guy just put his hands on his hips and
- 8:28Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel just went down like.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Jackson or Jackson Nornal. Some Gabriel was still there. I
- 8:35Speaker 1: really am, because he broke records already. Uh and uh
- 8:39Speaker 1: and Jackson Arnold just went down.
- 8:41Speaker 2: The guy put his hands on his hips and Jackson
- 8:43Speaker 2: Nald just went and he didn't try to get away.
- 8:45Speaker 1: For paying this guy six figures, it's time to move on,
- 8:48Speaker 1: or seven figures it's time to move him.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Paying too damn much.
- 8:51Speaker 4: It's a waste of money.
- 8:52Speaker 1: The kids just he's just hey, listen, I know, listen,
- 8:56Speaker 1: the offensive line is bad. I understand that. But there's
- 8:59Speaker 1: multiple times you watch the replays, there is people running free. Well, right,
- 9:03Speaker 1: you have to do that.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Well right now there is there is a decent receiver
- 9:07Speaker 2: out there, and I don't know what's wrong with him.
- 9:09Speaker 3: He entered the transfer portal. He's out of Texas's cooks.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Could we could we possibly try to sway him to
- 9:17Speaker 2: come to Oklahoma?
- 9:17Speaker 1: Well, Oklahoma needs to do kind of follow the Mississippi
- 9:20Speaker 1: Patternsissippi wasn't that great last year. They spent a butt
- 9:22Speaker 1: ton of money, won a lot of portal battles, including
- 9:25Speaker 1: some against us, and you built that those two lines.
- 9:29Speaker 4: That's what they're lacking.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Now. Another thing they're lacking is a cover. Corner. Uh,
- 9:34Speaker 1: you know, Gentry has been out to corner.
- 9:35Speaker 3: We have one cover.
- 9:38Speaker 1: And and what you Washington, we appreciate your service. Well, no,
- 9:43Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's just move on.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Well what about moving and just moving them to safety?
- 9:47Speaker 1: Just moving to safety.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I think.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Last year it's well when you give too many plays
- 9:55Speaker 1: to send Burton at the end of the game.
- 9:57Speaker 2: And talked about you know Rome instead of going you
- 10:00Speaker 2: know you just you know the defense. They say, like
- 10:03Speaker 2: even on the offensive line, like Rome leaving early, he
- 10:05Speaker 2: could have stayed. You could have stayed instead of going
- 10:08Speaker 2: to the Carolina Panthers to.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Know the defense just just getting there.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Just they get so non aggressive in the second half
- 10:17Speaker 1: and they lose the games. I mean that last drive
- 10:19Speaker 1: was bad the Big place.
- 10:21Speaker 2: I honestly didn't get to watch any of it, you know,
- 10:23Speaker 2: I just got to see like parts.
- 10:25Speaker 1: But four fumbles for OU. Time of possession was down,
- 10:30Speaker 1: yet penalty yards were higher. Missouri we have they had
- 10:33Speaker 1: less plays. But the game we should have won five
- 10:37Speaker 1: and fifteen.
- 10:37Speaker 4: Again, it's just you put yourself in the position.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Should have been the game that got us to a ball.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Now we've got Alabama, we got a bye week, Alabama
- 10:44Speaker 2: and LSU coming up.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Cool, Well, man, we can get a five and seven
- 10:49Speaker 1: bowl and keep this stupid strike.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Hey, you know you want to talk about the SEC.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Who who's fucking Who's who's leading the SEC?
- 10:57Speaker 4: It's a lot of ties, it's right.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Now, know what, LSU just lost Alabama.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Georgia dropped to Ole Miss twenty eight ten, and I
- 11:10Speaker 2: was I got to see a little bit of that game,
- 11:12Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, you're only done by twelve.
- 11:15Speaker 3: And Carson Beck, God, he seriously he needs.
- 11:20Speaker 2: To go in and get that kidney transplant because he
- 11:22Speaker 2: still looks sick.
- 11:23Speaker 1: How many interceptions did he have? I didn't.
- 11:26Speaker 4: I didn't. I actually I didn't watch.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Them die watch it, but hey, good news, ladies and gentlemen.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Miamy lost at Georgia Tech. Well and that was and
- 11:35Speaker 1: that was and that was counting.
- 11:37Speaker 2: We all talked about that they had been close to
- 11:39Speaker 2: losing five games go back.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, but there and that's that typical team.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So let's go back to the SEC. Staandings, Tennessee, A
- 11:48Speaker 1: and M Texas all have one loss.
- 11:50Speaker 2: All right, So Tennessee moved ahead of A and M
- 11:52Speaker 2: after their loss.
- 11:54Speaker 1: But either way, I mean it's still they're just.
- 11:57Speaker 3: But those are the top two. Well, right now, the champion.
- 12:00Speaker 4: Texas will play Texas A and M.
- 12:02Speaker 3: Right, and that's it.
- 12:02Speaker 1: That's that's their final game of the season.
- 12:04Speaker 2: So Tennessee, right, and currently it's it's Missouri, l s.
- 12:10Speaker 1: U, Alabama, Old miss Georgia. They all have two losses
- 12:13Speaker 1: still and Missouri.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Is the worst out of those. Out of that bunch
- 12:18Speaker 2: for two losses, they're the worst out.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Of the one of the softest schedules. You look at
- 12:21Speaker 1: soft schedules, you look at Texas, Missouri, No, Texas and
- 12:26Speaker 1: Missouri had the softest schedules I know out of all those.
- 12:33Speaker 2: So so yeah, we Oklahoma's now what what does that say?
- 12:37Speaker 1: One and five?
- 12:39Speaker 2: Along with Auburn has one and five, A Kentucky team
- 12:44Speaker 2: that's won in six and and old Mississippi State team.
- 12:47Speaker 3: That's so.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Georgia, what what do we have?
- 12:57Speaker 4: What is left? As far as let's look at Georgia.
- 13:00Speaker 4: Sean to pull up Alabama schedule.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I know Alabama has OU and then they finish with Auburn.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I can you tell you that right now? George got
- 13:08Speaker 2: a bye? Will I believe?
- 13:10Speaker 1: Oh?
- 13:10Speaker 4: Is this game day? Where's game day?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Yeah, Georgia pull up, Well, it might be that's this weekend.
- 13:21Speaker 2: So yeah, Alabama. Oh no, Alabama's got mercer. I'm sorry,
- 13:25Speaker 2: Alabama's got mercer, which doesn't matter. But uh then it's
- 13:30Speaker 2: all I literally it's Oklahoma Auburn. That's that's their final
- 13:34Speaker 2: two games. The mercer game doesn't count.
- 13:37Speaker 1: It go second night game ABC six on the twenty
- 13:41Speaker 1: third for Alabama. Oh you at ou? Shocking that we
- 13:45Speaker 1: didn't get it?
- 13:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, you know what, we do have a
- 13:50Speaker 2: winning record against Alabama, who knows its stupid as ship
- 13:53Speaker 2: stupid stupid things have happened in this season like weird,
- 13:58Speaker 2: weird things have happened in this season already.
- 14:00Speaker 1: There's not a weird positive thing that happened for OU
- 14:03Speaker 1: except that Auburn game at the end lost.
- 14:06Speaker 3: I need faith.
- 14:07Speaker 1: I need you to have faith to we gotta have
- 14:10Speaker 1: feet the feet, feet, I got the feet.
- 14:13Speaker 4: There's no faith in.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Can you just believe speaking can get beat? And what
- 14:19Speaker 1: was k Let's go back to you A lot of
- 14:21Speaker 1: the drama with firing Venables a couple of things that that,
- 14:25Speaker 1: I mean, what's your thoughts on that?
- 14:27Speaker 2: If they give him another year, he does need to
- 14:30Speaker 2: bring in a high powered.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Coordinator.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Game day isn't appens this week for Tennessee.
- 14:37Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, the firing.
- 14:40Speaker 3: Inventibles is.
- 14:45Speaker 2: I guess it might be dependent on if we make
- 14:46Speaker 2: a bowl, which I don't think we are.
- 14:49Speaker 1: We are.
- 14:49Speaker 4: I think he gets two years. Actually, but here's the
- 14:51Speaker 4: one I don't know.
- 14:52Speaker 5: No, he does not get to you. He'll get twoyears
- 14:55Speaker 5: depending on the improvement of next My schedule is harder
- 14:59Speaker 5: next year. It's the same schedule we have this year,
- 15:00Speaker 5: plus Michigan so far in non conference. And I'm not
- 15:03Speaker 5: saying Michigan's some badass.
- 15:07Speaker 3: And we're playing an X you guy who's a coach there? Uh,
- 15:10Speaker 3: now are we? Are we doing that?
- 15:12Speaker 2: Because that is the the agreement that SEC signed with
- 15:16Speaker 2: a Big ten to play No.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I think that was a non conference we had set
- 15:20Speaker 1: up before with I know, but I SEC had done.
- 15:25Speaker 3: The SEC has signed, So the SEC I know has signed.
- 15:28Speaker 1: An agreement nothing to do with that to play Big
- 15:30Speaker 1: tim nothing to do non conference, certain games, certain teams.
- 15:33Speaker 3: So this was set up previous team.
- 15:35Speaker 1: It was a previous setup, but when we were still
- 15:38Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. But my problem is, and it's
- 15:40Speaker 1: not that he's going to get fired, nor should he
- 15:42Speaker 1: needs to bring an offensive coordinator. He needs to get
- 15:43Speaker 1: a portal he needs to get he needs to get
- 15:46Speaker 1: a portal quarterback. He needs someone that's coming in as
- 15:48Speaker 1: a starter immediately to get portal offensive line as well.
- 15:54Speaker 1: That's and that's the third thing is that and then
- 15:57Speaker 1: we need some help and in the secondary. Now, I
- 15:59Speaker 1: think the wide receivers are fine if they can ever
- 16:01Speaker 1: come back healthier AND's going well, I don't know.
- 16:04Speaker 4: I mean, we'll see.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Who leaves against the injury.
- 16:06Speaker 4: There's a lot of Yeah, there's a lot.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Of unless against the injury. But you're gonna see, you're
- 16:10Speaker 1: gonna see a lot about this program about who leaves
- 16:13Speaker 1: and who stays. It's more of a big indication of
- 16:16Speaker 1: what you see. Some of these stars start to flip out,
- 16:19Speaker 1: then then it's not any good. I mean, the first
- 16:21Speaker 1: two years of Anables or even the portal leaves were
- 16:24Speaker 1: fine because they were going to smaller.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Well, I think having a guy like Danny Stutsman around
- 16:30Speaker 2: was was really good because he kept a lot of
- 16:32Speaker 2: that defense together.
- 16:33Speaker 3: He said, hey, we're in this for the long.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Yeah, but that secondary still to me, it is just
- 16:37Speaker 1: not they give they give up too big a plays.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And I will say that we do need to be
- 16:42Speaker 1: kill Gundy back. I'm a very staunch killing came back.
- 16:47Speaker 1: I don't care, but he needs to come back now.
- 16:48Speaker 4: If you want to fire John, that's fine.
- 16:52Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that too.
- 16:53Speaker 2: But like I said, I I'm a stunch believer that
- 16:58Speaker 2: that killed. We had really good We had really good
- 17:02Speaker 2: running backs and wide receivers.
- 17:04Speaker 1: We need with de Marco there.
- 17:06Speaker 3: I love DeMarco.
- 17:07Speaker 4: DeMarco, He's gonna stay.
- 17:09Speaker 1: But Cale can look at DeMarco and be like, hold on, no,
- 17:13Speaker 1: you do no, you need it. You need an offensive
- 17:15Speaker 1: quarter that knows how to coach a quarterback period. That's period,
- 17:18Speaker 1: that's exactly well. You need a quarterback developer now, not
- 17:21Speaker 1: even a coach. But so I have mentioned before, or
- 17:26Speaker 1: maybe this would be the first time. I know I've
- 17:27Speaker 1: talked amongst Kevin Wilson and I know, oh did I Okay,
- 17:36Speaker 1: So a few things about that. I know he's old
- 17:38Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't like old when it
- 17:40Speaker 1: comes to recruiting, and a couple of years at Tulsa.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I think he could.
- 17:45Speaker 1: But I think if you think I mean the thing
- 17:48Speaker 1: about him, he was such a good play caller and
- 17:50Speaker 1: a developer That's what I loved about him. And he
- 17:53Speaker 1: came from that backbone of an offense that was that
- 17:57Speaker 1: was go Northwestern connection. That's why came over with Stoops.
- 18:01Speaker 1: He did it, even did it at Ohio State, even
- 18:04Speaker 1: though they were more of a hey let's run more
- 18:07Speaker 1: run than him. But and I don't know, and I
- 18:10Speaker 1: think Age. I mean, I like Marion. I think he
- 18:13Speaker 1: should be the higher the Tulane coach not so much.
- 18:16Speaker 1: He's okay, I sent it to you, but he didn't
- 18:17Speaker 1: have a good record at Arkansas with Chad Morris, I know.
- 18:21Speaker 1: But everybody's up in arms about that. I want someone
- 18:25Speaker 1: that seeks but look at somebody, but just at Tulane
- 18:28Speaker 1: and Troy. I want someone that can succeed what.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Troy is doing without him there.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Well, I want someone that can succeed and do something
- 18:37Speaker 1: that had been in a Power one, the Power five.
- 18:40Speaker 1: You know that that conference, not Troy.
- 18:45Speaker 4: I just don't get Troy.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Troy's Troy is definitely.
- 18:48Speaker 1: That first year. He was horrible at Arkansas. He was
- 18:52Speaker 1: horrible at Argus, I know, but look.
- 18:53Speaker 3: At the head coach that was there and the players that.
- 18:56Speaker 1: He was an offensive guy too, And you know that
- 18:58Speaker 1: guy might not have been called that. We talk about
- 19:01Speaker 1: the hand. Yeah, what are we talking about? You're doing
- 19:07Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to predict to Kevin Wilson higher.
- 19:09Speaker 4: I'm just saying, no, no, no, I'm just hold on.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I'm just saying the percentage is ticking up a little bit.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Rumor wise for wis Well that Tulsa's got a new
- 19:22Speaker 1: A Day. There was some rumors that he mentioned.
- 19:28Speaker 2: Now there was also has a new ID and all
- 19:30Speaker 2: of a sudden, they want to keep a fucking coach.
- 19:33Speaker 1: No, every we had, uh No, Kevin Wilson's had some
- 19:38Speaker 1: bad losses.
- 19:39Speaker 4: I mean it was a great win, but but U
- 19:41Speaker 4: A B was bad.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Arkansas State was a bad. Losing to Butcher Jones is bad.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what I'm saying. You get a new
- 19:47Speaker 1: A D. He's a t CU guy. He wants to
- 19:49Speaker 1: hire his own person.
- 19:51Speaker 2: I get that, I get that, But but are you
- 19:53Speaker 2: gonna end up with Tulsa who wants to finally keep
- 19:56Speaker 2: a coach? Because remember Tulsa is like a coach development
- 20:00Speaker 2: even in basketball, they were there there.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Coaches at times, yes.
- 20:04Speaker 2: So so so, Todd Graham was there and you know
- 20:07Speaker 2: Todd Graham moved on, Malson was there.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Maleson moved on.
- 20:12Speaker 2: If Tulsa, If Tulsa doesn't move up in a conference,
- 20:16Speaker 2: does does that mean that you know those coaches are
- 20:18Speaker 2: just gonna be there for a minute and then leave.
- 20:20Speaker 1: I'm more worried. I'm more thinking about the money when
- 20:22Speaker 1: I talk about Kevin Wilson's like, Hey.
- 20:23Speaker 2: I'm thinking you want to talk about Tulsa. I'm thinking
- 20:26Speaker 2: about the coaches that want to stay. That's why we
- 20:28Speaker 2: had Blankenship, who was a local guy.
- 20:29Speaker 1: That's what we had when they fired him because he
- 20:32Speaker 1: didn't perform well, no, I got that he was fired.
- 20:34Speaker 1: He did okay, but he did okay.
- 20:37Speaker 3: Uh and what's his name?
- 20:39Speaker 2: The blonde guy before that, Uh, you're talking about he
- 20:44Speaker 2: was a coach forever, not Butch Davis.
- 20:46Speaker 1: But yeah, Butch Davis, because remember but Davis was there.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Not but you're thinking of Keith Burns and then he
- 20:53Speaker 1: had cracked the who sadly passed away.
- 20:58Speaker 3: I think we wanted to raider.
- 20:59Speaker 4: Raider was the nineties.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.
- 21:02Speaker 2: And r I p Fernando Valensway that we forgot to
- 21:04Speaker 2: say that at the beginning of the episode.
- 21:05Speaker 1: State state senator.
- 21:07Speaker 4: Uh yeah, got re elected.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Good for you.
- 21:13Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, we we we've had
- 21:16Speaker 2: really good coaches that were there, and that's why Tulsa
- 21:19Speaker 2: has one of the highest you know, winning those coaches
- 21:26Speaker 2: end up leaving, unless it's a local, unless it's a
- 21:28Speaker 2: local Tulsa guy, those coaches end up really leaving total.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And that's how it goes. And and if you're you're
- 21:38Speaker 1: you're you know, some schools are just feeder programs and
- 21:40Speaker 1: they are for coaches. You're losing coaches though, that's a
- 21:43Speaker 1: good thing. That means you're winning. But we haven't lost
- 21:47Speaker 1: a lot of coaches lately to anybody, because they haven't
- 21:49Speaker 1: been any.
- 21:49Speaker 4: Good meaning good who talk about Tulsa.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no not.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Todd Graham was the last one.
- 21:56Speaker 1: That we had. Yeah that left. Yeah, well yeah, no, no,
- 22:01Speaker 1: Malson left was before him, after Todd Graham hired Gus Malson.
- 22:08Speaker 1: I promise Malsom was never Toss's head coach.
- 22:13Speaker 3: He was.
- 22:14Speaker 1: He wasn't, No, he wasn't. He was OC and went
- 22:17Speaker 1: to Arkansas State. Now it's Sean fact checks and he'll
- 22:23Speaker 1: be wrong.
- 22:29Speaker 4: Gus Malson was never tad coach.
- 22:32Speaker 3: I need to say that build up was stupid.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Don't ever do that.
- 22:36Speaker 4: You're just jelly because you're.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Wrong. Let's see, Oh, he was assistant head coach. Ship
- 22:46Speaker 1: he was o C. Dude, that's still head coach. No,
- 22:48Speaker 1: it's not.
- 22:49Speaker 4: No, I said the head coach.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Said, assistant head coach. You're now you're just making ship
- 22:55Speaker 1: up now. No, he was not a head coach. His
- 22:57Speaker 1: first heage coach, hedge head coaching job is Arkansas. It
- 23:02Speaker 1: was Arkansas State was his first head coaching.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Job him back in Auburn.
- 23:07Speaker 1: That's exactly yes.
- 23:09Speaker 2: But I thought that he I thought that he had
- 23:12Speaker 2: I thought that when Graham was fired.
- 23:14Speaker 1: That he was a head Graham never got fired. Graham
- 23:16Speaker 1: left for Pitt and then went to Arizona State.
- 23:20Speaker 2: I was closed. I mean, he was assistant head coach.
- 23:24Speaker 2: It's more of a head coach than you've ever been.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Just it way more of a head.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Coach than just it's probably an associate head coach that states,
- 23:32Speaker 1: we're not an assistant head coach, kind of an offensive linebacker.
- 23:35Speaker 3: A head coach, senior coach, a manager. I don't know
- 23:39Speaker 3: that's what.
- 23:39Speaker 1: That's just what it pull. He's an associate head coach.
- 23:42Speaker 1: It doesn't say associate, but that's what it was. You're
- 23:44Speaker 1: saying words that don't all right, Well, thank you for
- 23:50Speaker 1: giving us that, Gus Smellson. Do you want to talk
- 23:54Speaker 1: about the Big ten and what's going on with that?
- 23:57Speaker 2: Yeah, we can move to the Big So, like I said,
- 24:00Speaker 2: I I saw the I saw the projections for the
- 24:03Speaker 2: twelfth team playoff and they have Ohio State stuck in yet.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Currently Indiana and Oregon are both undefeated, and I do
- 24:14Speaker 2: believe that they have Oregon and Ohio State going to
- 24:17Speaker 2: the championship game. Now you have Penn State at who
- 24:23Speaker 2: is still for some reason above.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Indiana uh at one lass.
- 24:28Speaker 1: But do they deserve to be in there?
- 24:33Speaker 4: Well, I'm right now yes because Penn State.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Does Penn State deserve to be in there?
- 24:38Speaker 1: Yeah, right now because they're they're after Indiana right now.
- 24:41Speaker 4: To be honest, this will be what is it? Next week?
- 24:46Speaker 1: Is to tomorrow, to to tomorrow tomorrow? Even so playoff
- 24:54Speaker 1: picks are looking like, yeah, Penn State is going to
- 24:58Speaker 1: be about seven a right.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So and is ahead of them all right, So the
- 25:01Speaker 2: Nittany Lions can win out because they should win out.
- 25:04Speaker 2: I don't see why they would lose to Purdue, Minnesota
- 25:06Speaker 2: or Maryland.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Correct they have the easiest skit.
- 25:09Speaker 3: I will say it's possible Minnesota loss.
- 25:11Speaker 1: That would be the only one because it's at Minnesota.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Minnesota spake, I totally agree.
- 25:15Speaker 3: And Minnesota has been this weird team all season.
- 25:18Speaker 1: I'm looking for a Penn State Notre Dame weird matchup,
- 25:22Speaker 1: and it's going to be a boar fast No, actually,
- 25:24Speaker 1: I think I think. I think Penn State's bad and
- 25:27Speaker 1: and and hey, let's let's.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Not forget that Notre Dame.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I think still has to play USC. Don't matter, Notre
- 25:32Speaker 1: Dame is going to be in there.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Indiana's Indiana's remaining games. And this is the sad, this
- 25:38Speaker 2: is the set. We're getting close to the end of
- 25:41Speaker 2: college football, which maybe they need to extend the season.
- 25:44Speaker 3: So Indiana's gonna.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Buy Now, what has happened in the ten weeks of
- 25:48Speaker 1: our life? That's just flown right by. It's the quickest
- 25:52Speaker 1: you want to ever live life. Football season on road trips,
- 25:55Speaker 1: we've been here and then it's summertime is like for ever.
- 26:00Speaker 1: You can't get ten weeks out of that.
- 26:02Speaker 2: I didn't need to bring that up here in the
- 26:04Speaker 2: in a minute about what's going on. So, uh, Indiana's
- 26:07Speaker 2: got a bye week, and then they've got Ohio State
- 26:10Speaker 2: they have to go to the shoe.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Is it the shoe?
- 26:13Speaker 3: Is it a horseshoe?
- 26:15Speaker 1: Yes?
- 26:15Speaker 3: And then they've got Purdue to end.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, so they're game. They got a bye week
- 26:21Speaker 1: before I don't know why their game. So they got
- 26:25Speaker 1: a bye week before their game. So it's perfect. But
- 26:27Speaker 1: that is gonna be the game of the year. Game
- 26:29Speaker 1: day will be there, yes, absolutely, you know that. And
- 26:33Speaker 1: and and they're not gonna lose to Northwestern this year.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Oregon Oregon.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Oregan's Oregon's finishing star.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Obviously, we were not looking at Oregon to be.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Oregon's got Wisconsin bye week Washington.
- 26:46Speaker 1: It's really gonna come down to that Ohio State Indiana game.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Who's gonna play Oregon in the Big twelve champ or
- 26:52Speaker 1: in the Big Ten championship period.
- 26:55Speaker 2: But you do remember that Ohio State has Michigan. Oh
- 27:00Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it, right, I.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Know nobody is. But at the same time, no worry.
- 27:05Speaker 2: It's massive rivalry, rivalry rivalry crash, and it could.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Swing a Michigans a chance, not a chance that's going
- 27:16Speaker 1: to be in our picks. What well, yeah, I mean
- 27:19Speaker 1: against the spread, it might be tough because it's going
- 27:21Speaker 1: to be in the twenties, so you might have to
- 27:23Speaker 1: pick against that. But no, as far as the Big Ten,
- 27:27Speaker 1: you know, you look at, Penn State is exceeded what
- 27:31Speaker 1: they have.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Nebraska current metrics current metrics predictor is o highest state
- 27:35Speaker 2: in ninety three.
- 27:37Speaker 4: Fair enough, and that's why I said, when you put
- 27:39Speaker 4: them in the picks against.
- 27:39Speaker 1: The spread, you're gonna have we're gonna be twenty to
- 27:42Speaker 1: thirty five five. So but no, so.
- 27:48Speaker 4: It's really gonna come down to that.
- 27:50Speaker 1: The winner of that game is gonna play organ It
- 27:52Speaker 1: looks like it is. Penn State's going to be left
- 27:55Speaker 1: out now, left out of a Big Ten championship, but that
- 27:58Speaker 1: not that might not be a big deal, not that
- 28:01Speaker 1: they could get in. Yeah, there's gonna be three Big
- 28:06Speaker 1: Ten teams in there, which which before when the season began.
- 28:09Speaker 2: It was like, oh, maybe that's gonna be SEC heavy
- 28:13Speaker 2: with two Big ten teams, and now it's shifted.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Go back to the but the SEC is going to
- 28:20Speaker 1: be heavy. I'm afraid because I think they're going to
- 28:22Speaker 1: get four in and you're looking especially depends on you know,
- 28:26Speaker 1: Texas right now looks like they're in Alabama. They're going
- 28:29Speaker 1: to put in Georgia's and I'm pulling.
- 28:32Speaker 3: Up I'm pulling up the current playoff.
- 28:34Speaker 4: Fuck the current playoff predictor right now.
- 28:37Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you got right now, you've got
- 28:40Speaker 1: you know, Oregon, Texas, b y U S m U.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Obviously those Indian, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Miami,
- 28:46Speaker 1: Alabama forgot about forgot about Tennessee.
- 28:49Speaker 4: Obviously, that's another one that's for sure.
- 28:52Speaker 2: So according to the espen UH the current predictions, you
- 28:59Speaker 2: got Oregon, are you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State, Bama.
- 29:04Speaker 1: I think the way Penn State gets knocked out is
- 29:07Speaker 1: Indiana beats Ohio State. That slides Ohio State still into
- 29:12Speaker 1: the playoff because they beat Penn State, and Penn.
- 29:15Speaker 4: State's out right, you know that's how I.
- 29:18Speaker 1: I did see that.
- 29:19Speaker 2: But what about Indiana, Well, hold on, I saw that
- 29:22Speaker 2: Indiana got a better SMU.
- 29:23Speaker 3: In Texas, A and M were like the first two
- 29:25Speaker 3: out or something like that.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's because that's going to be conference. I mean,
- 29:28Speaker 1: that's going to be. If you lose, you're out. Miami's
- 29:31Speaker 1: still Here's a funny thing.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Here's for the Big twelve, By has given a fifty
- 29:38Speaker 2: nine percent chance and Colorado has only been given a
- 29:40Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven percent chance.
- 29:42Speaker 4: They have a little tougher schedule.
- 29:43Speaker 3: How is that? How is it even parking?
- 29:45Speaker 1: No?
- 29:45Speaker 4: I think I think they have a little.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Big What I'm saying is you've got you've got one
- 29:48Speaker 2: of those champions. One of these two are getting in
- 29:51Speaker 2: no no matter what.
- 29:52Speaker 4: But I'm saying they're giving them a percentage not right.
- 29:55Speaker 1: For the end of the year.
- 29:57Speaker 4: Colorado still has to play.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Utah Kansas at Kansas and Oklahoma State Kansas obviously beat
- 30:05Speaker 1: came nowhere. That's two losses that they wanted to be
- 30:10Speaker 1: a team again. So I think that that's that's why
- 30:13Speaker 1: that their playoff percentage is a little lower compared to B.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Y U schedule.
- 30:20Speaker 1: UH is looking hold on, sorry me pull that up
- 30:23Speaker 1: real quick. That is going to be finishing with UH
- 30:30Speaker 1: Kansas at home, Arizona State there and Houston.
- 30:34Speaker 3: You know that Houston team stuff.
- 30:36Speaker 1: And we talked about that market down slap a label
- 30:39Speaker 1: early in this podcast or these podcasts of sports. Allegedly,
- 30:43Speaker 1: we said Houston would be much better at the end
- 30:45Speaker 1: of the.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Predictors that we are can't win a parlay, but God
- 30:50Speaker 2: can we call some stupid dumb ass are.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Well, and we said Houston would be better just because really, Fritz,
- 30:55Speaker 1: I mean, he's that Gin generally goes that way. Update
- 30:59Speaker 1: on the NFL game right now and.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Three now tender three LA is driving at their.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Five minutes left till halftime?
- 31:08Speaker 3: Is that line forty thirty.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Thirty?
- 31:14Speaker 3: Oh they're they're thirty five? See forty thirty?
- 31:18Speaker 1: I was are anything else? Not for college? College is
- 31:24Speaker 1: pretty much bring up NFL real quick on our basketball line.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I do have I do have an update that I
- 31:31Speaker 2: need to tell you. For the Gray Cup? Where'd it go?
- 31:36Speaker 1: Oh? I just had it.
- 31:38Speaker 2: I believe it's a Saskatchewan versus Toronto. The Saskatchewan Argonauts
- 31:46Speaker 2: is the CFO for the Gray Cup?
- 31:47Speaker 1: Super big? I roll over here, Okay, here we go.
- 31:52Speaker 1: H I had it.
- 31:54Speaker 3: The fucking just went away like it was just pulled up.
- 32:01Speaker 4: Real quick as he looks at nonsense.
- 32:05Speaker 1: The uh. I don't know what happened to Cleveland. It
- 32:07Speaker 1: was like this catch the Cleveland Cavaliers still the lone
- 32:11Speaker 1: undefeated team.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Cavaliers the generational basketball team that Kenny comes saying that
- 32:17Speaker 2: that o'klub's city was.
- 32:19Speaker 3: And get what two losses now.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Two losses now? Chets out, they're beating the Clippers right
- 32:24Speaker 1: now currently it's a halftime sixty six fifty three in
- 32:28Speaker 1: the thunder. So and then Chet's hurt. He's look at
- 32:32Speaker 1: it looks like he's out eight to ten weeks. You
- 32:33Speaker 1: say he broke a hip, and he's now it's not broke,
- 32:36Speaker 1: but something in from five to fucking up in the hip.
- 32:40Speaker 1: It's something he took a hard fall. I always thought
- 32:42Speaker 1: it'd be a foot injury, which it was two years ago.
- 32:46Speaker 1: But he that was a big that was a going
- 32:48Speaker 1: forward and and that's how it goes. All right, moving on,
- 32:51Speaker 1: let's talk about the NFL. Do we really want to
- 32:54Speaker 1: talk about anything this week? I mean, besides the shit
- 32:58Speaker 1: that pissed me off? I mean, come on, Detroit, all right?
- 33:03Speaker 2: So I would say Kansas City is still the worst
- 33:06Speaker 2: undefeated team ever.
- 33:10Speaker 3: I canna lie about.
- 33:10Speaker 1: That off the record, on the record, allegedly just by
- 33:14Speaker 1: this there's some fucking rigory going on here.
- 33:18Speaker 4: You know, there is.
- 33:22Speaker 1: I mean, the Lions are three and a half point favorites,
- 33:28Speaker 1: go off those five picks and they win by three
- 33:32Speaker 1: And how.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Many Vegas bets?
- 33:34Speaker 1: Did that? Kill a bunch?
- 33:38Speaker 4: And it's like, what is going on?
- 33:41Speaker 1: And then the Chiefs win by block punt by the
- 33:43Speaker 1: deed by the Denver Broncos, who suck, but yet the
- 33:48Speaker 1: Chiefs block of punt. How many fucking block punts do
- 33:50Speaker 1: you have? I'm waiting for the Chiefs to be playing
- 33:52Speaker 1: I don't know, someone like the Steelers or some surprise
- 33:55Speaker 1: AFC team and they're gonna get two on side kicks
- 33:58Speaker 1: to win the game. And everyone's be like that seems normal, cool,
- 34:01Speaker 1: And the NFL's like that's normal, totally normal, you know.
- 34:05Speaker 4: And then when it gets to the.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Super Bowl, it's gotta be like we can't hands off,
- 34:09Speaker 1: you know, because the Chiefs have lost some Super Bowls
- 34:11Speaker 1: to Brady for one, so it's like hands off on
- 34:15Speaker 1: that one. You can't touch that, don't touch that. But
- 34:18Speaker 1: I mean there is I don't know, I just there
- 34:22Speaker 1: is some crazy ship with the NFL. I mean some
- 34:24Speaker 1: of these things you see games, you see games right now,
- 34:28Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta losing to the end. The update for
- 34:31Speaker 1: the Great Cup. It's the Toronto Argonauts versus the Wing Winnipeg.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Fuck I forgot when Winnipeg.
- 34:37Speaker 4: Was No, damn it, that was a joke. I know
- 34:43Speaker 4: that's a different team.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Blue, big blue Blue Bombers.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Bomber. Yeah, so then we, okay, can go back to
- 34:49Speaker 1: your wreck. No.
- 34:50Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just it's it's it's screwed up.
- 34:52Speaker 1: I'm just like everybody's not.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Everybody's known that something's wrong with the referees this season,
- 34:57Speaker 2: because it's good.
- 34:58Speaker 3: The referees are our non calls.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Versus the never guy on the time.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on every refereeing squad because
- 35:09Speaker 2: remember they put him together at the beginning of the season, right.
- 35:12Speaker 3: So every refereeing squad is calling ship differently from playing now.
- 35:16Speaker 2: I do know that I do know that there was
- 35:19Speaker 2: one call during the I think the Bengals game that
- 35:22Speaker 2: you were pissed off about, which I got there was
- 35:26Speaker 2: the past interference, but we need we need to know.
- 35:31Speaker 1: The past interference was when Houston was driving at the
- 35:34Speaker 1: end of the game, number two on his back, tackling
- 35:37Speaker 1: him before the ball gets there, and the ref just
- 35:38Speaker 1: looks away you were, but you.
- 35:40Speaker 2: Were you were talking, and you were talking about you
- 35:42Speaker 2: were talking about the we were Bengals Ravens, and the
- 35:49Speaker 2: tight end was pretty much tackled before the ball.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Got to it.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, I gave you that one.
- 35:54Speaker 3: But there was a non call on on Joe Burrow
- 36:03Speaker 3: getting hit in the face, which you said.
- 36:06Speaker 1: There's a picture that's three of the defenders have a
- 36:09Speaker 1: face masking or have a hand in their face mask.
- 36:12Speaker 3: Hold on, now, I watched that one. Now during that
- 36:15Speaker 3: because that was.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Backed him down, that should be hands of the face
- 36:18Speaker 1: or hands of the hand of it.
- 36:20Speaker 2: We need to have it to where it's an incidental
- 36:22Speaker 2: contact because he was being the defender was being pulled
- 36:27Speaker 2: down by the lineman and.
- 36:29Speaker 1: He just had his hand out. It was an incidental
- 36:35Speaker 1: contact to Joe Burrow's face. Okay, So then you look
- 36:38Speaker 1: at it. Then you look at the other offensive lineman
- 36:41Speaker 1: his hand. No, no, no, hold on hold on that.
- 36:45Speaker 1: I know that, hold on, hold on, hold on. The
- 36:47Speaker 1: best one I heard, though, was the same play was
- 36:51Speaker 1: a guy away from the ball got held and they
- 36:56Speaker 1: said that wouldn't have changed the play them at play.
- 37:01Speaker 4: How do you fucking not know he's being held. Maybe
- 37:05Speaker 4: the quarterback thought ship he's being held, he's.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Not in the position that he's supposed to be, so
- 37:11Speaker 1: I need to not throw it to the no. I
- 37:12Speaker 1: just I think that's horacious. Calls don't say you it's
- 37:18Speaker 1: holding on the opposite side of the ball, So it
- 37:20Speaker 1: didn't change the play.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Listen to me, Maybe that was the read that he
- 37:27Speaker 2: wanted that Burrow wanted, But because that guy was being
- 37:32Speaker 2: held and not in the position that he was supposed
- 37:35Speaker 2: to be, that's my point.
- 37:36Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say.
- 37:37Speaker 2: That's why he went to the tight end who was
- 37:40Speaker 2: being dragged down as he threw the I just don't.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Understand when I heard the scenario from Mike Pereira, I
- 37:48Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. I mean, he wakes like
- 37:51Speaker 1: they go to him and he's drinking, and I don't
- 37:53Speaker 1: know what he's doing. He'd like being the guy that's
- 37:57Speaker 1: watching all the game. I'm not saying that. I'm just
- 38:00Speaker 1: saying it's bad. He looks bad. I mean it's a
- 38:03Speaker 1: bad look and he's like, hell, I didn't I don't
- 38:06Speaker 1: even know what to call. It's like you, your title
- 38:09Speaker 1: says fucking rule specialist. I know, but but you gotta
- 38:12Speaker 1: look at there and goes, I don't know if Mike
- 38:14Speaker 1: Frrera is going, Mike, where's going?
- 38:16Speaker 2: Okay, you've got a non call over here that should
- 38:19Speaker 2: have been a call, and then you've got a call
- 38:22Speaker 2: over here that should have been a non call.
- 38:24Speaker 3: I've seen him do that also.
- 38:25Speaker 4: Yes, But my point is is when he comes on,
- 38:27Speaker 4: he's like, so what do you think?
- 38:28Speaker 1: Treygan's like, what do you think? Mike? And Mike's like,
- 38:31Speaker 1: I don't really know where to go with this one.
- 38:33Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm still surprised that where he is there,
- 38:37Speaker 1: I mean, why he sets that? He says that, I'm thinking,
- 38:42Speaker 1: you're the rule specialist. You're a specialist. Title is one
- 38:46Speaker 1: of the specials. He's the one, you know, test the tour.
- 38:51Speaker 1: And I saw one tweet it's funny, it's like you no.
- 38:53Speaker 1: One of the tweets I did see, and kudos to
- 38:55Speaker 1: whoever tweeted it out said the Italians do all the
- 38:58Speaker 1: rules specialists and that's the and that's the one. What
- 39:02Speaker 1: I tell you, what I tell you? He said, that's
- 39:04Speaker 1: the one has a bet on this under two and
- 39:09Speaker 1: am I exactly exactly? All right? So let's talk about
- 39:13Speaker 1: last week's games. You know who impressed Panthers a little bit?
- 39:19Speaker 1: You know, I mean no, no, but I think it's
- 39:24Speaker 1: a good and I thought Bryce Young. I watched most
- 39:25Speaker 1: of that game, the early morning game, and hold on,
- 39:28Speaker 1: let me finished talking. I think he did pretty he did. Okay,
- 39:31Speaker 1: do you do you think that that next year they'll
- 39:35Speaker 1: be better? They're talking about the Panthers. I don't know
- 39:39Speaker 1: what they're gonna do in the offseason. I mean, they
- 39:40Speaker 1: need a lot of help.
- 39:41Speaker 2: They're but that's I'm saying with these with these recent wins,
- 39:44Speaker 2: they've had two recent wins, do you think they'll do better?
- 39:47Speaker 1: They looked and proved and I thought Bryce Young played well.
- 39:49Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I thought Bryce, you played well.
- 39:51Speaker 1: We know that Tampa Bay is on a downs because
- 39:53Speaker 1: they have no wide receivers.
- 39:55Speaker 4: Yes, and you and losing close and losing close, but both.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Games, both games lost close. But you cannot keep throwing
- 40:02Speaker 2: the Kate Dowton as your only receiver.
- 40:05Speaker 1: Bulls should be fired anyway, Liam, like I've said before,
- 40:08Speaker 1: said it last week.
- 40:08Speaker 4: Liam Cone's gonna be the head coach next year. Bowl's
- 40:10Speaker 4: gonna be fired.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Also, I thought the Vikings did. Okay, Uh, Arnold Donald
- 40:18Speaker 1: was bullshit. Donald had a bad game for the Vikings.
- 40:23Speaker 1: So Donald had a regular game.
- 40:25Speaker 4: Yeah, three picks.
- 40:27Speaker 1: So so what you're saying, you said a bad game.
- 40:29Speaker 1: But what we are saying in the normal world is
- 40:32Speaker 1: so Sam Donald had a regular and I thought the Chargers,
- 40:36Speaker 1: you know, they're quietly looking tough in the AFC.
- 40:39Speaker 4: I know they're behind the Chiefs by two games.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Yeah, but the sneak they are.
- 40:45Speaker 1: And the Cardinals are much better.
- 40:46Speaker 4: Than I thought they would be. I don't think we picked.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Them very No, No, we had him under I think
- 40:51Speaker 1: we both picked him under six and a half. And
- 40:54Speaker 1: right now they are probably about six. They are six
- 40:57Speaker 1: right now, good for them.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Letting me go ahead now, right now, let me pick
- 41:02Speaker 3: this up.
- 41:02Speaker 2: So teams that uh possibly not making the playoffs in
- 41:08Speaker 2: the NFC that we had Dallas, both had Dallas in
- 41:15Speaker 2: the playoffs, Tampa not looking not with Atlanta the way
- 41:21Speaker 2: they're playing, and the rest of them.
- 41:22Speaker 4: Well I say that, but they lost the Saints.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Ok.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Hey, we just still have the Rams in Washington that
- 41:26Speaker 2: we can put our hopes on. Now, you want to
- 41:28Speaker 2: go to the a f C, Miami hold on, you
- 41:32Speaker 2: had Miami, Jets and Indy and Cincy.
- 41:38Speaker 4: That's four bads.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Jacksonville. I didn't have.
- 41:41Speaker 6: That was me.
- 41:42Speaker 1: That was me.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Hold on, you say I'm not that bad?
- 41:46Speaker 1: Oh?
- 41:47Speaker 3: Fuck you are?
- 41:48Speaker 1: You had Miami since Indian Jacksonville.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Okay, Jacksonville.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Socked right now, went against the guy that I didn't
- 42:00Speaker 1: was very good. Teams and teams is just.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Not are not the regressing Jacksonville has regressed.
- 42:08Speaker 1: I don't know how much we had Indy picked in
- 42:11Speaker 1: there because Trent Richardson's rookie season and and then my
- 42:17Speaker 1: Joe Blacko looks better than he does and could lead
- 42:19Speaker 1: him for.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Well.
- 42:21Speaker 1: And hey, listen, Jets, why did I pick the Jets?
- 42:25Speaker 1: Why did we picked? No? I did.
- 42:30Speaker 2: So our first our top three in the AFC, Kansas City, Houston,
- 42:34Speaker 2: Baltimore look good.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Ok look the.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Rest of it.
- 42:39Speaker 3: We're wrong.
- 42:40Speaker 1: I can still do have Miami, No Yami Okay, so
- 42:44Speaker 1: they can slide in still I think they can't. Do
- 42:48Speaker 1: we not have the bills?
- 42:48Speaker 4: Did we just leave the bills?
- 42:49Speaker 1: Did we just say the bills were just trash this year?
- 42:52Speaker 1: Why did we do that? I don't know? Why did
- 42:55Speaker 1: we do that I think No, I think, well, we
- 43:00Speaker 1: thought was that Miami was going to edge him out.
- 43:03Speaker 4: And that was the only that was gonna be the
- 43:06Speaker 4: only one out of the East come in. Yeah, I
- 43:08Speaker 4: can see that because.
- 43:09Speaker 2: We thought, you know, I had the Jets, because I
- 43:11Speaker 2: thought that that that Buffalo was was on a down
- 43:14Speaker 2: swing with no receivers, letting all the receivers go, no
- 43:17Speaker 2: run game.
- 43:17Speaker 3: Agreed.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Agreed. Uh, you know, like I said, you stuck Jacksonville
- 43:25Speaker 1: in there.
- 43:26Speaker 4: Well, because I didn't pick Indianapolis, did I?
- 43:30Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 43:30Speaker 4: He did, Okay, So I thought that was.
- 43:32Speaker 1: Wed we had we both, I had three from them,
- 43:34Speaker 1: and well, I was we had a better I was
- 43:36Speaker 1: down on Pittsburgh and obviously they're going to be in there.
- 43:41Speaker 1: I still get eight to nine. Uh from my son. Hey,
- 43:44Speaker 1: we picked Washington but they lost, Okay, but they're still
- 43:49Speaker 1: in Oh against Pittsburgh. Did we picked Washington? You don't
- 43:52Speaker 1: have that set up. I don't.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have that. That might be on there.
- 43:56Speaker 3: You have to go look at NFL spreads and.
- 43:58Speaker 1: You say, Josh Allen, I through two picks against the Colts.
- 44:01Speaker 1: So I opened this and then I'll see if I
- 44:05Speaker 1: can find.
- 44:06Speaker 4: That I'm still going Chiefs, and I'm still going Chiefs
- 44:09Speaker 4: in Houston.
- 44:11Speaker 1: And who did I pick in the a f C
- 44:14Speaker 1: or NFC. I went Chiefs in Houston obviously in the NFC,
- 44:19Speaker 1: no I did, That's what. And who in the NFC
- 44:24Speaker 1: did I pick? Who did we pick in the NFC
- 44:28Speaker 1: for playoffs? To win it to be the Super Bowl?
- 44:33Speaker 1: Allons Lions. I don't think was there a second one?
- 44:38Speaker 4: San Francisco, That's what it was, San Francisco.
- 44:41Speaker 2: So for Pittsburgh, they won the Giants game correct, by
- 44:50Speaker 2: week you had them losing one them winning.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Get to the.
- 44:58Speaker 4: That would be the last they played the Washington Commanders.
- 45:03Speaker 3: Right right, and so I had him winning, you had
- 45:05Speaker 3: him losing.
- 45:06Speaker 1: Oh damn it. So we're still in part we are
- 45:10Speaker 1: still I think it's the back half of the season.
- 45:12Speaker 4: Well Cleveland's not.
- 45:13Speaker 1: They're not gonna split with Cleveland.
- 45:15Speaker 4: Cleveland's hammers.
- 45:16Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think we did have split with Cleveland.
- 45:18Speaker 2: We had split with Baltimore.
- 45:20Speaker 1: Get my screen.
- 45:22Speaker 4: So moving on, as we moved back to that upcoming
- 45:26Speaker 4: games for the.
- 45:27Speaker 1: NFL, Bears had left tackle right tackle out.
- 45:32Speaker 3: So that's how they got me.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Yeah, eleven Week eleven already we've made eleven weeks. This,
- 45:39Speaker 1: like I said, eleven weeks, is flown by Commander's Eagles.
- 45:42Speaker 1: That's going to be the Thursday game, which is a
- 45:44Speaker 1: great finally a really good prime game. Commander, no more
- 45:49Speaker 1: European games otherwise, you know, I was looking at the schedule.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Packers at Bears. I just Ravens at Steelers. That's gonna
- 46:00Speaker 1: be a good one. That's gonna be an early game
- 46:02Speaker 1: on Sunday, if ever, ever ever.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Flys could keep his job if he beats the Packers
- 46:08Speaker 2: twice this season.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Bengals and Chargers Sunday night. Chargers Bengals always play great.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Chiefs Bills will be the afternoon who raw and then
- 46:19Speaker 1: the Monday not games Texans and Cowboys.
- 46:23Speaker 3: Houston should not screw that up.
- 46:28Speaker 1: I say, should not go through five interceptions and they
- 46:31Speaker 1: still do it. All right, So Basketball, you know you
- 46:37Speaker 1: did a little bit. There nothing else say about I
- 46:41Speaker 1: know that Cleveland the Boston Celtics have one, have one lost.
- 46:48Speaker 4: It's the same. I mean, it's the same.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Baltimore Boxton one last year.
- 46:54Speaker 3: They finally pulled that out, all.
- 46:56Speaker 1: Right, So we'll see for next Monday will be highlighting
- 47:01Speaker 1: will be during the Cowboys Texans game. We'll also be
- 47:04Speaker 1: talking about new standings, big games, not so much this week.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Next week looks way bigger for college and then obviously
- 47:13Speaker 1: if you get an NFL, it's going to get bigger
- 47:15Speaker 1: and bigger. Currently actually want the Clippers Clippers.
- 47:19Speaker 3: How are the Clippers falling so bad?
- 47:21Speaker 4: They're bad injury? We have their first round pick.
- 47:24Speaker 2: I know, but but but the Clippers Clippers trade get money.
- 47:29Speaker 2: But I know, but the Clippers have put so much
- 47:31Speaker 2: money into that team to to be that bad. Listen,
- 47:35Speaker 2: I forget what they're standing.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Aren't they like in any in.
- 47:38Speaker 4: Anything you build, you better have a good baby.
- 47:40Speaker 3: Aren't they bottom? We almost forgot?
- 47:44Speaker 1: Okay, Zion Williams update injured and Jake Sean text me.
- 47:53Speaker 4: He's like, I know you get hurt, and I was like, yeah.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Zion Williams is still not for some reason, considered the
- 48:02Speaker 2: biggest bust of all time.
- 48:04Speaker 1: He's not yet he is.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been injured every year, but one right, is it?
- 48:13Speaker 1: I don't know? One year? He did say that played
- 48:16Speaker 1: in seventy games. Yeah, he played the first time in
- 48:19Speaker 1: his five career last season. Last season was seventy games.
- 48:22Speaker 1: That's been his highest. Yeah.
- 48:24Speaker 4: Well, now we always joked he'd he just self have
- 48:26Speaker 4: the league, but well.
- 48:27Speaker 2: He thought he was, and then he had to start
- 48:29Speaker 2: paying for baby mama money and porn money, and well.
- 48:36Speaker 1: It was right there.
- 48:37Speaker 3: So so he had to start playing.
- 48:40Speaker 1: So he played for one season and was like, oh,
- 48:42Speaker 1: Miami's all right, we'll see you next week. Big you know,
- 48:46Speaker 1: you know by week for both state teams, you don't
- 48:49Speaker 1: even look at you want to know.
- 48:51Speaker 3: Who's uh, who's a disappointment this year in the NBA.
- 48:55Speaker 4: I mean it's early.
- 48:56Speaker 1: Well, Utah Jazz two and seven. Utah is a small market.
- 49:00Speaker 1: There wasn't gonna be any good would still the Bucks
- 49:03Speaker 1: the Bucks of the Bucks and seventy six sixers are
- 49:08Speaker 1: the six that's the big disappointment right now. East Carolina
- 49:13Speaker 1: on Thursday this week, Tulsa at Tulsa, big game. Get
- 49:17Speaker 1: out there and support. Yes it is I could go
- 49:22Speaker 1: to Thursday game days off anymore. All right, Well, thanks
- 49:26Speaker 1: for joining us for this one. We'll talk a lot
- 49:28Speaker 1: of ship next week.
- 49:30Speaker 4: Days off going to miss We'll preview.
- 49:35Speaker 1: A lot of big football. I'm sorry, we'll we'll we'll
- 49:38Speaker 1: post the preview. We'll post preview and then preview the playoffs,
- 49:41Speaker 1: the playoffs, because that's gonna get dicey, it's gonna get
- 49:44Speaker 1: closer and closer as we more tight as we get,
- 49:48Speaker 1: and we're not going to be able to we're gonna
- 49:51Speaker 1: know more.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Actually not this week, but next it's gonna be after
- 49:54Speaker 4: next week. So all right, thanks for joining us.
- 49:56Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.
- 49:59Speaker 3: NHL News talked about.
- 50:05Speaker 1: Okay, let's look at the NHL. We've lost.
- 50:09Speaker 2: Florida Panthers are still are still improving on their their
- 50:13Speaker 2: their season. Jersey Devil's leading at a ten to six surprising.
- 50:21Speaker 3: Where are your Avalanche?
- 50:23Speaker 1: Oh good, hey they kind of could you They got
- 50:28Speaker 1: to come back because they started, they did.
- 50:30Speaker 3: They did, they started.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Can you say that this Western Conference Central is the
- 50:36Speaker 2: craziest one right now?
- 50:38Speaker 3: With Winnipeg at Winnipeg at fourteen and one.
- 50:42Speaker 2: The Wild just lost to the Blackhawks, so they just
- 50:45Speaker 2: got their second loss last night in overtime.
- 50:48Speaker 1: Well, I think the Pacific is actually more I know,
- 50:52Speaker 1: not necessarily mediocrity, but you look at but you look
- 50:56Speaker 1: at the Western Central. The Western Central was.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Always Dallas, Colorado, Minnesota, Nashville, and Saint Louis mixed in there.
- 51:08Speaker 2: But all that's like even early in the season. That's
- 51:11Speaker 2: really changed. Yeah, Nashville being that bad. Oh yeah yeah,
- 51:18Speaker 2: Edmonton went to the Winter that went to the Stanley Cup.
- 51:22Speaker 4: There has been a bad program for quite some time.
- 51:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've but Edmonton, Edmonton's you know, they they
- 51:32Speaker 2: they went to the series and went to the Stanley
- 51:35Speaker 2: last year.
- 51:36Speaker 3: And and they're they're said about five hundred. I mean,
- 51:41Speaker 3: how how weird is that?
- 51:43Speaker 4: Sports allegedly will be attending a Dallas Stars.
- 51:45Speaker 2: Game in the next apparently we allegedly, yes, we will be.
- 51:51Speaker 2: I can't wait to make that trip to Dallas. And
- 51:53Speaker 2: then Thackerville.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Don't agree, Then we agreed we were going to go
- 52:01Speaker 3: to tager No, no, my.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Word, the Jets. That could be a loss. I got
- 52:07Speaker 1: to look at the dates. So see that's they give you.
- 52:09Speaker 1: They give you when you play for a little bit
- 52:12Speaker 1: and then they stop. Oh no, you stid to move
- 52:14Speaker 1: to the next month. They just don't show it. All right,
- 52:19Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. We love you.
- 52:23Speaker 1: We will see you next Monday, Monday. Monday Monday Big
- 52:28Speaker 1: Playoff preview. Well we'll give you the final twelve of
- 52:33Speaker 1: what we're going to predict. College basketball started, but that's
- 52:36Speaker 1: that's still early and it's.
- 52:39Speaker 3: Infancy.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Like I told you last week, he was doing women.
- 52:44Speaker 1: You women are going to be really good. Moved up
- 52:46Speaker 1: to number nine in the rankings this week yesterday.
- 52:49Speaker 3: Yes, yes, college volleyball.
- 52:53Speaker 1: I don't understand what he is also doing really well
- 52:56Speaker 1: there too, but they're.
- 52:57Speaker 3: Not they're not in the playoffs. Have you not seen that?
- 53:01Speaker 4: I don't know how that works.
- 53:02Speaker 3: I did, I did that. I know we are trying
- 53:05Speaker 3: to we're trying to expand to more women's sports.
- 53:09Speaker 2: And like I said, the women's volleyball, I know that
- 53:12Speaker 2: we've been beating teams, but we are like eight and five,
- 53:14Speaker 2: I think is what it is. I looked at it
- 53:16Speaker 2: the other day. We're eight and five. Uh, we are
- 53:19Speaker 2: not projected to be in the tournament. I did see
- 53:23Speaker 2: the college field hockey.
- 53:26Speaker 3: Oh you doesn't do that. I think that's all Northeast.
- 53:29Speaker 4: What actually would you look at actually's hockey team?
- 53:32Speaker 1: I got a tweet on.
- 53:33Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're innermural. They're inner mural. They don't play
- 53:39Speaker 3: in in in the college hockey, we're inner mural.
- 53:43Speaker 1: So we see inner murals. Man, so that means is
- 53:51Speaker 1: that would have been Colorado's coach. She kind of had
- 53:55Speaker 1: that pug nose. And he went to Boise later. What
- 53:58Speaker 1: was his name? Isn't it? Man?
- 54:02Speaker 4: Keep talking about.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Uh so O U O s U.
- 54:06Speaker 2: They play like Alabama and all that. It's it's it's
- 54:08Speaker 2: inner mural. It's it's not sanctioned. The money that they
- 54:13Speaker 2: get they get from donations and and and all that.
- 54:18Speaker 2: But we do know that in in the spring that
- 54:21Speaker 2: OU and O s U generally play in Tulsa not
- 54:24Speaker 2: to be okay, So we do need to try to
- 54:27Speaker 2: catch that game this season.
- 54:29Speaker 4: Yes, that and Jeff has actually he's caught that.
- 54:32Speaker 6: Yes, yes, a bitch it was Dan Hawkins is who
- 54:39Speaker 6: it was. And he made he said, if coaches.
- 54:45Speaker 1: That's a month that probably more vacation your reporters gate.
- 54:48Speaker 1: We're a little bombed out that we don't get three weeks.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Go play in our murals. Brother, Go play in murals,
- 54:52Speaker 1: playing murals, brother, his brother. Not man's a T shirt,
- 54:56Speaker 1: that's a T shirt. Go playing the Murals. Brother. Thank
- 55:00Speaker 1: y'all right, we'll see you next week, all right, but
- 55:02Speaker 1: everybody bye, Have we