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DOLLY PARTON Our National Treasure 1946 - 2026 Special Edition (Part 2) Carl Dean and more fun · BOB DOLE : 1995 Clinton's Comeback

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SPEAKER_10: I love all the style too, because I know I tell you a funny story about the In N Out burger.
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SPEAKER_10: My husband's kind of bashful.
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SPEAKER_11: And I I know they ha I like what they call animal style.
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SPEAKER_11: You as local folk know what I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_11: But they don't have that on the menu.
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SPEAKER_11: It does not say that.
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SPEAKER_11: But when you go through it.
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SPEAKER_11: So I was telling my husband when he was out there to animal.
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SPEAKER_10: And uh he didn't want to order it.
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SPEAKER_10: I said, just order it uh animal style.
0:49
SPEAKER_10: And he said, I am not saying that.
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SPEAKER_10: Trust me, it's okay.
0:53
SPEAKER_10: So he did it, and then he got mad at me and then later on I said, Well, I wanted to go down the pink hot dog.
1:01
SPEAKER_10: He said, I'm not going down there.
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SPEAKER_10: You'll be having me order it, dog.
1:07
SPEAKER_10: Oh my god.
1:09
SPEAKER_10: I know it's kind of risky, but you are in LA and it was just it was funny not to hair.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever thought about doing a reality show or something like that?
1:16
SPEAKER_10: Oh hell no, I don't want no reality.
1:19
SPEAKER_10: I couldn't let people that close into my life.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: And this is part two that I look back at Dolly Parton, our national treasure.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I thought we would spend a little bit of time letting listening to her talk about her her long marriage to Carl Dean.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: And then spend a little bit of time with a lot of the fun things that we all remember about Dolly Parton.
2:11
SPEAKER_10: We were lucky.
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SPEAKER_10: The way we met was just it was too ironic.
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SPEAKER_10: It's not like him to pull over and start talking to a girl.
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SPEAKER_10: And now that the older we are, the more we s realize just how it was just meant to be.
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SPEAKER_10: I really believe that that was one of God's greatest gifts to give me Carl Dean because he's so accepting, understanding, he's always allowed me my freedom, and he's not jealous.
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SPEAKER_10: He knows I'm always coming home, I know I'm always going home.
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SPEAKER_10: We're just really very compatible.
2:38
SPEAKER_07: Wait, did you hear how Dolly Parton just defined compatibility?
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SPEAKER_07: After almost 60 years of marriage, I think we should listen.
2:45
SPEAKER_07: Because she didn't say we like all the same things.
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SPEAKER_07: What she said was, he's accepting, he's understanding, he gives me freedom, he's not jealous, and he knows I'm coming home.
2:55
SPEAKER_07: Dolly and Carl were actually incredibly different.
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SPEAKER_07: She wanted the stage.
2:59
SPEAKER_07: He wanted absolutely nothing to do with it.
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SPEAKER_07: She became one of the most recognizable women in the world while he remained fiercely private.
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SPEAKER_07: I've never even seen a picture of the man.
3:08
SPEAKER_07: But here's the part I love.
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SPEAKER_07: Carl did not need Dolly to become smaller so he could feel more secure in their marriage.
3:13
SPEAKER_07: And Dolly didn't need Carl to become more like her, to feel loved and supported by him.
3:18
SPEAKER_07: They built enough security into their marriage that they could both be fully themselves.
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SPEAKER_07: And when Dolly says he knows I'm always coming home, I know I'm always going home.
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SPEAKER_07: Ooh, that gives me chills.
3:27
SPEAKER_07: That's the definition of secure love.
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SPEAKER_07: Not you can't leave.
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SPEAKER_07: Not you need to change, so I'll feel okay.
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SPEAKER_07: Let's go be you.
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SPEAKER_07: I trust you.
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SPEAKER_07: And we both know where home is.
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SPEAKER_07: Maybe compatibility isn't about finding someone who's just like you.
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SPEAKER_07: Maybe it's finding someone you can be completely yourself with.
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SPEAKER_07: And you keep choosing each other.
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SPEAKER_07: After 60 years together, Dolly still called Carl Dean one of God's greatest gifts to her.
3:51
SPEAKER_07: That's one heck of a love story, and one I'm certain Hollywood screenwriters couldn't write on their own.
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SPEAKER_00: I have to say, if somebody asks you who the luckiest man on earth was, you have to say your answer has to be, other than Carl Dean, because it's not a contest here.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: I always have said, you know, I get kicked on all the time at being a lifelong bachelor, and I always tell people, I said, I've been looking for a girl like Dolly Parton all my life.
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SPEAKER_00: And Carl Dean, he managed to grab the only one.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Because there's no one like Dolly Parton.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh, and he got very, very, very lucky.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: And they had a very unusual marriage because, like the lady said in that audio, uh I've only seen like two pictures of Carl Dean ever.
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SPEAKER_00: And of course Dolly Parton's the most recognizable person in the world.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: But sometimes I wondered whether the real deal on the on the wigs and the makeup and all the crazy uh outfits was like she talked about.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: They go around they were going around Tennessee and they're RV and she could take all that off, and nobody'd have any idea who she was.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there may have been a method to the madness there.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh but they had a very happy relationship, and she always joked.
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SPEAKER_00: She was always gone, and I've always said, you know, I I need to buy the townhouse next to me, so if I ever got married, she could go home.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: Because the only problem when you marry somebody is they don't go home, they just stay there all the time.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm joking, of course.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: But um I really I always adore Dolly Parton.
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SPEAKER_00: And I always thought it was an extraordinary marriage in in Nashville or in Hollywood, or you know, in politics, it doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh there's a whole been a whole era of uh multiple marriages for people who are successful in that era, and here's a couple that were together 60 years.
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SPEAKER_00: That's that's quite an accomplishment.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: And you can tell it's probably because they sound like they just had a lot of fun when they were together.
5:46
SPEAKER_10: Have you known Jennifer Anderson for a while?
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SPEAKER_10: You know, I love her to death.
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SPEAKER_10: My husband is crazy about her.
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SPEAKER_10: Yes.
5:54
SPEAKER_10: And he was more excited that I was gonna do a movie uh with her than he wasn't that I got the chance to write all this music.
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SPEAKER_10: I think he kind of fantasizes like a threesome.
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SPEAKER_10: I got to Nashville.
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SPEAKER_10: I met Carl Dean.
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SPEAKER_10: And sixty years later I'm still with Carl Dean.
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SPEAKER_10: Like that's the one that took yeah, we've been together sixty years.
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SPEAKER_10: We've been married 58, going on uh six decades.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, well, well, it took.
7:02
SPEAKER_10: But anyway, he's a good guy, and you know, he's quiet and I'm loud, and uh we just we're funny.
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SPEAKER_10: Oh, he's hilarious.
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SPEAKER_10: And I think one of the things that's made it last so long through the years that we love each other, we respect each other, but we have a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
7:17
SPEAKER_10: Anytime things get too uh too much tension going on, yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: We either one of us can like find the a joke about it to where it breaks the tension and where it's not, we don't let it go, you know, so far.
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SPEAKER_10: We never fought back and forth.
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SPEAKER_10: And I'm glad now.
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SPEAKER_10: That's amazing.
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SPEAKER_10: We never did, because once you start that, that becomes a lifetime thing.
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SPEAKER_10: I've seen it with so many people.
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SPEAKER_10: And I thought I can never start that.
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SPEAKER_10: I can't I couldn't bear to you know think that he'd say something I couldn't take, you know.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: It would hurt, you know, because I'm a very sensitive person toward other people and myself.
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SPEAKER_10: I mean, you don't, you know, you may hurt people's feelings not knowing it, but knowingly you don't do it.
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SPEAKER_10: My husband did not want to be out there.
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SPEAKER_10: He never did an interview in his life.
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SPEAKER_10: In fact, he'd be out more in the yard on the tractor, and the fans would come by to see our house and they'd say, uh, you know, they'd say different things.
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SPEAKER_10: So, are you Dolly Parton's husband?
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SPEAKER_10: He'd say, Do I look like I'd be Dolly Parton's husband?
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SPEAKER_10: You know, he'd have on his old straw hat and his coat, you know, and his his old work clothes and all.
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SPEAKER_10: I didn't ever expose him to that.
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SPEAKER_10: I told I tell the story that when I was early on when I first got here, I won the Song of the Year and I won a BMI award in 1966.
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SPEAKER_10: That's the year that we got married.
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SPEAKER_10: And he rented a tuxedo, didn't want to do it.
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SPEAKER_10: I begged him to go.
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SPEAKER_10: And then when we were leaving that, he started taking that off, taking off all the jacket.
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SPEAKER_10: He said, Now I want you to do great, but don't you ever ask me to go to another one of these damn things because I ain't going.
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SPEAKER_10: And he never did.
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SPEAKER_10: And I knew right then that I'm just gonna keep him private as best I can.
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SPEAKER_10: Never ask him to do nothing, and certainly he's not gonna volunteer.
9:04
SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: But he was very proud of me, of course.
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SPEAKER_10: But he was uh, you know, we we got along great because we didn't have nothing to fight over like that.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Carl does not exist, does he?
9:17
SPEAKER_10: That's what a lot of people think.
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SPEAKER_10: He might he might as well not, you know, in some people's minds.
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SPEAKER_10: But it's the reason people tell so much about me is because they don't see Carl, because he will not get in front of a camera.
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SPEAKER_10: He hates Carl.
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SPEAKER_10: Carl Dean is my husband.
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SPEAKER_10: I've been married to him since 1966.
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SPEAKER_10: He went to Hawaii one time, first and only time he's ever been on an airplane.
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SPEAKER_10: Is that right?
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SPEAKER_10: Yes.
9:39
SPEAKER_08: Has he ever seen you in concert?
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SPEAKER_10: He yes, he has.
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SPEAKER_10: But it was years before he would, because he was afraid if I messed up he wouldn't know what to do.
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SPEAKER_10: And so one year he he did come, and then after that he's he's he'll come in and out, but he won't go if people know he's there.
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SPEAKER_13: And is it true that he goes to see your movies on his own and then comes back and critiques them?
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SPEAKER_10: Same thing.
9:58
SPEAKER_10: Well, he don't critique them.
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SPEAKER_10: He'll just say, I want to see so-and-so, and that's pretty good.
10:02
SPEAKER_10: Or, you know, he don't really he just goes to see them.
10:06
SPEAKER_10: But it's the same with Dollywood, uh, my theme park up in East Tennessee.
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SPEAKER_10: He won't go if anybody knows he's coming.
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SPEAKER_10: He he gets a pass, of course, every year.
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SPEAKER_10: If he just gets a gold pass.
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SPEAKER_10: But he goes and he just waits in line and he buys a ticket and he goes in.
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SPEAKER_10: And people don't even know every once in a great while somebody on the park will see him.
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SPEAKER_10: But he tries to make it to where nobody knows because he just likes to look around, see what's going on.
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SPEAKER_10: But anyway, he does exist and he's a fine man.
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SPEAKER_10: He's my best bud, and we've been at it a long time.
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SPEAKER_10: No, and it's not true, there's always in the tabloids.
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SPEAKER_10: We saw something about where our 450 million dollar divorce, there was something in the tabloids, and he said, Hell, I would leave you if I thought I was gonna get that kind of money.
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SPEAKER_00: All joking aside, we should all be so lucky to find someone who is as willing uh to let us be ourselves and be and be free of uh and and to do and excel um as Carl Dean was towards Dolly Carton and she was towards him.
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SPEAKER_00: Um let that be a lesson to you of what you know being secure and and with who you're with, what it looks like, because they certainly seem to have been a very happy couple.
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SPEAKER_08: You've been a remarkably uh successful businesswoman.
11:26
SPEAKER_08: How has that happened?
11:28
SPEAKER_10: Well, my dad was like that.
11:31
SPEAKER_10: My dad raised twelve children.
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SPEAKER_10: My daddy could not read nor write, never had a chance to go to school, but my daddy was so smart.
11:39
SPEAKER_10: You know, he was just I've just always wondered what all my daddy might have been able to do had he had an education.
11:45
SPEAKER_10: But I my daddy, I watched him maneuver.
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SPEAKER_10: I watched how he would he could trade and barter, and you know, it's like he would, well, they call it good horse sense or horse trading.
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SPEAKER_10: They call it street smarts if you're from the city, but good old country horse sense.
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SPEAKER_10: My daddy was so smart, and I just watched him through the years.
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SPEAKER_10: And my daddy was also one of those people that was really willing to work.
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SPEAKER_10: He was up all the time, up early, having to farm before he went to work on construction or doing whatever he had to do to keep food on the table.
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SPEAKER_10: But he always just managed to make some of the best deals and some of the best choices.
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SPEAKER_10: And I I was very influenced by that.
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SPEAKER_10: Now I got my music from my mother's side of the family, and most musical people, musicians, don't want to work at anything else.
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SPEAKER_10: So I got my work ethic from my dad, I got my music from my mama, and I tried in the early days when when uh when I would think about it, and I started seeing that I could make money at this, I thought, well, they do call this the music business.
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SPEAKER_10: So why don't I kind of lay a little heavy on the business side of things?
12:53
SPEAKER_10: So I got to thinking, you know, uh what I should do to make it really profitable, not just to sing and just let the money roll in or let it be gone before you think about it.
13:05
SPEAKER_10: So I started thinking about uh keeping my publishing to myself, you know, publishing my own songs, starting my own publishing company, and just different things like that that I thought would be, you know, smart business.
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SPEAKER_10: So through the years, I have been lucky and made some really good choices, but I've got a lot of good people that's helped me a lot too.
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SPEAKER_10: I owe a lot of my success to a lot of smart people.
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SPEAKER_08: But I'm thinking of of a young, say, an 18-year-old Dolly Parton in Nashville trying to make it talented.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh in that period, there weren't many opportunities for women.
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SPEAKER_08: Bluntly put, how did you keep the men off of you and keep your your mind and their mind on business and therefore build a business which is now tens of millions of dollars a year of business?
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SPEAKER_10: When I was young, you gotta remember, I first of all believed in my talent.
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SPEAKER_10: I really believed that I was heading to Nashville with something to sell.
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SPEAKER_10: I thought my songs were good, and I thought I was, you know, a good enough singer that I could pull that off.
14:13
SPEAKER_10: And I had all these brothers, so I knew men.
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SPEAKER_10: I had my dad, my uncles that I loved, and my grandpa's.
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SPEAKER_10: So I knew how men thought.
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SPEAKER_10: I knew them all so well.
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SPEAKER_10: And I always said I kind of I look like a woman, but I can also think like a man.
14:28
SPEAKER_10: So I was not intimidated, and I was a right pretty girl, you know, for for the times, you know, a little overdone, of course, but I used that.
14:37
SPEAKER_10: You know, I was not intimidated.
14:39
SPEAKER_10: I took it as a compliment when men thought I was, if they thought I was pretty.
14:43
SPEAKER_10: Uh, I thought, well, this is all good.
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SPEAKER_10: I can use this to my benefit, but I did not uh use it for anything other than to know what to do.
14:53
SPEAKER_10: Uh I knew that I had something and I would say things like, Look, I think I can make us both a lot of money if you want to, you know, work with me on this.
15:01
SPEAKER_10: And if sometimes some men did get, you know, a little out of line, a little out of place, but I knew how to manage that without hurting their feelings, to compliment them and not to take it as an insult because it wasn't, but if someone did get out of hand, I would know kind of what to say.
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SPEAKER_10: So I never slept with anybody to get anywhere.
15:20
SPEAKER_10: If I slept with somebody, it's because I wanted to, not to try to get ahead in the business.
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SPEAKER_10: So I just with some people, especially with me being overdone and over-exaggerated with the makeup and the hair and and the way I dressed, uh, some people might have thought I was dumb, but I would have the deal done and gone before they realized what had happened.
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SPEAKER_10: So I would I just looked at it like a business.
15:42
SPEAKER_10: And I I was always proud to be a woman.
15:44
SPEAKER_10: I never took their flirting as an insult.
15:47
SPEAKER_10: I thought it was a compliment.
15:48
SPEAKER_10: But I knew how to handle it.
15:50
SPEAKER_12: Well, you must pitch yourself and then think, you know, how did I get here from there?
15:54
SPEAKER_12: It it's a remarkable adventure, a remarkable story.
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SPEAKER_10: Well, you do think about it, and as you get older, you really think about it more.
16:02
SPEAKER_10: But I just realized how lucky I've been, how fortunate I am, and I'm very humble that I've been able to accomplish as much as I have.
16:08
SPEAKER_10: But I didn't know I couldn't do it until I had it done, so to speak.
16:11
SPEAKER_10: I guess I was just that silly or that ambitious.
16:13
SPEAKER_12: But did you dream?
16:14
SPEAKER_12: I mean, did uh did did you know you were going to be famous?
16:16
SPEAKER_10: I mean, I wanted to be.
16:18
SPEAKER_10: I believed that I would be, and I just worked with that in my heart and in my mind, and I just wouldn't accept it to be any other way.
16:25
SPEAKER_10: And I just it was just a lifestyle, and I figured I couldn't be any poorer than I'd been in my childhood.
16:30
SPEAKER_10: So when I went to Nashville, I knew I wouldn't starve.
16:32
SPEAKER_10: I knew I could do something, work in a restaurant or whatever.
16:36
SPEAKER_10: So I got lucky and got a job early on as a songwriter.
16:40
SPEAKER_10: And that's my favorite thing that I did is to write.
16:42
SPEAKER_10: So I got on a low salary and then I got lucky and got on a big syndicated show there in the States, and just from there everything just went.
16:50
SPEAKER_12: But but when did when did Dolly part?
16:52
SPEAKER_12: This this wonderful, extravagant personally.
16:57
SPEAKER_12: But when when I mean when did when did Dolly appear from from that that poor girl in the mountains in Tennessee?
17:03
SPEAKER_10: I mean, well, I always wanted to have pretty clothes, pretty things, and I read every book, every magazine I could see, and I really patterned my look, it was a country girl's idea of glamour, after what they call the town tramp.
17:15
SPEAKER_10: The uh the lady.
17:16
SPEAKER_10: Seriously, though there was this lady who they had in a mountain town, a country town.
17:21
SPEAKER_10: There's always a few loose women.
17:22
SPEAKER_10: But this woman was beautiful.
17:25
SPEAKER_10: You know, it's like and she was she had this beautiful propside hair that had a pollen, had red nails, high heel shoes, and and I just thought she was the prettiest thing I'd ever seen.
17:35
SPEAKER_10: And Mama said, Oh, she ain't nothing but trash.
17:39
SPEAKER_10: I thought that's what I want to be.
17:44
SPEAKER_10: I just really thought but I just love makeup, I love hang, I love flashy clothes, and and I'm not a natural beauty.
17:53
SPEAKER_10: I don't have legs and beauty like these girls when I would have been called and I got bunched up at the top.
18:04
SPEAKER_10: The one uh came from a series place that I've country girls.
18:10
SPEAKER_12: We always bunched up at the top.
18:47
SPEAKER_10: But if I think dragons, dragon and dragon, I forget it's fixed.
18:52
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, whatever I have to do.
18:53
SPEAKER_12: But but what what's the I mean you you've had you've been very frank about the amount of plastic surgery that you have to do.
18:59
SPEAKER_12: Um but uh just a a a a practical question.
19:01
SPEAKER_12: I mean, I would be terrified of plastic surgery from the point of view of having to go into a general anesthetic, you know.
19:07
SPEAKER_10: Just going to sleep?
19:08
SPEAKER_10: Well hell, I'd rather be put to sleep than to, you know, whatever then to do.
19:13
SPEAKER_12: No, but to do it once would be it would be all right.
19:15
SPEAKER_12: But I mean to you can't keep on good going doing this kind of.
19:18
SPEAKER_10: Well, I don't do that much.
19:20
SPEAKER_10: I don't do big bits at a time if I just see, you know, like the Botox thing.
19:24
SPEAKER_10: Whatever if you need a few little things.
19:26
SPEAKER_10: I still gotta completely.
19:30
SPEAKER_10: I'm kind of like a show dog, you know.
19:31
SPEAKER_10: You gotta keep them up like a show horse.
19:34
SPEAKER_10: I just kind of kind of look at it like keeping my car teamed up.
19:37
SPEAKER_10: If it's a little something I need, if I think, oh, I need I'll go do that, but um, I don't do it that often.
19:43
SPEAKER_10: And I just do the rest with paints and cranes.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: Dolly Parton had more hits than any other female artist in country music.
19:55
SPEAKER_00: She sold more records than anyone in country music, and she had this remarkable career that goes back to the 1960s.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: And here are some of the milestone moments uh that were discussed this week.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh, from her time with John meeting and talking to Johnny Cash, her first appearance on the Grand Old Opry, to Jolene, to I Will Always Love You.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: A little bit of the story behind the story.
20:20
SPEAKER_10: As the years went by, you know, we and we would visit and we liked each other a lot.
20:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, she's a good woman.
20:25
SPEAKER_10: I really, I really like it.
20:26
SPEAKER_10: She was a loud mouth like me.
20:27
SPEAKER_10: So we got along just fine.
20:28
SPEAKER_10: And Johnny, I remember when somebody said something about Johnny, don't you get tired of hearing June talk all the time?
20:34
SPEAKER_10: And he said, No, I do some of my best thinking when June to talk.
20:38
SPEAKER_10: So I think I think he does some of his best thinking when I'm talking.
20:44
SPEAKER_07: Well, I think that's how all husbands are.
20:45
SPEAKER_07: They just turn us out, you know.
20:47
SPEAKER_07: We were just so used to us.
20:47
SPEAKER_07: Oh sure.
20:48
SPEAKER_07: Um, when you performed that night, did you already have a sense of like the legacy that you wanted to build in country music?
20:54
SPEAKER_07: Or did that experience at the opery shift your perspective on what was possible for you as an artist?
21:00
SPEAKER_10: At that time I was just so nervous and and I reflected on that years later, as I still do.
21:05
SPEAKER_10: But at that time it was just a big deal, you know, to be there on the at the Grand Gold Opera with all those big name artists.
21:12
SPEAKER_10: And uh so I I think that I I was just it was just kind of addling at that time.
21:17
SPEAKER_10: I was just kind of addled about the whole thing.
21:19
SPEAKER_10: But I knew that that was, you know, just like when I got my encore on the Casa Walker show the first time I was on there, and I thought, oh boy, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna be a star.
21:28
SPEAKER_10: And now I years later I realized they weren't applauding so much because I was good.
21:32
SPEAKER_10: It was just because I knew.
21:34
SPEAKER_10: No, it wasn't, because I wasn't.
21:36
SPEAKER_10: You know, you have to develop and grow.
21:37
SPEAKER_10: But you know how everybody wants to be good to a kid.
21:40
SPEAKER_10: And the fact that I was out there doing it, I think they uh, you know, that people were just extra nice.
21:44
SPEAKER_10: And I think a whole lot of that might have been so with the opera.
21:47
SPEAKER_10: It was just kind of cute when you see a young person doing something.
21:50
SPEAKER_10: Just because I was a rock pretty girl at that time, you know, just young girl and you know so beautiful.
21:55
SPEAKER_10: And so I had all these musicians that were on the sessions always willing to drive me home, always willing to stop showing and buying me a burger.
22:02
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
22:02
SPEAKER_10: Some of them thinking they might get more, but uh and some of them might have, but that was not because I lucky fellas.
22:10
SPEAKER_10: Seriously, it's like uh they were always so good to me.
22:12
SPEAKER_10: Everybody seemed to know that uh my heart was in a good place and I was just kind of girl.
22:16
SPEAKER_10: I was funny.
22:17
SPEAKER_10: You know, I was always uh cracking jokes or you know, just being well like I am now, really.
22:22
SPEAKER_10: Um but everybody got a kick out of me, so I Just one of the boys because I had six brothers and all my uncles and my grandma was not a bitch around the man, and I knew how to you know how to maneuver.
22:56
SPEAKER_13: Don't let your left hand know.
23:00
SPEAKER_13: That's what the good books.
23:03
SPEAKER_13: Right now we've got a right now, we've got a present for you, a beautiful lady, and a sensational singing star, all wrapped up in the 130 gift package, and it's not even Christmas yet.
23:12
SPEAKER_13: To present the award for male vocalists of the year.
23:15
SPEAKER_13: Here again is Miss Dolly Park.
23:22
SPEAKER_11: Well, you always do, and I think you're one of the smartest men that I know.
23:26
SPEAKER_11: I really do.
23:30
SPEAKER_11: And this is something I wanted to ask you to uh about that up is because I have a question and I want you to answer because I know you would give me a right answer.
23:38
SPEAKER_10: Is there something wrong with me?
23:42
SPEAKER_13: Oh well, you don't need any STP.
23:46
SPEAKER_10: No, I mean, you know, sometimes uh sometimes people don't really say things about me that I don't uh always understand.
23:54
SPEAKER_11: I just wondered if you if there might be something missing.
24:01
SPEAKER_13: No, what are they saying?
24:02
SPEAKER_11: Well, just things like this guy wrote in a paper in Denver.
24:06
SPEAKER_11: The Dolly Parton show was just like one of her dresses.
24:09
SPEAKER_11: She put everything she had into it.
24:12
SPEAKER_13: Oh, well, well, no, that just means that you're thoroughly professional performer.
24:19
SPEAKER_11: That's really nice.
24:20
SPEAKER_11: What about the guy in uh Chicago that wrote Dolly Parton's hair is for fair and faucet might go if she wanted to hide.
24:35
SPEAKER_10: Oh, well, that's really nice.
24:36
SPEAKER_11: Well, I still don't explain about the guy in El Pasco that wrote Dolly Parton came from the hills of Tennessee and brought him with her.
24:47
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
24:49
SPEAKER_13: I think he means that you're a country girl who hasn't lost that pure, innocent, homespun country charm.
24:58
SPEAKER_10: I didn't find out what all that means.
25:00
SPEAKER_11: Oh now that is really sweet, and I knew that you'd be the person that could give me an answer to that, and I thank you.
25:07
SPEAKER_11: So is there anything I can do for you in return?
25:13
SPEAKER_11: I mean here.
25:14
SPEAKER_13: Oh, yeah, read the Lominees or the Male Vocalist of the Year.
25:18
SPEAKER_10: The title, the name Jolene, there was a little girl when I was working with the Portal Wagner show back in the in the 60s and 70s, uh, late 60s, early 70s.
25:28
SPEAKER_10: Um, there was a little girl at one of our shows, and she was a little red-headed girl, and she was pretty as she could be.
25:34
SPEAKER_10: And she came up to get an autograph and she said, Would you sign it to Jolene?
25:38
SPEAKER_10: I said, Oh, that's a pretty name.
25:40
SPEAKER_10: I said, I bet you were named after your dad.
25:41
SPEAKER_10: I bet his name's Joe.
25:43
SPEAKER_10: She said, No, it's just Jolene.
25:45
SPEAKER_10: I said, Well, I love that name.
25:47
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna write a song about you.
25:49
SPEAKER_10: And so I said, if you ever hear a song on the radio, uh called Jolene, you'll know it's about you.
25:54
SPEAKER_10: And so I was singing Jolene, Jolene.
25:56
SPEAKER_10: So the rest of the night I was sitting there signing.
25:58
SPEAKER_10: I got back to the bus and I was singing Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, just so I wouldn't forget the name, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene.
26:04
SPEAKER_10: So that's why the the the the cold course is pretty much just saying the word Jolene.
26:08
SPEAKER_10: And I wrote it down and then I just I started, you know, I thought, well, that is clever, and I had a little melody.
26:14
SPEAKER_14: You were extremely attractive, a very good looking woman.
26:17
SPEAKER_14: Were men constantly hitting on you?
26:19
SPEAKER_14: So like they probably looked at you like, oh, look at this robe, this nineteen-year-old girl from Tennessee.
26:25
SPEAKER_14: Did they try to take advantage of you not only in business but sexually as well?
26:29
SPEAKER_10: Uh well I was eighteen when I moved to Nashville.
26:32
SPEAKER_10: I met my husband the first day I got there.
26:34
SPEAKER_10: So I kinda I had left two boyfriends back home thinking the last thing I want in Nashville is a boyfriend.
26:40
SPEAKER_10: So what's the first thing I do?
26:41
SPEAKER_10: Find one.
26:42
SPEAKER_10: But I never thought of it.
26:43
SPEAKER_10: Men flirted with me, but I was a flirt myself.
26:46
SPEAKER_10: And I never took it wrong.
26:48
SPEAKER_10: I didn't have the same problems.
26:50
SPEAKER_10: I'd said in interviews that I look like a woman, but I think like a man.
26:55
SPEAKER_14: There were guys like who in business who would say, Hey, you know, d but this is before your Dolly Parton, the superstar, like, hey, you wanna uh record for me?
27:03
SPEAKER_14: This and you know, quit pro quote.
27:05
SPEAKER_14: Come out to dinner with me and let's have a couple of drinks and all this kind of thing.
27:08
SPEAKER_14: That that wasn't your experience?
27:10
SPEAKER_10: I never slept with anybody to get a hit, to get from point A to point B.
27:18
SPEAKER_10: If I slept with somebody, it's because I wanted to, not because I was doing it for any reason other than just something, you know, that I wanted to do.
27:27
SPEAKER_10: I was gonna dress like I dressed and look like I looked.
27:31
SPEAKER_10: I would have been disappointed if somebody hadn't noticed me.
27:34
SPEAKER_10: When my grandpa was just always preaching to me, you know, looking like he would just call me jazz bell and uh my grandpa, he was creeping, he would always say, Don't you want to go to heaven?
27:45
SPEAKER_10: I'd say something like, Yeah, I want to go to heaven, but do I have to look like hell when I get there?
27:52
SPEAKER_10: And then you'd gotta get you, you know, like backhanded or something.
27:56
SPEAKER_10: But uh I was pretty outgoing and I just knew how I was gonna look.
28:00
SPEAKER_10: Daddy Daddy couldn't whip it out of me, Mama couldn't talk it out of me, and grandpa couldn't preach it out of me.
28:07
SPEAKER_10: I was gonna look the way I look, and I still do.
28:11
SPEAKER_10: Because that's how I felt felt.
28:13
SPEAKER_10: When she Oh yeah, when Houston did I Will Always Love You, that was a big hit with me for sure.
28:19
SPEAKER_10: She did a great job of that from the bodyguard.
28:21
SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
28:21
SPEAKER_15: How did that happen?
28:22
SPEAKER_10: Because Kevin Costner was a fan and Well, he they had really had another song that they had planned to use in that spot, and somebody else covered it.
28:33
SPEAKER_10: So they were all of a sudden needing a song immediately.
28:36
SPEAKER_10: And I guess Kevin and his uh secretary both loved that song and he said, Well, let's get I Will Always Love You and the rest is history.
28:44
SPEAKER_10: That's great.
28:45
SPEAKER_10: Thank God for that one.
28:46
SPEAKER_15: I remember this cover because I remember Hugh Hafner offered you, at the time it seemed like an unbelievable amount of money, a million dollars to post naked and play boy.
28:55
SPEAKER_10: Now to post naked.
28:56
SPEAKER_10: I did a good article.
28:57
SPEAKER_10: This was like risque for me.
28:59
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that was a fun thing.
29:00
SPEAKER_10: It was a good article.
29:01
SPEAKER_15: Yeah, they got they got they got something.
29:03
SPEAKER_15: They didn't get the nude photo, but the but but they got they got something.
29:06
SPEAKER_10: I wasn't gonna go there.
29:07
SPEAKER_10: My daddy would roll over moments.
29:10
SPEAKER_10: But these are just some of the outfits that I've worn on stage uh things, on tours that I've been on.
29:15
SPEAKER_10: I heard him.
29:16
SPEAKER_15: Somebody told me that you have never worn the same outfit twice.
29:19
SPEAKER_10: Oh, that's a lie.
29:21
SPEAKER_10: I'm too cheap for that.
29:24
SPEAKER_10: And it's just like when Whitney died and uh when they at the funeral when we were watching that, and when they lifted her coffin up and they started singing that I Will Always Love You, talk about it overwhelming.
29:36
SPEAKER_10: I hadn't cried up to that.
29:37
SPEAKER_10: I hated that she was dead, and I my heart was heavy, and you'd hear all the stuff and you knew it.
29:42
SPEAKER_10: But it was only when uh, you know, they lifted her up and I knew that was so final, and thinking that I would forever be attached to her, connected to her because of that song.
29:53
SPEAKER_10: And just the then I saw my own self.
29:57
SPEAKER_10: I don't now there'll be two things, you know, two times that song will be played at a funeral for sure.
30:02
SPEAKER_10: That was at her funeral and at mine.
30:04
SPEAKER_10: I'm sure that that'll be the song that they would play.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: Would you like to have you with us?
30:16
SPEAKER_11: Well, it's good to be back with you, and I'm glad that you'd have me on.
30:19
SPEAKER_11: I've been out promoting this movie.
30:21
SPEAKER_11: I feel like a politician, like I'm running for something rather than promoting a movie.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, in a in a way, you are.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: You you want people to know what you have to offer in the way of motion pictures.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: How long did it take you to make this film?
30:30
SPEAKER_11: We worked in Chicago from July through October.
30:33
SPEAKER_11: All of us done on locations.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: It's hot in Chicago those months, isn't it?
30:36
SPEAKER_11: But it was real nice this summer.
30:37
SPEAKER_11: We had a few real hot days, but it the wind was nice and uh it was rough on my hair.
30:42
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
30:42
SPEAKER_11: Of course, there I was, my hair blowing in the wind, and I was too proud to run after it.
30:48
SPEAKER_11: We need some help here.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh but the folks of Chicago and Illinois and that whole area must have gone nuts to have you right there in the town all summer.
31:01
SPEAKER_10: They were very fine people, and we had a chance to go out to some of the little towns.
31:05
SPEAKER_10: We worked in a little town called Lamont.
31:07
SPEAKER_10: They used that for the Arkansas town.
31:08
SPEAKER_11: I was surprised to see how many little country areas that they had there.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: It's beautiful there.
31:13
SPEAKER_11: It's very pretty country, and uh Chicago was nice.
31:16
SPEAKER_11: And I thought of you because I know you're from Indiana.
31:18
SPEAKER_11: Indiana.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh a lot of corn, a lot of a lot of corn in northern Indiana and uh Illinois and uh Wisconsin and I think uh and uh so are you happy with how the film came out?
31:30
SPEAKER_11: Yes, I am.
31:31
SPEAKER_11: It's called Straight Talk.
31:32
SPEAKER_11: It's about the talk radio.
31:33
SPEAKER_11: I accidentally become a talk radio hostess, psychiatrist.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean accidentally?
31:38
SPEAKER_10: Well, I'm actually I get a job, I come from Arkansas, go to Chicago, and I get a job as a switchboard operator at this radio station called WNDY.
31:47
SPEAKER_11: My name is Shirley Kenyon, and there's a new uh radio psychologist coming in that day named Dr.
31:53
SPEAKER_11: Shirley Kendall.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, right away you can see there'd be a mix up.
31:56
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so I cut the lady off.
31:58
SPEAKER_11: No, I don't know how to work the telephones properly, so this lady has called to say her son is ill, she won't be in.
32:03
SPEAKER_11: So nobody ever gets the message she's not coming in, so it's time to go on the air.
32:07
SPEAKER_11: I'm walking down the hall to get coffee.
32:09
SPEAKER_11: They say Shirley, I say yes, they throw me on the air, and I start answering these questions in this real downhome uh common sense way, and I become an overnight sensation, falling in love with James Woods, who's a newspaper reporter.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: Let me interrupt you right there.
32:21
SPEAKER_02: James Woods, I know he's been on the show many, many times, and I and I don't think he'll be offended when I say this, but I know my personal evaluation of him is that he's nuts.
32:29
unknown: Nuts!
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Now, what was he was he goofy to work with?
32:33
SPEAKER_11: Was he he looks like he's a lot of twitching and a lot of uh Well, some say that he's a very uncomfortable person that's comfortable to be with.
32:41
SPEAKER_11: I personally loved him.
32:43
SPEAKER_11: I thought he was great.
32:44
SPEAKER_11: He was a perfect gentleman to me, and he really did good in this part.
32:47
SPEAKER_11: He was uh an unusual choice for this, a lot of people thought, but they wanted a character that was uh a little bit uh jaded, and he was supposed to be kind of a you know, a little bit hard, but he was soft and romantic, and we had a great time.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's quite an actor.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: He's a very, very good actor and very intense.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: And and he's smart.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: He's that scary kind of smart, you know.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: Now, uh as an actor, as as an actor, did you uh did you feel like you were having to work extra hard to keep up with this guy?
33:15
SPEAKER_11: You know, he was very generous with his talent with me because he seemed to like me and I liked him, and we got along real good.
33:21
SPEAKER_11: So he was real good about bringing me up to good levels because I anytime I do stuff with people, I try very hard to come up to their level.
33:28
SPEAKER_11: And if somebody's really good, you know, it really makes you better.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: I didn't mean to suggest that you're not a great actor in your own right.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: It's just that this guy could be intimidating.
33:36
SPEAKER_11: He's he is a wonderful actor, and I'd always loved him, he's always had a real magnetism, and he is intense, like you said, but he's he is very smart and very talented, and he was looking for a role that was a little bit softer than all these intense roles he played.
33:49
SPEAKER_11: And he went after this part, and and we all thought it was unusual, but we were all for it, and it worked real well.
33:54
SPEAKER_11: And this movie, I think, turned out really good.
33:56
SPEAKER_11: It's got a lot of humor, a lot of romance, a lot of good old down home philosophy, and it's sweet.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: When you when you were the two of you were on the set, did did he keep wanting to come into your trailer?
34:07
SPEAKER_11: Well, no, he didn't actually.
34:10
SPEAKER_11: But uh, we had a good time when we we worked together, we danced together and did a lot of choreography, and and we liked each other so much that when it did get to the love scenes, we really were into it, and he was a great kisser, and I I knew it.
34:22
SPEAKER_05: You!
34:25
SPEAKER_11: I know he's supposed to be very passionate, and he was.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: Have you heard that about me?
34:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, I could start that rumor if you want to.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: Let's do that.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh, let's test some equipment.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, I tell you what, we'll do a commercial here.
34:48
SPEAKER_02: We got plenty of time when we come back, right?
34:49
SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna sing some stuff for us.
34:51
SPEAKER_11: If you want me to.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, we'd love to have it too.
35:07
SPEAKER_11: Hundreds.
35:08
SPEAKER_11: It's really shows uh how life was a hundred years ago, and it's uh just my way of trying to preserve the old Smoky Mountain heritage.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: The Smoky Mountains are beautiful, by the way.
35:16
SPEAKER_11: They are.
35:17
SPEAKER_11: And and Dollywood is something I'm very proud of because we have a lot of wonderful things we do there for education through the Dollywood Foundation and scholarships, and we really do a lot in the county to try to, you know, to help all the people that live there because they're great people.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: See, see, now this is what I'm talking about.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: This is you have a great life, and you've done you've done wonderful things, and you, you know, it's you're gonna sing for us in a couple of minutes and you know, film and everything.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: We have to do uh station identification.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: All right, now when we come back, you'll sing.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: And I understand uh this is the CD from the film, and you've written all of these songs.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Is that correct?
35:47
SPEAKER_11: I did, and I'm very excited about it.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: And then what are we gonna hear when you come back?
35:50
SPEAKER_11: Straight Talk.
35:51
SPEAKER_11: That's the movie that opens tomorrow.
35:53
SPEAKER_11: And are you happy about it?
35:53
SPEAKER_11: And Greg Lidls.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: It's from the movie named Straight Talk.
35:56
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's the whole film.
35:58
SPEAKER_11: Oh, see, this is a musical of a sort.
36:00
SPEAKER_11: A musical of a sort.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: I know, I'm just I'm just kidding.
36:05
SPEAKER_11: Oh, you're being funny again.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, I if I live to be a thousand, there'll never be a Dave Wood.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: This won't happen for me.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: James Wood?
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: There is a James Wood.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: All right, we'll uh we'll do this.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: We'll pause here and then this is the uh now all of all of the songs on the CD are in the film, eh?
36:40
SPEAKER_11: Uh yes.
36:41
SPEAKER_11: There's uh there's a couple of things that they didn't, I guess didn't make the movie, but they're all the essence and the story of the the And the CD uh is called Straight Talk, and it's uh also the name of the film which opens tomorrow all across the country.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: And now you're gonna sing for us right this very minute.
36:55
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna sing the song called Straight Talk.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: Straight Talk.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: And you're in good hands with these guys.
36:59
SPEAKER_11: They were very good.
36:59
SPEAKER_11: I I we didn't get a chance to rehearse much, but this is a great band, and they sound a wonderful.
37:03
SPEAKER_11: Hope I can do my part.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm sure you'll be quite good.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes, ma'am.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: If you want to do it now, Dolly Parton.
37:19
SPEAKER_05: Give me some shirt up, shut up.
37:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh sugar, please.
37:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh we've got one sunny bike.
37:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh to see.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: Now, she doesn't know that you're here.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: I'll have to hope.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: And at night, it's not doggy phone, it's dolly phone.
37:45
SPEAKER_03: And look easy access dialing.
37:51
SPEAKER_10: I have to take Abby.
37:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, what am I doing now?
37:54
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'll be quiet.
37:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, you're not just waiting.
37:57
SPEAKER_10: You call it Lou though, right?
37:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:00
SPEAKER_03: So it's a Mary.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: Well, it could be a him.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: Um I six.
38:11
SPEAKER_03: Oh, hello.
38:11
SPEAKER_03: Is that Mary?
38:13
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
38:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, hello, Mary.
38:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh it's Graham Norton here.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: I I believe he knew I'd be calling.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:19
SPEAKER_03: You you you you do Dolly, Dolly Parton?
38:22
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: You do you and you do the voice and everything?
38:25
SPEAKER_13: Well, people hire me more for looks and voice.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: Right, but to do the voice, what what are the what are the important qualities if you wanted to sound like Dolly Parton?
38:35
SPEAKER_10: Well, some of the most important qualities are the bubbly personality and the accent.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's I'm I tell you, I'm calling from Britain, and um I'm with someone who uh to me sounds extraordinarily like Dolly Parton.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: Really?
38:50
SPEAKER_03: So if you could listen to her and maybe then just give give her some tips.
38:54
SPEAKER_03: Okay, just just one second.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: If you if you'd like to talk to Mary now.
38:57
SPEAKER_10: Okay, hi Mary.
38:58
SPEAKER_10: I do a lot of Dolly Parton impersonations, and they say I have the accent down really well.
39:03
SPEAKER_10: What do you think?
39:04
SPEAKER_10: Do you think I sound like her?
39:06
SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, but do you do you think that you do a better impersonation of Dolly than I am?
39:19
SPEAKER_10: I think that my accent is better.
39:25
SPEAKER_03: We don't have to, Mary, we're playing cruel tricks on you.
39:28
SPEAKER_03: That is Dolly Park talking to you now.
39:32
SPEAKER_03: It is well, it's like a Dolly Parker, we've been duped.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: No, truly, Mary, it is Dolly Parkman.
39:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
39:46
SPEAKER_04: You talk a lot about how you you grew up and you were quite poor when you grew up, and that you actually ate things that you caught.
39:54
SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, you do in the mountains when you're country people.
39:57
SPEAKER_10: It sounds awful when you read it, and people think, oh, you go around eating possum and groundhog and squirrel and rabbit, but that's what you do.
40:04
SPEAKER_10: You don't, you know, you either that or you go hungry.
40:07
SPEAKER_04: Well, what is it?
40:07
SPEAKER_04: Like, for example, what does it taste like?
40:08
SPEAKER_04: What does a squirrel taste like?
40:10
SPEAKER_10: It's good, it's sweet, it tastes like chicken.
40:12
SPEAKER_10: It's still like rabbit.
40:14
SPEAKER_10: People still serve rabbit in restaurants.
40:16
SPEAKER_04: I've even seen rabbits served in uh so in Central Park, if I see a squirrel go by, I should grab and see.
40:22
SPEAKER_10: Well, I don't eat that anymore, but there's nothing better than possum under glass.
40:26
SPEAKER_04: Is that true?
40:27
SPEAKER_04: No, do people eat possum?
40:29
SPEAKER_04: Because I grew up on one of my favorite shows of all time, Beverly Hillbillies, and granny's always cooking up possum.
40:33
SPEAKER_04: And I thought, is that real?
40:34
SPEAKER_04: Do people eat possums?
40:35
SPEAKER_10: If you're really, really in bad shape, you eat possum.
40:38
SPEAKER_10: My dad never would let us eat possum.
40:39
SPEAKER_10: He said, I ain't nothing but a damn rat.
40:41
SPEAKER_10: And it's true.
40:51
SPEAKER_04: Right.
40:53
SPEAKER_10: So you do what you do when your brother flushes.
40:55
SPEAKER_10: Sure.
40:55
SPEAKER_04: What did you do for fun?
40:56
SPEAKER_10: Well, we had lots of homemade toys.
40:58
SPEAKER_10: We had each other to play with.
40:59
SPEAKER_10: That's what Jerry have toys.
41:01
SPEAKER_10: But anyhow, but we the big things for us was like to go swimming at the suck hole.
41:05
SPEAKER_10: It was this uh it was a place uh, you know, at the river that had a bunch of rocks.
41:11
SPEAKER_04: We had one of those in Times Square, then they cleaned it up.
41:15
SPEAKER_10: They didn't like it because it was like a bunch of rocks and then like underneath there were caves, but it was like real deep cold water.
41:22
SPEAKER_10: And it was the best place in the world to swim, but you could get sucked under.
41:26
SPEAKER_10: And so everybody in the whole county called it the old suck hole.
41:29
SPEAKER_10: So it's like you had to ask they even had baptizers down there.
41:32
SPEAKER_10: But you could get you could get pulled in.
41:34
SPEAKER_04: It's like a giant toilet.
41:35
SPEAKER_04: You could get rocks.
41:37
SPEAKER_10: And it was dangerous.
41:37
SPEAKER_10: Your parents didn't like you to go, but you know how a bunch of rowdy kids are.
41:40
SPEAKER_10: But we made it.
41:41
SPEAKER_10: Sometimes I look back on that and I wonder how we did, but it was it was a good life.
41:45
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
41:47
SPEAKER_04: And you now things have gone so well for you.
41:49
SPEAKER_04: I know that you're a sucker for infomercials.
41:52
SPEAKER_04: You love infomercials and you love to buy all like you buy too much of that stuff.
41:56
SPEAKER_04: Is that true?
41:56
SPEAKER_10: I do.
41:57
SPEAKER_10: I have a weakness for it because as a kid, my grandmother uh was bedridden, and I used to sp help her spend time with her and like brush her false teeth and take her bedpan out, and none of the other kids would do it, but she used to order things for me out of the catalog.
42:09
SPEAKER_10: And I just got hooked on that as a little kid in the wish book.
42:13
SPEAKER_10: So now I get on airplanes, all those gift magazines, every infomercial, everything I see, I order it.
42:19
SPEAKER_04: Do you ever call up?
42:20
SPEAKER_04: You see it on TV late at night and you call and you're talking to somebody like send me that right now.
42:23
SPEAKER_04: Do you ever tell them that you're Dolly Parton?
42:25
SPEAKER_10: No.
42:25
SPEAKER_10: I don't.
42:26
SPEAKER_10: I'm Dolly Dean, which is my married name, but I do I order every exercise machine.
42:30
SPEAKER_10: I just hang my clothes and my wigs on it.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: You know, I don't ever use it.
42:34
SPEAKER_04: Like, none of us actually use them.
42:36
SPEAKER_04: I use mine to dry pasta, you know.
42:37
SPEAKER_04: I just rely all on it.
42:39
SPEAKER_10: But it all looks good, don't it?
42:40
SPEAKER_10: Sure.
42:40
SPEAKER_10: I'm just a sucker.
42:41
SPEAKER_10: I like to go to church.
42:42
SPEAKER_10: My dad's people were brought up, Baptist, and my mother's people, and all of us were like Pentecostal, holy rollers, sister of God.
42:50
SPEAKER_10: And that's a col totally different church.
42:51
SPEAKER_10: That was a mix of marriage.
42:53
SPEAKER_10: My dad, he didn't like to go to church anyway because he didn't want to have to be that good.
42:56
SPEAKER_10: But he loved to hear us sing, so he used to take us uh around to sing a lot of different things.
43:01
SPEAKER_10: And what would he do?
43:02
SPEAKER_10: Look in the window?
43:03
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he would he would say he would.
43:04
SPEAKER_10: He would crazy.
43:07
SPEAKER_10: No, he wouldn't just peep in the window, but he'd well in these old country churches, they don't have air conditioners.
43:12
SPEAKER_10: Just talking about some old church up in the backwoods.
43:14
SPEAKER_10: And my daddy was horrified of snakes.
43:16
SPEAKER_10: I remember this one time.
43:17
SPEAKER_10: One time daddy took us to sing, and he always said to my mama, now I don't care about all that healing.
43:22
SPEAKER_10: You can do whatever, and they can shout and they can do this, but I don't want my kids around no snake.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, because they used the snake in there.
43:28
SPEAKER_10: Well, a lot of chur a lot of people think that that's faith, and you know, you can handle snakes and they won't bite you and drink poison and it won't kill you.
43:35
SPEAKER_10: And I guess if you got that much faith, you could, but my daddy did not have that much faith.
43:40
SPEAKER_10: And now where his kids were concerned.
43:42
SPEAKER_10: So anyway, one night he had taken us to sing, uh, because he he just he when Mama was home doing other stuff, well she didn't drive anyway, but he took us to church one night, and we went way up in the mountains, and so we were singing, and uh, everybody started just shouting and praising the Lord, and we thought, boy, we're doing really good.
44:00
SPEAKER_10: These people really like us.
44:02
SPEAKER_10: All of a sudden, my daddy comes down the aisle and he said, Oh, holy Jesus.
44:07
SPEAKER_10: And we thought, we are good.
44:08
SPEAKER_10: Even daddy's getting religious.
44:10
SPEAKER_10: So we didn't know what was going on behind us, and this preacher, they he had pulled out uh rattlesnakes, seriously.
44:18
SPEAKER_10: And my dad came barreling down through them, and he said, You get them bleeping snakes away from my Bleeping kids, you bleep, bleep, and bleep bleep.
44:28
SPEAKER_10: And he can't do it.
44:31
SPEAKER_10: Bleeping through us in the car, and he was going down the road, and we were just sitting still as a mouth.
44:36
SPEAKER_10: And he said, bleep.
44:37
SPEAKER_10: I can't believe I said bleep bleep in the bleep bleeping church house.
44:46
SPEAKER_10: So that was the end of that.
44:47
SPEAKER_10: And that's when he told Mama my kids ain't going to more of them churches like that.
44:51
SPEAKER_10: So, but we did always sing in church.
45:25
SPEAKER_10: You know, just like my husband Carl almost.
45:27
SPEAKER_10: And of course, that's the hardest loss that anyone could ever have to lose the person you love the most.
45:33
SPEAKER_10: The fact that I've portrayed him so beautiful in the show, and seeing him, if not like that, you know, when I watch the show, it's healing in this way.
45:43
SPEAKER_10: It's almost like he's never gone.
45:45
SPEAKER_10: So now he'll always be here to not just for me, but in the minds of you know other people.
45:51
SPEAKER_10: And the same with my best friend Judy, you know, how I portrayed her and how people should see what our relationship is.
45:57
SPEAKER_10: Because all through the years, we've had a best friend for 70 years and a husband for 60, you know, a very loyal, devoted person.
46:05
SPEAKER_10: Just seeing all those parts in my life and how that has affected me.
46:10
SPEAKER_10: It's it's been healing in a way, but it's uh made me appreciate my life and made me appreciate all the people I wouldn't be here if you hadn't been there.
46:22
SPEAKER_10: I'm talking to my company, I'm talking to my parents, I'm talking to my family, I'm talking to Sandy Gar, I'm talking to God, first of all, you know, and it's like um I'm just saying, you know, like all the people that are in there without Judy, without Carl, I wouldn't be here if you hadn't been there.
46:38
SPEAKER_10: And the fairs.
46:40
SPEAKER_10: I've had to leave my heart wide open.
46:42
SPEAKER_10: And and that can be very painful.
46:44
SPEAKER_10: I'm a very sensitive person.
46:46
SPEAKER_10: And I'm a very deep person.
46:49
SPEAKER_10: So I've had to wear my heart on my sleeve, you know, for a long time now.
46:55
SPEAKER_10: And um, I cry easier than I used to.
46:58
SPEAKER_10: Uh, you know, I kind of get, you know, things hit me.
47:01
SPEAKER_10: I know a lot of that comes with age, but I think in this case, it's some of both, but I think more than anything, it's just leaving your life wide open for everybody to look right at you, right through you, and right into you.
47:16
SPEAKER_10: And I hope they see my heart.
47:19
SPEAKER_05: Hello, Pikachu! Hi.
47:28
SPEAKER_09: Just before her health took a sudden turn, Dolly was busy.
47:32
SPEAKER_09: I think it would be extra with this behind-the-scenes look at the country queen at work.
47:38
SPEAKER_09: Hi, everybody, it's Dolly, and I am so proud to invite you to my life of many colored museum.
47:44
SPEAKER_09: She was preparing to open her museum next month at her Broadway show, Dolly, a true original musical in December.
47:51
SPEAKER_09: Work was her passion and she had plans.
47:57
SPEAKER_09: And adding to her reported$600 million empire, soon you can pour your own cup of ambition.
48:03
SPEAKER_10: Cup of ambition is available now.
48:05
SPEAKER_10: Pour each cup.
48:07
SPEAKER_09: Dolly coffee, Dolly Pet accessories, and even Dolly Dolls are headed our way.
48:16
SPEAKER_10: She said, I've just written a song, listen to this.
48:20
SPEAKER_09: Just a few years earlier, she and her nine to five co-stars reunited with the documentary Still Working 9 to 5.
48:27
SPEAKER_10: Working 9 to 5, while Met Live.
48:32
SPEAKER_10: How can anybody ever do enough?
48:34
SPEAKER_10: No matter what you're doing, it's never gonna be enough.
48:37
SPEAKER_10: Well, hey there, it's Dolly, and I'm here to give you an update on a few things going on in my life.
48:45
SPEAKER_10: First, it's concerning my health.
48:47
SPEAKER_10: And I have some good news and a little bad news, but the good news is I'm responding really well to meds and treatments, and I'm improving every day.
48:59
SPEAKER_10: Now the bad news is it's gonna take me a little while before I'm up to stage performance level, because some of the meds and treatments make me a little bit sweamy-headed, as my grandma used to say.
49:13
SPEAKER_10: And of course I can't be dizzy carrying around banjos, guitars, and such on five-inch hills.
49:20
SPEAKER_10: And you know that I'm gonna be wearing them.
49:23
SPEAKER_10: Not to mention all those heavy rhinestone outfits, the big hair, my big uh personality.
49:32
SPEAKER_10: That would make anybody swim ahead.
49:35
SPEAKER_10: But just think of me as like an old classic car.
49:39
SPEAKER_10: That once restored can be better than ever.
49:43
SPEAKER_10: But when they raise the hood on this old antique, I realized that I need to rebuild my engine, that my transmission is slipping, my oil pan is leaking, and my muffler's busted, and my socks and pistons need to be replaced, and for sure, my spark plugs need to be changed.
50:05
SPEAKER_10: Because you know, as well as I know, that I can't lose my spark.
50:12
SPEAKER_10: I know, I'm still crazy, but they didn't mention nothing about my mental health.
50:18
SPEAKER_10: But you know, I've told you before that I've always had problems with my kidney stones.
50:23
SPEAKER_10: Lord, they dig more stones out of me a year than the rock quarry in Rockwood, Tennessee.
50:29
SPEAKER_10: But seriously, my immune system and my digestive system got all out of whack over the past couple three years.
50:38
SPEAKER_10: And they're working real hard on rebuilding and strengthening those.
50:42
SPEAKER_10: And hopefully, I'll be up to snuff again soon.
50:45
SPEAKER_10: Maybe I shouldn't have said snuff.
50:47
SPEAKER_10: Snuff wouldn't be very good for either of those, would it?
50:51
SPEAKER_10: Plus, I wouldn't want my lower lip to fall off on top of everything else.
50:55
SPEAKER_10: That'd be like losing a hubcap, wouldn't it?
50:58
SPEAKER_10: Anyway, I know I'm being silly, but I'm just trying to keep everything light and airy.
51:04
SPEAKER_10: They say that happy heart is like good medicine.
51:08
SPEAKER_10: Do you think I might be over medicating myself right now?
51:12
SPEAKER_10: But the truth is, I am still working.
51:15
SPEAKER_10: I still do videos, I still record, I run up and down to Dollywood now and then, and I'm working hard on getting my museum and my hotel open in Nashville later this year.
51:27
SPEAKER_10: And I am spending a lot of time writing and reworking on my Broadway musical.
51:32
SPEAKER_10: It's called Dolly, a true original musical.
51:36
SPEAKER_10: And that's gonna be opening later in New York this fall or early winter.
51:41
SPEAKER_10: Oh, I know you're thinking, Lord, sick oil, that girl's always promoting something.
51:48
SPEAKER_10: Well, that's true, but that's how you get it done.
51:51
SPEAKER_10: And oh, on a more serious note, I am truly sorry, but I'm gonna miss all of you that had tickets to see me in Las Vegas.
51:59
SPEAKER_10: Well, you get home to Vegas and you have a big time.
52:02
SPEAKER_10: And hopefully, sometime you'll come up to New York and maybe see my show.
52:07
SPEAKER_10: And I'll see you somewhere down the line.
52:10
SPEAKER_10: But I just want you to know also that a lot of you being concerned about me and Carl, and you were so great about that.
52:18
SPEAKER_10: But after going through a year first, I mean the holidays and especially our wedding anniversary and the day of his death, March 3rd, you know, that was hard for me.
52:30
SPEAKER_10: But I will always love him and I'll always miss him.
52:35
SPEAKER_10: But you would be surprised at how much your love and concern meant to me during that time.
52:42
SPEAKER_10: Lord, my house and my porch look like the botanical gardens with all the flowers, and my den look like the post office with all the cards and letters.
52:51
SPEAKER_10: So, yes, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you.
52:54
SPEAKER_10: You have been a big part of my healing.
52:59
SPEAKER_10: Speaking to Carl and my health, I remember back years ago, I was uh saying something, I'm griping about something hurting or this and that.
53:08
SPEAKER_10: Carl said, Now, honey, you got to remember you're not getting any younger.
53:14
SPEAKER_10: I said, Well, honey, you've got to remember that as long as there are plastic surgeons in this world, I'm not getting any older.
53:23
SPEAKER_10: But anyway, um I of course plastic surgeons can make you look as good as they can on the outside.
53:30
SPEAKER_10: But it's serious business when you're talking about internal medicine.
53:35
SPEAKER_10: So I have great doctors and I'm doing really well, and they assure me that everything I have is treatable.
53:44
SPEAKER_10: So I'm going with that.
53:46
SPEAKER_10: And I just want you to know I thank you for standing by me and that I will always love you.
53:52
SPEAKER_10: Thank you.
54:04
SPEAKER_10: Anyway, I wanted to welcome all of you and say thank you for coming.
54:08
SPEAKER_10: We're very excited about our truck stop, the Tennessee and travel stop.
54:13
SPEAKER_10: And uh, I just love the fact that I'm working with Greg, who's such a wonderful guy, the guy that's just talking, Greg Sachs here.
54:21
SPEAKER_10: Of course, he's had this place for a while, and he said, Well, why don't we just go into business together?
54:26
SPEAKER_10: I said, I think that's a great idea because I've spent my whole life traveling down the road.
54:32
SPEAKER_10: So, anyway, I wanted to welcome all of you and to say thanks.
54:36
SPEAKER_10: And you, I'm sure some of you wonder why I wanted to talk stuff.
54:40
SPEAKER_10: Well, I couldn't leave it to beavers.
54:51
SPEAKER_10: So, anyway, we're not trying to compete with anybody.
54:54
SPEAKER_10: We don't think we'll have to.
54:56
SPEAKER_10: We think we're gonna have everything that you want to meet.
54:59
SPEAKER_10: So, thank you so much for coming.
55:01
SPEAKER_10: And we're gonna cut the ribbon.
55:46
SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry about that.
55:48
SPEAKER_10: I'm supposed to be the emperor.
55:52
SPEAKER_10: I've found a lot of man.
55:54
SPEAKER_10: I've had my bathroom.
56:07
SPEAKER_10: This is the six and most expensive ride that we have ever had to tell you.
56:15
SPEAKER_10: So we're gonna open it today.
56:17
SPEAKER_10: That's why I'm here.
56:32
SPEAKER_10: And I get happy.
56:34
SPEAKER_10: I'm happy.
56:44
SPEAKER_10: You make it this way.
56:46
SPEAKER_10: You make it this way.
56:49
SPEAKER_10: I like to keep all of you in the middle.
56:51
SPEAKER_10: I can see that one.
56:58
SPEAKER_10: I can tell you what I would tell many color musical.
57:20
SPEAKER_10: I just kidding.
57:21
SPEAKER_10: I don't want you to tell everybody that I might you lied.
57:28
SPEAKER_10: And you have fun and I'll see you.
57:45
SPEAKER_01: Dolly Parton, the country music icon who broke every barrier known in the music industry, has passed away at the age of 80.
57:55
SPEAKER_01: It's well known that she's been in ill health for the last number of months.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: Her family says that she passed away peacefully at her home in Nashville today.
58:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you'll remember that uh her beloved husband Carl, uh, to whom she was married for 59 years, passed away last year.
58:13
SPEAKER_01: Dolly mourned his passing, uh, tried to move on with life, but then uh was beset with some health issues, and uh she has now uh passed from this world.
58:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh, according to the family, she will be laid to rest quickly in a small ceremony.
58:29
SPEAKER_01: But Sandra, what a way to start off this hour.
58:31
SPEAKER_01: We we interviewed Dolly on this program not too long ago.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: You know, she was a friend of the show.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: We had her on a number of times.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh I took the family to Dollywood a couple of years ago.
58:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, saw the story of her life at in the Dollywood uh displays there.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, there's just no words to say how sad we are that this has happened.
58:51
SPEAKER_06: There was immediate gasps and tears on set here, John, when we got the news.
58:55
SPEAKER_06: And there was not a person I know who just didn't absolutely love Dolly Parton.
59:01
SPEAKER_06: She was a global icon, a humanitarian, overall just a good person, John.
59:06
SPEAKER_06: Yes, we were blessed to interview her several times on the show, a friend of the program.
59:10
SPEAKER_06: She was known to the world as a beloved singer, songwriter, philanthropist, actress, playwright.
59:15
SPEAKER_06: Um, she died peacefully today there, as you mentioned, in Nashville, Tennessee.
59:19
SPEAKER_06: She was 80 years old, John, preceded uh in death by her beloved husband of 59-year-old uh Carl Thomas Dean.
59:27
SPEAKER_06: We pray for her, and she will be so dearly missed, John.
59:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember um, gosh, it was last year, I guess, that we spoke to her, and it was not long, it was just a couple of three months after Carl had passed away.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: And she said that that was a big piece of her life that was gone, but that she was going to put her her efforts into opening up uh, you know, that new uh pirate show uh in Florida that she uh was investing a lot of money in.
59:53
SPEAKER_01: And it's a great pirate show as well.
59:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh as well as, you know, continuing to expand Dollywood and proceed with other uh projects as well.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: She was just one of those people, you know, who had an indefatigable spirit.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_01: And she just she never sat down, it would seem, for even a moment, you know, throughout her entire 80 years.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, she she was born in a very small town in in Tennessee near Pigeon Forge.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, grew up uh with I think 11 or 10 other siblings.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh the family apparently never went hungry in those early days, but then she decided that she was going to set her sights on Nashville.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, uh, I guess suffered the swings and arrows of the music industry and the early going, but then suddenly hit it big and just never looked back from there.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_06: Seven-decade career, and we know, John, she inspired so many.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_06: Multiple generations of artists and fans also want to note she's godmother to Miley Cyrus.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_06: Uh, but she has fans all over the world.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_06: Um, she has an unwavering commitment, as we always we always heard directly from her, to her fans.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_06: And she always said she believed she was truly put on this earth to make the world a better place.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_06: And John, I think about my my small kids.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_06: They know so many Dolly Parton songs and absolutely love her music.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_06: Her songs just have continued to resonate with people of all ages.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_06: And I also just remember right now her philanthropic work and the lasting impact that will have.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_06: And I know that was truly one of her greatest joys, John.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_06: And she spoke so much about that throughout her life, just how important it was for her, um, as successful as she became to give back.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, we're we're teeing up a bunch of people to uh help us remember Dolly Parton.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_01: But I I guess, yeah, was she she went to Nashville, uh, she was sort of a child prodigy at that point, uh, did a number of recordings, but it wasn't really until she hooked up with Porter Wagner that she really emerged as a as a megastar.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: And then it seemed that everything that she touched from then on in turned to gold, even when she made a turn into film for uh the the show uh the movie Nine to Five, for which she sang the title track.
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SPEAKER_01: And she was just such a lovely, lovely person to talk to.
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SPEAKER_01: She just she didn't make just talking to her made you feel good because she had such a sunny disposition.
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SPEAKER_01: Sunny disposition, and she just had to just brimming with optimism that there was always a better day ahead and that there was nothing that couldn't be done.