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Triston Patrick | The Coaches of the CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:11
  What's going on everybody
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  welcome live from Fort Worth, Texas
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  Gladstone Media interview, podcast,
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  whatever we're calling this.
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  But Coach Krispy Kreme is back on the air.
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  What's going on, brother?
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  Back, finally.
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  We've only been trying to do
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  this for two and a half months.
• 0:51
  Yeah.
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  Something ridiculous.
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  It's been crazy.
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  So crazy.
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  But you are back for your
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  second year coaching individual athletes.
• 1:03
  Yeah.
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  At the CrossFit Games.
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  Easier year two or harder?
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  Um, that's a really good question.
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  A little easier, uh, in some ways,
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  just kind of know what to expect,
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  done it once before,
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  kind of have an idea of
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  things I tried that work,
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  things I tried that didn't work, right?
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  Like those kinds of things.
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  Uh, but I would say still challenging,
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  you know,
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  With Dave kind of taken over this year,
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  the individual side,
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  How much difference have you already seen?
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  Oh, it's the work capacity games again.
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  By far.
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  Boz was much more interested
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  in execution and precision.
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  And Dave is about testing
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  massive amounts of work
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  capacity across the weekend
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  in various ways.
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  I think that's pretty clear,
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  even just by what's been
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  announced so far.
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  So you and Hattie checked in yesterday.
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  Yes, yesterday.
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  How did that go?
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  It was good.
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  It was really well run, seamless.
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  GoRuck did a good job.
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  The other vendors and booths
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  that were there were cool.
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  The other partners and sponsors.
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  It was a lot of fun.
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  It was very well run, smooth.
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  It was nice.
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  Not like
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  waiting around for a long
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  time to do anything,
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  but you weren't rushed either.
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  So it was cool.
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  How many takes did the jump
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  take for you to get the right one?
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  A few.
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  I got in trouble with the
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  photographer because my arm
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  kept coming up and blocking the light.
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  So it was, it was messing up the shot.
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  So I had to think about what
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  I was doing with my hand
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  when we were doing that.
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  But yeah, that was a lot of fun.
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  They played music for him, for her.
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  She was like, I wasn't music to, you know,
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  when she was doing her
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  stuff and it was cool.
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  It was really fun.
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  What made me happy is seeing the,
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  this in the jump while jumping.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  She pulled it off.
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  Yeah,
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  that's our little sign to each other.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like her thing now, like this.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So Kelly and Hattie are very
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  different athletes,
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  very different people.
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  What is the biggest
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  difference you see this
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  year taking care of Hattie
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  as opposed to taking care of Kelly?
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  Kind of the vibe they like, I think.
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  Kelly, I mean, she's just so like – right?
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  Like she got to Madison a day before me.
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  She like was – like had her hotel room,
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  had her rental car, like da-da-da-da-da,
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  all these things.
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  Obviously,
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  it's a little different to the
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  games being in Fort Worth.
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  Like Hattie came down.
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  We drove up from Houston.
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  Versus this year,
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  we're at a massive Airbnb with family,
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  coach, my fiance's here,
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  kind of like her whole tribe.
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  Whereas Kelly had space for
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  her to just kind of go
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  completely decompress and
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  things like that.
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  So a little bit different
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  for I think what the energy
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  they need from how they
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  decompress and stuff in
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  competition and the vibe.
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  And then
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  I mean,
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  preparing them for the games in
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  terms of the nuts and bolts
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  was quite different because
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  they're just very different
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  athletes when it comes to
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  some of the physiology
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  stuff and training and all that stuff.
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  So Corey says, and we're on a hot mic.
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  Am I too loud?
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  It could be me because...
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  You're fine to me.
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  Okay.
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  Am I good to you?
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  You're good to me.
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  But I'm sure there's a ton
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  of background noise from me
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  just because I don't have a
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  headset and we've got people here.
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  This is the first time I've used this.
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  Okay.
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  So I don't know the volume of it.
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  You said no, you didn't, Scott.
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  Yeah, we're good.
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  All right.
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  We're good.
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  All right.
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  So you did Madison last year.
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  Now you're in Texas.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  We left my house at 9 a.m.
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  Monday morning and got to
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  CrossFit Westwood at 1.30
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  to move around and get her
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  loose and get settled.
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  Okay.
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  It was pretty nice.
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  Not going to lie.
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  Filled up the truck.
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  with the recovery stuff and food and,
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  you know, my suitcase, her suitcase,
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  I'll just made the travel a lot easier.
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  I personally,
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  just from a media perspective,
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  love when I can drive to the event,
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  because I can take everything.
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  Yeah, right.
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  And I don't have to worry
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  about forgetting anything.
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  How much was it an ease of
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  your mind that you knew you
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  could drive it if you had to?
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  Oh, it was a ton of ease to my mind.
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  It even led to me doing goofy stuff.
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  Like I brought my cowboy
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  boots and a pair of jeans.
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  And anytime I've went to the venue so far,
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  I've been in those like,
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  because that's really easy to just,
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  you know,
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  toss my boots in the back of the
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  truck and do that.
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  Versus if I had to get on an airplane,
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  I'd be like, man,
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  this is really worth the space.
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  So, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So is that going to be the whole weekend?
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  So it never intended to be.
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  At first,
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  I was just going to do it at
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  check-in just for fun.
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  I think I have this internal
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  shtick in my brain where we
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  all want CrossFit to be a
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  professional sport,
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  but we all dress like we
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  just went to 24-hour fitness,
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  even the coaches.
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  And I'm not saying we need
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  to be in three-piece suits all the time,
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  like basketball or something.
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  But I was like, maybe, you know,
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  we can be progressive with
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  the dress code.
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  So I wore my jeans and my boots.
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  I was going to wear a polo,
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  but I forgot one.
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  And I don't have a, like,
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  branded one for Ascend.
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  So that was as far as it was
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  ever meant to go.
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  And then one of my other coaches, he said,
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  you should wear it again
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  today to the orientation.
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  I was like, all right,
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  I'll wear it again today.
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  So I wore it again today to orientation.
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  Um,
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  I don't know that I'm going to be at
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  the lake in it tomorrow.
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  Um, it is warm.
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  It, the temperature here,
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  I know people are going to
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  tell me I'm crazy.
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  It feels a lot better than
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  Houston just cause it's not as humid.
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  Like it's hot,
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  but it's not nearly as humid.
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  So I can still get away with
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  wearing jeans and not
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  sweating profusely immediately.
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  Um,
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  So I don't know.
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  We might have some events at
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  Dickie's in the jeans and boots again.
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  I'm going to have to wash these.
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  I only brought one pair of jeans.
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  So I have to figure that out.
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  But I don't know.
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  We'll have to see.
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  Well, you're in an Airbnb.
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  That's different from last year, right?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I was in a hotel for like nine days.
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  Yeah.
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  So you have that ability to
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  do laundry and.
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  cook or whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  I haven't brought my own
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  laundry detergent.
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  Easy.
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  Yeah, I got in today.
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  What a mess.
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  But I got in today, got to the hotel.
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  I have not eaten since I got
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  up this morning.
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  And finally just door dashed something in.
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  But there are actually
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  restaurants across the street,
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  but it was so freaking hot.
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  For me, this door deter, like...
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  Let's save my energy for
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  later in the weekend.
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  It's warm.
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  I'm not going to deny that it's hot.
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  I'm not going to be that
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  quintessential southerner that's like,
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  it's not hot out here.
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  No, it's hot.
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  I'm just used to worse conditions.
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  Yeah,
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  I think it was 103 when I came in today.
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  Yeah.
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  So the only thing that
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  really has bothered me
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  about the heat so far is
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  tap water is not cold.
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  Yep.
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  I didn't even think that
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  that would be a thing.
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  Yeah.
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  In the north, you turn on the tap water,
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  you get cold water from under the ground,
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  right?
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  Yeah.
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  And here, you turn on the tap water,
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  and it's still lukewarm.
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  I love that.
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  Yeah, it is.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's something I would
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  have never even thought
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  about because I just put
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  ice in all my water.
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  Yeah, don't have that in the hotel room.
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  See, you're in the Airbnb.
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  See, another case for the Airbnb.
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  Yeah.
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  Corey says,
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  you're going to have to do
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  Jamie's laundry in Birmingham.
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  Not enough uniforms.
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  Yeah, if so, I'll do it.
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  No biggie.
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  Just a little laundry.
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  Yeah.
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  Not a problem here.
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  They got, looks like the whole...
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  Line of clothing from Goruck.
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  Lots of swag, lots of uniforms.
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  It was cool.
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  Goruck did some cool stuff
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  with some of the apparel too,
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  with the way they did the flags,
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  the way they put their names on there,
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  the country, sewn some stuff on.
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  The backpacks have like an
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  embroidered patch, I think,
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  or like a depressed patch
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  with their initials.
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  They did some cool stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Coaches get anything or just a wristband?
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  It's the same thing as always.
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  We stand there,
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  we get a wristband and we
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  get told all the things we can't do.
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  Yeah.
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  Kenneth asks,
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  so is Yeti the title sponsor?
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  To my understanding,
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  there is no title sponsor.
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  There are just sponsors of things.
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  I guess.
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  Yeah.
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  I saw the,
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  I briefly saw when I was on Instagram,
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  I saw the little Hiller thing with Yeti.
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  I think Goruck's the sponsor
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  but the way it was released
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  in the press release was
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  they were the apparel
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  sponsor so I guess that's
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  all they are I get here's
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  my if you look at the
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  CrossFit Games logo it does
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  not have any name other
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  than 2024 CrossFit Games
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  that's true if it was a
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  title sponsor there would
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  be a brand name in that
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  logo right that's true
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  And I have not seen that as of yet.
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  Now, I was on a plane all day today,
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  so who knows?
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  My social media presence has
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  been about zero today.
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  Yeah, actually,
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  just when we went on the air,
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  it looks like they
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  announced team events two and three.
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  I feel so bad, but I'm such a...
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  I mean, I don't feel super bad about it,
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  but I do enjoy watching the
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  team competition and
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  knowing what the events are, you know,
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  that kind of stuff.
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  One of our Ascend coaches is on a team.
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  I have friends on teams,
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  but when I'm something like
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  the games in go mode the whole time,
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  I probably won't be able to
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  tell you three of the team
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  events at the end of the weekend.
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  Just.
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  And last year, I knew all of them,
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  obviously, because of Einhorn.
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  But this year, I'm like, nope,
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  not my priority, not important,
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  don't have bandwidth for it.
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  Yeah, totally understandable.
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  So as a coach,
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  you have three events a day until Sunday.
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  I don't have a script,
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  so we're just going on the fly.
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  How disappointed...
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  I was disappointed when I
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  saw that event six was not
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  a double scored event.
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  I wasn't overly surprised it wasn't.
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  I figured it would be initially.
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  But I had thought in the
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  back of my head they could
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  make it some sort of combined score.
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  And if I am correct,
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  the way they're doing it
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  know if you get second and
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  second you have four points
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  and then that'll just rank
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  you for your total you know
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  placing kind of like the
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  open right I like that a
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  lot for an event like that
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  personally because if
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  you're not good at both of
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  the time domains of running
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  you can't try to hide
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  on the leaderboard with a
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  win and a low finish.
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  Like it helps a little,
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  but I like that it's
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  balanced a little bit more in that sense.
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  I do think it's,
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  I was expecting 12 total events though.
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  I will say that.
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  But what we were talking
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  about a moment ago with Dave's
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  proclivity to test a lot of
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  work capacity and the way
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  he writes workouts,
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  we may see all the events
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  and look back and be like, you know,
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  we didn't need 12.
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  Right.
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  Well,
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  just because that isn't double scored,
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  doesn't mean we're not
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  going to get a double
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  scored event on Sunday
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  where there's only two events, right.
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  Or two slots.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  So I could see a potential
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  double score on one of the
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  events in the last day or
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  like a two parter for sure.
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  I just felt the two Friday
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  night events were both valid tests.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, they're different for sure.
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  Right.
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  It's roughly testing through
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  the same modality, but it's not exactly,
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  it's,
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  it's like a combined test the way they,
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  the way the second portion
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  starts at 12 minutes.
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  So by doing it that way,
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  you're testing the mile
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  ability and that kind of
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  energy system and speed.
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  And then they're testing
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  your recovery and then
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  going into a very high
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  intensity sprint with some load.
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  So I think I would...
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  guess potentially the reason
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  it scored the way it is is
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  because of how he wanted
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  the test to like play out
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  and feel okay potentially
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  um with what you know so
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  far how are you feeling
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  with hattie going into the
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  weekend I'm excited for I think
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  you know,
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  all the workouts we've found out
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  so far are good workouts for her,
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  good tests.
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  I mean, we've got a long run and a swim.
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  We've got a running dominant workout,
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  got some rope climbs, you know,
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  stuff like that.
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  I,
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  I'm excited for her to just go kind of
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  like she did at semifinals.
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  And that's the mindset we're
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  taking with this is go run
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  Hattie's race and go
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  showcase your hard work.
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  If you were a professor and,
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  And you gave her your final
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  exam at semifinals.
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  She aced it until the final event.
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  You sure?
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  Her and I talked.
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  She found out from an
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  outside source that she had clinched.
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  Do you think that was the
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  crux of everything?
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  Or did you need to work on
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  something from that point
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  till this till now?
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  I mean,
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  we definitely went back and
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  addressed some, you know, lunging,
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  ring muscle ups.
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  Like we put a small premium
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  on those events or those movements.
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  But I do think a lot of that
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  was what she had talked
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  about with just where her
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  head was at going into that last event,
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  knowing that she had clinched.
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  and just kind of had a weird
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  kind of emotional response to it.
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  What a wild sport when
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  you're the only athlete
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  going into the final event
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  who has clinched a spot and
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  you fall off the podium.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, that was a crazy just, what,
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  four minutes of my life and her life.
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  But, I mean...
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  Gosh,
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  I'd like to learn that lesson when
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  you've clinched.
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  True.
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  Not on the bubble, right?
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  Which was better than last
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  year when you had the same
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  catastrophe on the final event of semis,
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  but you had to wait.
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  15 minutes.
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  What did I text you right after the event?
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  I'm cursed.
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  Yeah.
• 19:08
  It's not them.
• 19:09
  It's me.
• 19:11
  Two years in a row, two different athletes,
• 19:13
  different venue.
• 19:16
  Last event, shenanigans.
• 19:17
  It's not them.
• 19:18
  It's me.
• 19:18
  I'm cursed.
• 19:22
  Yeah, I was losing my mind on the stream.
• 19:26
  Yeah, that was wild.
• 19:28
  I mean,
• 19:29
  that was a learning moment for me
• 19:30
  as a coach.
• 19:31
  That was a learning moment
• 19:32
  for her as an athlete.
• 19:35
  But, again,
• 19:35
  would rather learn those
• 19:36
  lessons in the position we
• 19:38
  were in than on the bubble,
• 19:40
  outside looking in, something like that.
• 19:43
  So in our talks,
• 19:45
  I know you're a geek for
• 19:47
  this coaching thing, right?
• 19:49
  You try to suck up as much
• 19:50
  knowledge as you can.
• 19:51
  How would you grade your
• 19:56
  improvement from last
• 19:58
  season to this season as a coach?
• 20:06
  I would say...
• 20:11
  I'm pretty stingy with my
• 20:14
  own grading of myself.
• 20:16
  I generally think I can always do better.
• 20:20
  So I'll try to be generous
• 20:22
  with myself and say I got an A minus.
• 20:26
  Other people might say I've done better,
• 20:28
  but you've known me a
• 20:31
  decent bit of time now.
• 20:32
  And my fiance could
• 20:33
  definitely tell you my
• 20:34
  default operating system is
• 20:37
  you're not good enough.
• 20:39
  So hard for me to
• 20:41
  be generous with myself sometimes,
• 20:43
  but I'm trying to get better at it.
• 20:47
  I learned a ton last year.
• 20:51
  Being blessed to be in the
• 20:52
  situation with training Kelly,
• 20:54
  training Hattie, training Madison,
• 20:56
  training Savannah, training Jacob,
• 20:58
  all for semifinals, then
• 21:01
  continuing to train and the
• 21:02
  team and then continuing to
• 21:04
  train Kelly and the team
• 21:06
  for the games that
• 21:09
  definitely allowed me to be
• 21:12
  a lot smarter in my
• 21:14
  approach for this year for
• 21:16
  semifinals and then definitely the games.
• 21:21
  I also just think there's no
• 21:25
  replacement for time with
• 21:27
  an athlete to learn them.
• 21:30
  right like I being able to
• 21:34
  coach hattie for a whole
• 21:35
  nother 365 days like we
• 21:38
  learned so much last year
• 21:39
  we trialed things in the
• 21:41
  summer we had conversations
• 21:43
  we learned things we went
• 21:44
  and did outfit like learned
• 21:46
  things there like we
• 21:48
  learned a lot and I had time to
• 21:51
  continue to understand like
• 21:53
  the dose response what she
• 21:55
  needs what she doesn't need
• 21:56
  what sticks what doesn't
• 21:57
  stick the frequency and
• 21:59
  like all of those different
• 22:00
  things to have a better
• 22:02
  approach um so it was it
• 22:06
  was part of the difficulty
• 22:08
  I think of games prep is or
• 22:11
  semis prep and then games
• 22:12
  prep is doing it with two
• 22:14
  different people but I did
• 22:16
  have more time with hattie this year
• 22:19
  our background last year so
• 22:21
  I could be more strategic
• 22:23
  right um yeah and if people
• 22:27
  don't remember most of your
• 22:29
  athletes came tfx or later
• 22:34
  yeah yeah except for kelly
• 22:38
  galley was on a team that
• 22:40
  you helped with the year
• 22:42
  before so that was natural
• 22:45
  and then if we were looking
• 22:47
  at this like a college football coach
• 22:50
  you had a hell of a
• 22:51
  recruiting trip to TFX.
• 22:54
  Yeah.
• 22:55
  Yeah.
• 22:57
  Yeah.
• 22:57
  I went to TFX and two weeks
• 23:00
  later had a way busier schedule.
• 23:04
  Way.
• 23:04
  Yeah.
• 23:04
  Cause you,
• 23:05
  you got Madison Savannah from TFX.
• 23:08
  Madison Savannah.
• 23:12
  I had been coaching the team already.
• 23:15
  So they were already with me.
• 23:17
  So yeah, Madison, Savannah,
• 23:18
  and then Hattie came just after TFX.
• 23:22
  Well,
• 23:26
  I don't think she was in Houston yet.
• 23:28
  If she had,
• 23:28
  she hadn't been there very long.
• 23:31
  Yeah, I knew it was around that time,
• 23:33
  but timing's weird.
• 23:35
  Because she got there, yeah,
• 23:38
  I want to say it was around that time.
• 23:40
  She hadn't been to Houston for very long.
• 23:45
  yeah tfx last year was wild
• 23:51
  so I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 23:52
  finish up with this
• 23:53
  question had justin kotler
• 23:56
  on not that long ago
• 24:01
  because of situations that
• 24:04
  were out of his control he
• 24:06
  went from a big camp to a
• 24:07
  little camp and actually talked about how
• 24:13
  it took him back to like the
• 24:15
  start with the smaller camp
• 24:18
  and that he actually really enjoyed it.
• 24:22
  What do you think the
• 24:23
  capacity is for an elite CrossFit coach?
• 24:37
  Are we defining
• 24:41
  elite as all athletes should
• 24:45
  potentially should more
• 24:46
  than likely make the games
• 24:49
  I think an elite crossfit
• 24:50
  coach are is someone
• 24:52
  training people who want to
• 24:54
  make the games and our
• 24:56
  semi-final athletes are better um
• 25:11
  I mean, I think that the,
• 25:13
  my honest answer to that would be,
• 25:15
  it depends on how many
• 25:18
  athletes they coach in general, right?
• 25:21
  If you,
• 25:23
  and this might be me and I might be
• 25:25
  totally wrong,
• 25:26
  but if I only coached
• 25:29
  exclusively semifinals
• 25:31
  level in games athletes,
• 25:33
  and I had nothing else to do with my time,
• 25:35
  I didn't coach in an affiliate.
• 25:37
  I didn't do any of that stuff.
• 25:44
  two or three games athletes
• 25:46
  or one in a team and then
• 25:50
  several semifinals athletes?
• 25:54
  It's not the nuts and bolts,
• 25:56
  at least to me.
• 25:57
  Making people better at
• 25:58
  exercising fast is really
• 25:59
  not that complicated, in my opinion.
• 26:02
  yes,
• 26:02
  I'm a freaking super nerd and I've
• 26:03
  been doing this for a long time,
• 26:05
  just not at this level, but like,
• 26:07
  that's not hard.
• 26:08
  What's hard is, oh,
• 26:09
  you're taking five people
• 26:11
  to semifinals in the
• 26:13
  freaking female division
• 26:15
  and they all want to go to the games.
• 26:16
  That's fucking hard.
• 26:17
  Like, what are you supposed to do?
• 26:19
  You know what I mean?
• 26:20
  So I think that's more the thing,
• 26:22
  at least in my opinion, versus just like,
• 26:28
  watching people do fitness
• 26:29
  figuring out what they need
• 26:30
  to do to do it faster
• 26:32
  having conversations and
• 26:33
  then writing program
• 26:34
  designed to do that like
• 26:36
  that's not that hard in my
• 26:39
  opinion so truly the hard
• 26:42
  thing is supporting
• 26:43
  yourself in this endeavor
• 26:45
  and that you have to take
• 26:46
  on even more to be able to
• 26:49
  do that well I mean
• 26:51
  depending on the coach in
• 26:52
  the situation right like
• 26:53
  yeah um but I also like
• 26:58
  I love coaching people who
• 27:00
  are you know on the come up
• 27:04
  like um I I love coaching
• 27:07
  games athletes and
• 27:08
  semifinals athlete like I
• 27:09
  just love coaching people
• 27:09
  right like um but it's not
• 27:12
  like I love coaching
• 27:13
  because I love coaching not
• 27:15
  because it's like sure the
• 27:17
  stakes are higher I guess
• 27:19
  or the performance metrics
• 27:20
  are higher but it's not like
• 27:24
  I just want to coach games athletes.
• 27:26
  Like those are really fun
• 27:27
  athletes to coach and it's exciting,
• 27:30
  but I want to make people better.
• 27:33
  I guess that's the,
• 27:34
  the intersection point for
• 27:35
  like the nerdy side of me
• 27:37
  and the coach side of me is like,
• 27:40
  what do I need to give them
• 27:41
  on the nerdy side and the
• 27:42
  programming side to help
• 27:43
  them reach their goal?
• 27:45
  Or what kind of
• 27:45
  conversations do we need to have?
• 27:46
  Or what do I need to teach
• 27:47
  them about the sport or like,
• 27:50
  You know, things like that.
• 27:51
  Like I have an athlete who
• 27:52
  goes to our affiliate,
• 27:53
  just as an easy example.
• 27:55
  He goes to our affiliate.
• 27:56
  He's a one-on-one athlete of mine.
• 27:58
  And we've been working
• 27:59
  together for like a year.
• 28:00
  He's gotten so much better
• 28:02
  at so many things.
• 28:03
  And we've gotten to this
• 28:04
  kind of funny point in his
• 28:06
  training where he can kind
• 28:07
  of do most stuff in good size sets, this,
• 28:12
  that, and the other.
• 28:13
  And he's a taller athlete.
• 28:14
  He's about my height,
• 28:16
  maybe a smidge taller.
• 28:18
  And I was watching him train
• 28:19
  one day and I walked up to him and I said,
• 28:20
  Hey man, you got to go faster.
• 28:25
  But he had never gotten to
• 28:27
  that point where he could
• 28:28
  do the stuff and then try
• 28:31
  to do it faster.
• 28:32
  Right.
• 28:32
  But it was like, that's where we're at.
• 28:34
  Like,
• 28:35
  like we don't need some super secret
• 28:37
  sauce.
• 28:39
  fitness protocol right now
• 28:40
  like we're making sure
• 28:42
  we're dotting our I's and
• 28:43
  crossing our T's on like
• 28:44
  his weaknesses but I need
• 28:47
  you to learn how to go fast
• 28:51
  because now you can do the
• 28:52
  stuff but you need to be
• 28:52
  able to do it faster right
• 28:55
  and that's like every
• 28:57
  athlete at semifinals at
• 28:58
  games level understands
• 28:59
  they need to be moving very
• 29:01
  quickly right it's just
• 29:02
  like in them at that
• 29:04
  so it's like there's
• 29:05
  different learning curves
• 29:06
  and things like that so I
• 29:07
  guess it's a very not short
• 29:09
  answer and kind of a loose
• 29:11
  answer at that to how many
• 29:14
  games athletes uh but I
• 29:16
  think it or semifinals
• 29:17
  Elite Games athletes but I
• 29:19
  think it comes down to a
• 29:20
  lot of the situation right
• 29:21
  like are they in the same
• 29:22
  region are they at the same
• 29:24
  level are they both male
• 29:26
  are they both female like
• 29:29
  know are is one of them on a
• 29:31
  team you know do you coach
• 29:32
  a team of people and an
• 29:33
  individual like do you need
• 29:36
  to coach other athletes to
• 29:38
  support yourself as a coach
• 29:39
  well you know and grow a
• 29:41
  brand or a business or
• 29:43
  there's just so many things
• 29:44
  that can play into that but
• 29:45
  I so I think it varies I i
• 29:49
  it would be very difficult
• 29:51
  I think to coach I don't
• 29:53
  know three people at the
• 29:56
  games like that would be pretty nuts
• 30:00
  But I think a lot of that,
• 30:02
  and maybe this is just me as a coach,
• 30:05
  because I do get pretty
• 30:06
  invested in people, is like,
• 30:09
  how am I emotionally going
• 30:11
  to be able to cheer for
• 30:12
  these people all going
• 30:13
  against each other at the same time?
• 30:14
  Like, it's just, you know what I mean?
• 30:15
  Like, if you had three guys or three girls,
• 30:17
  like, fuck, like,
• 30:18
  what am I supposed to do here?
• 30:21
  So that could be tough.
• 30:23
  Yeah.
• 30:24
  Because then when they come off the floor,
• 30:25
  they're all going to come to you.
• 30:28
  Right.
• 30:30
  So it's like one's happy,
• 30:32
  one's sad and one's meh.
• 30:35
  Right.
• 30:35
  And it's just like, you know,
• 30:37
  you can get better at like the, you know,
• 30:40
  kind of changing your face
• 30:41
  and all that stuff and
• 30:42
  meeting them where they are,
• 30:43
  like with communication
• 30:45
  experience and stuff like that.
• 30:46
  But it's still logistically at some point,
• 30:49
  it's going to be a problem.
• 30:50
  Like somebody is warming up.
• 30:51
  Somebody's going on the floor.
• 30:52
  Somebody is not even here yet.
• 30:53
  Somebody needs you to get them this.
• 30:54
  Somebody like it could be pretty crazy.
• 30:57
  So.
• 30:58
  I think less is,
• 31:03
  I think it's almost natural,
• 31:04
  like the funnel of performance.
• 31:07
  There are going to be less
• 31:08
  people who can do certain things, right?
• 31:12
  Like just as we, from training,
• 31:15
  training age, genetics, whatever.
• 31:17
  So I almost think it's kind
• 31:18
  of like the more you're
• 31:19
  working with people at that tippy top,
• 31:23
  the more people you have there,
• 31:24
  it starts to become more difficult.
• 31:27
  Right.
• 31:29
  Well,
• 31:29
  that answer gave me like 17 follow-ups.
• 31:33
  We can do a couple if you want.
• 31:35
  But I need to hop on with
• 31:36
  Carolyn in a half an hour
• 31:37
  to preview the games.
• 31:41
  I love chatting with you.
• 31:44
  I'm going to leave on this one note.
• 31:47
  When I was getting my MBA,
• 31:50
  there was this theory that
• 31:51
  there are two types of leaders mentors.
• 31:55
  There's the mentor leader who
• 31:58
  likes to polish the diamond,
• 32:00
  like the diamond's there,
• 32:02
  it's been constructed,
• 32:04
  but it just needs a little
• 32:06
  bit of shine to get it over the edge,
• 32:08
  right?
• 32:09
  And then there's the other
• 32:10
  kind who likes to take the
• 32:12
  piece of coal and mold that
• 32:14
  diamond themselves.
• 32:15
  Right.
• 32:18
  And the theory is that you can't be both.
• 32:21
  You're either one or the other.
• 32:24
  Which one are you?
• 32:38
  You're going to hate me,
• 32:39
  but I'm going to say when I
• 32:40
  get Jacob into the games,
• 32:41
  I'm going to say I'm both.
• 32:44
  Okay.
• 32:46
  It was a theory.
• 32:47
  You can bust theories.
• 32:49
  I don't buy into that entirely.
• 32:50
  I totally get because it's
• 32:54
  two different kinds of people.
• 32:56
  One's a precision instrument
• 32:58
  and one's a blunt force instrument.
• 33:01
  But it depends on the person.
• 33:05
  You can choose what
• 33:06
  instrument you need to be.
• 33:09
  right if you have the
• 33:10
  capacity to like be aware
• 33:12
  of it so like I'm not the
• 33:20
  best at self-categorizing
• 33:21
  myself which is probably
• 33:22
  why I want a scapegoat
• 33:23
  answer and say both uh I
• 33:26
  also don't know that I
• 33:29
  don't know if I feel like
• 33:30
  I'm a polisher or a like a breaker like
• 33:36
  Because it's all an
• 33:39
  iterative process on a spectrum.
• 33:43
  So can I tell you what I think you are?
• 33:46
  Sure.
• 33:48
  So I think you're more the latter.
• 33:50
  A polisher?
• 33:52
  No.
• 33:53
  You're a build people up.
• 33:56
  I can see justification for that.
• 33:58
  If you look at your stable of athletes,
• 34:01
  you've never started with,
• 34:05
  what most people in the
• 34:06
  industry would call a diamond.
• 34:09
  Sure.
• 34:10
  Kelly never made the games before.
• 34:12
  Right.
• 34:15
  How do you can, you know,
• 34:15
  never made the games before
• 34:19
  and you've taken them from
• 34:20
  that and you've built them
• 34:22
  into something special.
• 34:23
  Yeah.
• 34:26
  So if you take Jacob to the games,
• 34:28
  I think you're doing the
• 34:29
  same thing you've done.
• 34:31
  Sure.
• 34:32
  You've not,
• 34:32
  you've not been given the
• 34:33
  opportunity for say,
• 34:37
  I'm just going to – Ariel
• 34:38
  Lowen wants to coach all of
• 34:39
  a sudden and comes over, right?
• 34:41
  That's a completely
• 34:43
  different starting point
• 34:45
  than you've ever been in as a coach.
• 34:47
  Yeah.
• 34:48
  Yeah, it's a way different starting point.
• 34:51
  Right.
• 34:52
  Yeah.
• 34:52
  And it's not that those –
• 34:54
  that Kelly and Hattie and
• 34:56
  Madison weren't great
• 34:57
  athletes before you got them.
• 34:59
  Yeah, freaks.
• 35:01
  They just needed their
• 35:02
  clarity fixed up and their –
• 35:05
  cut fixed up you know what I
• 35:06
  mean like right right right
• 35:08
  it was a little more than
• 35:09
  just a polish right was
• 35:11
  that makes that's where I
• 35:14
  think you are I can see
• 35:16
  that I'm good with it but I
• 35:19
  think in your mind you
• 35:20
  think you thought they were
• 35:21
  great when they came to you
• 35:23
  well yes I do right yeah
• 35:26
  right so but it I and I
• 35:29
  think they're great too
• 35:30
  I've I've been a fan of
• 35:31
  kelly's for a long time
• 35:33
  And Hattie,
• 35:34
  you know how I feel about Hattie.
• 35:36
  She's the best.
• 35:38
  But the industry,
• 35:39
  if I was to go to Tommy
• 35:42
  Marquez and to John Young,
• 35:45
  you're going to hear stuff
• 35:47
  that they don't like.
• 35:48
  Sure.
• 35:50
  Right?
• 35:51
  Right.
• 35:52
  So that's where I think you are.
• 35:55
  And that's why I think you're so cool.
• 35:57
  Thank you.
• 36:00
  Well, this has been fun, man.
• 36:01
  I can't wait to see you in person.
• 36:03
  Yeah, seriously.
• 36:04
  I can't wait to see you.
• 36:05
  Yeah,
• 36:05
  so I'll be over there tomorrow at the
• 36:07
  venue.
• 36:07
  Sweet.
• 36:08
  Got in too late to get my
• 36:09
  credentials and go to
• 36:12
  immediate orientation.
• 36:13
  So I don't even know where
• 36:14
  I'm allowed to be yet.
• 36:15
  Just going to figure it out on the fly.
• 36:17
  Yeah.
• 36:18
  That's all good.
• 36:19
  That's how we roll most of
• 36:20
  the time anyway.
• 36:22
  Sometimes that's just how it's better.
• 36:23
  Just be adaptable.
• 36:27
  Yeah, just go do my thing.
• 36:28
  Just hope there's a seat
• 36:30
  left for me to sit in.
• 36:33
  I'm sure there will be a seat.
• 36:36
  All right, Tristan.
• 36:37
  Well, thank you so much.
• 36:38
  Good luck to you and Hattie this weekend.
• 36:40
  I'll be rooting from the stands,
• 36:43
  getting some pictures.
• 36:45
  And I can't wait to see you over there.
• 36:48
  Can't wait to see you, man.
• 36:49
  With that,
• 36:50
  we will see everybody next time.
• 36:52
  Glad Cell Media Podcast.
• 36:54
  Bye, guys.