Latest / Stories That Live In Us / Moments of Really Beautiful Things (IAJGS LIVE) | Episode 26
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- 0:01Crista Cowan: Stories that Live In Us is a podcast that inspires you to form deep connections with your family, past, present and future.
- 0:09Crista Cowan: I'm Crista Cowan, known online as T he Barefoot Genealogist.
- 0:13Crista Cowan: I've spent my whole life discovering the power of family history and I know that sharing the stories that live in you can change everything.
- 0:23Crista Cowan: Back in 2001, when I first decided to become a professional genealogist, I knew a lot about how to research my own family history.
- 0:31Crista Cowan: But, like all things, one of the things I didn't know was what I didn't know.
- 0:35Crista Cowan: When I started advertising to get clients, I did it in my aunt's store in Los Angeles.
- 0:43Crista Cowan: Two of my dad's sisters own a gift shop and it's in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, and so one of the things that happened was I immediately started getting Jewish clients and I knew nothing about Jewish family history research.
- 0:57Crista Cowan: So I went out and found a mentor, I started reading books, I took a couple classes and now here, decades later, I am one of the specialists in Jewish immigration to America, and because of that specialty in how I research, I've been able to be involved with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies for nearly two decades now, the last six years or so on the board of directors for the IAJGS.
- 1:33Crista Cowan: Now, every summer we hold a conference somewhere in the world, and this year the conference was in Philadelphia and as part of the conference, the conference committee asked me to come and present a live recording of my podcast in front of an audience.
- 1:54Crista Cowan: It's the first time I've ever done anything like that, so the video you're going to see if you watch this on video is going to be a little different than normal.
- 2:01Crista Cowan: We recorded it on my phone.
- 2:03Crista Cowan: But the story that I tell is a story that is probably one of the most impactful experiences I've had participating in this particular conference over the years, so I hope you enjoy.
- 2:17Crista Cowan: I had the opportunity several years ago, along with some of you, to attend the Jewish Genealogy Conference that was held in Paris.
- 2:26Crista Cowan: How many of you were there that year?
- 2:28Crista Cowan: Okay, that was a wonderful experience.
- 2:32Crista Cowan: I actually flew in four days early and, after flying on a red-eye all night long, picked up a rental car at 6.30 in the morning and headed for Geneva, Switzerland, by myself, without GPS, and as I got to Geneva, I'm a little bit of an impromptu person Any of you who have worked with me in any volunteer capacity know that about me.
- 2:59Crista Cowan: I didn't have any hotel reservations, I didn't have any plans at all.
- 3:04Crista Cowan: I just knew I had to be back in Paris in four days.
- 3:06Crista Cowan: And I got to Geneva with no GPS and pulled into a McDonald's parking lot so I could get Wi-Fi and started looking for a hotel.
- 3:16Crista Cowan: And there were no hotels and that was a little bit challenging.
- 3:21Crista Cowan: And so finally I walked into.
- 3:24Crista Cowan: I found a Marriott, went into the Marriott and asked them you know, like what is happening in town?
- 3:28Crista Cowan: Why is there not a hotel room to be found?
- 3:30Crista Cowan: And they told me there was some soccer tournament happening football tournament, whatever they call it and so it would be best if I drove around the lake and looked for some little like bed and breakfasts or inns, and that they might have some rooms.
- 3:49Crista Cowan: This was after about an hour of searching online and another hour of driving around the city.
- 3:54Crista Cowan: So I started driving around Lake Geneva and found a couple little inns and I'd pull in and I'd go in, and, sure enough, no rooms available, no rooms available, no rooms available.
- 4:07Crista Cowan: One of them finally said well, you know what?
- 4:10Crista Cowan: You might as well eat dinner here.
- 4:11Crista Cowan: It's eight o'clock at night and nine o'clock at night, we're going to close the restaurant soon, and so I had dinner and then set off again, and at about midnight now, keeping in mind I'd flown all night, driven all day, been apartment hunting.
- 4:30Crista Cowan: What I didn't tell you is that the night before I left I had taken two days to drive from Salt Lake City down to Los Angeles because I had to renew my passport.
- 4:42Crista Cowan: So I actually hadn't slept in three days and I was exhausted and a little bit hysterical, and so I just found like a rest stop, pulled my car into the rest stop.
- 4:58Crista Cowan: Now, if any of you have ever driven in Europe, you know the cars are tiny and I was going to sleep in the backseat the non-existent backseat and I am not a small woman.
- 5:09Crista Cowan: So I climbed into the backseat and curled up a little after midnight and managed to get some fitful sleep for about three or four hours when all of a sudden, a Volkswagen converted camper van full of drunk Germans pulled in next to me, being very loud and a little bit scary when you're a woman alone and a little disoriented, and all I could think about was I need to get out of the car and into the front, out of the back seat and into the front seat before they notice me, so that I can go somewhere else.
- 5:43Crista Cowan: And I managed to do that.
- 5:45Crista Cowan: And then I thought, well, I might as well just keep driving.
- 5:48Crista Cowan: And what I knew was I wasn't very far from Zermatt, because in Zermatt is this mountain called Matterhorn.
- 5:58Crista Cowan: Yeah right, and I grew up in Southern California and love me some Disney.
- 6:01Crista Cowan: So I thought I'm going to go see this mountain.
- 6:03Crista Cowan: So I went around the rest of the lake and took the left turn to go up the valley and it was beautiful, the sun was rising and it was just gorgeous.
- 6:17Crista Cowan: And then I followed this little bakery truck up the turn, up the little mountain road.
- 6:23Crista Cowan: At one point we were driving on boards over creeks.
- 6:26Crista Cowan: I just thought I'm going the right way.
- 6:28Crista Cowan: I didn't have GPS, but I looked at a map and I have a pretty good memory.
- 6:32Crista Cowan: Ended up in this little town and all of a sudden I have people yelling at my car Because what I didn't know is that you're not supposed to drive there.
- 6:41Crista Cowan: The only people allowed to drive into that little village are people who are delivery drivers.
- 6:45Crista Cowan: You're supposed to park at the bottom of the mountain and take the tram up and so they were yelling at me to turn around.
- 6:51Crista Cowan: I took a picture and left and then I thought, okay, maybe I want to go to Italy.
- 6:56Crista Cowan: So I drove to Italy, went to Milan and then up to Lake Como and ended up spending the rest of my time in Lake Como and it was delightful.
- 7:10Crista Cowan: I want to go back with people.
- 7:12Crista Cowan: I was by myself, drove back along the French Riviera.
- 7:17Crista Cowan: It was lovely.
- 7:18Crista Cowan: I took wrong turn turn in Marseille on Bastille Day.
- 7:23Crista Cowan: Got stuck in traffic.
- 7:32Crista Cowan: It was not great.
- 7:32Crista Cowan: Finally figured out my way, made my way to Lyon because I had to get back to Paris, because the conference was started on Sunday and I was speaking at 9am and I pulled off the mountain into Lyon just as the Bastille Day fireworks went off over the castle.
- 7:47Crista Cowan: Like it was a moment.
- 7:49Crista Cowan: And in that moment here's what I realized Sometimes the spontaneous adventures are worth it.
- 8:00Crista Cowan: No matter how tired you are, no matter how frustrated you may have been, there are moments that are just it.
- 8:04Crista Cowan: Just brilliant.
- 8:08Crista Cowan: The moment that I was on the ferry going from my hotel on Lake Como.
- 8:16Crista Cowan: That was a moment.
- 8:19Crista Cowan: The moment I pulled off that mountain and saw the fireworks go off over the castle in Lyon.
- 8:24Crista Cowan: That was a moment.
- 8:27Crista Cowan: And I think that that's a lot like life that sometimes we think, oh, we're just so in it and things are hard and hard, things happen and life is messy and families are messy.
- 8:37Crista Cowan: I talked to somebody today I think she's in here who said she has a daughter-in-law who doesn't talk to her but gratefully she lets her talk to her grandchild.
- 8:49Crista Cowan: I have another dear friend who, I just learned, lost her vision or is losing her vision and all the hard things you have to deal through, go through with that.
- 9:00Crista Cowan: We just came through COVID and all of the ensuing pandemic messiness that really kind of harmed some of us in different ways.
- 9:12Crista Cowan: And yet there are moments that are beautiful and brilliant and we just have to, I think, appreciate those moments for what they are.
- 9:23Crista Cowan: That's what I learned in that moment.
- 9:27Crista Cowan: I made my way the rest of the way to Paris.
- 9:29Crista Cowan: I rolled into the hotel at about 2, 2.30 in the morning.
- 9:32Crista Cowan: I walked up to check into the Marriott and the lady at the desk said you're Miss Cowan and I said yes.
- 9:38Crista Cowan: She said people are looking for you, okay, and she said no, people have been looking for you, okay.
- 9:50Crista Cowan: And I said, well, I told people that I was not arriving until Saturday evening, but I'm only a few hours late, like why the panic?
- 9:54Crista Cowan: And she said you're speaking in the morning and I said yes, but I'm here Still, like seven hours away.
- 10:02Crista Cowan: Anyway, I got up the next morning and presented what I was presenting and then for the remainder of the conference I think I had one more presentation.
- 10:11Crista Cowan: I sat at a table in the exhibit hall, much like I'm doing here this week.
- 10:20Crista Cowan: Ancestry shows up in a really big way at RootsTech but at all the other conferences, like they send me and sometimes I speak and sometimes I don't, but almost always I'm sitting at a table and I love being there because I get to see so many of you and you come up to me and you share your stories and you ask your questions and some of you yell at me.
- 10:43Crista Cowan: I don't love that so much.
- 10:45Crista Cowan: No, I get that you're frustrated in life, like there is frustration, and you're frustrated because you care.
- 10:53Crista Cowan: You're frustrated because you're passionate, you're frustrated because you want it to work.
- 10:57Crista Cowan: You're frustrated because you are the story keeper and you take that role seriously and I appreciate that.
- 11:05Crista Cowan: And so I sit at a table and I answer your questions and I listen to your stories, and sometimes I'm hungry and sometimes I haven't been able to go to the bathroom for three hours and sometimes I need to just like take a minute because I am, believe it or not, an introvert.
- 11:23Crista Cowan: I know that shocks some of you.
- 11:26Crista Cowan: I love people, but it's draining to me, and so I just need a quiet moment to just regroup and re-energize.
- 11:36Crista Cowan: And so I sit at the table because that's where I want to be and that's what I did in Paris.
- 11:42Crista Cowan: I came and I sat at the table and, interestingly enough, in Paris, even as many of you as were there, there were a lot of people there who did not speak English really well and they would come up and ask me questions and I would try to help, and I got frustrated sometimes and they got frustrated sometimes, but we muddled our way through.
- 12:02Crista Cowan: Well, after my second presentation, which was all about how to use Ancestry, a line formed at my table.
- 12:09Crista Cowan: People were willing to wait for me and I thought okay, here we go.
- 12:14Crista Cowan: So the line formed at the table and there was this elderly woman who got in the line.
- 12:19Crista Cowan: I would guess that she was maybe 70, 75.
- 12:25Crista Cowan: I was to be fair, I was like 35 or 40 at the time.
- 12:36Crista Cowan: It felt elderly at the time.
- 12:39Crista Cowan: It's getting younger every day, believe me.
- 12:44Crista Cowan: And I watched her out of the corner of my eye because there was an interesting thing happening.
- 12:48Crista Cowan: Every time somebody else would come, get in line, she would step behind them.
- 12:53Crista Cowan: So she was at the end of the line and this happened like probably for a half an hour.
- 13:01Crista Cowan: She would step to the end of the line and she probably ended up stepping behind about 10 people ultimately.
- 13:10Crista Cowan: And I sat at that table and answered questions for those people in that line for a good two hours and she stood in that line and waited for me and finally nobody else came and she was getting closer and closer and my curiosity was getting higher and higher because I'm thinking what is happening here?
- 13:31Crista Cowan: Finally, she was the last one in line and I had a chair across the table from me and she just plopped down into the chair and I thought no kidding lady, I keep standing here for two hours and I said hi, I'm Crista.
- 13:49Crista Cowan: And she introduced herself to me and I won't use her name because I did not get her permission to share this story and so I want to keep it a little bit anonymized.
- 13:58Crista Cowan: And she introduced herself to me in broken English and then she asked me in French if I spoke French and I replied in broken French that no, I did not.
- 14:11Crista Cowan: And she kind of sighed a little bit and then said okay, I'll try in English.
- 14:19Crista Cowan: And she proceeded to tell me a story and I have become the keeper of this story and now I try to tell it as often as I can.
- 14:34Crista Cowan: And I'm so grateful now that I have this platform to tell it, because, while she didn't tell me I could share the details of her identity.
- 14:43Crista Cowan: She said I need people to know this story and I need you to help me understand this story.
- 14:50Crista Cowan: And I said okay.
- 14:51Crista Cowan: So here's the story.
- 15:00Crista Cowan: Her family was from Poland and her parents had both been born and raised there, and she and her younger sister had both been born there.
- 15:05Crista Cowan: And when she and her sister were about three and six years old, her parents had the foresight to get them out of Poland and move them to the south of France, and they moved to the south of France, and while they did suffer some during World War II, they were spared During the whole decade that they lived in France, and then, through the war, her mother would write letters back home to Poland trying to keep in touch with her family, but also trying to not let them know exactly where they were.
- 15:45Crista Cowan: And so that was tricky.
- 15:47Crista Cowan: It sometimes involved like relaying letters into other places that then could get mailed from there into Germany, because her parents, just for whatever reason, had this like even you know, through the late 1930s, this heightened sense of security that they wanted to keep their daughter safe.
- 16:11Crista Cowan: And so she told me this.
- 16:12Crista Cowan: And then she said my mother's entire family perished At some point.
- 16:20Crista Cowan: Like the letters just stopped coming.
- 16:22Crista Cowan: And she said and I have spent the last part of my life trying to find out what happened to every single one of them, and that's why she was at the conference.
- 16:34Crista Cowan: She wanted to make sure that everyone was named and everyone was accounted for.
- 16:39Crista Cowan: And then she just started rattling off in French and I kind of looked at her and then she realized she was speaking in French and she goes oh, pardon, pardon, I have two uncles and she goes oh, pardon, pardon, I have two uncles.
- 17:00Crista Cowan: And I said okay, and she said my mother's two uncles.
- 17:05Crista Cowan: Okay, they went to America.
- 17:09Crista Cowan: Yeah, they went to America sometime in the 1910s and then they came back to Poland and they perished with the rest of the family.
- 17:32Crista Cowan: And I am so angry, I want to know why.
- 17:37Crista Cowan: Can you help me?
- 17:40Crista Cowan: How do you respond?
- 17:45Crista Cowan: I mean, I can find a record, maybe, but does the record tell the story?
- 17:54Crista Cowan: Sometimes I can find a record, maybe, but does the record tell the story?
- 18:00Crista Cowan: Sometimes?
- 18:00Crista Cowan: Sometimes enough of the records tell the story, but can you answer a question like that?
- 18:03Crista Cowan: They came back.
- 18:06Crista Cowan: I am so angry and I want to know why.
- 18:10Crista Cowan: I don't know if I can answer that question.
- 18:15Crista Cowan: She said if they had just stayed in America, I would not be all alone in the world.
- 18:23Crista Cowan: And in that moment my heart broke for her as she like just tumbled out more words about how her sister had married but never had children, and she had never married and her sister had died a few years earlier and she felt like she was completely alone in the world because they had no other family.
- 18:53Crista Cowan: And I thought how do I help this woman?
- 18:56Crista Cowan: Like I'm just a genealogist.
- 18:59Crista Cowan: And so I thought, okay, like let's at least find something out about them.
- 19:05Crista Cowan: And I said, tell me again.
- 19:08Crista Cowan: When they went to America.
- 19:10Crista Cowan: And she started rifling through her bag and pulled out this folder and started rifling through some papers and she said I have this letter where one of my mom's cousins talked about the uncles, and when they had come back, and I said, okay, what year did they come back?
- 19:31Crista Cowan: Okay, what year did they come back?
- 19:33Crista Cowan: Let's start there.
- 19:34Crista Cowan: And they had gone back in 1933.
- 19:38Crista Cowan: What?
- 19:39Crista Cowan: Okay, let's dig into this.
- 19:43Crista Cowan: That means they were probably in America in 1930.
- 19:51Crista Cowan: So we went to the 1930 census and we found them and there they were, living in Chicago, and they were both still single.
- 20:00Crista Cowan: One was, I think, in his late 20s, one was in his early 30s.
- 20:04Crista Cowan: Two bachelor men living together in Chicago.
- 20:11Crista Cowan: Okay, but the 1930 census tells us what the year of immigration and the naturalization status.
- 20:17Crista Cowan: They were both still listed as alien citizens, but it listed their year of immigration and they had actually been in the United States for over a decade.
- 20:29Crista Cowan: Okay, let's find them in the 1920 census.
- 20:31Crista Cowan: 1920 census is a little trickier.
- 20:33Crista Cowan: Anybody experience that, that 1920 census?
- 20:36Crista Cowan: Right, the world had just come out of World War.
- 20:38Crista Cowan: I I think there was.
- 20:40Crista Cowan: I don't know what the chaos was.
- 20:41Crista Cowan: I still have a set of great-grandparents I have not found in the 1920 census and I have done.
- 20:47Crista Cowan: If anybody knows how to find people in the census, it is me.
- 20:49Crista Cowan: I pride myself on that.
- 20:51Crista Cowan: I have used every trick I know and I am convinced that they were just not enumerated.
- 20:57Crista Cowan: And I don't say that lightly because I think a lot of people give up early and say, oh, they just weren't enumerated, oh, the census taker just skipped them.
- 21:04Crista Cowan: No, their name was just probably spelled wrong or they're not living where you think they should be living or something.
- 21:10Crista Cowan: But I thought, okay, here we go into the 1920 census in Chicago.
- 21:15Crista Cowan: And it took a little doing to find them.
- 21:18Crista Cowan: And she sat there patiently just watching my fingers fly and didn't say a word and just kind of leaned in and I was looking and I'm talking to myself and she did not interrupt me, she did not try to tell me more stories, she was all in on this experience, just watching, and it took me.
- 21:38Crista Cowan: As a matter of fact, I think the exhibit hall officially closed while we were sitting there and I didn't care, I was not moving from that seat, finally found them and they were living in a boarding house they had.
- 21:54Crista Cowan: They were new, new in the country they had come in just like at the end of 1919.
- 22:01Crista Cowan: And so it made sense that they were living in this household.
- 22:04Crista Cowan: And I'm looking, of course, through every other name in that household Are they living with?
- 22:09Crista Cowan: And I asked her, I showed it to her Do you know any of these other names?
- 22:12Crista Cowan: Like, did these two men just came by themselves?
- 22:15Crista Cowan: Yep, okay, but the immigration year was consistent, and so we went and started going through passenger lists.
- 22:27Crista Cowan: Y'all know about trolling through passenger lists and at one point one of the conference organizers was like we need to close.
- 22:40Crista Cowan: And I was like just leave the door open, we're not moving.
- 22:44Crista Cowan: This woman stood in line waiting for me for two hours.
- 22:48Crista Cowan: I am not telling her to come back tomorrow.
- 22:49Crista Cowan: Okay, they did.
- 22:52Crista Cowan: And so we started looking through passenger lists and we found them.
- 23:01Crista Cowan: Now on the passenger list.
- 23:03Crista Cowan: You know this, it lists who you're coming to, and it said that they were coming to their brother-in-law, said that they were coming to their brother-in-law.
- 23:17Crista Cowan: Two unmarried men who are brothers to one another are coming to their brother-in-law.
- 23:24Crista Cowan: That means they have a sister, if it's correct, because sometimes people say, oh, I'm coming to a relative and they make up the relationship because that's how they're getting into the country.
- 23:42Crista Cowan: And I thought I said to her I said, did they have a sister?
- 23:44Crista Cowan: And she said I don't know of any sister.
- 23:46Crista Cowan: And I said, okay, well, let's see if we can find her.
- 23:48Crista Cowan: Let's see if we can find this brother-in-law.
- 23:51Crista Cowan: So we pull up the 1920 census and we look for the brother-in-law.
- 23:54Crista Cowan: So we pull up the 1920 census and we look for the brother-in-law and he lives in the neighborhood and he has a wife and they have two children.
- 24:04Crista Cowan: And I said do you know this name?
- 24:08Crista Cowan: And she said no.
- 24:09Crista Cowan: And I said I think it might be their sister.
- 24:11Crista Cowan: And she said are you sure?
- 24:13Crista Cowan: And I said no, no, I'm not.
- 24:15Crista Cowan: And she said are you sure?
- 24:16Crista Cowan: And I said no, no, I'm not.
- 24:16Crista Cowan: And she and I are both weeping and I said I don't know, let's see what we can find.
- 24:22Crista Cowan: And so I pull up the 1930 census and there's the brother-in-law with those same two children and four more children and a whole new wife, hold on.
- 24:32Crista Cowan: And I said let's see if we can find her.
- 24:38Crista Cowan: And so we started looking for death records and we found out she had died, but the index that I had available to me online in that moment did not list her maiden name.
- 24:49Crista Cowan: Okay, let's go back to that census.
- 24:54Crista Cowan: Is there any clue here about when she immigrated?
- 25:00Crista Cowan: Yes, is there any clue here about when they may have gotten married?
- 25:03Crista Cowan: Yes, turns out, the husband and wife.
- 25:07Crista Cowan: Their immigration years were different and, if I timelined it out, they probably got married after they got here.
- 25:19Crista Cowan: And so I went digging for a marriage record and I found it and the maiden name matched.
- 25:27Crista Cowan: And I told her, I said your mom had an aunt.
- 25:29Crista Cowan: And when we did the math we realized this aunt immigrated to the United States when she was 16 years old and it was long before the letter writing started.
- 25:39Crista Cowan: It was long before the family communication started and somehow this aunt got lost and they didn't even know she existed.
- 25:50Crista Cowan: And I'm running through all the connections in my head, I'm connecting the dots and I'm wondering if she is, because she's just sitting there weeping.
- 25:59Crista Cowan: And I said she had two children and all of a sudden, the reason why the uncles went back didn't matter so much anymore.
- 26:12Crista Cowan: The uncles went back didn't matter so much anymore, even though that was her original story she was seeking.
- 26:19Crista Cowan: All of a sudden she had this realization and she just started hugging me and she said I'm not alone.
- 26:26Crista Cowan: How do I find them?
- 26:27Crista Cowan: Okay, y'all, I think I sat there until about 9 o'clock at night and we went through subsequent census records and we traced those children.
- 26:41Crista Cowan: Of course, at the time the 1950 census wasn't out yet.
- 26:44Crista Cowan: That would have been super helpful, but we managed to find them in city directories.
- 26:49Crista Cowan: I did a few internet searches.
- 26:52Crista Cowan: We found death records for both of those children and in one case we found an obituary that listed their children.
- 27:04Crista Cowan: And she said how do I find them?
- 27:06Crista Cowan: Well, it just so happens I have a subscription to this little site called PeopleSearch.
- 27:12Crista Cowan: Here is their current phone number and address.
- 27:22Crista Cowan: And let's look on Facebook.
- 27:22Crista Cowan: And we managed to find two of them on Facebook and we managed to find current phone numbers and addresses.
- 27:26Crista Cowan: And she said can we call right now?
- 27:28Crista Cowan: I said you know what?
- 27:32Crista Cowan: It might be better if you sleep on it a little bit and then write them a letter and then call them after you've sent the letter and given it enough time to arrive, because some of this, like sometimes when we barge into people's lives.
- 27:45Crista Cowan: We've been looking for them for a really long time and we feel like we know them and they have no clue who we are.
- 27:52Crista Cowan: So it's always a good idea to give them a minute to kind of process the information.
- 27:56Crista Cowan: And she and I talked through that and she hugged me and she cried.
- 27:59Crista Cowan: And she hugged me and she cried and she rattled off some more in French and it didn't matter that I didn't know exactly what she was saying, because I knew what she meant and I went to bed and the next day she came and sought me out again.
- 28:17Crista Cowan: She didn't have to wait in a two-hour line this time.
- 28:20Crista Cowan: I actually asked her about that and she said I was embarrassed of my English and I didn't know if you could help me and I didn't want other people waiting on me.
- 28:35Crista Cowan: He said I get it, it's okay.
- 28:39Crista Cowan: And she said you said sleep on it.
- 28:42Crista Cowan: I slept on it.
- 28:43Crista Cowan: Can we call them today?
- 28:46Crista Cowan: And I said if that's what you want to do, you go right ahead.
- 28:52Crista Cowan: I said you just need what you want to do.
- 28:53Crista Cowan: You go right ahead.
- 28:54Crista Cowan: I said you just need to know there's a time difference and so maybe wait a few more hours.
- 28:59Crista Cowan: But she said I also want to write a letter.
- 29:03Crista Cowan: And I said okay, and she said, will you help me?
- 29:07Crista Cowan: Of course I will help you, and so I had the opportunity to help her write that letter.
- 29:17Crista Cowan: And then we just we wrote it to the family and then we just copied it and sent it to the addresses that we had.
- 29:28Crista Cowan: Now here's the sad thing I have no idea what happened next.
- 29:32Crista Cowan: Now, here's the sad thing.
- 29:34Crista Cowan: I have no idea what happened next.
- 29:37Crista Cowan: Here's what I do know.
- 29:44Crista Cowan: She told me she came back on the last day of the conference, which was, I think, the very next day, and she said I'm going to Chicago.
- 29:51Crista Cowan: And I went, did you call them?
- 29:56Crista Cowan: And she goes, not yet.
- 29:57Crista Cowan: Okay, I said have you ever been to the United States?
- 30:01Crista Cowan: Nope, but I'm going to Chicago.
- 30:01Crista Cowan: Right, that's exactly exactly what I thought.
- 30:06Crista Cowan: I thought you know what, what you don't know, ladies, at the beginning of this week I just hopped in a car at the Paris airport and spent four days driving all over creation.
- 30:23Crista Cowan: I understand having no plan and sometimes, when you have no plan, there is still frustration and exhaustion, there are still hard things that happen, but there are moments of really beautiful things, and she was so determined that, even though I did not keep in touch with her, I have no doubt she made it to Chicago and I hope that family embraced her and I hope that they became the recipients of all of the work that she had done about their family, because she thought she had no one left in the world.
- 30:58Crista Cowan: And it turns out that she did.
- 31:01Crista Cowan: As we share our family stories, that is what we are cultivating.
- 31:08Crista Cowan: We are cultivating an environment that lets people know that they are not alone in the world.
- 31:13Crista Cowan: We are cultivating an environment that lets people know that they are not alone in the world, and I hope we're also cultivating interest in the next generation and the one after that that they will become the next generation of story keepers and storytellers.
- 31:27Crista Cowan: Thank you.