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Happy “Nuclear Family Month!” How Some States Are Hijacking Pride · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, June twenty eighth, and
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  Speaker 1: happy Pride. Yes, you're in the midst of Pride month,
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  Speaker 1: but today is a big day all over the country
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  Speaker 1: with pride celebrations. But don't tell that to the governors
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  Speaker 1: of Indiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Utah, or Arkansas. And also don't
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  Speaker 1: tell that to the President of the United States. And
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  Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 1: We're in the middle of New York, so pride. We're
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  Speaker 1: inundated with pride in a way here that I think
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  Speaker 1: certainly growing up I wasn't and a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: around the country aren't. But this is a huge day
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  Speaker 1: here in New.
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  Speaker 2: York, Yes, and our kids are growing up in and
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  Speaker 2: all around it, and we love it. In fact, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be heading out to take in a bit
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  Speaker 2: of the parade later today with all of our kids
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  Speaker 2: in tow In fact, we're having a little pre party
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  Speaker 2: here at the apartment before everyone heads out, because it
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  Speaker 2: is a day of celebrating love. Whatever that looks like
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 1: You know what. People would take issue with that, but
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  Speaker 1: that's right. That's the basis of the holiday that goes
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  Speaker 1: back in history. We'll get into a little bit here,
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  Speaker 1: but Barrows, it never leads with that when people talk
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  Speaker 1: about what Pride Month is, it is a celebration of love.
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  Speaker 3: But you never hear that it's so sad, because never
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  Speaker 3: hear it first.
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  Speaker 2: You know. We actually just got the opportunity to sit
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  Speaker 2: down for I Do Part two, another podcast that we host,
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  Speaker 2: and it's all about love the second time around, and
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  Speaker 2: we got to talk to Captain Sandy from Below Deck
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  Speaker 2: and her wife.
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  Speaker 3: But they were talking.
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  Speaker 2: About that people get so focused on the sex part
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  Speaker 2: of it and they don't focus on the love part
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 3: And if everybody could just.
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  Speaker 2: Take the sex out of it, Fine, you don't understand it, Fine,
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  Speaker 2: it grosses you out, Fine, it's not what you're into.
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  Speaker 3: That's all okay. But if you can just focus on the.
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  Speaker 2: Love part of it, it might change the way you
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  Speaker 2: view this month and maybe view the parades and the
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  Speaker 2: excitement and the joy. And there's a lot of joy
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  Speaker 2: that you see expressed during this month and during this
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  Speaker 2: parade here in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Usually more than I can deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's and you're surrounded by women and other i would say,
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  Speaker 2: gay men, and we have some heterosexual men who join
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  Speaker 2: the group sometimes too. Look, it's inclusive, it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. It's a good times.
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  Speaker 1: It is joy, it is and it is frankly Pride.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see people celebrate love like this and many
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  Speaker 1: other relationships in this way because this is a love
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  Speaker 1: that people have been telling them they shouldn't have, that
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  Speaker 1: is unnatural and they've had to fight for. And when
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  Speaker 1: you have to fight for a role, you do have
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  Speaker 1: a different attitude and a different level of celebration when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to and yes, I'm there for the fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's a damn good time. I dare anybody to come
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  Speaker 1: with us to the Pride parade celebrations today and not go,
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  Speaker 1: Holy hell, this is a hoot.
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  Speaker 3: It is and look, it's funny you actually said that.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought about this, and that to take away
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  Speaker 2: from the struggle, and we'll get into it or any
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  Speaker 2: of the hate and the continued criticism that so many
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  Speaker 2: different groups get, but certainly gay groups get in varying
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  Speaker 2: degrees from varying places and people. But anyone who's been
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship that isn't conventional, and you and I
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  Speaker 2: would fit that one hundred percent an interracial couple. Anyone
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  Speaker 2: who knows what it feels like to be told your
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  Speaker 2: love isn't natural, your love isn't normal, your love isn't accepted.
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  Speaker 2: You can understand why this month and a parade and
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  Speaker 2: a display of that love is important.
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  Speaker 1: And there is the challenge. You mean, yes, historically, all right,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't had to face the challenges that the Love
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  Speaker 1: Versus Virginia couple did. Right, it was literally illegal and
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  Speaker 1: you could die for being in an interracial relationship. We, however,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people do ropes. It
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  Speaker 1: comes with shame. If your love doesn't look like what
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  Speaker 1: some group in Alabama is telling you. Love and marriage,
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  Speaker 1: family it's supposed to look like, it's supposed to look
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  Speaker 1: like a very traditional thing, and what you're divorced. And
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  Speaker 1: that means nope, you're not. This is no longer family values,
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  Speaker 1: you're no longer of the right.
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  Speaker 3: You're part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get labeled if it does, if it's not
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  Speaker 1: a certain thing. And here's the thing, none of us
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  Speaker 1: have this traditional thing. It's just some people think they
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  Speaker 1: have ownership of it and they can tell everybody else
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  Speaker 1: what to do. So in that respect, Robes. This day
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  Speaker 1: is a celebration of anybody's love that was ever challenged
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  Speaker 1: as not being legit. So yeah, everybody should be celebrating today.
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  Speaker 1: And yes it's Pride month, where there are particular reasons
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  Speaker 1: that we have. Today in particular is such a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to get into here in a second, Robes.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize there was this much of a movement.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I haven't paid attention, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: states are pushing back and trying to reclaim in their minds,
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  Speaker 1: but also rename prior month into something else. I did
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  Speaker 1: not know there was this much of a movement of
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  Speaker 1: a game.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't either. I didn't either.
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  Speaker 2: You put it together and I was like, oh, my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: my goodness. And you know what, all these people making
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  Speaker 2: all these movements to undermine or to a race, or
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  Speaker 2: to undo any of the progress made about acceptance. You
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  Speaker 2: know what, these new generations of kids. You can think
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  Speaker 2: one way and then your kid comes out and says another.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even look at Elon Musk dealing with a
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  Speaker 2: child of his who thinks very differently than he does,
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  Speaker 2: who has come out as trance. Like, look, I do
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  Speaker 2: hope it doesn't seem like that's swaying him. Perhaps, But
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  Speaker 2: I do think a lot of times when people have
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  Speaker 2: these hard fast rules about what's supposed to be, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: life has a way of showing you that your love
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  Speaker 2: is bigger than you think it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's and it's too bad. I hate to
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  Speaker 1: hear this, you know, I'm looking. I was really, Look,
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  Speaker 1: this just seems mean, and it seems mean spirited. Even
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  Speaker 1: if you don't what agree or whatever, Let him have
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  Speaker 1: a month. Just let them have a month. If you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You got eleven others. Okay, black people, we got February. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got ten others. But just let them have a month.
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  Speaker 1: But it just because it seems mean spirited. This is
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  Speaker 1: Pride Month. I didn't realize this either, babe. Pride Month
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  Speaker 1: is not, of course, not a federal holiday, but it
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  Speaker 1: is recognized federally every single year by every single president
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  Speaker 1: with an executive order. And when I say every single
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  Speaker 1: president Robes, I meant every single Democratic president. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize we have not had a Republican president to sign
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  Speaker 1: an executive order in which they recognize.
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  Speaker 3: It's just sad.
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  Speaker 1: People have their beliefs. I'm okay with that, I guess right,
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  Speaker 1: and you can be opposed. I mean you have to
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  Speaker 1: leave room for that. There are good people who, for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason they have and it's maybe it's based in
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  Speaker 1: religion that are opposed to homosexuals and homosexuality and this
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  Speaker 1: whole idea of it. Now it gets a little deeper
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  Speaker 1: and a little little more upsetting robes when they say
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  Speaker 1: in some way LGBTQ LGBTQ plus community is some kind
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  Speaker 1: of way inundating or changing society, or in some way
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  Speaker 1: perverse or in some that type of language, as if
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  Speaker 1: having this community is a part of the American culture
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  Speaker 1: is a problem or taking away or we're getting away
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  Speaker 1: from something.
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  Speaker 3: That's I've always had. I've always been confused.
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  Speaker 2: I guess might be the best way to put it
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  Speaker 2: for me on the argument against accepting a group of
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  Speaker 2: people for who they are. So if you do it
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  Speaker 2: in the name of religion and you use the Bible,
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  Speaker 2: I have a problem with that. Yes, you can go
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  Speaker 2: back to I understand the Old Testament and sodom and
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  Speaker 2: gamoor and all of this stuff, But what would Jesus do?
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  Speaker 2: Can anyone argue that Jesus wouldn't be hanging among the
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  Speaker 2: people who everyone casts stones at. That's exactly what he did.
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  Speaker 2: He accepted them, he loved them, he brought them along.
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  Speaker 1: What's the argument why this is different from what Jesus
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  Speaker 1: would do?
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  Speaker 2: They think it's they think it's morally wrong, and the
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  Speaker 2: Bible says women men shouldn't lie with men, and they
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  Speaker 2: just have this procreation and this they go back to
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  Speaker 2: the Old Testament.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's where you get it from. And so
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  Speaker 3: there's that.
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  Speaker 2: And then number two, I just want to say, like
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  Speaker 2: in general, what's the problem. I mean, at what point,
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  Speaker 2: Like the best neighbors I could possibly have would be
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  Speaker 2: gay neighbors, Like they tend to understand how much they
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with, and they tend to be just.
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  Speaker 2: I just have had the expensive, lovely, creative, conscientious, good
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  Speaker 2: folks like you don't have like gay gangs going out
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  Speaker 2: and like causing problems and like creating violent episode, Like
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  Speaker 2: what is your issue?
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  Speaker 3: Like it's a moral they're spreading love, but mostly.
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  Speaker 1: They think their arguments that they're spreading something else that
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  Speaker 1: in some way are infiltrating our children early on in
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  Speaker 1: our schools and whatever else there are. I hear those
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  Speaker 1: things and I'm saying you can robe. You can teach
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  Speaker 1: your child whatever you want to teach your child, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to do it by putting down another group.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you can say whatever you want, teach your
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  Speaker 1: child that the man and the woman are the foundation
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  Speaker 1: of the home and the household, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: it should be and everything else. But you see that
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  Speaker 1: group over there, they do it a different way, and
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  Speaker 1: nothing's wrong with that, and you should accept that. I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to put them down and say you
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  Speaker 1: should not be exposed, otherwise you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: They think it's contagious.
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  Speaker 1: I do think the language sounds like that.
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  Speaker 3: They believe that being gay is contagious.
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  Speaker 1: It does. It sounds some of the language sounds like that.
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  Speaker 1: And you try to leave room for people's religious beliefs,
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  Speaker 1: but it comes with respect, and I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: part that ends up getting getting missed in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of this. So Yes, Big Day, Pride Day. I guess
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  Speaker 1: the biggest issue for us today, I say us, and
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  Speaker 1: I just mean me, is what I'm wearing to the
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  Speaker 1: no because you all got all this rainbow. We're in
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  Speaker 1: Soho looking for rainbow stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I've got some rainbow paint if you want.
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  Speaker 1: To put it on your face. Okay, you will not
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  Speaker 1: see that photo later. It's just but it is the
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  Speaker 1: reason today. Yes, we got Pride Month, so there's a
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  Speaker 1: very specific reason and it is based right here in
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  Speaker 1: New York City. Robes. And this is a to say,
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  Speaker 1: a gay mecca. It sounds a little crazy, but it's
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  Speaker 1: one of the things. Robes. I think anybody coming to
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  Speaker 1: New York, if you're making a visit places, I would
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  Speaker 1: tell them to go. You need to go to the
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven Memorial, You need to go to Stonewall
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  Speaker 1: in I just think Robes, this is one of the
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  Speaker 1: places you need to stop and understand. This is a
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  Speaker 1: historic place that really changed the course of history for
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  Speaker 1: the LGBTQ plus community in this country and certainly in
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  Speaker 1: New York. So that is why today is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: It all started at the Stonewall.
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  Speaker 2: Inn that's right in the West Village, which is also
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  Speaker 2: just a fun place to visit in Manhattan period, just
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  Speaker 2: with the bars and the restaurants. And yes, you can
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  Speaker 2: see where the Friends Building is and where Sarah Jessica
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  Speaker 2: Parker's stoop was and you lost.
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  Speaker 3: It on all that in the city.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a popular destination, but the stone Wall
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  Speaker 2: In is among the landmarks you should visit.
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  Speaker 3: There was a police raid there exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I actually didn't realize it was to the day June
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighth today, nineteen sixty nine. Demonstrations went on for days,
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  Speaker 2: but the police raided it.
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  Speaker 3: And look, it's a monument. The Stone Wall In is.
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  Speaker 2: A monument, a national monument, a National historic landmark.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And this place is just everything that is
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  Speaker 1: when it took off robes and that time, you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: walk down the street holding hands, no with someone of
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  Speaker 1: the same sect. You couldn't be dressed a certain way,
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't hang out openly in a gay bar. So
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  Speaker 1: they had this great this was a safe place, the
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  Speaker 1: stone Wall in fifty three Christopher Street. Right, It's just
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  Speaker 1: it was a hangout. They raided and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: the gay community pushed back. Yeah, and they fought back,
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  Speaker 1: and these were clashes and they were violent, they were
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  Speaker 1: ugly at times, but it started a movement robes from
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  Speaker 1: that moment and then the next year on the anniversary
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco, Chicago. I think it wasn't certainly new York,
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  Speaker 1: these celebrations, these marches took place, and here we are all.
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  Speaker 3: These till just hearing you say that.
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  Speaker 1: Still is happening and this has become for politics or
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  Speaker 1: other big When what year was it with the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court and the gay marriage.
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  Speaker 3: Which it was twenty fifteen. I think twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was when things like that have happened
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  Speaker 1: in the movement. Yes, this is the place that people go.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, just half a block away is
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  Speaker 2: Maurice Crisis, which is a place that I introduced you
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  Speaker 2: to first, but it also sometimes they get serious down there.
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  Speaker 2: This is a gay singing bar just a few steps
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  Speaker 2: away from the stonewall in and this is where, yes, traditionally,
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  Speaker 2: for so many years gay people have been able to
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  Speaker 2: come and sing and communally join. And so if yes,
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  Speaker 2: thus heterosexuals come and and join, they do remind you
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  Speaker 2: every now and then the sacredness of that place.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, Maurice Crisis is the gayest place
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  Speaker 1: I've ever been about and.
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  Speaker 3: One of the funnest places you've ever been in your life.
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  Speaker 1: Put those two together. That is not sweetheart. There have
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  Speaker 1: been a straight black male friends of mine. I recommend
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  Speaker 1: you gotta go by the wall in.
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  Speaker 3: Crisis.
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  Speaker 1: It is a cool, special place, and after you've been
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  Speaker 1: in there a couple of times, you do start to
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  Speaker 1: get it and respect that you're in somebody else's space
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  Speaker 1: right now. And I'm gonna respect it. It is a
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  Speaker 1: really really cool place.
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  Speaker 2: They just they let you know the history and they
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  Speaker 2: let you know the solemnity of it, even in the
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  Speaker 2: midst of fun and singing.
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  Speaker 3: And I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't realize though, Robes, Yes, we got pride.
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  Speaker 1: We have a Pride March going on here. They call
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  Speaker 1: it a Pride Parade in San Francisco, but it's called
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  Speaker 1: a Pride March here. I didn't realize though. Sometimes this
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  Speaker 1: has even gotten I say, a little controversial. This is
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  Speaker 1: just a little aside. But there's a different, like a
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  Speaker 1: separate celebration today called the Queer March or something, because
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  Speaker 1: they think the Pride March has gotten to corporate. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: because it's gotten so big and so corporate. At the
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  Speaker 1: same time, you got people putting together Pride March who
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  Speaker 1: are saying they are losing major corporate sponsors because of
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  Speaker 1: President Trump.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, and the DEEI push and like some people are
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  Speaker 4: just they're afraid to give money to it and to
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  Speaker 4: support it because they're afraid they're going to lose some
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  Speaker 4: sort of federal funding or some sort of deal they
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  Speaker 4: need approved by the government in some way.
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  Speaker 3: That is so concerning. You know what, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 3: President Clinton he is the one. Yes, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I did not know that President Clinton is the president
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  Speaker 2: who was established by Executive Order Pride Month back in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 3: Did not realize that it was Clinton who did it.
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  Speaker 1: And it has continued every year except the year that
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  Speaker 1: there is a Republican in the White House. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not a no federal legislation, there's no law or anything
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  Speaker 1: on the book. So every year it's just like with
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  Speaker 1: a Black History Month as well, there's a proclamation that
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  Speaker 1: is signed. Every president signs that one Republican and Democrat
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  Speaker 1: on the Black History but no Republicans have signed the
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  Speaker 1: executive order to recognize federally. So as far as our
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  Speaker 1: federal government goes, it's not recognizing that this is Pride
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  Speaker 1: Month at all.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, just an unnecessary slap in the face. So folks
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  Speaker 2: who have fought hard for protection and freedom to try.
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  Speaker 1: To leave space, Babe, for people's religious beliefs and where
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  Speaker 1: they come off. But some of this just seems mean.
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  Speaker 1: But stay here, folks, it gets meaner. There are things
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  Speaker 1: being done in certain states to take Pride Month without
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  Speaker 1: actually saying they're taking it. To stay here.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. While we're celebrating
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  Speaker 2: Pride Month and about to set out to go participate
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  Speaker 2: and not participate in, but to observe and enjoy the
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  Speaker 2: Pride March that will be happening all around us.
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  Speaker 1: You did that for me, right in case people are
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  Speaker 1: heying that I was participating.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be celebrating along with and so we're doing that
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  Speaker 2: here in New York and certainly that's happening all across
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  Speaker 2: this country.
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  Speaker 3: But something else is going on in a few.
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  Speaker 2: Particular states that Babe, I was completely unaware of. So
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  Speaker 2: in Indiana and in Tennessee they celebrate Nuclear Family Month.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's got a ring to it.
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  Speaker 1: And you see what they're getting at. Right, you're doing
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  Speaker 1: it in June. You got a lot of months you
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  Speaker 1: can do that, but they're doing it in June. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: that it's this is hasn't even veiled, is it or
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: but look.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: This is kind of this is this is sad to
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: me again. If this is in the name of religion,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: my god, this is so hateful. This is not loving,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: This is not inclusive, This is judgmental, this is righteous.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: They actually describe nuclear Family Month as a way to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: celebrate family of one husband, one wife and buy illogical
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: adopted or fostered children between the husband and wife. How
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: many people does that exclude? And what isn't that the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: opposite of what we should be doing?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it excludes a lot. But yes, traditionally in this country,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: our households look like a man and a woman and kids.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. I love that for them, it's amazing.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But that's the problem, Ropes. We can't the group that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: is encouraging that and pushing that isn't inclusive of anything
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: that doesn't look like that. And that is where we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: This is where we haven't come.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: What about single moms, what about single dads.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: It's just sad.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not even your own doing or your own choosing.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It just life happens, and it's hard, and it's not
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: what we wish it could be or what we want
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: for ourselves or for our children, but we do the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: best we can.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: It's sad.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody understands what you're talking about. And plenty of people
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: because most people got good sense and they got life experience,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: they know how this works. And there are plenty of
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: people in a one husband, one wife, biological kid environment
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that need to get the hell out of there right
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: now because damage is being done to them by having that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Like we talk about that being the only thing that's relevant.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, infidelity, all
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the things that go on in some of those seemingly
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: perfect families.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Just so lack of love.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you went to the extreme difference.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, you say that, but it is something wrong with
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: two dudes raising a little boy who's heterosexual by the way. Yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and a loving environment.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: No, the answer is no. But why can't we accept
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: that we'd rather have?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But this is the thing I'm trying to accept that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: some people think that's not the way to go, Like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: we can, we shouldn't we accept that people think about
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it differently. The problem is we don't respect yes, that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: other people are thinking about it differently, yes, and have
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: another way. That is the issue. I don't take any
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: any issue with anybody for religious reasons thinking that is
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the way it should be.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I got No, that's fine.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: That's how you choose deliver to impose it on other
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: people and then declare them disgusting, immoral, horrific people because
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you don't think what you think.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Now you've got Now, I've got an issue.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: In Alabama, they got another name.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: For their It's not Pride Month in Alabama.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: No, it's Strong Families Month.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: No, you're trying too hard. That come on, I want
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: a weak Families.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Month because that is honestly, most families we're barely hanging on.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That's just the truth that some implication that these people
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: have figured it out. Please share us, share with us
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: your special sauce. It's not easy, folks, We're all trying.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: But yes, it's described as homes led by a father
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and mother, providing children with the structure and discipline necessary
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to succeed throughout life.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Amen, I love that for everyone.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: There is no disagree We have no disagreement. But a
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: home's led by a by two parents. You can say
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that too, baby. It says father and mother, a home
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: led by a strong parent, a successful parent, a disciplining parent.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying there there are wonderful kids out there who
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: were raised in a single family home. We don't we don't,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: we don't choose it. We don't say this is the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: way it should be, and we don't promote it. To
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: throw shame on it is the situation. It's not recognizing
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that people have different circumstances in life. Man, that is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Easy from your pedestal.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But there, that's so weird that they think they're on
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a pedestal just because I am in a marriage, not
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: because I'm in a loving marriage or a caring marriage
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: or a successful marriage. What was that we were talking
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: about recently, Bunny exo and yes, ten years a marriage?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Can you have a successful marriage that ends after ten years?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Can you still say it was successful? Maybe they built
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: something together. Can you have a successful marriage. I'm not
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: here to judge, but I think Utah and Arkansas'll figured
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it out. This is the best. God.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They called it Fidelity Month. What Utah in Arkansas they
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: don't have Pride month. They have Fidelity Month. And they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: like to celebrate faith, country and family.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So yes, and this was what's Sarah Huckaby, the governor there,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: she put out, Uh, this is on social media she said, yep,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: another red status counter programming Pride Month. So I said
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it was veiled. That's not veiled. That's being very clear
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: about what they're trying to do. There has been a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Family Month legislation. It has been introduced in Congress. It
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere. It came from a Republican from Illinois.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Her name is Mary Miller.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I think you would just say thank God for Chicago
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on that one. That might be why it failed.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder where she is, not near Chicago, I wonder
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: where her district is. But it didn't go anywhere. But
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that line from the legislation is the problem. That's the problem.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is from her, from her legislation, from Representative
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Mary Miller. I just want to make sure no one
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: thinks this is coming from anyone but her. She said,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Americans are inundated with Sorry, pervert. I can't talk perverse
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: because that's such a hard thing for me to say
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: before Pride Month.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Perverse.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Pride Month displays and events throughout the month of June
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that denigrate the nuclear family.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And that is where I take issue.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Why does someone else's family denigrate yours?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Because they believe that if there's this movement, and people
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: start to accept that that is normal or okay, or
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: acceptable or even good, that that in some way takes
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: away from the goal ultimate goal in their minds of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: being this mommy, daddy, biological.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Small minded, because guess what, you can still have all
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: sorts of different types of families that can all be successful,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: especially when they're so when those families aren't supported, that
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: does make it harder. That does make it more difficult
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: for the children in that family, for the parents in
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that family to lead in beautiful and gentle and peaceful
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and loving ways. You make it harder for those kids
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to have successful lives because you make them feel like
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: there's something they should be ashamed of, that is sad,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that is not loving. That's what blows my mind that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that can't be acknowledged. You don't have to like it,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you don't have to agree with it. But not accepting
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it and calling it perverse and actually saying it threatens
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: your way of life, that's when it gets scary.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: But Robes, a lot of this is political talk, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I encourage everybody maybe we should train change the name Robes,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: so maybe we should think about it a little differently.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But this is a celebrat this month is a celebration
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of love, and if we stop trying to.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Take the sex out of it, I guess that's it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Take the second. Actually, Captain Sandy really nailed it for
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: me when she said that to us the other week.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I thought, Ah, that's what it is.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: We should repost her interview this morning. I thought about
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it when you mentioned it. I hadn't thought about her
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and that interview. We just did, and we should because
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it was on the ID part too. Yes, we should
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: try to put it up on this feed today and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: let folks see it, because yes, we talked about plenty
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of other things about their relationship, but Robes, that was
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a highlight, Like you say, what, and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Look, her wife was in a heterosexual relationship with the man,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and both of them are very, very very Christian. In fact,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Captain Sandy said the number one thing for her in
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: finding a wife and finding a partner was that they
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: loved God.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: That first.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and her wife now.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Actually was heavily involved in the church with her husband,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and it was really difficult for her to acknowledge that
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: she was gay.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And so I just thought that story was so intrying.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Because there are religious ties to everything about their story
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and how it was difficult for this to actually become
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But they are so beautiful, so in love.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Been together for years now, and a shining example of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: what maybe people are missing when they when they're quick
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to throw stones about what they think a gay relationship.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: We didn't. I didn't think about this. We should. We're
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: going to try, folks to get it posted immediately after
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: this one. That's a good win to post robes for
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that reason. We'll get the right title up. But that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that was she should do that you should hear from
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: her today. It was very simple and I just and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people, robes, if you just get
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: go hang around some gay folks. Yeah, just go really
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and I understand a lot of folks haven't been exposed.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It would just go hang around with gay folks.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have a great time.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Don't today because they're gonna be a little much. If
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: we need to ease people into LGBTQ plus community, this
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is going to be a lot for some. But it is.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's joy. It's a hell of a day. We look
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: forward to it. What should I wear? Last thing I chat?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I should get no all the girls on
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You've got.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: A couple T shirts that I think would work.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: T shirts yeah, with some with some fun messaging, some
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: inclusive messaging.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, but if I don't do that, what is a
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: how does a heterosexual male dress going to pride? You
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: know what?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe counter like just kind of be like in neutrals
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: so that, like we can, you can just let the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: rainbow shine.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: All black men. Yes, hi, folks, I always appreciate you.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I hope you are having a good start to your Sunday.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: If you get a chance to enjoy pride, please please
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: do so. But we always appreciate you spending a little
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: time with us. I'm TJ on Math and my dear
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: me robot. Talk soon.