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Spoiled Saturdays: Slash/Back · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I've never told you a production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome. We are coming through with a spoiler Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: because yes, this movie is anywhere, and it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: bleeding over from November, because did we do want in
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  Speaker 2: November any I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: We did it. Our booth and movie both got moved
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  Speaker 1: to December.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of content for y'all, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: So that means we're going to bleed into December and
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  Speaker 2: you know what, as it should be, as it should
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  Speaker 2: be all of the year long. We should do more
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  Speaker 2: and more Indigenous and Native content because we don't have enough,
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  Speaker 2: which also holds us back because we can't find them,
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  Speaker 2: which makes me sad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's every year where we're trying to do content
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  Speaker 1: for this time. It's depressing how difficult it can be.
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  Speaker 2: Because we have very like specific standards, including you would
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  Speaker 2: like to be We have to be obviously led by
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  Speaker 2: Indigenous people, but people that are in our intersectional circle,
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  Speaker 2: and so typically we do use women creators because there's
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  Speaker 2: not enough women in this industry to begin with, if
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  Speaker 2: not non binary, as well as people who are not
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  Speaker 2: bad people.
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  Speaker 1: We should genuinely, we should.
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  Speaker 2: Be that, we should be an obvious but sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: have to do some deep, deep research to hope that
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  Speaker 2: they're okay people. But in this case, they are okay
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  Speaker 2: people's And yes, we are excited to do a horror movie,
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  Speaker 2: science fiction movie which is also a love letter to
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  Speaker 2: a whole community that has not given its proper due
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  Speaker 2: and spotlight and apparently a love letter to the thing
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  Speaker 2: which my partner immediately called out when we started this movie.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, yes, well yes, and they mentioned it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of horror movies these days
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  Speaker 1: have has that one character that.
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  Speaker 2: Knows horror movies.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and she was talking about the thing. She was
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  Speaker 1: talking about all of it, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, I never seen it. I really like
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  Speaker 3: the thing it is. It's creepy in the ending because
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  Speaker 3: it's an ambiguous ending and it takes place in Antarctica,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like isolated and the you know, kind of
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  Speaker 3: that whole scary.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who's lying and who's not who No, like,
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  Speaker 1: because it takes over people so you don't know, and
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  Speaker 1: then uh it does. Yeah, it's just got. It does
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of things that one of the scenes
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  Speaker 1: that Jesse was describing at this movie about it. It
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of special effects that at the time
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure were amazing but now are kind of like
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  Speaker 1: eighties te A lot of them are really good. But yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta remember the context of timing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But the movie we're talking about, because I haven't said
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  Speaker 2: it yet, is Slashback, which was released in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: two at the South By Southwest Film Festival, Directed and
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  Speaker 2: produced and written by Nila Enuxuk also Ryan Kavan. I
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  Speaker 2: believe he also helped write this movie. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is her baby, this is her thing, and she
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  Speaker 2: was born in Iguluk and grew up in the Ikaluit area.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, but this year indigenous languages are coming back,
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  Speaker 2: thank goodness, but it is not as common, so getting
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  Speaker 2: pronunciations can be difficult. Thank goodness. This stuff has more
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  Speaker 2: pronunciations for me because the struggle is real. But apologies
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  Speaker 2: if I do misspeak, and come back and let me know,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm working on it, y'all. I'm working on it.
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  Speaker 2: We are always working on it here. But yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: though this is her first full length movie, she has
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  Speaker 2: many other short films and documentaries under her name, including
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  Speaker 2: some virtual reality work, which I feel like we need
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  Speaker 2: to do an episode on because we haven't really talked
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  Speaker 2: done or talked much about stuff like that. Have we.
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  Speaker 2: We did that one, right.
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  Speaker 1: We did. I can't remember the title. Oh no, but
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  Speaker 1: we did one from another Indigenous creator that had just yes,
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  Speaker 1: I remember that.
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  Speaker 2: But we need to do We need to come back
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  Speaker 2: to some more of these things. Excited to do so,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, but back to this film. A Slashback
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  Speaker 2: is a science fiction horror thriller movie that is centered
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  Speaker 2: around the Canadian Indigenous community, or you know, as we
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  Speaker 2: would say, they would not say it was Canadian because
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  Speaker 2: in my mind I was like, oh, this is also
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  Speaker 2: in Alaska, which they also don't recognize they being the
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  Speaker 2: indigenous community because they are one group of people. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that makes more sense. But for
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  Speaker 2: this sake of just trying to understand geography, this is
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  Speaker 2: the area that it is focused on, and it is
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  Speaker 2: the community of pung Nantan Nanavut. And again I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to get this pronunciation right. In the movie, they say
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  Speaker 2: paying a lot, so that's what we're going to refer
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  Speaker 2: the area as. And it is an actual area apparently
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  Speaker 2: made up of like seven to eight thousand people, and
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  Speaker 2: we get to see a group of young girls who
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  Speaker 2: come together to fight against some really gross creatures. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that's the best way, some really good visual effects.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a native Indigenous like take on the eighties,
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  Speaker 2: not the eighties like of nineties girl Best Friend movies.
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  Speaker 2: But they go do some venturing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the Thing meets the Goonies, but with indigenous.
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  Speaker 2: Girls and which we love, which we love to see.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so let's go ahead and get started with
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  Speaker 2: the plot. I'm going to go quickly through and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk to some themes and some ideas in some
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  Speaker 2: of the interviews that they gave on this movie. So
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  Speaker 2: the first scene is with Micah, one of the main
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  Speaker 2: teen girls that we get to follow, and her father
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  Speaker 2: teaching her lessons of her culture and her people, including
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  Speaker 2: how to hunt and fish. Very cool scene. And I
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  Speaker 2: should note I haven't seen any articles, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: we should be able to find some soon because it
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  Speaker 2: kind of just talked about their experience in filmmaking. But
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  Speaker 2: the art, the writer, the director, Enuksuk made sure to
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  Speaker 2: not only use mainly indigenous casts. Specifically from that area.
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  Speaker 2: But also they used music, indigenous music, which was really fun,
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  Speaker 2: as well as all of the writings for indigenous for
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  Speaker 2: their culture as well as they made sure to speak it,
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  Speaker 2: which I love that they used that language in there
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  Speaker 2: in order to communicate with each other, to show that
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  Speaker 2: it still existed and that it was still going strong.
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  Speaker 2: So very heavily focused in the culture, and we love
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  Speaker 2: to see that. And that's kind of how you begin,
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  Speaker 2: is the story of her father and her doing something
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  Speaker 2: that is traditional and something that has been passed down
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  Speaker 2: and he is known as one of the best hunters
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  Speaker 2: in the area, so we find out. But then we
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  Speaker 2: jump into a scene with an im media attack of
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  Speaker 2: a white scientist that being dry somewhere in the snow
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  Speaker 2: by something in the snow, like you just see tentacles
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  Speaker 2: pop out, yeah and blood splatter immediate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He was an interesting character in the one minute
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  Speaker 1: he had on the ones talking to his gloves glove,
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  Speaker 1: but he like face first and very unceremonious stuff, very
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  Speaker 1: alien esque. Definitely definitely alien esque.
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  Speaker 2: I did laugh at the talking to the glove scene
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like that's something I would also do
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  Speaker 2: being alone entirely in the snow isolated. You can't run
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  Speaker 2: away from me. In fact, they can all right. Moving on,
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  Speaker 2: and then we get to see out of that. We
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  Speaker 2: are introduced to the main characters of the movie, Micah, Jesse, Lena,
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  Speaker 2: and Oki and Micah's younger sister Are you and there
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  Speaker 2: are going about their day, causing some trouble, wishing they
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  Speaker 2: they didn't live there, you know, the teenage thing growing
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  Speaker 2: up in a small area like, ugh, this place is off,
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to leave, have a feeling, That's what
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  Speaker 2: they expressed. But you can tell they're the cool girls
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  Speaker 2: running about doing their thing, chasing people down with bikes. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the girls wanting to do something that day, decided to
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  Speaker 2: take their parents' boat, Mike's parents boat, and go out
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  Speaker 2: to the mainland with a gun. Always good time, I guess, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, my family just kind of did at
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  Speaker 2: the own house shooting things.
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  Speaker 1: Really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, moving while they're there, they come across a
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  Speaker 2: polar bear kind of except the bear looks different, and
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  Speaker 2: after a very scary interaction and an attack on the
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  Speaker 2: younger sister because I decided to come even though she
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  Speaker 2: wasn't invited, and then she gets attacked by the bear,
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  Speaker 2: which apparently she drove on the bike. She got there
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  Speaker 2: really quickly. I feel like that's some dedication.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was determined not to be left out of
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  Speaker 1: this name.
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  Speaker 2: I don't blame her, but that's when she gets attacked.
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  Speaker 2: After finally some like good shooting and screaming and leaving
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  Speaker 2: in all of these things, they get back to their
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  Speaker 2: home where they tell this ghost story and the girl,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I was covered in black blood. They're
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  Speaker 2: all kind of creeped out and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: what exactly was that because they know there wasn't something
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  Speaker 2: There was something wrong here. There's something wrong with that bear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they shot it twice. Uki shot it the
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  Speaker 1: first time, then Micah shot it the second time, and
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  Speaker 1: it just didn't seem that's right. Something was off about
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  Speaker 1: it exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Something was off. So Okiu talks of enough legends and
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  Speaker 2: lords at this time about what they've seen, what they know,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what this is, and Micah dismisses it
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  Speaker 2: as being silly and nonsense. And after a bit of
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  Speaker 2: back and forth, because you know, Darre's Oki to go
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  Speaker 2: back to prove that she is not scared, because they're like, nah,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't do it again, I dare you all these
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  Speaker 2: things and of course challenge. Of course, this would lead
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  Speaker 2: to the bigger moments of Okay killing a smaller creature
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  Speaker 2: while they are covered a while there and then getting
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  Speaker 2: covered by the blood as well, and making something angry
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  Speaker 2: which seems to be something that they're attracted to they
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  Speaker 2: can sense and find. And so when he comes back
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  Speaker 2: to the community trying to tell them what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, this happens at a party, and the
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  Speaker 2: girls all went to trying to go and press one
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  Speaker 2: boy Lena's got a crush trying to get to and
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  Speaker 2: at the same time Micah is like, no, I don't care,
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  Speaker 2: but putting on that perfume, doing her thing, you know
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  Speaker 2: how we know? And then they all come back together
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  Speaker 2: and Oki comes tell them I killed it. They're coming
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  Speaker 2: they're aliens. Because she also sees this giant glob.
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  Speaker 1: With tentacles like spaceship blob thing. Uh, that's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And after the back and forth of like her lit
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  Speaker 2: saying that she's lying, do you think gets attacked by
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  Speaker 2: one of the cops who had just gotten killed by
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  Speaker 2: this creature bare thing and now is wearing his skin loosely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a very bad Michael Myers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And he's chasing after Oki and there's halting
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  Speaker 2: ensues and everybody's running away and screaming. And this is
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  Speaker 2: when Micah decides she has to help Oki and we
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  Speaker 2: need to stop these creatures. This is our fall. We
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  Speaker 2: got to do this thing. They try to call the cop.
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  Speaker 2: The cop gets killed too. The chief we should never
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  Speaker 2: see her again. I thought maybe we would see her skin.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen, no, no, yeah, yeah. And then the villager.
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  Speaker 2: There was another villager who gets killed and is now
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  Speaker 2: part of the skin army, which is what Lena calls them.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm just calling him skins. And then that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: So Lena, Uki and Micah come together, like we're going
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  Speaker 2: to go after these things. Let's go as they do.
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  Speaker 2: My bad, it's actually Jesse, not Lena. I got them
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  Speaker 2: confused because I had the other one. So Jesse is
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  Speaker 2: the one that goes on the hunt with them, because
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  Speaker 2: she is also the same one who has been like
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  Speaker 2: no one's with the paying girls. Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And she's also the one that has to crush on
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  Speaker 2: the dude who has the Honda, which I thought was
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  Speaker 2: like maybe an product placement.
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  Speaker 1: Because I did too, because later so Thomsy has this
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  Speaker 1: kind of like for like r V Honda thing that's
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  Speaker 1: the talk of the town. But then at the end,
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  Speaker 1: some somebody else I think it's Micah's dad is wearing
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  Speaker 1: a Honda, and I was like, is.
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  Speaker 2: This I mean, you get your product? That's very specific
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  Speaker 2: because I thought first one was a car. But yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we have Jesse going with uh Ouki and Micah
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  Speaker 2: hunting after these things now and realizing they have to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of it, and that the adults weren't going
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  Speaker 2: to help because the adults were at their party and
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  Speaker 2: they were dancing and having a good time and not
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  Speaker 2: answering phones, and because this was the longest day of
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  Speaker 2: the year, they were gonna be out for a while,
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  Speaker 2: so they were going to have to handle this or
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  Speaker 2: everybody was going to die. So we have Micah coming
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  Speaker 2: and putting in her hunting skills to use and setting
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  Speaker 2: a trap, which Uki was like, I will be the bait,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because she has the show. She's bad, she
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  Speaker 2: is bad, she's great, And they try to do a
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  Speaker 2: whole trap, which I oh, puts Uki in danger. And
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  Speaker 2: almost kills her, but thinking this, she's okay, and then
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  Speaker 2: they realize, oh, they're at Micah's house. And as they
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  Speaker 2: arrive with to Micah's house, they realize her father is there,
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  Speaker 2: and out of nowhere here comes the Good, throwing her
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  Speaker 2: across the room Micah and knocking her unconscious. When she
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  Speaker 2: comes to, she sees that her dad's being attacked by
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  Speaker 2: this monster, and we have a great back and forth
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  Speaker 2: with her memories of everything he taught her and all
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  Speaker 2: the things that she wanted about him, even though she
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  Speaker 2: was ashamed of him previously because he was so country,
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  Speaker 2: I think is the way she kind of put it.
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  Speaker 2: And then they finally come together and killed this creature
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  Speaker 2: as they do of course with a large machete like
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  Speaker 2: sword thing that was passed down from generations from her
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  Speaker 2: great grandfather, and they use it to kill this monster Rua.
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  Speaker 2: And in the end we see they all come together
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  Speaker 2: and she is more proud of her culture. Micah is,
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  Speaker 2: and they open up a whole almost like a food
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  Speaker 2: truck with her father and is very successful because everybody
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  Speaker 2: loves country food. That's Thomas, he would say. And then
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  Speaker 2: also reporters coming in to ask about these aliens.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and Oki being like I am, they answer my
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  Speaker 1: questions for a fee, which I love.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get your money baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is a really great movie, easy watch,
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  Speaker 2: very short. It is interesting because if you read about
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  Speaker 2: what they did, like I sai that they brought in
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  Speaker 2: indigenous actors. They actually use the village people as a
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  Speaker 2: part of the ensemble. And so they talked about how
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of doing the acting workshops. They kind
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  Speaker 2: of worked through this, so it gave opportunities to people
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  Speaker 2: who wouldn't be in movies to be in movies. I
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  Speaker 2: did see interviews with some of the young stars and
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about this so exciting. I can't believe I
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  Speaker 2: get to say I was in a movie. So I
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  Speaker 2: would go in with It's not an Oscar nominated film,
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  Speaker 2: but it is an enjoyable watch.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It's a really it's a really fun watch.
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  Speaker 1: I like the because you know, we love horror here
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  Speaker 1: and it's not scary, like it has unsettling moments, but
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like the fun. Yeah, the thing. It
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  Speaker 1: was definitely an adventure, yes, and and you know we
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  Speaker 1: love friendships amongst girls and women here. That was fun.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say I was not. I you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to lose any romantic tension for me, but I
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  Speaker 1: was surprised that no, nothing came of that kind of
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  Speaker 1: triangle that was happening.
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  Speaker 2: I also really loved the fact that he was so useless,
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  Speaker 2: Like he tried to help in the end, but the
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  Speaker 2: actuality was that he was very useless and he knew it,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, like it really was kind of cute on
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  Speaker 2: that level. I think one of the things that we
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  Speaker 2: will get into about this is that they made sure
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  Speaker 2: not to make it heavy handed in that they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want too political of messages, even though it could be
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  Speaker 2: seen as that, which makes me sad because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like the lot of the it could be both ways.
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  Speaker 2: Where we see films that have such opportunities to educate,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they have to hold back because they
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  Speaker 2: have to they want to be a little more mainstream,
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  Speaker 2: or being told by studios that they can't do too much,
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  Speaker 2: or the fact that they don't. It's like I wish
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  Speaker 2: it didn't have to be that they people would just
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  Speaker 2: naturally want to research it after the fact instead of
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like and let them have
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the fun times like this's this double edged sort of like, man,
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  Speaker 2: this is an interesting place to be because we don't
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  Speaker 2: have enough of this type of content to begin with
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  Speaker 2: to get that education, and so it's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: you either have to try to stick it all in
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  Speaker 2: and hope that people will stay around or that or
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  Speaker 2: make it as fun as possible in order to let
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: you know, like to also stick around. So there's just
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  Speaker 2: layers of so many things, especially as a filmmaker who
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  Speaker 2: you know, talks about her love for et as well
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  Speaker 2: as the thing and loving horror and these types of films,
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  Speaker 2: and really want to do that with these group of
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  Speaker 2: girls also having a responsibility and just that conversation alone
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  Speaker 2: about accepting yourself and your identity as teenagers in an
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  Speaker 2: indigenous community and try not to be too heavy handed
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  Speaker 2: on them to carry out these emotional tolls for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a lot to it. So let's go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and jump into themes or at least things that I
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: saw about the film that we should talk about, because
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  Speaker 2: they feel like I just throw around the word themes
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: like this is not theme, but I'm gonna talk about it. Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: let's do it. So obviously we want to talk about
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the Inuit culture and some of the folklore. Of course,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like they they mentioned at least two or three different
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: lures that they have in there. Have we talked about
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: some of these? I don't know if we've actually talked
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: about Inuit folklore.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I don't believe.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: So.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about things that were adjacent, Yeah,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: kind of similar stories, but not specifically this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of conversation about like taking
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: over bodies and using people's bodies. Again, I guess that's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the thing about the thing. Yeah, right, so that was
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: really interesting in their conversation and then also just being
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: exasperated because they didn't want to think it's real, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: at the same time it kind of was real in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a different way.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Because one of the big the big points of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: tension in the movie is between Uki and Micah. Micah
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is like embarrassed by in that culture. She thinks it's silly,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: whereas Uki's very proud. She's the one that's like, I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like living here, and so they're kind of opposites in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that way. And when Uki comes back after seeing the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: spaceship is like, congratulations, you won. It wasn't what I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: said it was in our folkal orates aliens.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: The character was quite funny. I think their friendship was
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: interesting because it's also talked about how they grow, yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: from each other and then with each other, but we'll
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: talk more about that. But also the lifestyle. I think
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that was something that was important for in Asook to
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: talk about and to show off. Even though this wasn't
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: her village that she grew up in, she knew the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: community in itself and wanted to highlight the community itself.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: The beautiful shots of them been on the boat and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: going by the like glaciers and such. I was like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: oh my god, yeah that I never in my mind
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: has that gone in my head as a possibility, even
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: though obviously people live that. In my mind, it's not
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a real everyday thing, and it was for them in
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this moment, and they're so bored of it. I'm like,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I guess we all feel that way from wherever we're from, because, like, again,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: my hometown now that I grew up in is a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: big tourist site and it's crowded all the time because
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: people want to go up there to see the leaves
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the country. Yeah, the apples and the apples and the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: foothills of the mountains. But I do find that interesting also,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like the conversation about like hunting and how important that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: is and how much of a legend that people see
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: it as, where Mike I took that for granted because
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: she was supposed to be with her father but so
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: embarrassed because he was selling off the things that he
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: had hunted, which is of pride for so many, including Thomas,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: who was like, Oh, that's your Your dad's super cool.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You think you guys could teach me? And she's like.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she made fun of his mom's art.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: He liked HER's like, why are you liking her? Dude?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she really had a lot to work for.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: She did, She really did. But I found that interesting
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: also because we've talked about how I love that they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: were doing that with a young girl, that he was
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: teaching her that. And maybe it's because they didn't have
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a son. I don't think they had a son. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: think they had two young other younger sisters, right, she
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: had two younger sisters and she was the eldest, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: he was teaching all these things and she was supposed
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to help, but like she was taught to shoot a gun,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: she was taught to like go and fish and hunt
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and bait and all these things, and so it really
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: brought into that lifestyle for her, even though she didn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: love it. It was interesting also look back and forth
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: about the technology because I didn't and this is twenty
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: one when they were talking about about data and all
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: these things, and we have talked about the accessibility that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen in a lot of these areas, not because
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: they can't have it because the US or whatever colonial
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: like colonized imperial system has taken over won't grant them that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And just recently I watched the TikTok And not to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: say that all they're all like not given modern technologies,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but the fact is they're not given federal funding to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: get a lot of these technologies, including just electricity and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: all of those things not electricity but like but you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, setups to be a part of
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the grid. They're the first people to be cut off,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's likely to be able to afford it, and they
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: are not given any kind of breaks because the government
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: won't recognize them in so many ways. So like it
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it's all of these levels of like, oh oh yeah,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I kind of forget this as well, and they are
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: further out, like they do talk about how they're in
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the Arctic. They keep going At one point of the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: line is if we keep going up, we go to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a different place. And and then Mike, Mike I says,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you go, if you keep going north, you're going to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: eventually go south, Like that's that what's her comment? Yes,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: not wrong, but there was an interesting conversation in that lifestyle. Also, again,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's really important that they actually shot in
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: paying with the people of the village and again a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: mainly Inuit cast. She really thought that was important. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: was telling Annie that they flew in fifty beds because
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: there was not enough housing for the crew, so they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: had to fly in beds and have them in the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: schools to stay in there. Because it's not a large
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: area I think they said again seven to eight thousand
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: people in population, and so they were like, oh, okay,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: we got to make do. And they would come together
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and have acting workshops together with the crew. They would
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: come together and have they said, kind of like counseling sessions.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But then also they would go out on the boats
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and teach them different areas and show them places to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: go and where they should and shouldn't go like it
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: was a whole lesson for her as well as the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: crew from the village. So I love every bed of
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: that and I wanted to put this line in. So
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: there was interview that this person did, scriptmag dot Com
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: did and they asked, you know, what is something that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you hope the audience takes and the young girl who
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: plays Micah Tasiana, she says, I really hope that the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: audience will get a sense of what it's like to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: live in the Arctic and the lifestyle that we live
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: as Inuit in nanea of it. And I really thought
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it was interesting that this young girl wanted people to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: see what it was like for them and how why
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that was important for her, which I was really I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: love that. I love that aspect of wanting to share
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: culture and be made known, as well as like again,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: them actually doing the script, them actually writing in their language,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: them actually speaking in their language. I think is so
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: important because this is part of like when we talked
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: about preservation and because there weren't access to this, this
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: is a small bit of preservation that they get to
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: have and we get to have of a culture that
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: is so easily unlikely to be forgotten, if not completely
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: destroyed because of supremacy whites. But yeah, those lines are
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: really cute. Again, they do have a few interviews and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a few highlights with the three of them, the director
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and the young girl who plays Okay and the young
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: girl who plays Micah. So those are some really cute
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: interviews and interesting to see in their conversations. Y'all should
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: go check that out to learn more about that. In
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that same point, we kind of already talked about it,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: but wanting to be normal and not a native team
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: like not being native in that level of like filling
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: at the point they keep saying paying is so ghetto.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I guess so yet just because they felt like they
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: didn't have everything that everyone they saw everyone else they
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: thought everyone else had again talking about how Lena gets
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to go to pretty much white city, like white predominantly
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: white city, and she gets to go there every summer.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: She gets unlimited data, all of these different things. She
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: also gets to punish the most.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's her parents very careful watch her and ground
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: her very easily.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm getting so much trouble really so to
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: be fun, I mean like they almost.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Died, I mean she did get in so much trouble.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Even before the dying, she got grounded for a month.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It was like, that's dang. I thought this was interesting
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: comment from the director, and it suck. She talks about
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: how teenager dynamics were for her and why it was
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: interesting in trying to relay this without having too much
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: emotional work from the actors. She says, and certainly talking
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: in the inspiration for that really did come from teenagers,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and the dynamics of the teenagers. So she would sit
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and talk with them about what they wanted to do
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: that day in acting or how they wanted to write
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the script, but then also my experience as an end
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: up teenager processing how that worked, how that fit in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: with my identity and what shame I had carried and
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: how do I process that? And I could see in
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the language of some of the cast members that they
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: carried some shame as well, And so we'd have conversations
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: about it and what does it mean when we say, oh,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: that's so INOK, and we mean it in a negative way,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and how do we shift that to being we're using
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: prideful language when we were talking about where we come from.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So I could absolutely see that She actually had that scene.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: She had that scene with the teenagers coming together again,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: pang is so ghetto. That's some you know, stuff like
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: dismissing legends or thoughts or ideas and trying to fit
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: in in what they think is the standard, which is
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: white standards, and then understanding later that it's not badge
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: when again Micah comes in ready to go, just like
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: hating on everything from Thomas's home, whether it was the painting,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: whether it was about the cooking, whether it was about
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: any of these things that had anything of ink or
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Inuit cultural relevance, that she really pushed back on because
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: she hated it so much in her mind, like it
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: just was so much lesser than what she wanted to be.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And I found that interesting again also doing that in
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: a way to emotionally guard them. Well, I think, you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it's really about how that was important to her and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: how important it is that they didn't do too much
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: to weigh that on these young kids. And then she
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: also talked about the younger, younger kids even you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and how they would hear that and I'll that would
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: relate to them and whether like they would take that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: on as a part of their identity too, just hearing
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that even though they're trying to push back against it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So a lot of understanding in that one a theme
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: or an idea from the movie. Of course it's very blip.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Is the colonialization of it all of course, aliens coming
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: down to try to take over. I mean, this feels
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious in itself. But she actually actually talked about
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: she did not want to do too much on it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: She didn't want to add too much on this. She says,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: she didn't really want to have it be heavy handed. Again,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: she felt like that was too much responsibility for the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: young teenagers to carry in this conversation as well, but
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a small understanding of what it felt like and having
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to defend the land by using their knowledge and their
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: own teaching. So she did it without doing it and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: not being heavy handed in anything. Again, we have this
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: heavy layer of like wanting to talk about all of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: these amazing things that have happened in the indigenous culture,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: but oftentimes it is overshadowed by like the pity porn
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: level of white saburism, level of people wanting to be like, oh,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: tell me the SOB story so I can feel sorry
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: for you, or all these things, and that kind of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: takes away from the celebration of it all or the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: adventure of like this type of storytelling. So there's all
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: these levels that you have to figure out and accept
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and appreciate as the native story person tells you. So
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's that level. But there, it's still there.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's still there. So when when Micah is finally like,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: let's go kill these monsters, she puts on a coat
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that says no no Justice on stolen Land or something
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like that. And then at the end when it has
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the title card show up in the credits, it says
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: slash back and then eclipse and it says land back.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I also thought it was interesting that because so often
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: horror movies it is the people of color the first
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to go, and they're never like mentioned or thought of again. Uh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: but you know, you got your your white scientist, a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: person of authority, who dies very again unceremoniously, and then
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you have the white cop who is clearly like the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: race is just looking to mess with these kids. Yeah,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and then you have the indigenous cop who they respect
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: much more, and she's the one that unfortunately dies and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you ever see again. But when the white cop dies
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: also a figure of authority. It's sort of a right
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: a throwaway.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I did love the coat and I'm like, okay,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and then they put on the the makeup, those ceremonial
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: markings to show that they're there to fight, that they're warriors.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: It was beautiful. I loved everything about it. Again, coming
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: back with it, you don't with the girls from paying,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, go ahead, ladies love these So definitely
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: had a lot of shoutow. I mean, the entire movie
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: is definitely a love letter again to the Inuit culture,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: specifically in this part, and I loved everything about that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: So it is it's like it's there, but it's definitely
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: not petty worn. It's definitely not for you to be like, ah,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: this makes me feel better about my life type of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: such a way. So I do love and appreciate that,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and that's hard to do. And then of course we
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: have the friendships we have, you know, I love. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is about this, like four to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: five group girls who just hold on strong. That really
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is a magic number if you can have it, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: they're all like there for each other even though they're
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: all very different. You know, I gotta love it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I kind of like how it opens when
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you meet Uki. She's sort of bullying the younger she's
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: tricky Mike's younger sister into like helping her her by
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a phone with her saved up money, and so it's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: sort of setting her up to be like a villain
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: or something. And then you like come to find out
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they're good and Mica just like caught up with her
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: on the bike and said give her back the money.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But I kind of liked how it was a little
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It was a little messy, right, their friend their friend
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: group was a little messy, but they did stick with
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: each other when an apology was needed and apology was given. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: but that did make me laugh because I was not
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: expecting that at all.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But then she took the money back again to be like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you can hang with us.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: It was a very d and d character where they
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have that one trait that they're always going to try
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to steal money from you or something.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Deals andins like the ending with her and the reporter
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, I also love that I figures out
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that she can be friends with the other girls and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it takes a little I thought that was a really
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: cute scene because I didn't exactly know. Like at the beginning,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: she's like, why don't you go hang out with the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: people you're all She's like, I don't they wish like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the type of thing, and then you realize it's because
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: they don't. They didn't know each other, and so they
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: were just weirded out by each other. And then they
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: can be like, why didn't you want to hang out
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: with me? Why didn't? Now they're friends. I was like, oh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: and so she gets to start her own little group
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of girlfriends and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what we've
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: been waiting for.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: That was cute because they both were kind of intimidated
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: by each other.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: They just stared at each other side eye was perfect. Honestly,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they sided each other perfectly. They're like yeah, but then
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: they went through this thing and then they decided they
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: would be friends. I thought that was very cute. But
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I love these little lines like they say
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: they talk about they can be annoying. They're like, I'm
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: sorry I was mean because she was michael was mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Like she was real mean, like unnecessarily mean to Uki
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to a certain degree. But then when Micah finally comes
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: back and apologizes because honestly they are the opposites because
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Uki has come already and settled into her who she
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: was and proud of who she was and loving who
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: she is and her culture and the place that lived,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and Michaeh was all the opposite of everything to that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and not wanting to learn about legends. It's kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: like when people grow up, when when friendships grow up
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: and your maturity changes, so the things that you loved
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: as a kid you no longer love, and so when
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that separation happens, it feels like the friendship kind of fades.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: That kind of was that kind of setting, except Michael
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: was much meaner about it, I think, But then I
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: did love that they she comes back to apologize, but like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: but you know you're annoying. Yeah, both things can be true.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Both can be true. I love you, but you really get.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: You also used to tell lies and big story too.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: You just happened to be telling the truth this time.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: You also like to.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Like embellish your story, So both of those things can
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: be a true.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, both can't exist, but.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I love that. And then we have Jesse being the
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in between for all everybody until the boy came in
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: The Thomas I was like, Okay, they really squashed that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: They did. And again, like I said at the top,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I wasn't I thought, I don't, you don't owe me
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: any resolution on that. But I was surprised that because
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: they were like, no, we're not going to argue about
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: this friends first over this guy. I guess maybe it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm queer. I don't know what. I was like,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: what if she's actually what if Mike is actually into
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a girl? Because she's always denying, like who the perfume
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: is for? I was like maybe because they never confirmed anything.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Jesse definitely liked.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jesse was all about Thomas y, but that thing
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: in the end, when they realized he was really useless,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: they kind of let him go. My assumption is like, okay,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: we don't need you. You went away. You wouldn't let
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: us use the Honda, right, come on, man, come on?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Which was the whole I put this as a bros
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: before host thing. I was like, yeah, m hmm, yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: we love it, we love that. And then again like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the friendship that they're very strong coming out together being
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: warriors no one with the girls from paying. I loved
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: that they kept saying that towards the end because they
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: are ready to defend each other as well as as
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: well as their home from these invaders.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: They're all very cute. Do we see Jesse at the end,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: at the very end, Yeah, you know when they do.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: One month later, I.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Don't think in the one month later she was the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: one that was there. She went with my get to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the house when her dad is being protected and helped
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the bookcase officer.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I couldn't remember, Like, we don't get an update on
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: where she is or Lena.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just Uki and Mike and her dad.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Interesting, which comes to one of the other themes family
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: and like family and community and a whole culture her
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: really like trying to figure out her place with her
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: dad and the fact that though he's quiet now, there
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: was an interesting like she does kind of like briefly
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: mentions the kids talking about their families, like alcoholism or
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: not being there or hating certain points to their family
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: life again like when they drink too much. He's mean,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: he does these things. And I thought that was an
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: interesting moment because I think she couldn't. She didn't want
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to walk away from that reality that does happen so often,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: but at the same time she didn't want to focus
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: on it either, and then also having her dad who
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: is not a part of that at all, and coming
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: back and not showing any of those things, which I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: found interesting as well. We also love Grandma. We just
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: wanted to dance. She just loves to dance.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't have a babysitter, so.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Didn't have a bit. All she wanted to do was dance.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I wanted Grandma to go dancing. She was ready, she was,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and she might have been a little tipsy from the
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: way they described her.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, already, mm hmm, longest day of the ear.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Look, Grandma, Grandma needed a dance. But it was interesting
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that she did kind of point that out in the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: script and then they kind of bypassed and then just
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: talking about just adults, what it seems like to kids
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: when adults get together.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I did find that interesting too.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it's always funny to me when you're
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: watching something that's clearly meant for kind of a younger audience,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and if the reality, if we applied reality to it,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, what are their parents? Where are their parents?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But I love how often it's because hocus Pocus has
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: this too. They're out partying at our community event.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: There's nowhere to be seen. I also know where all
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the other kids are. But we have to remember there's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: only two of these creatures. Weirdly, these are really bad aliens.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: They don't know how to do this right apparently.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two, they were not gonna two and they can
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: only attract their like they can only get Well, they
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: did kill things that didn't have blood on them, but
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: they only go after things after the fact with.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: A confusion will be a confusion.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't, you know, we may never know where.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: They the blob win away.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Are they going to come back or we don't know.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: We don't know, but it is interesting to see, like
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: we get to see that respect the father daughter relationship
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: growing and loving her, loving what to do what she
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: does now, or helping her dad be successful now in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a way and not feeling ashamed, and then coming together
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: as a community and embracing the community as well as
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: they thrive. So yeah, I think this is a really
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: cute film. I want more like it. So I hope
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you know, continues with these types of films. I would
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: love the fact again that she centered it on a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: specific village in a community, and I hope that happens
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: again because it's really interesting to see. I feel like
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: we got to see a perspective that we would never
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: in any other moments, Like this is not your typical TV.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: This is like you know, where we are used to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: seeing setups of like New York City or like maybe
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you're the Appalachians, Like we've seen that, it's time. It's
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: time to see this different perspective.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, this was a really fun and I enjoyed it.
• 41:01
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• 41:04
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