Latest / Chuck in the Morning / Chuck & Buck 12-23 Hour 4: Expanding the CFP, Mariners Christmas wishes and one last thing.
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Well, we would like to get it all over ourselves, Rick,
- 0:07Speaker 1: but you got to answer your phone first, Bud, so
- 0:11Speaker 1: we shall see. Ashley is trying hard to get in
- 0:14Speaker 1: touch with him. He has not answered up to this point,
- 0:16Speaker 1: which could be a bit of an issue because they
- 0:19Speaker 1: didn't have anything else playing for this.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Although he is not Okay, that's fine whatever.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I did have one thing that you and I can
- 0:27Speaker 1: have a conversation about, and if he calls back, fine,
- 0:29Speaker 1: so be it. And it's good to have without Chuck here,
- 0:33Speaker 1: because I know he would he would poo poo on
- 0:36Speaker 1: this idea. And ultimately, by the way, thank you for breakfast, Chuck.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Chuck got us bought some booze and an Uber Eats
- 0:46Speaker 1: gift card each one of us.
- 0:47Speaker 2: You got a bottle of wine.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I got a bottle of Woodenville whiskey, and then he
- 0:52Speaker 1: got us each a gift card to Uber Eats, which
- 0:55Speaker 1: Ashley just broke into hers for for us. So I
- 0:59Speaker 1: just had a crunch trap on Chuck. So thanks Chuck,
- 1:02Speaker 1: Thank you Chuck.
- 1:04Speaker 3: He meant to say, though, was we had taco time?
- 1:06Speaker 2: Yeah? We did that.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, that's what I meant to say. Yeah, yeah, Well,
- 1:10Speaker 1: crunch wrap from Taco time.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12Speaker 3: I think they call it a crispy beef buried Yeah.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so good. I love it so much. Get
- 1:17Speaker 2: it all over you.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously, if we have Rick Neuheiseelan, I
- 1:24Speaker 1: was going to have him, you know, give us what
- 1:25Speaker 1: he thought about this last weekend's games, which were different.
- 1:30Speaker 1: There's two of them that were very exciting to fairly
- 1:33Speaker 1: evenly matched teams, with the Miami Texas A and M
- 1:35Speaker 1: game and the Alabama Oklahoma game both good games, and
- 1:39Speaker 1: then the two with the two other teams that the
- 1:41Speaker 1: two others, James Madison pretty much got whooped by Oregon
- 1:45Speaker 1: and they held tough against the second and third stringers
- 1:50Speaker 1: in the second half, but it was not much of
- 1:52Speaker 1: a matchup. And that was even worse than the Old
- 1:54Speaker 1: miss against Tulane game. And yet it's the idea of
- 1:58Speaker 1: you know, I hear people arguing whether or not these
- 2:01Speaker 1: group of five teams should be in right, and it's like,
- 2:04Speaker 1: as a former nai A Baseball player, where we didn't
- 2:08Speaker 1: get to compete in the College Baseball World Series. We
- 2:10Speaker 1: compete in the nai World Baseball World Series, but that
- 2:13Speaker 1: was different. And yet I'll go to my grave saying
- 2:17Speaker 1: that I think we would have been competitive if not
- 2:20Speaker 1: beat the team it was LSU at the time that
- 2:23Speaker 1: won it. The year that we won the national championship,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I would have loved to have gone up against them,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and I think that it would have been It would
- 2:30Speaker 1: have been a cool game. Now, baseball football were completely
- 2:32Speaker 1: different ball games. I understand that, and yet I don't
- 2:35Speaker 1: want to make it, not because of the legal stuff
- 2:38Speaker 1: that Hugh breaks down, right, the legal part of you
- 2:41Speaker 1: have to give these teams a chance or you're just
- 2:44Speaker 1: playing too much, you know, too many favoritism, you know,
- 2:49Speaker 1: like you don't have a chance.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Sorry, you have your own thing. And I don't think
- 2:53Speaker 2: that's right.
- 2:53Speaker 1: I think giving them an opportunity, if they have an
- 2:57Speaker 1: outstanding season, then they should maybe get into it. And
- 3:00Speaker 1: yet this past year like this year, and I understand
- 3:04Speaker 1: the argument of it doesn't matter how big you make
- 3:07Speaker 1: the tournament, there's always going to be somebody left out.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And yet, yeah, I understand that, and I don't want
- 3:13Speaker 1: to get to sixty four teams like March Madness. I
- 3:15Speaker 1: think that's excuse me. I think that would be a
- 3:18Speaker 1: bit excessive. And yet the idea of still keeping two
- 3:22Speaker 1: spots open for group of five teams. So let's just
- 3:26Speaker 1: say this year it still is James Madison and Tulane. Okay,
- 3:29Speaker 1: you guys, you know kick button the sun Belt in
- 3:31Speaker 1: the American Conference, and so you guys are going to
- 3:33Speaker 1: earn your spot. But if you expanded it just to sixteen,
- 3:36Speaker 1: so really it would be fourteen teams, the cutoff there
- 3:39Speaker 1: is basically Notre Dame, BYU, Texas and Vanderbilt would have
- 3:45Speaker 1: gotten in, right, Utah, USC and Arizona would be the
- 3:49Speaker 1: first few teams outta.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Any of them had a legitimate argument on there.
- 3:54Speaker 2: No Utah ends up going ten and two.
- 3:57Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, it's not a bad season and
- 4:00Speaker 1: you really only lost to Texas Tech and BYU. But
- 4:03Speaker 1: so that's where your kind of argument would come from, right,
- 4:06Speaker 1: is if you had it expanded to sixteen, where you
- 4:09Speaker 1: still had two teams that get in from the group five,
- 4:13Speaker 1: I think you're going to have some argument there, but
- 4:15Speaker 1: it's not going to be the same argument as Notre Dame,
- 4:18Speaker 1: as BYU b YU lost two games just to Texas Tech.
- 4:22Speaker 2: That's it.
- 4:22Speaker 1: That's all that we saw throughout the course of the
- 4:24Speaker 1: season as they were better and everybody they stepped on
- 4:26Speaker 1: the field with with the exception of that.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Team, yep, one team.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Texas lost three.
- 4:30Speaker 1: But they play in the SEC, and they were playing
- 4:33Speaker 1: good football at the end of the year, and they're
- 4:35Speaker 1: a legit. I mean, they end up winning there, they
- 4:38Speaker 1: end up winning their conference, or they end up they
- 4:42Speaker 1: end up beating a couple of good teams down the stretch.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I think Texas is one that deserves to being in,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and then Vanderbilt is one of those you typically don't
- 4:49Speaker 1: expect them to be that good, and they have the
- 4:51Speaker 1: best season they've had in forever and they still are
- 4:54Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. I just think there's room
- 4:57Speaker 1: for expansion, right, we talked about it was yesterday, back
- 5:01Speaker 1: in the day when it was just some voting. You
- 5:03Speaker 1: just voted on stuff, and all of a sudden you
- 5:05Speaker 1: get to write off into the sunset as a national
- 5:08Speaker 1: champion or not. And Hugh expresses the idea of the
- 5:11Speaker 1: one with them in BYU and that it was the
- 5:14Speaker 1: closest ever the voting comes down to just a few
- 5:17Speaker 1: guys basically saying I picked that team versus that team,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and that whole entire program, the every person on that
- 5:24Speaker 1: team gets to either be a national championship or doesn't,
- 5:27Speaker 1: just based on voting. And I don't agree with most
- 5:30Speaker 1: of the voting that goes on, whether it's Pro Bowls
- 5:32Speaker 1: or Manager of the Year or AO MVPs. I don't
- 5:37Speaker 1: think that it's I just don't think it's a fool
- 5:39Speaker 1: proof way of achieving something or getting something is based
- 5:44Speaker 1: on voting.
- 5:44Speaker 2: So it used to be garbage the way that they
- 5:46Speaker 2: did it.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Then you have the BCS where you institute some computer
- 5:51Speaker 1: stuff into it. Right now, you're taking analytics in data
- 5:54Speaker 1: and you're trying to pick it by that way. Then
- 5:57Speaker 1: you all of a sudden have a couple teams that
- 5:59Speaker 1: just get to play for it based on the BCS.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Then you finally expand it to four teams that was
- 6:04Speaker 1: much better, were making progress.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Yeah, now twelve teams, And.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I get Chuck's opinion is, let's just let this thing
- 6:10Speaker 1: marinate for a bit, you know what I mean.
- 6:12Speaker 2: It's way better than.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It was, but it doesn't I don't feel like you're
- 6:17Speaker 1: you're definitely up messing with tradition by switching from twelve
- 6:20Speaker 1: teams to sexy team.
- 6:21Speaker 4: So college football doesn't give a rats behind about tradition.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Clearly by the way to college football is going these
- 6:26Speaker 4: days a.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Hundred percent with that, and it just I want to
- 6:29Speaker 1: see the best teams competing, and I also want teams
- 6:34Speaker 1: to have a chance.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because I think with this, with this
- 6:39Speaker 4: whole college football playoff thing, I would tend to lean
- 6:43Speaker 4: more in the camp of what Chuck is saying in
- 6:45Speaker 4: terms of like, Okay, well let's just get through the
- 6:46Speaker 4: twelve and see how it goes, because it does seem
- 6:49Speaker 4: like everything in college football is gung ho, and then
- 6:52Speaker 4: we'll reel it back and try to figure out how
- 6:54Speaker 4: to fix it. So it does, at least in this situation,
- 6:57Speaker 4: it seems like, well, at least they're taking it step
- 6:59Speaker 4: by step. But then at the same time, you look
- 7:01Speaker 4: at this year and they're already talking about expanding it
- 7:03Speaker 4: to sixteen, and they were talking about that before they'd
- 7:05Speaker 4: even picked the field of twelve, so they didn't really
- 7:07Speaker 4: even know what controversies there might or might not be.
- 7:10Speaker 3: So I do think they tend to get ahead of themselves.
- 7:13Speaker 4: So at least in this sense, they're maybe trying to
- 7:15Speaker 4: be a little bit smarter than most of the rest
- 7:18Speaker 4: of college football and what they're dealing with.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I hear you.
- 7:21Speaker 1: I mean I'm typically one that's going to kind of
- 7:23Speaker 1: drag my feet not towards progression or you know, I'm
- 7:26Speaker 1: not one that's against things progressing and moving in a
- 7:29Speaker 1: positive direction.
- 7:31Speaker 2: I'm just one like that.
- 7:32Speaker 1: I'm typically a little bit slower because I actually want
- 7:35Speaker 1: things to play out and see how it looks and
- 7:38Speaker 1: see how it works. I just don't see the negative side, right,
- 7:41Speaker 1: I mean the positive side is you you just add
- 7:46Speaker 1: more games now, more games of meaning.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:48Speaker 1: The idea of getting rid of the underdogs, the Boise
- 7:52Speaker 1: States or you know, the Two Lanes or the James
- 7:54Speaker 1: Ma The idea of giving them no chance, say sorry, guys,
- 7:59Speaker 1: you're just not worthy of it, I think is wrong.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't think that that would be fair to not
- 8:04Speaker 1: give those teams a chance.
- 8:06Speaker 4: Well, what's one of the most exciting games that we've
- 8:08Speaker 4: seen in the in the last twenty years Boise State Oklahoma.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and so you take away those the chance
- 8:15Speaker 4: for those and I know it's not very often, right,
- 8:17Speaker 4: but that game was awesome, right.
- 8:19Speaker 2: It was Jared Sabaranski's kid from Hermison Oregon was.
- 8:21Speaker 4: A quarterback there, You're right, didn't know he didn't get engaged.
- 8:25Speaker 4: It was the running back then engaged.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Right, Yes, but yeah, he's a I'm with you, like
- 8:31Speaker 1: I want the opportunity, and you're going to have more
- 8:34Speaker 1: of those, I think over the course of time. Now,
- 8:37Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen very often. But then again,
- 8:39Speaker 1: let's say that it was usc that has to go
- 8:43Speaker 1: play Indiana. The chance of them beating in Indiana a
- 8:47Speaker 1: sixteen seed beating a one seed, if there's no buyes,
- 8:50Speaker 1: if you were to go that route with the bracket,
- 8:53Speaker 1: it's not likely, but it's more likely than JMU beating them.
- 8:58Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent on. But if you earn the
- 9:02Speaker 1: number one, or the number two, or the three or
- 9:04Speaker 1: the four spot, and if there's no buys like there
- 9:07Speaker 1: is now, if you expanded sixteen, you should get a
- 9:11Speaker 1: somewhat of an easier first game.
- 9:13Speaker 3: It's the same thing as you get the top seeds.
- 9:15Speaker 1: The number two will in the NFL will host the
- 9:18Speaker 1: number seven. Now, the difference between number two and the
- 9:21Speaker 1: NFL number seven is far different than number two and
- 9:23Speaker 1: number twenty six or you know, seventeen, whoever it is
- 9:28Speaker 1: that is a group of five team that gets into
- 9:31Speaker 1: it because we're trying to play fair and square. I mean,
- 9:33Speaker 1: it's not a participation trophy, it's you earned it by
- 9:37Speaker 1: kicking ass on your schedule, the conference that you play in.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Those players have no control over who they are scheduled
- 9:45Speaker 1: to play, but they had control over going out there
- 9:47Speaker 1: and taking care of their business. And so to me,
- 9:49Speaker 1: I want to give those guys a little bit of
- 9:51Speaker 1: a chance. And if all of a sudden, Indiana and
- 9:54Speaker 1: Ohio State this year would get a cupcake of a game, Okay,
- 9:57Speaker 1: well kind of deserved one. Is been the perennial best
- 10:02Speaker 1: team in the in the country for the last couple
- 10:04Speaker 1: of years.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Ohio State.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Indiana crept up last year and said hey, we're a
- 10:09Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with. And this year overcame the
- 10:12Speaker 1: team that looked dominant in Ohio State. They've earned getting
- 10:17Speaker 1: an easier first round game. Now first round game, you
- 10:21Speaker 1: still it's you still got a ways to go to
- 10:23Speaker 1: end up getting to the national championship. To me, I
- 10:26Speaker 1: think there's a way in which I know there's logistics
- 10:28Speaker 1: when teams start playing when you want the season to
- 10:31Speaker 1: be over, by how meaningful you get rid of the
- 10:34Speaker 1: conference championship games. You just basically play your your regular
- 10:37Speaker 1: season to get ranked, and all of a sudden. The
- 10:41Speaker 1: thing that I liked the most about the expansion of
- 10:44Speaker 1: the college football playoffs to twelve teams is you no
- 10:48Speaker 1: longer had that feeling of, oh, I lost when I'm out,
- 10:52Speaker 1: because even when it was four, you felt like, boy,
- 10:55Speaker 1: if if I didn't, if I'm not in the SEC
- 10:58Speaker 1: and I lost a game, I'm out of the college
- 11:00Speaker 1: football Playoffs. I mean that that just isn't You can't
- 11:04Speaker 1: expect a team to be perfect and unless they're in
- 11:07Speaker 1: the SEC, and then the SEC, it's like, well, you
- 11:09Speaker 1: lost to Georgia, that's only like a half a loss.
- 11:11Speaker 1: You're still gonna make it if you run the table
- 11:13Speaker 1: the rest of the way. That's not fair in any way,
- 11:15Speaker 1: shape or form. So now they expand it to twelve,
- 11:18Speaker 1: you've kind of fixed that problem. But you have, without
- 11:21Speaker 1: a doubt, left legitimately good teams. I would say Texas
- 11:26Speaker 1: and Notre Dame for sure, BYU maybe in the same boat,
- 11:31Speaker 1: but a little bit less than and Vanderbilt simply because
- 11:35Speaker 1: Vanderbilt ten and two playing in the SEC. They I mean,
- 11:40Speaker 1: this was their Cinderella moment. This was their look at
- 11:43Speaker 1: what we did this year, and then they're on the
- 11:45Speaker 1: outside looking in to me, I think you can there's
- 11:48Speaker 1: a legitimate argument that they should be able to have
- 11:51Speaker 1: a chance to kind of see if they can shock
- 11:53Speaker 1: the world to some degree. Now they would have to
- 11:55Speaker 1: go play against a Georgia or an Oregon or a
- 11:57Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Well, that's an uphill about you might be
- 12:00Speaker 1: one and done and yet you got a chance versus
- 12:03Speaker 1: them just sitting there. There's a couple of hundred guys.
- 12:07Speaker 1: If you just take the teams that feel like they
- 12:08Speaker 1: maybe could have made it and should have made it,
- 12:10Speaker 1: that are gonna go their entire life and they're gonna
- 12:13Speaker 1: be talking to people around a campfire or sitting at
- 12:15Speaker 1: a party somewhere and saying, yeah, we got screwed, we
- 12:18Speaker 1: got screwed. We didn't get a chance to go compete, right,
- 12:20Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to kind of live with
- 12:22Speaker 1: that for the rest of their life. I think there's
- 12:24Speaker 1: a way where you don't have to have that, And
- 12:26Speaker 1: if you do, it's so far down the list that
- 12:29Speaker 1: the argument against you making it Michigan. Yeah, the argument
- 12:32Speaker 1: against Virginia making it the argument against Houston or whoever.
- 12:36Speaker 4: I always the extra people that are left out of
- 12:39Speaker 4: the March Badness Tournament, right, Sorry, if you're the seventieth
- 12:42Speaker 4: best team in the country, but no, you don't deserve
- 12:44Speaker 4: a spot in the tournament.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So I don't know. I would just I mean, it's
- 12:49Speaker 2: where I would go.
- 12:49Speaker 1: And I'm not typically one that's just quick to, you know,
- 12:53Speaker 1: throw something away and let's try something new. I'm almost
- 12:56Speaker 1: always am I one like, I think we should see
- 12:59Speaker 1: how this thing planned hands out. I just in this situation,
- 13:02Speaker 1: I just don't see the negative in it. I don't
- 13:05Speaker 1: see adding four more teams to the mix as a
- 13:09Speaker 1: big deal.
- 13:09Speaker 4: No, and I would agree I don't see that either.
- 13:12Speaker 4: I just think the only thing that the only problem
- 13:14Speaker 4: I have and why I say I side with where
- 13:16Speaker 4: Chuck is coming from, like let's see it through. Is
- 13:18Speaker 4: at least get through the season you're in with the
- 13:20Speaker 4: decision you made before you start thinking about adding it.
- 13:24Speaker 4: And once you've done the selection show and then you
- 13:26Speaker 4: see the people that are left out and you see
- 13:28Speaker 4: how the controversy. Okay, well, now how can we avoid
- 13:31Speaker 4: that or fix that for next year, or how can
- 13:32Speaker 4: we ramp that up. How can we adjust all of
- 13:35Speaker 4: those things? You've gone through the first round of games,
- 13:37Speaker 4: you can now see, how does that play out? I mean,
- 13:39Speaker 4: do I think it would have been Yeah, better to
- 13:42Speaker 4: see Notre Dame and by you in there playing some
- 13:47Speaker 4: better competition. Yeah, that would have been great versus seeing blowouts.
- 13:51Speaker 4: But you're still gonna see blowouts regardless of who you're
- 13:53Speaker 4: letting in.
- 13:54Speaker 3: So I do think sixteen is probably gonna be the
- 13:57Speaker 3: sweet spot. That's where.
- 13:58Speaker 4: I don't think that they should go above that at all.
- 14:00Speaker 4: I would like to see them do it next year.
- 14:03Speaker 4: But I do think they were right in at least
- 14:05Speaker 4: taking the step to go to the twelve first.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yep, well, yeah, I'm fine with that.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I mean, if they would have jumped straight to sixteen,
- 14:11Speaker 1: there would, without a doubt be a thought of could
- 14:15Speaker 1: you have seen what twelve was about?
- 14:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 14:17Speaker 1: And ultimately we are seeing what it's about, and it's
- 14:20Speaker 1: going to be great. I mean, it's going to be fine.
- 14:21Speaker 1: I don't think that the to me, when I hear
- 14:24Speaker 1: people get real loud and real boisterous about this is
- 14:28Speaker 1: just garbage.
- 14:29Speaker 2: The whole thing is a joke.
- 14:30Speaker 1: The college football is a joke because JMU and Tulane
- 14:33Speaker 1: couldn't compete with the teams they played. It's like, okay,
- 14:36Speaker 1: well just take that out of the equation for a second.
- 14:39Speaker 2: You still have ten really good football teams.
- 14:42Speaker 4: I mean, Alabama got blown out by Georgia and the
- 14:43Speaker 4: conference championship.
- 14:45Speaker 3: So was that a joke?
- 14:46Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, it's true. Yeah, And well it.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Don't just happen when a small team plays a bigger team.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Right yeah. So true.
- 14:53Speaker 1: And yet it's to me, I like where we're at,
- 14:55Speaker 1: And yet I don't think I have a hard time
- 14:58Speaker 1: recognizing that there's a giant negative on the backside of it.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I just don't get that.
- 15:03Speaker 1: I don't see it as as like, well, you really
- 15:06Speaker 1: just diluted the product, right, I mean I get that, sure,
- 15:09Speaker 1: and the idea of well there's always going to be
- 15:12Speaker 1: I'm not saying it because I want to appease Notre dame.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Notre dame.
- 15:16Speaker 1: You you you think you're holier than now literally that
- 15:19Speaker 1: you don't have to be in a conference.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Okay, Well you if you stick to your.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Guns with that, you're going to have an uphill battle
- 15:27Speaker 1: because they are going to take that into account. They're
- 15:30Speaker 1: going to take it into account that, Well, you're not
- 15:32Speaker 1: scheduling a whole bunch of tough teams and the team
- 15:35Speaker 1: that you did Miami, they beat you, and we're giving
- 15:37Speaker 1: them the nod if you're because you're going to be
- 15:39Speaker 1: on the outside the idea that they have to go
- 15:42Speaker 1: eleven and one to make it.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Yeah, you've chosen that pass.
- 15:46Speaker 4: That's what the smaller teams, the smaller conferences have to do.
- 15:49Speaker 4: So undefeated, one loss, ye should be treated like that.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and so I just don't I
- 15:56Speaker 1: don't fully understand where the upheaval is. I'm not trying
- 16:00Speaker 1: to make it to where Notre Dame Texas feel that
- 16:04Speaker 1: they didn't get snubbed because I understand that somebody is
- 16:09Speaker 1: going to be on the bubble and be on the
- 16:10Speaker 1: out when they think they should be in, because the
- 16:13Speaker 1: criteria changes once you no matter where you draw the line,
- 16:16Speaker 1: there's gonna be somebody left out and they're gonna feel like, well,
- 16:19Speaker 1: compared to that team, Okay, well, Utah, you can say that,
- 16:24Speaker 1: but you didn't have a bunch of You didn't have
- 16:27Speaker 1: a bunch of Utah. You're thinking, okay that you had
- 16:32Speaker 1: the same record as Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt gets any you
- 16:34Speaker 1: don't okay, did you play the.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Same teams that Vanderbilt played? No, you didn't. That just
- 16:40Speaker 2: there you go to me.
- 16:41Speaker 1: It makes it to where that bubble conversation is way
- 16:45Speaker 1: more cut and dry. And even though it won't be
- 16:47Speaker 1: cut and dry because humans and they have rooting interests
- 16:50Speaker 1: and they they're gonna think that their favoritism being played.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better than robots picking it.
- 16:56Speaker 1: And and I think that it's a it's the way
- 16:58Speaker 1: in which you can get the close tournament of having
- 17:02Speaker 1: all the teams that legitimately could come out on the
- 17:04Speaker 1: other side as the national championship and deservingly so.
- 17:08Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe it's something they'll end up doing.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised simply because the NCAA's be like, wait,
- 17:14Speaker 1: more money, more teams, more money. Yeah, we're gonna go
- 17:18Speaker 1: ahead and do that. Whether they're doing it for the
- 17:19Speaker 1: right reasons or not, anyway, who knows. We're gonna come
- 17:23Speaker 1: back after this, and then I'm gonna give Ashley one
- 17:25Speaker 1: more chance to ask Santa for something. I'm gonna end
- 17:30Speaker 1: up having a conversation with Santa later on today on
- 17:32Speaker 1: my way home, and so this is gonna be Astley's
- 17:35Speaker 1: last time to ask him for what she wants for
- 17:37Speaker 1: the Mariners right here at Sports Radio ninety three point
- 17:40Speaker 1: three KGRFM. Merry Christmas, everybody out there, thanks for joining
- 17:44Speaker 1: the show. We got a couple more segments here, but
- 17:46Speaker 1: this is our last one before Christmas to ask for
- 17:50Speaker 1: what you want. I mean, I might. I used to
- 17:54Speaker 1: circle everything in the calendar or the catalog. Excuse me
- 17:58Speaker 1: that when my mom would be like, all right, circle
- 18:00Speaker 1: what you want and you go to the toy section, obviously,
- 18:02Speaker 1: and I circled everything, and yet my Mom's like, you
- 18:05Speaker 1: know that Santa can't give you everything, right, And of
- 18:09Speaker 1: course I know that, and yet Santa typically did get
- 18:13Speaker 1: me something. And so I'm wondering, Ash, if this is
- 18:16Speaker 1: your final time from your mouth to Santa's ears that
- 18:20Speaker 1: you get to ask him for something, you can go
- 18:23Speaker 1: ahead and ask for something big. Maybe you ask for
- 18:25Speaker 1: something big, Maybe ask for something in the middle, and
- 18:28Speaker 1: maybe ask for something you feel is more Mariner esque, right,
- 18:31Speaker 1: and more something that Santa Mariner Santa would would be actually.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Willing to give you. What do you want right now?
- 18:38Speaker 2: For Christmas?
- 18:38Speaker 4: I think I think I'm gonna have to ask for
- 18:42Speaker 4: Gino Suarez.
- 18:43Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'd like to have him back.
- 18:46Speaker 4: I don't want to be the team that keeps that
- 18:49Speaker 4: has him and then lets him go and then he
- 18:53Speaker 4: does well, and then brings him back, and then lets
- 18:55Speaker 4: him go and then he does well and then wants.
- 18:56Speaker 3: To bring him back again.
- 18:58Speaker 4: So I know he didn't do very well for us
- 19:01Speaker 4: batting wise while he was here, but he obviously had
- 19:03Speaker 4: a really good season. It just didn't translate once he
- 19:07Speaker 4: got here. I don't think that that would be the
- 19:10Speaker 4: case next year, So I would like to give him
- 19:14Speaker 4: another full season and see what he can do. Plus,
- 19:16Speaker 4: I think his energy that he brings is really valuable
- 19:19Speaker 4: to this team, and I know that he is very
- 19:22Speaker 4: well loved by everyone in the clubhouse.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you. I mean, I think that the
- 19:26Speaker 1: power numbers. You know, it's a couple of years ago
- 19:28Speaker 1: when they were getting when they moved on from him,
- 19:31Speaker 1: where they were thinking, okay, too many strikeouts and it's
- 19:34Speaker 1: just a matter of time until he kind of falls
- 19:36Speaker 1: off right where it's just even more of a strikeout
- 19:38Speaker 1: or nothing guy, and maybe the home runs dip because
- 19:43Speaker 1: you know, you hit fifty homers, you can strike out
- 19:45Speaker 1: a bunch. If you hit twenty two homers and hit
- 19:48Speaker 1: two hundred and strike out, you know, two times a game,
- 19:51Speaker 1: that's not as useful.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Obviously.
- 19:53Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't mind Gino at a you know, I
- 19:58Speaker 5: don't know, Oh, thirteen fourteen million dollars a year for
- 20:02Speaker 5: a couple of years.
- 20:03Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing I'm not gonna worry about.
- 20:05Speaker 4: I'm not gonna worry that the Mariners are going to
- 20:06Speaker 4: overpay him to keep him, because the Mariners don't overpay people.
- 20:09Speaker 2: That's true.
- 20:09Speaker 3: So that when I yeah, so people are like, oh,
- 20:12Speaker 3: we don't want to overpay. I don't want anyone to
- 20:14Speaker 3: overpay him.
- 20:14Speaker 1: How about this one for you, Here's one's a tug
- 20:17Speaker 1: at your heart a little bit, Gino. Regardless of what
- 20:21Speaker 1: the money is, Gino, you love him and he brings
- 20:24Speaker 1: something to the table on the field, off the field,
- 20:26Speaker 1: in the clubhouse or Bregman. Now, obviously you're spending way
- 20:31Speaker 1: more Bregman.
- 20:33Speaker 3: But where's gitting more?
- 20:35Speaker 2: You're getting more?
- 20:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a tough one.
- 20:38Speaker 4: I mean, I guess my heart would stop myself from
- 20:41Speaker 4: allowing the Bregman thing to even come into my mind
- 20:44Speaker 4: because I just don't think it would ever happen. I
- 20:46Speaker 4: don't think we'd pay him that much or what he
- 20:48Speaker 4: wants I should say. I mean, if they decided to say, yeah,
- 20:53Speaker 4: we think he's worth it, we're gonna pay him by
- 20:54Speaker 4: all means, bring him in, like that's great. I just
- 20:57Speaker 4: think more realistically, they're gonna go with the one they know,
- 21:02Speaker 4: and the one they know is Gino.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would be half the price. Yeah, probably
- 21:07Speaker 1: half the price is Bregman twice the player.
- 21:12Speaker 2: It's hard to say. He's not gonna get a hundred homers.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I know that, but I think that he just brings
- 21:16Speaker 1: more to the table, not a little bit more defensively.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Not that Gino's bad by any stretch, but I don't
- 21:22Speaker 1: know if he's quite as good. I think they both
- 21:25Speaker 1: would be good in the clubhouse different ways. One's good vibes,
- 21:28Speaker 1: one's gritty, grind, go play the game hard.
- 21:32Speaker 2: It's all about.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Winning and and and whatnot. Not that Gino isn't, but
- 21:36Speaker 1: you get you get my point. I think, yeah, I would.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I would choose Bregman, even though part of me is like, yeah,
- 21:41Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. They're not going to
- 21:43Speaker 1: jump into those waters. I don't think. I I think
- 21:48Speaker 1: another one that I've always kind of liked, and yet
- 21:52Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily why is Harrison Bader as a
- 21:57Speaker 1: guy that as a d H an inexpensive DH. I
- 22:01Speaker 1: think you get him for less than ten million bucks
- 22:03Speaker 1: a year, and you could do it on a short
- 22:05Speaker 1: term deal to where if it's not working out, you
- 22:07Speaker 1: move on. I think you get him less than what
- 22:09Speaker 1: you paid for Mitch Garver well, and you're gonna get more. Okay,
- 22:14Speaker 1: you're gonna get more out of him offensively. He's not
- 22:16Speaker 1: great defensively, but that's fine. You have a pretty set
- 22:19Speaker 1: outfield at this point in time. But Bart, if you
- 22:21Speaker 1: have an injury, you want to be able to put
- 22:23Speaker 1: somebody in there that you don't feel like you're going backwards.
- 22:25Speaker 1: And then he could also DH. I mean he could,
- 22:27Speaker 1: he could. He's not a guy that is just one
- 22:31Speaker 1: side of the plate or the other, like you know
- 22:34Speaker 1: the Ben Refschneider that we just signed yesterday. He rakes
- 22:39Speaker 1: lefties and he's not good against right handed pitching, and
- 22:42Speaker 1: so I supposed what they're probably planning on doing is
- 22:46Speaker 1: figuring out a way to have I don't know, maybe
- 22:50Speaker 1: the backup catcher when if there's a rity on the mound,
- 22:53Speaker 1: maybe the backup that's when the backup catcher catches and
- 22:56Speaker 1: you put Cal in the DH spot being a switch hitter,
- 23:00Speaker 1: that's will you use his DH where he's only half
- 23:03Speaker 1: the DH. It's that or they find another DH to.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Platoon with him.
- 23:09Speaker 1: I think if you do it the way that I
- 23:10Speaker 1: expressed first, where Col's DH and and you bring in
- 23:15Speaker 1: your backup catcher, you're going backwards offensively for sure.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I and I get that for I don't
- 23:21Speaker 4: think that that's the route. It didn't work out very
- 23:23Speaker 4: well last year, so I don't think that that's the
- 23:25Speaker 4: situation you should have. You're putting yourself in too risky
- 23:28Speaker 4: of a position in those situations. I think what you
- 23:31Speaker 4: were talking about earlier today with having ref Schneider ref
- 23:36Speaker 4: Schneider on you know, batting against lefties as your DH
- 23:39Speaker 4: and then bringing in someone like Carlos Santana to face
- 23:41Speaker 4: the righties, someone again who you know, and we know
- 23:45Speaker 4: the Mariners love to have players they are familiar with.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's I think to some degree,
- 23:52Speaker 1: for a while, Jerry maybe discounted a little bit too
- 23:56Speaker 1: much the importance of the clubhouse.
- 23:58Speaker 2: I think you don't have to have it to win.
- 24:00Speaker 1: I mean, you can have a bunch of dudes that
- 24:02Speaker 1: really don't like each other, but they're really good baseball players,
- 24:04Speaker 1: and they're gonna go out and win a bunch of games.
- 24:07Speaker 1: But if you're gonna be somewhere throughout the course of
- 24:10Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games, even those that don't
- 24:12Speaker 1: get along, that maybe don't see eydie on a bunch
- 24:14Speaker 1: of stuff, they're gonna kind of grind together and they'll
- 24:18Speaker 1: find themselves in a sense of sympatico. They'll find themselves
- 24:22Speaker 1: in a mode where they're doing what they need to
- 24:24Speaker 1: do for each other with one another, and so it
- 24:28Speaker 1: ends up playing where everything's kind of smooth sailing right now,
- 24:32Speaker 1: and then you're gonna run into those hiccups. And that's
- 24:34Speaker 1: where a good manager comes in to get everybody rowing
- 24:37Speaker 1: in the same direction, even if you're not necessarily wanting
- 24:39Speaker 1: to kick it with each other outside of the field
- 24:42Speaker 1: of play. So I mean, I hope they add some stuff.
- 24:46Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy with the fact they added Rob Reschneider.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I mean, he's based on war he was the best
- 24:52Speaker 1: left fielder on the market, all right. I mean he
- 24:55Speaker 1: was the highest rated left fielder. Now that's a guy
- 24:58Speaker 1: that you know, puts them all in play and hits
- 25:01Speaker 1: a bunch of line drives and understands how to handle
- 25:04Speaker 1: the bat when it's against a lefty. Yeah, And so
- 25:07Speaker 1: they definitely upgraded with that move. And yet I want
- 25:10Speaker 1: them to continue it upgrade because you did lose some
- 25:12Speaker 1: pieces Polanco and Gino. You have not made up for
- 25:16Speaker 1: all of that yet with a backup catcher and a
- 25:17Speaker 1: platoon dh slash utility guys.
- 25:20Speaker 2: So we shall see what they do.
- 25:22Speaker 1: But from our mouths to Santa's Ears and the Mariners,
- 25:26Speaker 1: go ahead and keep on getting us some presents.
- 25:28Speaker 2: We like presents.
- 25:29Speaker 1: On the other side, yep, we're going to do our
- 25:32Speaker 1: one last thing and wish everybody to marry very merry,
- 25:36Speaker 1: very merry, very merry Christmas. On the other side, here
- 25:39Speaker 1: at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, oh, one
- 25:49Speaker 1: last thing before Christmas. Maybe the best one last thing
- 25:52Speaker 1: of the year. Definitely the best one last thing this year,
- 25:57Speaker 1: of the end of this year.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely the best one last thing of this week.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Well O Fridays will probably be no will booze news.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Yep, that won't be a one last thing.
- 26:09Speaker 3: There you go.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyways, Merry Christmas everybody out there, thanks for listening.
- 26:14Speaker 1: It's fun doing the show. It's a lot more doing
- 26:17Speaker 1: it from this chair, come to find out. And yet
- 26:19Speaker 1: I do feel more comfortable each time that I get
- 26:21Speaker 1: to do it. And Ashley, thank you very much because
- 26:24Speaker 1: you make it easy. So thank you, thank you very
- 26:27Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for one last thing before
- 26:30Speaker 1: we got to turn this thing over to MJ and
- 26:32Speaker 1: the wonderful Christopher kid.
- 26:34Speaker 2: That's your one last thing.
- 26:35Speaker 4: I just want to say same thing, like, hey, thanks
- 26:37Speaker 4: to everyone that has listened to us and is listening
- 26:40Speaker 4: to us this holiday week. I know the schedules are
- 26:42Speaker 4: on and we've still got all our favorite people texting
- 26:45Speaker 4: in and so being a part of the show. And
- 26:46Speaker 4: I think, you know, I especially with the text line.
- 26:50Speaker 4: We don't utilize it a lot in our show, but
- 26:53Speaker 4: we do respond to people, and I do want the
- 26:55Speaker 4: people that do take the time to text in to
- 26:58Speaker 4: know that we do see your tech, so we do
- 27:00Speaker 4: appreciate it, and you know, we might not be able
- 27:03Speaker 4: to write back all the time. But that doesn't mean
- 27:05Speaker 4: that we're not paying attention to them and we're not
- 27:08Speaker 4: really appreciative of the things that you say, and not
- 27:10Speaker 4: even like praising us, nothing like that.
- 27:12Speaker 3: I'm saying, just participating in the show.
- 27:14Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of fun to have to be
- 27:16Speaker 4: doing this and knowing that people are playing along.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is weird sitting here in our little box,
- 27:23Speaker 1: right and you're in your own little room and you
- 27:26Speaker 1: know that there's people listening, but the text line is
- 27:29Speaker 1: kind of the only real way that you know for sure. Now,
- 27:32Speaker 1: there's a bunch of turds that like to just you know,
- 27:35Speaker 1: say stuff and I want to do what DK did.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Sometimes actually not really, I don't care that much.
- 27:41Speaker 4: But some of the people that are turds that think
- 27:43Speaker 4: they're not. At least there's some that are turds and
- 27:45Speaker 4: know they are and are trying to get under our skin.
- 27:47Speaker 4: The ones that think they're totally within the realm of reason.
- 27:50Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you're there, you're frightening.
- 27:53Speaker 2: You're a bit off base there, friend, But yeah, it is.
- 27:56Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are in the Christmas
- 27:57Speaker 1: spirit because there has been a lot of nice one
- 28:00Speaker 1: telling us good job, and yeah, merry Christmas, and merry
- 28:03Speaker 1: Christmas to everyone, even those that hate I don't care
- 28:06Speaker 1: Rick well, and merry Christmas to you.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Still, yes, I do want to address one specific test.
- 28:09Speaker 4: We got a text we got from the two five
- 28:11Speaker 4: to three asking or just saying, I miss the Twelve
- 28:15Speaker 4: Days of Christmas. And I know it was probably a
- 28:17Speaker 4: lot of extra work for you, Ashley, but I miss it.
- 28:19Speaker 4: So I to that person, I will just say this, Yes,
- 28:21Speaker 4: I apologize. I have not done the Twelve Days of
- 28:23Speaker 4: Christmas the last two years. I had family things going
- 28:26Speaker 4: on at the holidays both last year and this year.
- 28:28Speaker 4: I lost my dad last year, and we had Mark's
- 28:31Speaker 4: aunt unfortunately died just a couple of weeks ago. So
- 28:33Speaker 4: I've not been in a very festive Christmas mood in
- 28:37Speaker 4: terms of the energy that it takes to put together
- 28:41Speaker 4: the Twelve Days of Christmas.
- 28:43Speaker 3: But next year, I promise I will do it.
- 28:46Speaker 2: It is a good one.
- 28:47Speaker 1: But yes, we do have lives outside of this and
- 28:50Speaker 1: try to even in not so fun times like you
- 28:53Speaker 1: were talking about, try to still stay the straight and
- 28:56Speaker 1: arrow and stay on task and do what we can.
- 28:58Speaker 1: But that's some extra stuff that is a lot of
- 29:00Speaker 1: work that you end up putting into to get that
- 29:03Speaker 1: thing to where it is. It's, uh, there's a reason
- 29:05Speaker 1: they haven't asked.
- 29:06Speaker 4: Me to well, And you know, you just got to
- 29:08Speaker 4: be in the right frame of mind to put something
- 29:10Speaker 4: together like that. And when you're being pulled in a
- 29:13Speaker 4: completely opposite direction, it's hard to.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Get the focus there.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It takes all the focus you can muster
- 29:20Speaker 1: to just do the four hours of actual radio.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Yeah, beyond exactly.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Trying to find some festive mood to get in when
- 29:28Speaker 1: you're heading in the opposite direction.
- 29:29Speaker 2: I'm with you.
- 29:29Speaker 1: By the way, we did get another texture just now said,
- 29:31Speaker 1: how do I get Bucky autograph?
- 29:33Speaker 3: I'm right now, send him in?
- 29:36Speaker 2: Ye, send them in. I do.
- 29:37Speaker 1: I sign them everyone that comes, and I always will.
- 29:40Speaker 1: And because otherwise my mom would be like, I'm so disappointed.
- 29:44Speaker 4: Just make sure when you send it in that you
- 29:46Speaker 4: put an envelope with your return address back on it
- 29:49Speaker 4: to make it easier.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Yeah, because I probably won't. I don't even know where
- 29:53Speaker 1: I would ask me.
- 29:54Speaker 3: You'd have to find.
- 29:54Speaker 4: You don't have like it just a place that has
- 29:56Speaker 4: all of the stockpile of office supplies.
- 29:58Speaker 3: We don't know where that is.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Oh, we should get on that.
- 30:00Speaker 1: I mean, with all of the PayPal ad revenue that
- 30:03Speaker 1: we get, maybe we could get some stamps and stuff
- 30:04Speaker 1: so they could send stuff back to those that forget
- 30:07Speaker 1: a self address stamped envelope. I doubt it, though, so
- 30:10Speaker 1: I would do it yourself, send it in with a
- 30:12Speaker 1: stamped envelope, and I will sign it and send it
- 30:15Speaker 1: off the same day that I get it guaranteed. All right,
- 30:19Speaker 1: My one last thing, what was it? I was going
- 30:22Speaker 1: to say, and now I got totally distracted.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Sorry, that's all right.
- 30:27Speaker 2: I had something too, and it was good. Maybe it
- 30:29Speaker 2: wasn't that.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Good, obviously, I think it was probably great.
- 30:33Speaker 1: It was the DK it. I saw a new video
- 30:35Speaker 1: on the DK thing. Now both these things can be
- 30:39Speaker 1: true at the same time. It's a video of basically
- 30:42Speaker 1: Tom Pelichero shared this video. This is after DK punched
- 30:47Speaker 1: this dude. It shows the guy coming back to his seat,
- 30:49Speaker 1: ripping his shirt off in his blue wig to find
- 30:52Speaker 1: he has blue dyed hair underneath the blue tinsel wig
- 30:56Speaker 1: and he says that was the goal. Oh, that was
- 31:00Speaker 1: the goal. He was doing it on purpose, trying to
- 31:03Speaker 1: get it right. Now, I wouldn't be surprised because he's thinking,
- 31:05Speaker 1: that's paycheck, right, He's gonna sue. You shouldn't get anything. No,
- 31:09Speaker 1: if that's your goal, it's say something to get punched
- 31:11Speaker 1: in the face by a pro athlete so that you
- 31:13Speaker 1: can make money hopefully that judge. The judge sees it
- 31:16Speaker 1: and says, yeah, you don't get jack.
- 31:19Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you get a skull. Yeah.
- 31:22Speaker 1: And and well, I mean if if I mean you
- 31:25Speaker 1: just got to keep yourself in check, DK, I think
- 31:28Speaker 1: that that is one truth. You have to keep yourself
- 31:31Speaker 1: in check, regulate your emotions. You can't do that, period,
- 31:35Speaker 1: point blank.
- 31:36Speaker 2: That's it. That's all there is to it.
- 31:38Speaker 1: On the flip side of it, if you think that
- 31:40Speaker 1: you get to go do whatever you want with no repercussions,
- 31:44Speaker 1: hoping that he does something and you can get a
- 31:47Speaker 1: paycheck out of it, you deserve nothing either, and you're
- 31:49Speaker 1: just a bad human. So Merry Christmas to everyone except
- 31:52Speaker 1: for that guy. And yeah, other than that, I don't know.
- 31:57Speaker 1: I just want to wish everybody a merry Christmas except
- 31:59Speaker 1: for that guy, and just enjoy your time with your family.
- 32:04Speaker 1: You know, we don't know for sure how many Christmases
- 32:07Speaker 1: and how many New Year's is you have. So hug
- 32:10Speaker 1: your loved ones, tell them you love them, am spend
- 32:13Speaker 1: some time with them, enjoy the time. It's not about
- 32:15Speaker 1: the presence, It's about the family celebration and being good
- 32:20Speaker 1: to one another. So until I see you, guys, or
- 32:24Speaker 1: until I talk to you guys again, Merry Christmas from me,
- 32:26Speaker 1: from Chuck, I'm sure from Ashley and the rest of
- 32:29Speaker 1: us here at KJR. Up Next, we got MJ and
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