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02/21/24 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live: Healthy Lifestyles and Legislative Adventures with Greg Thomas · The Dave Allen Show

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that have called this session of a legislature lackluster. That's the word that
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they use, lackluster. What does Greg Thomas think about that? We'll talk
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to him about that a little bit later on. Billie Snyder from the Shape
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Shop is here for her monthly visit. Hey, how are you, my
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dear rider? Well, how are you? Thank you? I'm doing great
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And before I do anything else, I need your help with something. This
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morning, I got to take time to wish my wife, ruth Ann a
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very happy birthday, and I second that. Now I'm not at liberty to
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say how old she is. Oh my god, you'll be killed, but
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I've had way too much fun with this. In advertising terms, she has
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entered what is known as the final demo. Now what I mean by that
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In the world of advertising and ratings and both television and radio, we have
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age demos, age groups. You know you have twelve plus is where it
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starts for ratings for your twelve plus and then it kind of varies. They'll
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break it down into eighteen to thirty five or twenty one to thirty or thirty
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to fifty four, again not giving her age. But the final demo is
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fifty five plus. And that's all I'm gonna say. Well, she's entered
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the final demo. I concur and I'm not saying any more than that.
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You've you met my wife. She's a lovely lady. She is, Yes,
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she is, I mean, way too lovely to be with me.
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I can tell you that I wasn't gonna go there. I'll go there.
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I don't care. It's a it's a. It's what it is. It
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is what it is. There are certain times you have to keep your mouth
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shuting. Yes, indeed, it's a lot of them. So there are
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things with you. Everything good, things are good. I developed something called
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vertigo. So I want you to know there's three of you this morning.
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Well, I mean, I mean, we can barely handle one of me.
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Now you've got three of me. Yeah, but it's it's getting better.
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I don't even know what brought it up. How do they treat vertigo?
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I mean, I've heard about it, but I don't know what.
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A lovely doctor and she gave me a drug just to help with the dizziness
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and it is helping, but I feel like I've just had a bottle of
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cheap wine. Not that I know how you fall out. I'm just speaking
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from experience. Somebody told me that. But anyway, and it's going to
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pass, I know. And there's a certain exercise that my daughter has helped
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me do because she also has suffered with it. And it's a weird feeling.
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Yeah, So what are the symptoms? I mean, I know it
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came from nowhere. Like I got out of bed, my bathroom was spinning,
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and then when I lie down, my bedroom was spinning. So then
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I realized, you know, I have an issue here. So I saw
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some help on Monday. I got some help, and I mean, I
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can drive, I can do all the things I do, but it's it's
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a weird feeling. I mean, is it something because I know, I
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know you're not a big proponent of medication, but this is one of those
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things that I mean, diet is not gonna go going to help in any
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way, nothing at all to do with it. And I'm happy to tell
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you I haven't missed a meal, of course, not, of course not.
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I mean, there's some things that are more important than some other things,
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right, yeah, I mean I'm eating and but definitely there's some dizzyness
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here. Okay, Well, we hope that you get better, hope you
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get over there, because I've known people that have that have suffered from vertigo
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and they say it's it's a very rough thing because it's one of those things,
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as you said, there's really there's very little treatment for it. I'll
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put it that way. I mean, it's not somebody you could take a
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pill for, not something you can you know, change your lifestyle. It
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just kind of happens sometimes, I guess. So it has happened to me,
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and I'm just gonna deal with it. But I'm not going to stop
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doing anything. And that's just speaks of you know, my whole attitude about
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life, right, keep going, keep doing, and that's what I'm That's
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what I am doing. Okay, there are three of you. Well,
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like I said, there's people trying to get rid of you know, at
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least a couple of them. So, uh so what's what's what's new?
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Had a very interesting conversation with a person I called to make an inquiry about
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something and she asked me if I could meet her on a certain day,
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and I said, well, I work. She said, what do you
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do. I said, well, I own the Shape Shop. She said
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what I said, I owned the Shape Shop. She said, where is
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it? I said, we moved to seven zero six Central Avenue back in
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twenty twenty. We closed Patrick Street twenty nineteen. She said, I love
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Patrick Street. She said, I would go to weight Watchers, but before
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I would do anything, I'd go in and give my order at Shape Shop.
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And she was so unbelievably astonished that we still exist and we are available.
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She said, I used to have the Crunchy Sunday. I said,
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well, what about the brownie Sunday and the tin roof Sunday. She said,
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just give me your address. So again, seven zero six Central Avenue,
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and it's just a block and a half west of five Corners. You
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know, when you're at five Corners you have to make a little bit of
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a maneuver to get on Central Avenue. That's why they call it five Corners.
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And we have a beautiful shop, you do, And we just want
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people to know we didn't close up. We didn't get swallowed up from the
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pandemic. Although when we opened officially February twenty four, in twenty we were
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only opened for a week and a half because gree timing. Yes, oh
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I must say yes, and we not listen to Shape Shop wasn't the only
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business that's all sure, everybody well, and you're one of the ones that
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were able to survive it because across America, a lot of people, a
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lot of businesses I'm talking about have to throw up, did not, especially
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in the restaurant in the service industry like that, because they they just couldn't
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make it. But you were able to make it. What has led to
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the success of the Shape Shop in your opinion? I think what we do,
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and that is we make things that are fresh, clean, delicious.
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Our muffins, our Dippy doos, our ice cream, the ice the ice
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cream for Dippy Doo's is low sugar. We also have an ice cream machine
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that puts out sugar free ice cream, which is just delicious. Right now,
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I think we're doing a strawberry and vanilla. You can have vanilla,
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you can have strawberry, where you can have the twist. I believe it's
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the successes because we are wanting to make things available that people love and want
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plus need, but they don't know they need it until they really alter their
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lifestyle. Eating clean, healthy food is very very important. The more we
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put preservatives in our body, the more we are asking for pain and discomfort
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because there's no provision within our chemical makeup to deal with some of these additives.
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And our wraps, our salads. If you want salmon, our staff
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makes a fresh salmon salad and you've had it a couple yod, it's excellent.
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Our soups, everything Dave is made from scratch, so we don't,
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you know, get the meat from someplace else. And you know, we
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do pizzas. We started a different kind of pizza when we opened on Central
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Avenue, so we do it on a flat bread, on a piea bread,
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but we also do it on non bread. So a serving if you
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get the non bread, is two pieces. So a lady called up one
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day and she said, in a very kind of scary voice, she said,
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I opened up my pizza box and there were two of them in there.
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He said, okay for me to eat both, because you know,
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talking from a diet standpoint, she was a weight watcher at the time,
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and so I said, I gave a permission, Yes, you can have
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both of them. And of course, you know the business that brought me
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to West Virginia weight Watchers. It's gone, but we need to stay focused.
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We need to remember that eating healthy surpasses nothing else. It's where our
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health lies. And if you happen to know where the health store is that
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I can go and buy some health directly. It's really the only thing you
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can do, though, is to watch what goes in. I mean,
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that's and you and I've talked about this in the past, and we're talking
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Millie Snyder from the Shape Shop. We've talked about this in the past.
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Over the years forty fifty years, all these diets have come and gone.
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I mean, you know you you name them. There was the Adkins,
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and there was this, and there was that, and there was no no.
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We're gonna do the Long Island Diet, and we're going to do the
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Kansas Diet, and forget about South Beach Florest, South Beach diets, Scarsdale.
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You know, we're going to do all soup. You're gonna eat nothing
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but soup, eight meals a day. Well, let me know how that
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works out for you. But at the end you'll be you'll be in a
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room. Why you'll be We won't discuss you publicly. You will be in
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the porcelain chamber for quite some time. But the thing about it is is
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all these things have come and gone, and what at the end of the
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day, what has stood the test of time has been along with exercise,
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absolutely has been healthy eating and just and you know, low, lower calorie
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fresh without all of the preservatives. It's a huge and I'm as guilty as
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anybody, but it's a proven fact from a medical standpoint that the human body
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is not designed and does not easily, if at all, digest some of
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these things that are in fast foods, and your body stores it up and
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causes many, many problems. And of course I continue to teach the Mediterranean
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lifestyle and we do it Thursday morning Thursday night. But I have good news
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and that is not this coming Saturday, but the following I'm opening up a
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group on Saturday morning at the Shapeshop location. Saturday is a time when a
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lot of people who can't get in through the week due to family, work,
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whatever. So we're going to have a fix it with foods. That's
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the name of the group on Saturday morning, not this Saturday, but follow
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the following Saturday. And what time will it mean, we're going to start
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it. We're going to begin it at nine o'clock, at nine o'clock in
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the morning. And what if you go to one of these the sessions that
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you have, what exactly happens in those Well, first of all, you'll
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sign up, and then you'll get weighed, and then we'll have wonderful group
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discussion. We will learn something every week that is powerful and empowering and instructive
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so that you can think about it and make necessary changes. And then we
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will eat three meals a day plus snacks and eat better than you've ever eaten
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because Mediterranean talks about fresh, clean food, and it's all over the internet.
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There's so much about Mediterranean. It's number six. Pardon me, it's
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the sixth year of being number one voted by US News and World Report,
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which is a pretty prestigious Yes, it is. Before we ecrite it about
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that, before we let you go, I'll do want to mention this now
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that warmer weather is on the way, they tell us, and we're not
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done with winter yet. We've had some pretty big snows in March and April,
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you know, in this part of the world. But I was looking
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at had the in the forecast temperature going to be in the seventies, possibly
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a couple days next week before it probably will fall back down again. But
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nonetheless you're going to be out and about a little bit more. We're all
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going to be out in about a little bit more so on these days when
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if you're in an office building somewhere in downtown Charleston, knau City or whatever,
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and you're thinking, what am I going to have for lunch? Do
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I want to go through the drive through? I want to. It's a
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short drive over to Central Avenue and it's a great environment to go in and
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set down a need or do the grab and go thing, because you offer
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that as well. All those grab and go meals are outstanding. And also
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know Millie that you are going to be out a about even more with your
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shape shop, with your trailer at different Lives on the Lives, Live on
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the Levee, events and different festivals as we get into the spring of summer
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months as well. And I have to say that people are booking our truck
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now all the way through September of this year, and I think that's because
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our reputation precedes us. People want to eat fresh, clean food and I
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mentioned the last time that I was with you, Tiffany. I asked her
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what the menu was on the truck. She says, we're doing salmon bites
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on a bed of quenewa. I said, what I mean, who does
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that on a food truck? Anyway, long story short, she sold out
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because people were just enamored with being able to eat real, fresh, delicious
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food. And that's what you get when you come to Shape Shop. Our
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stuff is that good? Give us the address phone number. I know you're
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on social media if you have a We're on Facebook, Base, We're on
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Instagram, all the all the things. And we're at seven six Central Avenue.
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We're a block and a half west of five Corners. We are open
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six days a week. Only one night a week we're open till six and
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that's Thursday. Every other day in the in the week, we're open till
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five. Saturday we open from ten to three, and then not this Saturday,
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but a week from Saturday, we're going to add a group for fix
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It with Foods and it'll be nine am on Saturday morning and Saturday morning,
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and yours truly is going to be the leader. Ah, the boss,
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the boss, the boss, the one that invented is now you're really invented,
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but you're the one that preaches it so much. Millie Snyder from the
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to you. Does Milly have anything there vanilla themed or flavor like ice cream?
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I just wonder if she calls it Millie vanilla. That's very funny,
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now, Milli Vanilla. Write that down, Anthony, Milli Vanilla. I
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like that. I like that what is the real name for that person that
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group? It was Milli Vanilli? Yes, nine, yes, yes we
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Saturday afternoon starting at three o'clock. Hooters in Kanasa City. It's been closed
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for a couple of years. It never really survived COVID to be honest with
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you, so Hooters, the building itself is going to be torn down,
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and a couple of guys that I presume were just Hooters fans the restaurant don't
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go there Dave have taken it up on themselves to plan a candlelight vigil at
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the former Hooters location in kanas City. Their names are Leonard Browning and Drew
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Cook, and I've been speaking with them Leonard. Matter of fact, I
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talked to Leonard. I have a call with him a little bit later on.
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I am planning on talking to Leonard a little bit later on in the
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coming days, maybe other show, maybe on Friday. He's also going to
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be on the Steve Animals Show. This is a big deal. It's trending
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nationwide that there's going to be a candlelight vigil at Hooters Friday night at six
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six thirty or so. We plan to be there, meaning myself, Steve
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Animal Shockley from ninetege seven to Mountain, and apparently according to the organizer's a
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lot of other people are going to be there too. Here's a fun fact
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in that laughing Here is my buddy Greg Thomas, Steve Animal Greg of the
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Mountain ninety eight seven. Steve was there doing a live broadcast the day it
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opened, which we think was around nineteen ninety six. Steve didn't have a
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lot of brain cells laught, but we think it was about nineteen ninety six
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or so. So basically Steve's going to be bookending this thing. He'll be
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there Friday night, six thirty eight, the candlelight vigil for Hooters of Cadall
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City. That's some brand loyalty. There's a lot of I don't I don't
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know. I know I know that there is one outside Beckley near Tamarack,
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but it's not there either. It's not there either, not there anymore?
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Thought it was no, No, that's a that's a Mexican restaurant. Now
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are you sure about that? But I swear it's been been a couple of
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months since I've been down that way. But okay, well, you may
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be right about that. But Greg Thomas is here. How are you man?
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Doing very well? How are you? I am doing well? Uh?
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Tex says a cadillate vigil for Hooters. Even I think that's funny text.
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Okay, another another one about keeping us abreast of situations. That's a
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text. I don't know. I'm going to leave that out. You have
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puns again, jokes man. Well, a lively group listeners here. I
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want to ask you this question. We got several things. We'll talk to
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Greg. By the way, Greg's gonna be here for the rest of the
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show. I want to start there with Senator Mansion. Senator Mansion. On
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Friday, during his speech in Morgantown, Greg announced that he would not be
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running for the White House. Uh. I'm not going to say it.
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The announcement self took a lot of people by surprise. But I will say
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that the timing of it, because, as I mean, as early as
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Thursday, he was at an event in Cleveland and he was already throwing out
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people or somebody had brought up possible vice presidents or maybe he would be a
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vice president, and it was Mitt Romney, and I think Rob Portman's name
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was mentioned up there. Your take on Senator Mansion opting not to go third
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party, Well, look, he he was really angling to get you know,
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he was never just going to go straight up independent. He was really
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angling to get that no labels sort of endorsement, right, no labels?
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Is this you know, sort of bipartisan you know, group that tries to
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find some middle ground or whatever, and they find some moderate Republicans and moderate
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Democrats to sort of be part of this coalition. To me, and I
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read a couple of different articles about his comments, and he sounded like he
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was really let down by that group had not done as much as what he'd
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hoped they would do. Now was this a group? I think Larry Hogan,
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the governor of Palin, Yeah, resigned from the group. Put correct,
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Yeah, well he did well. He resigned because then he was doing,
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uh, he's actually running for US Senate in Maryland as a Republican.
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So I think I think it was just, you know, this group had
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raised a bunch of money and was trying to get on the ballot across the
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country, you know, because the way that works, right, like the
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Democrats and Republicans always have positions on the ballot, but all those third parties
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have to either you know, have previously performed so well in an election.
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And like in West Virginia, if you're a political party here, a non
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you know, one of the minor minor minor parties, and you get one
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percent in a governor's race, you get to be like on the ballot for
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like the next four years or Yeah. It's weird. And that's why the
23:45
Mountain Party is always on the air, you know. I know the Constitution
23:48
Party has been trying to do that and so but if you don't do that,
23:52
there's like other things you have to do a lot of times it's a
23:55
petition drive or you got to do all these different things. So this no
23:59
Labels organization had been doing that all over the country. I don't follow him,
24:03
so I don't really know what kind of progress they made, but I
24:06
could tell by some of senator mentions comments that he was not encouraged by the
24:11
press. That was kind of my takeaway too. Yeah yeah, so so
24:17
so so what do you think he does? Hopey did a commentary, you
24:18
know, Joe Manchin and and I mean Huppy. Huppy has been his you
24:23
know, de facto you know, media consultant for years, so he'd know
24:26
better than me. But uh, well, here's the thing. I think
24:29
that people kind of forget that Joe is because you know, Joe is and
24:36
I'm assuming very good health. He's good looking guystill, but people forget Joe's
24:40
up there in age seven. Yeah. I mean, we talked about the
24:42
age of Biden and Trump. Uh but a lot of that has to do
24:47
with the way you carry yourself too. And Mansion still looks like pretty much
24:49
like he did when he was thirty five or forty, and he still got
24:52
the energy and so on and so forth. What do you think Manchon does
24:55
from this point on? I just don't know. You know, I'm not
24:56
a I'm not a friend of his. You know, I don't know what
25:02
he does. I mean I assume you know, they put in you know,
25:04
hop he had written about it and said that, you know the uh
25:07
you know, his wife was in that car wreck down in Alabama, and
25:10
you know, I don't know. I mean, I look at all these
25:14
guys, right, I look at you know, Mansion, you look at
25:15
McConnell, Biden, and you just think, isn't there somewhere, isn't there
25:21
like some buddy along in the family that's like calling and being like, hey,
25:25
why don't you come home and be agree? You know what I mean,
25:26
like like why are you still doing this right? And maybe that's you
25:30
know, maybe that has happened. I just don't know, and maybe that's
25:36
happened. I don't know. I mean, look, he didn't want he
25:37
didn't run for reelection because he wasn't gonna win real now, and so that's
25:44
that's sort of I think the main reason for that. And then he kind
25:47
of looked at it. You know, he looked at the presidential thing.
25:49
Uh so look, I look, I'm obviously elected. Office is not on
25:52
the table. So I don't know. I mean, you know, look,
25:56
if if the Democrats were to hold it, I mean maybe he could.
26:00
I mean, he would obviously could get some kind of ambassadorship or something
26:03
like that if he wanted it, or you know, I'm sure he could
26:04
get a job. Well, there's been people that I can't imagine he's looking
26:07
for a job. Well, there's been people that's flowed the idea because Gordon
26:10
Gee is going to be resigning at WVU. And but here's the thing and
26:14
hot and I agree with Hopey. He talked about this on the show.
26:17
WVU fancies itself as an and it is. It's an academic institution. They're
26:22
not going to put a non academic in that role as president. They did
26:26
it one time and it didn't go so well. It didn't go sowhere now.
26:27
And I'm not saying that as a slam against Joe Mansion by any strategy
26:32
imagination, but they're like somebody from the world of academia that has spent their
26:36
entire career in that realm, and that's he's not Joe may or at least
26:40
had more of a focus on it than right. I mean, I think
26:42
I could see that. I mean, do you do you foresee a time
26:45
that Joe Mansion could because I've heard all these conspiracy theories. People have said,
26:51
well, he cut a deal with this this party of that party that
26:56
he's not going to run. He's going to be a cabinet level so an
26:59
energy secretary. Do you see that happen? I don't know. I mean,
27:02
he could certainly get it if he wanted one. I mean, it's
27:06
not like they have a you know, It's not like they have an over
27:08
abundance of talent on the Democratic Party nationally, you know what I mean.
27:12
You know, it's not like there's and let's face it, I know Joe
27:15
Manchin has its detractors, Greg, but I will say, if we're going
27:19
to have somebody in a cabinet level position as an energy secretary for West Virginia
27:25
and cold producing states, we could do a lot worse than Joe Manchaw.
27:29
He's not it totally insane like most of the national Democrats. Not totally insane,
27:34
not totally insane. I don't think he's insane at all. I'll be
27:37
honest with you, I mean in juxtaposition with them, No, yeah,
27:42
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Tex says, is it too late for Joe to run for governor? Yeah?
28:07
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's not that's not going to
28:08
happen. I don't know. I mean, with all due respect to Senator
28:12
Mansion, I had him on the show last week. I don't know that
28:17
Senator Mansion could win at this point any office in West Virginia, not a
28:25
state wide one, don't not a state wide one. I don't think so.
28:26
I think any of the Republicans that are running now, if if in
28:30
a a in a dream scenario, if Senator Mansion is running against Mac Corner,
28:37
Pat Morrissey Miller Capitol, I think he loses. I think he all
28:42
right, I want to get into this with you, Greg. I've heard
28:47
some say, including a friend of mine in the media that I was talking
28:49
to earlier this morning, that this session has been forgive me for saying this
28:53
term lackluster at best. You wanted to speak to that, and you even
29:00
went as far, sir as to go all David Letterman and send me a
29:03
top ten list, top ten reasons this was a lackluster session. We can
29:08
get into that, but overall, and we'll get into specifics and we'll go
29:11
to break. I mean, why is your opinion, what is your opinion
29:15
of this has been a lacklusterre session. Look, there's just there's It's not
29:19
that they're not doing anything right. I hear all these people are like,
29:22
oh, it's an election year. I don't I don't think this is Some
29:25
of this is because it it's an election year. But I don't think the
29:27
election year thing is why they're not doing it. I think these guys had
29:32
a huge to do list. Right, anytime a state turns Republican, you
29:37
have this to do list of conservative principles, right, school choice, tax
29:41
cuts, to reform, legal reform, cut some you know, bureaucratic stuff,
29:48
rights of work, prevailing wage. There's just sort of this list of
29:52
things you're supposed to do. And after we did the largest tax cut in
29:57
history state history last year, that was the last on like that sort of
30:02
big agenda. Right, So you kind of have this to do list and
30:06
all of your major items were done, but your whole list isn't done.
30:10
Right. You still have a whole bunch of like smaller items. You know,
30:12
it's you know, you go to the grocery store. You know you
30:15
got to go get ten things, and then there's two or three like little
30:18
things that you are still on the list, but then you forgot it and
30:21
you're just like should I go back and get them or do I just leave?
30:23
That's what this session is. This was like the two or three things
30:26
left on the thing, and you're like, we do we start a new
30:30
list and go or do we go back and get these things? These guys
30:33
decided to go back and get the things right, so they're you know,
30:36
you've got you know, you had this huge of this big, big agenda.
30:40
And I'm not trying to be critical of them overall. I'm being critical
30:45
of the session. I think they've done a great job in passing the most
30:48
conservative legislative agenda in the country over the last five to seven years. I
30:53
think this session, though a little bit of complacency, a little bit of
30:59
it is just sort of they got this other to do list that I was
31:02
talking about, of all these little things, and then you have, you
31:07
know, probably one of the biggest reasons too, Right, you got a
31:08
lame duck governor. You know, not that that's his fault, right,
31:11
it's the last year of his term limited out, and he's running for Senate.
31:17
So you've got people within the party that don't you know, they they're
31:19
like, because of politics, aren't going along with the agenda and whatever.
31:23
So he was just in a position where he couldn't really have a huge agenda.
31:29
And then you also have, right, you got the I mean,
31:33
look at how many of the other state wides are running for something else.
31:34
Right, you got auditor, attorney, general, treasure or Secretary of State,
31:38
both your judiciary chairman in the Senate and the House. Because you know
31:41
more Capitol was House Judiciary chair, he's running for governor. Charlie Trump was
31:47
Senate Judiciary chair, he's running for State Supreme Court, you know, and
31:49
those are really really key positions in the legislature, you know. So you
31:55
have those people sort of running for other stuff too, and so I think
32:00
those are some of the just logistical things that have kind of held up.
32:05
Uh, you've got a very very high turnover in the House of Elegance.
32:09
I mean, I think you're talking about anymore. I mean you're talking about
32:14
but every not every cycle, but it will be on this one. You're
32:17
probably talking about a third of the legislators in the House of Delegates being brand
32:22
new right, So you've got this huge turnover of a lot of new people,
32:27
and the new people a brand new person isn't isn't exactly the most effective
32:31
legislator told me the first first year, you're setting back trying to learn where
32:37
the restrooms are. And that's and I think a little bit of that is
32:39
what's going on here. I think, you know, you've had a ton
32:45
of party switchers, right, You've had a bunch of Democrats that have kind
32:47
of come republican, and I think that you know, they sort of they're
32:52
they're republican and and some of these people, like I like them personally,
32:57
but I think some of these people they they still have even if they're like
33:00
voting with us most of the time, sort of their core a lot of
33:04
their core beliefs are still not exactly long held conservative beliefs, right. So
33:07
I think I think that that's kind of a part of the problem too,
33:13
as we just have so many of them and we're trying to figure it out.
33:16
And also hold that thought because I want to continue this, because there's
33:20
a couple of other things on the top ten list that you send me that
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Thomas is here, Tex says. Greg says say the Dems don't have much
36:22
talent on the national level. I've never heard heard more of an instance of
36:25
a pot calling the kettle black. He's not wrong. I mean I think
36:32
that. I mean, really, look, I mean, if you look
36:36
at the Republicans on the national level right now, I mean I think there's
36:38
I think there's more on the Republican side than the Democrats side, but I
36:43
certainly think there's I mean, I mean, look at the struggle there was
36:46
to get a Speaker of the House that was like, yeah, you know,
36:50
so, I don't I think the Republicans are in a better position than
36:52
the Democrats there, but I don't. That guy's not totally wrong. Tex
36:55
says the Conservative agenda of removing child work permits their employer buddies have access to
37:00
cheap labor. This goes back to yesterday. There's discussion in the House that
37:05
fourteen year olds would be allowed to work. But that's with parental consent.
37:09
Uh, it's not they're going to put fourteen year olds in sweatshomps. That's
37:13
if there's a there's a whole lot the go along with them. Some people
37:15
are just against employment, you know, Tex says, w I just caught
37:21
what you said there. So people were just against employment. Okay, Tex
37:23
says, w VU fancies itself as an academic institution. Dave, did you
37:29
mean to say it this way? It didn't come out right. It's a
37:31
it's a university. Yes, it's a university. Of course, that's what
37:34
they're going to fancy themself. What I said was they tend to be people
37:37
that, like, you know, the larger universities. You know, you're
37:40
not going to see a guy that maybe was ahead of a fortune five hundred
37:44
company suddenly be named president of you know, Kansas University, Kansas or whatever.
37:51
I manators do it though, And you know that Governor Mitch Daniels from
37:54
Indiana went on to lead Purdue. But Ben what was that guy's Ben sass
38:00
or whatever, and and and I'll say that at my alma mater, Brad
38:04
Smith's killing it at Marshall right now. But yeah, what a what an
38:07
absolute I mean, we're sitting here talking about not having talents in the parties.
38:13
What an absolute superstar? That guy? Yes, amazing, he's the
38:16
amazing. He's the probably the most impressive guy in West Virginia right now.
38:22
Next time, Well, what that goes without saying? Tex says lackluster session,
38:28
lackluster legislature to say the least, as the state suffers under the super
38:31
duper go op majority. Let them drink raw milk. So we'll use that
38:37
as a segue to get into what you were talking about, what we were
38:40
talking about at the break here. But uh, the reason that you see
38:45
some of these uh unique bills crazy and insane I'll say some some could say
38:52
crazy and insane bills. I'm gonna make a point that I'm gonna make like
38:58
sort of a balancing point to it. But there's no leadership on the social
39:02
conservative side, right there isn't There isn't like one group that's the clearing house
39:07
for social conservative bills, right there isn't like somebody you got to go to
39:12
and be like Okay, here's the five social conservative bills we have this year.
39:16
We're gonna have one that addresses the you know, the trans issues.
39:21
We're going to have one that addresses abortion. We're gonna have one that addresses
39:23
whatever else. Right. What So, because you don't have any leadership there,
39:30
because you don't have one organization with one sort of executive director that really
39:34
runs it, that's doing a great job, you get all these legislators that
39:38
have their own ideas, right, and so if you don't have like a
39:42
clearinghouse and somebody you're supposed to call to be like, hey, you know,
39:45
what's the agenda this year? Can I get my bill on there?
39:47
What do I do? They just all do it, right, So they
39:51
all do it and like and for some reason, they all think there's like
39:54
value and like having like, well, my bill that I sponsored got passed
40:00
the House Judiciary Committee. And so what happens is instead of having like five
40:06
of those that are bills that have been professionally runt like written by a real
40:12
you know lawyer that's a constitutional lawyer that understands these stuff, there's no there's
40:20
no like, well, hey, here's how other states do it, you
40:22
know, nobody's done any research on it, uh, and you end up
40:25
with instead of having five of those bills, you end up with like five
40:30
hundred of those bills, right. And that's the problem is if you have
40:34
five hundred of them, twenty of them are going to get through. Right
40:37
in this year, probably forty of them have gotten through. And so I
40:42
that's I think that's a huge problem. I mean, when I go,
40:44
you know, and I'm a lobbyist for a tort reform stuff, I'm,
40:46
you know, a lobbyist for the American Tort Reform Association, and we pass
40:50
TOWRT reform bills, legal reform stuff. But when I go to pass a
40:52
bill, it's been written by a real lawyer who's like gone and done this,
40:57
and you know. And then and then I do we what's called a
41:00
fifty state survey. So I literally have a sheet of paper that has here's
41:04
how all other fifty states handle this particular issue. And then we do like
41:07
a you know, page page and a half white paper that's like here's the
41:12
reason we're supposed to we need to do this here. Right, So you've
41:14
got you know, I got a little folder and I go talk to a
41:16
legislator, and it's like, hey, here's a professionally written bill. Here's
41:21
this stuff. If you want to talk to somebody about it in more detail,
41:24
I can get you on the phone with an expert. You know,
41:28
we put a lot of time and energy into doing these big time things.
41:30
That's what needs to be done on four or five bills, right, but
41:36
we don't do it. They don't do it on any of those bills.
41:37
They they're you know, they're writing some thoughts down on the back of an
41:40
Applebee's cocktail napkin and taking it down to bill drafting and it's popping up and
41:45
they're voting on it two days later. And honestly, it's unprofessional, it's
41:51
disorganized. Uh, and it's it's a problem. It's a legitimate problem.
41:55
And then what happens is rather than addressing the four or five things that really
42:00
and look, and I'm a social conservative, man, I mean I'm you
42:02
know, I I've most of these concepts I'm supportive of. But then you
42:08
look at these bills. I don't know, I mean, I'm not there,
42:13
so I don't know how i'd vote on them. But a lot of
42:15
them, man, I'd have to say, you got to go back to
42:16
the drawing You know, I'm for this, right, I'm for this stuff.
42:20
You got to go back to the drawing board. I mean, this
42:22
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42:27
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Dems are beating the Republicans bad in federal elections. The majority of this country
42:52
is liberal and it's not even close. I just I don't know. I
42:57
don't know what that person's like looking at I mean, well, I think
43:00
they're looking at at results of elections number one that Donald Trump got involved with.
43:07
Well, but to say that the majority of country is liberal, I
43:09
think the majority of the country is more moderate and is somewhere in the middle,
43:13
and they're quite frankly pissed off that the extremes have taken over. Yes,
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podcast menu. Start your journey towards better health Today. Greg Thomas is here.
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Tex says, the way the session is going on social conservatism, the
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people of West Virginia better enjoy their cold beer while we can. Next year
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we may have to buy warm beer and get it cold ourselves. Tex says.
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Dave. Ask Greg who he supports for governor and other offices. I
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don't support I support anybody but Patrick Morrissey for governor. And I don't you
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know, man, That's the thing. I mean, I'm just I'm buddies
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with so many of these different folks that I like. I just don't.
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I just because I you know, I do this for a living, right,
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So I mean for the callers to say, hey, you know what,
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like, I literally do this for a living. So I run campaigns,
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you know, I run a bunch of state Senate races, you know,
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involved in circuit court races and stuff this year and some other stuff.
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So I just you know, typically I don't know a lot of times I
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get involved, but some of these primaries, I don't know. There's really
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no difference. I mean, there's differences, and I've got you know,
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there's people that I probably like a little bit better than others. But in
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most cases I just I like them both, or like all three of them
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or whatever. So but I don't like more c so that you know,
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kind of anybody think you stated that? But Dave Islands showing five any line
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may say the session is lackluster. In reality, that's a win for the
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people to West Virginia. Less legislative action means less opportunity for government to screw
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up people's lives. I've I've heard that more than one and I certainly appreciate
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that sentiment for certain Are you wanted to say something about the business Well,
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you know, look I went on sort of my comments about the disorganization of
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the social conservative kind of cause the other thing too. You know, another
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reason I think the session has been lackluster is, you know, the business
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community had so many wins, right, I mean, they had a lot
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of wins, a lot of stuff going the right way. I had a
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lot of significant policy changes. Those policy changes are why this economy is going
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so much better and why we have these budget surpluses. So it's like they,
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you know, look, the social conservatives and the business groups and the
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job kind of creators had a lot of success early on with this Republican majority,
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and I think they've got a little bit of complacent, and I think
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I think a couple of things on the on the business side, they sort
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of because they got so many big policy changes made. Now they're like,
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you know, you see the business communities agendas and it's like all these like
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favors right, it's you know what I mean, it's like they're just not
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big. It's not it's not like what they call that, like small ball
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and like but you know, it's all this like small ball type stuff.
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Right, It's just it's not that it doesn't matter, it's just not really
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significant. And so I think that's something that it's got to be done too.
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And I think the other side or the other aspect of this, the
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business groups used to go in and like want big changes made that would lower
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the cost of doing business in West Virginia. That would then turn around and
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help businesses, right the investors. The businesses could reinvest, they could hire
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new people, they could increase wages, you know, whatever it is that
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they needed to do. We've gotten away from that, and now because we
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have these like huge pots of economic development money, everybody just wants a handout.
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You know. The government's gotten involved in kind of picking winners and losers
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in business, and now everybody instead of being like, hey, we need
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to go past legal reform or we need to go tackle some more regulatory stuff,
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everybody's just trying to figure out how to angle for a hand out.
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And so I think that's something that we've got to get away from too,
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and something that we you know, you hear about all, you know,
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we're sitting here talking about these Republican primaries. To me, that's one of
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the biggest issues I think that the Republican Party in West Virginia is gonna do.
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I mean, you have to do some of that economic development. I
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mean, if you didn't do that, you wouldn't have a new core,
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a new course. Obviously, like the one of the biggest thing that's going
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to happen to the state, you know, from a job's perspective. So
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you have to do that sometimes. But how much of that do you do
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right? And so that to me, that's I hope that's a debate we
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have during this primary season, and I hope that's something that we see kind
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of moving forward with upcoming legislators. But Dave on the show and five VideA
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in to campaign? I'm assuming they're talking about Trump. Oh my god,
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he was the president. Y'all need to chill out in Texas here. Dave
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totally getting the forgetting things at Kroger reference except when I forgot something at Kroger.
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I don't attempt to create laws that keep West Virginia in the dark agents.
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It's I don't look, I don't agree with a lot of this stuff,
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but to say that we're keeping them in the dark ages, you guys
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forget to mean that the Democrats had control of this state for eighty four years.
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You know, I've rattled off a bunch of things of sort of on
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the Republicans of why I think the session is sort of bordering on lackluster and
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disappointing. But let's not overlook the fact that the Democrats are the reason that
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we were in this hole that we've are now having to work triple over time
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to get ourselves out of. Greg Thomas, I appreciate you being here.
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Hoppy is back at the Capitol this morning, coming up at ten oh six
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Republican Canada for governor. More capital will be stopping by Delegate Sean flu Hardy,
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Senator Mike Wolfel, and more of that tragic accident at Liberty High yesterday
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that claimed the life of a teacher and a coach. There. All right,
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gotta go, Anthony Harmon, I are producer. Thank you so much.
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Thank you, Greg Thomas, Millie Snyder. I will see you tomorrow.
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