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#537- NAV · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: CAV Podcasts Bootleg CAV Show special guest. His new album
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  Speaker 2: is officially out and it's crazy too. I just was
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  Speaker 2: in the road trip from Phoenix to La bumping the
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  Speaker 2: new album. We got the homie Nab in the building,
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  Speaker 2: So welcome man. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: just talking about wrestling. H You were there when John
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  Speaker 2: Cena did the heel turn in Toronto?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What was that like? In person?
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  Speaker 1: It was fire because I could see the angle when
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  Speaker 1: he was hugging Cody Rose and his face changed. I
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  Speaker 1: could see that from where I was sitting. Yeah, his
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  Speaker 1: face was like like if I was facing the other way.
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  Speaker 2: I was like the rock had a spell on him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to see like how it looked on TV. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was a crazy experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, I had to it was Are you like a
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  Speaker 2: wrestling fan or were you? Just say it was in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: Growing up way more than now with the you guys.
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  Speaker 1: But my friends who I played video games with, like
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  Speaker 1: the WW. They got me back into.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great game. It wasn't tap like a theme
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  Speaker 2: song for a pay per view. Yeah yeah, I remember
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  Speaker 2: tap back yo, y'all. X O boys just got the
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  Speaker 2: WW sewed up cash Man. Cash got the biggest fan.
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  Speaker 2: He is the biggest fan. I think the Weekend has
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  Speaker 2: had like the theme song for many like six years
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  Speaker 2: straight or something. Crazy. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, No shout
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  Speaker 2: outs to cash Man. He's and and he looks good too.
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  Speaker 2: He's like he gotta be on keto or something. What's
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  Speaker 2: going on with cash But he looked good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying on the same program.
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  Speaker 2: Last time I saw him, I was like, you're not
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  Speaker 2: on a Osempic. He's like, nah, bro, this is all
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  Speaker 2: like I'm working out and I'm eating right. It's true. Nah,
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  Speaker 2: It's it's fire. How you feel, man, you got the
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  Speaker 2: new body of workout. How's it feel feel relieved? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I gave my Day One fans
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  Speaker 1: everything they're asking for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I still think like my favorite project to
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  Speaker 2: yours was your self titled Shit of Course, which is
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  Speaker 2: so fire. It was also like you're most like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like drugged out album.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that shit was sick for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But but but like, how long you've been working on
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  Speaker 2: this on this project, It's obviously been some time, like
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  Speaker 2: three years. Yeah, I feel like I feel like when
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  Speaker 2: you take your time like that, it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Even longer though, because some of the songs were older
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  Speaker 1: songs where I just took the lyrics off the beat
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, put it on a new beat, and
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  Speaker 1: they could have been four or five years old.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because when you work on something
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  Speaker 2: that long, I'm assuming like you could get demn itis
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  Speaker 2: on Ship too every day where you're like, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: love this song two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: But demo demo itis, mixed itis every time of its
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  Speaker 1: reverb itis, compression itis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything, Why my ad lits sound different on
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  Speaker 2: this one than they sounded everything? Yeah, how do you
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  Speaker 2: get over that?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: How do you fight through it? Like you just there
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  Speaker 2: is a collection of minds in the room. They're like
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  Speaker 2: now like the OG version of this really is the ship.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's certain tricks for certain things like Temple. I
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  Speaker 1: have a trick for Temple, okay, which is if you
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  Speaker 1: want to speed up a song, Oh man, I just
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  Speaker 1: give a game. But I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: know this probably, but if you want to speed up
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  Speaker 1: a song and want to feel normal with that new Temple,
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  Speaker 1: you speed it up really fast and then like speed
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  Speaker 1: it down really slow, like slower than the original Temple
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  Speaker 1: and get play that for a bit and then speed
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  Speaker 1: it back to that new temple that you want. Kind of,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta trick your brain. It's like if you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to slow down a song, slow down really slow, and
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  Speaker 1: then bring it back up to where you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: put it like it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's a thing something like that. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and then you're you're you're you're speeding up like the
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  Speaker 2: vocals and everything. I like to find spots for the
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  Speaker 2: temples of the songs. Yeah, it's interesting too because nowadays,
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  Speaker 2: like you didn't do obviously a lot of artists will
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  Speaker 2: do like where they'll put a single out and they'll
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  Speaker 2: be like a fucking used to be back in the
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  Speaker 2: day when we was growing up, you get a chopped
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  Speaker 2: in screwed version. Nowadays you get a sped up version
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  Speaker 2: for TikTok She's Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Some songs just sound cool like
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  Speaker 1: they do. They get the whole craze.
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  Speaker 2: But I just remember, like you know, fools would be
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  Speaker 2: high as fuck listening to chopped and screwed versions of
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  Speaker 2: like fifty Said and Mike Jones.
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  Speaker 1: And shit and some times, man, everything's faster.
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  Speaker 2: Was that shit? Every big in Toronto, like the Ahe
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  Speaker 2: Town shit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you're like a super fan of hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but not on a like whole scale.
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  Speaker 2: Right what uh? You know you obviously kind of got
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  Speaker 2: into the game being a producer. You're a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a producer. How much of the production on this album
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  Speaker 2: did you handle? I know metro Booman has his hands
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  Speaker 2: in on some, but like what was kind of like
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  Speaker 2: your production side on this Like.
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  Speaker 1: Like on like a record like the metro boom in one,
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  Speaker 1: I might not do anything. I just like just maybe
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  Speaker 1: someone ranging, But every other one I'm pretty much got
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  Speaker 1: my hands dirty, like and like songs like need You
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  Speaker 1: that was like a beat made from scratch by me
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  Speaker 1: and the drums, like my engineer came through the drums,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But all the music, like
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  Speaker 1: the playing music stuff, majority of us me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine. Like when you're a producer,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably hard to give because you get gave the
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  Speaker 2: reins up. You metro got crazy album together? Yeah classic.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody say that's your bit bet sound, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like even that, like some people's favorite song on that
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  Speaker 1: was like like oh call me help me down, Like
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  Speaker 1: help me down? Was me being in the studio and
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  Speaker 1: playing those chords and metro liking and the drums.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a collaboration.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, what can you speak back to because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like the record that kind of changed your life and
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  Speaker 2: kind of like got people hip to where you were
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  Speaker 2: or who you were as an artist was Beabs in
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  Speaker 2: the Trap. How big of a moment was that for you?
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  Speaker 2: Because I remember the video like it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: like an album cut, but they did a video and
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  Speaker 2: ship for it, and like it kind of like put
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  Speaker 2: you on the map in terms of people like like
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  Speaker 2: like could you have such a distinct voice? And people
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  Speaker 2: are like, who the fuck is this?
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  Speaker 1: People really thought it was justin bieber m Beabs in
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  Speaker 1: the Trap. Then Travis didn't list his features on the tracks,
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  Speaker 1: and some people don't know who I was at all,
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  Speaker 1: right when the album came out, I probably had like
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  Speaker 1: maybe ten twenty thousand followers, maybe less, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like it was like recognition that came
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  Speaker 1: slowly later, Like I wanted it as soon as they
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  Speaker 1: dropping like hello, like nobody's saying me up making this
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  Speaker 1: v to being on there, but it took a little
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  Speaker 1: bit longer. But it was still the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like was my top two or three record
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  Speaker 2: on that album too? Right, Yeah, for sure. And then
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  Speaker 2: you got I mean, are shooting the video helped too?
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  Speaker 1: That helped you, yeah, because they're like, hey, it's me.
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  Speaker 1: But even then they're like, who's that?
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  Speaker 2: Are you aware? Like for a wave there, like like
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen eighteen, anybody who had your haircut had the
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  Speaker 2: NAV cut. Like it became a.
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  Speaker 1: Thing absolutely, Like I started seeing it a lot in
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  Speaker 1: like places like Vancouver, in Canada.
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  Speaker 2: In Arizona, there were Mexicans who would have your haircut
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  Speaker 2: and they would ask for the NAV.
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  Speaker 1: No, but okay, that's cool. But there's another one that's
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  Speaker 1: like more hair. The Edgars.
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  Speaker 2: The Edgar it's you have definitely a version of the
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  Speaker 2: more hair you haven't cleaned up adds way exactly, it's
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  Speaker 2: way more. You gotta you have a Canadian Edgar like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's way more hair. These guys got helmets on their head.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Edgars are crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to a knots Done
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  Speaker 2: down here. Oh man, don't go to Knotsberry Farm during
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  Speaker 2: the summertime. The Edgars are running wild out there. Bro
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  Speaker 2: and the Wild dude they're wild. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You see some edgars in the wild, you'd be like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: they don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah, they had
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  Speaker 1: to cash out for sure because they got the helmet on.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man yo for you man, Like, Uh,
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: it's been uh, it's been a pretty crazy year, uh
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  Speaker 2: for the team obviously. Uh, the new weekend albums out?
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  Speaker 2: Your album is out. What's the camaraderie like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you were at the Cardi show, cardies on your ship.
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  Speaker 2: What's the camaraderie like with the XO team as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: Because I feel like you guys have always kind of
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  Speaker 2: moved together, you know, even if even if you weren't
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  Speaker 2: in cycle, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ship it's just about like, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: being team players, you know, knowing their roles and it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's like a family, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like the biggest dude will pick up garbage off the floor,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like everybody's humble
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  Speaker 1: and ground and from a similar background. So that's easy.
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  Speaker 1: Now what Cardi is, We've been cool with him from
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  Speaker 1: like way back. You know, It's like one of his
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  Speaker 1: first shows in.
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  Speaker 2: L A one time I got canceled or some shit
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  Speaker 2: you ate the show got canceled or you guys got canceled.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, yeah now Cardi's a I mean you
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  Speaker 2: saw the show.
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  Speaker 1: It was wild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so much fire.
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  Speaker 1: But the one that we're talking about was like some
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  Speaker 1: like basement blaze I forgot from underground shiit like that's
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  Speaker 1: how long we know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. The Cardia live experience was interesting. I was
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  Speaker 2: standing right there and we're just like, there's that dude
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  Speaker 2: with the long hair, the white dude, wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: They damn the crowd? Yeah, Birdberry, whatever is.
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  Speaker 2: That dude on stage? We were like, yo, is he good?
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  Speaker 2: It looked like he was having like a like an
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  Speaker 2: out of body experience, like his spirit was being torn
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: into the sky like live on stage. And then there's
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  Speaker 2: the bald white dude like running. It was just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was wild.
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  Speaker 1: You see when he jumped in the crowd though, and
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  Speaker 1: he missed it. Miss man. These kids all they do
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: is they're holding their phones up. They're not ready for
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be like.
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  Speaker 2: He also hit the front of the gate. To be fair,
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  Speaker 2: I think he misjudged the.
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  Speaker 1: Gee, he made it over. I think he just hit
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  Speaker 1: the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's the other thing. I mean, back in
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  Speaker 2: the day he used to be able to CrowdSurf. Confidently,
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  Speaker 2: not anymore smartphones.
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  Speaker 1: You get dropped.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine where you You weren't crowdsurfing back in
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  Speaker 2: the night. Nah, it was crowdsurfing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, crowdsurfing, mosh pitting.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really go to shows like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your first concert? M hm? I feel
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: like nas nos. Yeah, that's a good first show. Did
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: he forget a lot of his lyrics? No, he's got
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  Speaker 2: this thing where he like forgets like half a one
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  Speaker 2: mic every time he performs it.
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  Speaker 1: No way, shit happens. It happens to me too. Now.
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  Speaker 2: He is my favoriterapper of all time. We got my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: He's the goat.
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  Speaker 2: But I've seen him like thirty times, and every time,
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  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he could just never remember the one
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  Speaker 2: mic lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It is all. It's an interesting song because there's so
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  Speaker 2: much like you know, but yeah, shots and NOAs he's
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: what's your favorite album?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's tough, Like I am still madic one
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  Speaker 1: of those hard choice though, but still Mad. I think
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  Speaker 1: still mad And that's like when I grew up, Like
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  Speaker 1: I I grew up and the first NAS album I
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  Speaker 1: heard was still Madic. I had to go backwards, you
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  Speaker 1: had to go kind of dig in Nostradamis and I
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Am as a double set. Yeah, and it was cheap
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  Speaker 1: and ship because it's already been off. So of course
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: got that and then I started getting him. Then I
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: went all the way back to Illadic Life's of Bitch
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  Speaker 1: and those songs.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, still Madic. I feel like it's
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: the one that can like it's either ill Madic or
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: still mad.
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  Speaker 1: And then like I Give You Power or whatever album
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  Speaker 1: that so.
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  Speaker 2: Of course that was on that was that was on
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: his second album.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Like the penmanship is unbelievable.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: Not for sure, affirmative action, incredible fire here he said push, No,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: you're good, you're good shots, And I don't think a
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: lot of people think that, Like I feel like people
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  Speaker 2: would be surprised, like yo, that you're in NAS head.
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  Speaker 1: Not for real? Like shit was like you know, telling stories,
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  Speaker 1: break down.
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  Speaker 2: The name of the album on my way to Rexdale,
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  Speaker 2: What's where is rex Stale where you're from?
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  Speaker 1: Or yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from the neighbor area. What's it like in Rexdale?
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  Speaker 1: It's whatever you wanted to be. It's like, you want
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: to be smart and go to school and then go
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: to college. You could do that. You want to be
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: in trouble in the streets, you could be doing that.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Like anything you want to be, you could be that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But some areas are a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more disadvantage where you're like you don't really
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  Speaker 1: have as much as a choice, but you still got a.
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  Speaker 2: Choice when you I feel like, were your parents like
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  Speaker 2: behind you doing music or was it something you had
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: to kind of convince them to do.
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  Speaker 1: My mom just wanted me to do anything. She's like
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  Speaker 1: anything but just some bullshoes something. Yeah, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: took me an extra year to get out of high school.
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  Speaker 1: I was like a failure in high school, you know,
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  Speaker 1: really embarrassing thing. So you were held back. Yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I have to finish up. And when I finished up,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: it was like what do I want to do? And
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: there was a studio school and I told my parents, like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to studios. We learn it It's
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  Speaker 1: far away, like on a bus an hour and a
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  Speaker 1: half away every day and it cost it quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: So I just so my parents like put me down
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  Speaker 1: for it and I'll figure it out later, the money thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: So like when you would go there, you learn like
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: pro tools and shit and.
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  Speaker 1: Pro tools, class SSL, yeah all that shit. Yeah damn.
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  Speaker 2: So you were able to like you could track, you
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  Speaker 2: could engineer, you can do everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why I did. I just I did
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  Speaker 1: definite a while. I made beats and I tracked people
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  Speaker 1: until I became myself.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five. How are you making beats? Is
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  Speaker 2: it still fil studio? Is it able toon?
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  Speaker 1: Is it logic for melodies because the quantizer it just
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: works right away, you know what I mean? And fl
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  Speaker 1: for drums. And now my friends are convincing me to
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: move on to Ableton.
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  Speaker 2: People love Ableton, Like if you find somebody who loves Ableton,
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  Speaker 2: they will sell Like it's like it's like finding a
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  Speaker 2: Mormon or something. They swear by it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm about to have three programs under my belts
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  Speaker 1: and I know he use pro tools as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Ableton's vibe. Talk to me about for you?
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  Speaker 2: How much are you focused on? Like, like do you
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: even care to produce outside of your own shit, Like
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: are you sending beat packs out? Is that something that
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: you're still.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Like uptil now? I haven't really been a beat pack
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: center kind of person, like if I collabed on the
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: beat ended up getting placed, for example, like I clabbed
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: on the beat and it went from back to back.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: I collabed on the beat and then went on like
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Koda Black album with Ben billions, but he had to beat.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: You know he's doing that from just me from my
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: email or from my phone. I'm going to start now
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: because I just recently set up a studio in my
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: living room. So I had a full blown studio in
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: one of my rooms in my house. But I don't
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: like being trot through in the room, so I like
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: being in the living room. So I've moved everything to
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: the living room. So your living room is the studio. Now.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: I got two set ups, a real studio and then
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: like a cool studio like Yamaha's with a suboofer and
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: a Midi keyboard and my laptop, and I've been making
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: beats down. I've been making beats more often, so I
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: might start sending the ones that I don't want to
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: use out.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Well, then you gets your album out, so now it's like, Okay,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I got all this shit. You probably probably sitting on
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: hell of shit, like how many You probably got a
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff that didn't make the album too, A
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: lot of songs, a lot of beats. Deluxe coming.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I want to put the deluxe out, the one that
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: we sold on my site.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? I'm always always wondering when when you
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: cause I think this happened. Every time there's like a
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: big song like back to Back, you didn't really know
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: that that was gonna end up being what it was
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: going to be.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like that happens all the time. Like I
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: think with the ether Beat, the same shit happened with
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: with Ron Browse. Really was was there? Like was there
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: any what was the gift in the curse of that situation?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Could you end up with with with with meet mil.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: On tap you know years later? Yeah? To be honest,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: it was a tricky situation because at first I wasn't
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: really getting credited like that because of the whoever I
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: made the beaule who didn't want to I don't know,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: And then as later on I ended up clearing that
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: up and getting the credit publicly, but I was I
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: was already popping as an artist before everybody knew that
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I produced back to back. And the way I got
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: popping as an artist was, you know, meet Mile really
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: discovered my music and was like showing a person and
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: people like, you know, gosh and this and that, and
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: he was really like going through that whole thing. At
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the same time, they didn't not knowing that I produced it,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was going for that song.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: It's not like I knew it was one for that
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and it was just kind of awkward. Like I remember
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: like going around the first time and being like, damn,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he knows, like you know what I mean,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: if cousin knows, because I really fucked with him. So yeah,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: that was a stretching interesting you guys, I mean doing fucking.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I mean taps one of my favorite songs right.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: One of my biggest records, which is like it's dope, YO.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about your because I feel like you've
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: kind of been adopted by l A a bit here.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing you when Nip did his
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: grand opening the Marathon store in like two thousand and seven.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: You were out there, what was your relationship, like with it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: When he was here, Man, damn slow in Bucks. You
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: know that's one of their closest friends, dropped the Queens.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. You know. He spent a lot of time
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: in Queen's. So when I went over there, I went
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: with Sloan Bucks and that day they even want to
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: take me. I was like, yo, yeah, I just leave
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: me in the house all the time. I'm a young
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: artist at the time. They didn't want to take me everyone.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going there, but I want to go
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: when I go. When I when I first go there,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: niffs Nips coming out of the car and he told me, Yo,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I fucked with re up with Belly. He's like, I
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: fucked with that verse. I'm like whatever, real, I'm like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: damn tried to Belly one of the greatest of all time.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Know who I am is crazy. So Nip's like, yo,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: come on, like come in the store. I went crazy,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: bought all the stuff from my boys and all that shit,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: got everything from people back home. So after that, he's like, yo,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: come on, let's go smoke in the front kick doing it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: More than he's like, yo, let's get in the ATV.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Their bikes together. I'm like okay, and he's like, I'm
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like when you learn how to drive, He's like, oh,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: just last week, I'm like, nah, I'm not hopping out.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I started going yoh yeah, wait up away for Bucks
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Bucks over there, Like no, I'm not getting off a yo.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Nip always showed me love seeing him like multiple times
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: after that, always love. He is knowledge and recipes of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that man bro.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Great guy. Man, you're a shroom guy. Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I was hard on it before, but I've just slowed
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: down on it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Now. What is your Have you ever had like a
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: hero's dose level of Like.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has. I feel like your tolerance goes up
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the more you take it. So I did a rolling
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: loud back in Toronto when my album just dropped, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I took over five grams in the studio.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my sister start.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: She has a fiance now, the one that lives in Toronto,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and she brought him to the studio because we're gonna
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: go together. And one of my sisters the show. This
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: guy couldn't believe what you were seeing. He was because
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: he never been around that kind of shit. So he
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy just took all those shrooms
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: he just made three beats and now he's about to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: go perform at Rolling Loud And when I was so
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: fried when I went on roll Out, but it was
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like I was so used to it that like my
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: lyrics that I usually forget were like only a teleprompter
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in my mind. And like when I when I went
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: on stage, I literally grabbed my sister. I was like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: looked at her eyes. I was like, watch this. And
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: then I went on stage and I was like performing
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and celebrating at the same time because my album's outso
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just like it had to be the best shit ever.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It was the best performance I ever. Like, I don't
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: know if the crowd felt the same way, but I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: felt like I was half for the best performance of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: my whole life.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Yo. It's like shrews. Like if you take a ship
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: ton and you know, like you said, if you know
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, you can like use him as a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: super powerful That's.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: The point I was taking them since they weren't working. Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I had to take so much. I took a hero
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: whole hero bar.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Belly gave me a book about uh, I forget
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: what it was called. It's at my house. I read
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it it's about it's about it kind of like the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: whole whole books about this doctor wrote this book about
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: psilocybin therapy and shit. And I remember it goes one
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: time I was at Belly's house and you've probably seen
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: this thing. This motherfucker has this uh this thing with
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: sand on it and when you play the music that
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: it makes fat yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: And I was tripping the fuck out because I was like, this.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Is crazy, Like this is like music is real, Like
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: it's tangible, like you could see the frequencies like with
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the sand.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: In some way or another. They say this, even this
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: desk is made up of.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Frequency, for sure. Have you had a bad trip though?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: My first trip ever was about trip. My first trip ever,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I was like eighteen years old and we did it
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: with a couple of my little Indian homies. We did
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it in Toronto and we we just had I had
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a horrible trip. And one thing I noticed was back
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: then I was running around with the wrong crowd, doing
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the wrong things, feeling school Da da da da, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: my homie, who was like the weirdo and people made
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: fun of him kind of type shit, he was having
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a great trip and that kind of like taught me something.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy just is himself all the time.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: So that's why I feel like you and I'm trying
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to be something. I'm not hanging out with the wrong
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: people doing the wrong things. And it really like when
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I came out of that ship, I graduated high school,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: switched up who I'm hanging out with. Everything went. So
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it was a good trip technically it turned out to be,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but the trip during it horrible, terrible. Every time I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: closed my eyes, fib breathing and dragon coming at me.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: When I opened something bads happening everything. I couldn't get
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: away from the ship. Have you done d MT? No, No,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that's what I want to do that ship. But I'm
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: hell scared, bro, think I'm ready. I feel like, once
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you're spiritually balance, while you're sober, right, you can handle
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: all that shit.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah you're you're you're pretty sober now, right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I smoked weed every day. But like in terms
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, the ship you were rapping about,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I'll tap into stuff, you know what I mean, Like
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: if it's like I'm in the studio.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: For your all time best druggie rapper. By the way,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: In terms of the subject subject matter, appreciated.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Those the drugs kids are I'll tap into some ship
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm in the studio for two weeks, there
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: might be a day where we are dabbling something just
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to get a different kind of vibe. Not every day, right,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that's just going to kill you.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like, you know, especially, I feel
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: like when you get first got in the game, Fetanah
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: wouldn't really like dang for real, you know, fast forward.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Now it's like you it's like you gotta get the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: drug testing kids and ship out.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you gotta trust the source and it
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is good work, it's it no't matter that shit isn't
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: gonna work you eventually, for sure, eventually.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Even the weed now is fucking because they're spraying the well, no,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: they're spraying weed with the turfs. It's it's like, what
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: are you even smoking in New York?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And New York is heavy right now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: In New York is bad.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Young dudes, the young dudes, they want that over the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: regular weed. Yeah, because like you're like, give me the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: shit with the turfs.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: They're getting some bullshit packs from LA and then they
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you know, they'll spruce them up.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So from week lemon cherry yeah, the Turfs on.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man, you're a big hockey fan growing
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: up more so ya is that just like because you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: from Canada, Because I don't get it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Grew up playing and ship like Maple Leafs. Maple Leaves,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: they're the best they've ever been. But damn, bro, they
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: haven't got a Stanley Cupping sixty years or some shit.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just waiting on that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, are you would you see a bigger
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Raptors fan or Maple Leaves.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Fan Raptors fan, But I'm not gonna lie. Bandwagon the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Raptors this last championship. I was growing up and Vince
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Carter and Tracy McGrady. Of course that was my favorite team.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dunk Contest days were crazy. So before the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: before you bandwagon the Raptors after they won with the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Kawhi thing where you like a fan of another random team. Curry, Oh, Steph,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you're just a bandwagon.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just Curry Curry. We've been seeing
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Curry how good he is back in the day when
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: he had Monte Ellis on the team. So if you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: want to Andrew David Lee, he's playing a game and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Monte Ellis was a star. But when you passed the Curry,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he's hitting the threes. Likes just Curry, guys, Curry got
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: fire and we've watched him grow into who he is.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I like Curry Curry for sure?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Have you uh if? I feel like obviously their hip
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: hop scene in India has been blowing up. Uh you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: know it's like his own thing. Like how tapped in?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Are you? Like?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Obviously you're huge here, but are you tapped in it all?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: To like what was going on over there?
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I know everything that's going on. I'm aware of everything
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that is going on, but topped in as far as
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like how many people have had many music with? Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: only really EP Dyllans so far, and I plan on
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: working with everybody if I can.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the homies name? With the Big Dogs record?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I had him on Kine Uh wait a minute, get
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Oh? That's going I bumped into him actually in Thailand?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Well now, Thailand. Yeah, I was there, Yeah, yeah, we
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: didn't really I didn't see you there, but I was there. Yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I was there for twelve days. How was your Thailand experience?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Its good? Was it nice? Nice? Good food? Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So good food, good food, good food. Did you just
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: stay in that area? Did you go to Bangkok Pataya
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and then Bangkok Pattaya's got that street man.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: The hotel is unbelievable to all that street we don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that streets gets fishy, real fishy, man.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the street joints super fishy.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, you can see them, they got you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: can see them. Anybody who says they get tricked, they
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: didn't get tricked. Hell known, impossible, impossible.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's a it's a great place, great food.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: There's elephants too. You know, I ain't see the elephants
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and tigers. I'm glad I ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And they got a bootleg mall there. That's fucking crazy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: None. I went to a real mall. They felt like America,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: five story fake mall. I would love to go there
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: just to see its fire.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: All my kids got Travis Scott's that they don't know
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: are fake. My kids are running around with fake shooting.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I said, wait, how much of these?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I looked at him.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I said, oh no, we're doing this.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I had to buy a whole new suitcase just to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: bring fake gifts back. Yeah, for sure.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's good times.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Shout out to a shout out to uh, you know
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Thailand and and and and and the hustlers out there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Is there a tour coming absolutely as soon as we can.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Are you Are you already trying to figure out like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the date, like the dates.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I've been on, you know, my team about it having
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like only starting this to announce and they're working on
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it right now, so we'll get it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Uh. Did you go to Coachella last weekend?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: No?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you were the kind of guy
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to be at every fest. I feel like at Coachella
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you'd see nap backstage. Really, I don't know, it just
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: feels like your kind of thing. You're going this weekend?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: N I don't know why.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel like when this year. Maybe because
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it's fucking in the middle of the desert and I
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: have been so many times. It's like how many times
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: do you need to fucking go to understand what the happening?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and last year I was performing, so it was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: more lit.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: You know, talk about your uh, your just chemistry with
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: a guy like metro Booman, who you know is one
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of the greatest producers. If not at this point fuck.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's got the best producer album ever, Heroes
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and Villains a classic. But uh, what y'all's like chemistry?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Like in the studio, how'd you guys kind of hone in.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And Cash put us together at first like a lot
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of people, but just genuine relationships my brother and my friend,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: my dog, you know, and and and then on top
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of we we both make beats, both make music, so
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's just easy. I don't know, like I haven't worked
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: on them in a long time since Perfect. And then
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the day that we finally sat down and locked in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for this album, it was just flowing, like just like
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: back in the day no Time Lost. We did like
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: four three four songs in the night.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because like I feel like you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: got to kind of have a different approach when you
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: worked on Perfect timing where you're doing like a full
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: collaborative album with somebody. Did y'all know that told you
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but you guys were going to do it? Did it
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: just happened where it was like, damn, we got like
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a bunch of joints. Then we might as well make
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: this ship a project.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: We knew we're gonna do a project called Perfect timing,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and we knew we were working on it, and then
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: there'll be like La sessions. Then he'd traveled to go
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: do something untravelable something, and then we where we really
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: locked in was in Atlanta at I can't remember the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: studios name, but it's far out in the bluffs. That's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what we locked in through.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: A great album Part two one day. I know, God
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: bless for sure. You do a lot of video gaming too, Yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: what's your what's your go to games? Right now?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I played the Weirdest Ship, like I played Call of Duty.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Obviously I play sports games and stuff, But right now
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'm playing Schedule at one of it and playing Billatrot
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is a card game that's really popular. Schedule one. You're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: playing a drug dealing game, like you literally could sell
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: anything on PlayStation. No, it's on Steam, like you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: like on the oh yeah, the app. Yeah, it's the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: biggest game on it right now. I think like most
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: highest rat is it like some grand theft auto ship bro. No,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it's like shitty graphics but good concept.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: So you're like a drug dealer.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you make you can sell we you can sell dope.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: You just gotta you gotta have your workers to work
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and have plants and set up lights and all that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and like have a like, oh so you can set
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: up like a grow a packaging station. It's like mad intricate,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Mean, What the fuck? And you're doing streaming and all
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: that too?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Nah, no, no, I did the other day I played
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Call of Duty with Biffle on streamed.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Do you feel, like, how do you feel about the whole?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like the streaming shit's kind of cool, Like
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: for the most part, it feels like, you know, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: think guy's like a like super cool, like DDG is
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: doing this thing. Some of these guys are a little
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: corny to be honest, But how do you feel about it?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Because it feels like that's kind of the new media,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: like the streaming guy.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think things us evolve, you know, yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and it's either you get with the times or you
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: just get left in the dust. And it's like what
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they're doing is cool. I just don't know about it
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: for me and my brain, you know what I mean.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But what they're doing is cool and it does well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them have cool personalities.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, I went on DDG stream and I was
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: helling nervous because I was like whatever I say, Oh,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that's it. It's like not coming down, that's it. You
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: gotta have pr training for real for sure, and they'll
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: clip the fuck out of here. Dude. They clipped everything
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: like him and I just started having a conversation about
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: like my pizza restaurant and ship, and then like it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: turned into some other ship and then I had to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: stop and be like, oh shit, like there's like cameras
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: on the walls and.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Because like farming now they call it or off farming,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: clip farming.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Dude, the clip farming. Yeah, no, it's wild. It's almost
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: like that's the whole point of streaming is like how
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: are we gonna just fucking We got to give these
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: clippers some ship.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Now, when I was with Neon like off camera like before,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: like he's super cool, he was. We were in New
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: York and we're doing other things and I just seen
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: him were his head's as streaming like that shit is
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: stress for sure. He's like, how can we make contact
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: out of the content out of this? And then next thing,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: why are you think about your head? Is how can
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: we get a clip? How can we get something?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yo? Let's go run around the projects with Jim Jones.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Ye see what happens.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He's had a video shoot with us that ship. It
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough content, Yea, it wasn't insane bro, Like, yo, man,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: this shit's got to be a little more crazy. Does
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: anybody any guns? Right? Shout out to the streamers, Man,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody's crazy. It's like it's like not sustainable.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like long term, yeah, because it's like if
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you're Neon and you're like thirty five, at one point
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you're like, damn, I still trying to run around and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: chase like moments.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like hip hop too.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It is, Yep, it is. It's like the SoundCloud era
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: but for content makers right now, man.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And that audience is very like chew you up and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: spit you out quick.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: How do you think you were because I feel like
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you were kind of like you were coming into the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: game during the SoundCloud era and what I like to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: call the dark Ages of hip hop in terms of
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: like some of the stuff that was getting signed and shit.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: You know, we think about some artists that pop in
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: our heads when I say that, But like you were
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: able to kind of like withstand that era, that era
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: of music was was really there was some bad shit
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that was popping, and a lot of people were doing
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: shit for like Instagram likes and clout and getting signed
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: off of that shit, and you didn't really have a
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: big public profile. You weren't doing like in person interviews
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: like I like, you weren't like you didn't have that
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: ANTIQ shit going on. Like did you ever like feel
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: any pressure when you first got into the game, tore
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like I guess playing the circus with these other fucks. Hmm.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I thought maybe it might help me, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: move the needle right and for this shit like that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But no, I'm never going to compromise who I am
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and do some sucker shit. I just I'd rather I'd
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: rather be fucking number fucking twenty in the world, number
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: forty in the world, number top one hundred in the world,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: right and remain like myself and true to myself and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: my morals, like you know what I mean, because that's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: still great. Like people expect everybody just to be number one,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Like I'm cool being top one hundred, top of thousand
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: cares like money, right, Like you're doing shows, people showing
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: up to the shows, buying tickets. We having stuff. I'm happy.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's important too. Is like I always tell
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: artists that, man, don't pocket watch. There's so many artists
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: will pocket watch, and not even necessarily money, but just
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: they'll look at what other artists are doing or other
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: artists recognition, and then they get all self conscious about
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, and it's like not not just do
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you right, and you your fans will appreciate that more
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: than you trying to fucking.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Do its like even like money, while I shit like that,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like me and me even like I'm a producer, so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm producing a lot of my own ship, so I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: getting the different kind of slice of the pot, you
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on the good songs that it is.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Are you able to like when you have like a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: budget for an album? I know some artists will have
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: like a budget for producers. Do you like, like, are
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you taking out of you are you paying yourself out
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: of your budget?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: No?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: For production?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And I pay all my producers, well everybody, because I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: have respect for producers because I'm one of them. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: know how it goes.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that happens a lot of times.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how the loops, you know what
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes you'll see somebody will have a loop
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: on a beat and then they get a little crazy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: You start talking shit online, like bro the worst.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: One is and you use a loop from one guy
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and when it comes to clearing it, you find that
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: there's four other guys that I was playing guitar and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the cow bell on it, like, piss you off.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Four guys did one loop.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: That's why I'd be talking everybody like make sure are
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you sure you did this by yourself? I'll be like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: before I even want to recorder, and now I'd be
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like making sure yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And like now, even with Splice, I feel like Spice
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: has changed it so much because like, if you're just
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: like scrolling through Splice, you could just fine, like, but
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: then the shit that's on Splice, it's like I think
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: when you do shit on Splice, right, isn't it royalty
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: free if you use it? Yeah? No it is. Yeah,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is. You ever go on Spice?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I tried it once? Yeah. Uh. Like me, I'll use
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like something like a Splice, but I use Arcade a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: little bit more because our kide is easier to like
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: run to me but I still end up finding it,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like finding myself taking the shit out or like barely
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: leaving just a little vocal sample and the rest of
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it was like the always the first chords and the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: first ship that gets laid down the foundation is gonna
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: be rob like me. And then I might add like
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: a little vocal sample from a garcade or something in there,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: like drown it out. But I don't like to make
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: anything that's like recognizable that you could find it. And
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: they're like, how did you do this?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Somebody?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: We know exactly what used this because I like that
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I pressed one button. Damn mad people's using this, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: know right away.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Have you ever gone on YouTube and just typed in
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: nav type beats just to see what's on there.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: All the time? All the time?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Ever? Any heat?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Huh? Is ever? Any heat? Out of ten? To be honest,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: maybe one or two which is.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Great, which is not bad because it was zero. Yeah zero.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Some of them like, oh this is kind of fire.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'll do all the time, yeah, all the time. Do
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you ever do anything on a type beat nap time? No?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I would, I would though if I if I vibe
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to it, for sure, I don't care. I'll find them
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in PIM.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope. That's important. What made you kind of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: because when you first got into the game, like I said,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like you were very like protective of your image and
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: not necessarily like you didn't do any like any interviews
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: you would do weren't on camera. What was the thought
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: precess behind that and what kind of had you kind
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of like change that perspective and start just kind of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: getting out there more in terms of just throwing people
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: who you were.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I mean when I first met Cash, he just was
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: looking at my Instagram on my phone. He's like, let
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: me see it on YouTube, and he's like, are you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: attached to any of this stuff on here? Because the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: posts were in the post kind of whack right, And
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like nah, And he's like cool, I'm just started
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: leading shit. You're cool, Like yeah, we give shit, do
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: whatever you want, man. You He deleted that ship and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: then literally like I had four thousand followers and like
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: literally like after that, like the following weeks, I started
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: blowing up so much and people had no idea. Then
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: they'd have my old pictures be like, oh, this is him.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's not him.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: They was black.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: They thought I was this thought was that, I'm like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: they're just working out. I don't know, shit, just worked out.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But then I got really frustrated with Ship. And then
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: one time I was in the club with Abel the weekend.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I was in the club with him and and the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: manager owner of the club in Toronto screamed on me
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: for smoking weed, Like screamed on me because yeah, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the security guard piece watched the whole thing go down,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and and this is my first time ever going out
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: with him, yeah, and he looked at it go down,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and then he kind of went and told Abe what happened.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: He's like, what he said, what happened? He's I'm like, yo,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this guy told me not to smoke. He's like what
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the fuck. He's like, I'll kick everybody out of this
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: club and will be the only one that will smoke.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, for real. He's like, you know what, Bro,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm tied to the Ship. He's like, if you do
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: need to see who you are, takes a picture of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: me and post it on his Instagram like he's a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: real one.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it was like the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: great reveal, so I need did that. I was like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: oh shit, up now, oh shit, you know what I mean?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So that was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Yeah, yo,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: what was like?
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: What was it like? Your dms had to be kind
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of crazy after that, just people being like, bro, what
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's sick crazy.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, what's that show on that Nick Cannon's assuming
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: people don't know the voice under the suit?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And then I couldn't go back around the same people
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: no more for a minute. I have to like go
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: do my thing.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are you guys any plans on uh going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: uh this GNX tour in Toronto?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm shore the mom in the city.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Go check it out. It's gonna be crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think he's anything to worry about out there?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You love GNX great? Yes, yes, sure, yeah he's
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's, in my opinion, his best
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: album right now that it's sat with me. Yeah. Are
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you a big Kendrick guy?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I have my favorites from him?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: What you're like, because I feel like Kendrick has like
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the critical ship, which is like to Pimp a Butterfly,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: which is like, to me, like an art piece that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: aged so well. Obviously good kid Mad City. But I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: feel like gn X is like the Slaps in terms
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: of like replayability.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like every music has its place, you know, right,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Like like there's club records that I want to listen
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to when you're in the club in the party mood,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but when I'm driving, I might listen to some nahs
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just you know, or just like some Kendred Like it's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: different even my music, like my last album, I don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: think it's a club album or a record type album.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: It's just some shit you drive to late night's just
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: for the vibe.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Like what's the best Shrewman music for you? I'm gonna
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: say I'm gonna start at Taming Pala and Your Boy
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Weekend.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I'd say those are definitely good choices. Honestly, I'm not
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: even being biased me, you know what I'm saying. Do
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you shreme out to your own shit? When I made
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the song need You, which is a song about extasy
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: on my album and the ouch and everything, like we
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: literally did true but I don't repeat.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I found this like there's a have you heard
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: of Mac DeMarco? No, So Mac de Marco is like
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: this like white dude, he kind of looks like Chris
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: but if you let himself go. But he's like this
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: white dude in all his music videos are like fucking
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: crazy bro like this fool's got like a dragon face
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: in one of them. But I feel like his whole
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: entire genre is like Mac de Marco. He's hardest fuck.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Great psilocybin music. Yeah, if you're fucking ever, like in
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a Coachella or Joshua Tree in a hot tub just
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: throwing some yep, that's it. Yeah, you'll love it. Due cool. Uh.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Any any new artists that you're fucking with, I feel
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: like you got your ear to the street. Youre always
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: work with new artists. Anybody you're you're rocking with right now?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: New you know obviously the Destroyed, Lonely Ken, Carson net Spend,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, My boy John Ross put
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: me on, Put me on about that kid. Yeah, Like,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: if you name somebody, I'll probably be like, yeah, right
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: now I'm drawing blanks. Anybody at LA name somebody. I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So many people in LA. They're amazing.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Ship freaking O th Guiredo Britos a legend, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the blast Beano the shortlight Mafia dudes, I actually the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: short lines back together. Yeah, bum thing. I do it
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: a long time ago.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Oh g Z or Phoenix, oh.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: G Z Vancouver, and there was like yo, this o
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: giz like he's in the club, like he's like besides
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: your section. That him, Like yeo, who cares? Then we
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: said what's up? And I was like, yo, guy's cool,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Like no, he's the best.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: They're cool.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of people like all time great hip hop
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: hair two had the same Like I told the other
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I said, were you able to cut your hairs?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I seen him in the strip Cluver. Was that sounds
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a bit deep as fun Sam's? Yeah, that's one thing.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I just seen him in the color Yo, great shot
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like Mafia.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Have you had the hot wings and Sam's the hot
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: wings the chicken wings of Sam's. No, I don't really
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like to eat in the strip clubs in LA really. Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I eat in the strip clubs like Houston, Atlanta.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The only one to eat at Sam's everything. You know
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that if you always ordering food that I noticed it
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: is good. Foo, I'm gonna try it. But you're right,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I think your first inclination. Miami's got good food too,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: if you go to Tutties and you get that fried lobster.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: You know you got crazy food. They got the best.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Boobyock got crazy boo.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite Miami strip club?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Boo Trap?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: For different reasons.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Obviously, it's just how late it's opening. The vibe. It's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: like a club. Yeah, don't it's like just perverted vibes.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Guys are sitting watching on the stage. Yeah, you'll get
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit that perverted exactly. Yes, I like the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: ones where it is like a party. We just strip
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: in the background type ship then all over the blaze. Yes,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it's a vibe.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Tutties just for the perverted.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: You want some Thailand ship, No, no, no, no no,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I just like to get the massage ladies.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: The new you'd be sitting there eating.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: No no, no, you're the new room guru, new guru.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Somebody has to put that mixtape out, the new.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Not me anyway. Look, the new album is out, man,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: it's dope.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Uh. You got a lot of music. Witheo shot coming
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: all the way. We did like three for this album.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: We'll see if we do another one, but I'm onto
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the next project. Trying to put someone out again, Yeah,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: because I mean we had a gap between this one.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: More gaps, man, I'm trying to get your gap. Yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: what has been the coolest advice you've gotten?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Being around like cash and and sal and and enabling
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: those guys because obviously you know they're the biggest there is.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So I can only imagine just.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of slogans, you know, yeah, like uh, you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: don't pocket watch, uh, don't dip your pen and company inc.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of ship you know what I'm saying. That's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: always a good the ones a lot of a lot
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of a lot of ones in one liners that you'll
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: never forget, never dip your.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Pen in company inc. I like that, you know what
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Open for.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Interpretation, Open for interpretation.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: If you're a club owner, don't fuck the bottle.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Girls exactly exactly gets it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I do own a night club and we don't fuck
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the bottle girls.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Good you can't. It's it's tough.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, Noah, I appreciate you, brother man. The new
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: album is out, everybody go support it, and uh, anything
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: else you got coming on the way right now? No,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: no soon, though, Yeah, I feel like you should fucking
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you're funny dude man, Like now that you're like doing shit,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: like I feel like people are kind of seeing like
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you're like a fucking a fucking dude, you know, like
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a dude's dude.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. I don't know. Whatever the idea they
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: had to me before, I don't know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Next time, we're bringing some white claws because we are
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: white claw drinkers, and uh, we're gonna microdose to start
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the pod facts, Yes vibes for sure, my dog nap there.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It is bouleg Cap Podcast boo