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Property taxes and your calls · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard earlier Mark, I was
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  Speaker 1: talking about going out to Vegas. He's taken off for
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  Speaker 1: that trip tomorrow morning, so I will be in before him,
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  Speaker 1: beginning at three o'clock. I got a guest and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are going to go. What make that
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  Speaker 1: Scooby doo noise? I got a guest in the four
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  Speaker 1: o'clock hour tomorrow for former Attorney General State of.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio, Mark Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Now, don't go off crazy, because we're on the same
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  Speaker 1: side on something, and I think you will enjoy that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Just after the four o'clock news tomorrow during the Blazer
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  Speaker 1: Show here on six to ten double EUTVN, I got
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  Speaker 1: one more bowling call. I want to get to then,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get into this property text discussion that
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  Speaker 1: I had on Facebook today. Steve, you were on six
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  Speaker 1: ten DOUBLETVN Hot Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to love going bowling when I was
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  Speaker 3: a kid. It was real fun, it was real cheap.
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  Speaker 3: I could go and stay all day for pretty much
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  Speaker 3: a dollar fifty something like that. And my sister I
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  Speaker 3: used to go with her. She's my older sister and
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  Speaker 3: she you know, always you know, had her girlfriends and stuff. There.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it. I mean it was fun. I'd share
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  Speaker 3: my French fries with them or you know, go get
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  Speaker 3: them a pop and you know, make the whole day
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  Speaker 3: of it. Also, do you remember three Seed down here on?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking about three That was the weirdest
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  Speaker 1: bowling alley I was ever in because it was on
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  Speaker 1: three different levels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. My dad won a lot of trophies and
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  Speaker 3: stuff there in leagues and stuff. I was never that good.
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  Speaker 3: I barely bought one hundred and twenty yeah, yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I just loved going.
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  Speaker 1: If you walked in that building, you'd walk in and
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  Speaker 1: there were like, I think four lanes in front of you,
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  Speaker 1: and then you would go up a couple of steps,
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  Speaker 1: two or three steps, and then there were another four lanes,
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  Speaker 1: or you could have gone down another two or three steps,
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  Speaker 1: and there were so it was like twelve lanes total,
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  Speaker 1: but it was it was on an incline. The lanes
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  Speaker 1: were street they were running east to west, but the
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  Speaker 1: bowling alley itself, running north to south, was on an incline.
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  Speaker 2: It was so strange.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad actually won about ten or twelve trophies
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  Speaker 3: bowling there.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: He was pretty good. I mean you know, he he
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  Speaker 3: always did want me to join the league, and I
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  Speaker 3: just I wasn't that dedicated to it. I just liked
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  Speaker 3: going with family and friends and stuff. But I really
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed it. It was cheap. I mean, the food wasn't
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  Speaker 3: bad either back then, and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, well, you know, there's something about sitting down
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  Speaker 1: and having a grilled cheese sandwich and a in a
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  Speaker 1: bowl of tomato soup and a bowling alley diner that
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  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know, just seems so right.
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  Speaker 3: I agreed, good times, Steve.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, buddy. Take care of yourself and enjoy
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  Speaker 1: this beautiful weather. It's a it's I don't know, Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it's Americana. Not to be confused with American,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't I think bowling was probably invented somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Seems to me, I recall it being the ancient Egyptians
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  Speaker 1: had some form of bowling, if I'm not mistaken. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it is American. I'm saying that the
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  Speaker 1: concept of going bowling, going to a bowling alley, gathering
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  Speaker 1: the friends and family together, and going out with your
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  Speaker 1: league player or whatever is Americana. It's part of our tradition,
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  Speaker 1: our history, one of those things that made us who
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  Speaker 1: and what we were. And I know I sound idealistic
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  Speaker 1: and silly and saying it, but when I saw this
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  Speaker 1: PGA or PBA thing coming back to Columbus, it just
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  Speaker 1: it put a smile in my heart.
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  Speaker 2: I remember simpler times.
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  Speaker 4: It might definitely be an American thing, but it originated
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  Speaker 4: in thirty two to fifty two hundred BC in ancient Europe.
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  Speaker 4: Were sorry, Egypt.
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  Speaker 1: The Egypt That's what I said. I thought, I remember
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  Speaker 1: the egyptsims having some form of bowling stone, pins and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not ours. But then again, neither spaghetti.
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  Speaker 1: Most people say spaghetti is Italian. You know that's not
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  Speaker 1: that comes from China. Did you know that? I did
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  Speaker 1: not know, as does catch.
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  Speaker 4: I know, fireworks and communism in today's.
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  Speaker 2: World, those come from obets. Oh okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: Got into a discussion today about the property taxes, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, Governor Dowine making his final State of the
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  Speaker 1: State speech today, he didn't mention anything about property taxes
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  Speaker 1: being eliminated in the state of Ohio. I got into
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a discussion with somebody Todave Kelly was
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  Speaker 1: her name on Facebook, and she brought this into a
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  Speaker 1: discussion where it really.
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  Speaker 2: She morphed it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I had posted something about the fact that there
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  Speaker 1: was a new grant money coming available for home buyers.
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  Speaker 1: As a real estate agent. This made me happy becoming
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  Speaker 1: available in April. The funds are limited, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: once they're gone, they're gone. But for people who are
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  Speaker 1: looking for some help with down payment assistance or closing costs,
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  Speaker 1: this could be a big help. And you know the
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  Speaker 1: first argument, I think somebody said, well, it's like you
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  Speaker 1: got to be poured. No, not really. It's eighty percent
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  Speaker 1: of the area median income, and in Franklin County that
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  Speaker 1: means if it's a couple, that's I think one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eight thousand dollars, So you're probably good. Our average
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  Speaker 1: income in Franklin County is not one hundred and eight
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. The lender can can increase the grand amount.
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  Speaker 1: The maximum amount is twenty thousand. It can be used
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  Speaker 1: for down payment or closing calls. Looks like a great program. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then somebody came back at me, and that was to
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  Speaker 1: Kelly and Start and brought property taxes into it, well,
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  Speaker 1: how can anybody afford to buy a house? Property taxes
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  Speaker 1: keep going up. We need to eliminate property taxes. And
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  Speaker 1: property taxes are bad.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with her on that property taxes are bad,
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  Speaker 1: are confiscatory. I see no logic, no reasoning in paying
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  Speaker 1: the government a fee to continue to own what you own.
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  Speaker 1: You bought it, you paid for it. You shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: to pay taxes on it the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 1: We don't disagree on that, but here's where we disagree.
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  Speaker 1: She also threw and make sure you sign the petition
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  Speaker 1: to eliminate property taxes. So I took a look at it,
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  Speaker 1: and what it says is the elimination of property taxes
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. This would just be Ohio taxes,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, not all property taxes, just the Ohio taxes.
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  Speaker 1: And there were some idealistic statements that came afterward to
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  Speaker 1: insist that the legislature do this and that the state
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  Speaker 1: find the way to fund this, But there was no
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  Speaker 1: discernible plan as to what you were going to do.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going to see for any dollars that disappear,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have to come from somewhere. Else, and
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  Speaker 1: until you established where they're going to come from and
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  Speaker 1: how they are going to come from there, you can't
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the first element, the exist impas I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking to Zach about this.
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  Speaker 2: Off the air.
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  Speaker 1: If you are on an airplane and you and the
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  Speaker 1: airplane takes off, you've left the ground. You're in the air,
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  Speaker 1: got cruising out to tude thirty five thousand feet five
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  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy miles an hour.
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  Speaker 2: You're up there.
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  Speaker 1: You've established this pattern, this is how you're flying. And
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  Speaker 1: then somebody goes, uh, oh, the pilot is drunk off
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  Speaker 1: his butt. Man, what do you want to do? You
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  Speaker 1: want to get the pilot out of the cockpit. That's right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: then what do you do? Well, the co pilot will
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  Speaker 1: take over exactly, the co pilot will take over in
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  Speaker 1: this instance what we're talking about, let's just eliminate the
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  Speaker 1: property text. There's no copilot. If you want to stop funding,
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  Speaker 1: you have to replace it. The dollars will have to
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  Speaker 1: come somewhere until there is a succinct plan to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get on board with just signing a petition
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  Speaker 1: going yep, just deliminate am there are those things necessary
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  Speaker 1: for the public works for the infrastructure dependent upon those
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  Speaker 1: taxes that are coming.
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  Speaker 2: In right now.
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  Speaker 1: We have to have the method of funding them without
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  Speaker 1: those property taxes. And until we do, I just I
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  Speaker 1: can't get on board with the whole you know, sign
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  Speaker 1: here and get rid of taxes movement. It just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work for me. I get the concept. I don't disagree
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  Speaker 1: with the idea, but we need a plan. That's what
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to. A two one nine eight eight
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  Speaker 1: six number eight two one WTV. And I got another
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  Speaker 1: steed that's been holding on with some ideas on property
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  Speaker 1: tax Steve, you're on six ten double UTV.
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  Speaker 2: And high Oh huck carrier find sir, how are you?
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  Speaker 5: I am doing very very well. Thank you. So hey, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: I understand your your issue with eliminate property taxes. The
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  Speaker 5: money has to come from somewhere. Just may I suggest
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  Speaker 5: that perhaps maybe raising the state sales taxes possibly, that's
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  Speaker 5: one idea.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about that. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good with any ideas right now. See whether it's
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  Speaker 1: a state sales tax or uh, you know, some sort
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  Speaker 1: of consumption tax or luxury tax, whatever, as long as
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  Speaker 1: there is a way to continue the funding without that
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  Speaker 1: property tax, and.
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  Speaker 5: I totally wholeheardly agree with that. Again, you and I
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  Speaker 5: think a lot alike. I just you know, I'm a
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  Speaker 5: recent homeowner. I purchased my first home back in November,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, I'm blessed to have a home. But
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  Speaker 5: it just, you know, to continue to live in my home,
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  Speaker 5: I have to pay a property tax every year. Is
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  Speaker 5: that necessarily right? I just I don't think so. I
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  Speaker 5: wish we had a plan to get the money from
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  Speaker 5: somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, But unfortunately, like I said, that plane is
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  Speaker 1: in the air at thirty five thousand feet.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Property taxes are funding your schools, They're funding your aging programs,
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  Speaker 1: they're funding your uh what is Just go to your
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  Speaker 1: county website and look at everything your property taxes are
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  Speaker 1: going for. Yeah, we got we got to find a
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  Speaker 1: way to keep all those things running or or the
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  Speaker 1: plan doesn't work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, I got you, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for back to the Yeah all right, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: you too, have a good evening. Eight to nine eight
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  Speaker 1: six eight two one WTV and Diane, you're on six
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  Speaker 1: to ten WTVN.
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  Speaker 6: I judge, I just wanted to chime in. I agree
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  Speaker 6: with you on the property taxes. But I don't agree
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  Speaker 6: that we should have to we should have to come
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  Speaker 6: up with a plan. I think that's up to our government.
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  Speaker 6: The judges ruled thirty years ago that property taxes are
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  Speaker 6: illegal where they're funding the school.
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  Speaker 1: I agree completely, Diane. Diane, I agree completely what you
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  Speaker 1: just said. But let's here, let's think about what you
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  Speaker 1: just said. We shouldn't do it, but they the legislature
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  Speaker 1: was told to do it thirty years ago and they didn't,
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  Speaker 1: so we had better do it because it's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get done otherwise.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I said, but I think if we, if
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  Speaker 6: we force them by by out balling property Texas, that
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  Speaker 6: they're forced topic the problems stuff they're going to I mean,
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  Speaker 6: if they're gonna have to devance the money somewhere, and
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  Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of fraud and abuse in
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  Speaker 6: every system that would force them to maybe eliminate some
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  Speaker 6: of that to.
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  Speaker 3: Still be the bill.
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  Speaker 6: It's not as much money stuffing is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fraud, the fraud, the abuse, all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. Absolutely, Minnesota is not the only place there's
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  Speaker 1: a problem. But we tend to always, you know, look
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  Speaker 1: at other situations as if it could never happen here.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's plenty plenty to be found here
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  Speaker 1: for and that should be our first stop when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to funding things, right right.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I just I just say my opinion that
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  Speaker 6: we have not done it on their own.
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  Speaker 5: We have for something to go with the.
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  Speaker 2: I understand you, Diane.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you're breaking up out there on the road,
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  Speaker 1: but I do appreciate the call.
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  Speaker 2: Greg. You are on six to n W t V.
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  Speaker 7: N Yeah, chuck.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: Other in a small town south of Columbus, Uh, the
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  Speaker 7: property tax thing has come up here. Our council has
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  Speaker 7: already uh started looking at it different ways. I'm sure
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  Speaker 7: that a lot of other communities are doing the same thing, saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: if the property tax goes away, we have how we're
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  Speaker 7: going to fund our police, fire departments and other kind
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  Speaker 7: of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: They're looking at maybe raising income taxes. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: there's something like that. So I think until we kill
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  Speaker 7: that the property tax, they won't come up with a plan.
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  Speaker 7: So it's sort of like, kill the property tax, you
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  Speaker 7: know it, they'll come with a plan.
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  Speaker 1: So you're kind of along the lines of Diane, create
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  Speaker 1: the create the absolute necessity and give them no choice
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  Speaker 1: but to do.
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  Speaker 7: Something exactly until you do, they won't.
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  Speaker 1: It's again the same thing, Greg, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: is a bad concept. I just honestly, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: i'd bet five dollars on draft kings that they'd come
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  Speaker 1: through and actually do something. They'd just kick it down
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  Speaker 1: the road like everything else.
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  Speaker 7: Well, if you take the money away, they have to.
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  Speaker 7: If you don't take it late, then they're going to
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  Speaker 7: take it down the road. You're right, yea, so, and
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  Speaker 7: til you say you don't have property tax, figure out
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  Speaker 7: something else, they won't do it. There are some who
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  Speaker 7: got property taxes, they'll they'll put it off and put
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  Speaker 7: it off. They won't. You're just like healthcare. You've been
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  Speaker 7: talking about Obamacare for sixteen years and time done anything
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  Speaker 7: with it.
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  Speaker 1: There are some things that I think, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: a county level, that we fund in property taxes that
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  Speaker 1: frankly I think could be cut loose, things like you
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  Speaker 1: know what, the CODA system, the Central Ohio Transit Authority.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, dude, I'm sick of seeing empty buses rolling
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  Speaker 1: down the road all the time. And and uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know CODA is going to be looking for a lovey
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  Speaker 1: for this. No no, no, no no. And they'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you they're a private entity so you don't have any
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  Speaker 1: control over what they decide to do. But then they
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  Speaker 1: come to the taxpayers for funding. No, I'm not good
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  Speaker 1: with that. We have spent a lot of money in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of places that honestly probably could be saved.
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  Speaker 2: By just not having them.
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  Speaker 1: Would that create some unemployment, yes, Would it create perhaps
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  Speaker 1: some challenges for mobility for some people, well, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: that could be answered with a smaller scale transit system
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  Speaker 1: for people who need it, because we obviously don't need
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  Speaker 1: all these empty buses rolling and burning fuel all the time.